📌gimshim-help

[zinc shoal]

I literally have 2 dps bench (childe and eula) because i dont have enough supports

[lyric cargo]

it's yet another case where a situational char can be okay with Furina
but are we really taking our Furina from the other side to enable that

for Childe, you mean you're using Ben Xl Kaz on the other side?

[zinc shoal]

I don't have kazuha
And Ben Xl is on Kinich's team

[jolly junco]

those two are pretty core with childe

so if they're on another team he gets benched yeah

unless you use him as a neuvillette support

[opal surge]

Someone here was cooking freeze childe the other day

[zinc shoal]

childe has been benched since his release lol i didnt expect him to come home at 10 pity

[jolly junco]

the fabled 20-30k team dps freeze childe 🗣️ 🔥

[opal surge]

[zinc shoal]

is layla okk for ayaya team

[jolly junco]

ok is how I would put it yes

well I don't like playing ayaka at all but, shenhe offers a lot of buffs at least for a second cryo

[opal surge]

Shenhe sneak

[urban bolt]

Shenhe who?

[elder bluff]

Tao. Ye

[lyric cargo]

next chronicled wish, surely they'll do another one and change the rules to allow it

(because right now, she's only had 2 runs so by their rules she can't be on chronicled)

[urban bolt]

Rip then

[lunar hedge]

What food give xilonen the most defense?

[keen willow]

Why do you need more def on xilonen

[calm burrow]

Best two abyss teams I can make? Wanderer, Layla, Bennett and Faru is my best/favourite team btw and I hate playing Tartag. Anyone over 90 is built

[opal surge]

Do you have and can you build chevreuse

Play your wanderer team top half and try to brute force second half with nahida yelan xq Kuki ig

If U can't brute force second half with the geo shields it might be ideal to build chev if U have her and play arle overload, though that would mean not playing wanderer since ud steal bennet

[lunar hedge]

For her C4 passive

[keen willow]

Theres many that increase def by 308 just filter by def

Idk anything over that

[lunar hedge]

ty

[lyric cargo]

how do people get used to Layla's shield duration?

gotta do really short rotations I guess

or play an on-fielder that can switch out, and have a good idea for when the shield is about to expire

[rugged sparrow]

that or run 24s rotation with double Layla EQ

what team are you running anyway

[lyric cargo]

Neuv Furina Layla Kazuha
for Tri-Color Trio achievement

shield expires = dead Neuvilette 😅

because the three local legends hurt a lot

[near prism]

This team should allow for full shield uptime or almost full shield

Runs a 26s rot, Layla can do 2EQ

[lyric cargo]

that's assuming you get the timing right to on-fielder her every 12s?

[near prism]

Not really, it's just a 26s rot, you just EQ between neuv field time

So like
Neuv E furina E kaz Q Layla QE furina Q kaz E neuv CA E CA Q kaz E Layla EQ. Neuv 2CA

[lyric cargo]

hmm
I'll keep trying

I'm used to Neuv having somewhat flexible rotations

[near prism]

This team still very much has flexible rots, but even the most flexible team has a 1 best rotation

Or at least the 1 best idea for a rotation

[lyric cargo]

I think I used up the statue's available pool of healing

[jolly junco]

[lyric cargo]

well, this is awkward
Xiangling over Furina actually works, but now I gotta switch Furina in just to heal up

All Statues of The Seven share a pool of HP called Restorative Power. Restorative Power is used to heal characters and regenerates itself at a rate of 1% of the maximum Restorative Power per 15 seconds in real-time, even while the game is paused (always fully restored in 25 minutes). The maximum Restorative Power is 5,000 × the number of Statues of The Seven that the player has unlocked. There are currently 44 Statues of The Seven, so the maximum possible Restorative Power is 220,000 HP.

time to try this again later

[quaint fern]

wtf did I just run into in coop

[dusty cape]

[quaint fern]

this is such a cursed build

is sac a c6 thing???? ;-;

[dusty cape]

[quaint fern]

LITERALLY

I WAS LIKE, IS THERE SMTH i DON'T KNOW ABOUT C6 RINA

[opal surge]

It is a thing

It's not necessarily optimal but it's not unheard of

Also you need it to actually plunge 8 times on furina

[quaint fern]

I was actually on xianyun but no one else was plunging

[forest venture]

free refresh on her enhanced, kokomi-like teamwide healing AND hydro-infused NAs? hell yea 😎

[lunar dagger]

...?

what the fuck is this interesting ass build

whos letting you cook

[true depot]

is the flute of ezpital worth crafting for chiori? (currently on harbinger of dawn)

[rugged sparrow]

Harbinger better for her

[quaint fern]

Not mine

You won't catch me dead with a 1:1.3 ratio

[limber pollen]

May I ask some of you who have a better understanding of the game about your personal opinions on what character my account might profit the most from ?
ATM I got almost 60 pulls
I don’t have nahida neither zhong li
I like both of them
Should I save more until I try to pull
I’m on 0 pity and on 50/50
This is what I got so far

As far as character investment

The best team I got so far is ayaya freeze

[barren linden]

If you want an example...
I did around 130 pulls to get xilonen due to failing a 50/50.
And I did 50 more to get the weapon (and because I won the 50/50, was damn happy about that).

So... 60 pulls seems a tad too little in my opinion

[limber pollen]

Nahida banner seems promising ngl … I have c2 Xingqiu and c0 Kuki

[limber pollen]

At the end of the banner I should have at least 120 to 140

• I don’t wish for weapons , I’ve had enough since I pulled for Ayaka’s

Yet I cannot 36 stars abyss

[haughty lotus]

Nahida would be good, could do Nahida xingqiu kuki/raiden fischl/flex and not use any characters needed for wrio/ayaka teams. Zhongli wouldn’t do much for you. Xingqiu’s constellations are also strong and kuki c2 is good if you don’t have it.

[split socket]

why is def favored over atk for chiori when she scales off of both

Aka which one is better

[haughty lotus]

Def. Her base def is higher than base ATK and her def scalings are higher

[dusty cape]

she has higher scalings on def and keep farming

[split socket]

Ok tyyy

[wind bolt]

Sus

[cloud plover]

is ash-graven drinking horn better than ring of yaxche for mualani?

also is candace a good support for mualani?

[rustic meadow]

chat

I havent played much yet. I unlocked TCG yesterday...
I'm curious if TCG necessary for story to progress? I'm not really a fan of card/turn-based games. :(

[tender swan]

sup guys! is Xilonen with sig weap better than 1k em kazu iron sting (Raiden Team)

[wind bolt]

I believe so

[cloud plover]

okay thank you!

[wind bolt]

Also think ring was better than drinking horn

[cloud plover]

okay awesome i already happened to have ring equipped on mualani already so ill just keep it like that

[craggy vapor]

Is Chiori worth getting? I'm really close to pity and kinda want to get her but I want to know if she is fun/good to use

[cloud plover]

i just got and she is so fun

ppl say that she needs c1

but someone in this server told me to get her and personally i think that she doesn't have to have c1 to be fun

to play

in conclusion i can say that i am satisfied with my decision

of getting her

[unkempt willow]

need help picking

[wind bolt]

Tbh neither coz both lack er, but do you care about her healing? If so left

[unkempt willow]

thanks

[strange scarab]

[strange scarab]

rate my xylophone

[keen willow]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-jeffy-xylophone-toy-throw-gif-26365838

[glass pasture]

Anyone here got c4 xilonen? Debating on going for it before banner goes away. Im at c3

[lyric cargo]

no, it's not necessary. gives a good amount of primogems by upgrading your player level up 10
but you probably have other content to grind

[opal surge]

It's not great, I wouldn't go for it

[lyric cargo]

people tend to pull too many on-fielders

can only use one per team

if you've decided on a team 1, you can choose based on what supports are left available

[sick quarry]

is this build decent enough for me to start focusing on building the rest of my team or?

[lyric cargo]

that's a great goblet
crit rate is slightly overcapped

a crit dmg circlet would help

how much building does the rest of the team require?

does Bennett have enough ER to burst, without extending the rotation to use his skill until he can?

[sick quarry]

well when i say build the rest of the team

i really mean xl because i havent obtained benny and furnia yet lmao

[lyric cargo]

ah

For Xiangling on that team, I'd also focus on energy first of all

[sick quarry]

i plan to grab their acension stuff ahead of time tho

[lyric cargo]

her main job is to keep burning aura going

and I suspect she's a temporary fill until Mavuika comes out

archons usually synergize with the chars from the region

so I'd put Xiangling on 2pc emblem 2pc scroll with ER substats, then when she can burst reliably I'd focus on Kinich again

problem is, without Bennett her ER req will be through the roof

more than she'd need in the final version of the team

[sick quarry]

this is current (i only really focused kinch since i got him thats why her stats and artifacts are all over)

[opal surge]

Xiangling needs to go on deepwood for kinich

Otherwise it's a bit joever

(if mavuika becomes a scroll holder then Furina will go deepwood in this team )

[sick quarry]

ok ill start going for deepwood then

[opal surge]

You probably want to farm for furina and box deepwood

And once U have a deepwood set box noblesse for Bennet

[sick quarry]

are artifact boxes decent?

[opal surge]

Strongbox I mean

[sick quarry]

yeah ik i am looking at a wiki and remebered they existed lmao

i forgot about artifact strongboxes

[sick quarry]

wym farm for furina like artifacts or mats?

[sick quarry]

That makes sense ill do that

[sick quarry]

yikes bennets a must

[lyric cargo]

surely you're meant to pull Emilie to replace Furina, so that doesn't feel as cringe
(and so Furina becomes available on the other side)

[sick quarry]

who pulls for emilie?

[opal surge]

True

[lyric cargo]

afaik, it's either her or Furina for burning teams

[opal surge]

(I think furinas best set in kinich XL Bennet might be totm anyway and not GT, but people aren't ready for that conversation )

[sick quarry]

wha thats so usefull

[lyric cargo]

if you have to put deepwood on that slot, I guess you'd rather it be Emilie than Furina
especially fun for people who put lots of resin into Unfinished Reverie 😅

[sick quarry]

is this any good?

[lyric cargo]

basically, by artifact farming you get a LOT of bad artifacts
there are three things you can do with them:

• strongbox
• exp fodder to level other pieces
• artifact transmuter (you can only do this last one once a month)

[lyric cargo]

could be, if it doesn't roll into flat atk

[sick quarry]

what a jinx

lets find out

[lyric cargo]

I don't really believe in my messages influencing your game 🤣
but good luck

[opal surge]

You just focus on having enough er

[lyric cargo]

I forgot it's for Xiangling

[opal surge]

It's fine if they're not the best offensive pieces you can work on that overtime

[sick quarry]

how much is enough in the end?

[sick quarry]

by scroll dym the new set that came out with obsidan codex?

[opal surge]

Erc is unfortunately unusable on mobile, I have it at 257 er on my sheet for kinich Emilie Bennet xiangling, furina with fav should lower it to like

220 maybe

[sick quarry]

alr

[lyric cargo]

• strongbox: it's best to use +0 pieces since any artifact exp you put into them would be lost
• exp fodder: I try to avoid this (I do a daily artifact route instead, netting me enough 1-star and 2-star pieces to level everything I need)

if you use 5-stars as exp fodder, your high level ones should go to that.
your +4s would go to artifact transmuter, and your +0s to strongbox

I don't use 5-stars as exp fodder, so my high level ones go to artifact transmuter and my +4s might go to strongbox

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's the set I meant
but you really want a deepwood holder on the team like Sensi pointed out, so nevermind that

[sick quarry]

oh ok

[lyric cargo]

resistance shred is one of the best supportive effects in the game
arguably the best

[sick quarry]

so is it fine to throw all my scroll into the void and sacrifice them to the boxes?

[lyric cargo]

oh no, don't do that

4pc scroll is a great set
even the +12 dmg% effect can be competitive with sets like Noblesse

I'd assume every team that can fit a Natlan char with scroll for the full +40 dmg% effect, will

[sick quarry]

huh ok

[lyric cargo]

so you do want to look at your scroll pieces, and see if any of them are good for supports or off-field damage dealers

[sick quarry]

whats normally good for support?

[lyric cargo]

the best support sets we have are probably:

• Viridescent Venerer ("Decreases opponent's Elemental RES to the element infused in the Swirl by 40% for 10s.")
• Deepwood Memories ("the targets' Dendro RES will be decreased by 30% for 8s. This effect can be triggered even if the equipping character is not on the field.")
• Scroll of the Hero of Cinder City (free energy for the holder and +40 dmg% for the team)

[lyric cargo]

after that, there are sets like

• Tenacity of the Millilith (shield strength buff and teamwide 20 atk%)
• Noblesse Oblige (teamwide 20 atk%)

[lyric cargo]

oh, and there's Archaic Petra which on paper gives a pretty good buff but can be clunky to use (you not only need to trigger crystallize, but pick up the shard)

and there's a 4-star set that can be good (Instructor, a teamwide 120 EM buff)

the ones that feel best to me are those that have a long duration or can trigger from off-field

[sick quarry]

speaking of em is it needed for xiangling?

[lyric cargo]

it depends on the team
not in a burning team

[sick quarry]

burgeon?

[lyric cargo]

if she does trigger burgeon, she'd want EM yeah

but I suspect it would be Furina triggering vaporize instead

[sick quarry]

ah really

[lyric cargo]

there won't be that many burgeons, as Xiangling's pyro application is strong

so pyro aura will be dominant

[sick quarry]

thats fair so should i just throw EM deepwood peices back into the boxes?

[lyric cargo]

if Xiangling is used with strong pyro application (Xingqiu or Yelan), she'll trigger vaporize and want to build some EM

[lyric cargo]

Kinich: Codex
Xiangling: Deepwood
Furina: Golden Troupe
Bennett: (many options, but they only benefit a little. Noblesse or Scroll of the Hero.)

If like Sensi suggested, Mavuika replaces Xiangling and holds scroll for the +40 dmg% effect
then someone with off-field damage will need to hold deepwood

so either Furina, or you use her on the other side for abyss and put another unit in that slot, holding deepwood

[lyric cargo]

oh, you were asking about EM specifically
no, EM on the deepwood set is valuable because of Nahida

you might not be going for her, but if you have a great EM sands I'd keep it to possibly use later

[sick quarry]

ok

[lyric cargo]

Alhaitham and Tighnari also like EM sands (it's similar to atk% sands for them)

[sick quarry]

also i dont think im gonna go for Mavuika since ideally i want all my funds going into furina

only reason thats difficult is because of bennet

[forest venture]

mauvika and furina in the same patch? 😨

[lyric cargo]

Mavuika will likely rerun before 6.0
but she'll likely be very good for Kinich

[sick quarry]

probs not

[lyric cargo]

I haven't seen anything to suggest that, but it could happen

[sick quarry]

im just saving for furina is all

[lyric cargo]

I think they don't usually put multiple archons on the same patch, though

you can check what they did in the past, here: https://paimon.moe/banners

[sick quarry]

my dumbass doesnt know how to read it lmao

[forest venture]

manifesting chronicled archon wish

[lyric cargo]

the patch number is at the top

each field tells you either that the char had a banner there (when there's a picture)

or when there's a number, it counts how many banners since the char had a banner

[sick quarry]

realistically would 40 more wishes get me enough starglitter for bennet im at 26 rn

because my 50 pound one still has double

[sick quarry]

ahh ok

[lyric cargo]

10 wishes gives you a 4-star, guaranteed

[forest venture]

depends on your c6es

[lyric cargo]

you won't have chars with complete constellations yet

[sick quarry]

bros acting like i own one lmao

[lyric cargo]

yo

oh
feel free to DM me

[forest venture]

i guess ill join too

[lyric cargo]

I didn't realize the banner was out

[sick quarry]

asia gets it early?

[forest venture]

it's out 5 mins ago, which is why i clutch in NA for chiori

[sick quarry]

you can switch severs?

[forest venture]

yes, but you can't sync your original game data with other servers

[sick quarry]

oh that makes sense

[lyric cargo]

since I logged into my asia account now:
I assume it's been more than 60 days. What do I do for the 10-pull?

oh, it's here

[forest venture]

yea you're over the 45 days reunion threshold

[sick quarry]

do they give you stuff for loggin in after ages lmao

[sick quarry]

so is it still or to go into EM as im finding a buncha EM stuff that looks somewhat usefull

like this only thing is nor er

[lyric cargo]

that's very good, though maybe for another team

it'd be a great Nahida or Tighnari or Alhaitham piece

definitely lock

[sick quarry]

ok

[strange scarab]

Pull thousand dreams

[lyric cargo]

[elder bluff]

sac frags is already 990 of it

[lyric cargo]

my asia alt already has Nahida
so I guess it's time to save there

[strange scarab]

save for chacha

kazuha powercreep

[lyric cargo]

sounds good

[elfin tusk]

Do I go for hu tao C1 or weapon?

[sick quarry]

is pulling for nahida worth or should i carry on saving for furina? (i heard nahida is useless in kinich comp)

[lyric cargo]

yeah, Natlan is kinda locked

they made it so many of the old chars don't work as well

[sick quarry]

ah that sucks

i just topped up and have 40 wished idm spending

i was thinking on trying for xingqiu in place of furina for now (deffo not just a way to try and get starglitter 🙏 )

[acoustic tulip]

how much er required for navia

[jolly junco]

usually about 120-140%

you can check the energy recharge calculator pinned here for a specific team

[shrewd anchor]

whats 2 good abyss team i can do with these guys

[keen willow]

Wtf why have you lost 50-50 4 times

[sick quarry]

one could be the pick event thing tho

thats where i got my diluc

[keen willow]

[lyric cargo]

I guess 2 from standard banner, 1 from selector, one from loss on char banner?

unless they used primogems on standard banner

[keen willow]

I would delete this account

[quiet portal]

account looks curse ngl

[sick quarry]

thats what i thought lmao "if i loose 4 50/50 im deleting"

luckly havent lost a 50/50 yet

[shrewd anchor]

bruh ur just making fun of me :( /j

[keen willow]

Probably national with kaeya
And some tighnari team

[sick quarry]

you have bennet i really need a bennet

[maiden kayak]

should i still summon from beginners wish when im already at ar 47?

[toxic vessel]

what is best team i can make for nahida assuming i have nahida yelan and zhongli too just assume i have them i am lowkey schizo i wanna put my raiden to some work so yeah keep that in mind too

[strange scarab]

yes its a good deal a discounted pulls and you can only get 1.0 4 stars which most of them are great

most being xingque xiangling bennett fischl sucrose

[jolly junco]

yelan, xingqiu, raiden

this is hyperbloom raiden though, triple EM build where you only use her skill then swap character

[toxic vessel]

aight guys i messed up where can i use this weapon? like what chars i can use it instead of nahida

[cursive locust]

guys should I pull for nahida? I was planning to use mulani,xilonen,xiangling and nahida but my friend said save for mavuika

[strange scarab]

only if shes alive and playable that is

[zinc needle]

how do I build nahida if hyperbloom😭

[keen willow]

Yae

[toxic vessel]

yeah i am deleting genshin bro i cant do this shi no more

[keen willow]

Its a shit weapon so

[jolly junco]

it's not, it's just not really worth pulling for either

[toxic vessel]

i am crying literally, the fate point isnt gonna carry i got that weapon for 5 pulls but i am sad now

[strange scarab]

Brother 5 pulls is lucky

[zinc needle]

what build for nahida hyperbloom pls

[jolly junco]

4pc deepwood is the most important part. em/dendro/crit or any combination of other em mainstats

[strange scarab]

what are you even crying abt

[keen willow]

Just pull nahida

For 5 pulls i would take another skyward blade

[zinc needle]

thank u!!!!! what about xq and yelan? and for kuki 4pc of the other set of deepwood domain right? with all em

[toxic vessel]

i see my bad maybe i should practice balkan rage followed by jamaican stare and polish peeing

[zinc needle]

I'd literally take any 5 star weap in 5 pulls😢

[jolly junco]

it's just normal builds on yelan and xingqiu, you can check the build guide pinned here. 4pc paradise lost is the best set on kuki but 4pc gilded dreams is second best

[cursive locust]

depends on who u wanna play I personally like nahida but hu taos great 2

[zinc needle]

got it, thanks. also can u recommend other teams for nahida?😭

[jolly junco]

you can replace kuki with thoma if you want to play burgeon, otherwise sustainless aggravate with yae, fischl, kazuha

https://tenor.com/view/tokkiehan-jeongtxt-creditcard-slamming-card-card-slam-gif-22083793

[toxic vessel]

what is the probability of me losing my sanity playing this game?

[haughty lotus]

Yes

[cursive locust]

yesn't

[strange scarab]

review my xylophone vro

[zinc needle]

may I ask why does she need crit? (sorry idk anything abt her kit)

[toxic vessel]

everything is okay but i hate hoyo for making cute/important events time limited like furina hutaoe event and events that are important for story or do some lore drops

[cursive locust]

shes a sub-dps

[strange scarab]

because she crits thats simple

otherwise she wouldnt have a passive that buffs her skill crit rate based on em

[jolly junco]

it's ideal for her personal damage

[zinc needle]

ohhh I thought that will help for hyperbloom dmg

[cursive locust]

guys im gonna use mulani xiangling xilo and nahida is that a good team?

[haughty lotus]

Why

[jolly junco]

replace nahida

[strange scarab]

She just got lv 90 vro

[zinc needle]

is this okay?

[cursive locust]

with who?

[jolly junco]

if its 4pc deepwood then yes

[strange scarab]

candies pre c6 probably

[jolly junco]

kazuha/sucrose/candace/yelan/zhongli

pre-c6 candace otherwise it messes with vape consistency

[cursive locust]

vv doesnt last long enough for mulani tho and she doenst need need a shiedler

and i dont have yelan and zhongli

[jolly junco]

it lasts long enough to get some damage buffed even if not the whole rotation

[cursive locust]

whats wrong with nahida?

her burn lasts along time

[jolly junco]

dendro consumes hydro

not able to crystallise hydro from the second rotation

[zinc needle]

which is better?

[jolly junco]

= no cinder city proc

= -40% damage bonus

[cursive locust]

most bosses dont survive the 1st rotation

[haughty lotus]

Mines better but sure

[jolly junco]

if your mualani is that good just play kazuha or sucrose then

they buff more than nahida

with shorter animations

[cursive locust]

hm ok

[jolly junco]

and actually zhongli isn't taken because he provides a shield

[cursive locust]

ill use her for a spread team then

[jolly junco]

geo resonance + archaic petra + additional resistance shred

[strange scarab]

this goblet so ass

[haughty lotus]

Healing circlet where smh

[zinc needle]

whats better double hydro or double dendro for hyperbloom?

[jolly junco]

they're pretty close it just depends on the units

[mental storm]

What happens to kuki at c6
Does her hp stop at 1 when she receives fatal dmg?

[forest venture]

it stops at one, just like hu tao c6

[lyric cargo]

after a loss, you get a guarantee. So this has to be an account that was lucky on standard banner rather than unlucky on character banner

[sick quarry]

ah ic

so c6 is what like 14 if really unlucky?

[sick quarry]

yeah i doubt the game would be that cruel on a limited

wasnt there a time where someone lost staff of homa multiple times

[lyric cargo]

you'll find advice on this either way

the 4-star char pool is better than average, with early day 4-stars like Xingqiu Bennett Xiangling Fischl
but it doesn't count pity towards character banner
so you're not making progress towards getting your first 5-star

[lyric cargo]

that could happen, yeah. especially back when it took 2 fate points to get a guarantee

but even now, fate points don't carry over

so I'd only wish on a weapon banner if I can get to soft pity a second time
soft pity is 62 for weapons

[sick quarry]

wow thats horrific lmao i couldnt be arsed pulling weapons at 2 fate points

ah ic

26 mins till it swaps over les go

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwW12uQLCiw

[sick quarry]

ive decided to use like 40 wishes to attemps star glitter

[lyric cargo]

in the meantime, here's a video explaining how wishes and pity works ^^

[sick quarry]

should i use em for nahidas banner?

i mean it doesnt matter in the end

[lyric cargo]

better account value than Hutao imo

[sick quarry]

but incase i get like godluck

oh no

nvm

i rememberd the pity is higher then i thought

[lyric cargo]

both banners have good 4-stars
Nahida is good, but they're not making chars that work with her anymore
so while you can still make the old teams, she won't work with newer chars that come out now

[sick quarry]

thats stupid

[lyric cargo]

maybe we'll get a good burgeon trigger

[sick quarry]

who decides to to that

[lyric cargo]

they wanna sell all the fancy new toys they make

[sick quarry]

whats the point in waiting for chars if theyre shit by time they come back yk

[lyric cargo]

for example, in Fontaine they made Neuvilette who uses charge attacks
so he doesn't work with Xingqiu and Yelan
(the old premium old off-field hydro units, who trigger on normal attacks)

instead, he uses Furina who came out shortly after

[sick quarry]

ah thats why people use em together

[sick quarry]

oh im well safe on an accidental 5 star

ill only be arround 50 since my last 5 star

[lyric cargo]

then, Neuvilette and Mualani are both hp scalers
how did they make it so Mualani can't use the weapons made for Neuvilette?
his signature buffs charge attack dmg, Mualani uses normal attacks

and there's a Fontaine battle pass weapon that looks good on Mualani, but she'll overcap on crit rate a lot

[sick quarry]

i guess only ppl who dont really care about their stats/comp get to live w/o ppl and weapons not fitting properly lmao

[rotund lotus]

i'm trying to build a team for nahida (pulling for her, got a lot of primos.) i have raiden, yelan, XL leveled. wondering whether to level C6 thoma or C0 bennett. wanting to do well in abyss

i'm thinking nahida, yelan, then two pyros? but again i know very little about dendro team comps

i've been running kazuha, raiden, navia, and yelan

[haughty lotus]

Nahida xingqiu yelan raiden/kuki(full EM)
Navia Bennett xiangling/furina/fischl xilonen/zhongli/chiori/kachina/geo flex

[lyric cargo]

the default team for Nahida would be Xq + Kuki + filler (hyperbloom)
you can also run Thoma over Nahida, for burgeon. (less common)

Thoma does need ER, where Kuki doesn't

[rotund lotus]

ah, i see! very helpful! thank you

[sick quarry]

wha my banner just says 0 mins lmao

[opal surge]

the banner disappears before the new one comes

[sick quarry]

ah ic

oh yeah they just dissapeared

ok thank god i got xingqiu first 10 pull

ok and i finally lost 50/50 thank god lmao

[sick quarry]

can xingqiu be used as an off field hydro i forget

[opal surge]

acc unbricked 😌

[sick quarry]

ggs

[sick quarry]

is it worth trying to c6 xingqiu

i have enough primos i think

168 wishes

[opal surge]

depends on what youd use him for ig

[sick quarry]

kinich team until furina

i doubt she will be out anytime soon

[opal surge]

no

[sick quarry]

and ill just buy more genisis when she is

[sick quarry]

no to c6 or furina?

[limber pollen]

30 pulls

50 50 won

[opal surge]

no to c6

i dont see why you would spend any primos to pull a marginal upgrade for a character youre replacing asap

[sick quarry]

thats fair

[limber pollen]

10 pulls later I secure mavuika aswell

[sick quarry]

i do need atleast 2 more starglitter so i have to pull again anyway but i was just wondering on that

[sick quarry]

what if i was to use him on like a nahida hyperbloom instead

[hard narwhal]

I used to run neuvi furina kaz baizhu but now that i got xilonen I kinda wanna put her in but idk what team to run

I assume i swap out kaz & baizhu and maybe add in some elemental rxns but idk what to go for

[quaint fern]

pull c1 neuvi and drop baizhu

[sick quarry]

nvm gambling took over my mind

i dont even want nahida i just want to gamble

[haughty lotus]

[hard narwhal]

💀

[hard narwhal]

i probably will get c1 neuvi when he rolls around again

[sick quarry]

your saying gambling isnt fun?

[hard narwhal]

even if I do do i run like neuvi furina kaz xil?

[quaint fern]

you don't have IR

[lyric cargo]

it makes him much better at applying hydro (and improves his damage)
but it depends on the 5-star you're wishing on as well

[haughty lotus]

Just kill before you get hit

[quaint fern]

true

c6 ganyu fr

[sick quarry]

it was nahida but i also realised i really just wanted to gamble

i dont really wanna level up xingqiu since i got enough starglitter to buy bennet

so im grabbing all his upgrade stuff

[quaint fern]

you'll want both xingqiu and bennett built

[meager scaffold]

c2 hu tao or 1 nahida

[opal surge]

c2 hutao doesnt do anything

[neon harness]

Did you get the cons mixed up or sum?

[meager scaffold]

no hu tao is c1

only dendro i have is kinich so idk ab nahida

[neon harness]

Don’t go for nahida c1 if you aren’t gonna c2

[dusty cape]

[meager scaffold]

ill save for arle i cant make up my mind

[haughty lotus]

Do you have nahida already or asking about her c1

[meager scaffold]

i dont have her

i dont want her either but if shes good like

[haughty lotus]

Get nahida if you want her

[lyric cargo]

the Nahida banner basically gives you a whole team
Nahida, Xingqiu, Kuki

she doesn't really interact with any Natlan chars, but her old teams still work and this is a very good banner in terms of 4-stars

[opal surge]

how cope is atk sands on nahida

[lyric cargo]

kinda 🤣

strongboxing deepwood?

she isn't the largest team dmg contributor to be fair, you can get away with it for a bit

[opal surge]

totm but yeah

[lyric cargo]

if you just want to test her
her dendro app enables many a few teams

you're doing aggravate?

[opal surge]

[azure raptor]

Quick question: should I go for c2 nahida(already have c1) or hu tao (my only on field pyro dps is yanfei c6)

[sick quarry]

these are two seperate lists right?

[lyric cargo]

one if for leveling up and ascending the char

the other is for leveling the talents

[sick quarry]

ah ic

[lyric cargo]

not sure where it's from. The page I usually use is this:
https://genshin-center.com/planner
not sure if better than yours

[sick quarry]

are any of these good for bennet?

[opal surge]

craft sapwood blade

[sick quarry]

oh shit yeah thatll be better

[lyric cargo]

do the aranara questline until you get to the tree of dreams (purple onion)
next to it is an unassuming npc that trades weapon recipes for quest items, one of which is sapwood blade

[sick quarry]

i only use this because it was first i clicked
https://game8.co/games/Genshin-Impact/archives/Bennett-Best-Builds

[haughty lotus]

If that’s game8 don’t use it for any of the builds, there’s a build guide in the pins of this channel

[sick quarry]

i only use it for the mats

[lyric cargo]

yeah, game8 and the like can be used for quest guides / etc
for everything else, I prefer other sources

especially not recommended for team building

[sick quarry]

yeah i noticed their teams were odd

[lyric cargo]

Bennett's burst scales with his weapon's baseAtk
after that, he mostly wants energy recharge to make sure he can burst

sapwood is like prototype rancour, but with an ER substat (the passives on both weapons don't matter)

[sick quarry]

this is so good lmao

[sick quarry]

ah ic

is there any good mora farms or anything?

[lyric cargo]

there are elite farming routes, but I'd rather do artifact investigation

[sick quarry]

you sent an artifact route a bit ago right?

this 1?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that was the one

I follow a video and mark the spot locations on my map, like this

(ignore the red and yellow lines, I just used them to show the order I do them in)

[sick quarry]

ah ok

should i set up markers?

[lyric cargo]

I find it easier to find my way when I see the markers on the minimap

for some places, it's pretty easy

but when there's vertical movement it's awkward. I use different markers for different elevations

I also take notes like this, with place names and how many artifact spots there are

- Starglow Cavern [4]
- Entombed City [3]
- Sal Terrae [3]
- Liyue: Coast [9]

you can swap out any of the first 99 spots, it doesn't matter
only the final place they go to after the 99 can't be replaced. it needs to be one location with many spots

because they stop spawning after you pick up 100

[sick quarry]

rip to this dude

he lost his 50/50
oh and got sethos 5 times in a row lmao

[sacred bridge]

I need his weaponnn

[neon harness]

k

[lyric cargo]

hopefully it'll run alongside a good second weapon

[fading holly]

Can anyone explain what sigeweiners bol do but dumb it down

[lyric cargo]

bol as in bond of life, or bow (her signature weapon)?

bond of life is basically the opposite of a shield
it prevents healing (hp going up), rather than damage (hp going down)

so a bond of life is a bad thing. some chars have mechanics that make you want BoL though

if you don't have Sigewinne, I'd say don't get her (she doesn't do enough for a 5-star, it's mostly just healing afaik)

[fading holly]

yes, her bond

[trail nymph]

who should be the onfield in Nahida, Xingqiu, Yelan & Kuki team?

[neon harness]

nahida

[opal surge]

its mostly nahida

make sure you get your second yelan e per rotation in though

[trail nymph]

thought so, thank you 🙂

[old parrot]

Should I pull Xilonen or save for future characters? My pity at 75 Guranteed and I have 95 pulls in saving

[lyric cargo]

it's Nahida more than other units, but in my experience there's a lot of swapping around because of how the cooldowns line up
I also swap to trigger fav

[old parrot]

?

[lyric cargo]

without context, it's hard. Xilonen is a high value unit, especially if you follow the meta (highest damage option for Neuvilette)

do you have any teams or characters you want to build around?

[old parrot]

Neuvillette mostly

my other mains are Arlecchino and Navia

I lost 50/50 to Furina

[lyric cargo]

in that case, I recommend Neuv Furina Xil Kaz

[old parrot]

.

[forest venture]

im out

[lyric cargo]

she'll rerun at some point during 5.X, most likely

it'll mean reserving some wishes for her, if you want the best possible team for him

[lyric cargo]

like, how much field time is this really?

I'd say you can use an off-field Nahida build and do 1000 EM, if your substats are equally good to what you'd get with a crit build

but her personal damage contribution isn't the highest anyway

[lyric cargo]

I count 5 normal attacks. could do a switch cancelled charge attack as you switch out, I guess

[lyric cargo]

what would be the rotation for that, btw?

[quaint fern]

You shouldn't need 1k em in hyperbloom

[opal surge]

It should be somewhat easy to get 2 yelan E's per rotation, one of the upsides of hyperbloom is its flexible rotation, if you want I can check the optimal rotation though

[lyric cargo]

yeah, she doesn't need it. Kuki has that covered.
It's just that 1000 EM is optimal for her off-field damage, assuming equal substats

(her field time is still low enough I think that it makes sense, and this means you don't have to switch her build all the time)

mine is on EM / dmg% / crit, with kagura's verity (something I wouldn't pull for her now)

[lyric cargo]

only if it's not a bother, I assumed you had a rotation in mind.
you're right that it's flexible.

[quaint fern]

so maybe my Nahida build isn't that bad after all...

Wait that one might be very old

Anyways this is what I'm running rn

[lyric cargo]

mine could be better, but her damage contribution probably isn't worth strongboxing deepwood at this point

[opal surge]

its like nahida eq > xq q > kuki e > yelan eq > nahida uptime with e > xq e > nahida uptime with e > yelan e > kuki q > nahida

with a bunch of autos weaved in everyones uptime ofc

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I feel like Kuki's skill will expire during the first or second Nahida uptime with E

[lyric cargo]

or maybe I'm just slow

[opal surge]

I got nahida today, I cant say I'm the expert

[lyric cargo]

your rotation doesn't use kuki burst, and uses xq E later than what I did

[opal surge]

it does use kuki q (at the end, I assume after the e)

[lyric cargo]

oh, right

[opal surge]

kuki e lasts until her burst (ignore the damage)

xq doesnt need to be on sac ofc, I just didnt gear (and I was surprised that I had sac if you can tell )

a bit more cleaned up but yeah dont think it makes much of a diff anyway

[acoustic tulip]

what to improve for support bennet?

should i be using noblesse?

[lyric cargo]

high baseAtk weapon (sapwood blade, skyward blade, Aquila Favonia, Absolution, Mistsplitter Reforged)

[lyric cargo]

the set can change with the team. scroll, noblesse, Instructor are all options

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[acoustic tulip]

im using navia zhongli bennet xiangling

[violet cipher]

how different in damage is hp goblet Mualani and hydro goblet Mualani?

[jade tendon]

For Arle nuke team, would R5 CMS or R1 Homa be better?

[raven valve]

Who should i get ?

[jade tendon]

Xilonen

[raven valve]

I dont think i will get even after a rerun

I just hate natlan chars sadly😪

[storm urchin]

Nahida team?

[haughty lotus]

Replace sucrose with yelan

[storm urchin]

Shes on my rational team

[haughty lotus]

Fischl then

[neon harness]

Who pinged smh

[slate urchin]

me need help

[neon harness]

ask

[strange scarab]

sigma sigma on the wall whos the skibidiest of all

[haughty lotus]

No.

[keen seal]

is it worth farming a better em sands or goblet? going for thousand dreams but i exhausted my wishes for xilonen

[haughty lotus]

It’s good enough

Don’t waste your pulls on her signature, if you want an upgrade go for c2

[keen seal]

i dont have nearly enough for that

[ebon phoenix]

Guys which arrlechino build better?
The second one is black cliff and the first one is pjws

[haughty lotus]

Pjws

[haughty lotus]

Skip then

[ebon phoenix]

What if u get c2 in ten pulls

[ebon phoenix]

Is homa better or should i save?

[haughty lotus]

Save

[ebon phoenix]

Why

[haughty lotus]

Because it’s not better

[lyric cargo]

Neuvilette (best AoE in the game, all your dps are single target?)

Xilonen (part of his highest damage team. normally people don't care about looks / etc for off-fielders?)

Zhongli (a shielder for Neuvilette, if you're not going for his c1 and not going for Xilonen)

Chasca/Mavuika (we don't know what they do yet, I guess they're already ruled out as well because Natlan?)

[jade tendon]

"AoE"

[silk mango]

What main stats should I get on nahida artifacts?

[elder bluff]

depend on how she is used

[limber light]

what the best build for Nahida, for a cyno support?

[jade tendon]

How would Nahida support cyno??

[forest venture]

still 4pc deepwood for personal dmg, go em/dendro/crit
if you don't have a party member whose em is higher than nahida, get all em main stats instead

[jade tendon]

Wouldn't you only focus on EM? Cyno's uptime makes her kinda irrelevant

EM ER sounds more reasonable

[forest venture]

you'd focus on em if you don't use kuki (the hyperbloom trigger) alongside cyno and she's off field anyways

[limber light]

Yeahh I don't use Kuki

[lyric cargo]

hmm?

[strange scarab]

get em lady literacy

[dusty cape]

AoE refers to the gaming term Area of Effect. This refers to a move that effects multiple targets in a specified area whether it be healing or damage.

[strange scarab]

Gaming is a character from hit game Genshin Impact

[dusty cape]

Gaming is a 4* pyro claymore unit from hit game Genshin Impact (2020). He is a member of the Sword and Strongbox Secure Transport Agency as well as a member of the Mighty Mythical Beasts Wushou dance troupe.

I’m hitting Hidden50 wpm

[zinc needle]

is this true? does that mean if my team is yae nahida fischl kazu, nahida would want around 1k em?

[strange scarab]

youre taking advice from tiktok

[keen willow]

Yea 1000em and and 200cv is the best nahida build

[dusty cape]

^ but also why are we watching tiktok guides

[zinc needle]

it was on my fyp😢

[lyric cargo]

this one's from kqm:

my tl;dr: at equal substats, yes.

but EM mainstat is rarer, so substats probably worse?

also, dendro goblet can have 4 useful subs where EM goblet can't

[keen willow]

Em is probably not rarer than a good dendro or a good crit circlet

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[keen willow]

I've 50cv em goblets and my most dmg % is probably not even 30

[lyric cargo]

EM circ can have double crit subs

though crit circ can have crit + EM subs

[lyric cargo]

hmm, EM gob drop rate is 2.5% compared to the 5% to get a dmg% gob

[keen willow]

Rolling them is 0%

[lyric cargo]

the trick is to get 4 useful subs so they can't roll badly

have you tried doing that

[keen willow]

It rolled into flat atk

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't count that as 4 useful

but some chars just don't value ER, so yeah not always possible

this is the only one I have

surely if I put all my artifact crafting into dmg% goblets, I get more 🤔

[surreal bramble]

hmmm. Contemplating what teams I can do in general. Any input would be neat. ( Mainly trying to figure out what I'm using Nahida in though. )

[strange scarab]

ittoe solo

[surreal bramble]

Itto Gorou & two fillers tends to be what I do in multi-team content, since C6 lmao. Second team tends to be kinda a toss-up and I'm never too certain on what I'm doing with it tbh

[neon harness]

[surreal bramble]

Nahida, Nuv, Raiden, Zhongli?

[neon harness]

For Neuvi imo it’s hypercarry or nothing, kazuha fischk zhongli

[surreal bramble]

is fischl better than C2 raiden? Don't actually remember wtf fischl brings.

Also so hm, Alhaitham, Raiden, Nahida, ???

thought I'd have more use for this unit, should've held pity lmao.

[forest venture]

neuvi, , ,

[strange scarab]

[jolly junco]

neuv, nahida, zhongli, xiangling

[cloud pendant]

when do old relic sets usually get added to boxes?

Waiting for the Navia set

[jolly junco]

the first version of a new major version/nation addition

e.g 5.0

[cloud pendant]

only then? so navias set gonna have to wait till 6.0?

[jolly junco]

they could decide to add it sooner but at least based on previous examples, that would be the reasonable assumption

[lyric cargo]

I'm waiting for that as well, she's on 2pc 2pc for now

[cloud pendant]

yea her domain is so ass to farm, especially since i only need a sands

[lyric cargo]

if you only need one more piece and the domain is bad, you could use artifact crafting

[cloud pendant]

im hoarding for mavuika / citlali / tighnari pieces

[lyric cargo]

it's mostly a consideration if your other pieces are at a point where you're unlikely to get an upgrade though

[cloud pendant]

Navia sands are lowest on the priority list sadly

[sick quarry]

should i pull staff of homa? my hu tao is using r5 dragons bane while my arlecchino is using r5 white tassel

[lyric cargo]

the other weapon on the banner is kinda bad, unless you can use it for Mualani vape

I'll let others answer the homa question. c1 could also be a consideration

[keen willow]

Why is Bennett there

Possibly maybe but then you'd have three characters to build full em

Who else do you have

Send your character list

If you just need a healer you can probably build yaoyao

[lyric cargo]

worth noting: I think this is still for overworld

[keen willow]

For overworld yea 100% kazuha

[lyric cargo]

I'd still want a healer for overworld, so probably Yaoyao or Jean (depending on preference and environment puzzles)

you could argue you can just eat food
though I'm super stingy with resources

[keen willow]

Depends on your skill level. Kazuha if you can survive, healer if you can't

Bro sweet madames are basically free

You can get both the ingredients just by the daily thingy

Where you send characters to expedition

Its overworld.. do what suits you best

Use characters that dont have max friendship

There thats your answer

[forest venture]

what's going on

[keen willow]

Whats that even mean

He might not run for another year

Ye

[quaint fern]

look at wrio, ganyu, shenhe

they're overdue for reruns

reruns are unpredictable

[lyric cargo]

probably at some point during 5.X, but who knows it could be a shenhe situation

[forest venture]

ez just pull for who you like and who made you compelled to pull for

[lyric cargo]

usually it's just cryo chars that get that treatment though, not the banners that sell well

[quaint fern]

I dont think your account needs a nahida anyways

[keen willow]

Its a game pulling a character you like isn't gonna ruin your life or your account for that matter

[quaint fern]

you have one team and that's just rational :

[keen willow]

So pull for who you like

[quaint fern]

you dont have characters like haitham, ganyu, cyno, nilou, etc that actually want nahida

[keen willow]

Pull hutao end of discussion

[quaint fern]

bait used to be believable

[forest venture]

yea, and make the most of that like by specifically pulling for what you really loved. if i were you, i'd check every character demo and promotions to see if it charms me, then your choices will narrow

[quaint fern]

I have no idea if you're playing rational or hyperboom

i'm just assuming rational

[keen willow]

You said you like everyone

[quaint fern]

I still think that nuevi is a better pull in 5.x, but mauvika might be better
we don't know LOL

if you want neuvi the most then pull for him, skip nahida

end of story

[keen willow]

Technically yea I'd only put nahida above neviu or maybe yelan

Hutao is fun

[quaint fern]

pull ganyu

end of story

[keen willow]

Not necessarily

Hutao can clear anything those two can

[lyric cargo]

So, the problem was that you want to make combat in overworld easier. Right?
You're not worried about abyss / etc

Like I said yesterday, the chars you have can already kinda solve that:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865772611400368169/1300877377706004491/Kazuha-overworld.mp4?ex=67226ff7&is=67211e77&hm=691c5e4ab9b3a29d1c50b24f805566d10d368fdc62e5c47de870faac2f009a15&
Maybe I didn't come across right. I meant that Kaz is capable of that if you build him full EM

[forest venture]

i can empathize with you about the idea of "i truly want that (character X)", but trust me, do something else at this point. build a character, save your pulls, balance your daily life and genshin, what not

[lyric cargo]

ah

[keen willow]

Then pull nahida she solves one side of abyss alone

Wdym nah

All of us can agree nahida solves one side of abyss easy

[forest venture]

doesn't matter, almost all characters can grant him even the bare minimum of utilities and off field damage

[keen willow]

Aight

[lyric cargo]

I think Nahida is a fine way to quickly increase account strength

the downside is, she likely won't synergize with Natlan chars much
unless we get a new burgeon trigger

[forest venture]

but for this dilemma, sure pull nahida, she does a lot better than your dendro mc

[quaint fern]

well yeah this banner just literally gives you a whole team

[keen willow]

He's not on banner

[quaint fern]

if you want to clear one side of abyss easy, pull this

keep in mind that you still need something else for 2nd side

[keen willow]

You can have both mf

[forest venture]

and again we're not banner forecasters, just gen-helpers.

[quaint fern]

play 1618

we have no idea when he's running

[strange scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063698629833007145/1301081524287963199/abyss_overview.png?ex=67232e18&is=6721dc98&hm=05bedc6055b0f86f862d3f2602b9e9716cefc2c34e037c5b2e970e7e8bb1e384&

[lyric cargo]

worth noting, they're at like 63 pity and no kuki so far (only raiden)

[quaint fern]

if you're going to be rude, we're not going to spend our time helping you

[strange scarab]

Yay

[keen willow]

You can if he runs in 6 patches

[quaint fern]

says who? sources???

[strange scarab]

And how can you tell?

[forest venture]

[quaint fern]

sources are that you made it the hell up or are leaking, which isn't allowed here

[forest venture]

what about you make your decision after the 5.2 special program?

[strange scarab]

go find out on your own then fucking dumbass

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-im-done-gone-bye-gif-14331061352776093889

[strange scarab]

games so easy and you make it hard for yourself

[keen willow]

How many answers does this guy want

[strange scarab]

me neither thats just you being fucking suck at this game

[keen willow]

3 of us said pull nahida

You are stupid

[strange scarab]

Wow

yeah i might have to report that one

i couldnt care less

you said the n word

theres a line you shouldnt have crossed

[forest venture]

and where did we say you had to skip neuvilette?

it's like that pancakes and waffles argument all over again

[strange scarab]

does that justify you using the slur?

[quaint fern]

nahida xingqiu raiden healer

if you want to use kuki over raiden for the trigger then you can just add another subdps instead of healer like rosaria or fischl

now STOP being an ass will you?

[forest venture]

okay, just wait for the 5.2 special program, it will reveal the upcoming banners, and nahida's banner will still be up. good? good.

in that way you'll get clearer and concise options and your worries will narrow and narrow

next week

[lyric cargo]

yeah, waiting for the end of the banner is a good call if you're not sure
it sets up a good precedent of not impulse pulling as well

[strange scarab]

is that any worse than you calling me a racial slur?

all i did was point out where did you get your information from

which obviously you pull from leak

[quaint fern]

D: this team is only good for frontload

https://gcsim.app/sh/8gFqF6DfkLNp

worse than my c1 team https://gcsim.app/sh/KmmPfMWgBTbq

[quaint fern]

if it's just the first rotation: https://gcsim.app/sh/kFrdtLFJ7tMG

[strange scarab]

add xilonen in it

[quaint fern]

instead of kazu?

[lyric cargo]

what the
are her cons that bad 😅

[quaint fern]

tbh I dont even know how xilo works

[quaint fern]

probably bc I lost XL

I wanted to see if the nahida variant would be better, because you don't need to facehug the enemy

I can try that team but with XL

[lyric cargo]

Kaz buffs pyro here, or buffs cryo with a short remaining duration, right?

in that case, Xilonen should help yeah

[strange scarab]

shes like kazuha but stricter when it comes to shredding

[quaint fern]

swirls cryo first but it doesn't get snapshotted on burst

[strange scarab]

because you need to have at least 2 phec in team

[quaint fern]

gee I wonder which character every atk scaling nonspead dps wants

[lyric cargo]

yeah, and you need to trigger the reaction while her skill is active or you won't get the 40%

for that you get a longer duration and the res shred isn't conditional on triggering the reaction (only the dmg% is)

[quaint fern]

wait I'm being

I forgot to add nahida burst into the config

[strange scarab]

[quaint fern]

NO WONDER

[lyric cargo]

I, too, hate Nahida burst

unless I want to i-frame
it takes so much time and none of the damage gain is frontloaded

[quaint fern]

okay better, by a bit
https://gcsim.app/sh/Hr8f7wf9nJGw

[lyric cargo]

(I still use it at the start, but often don't refresh it when the enemies won't make it through another full rotation)

[quaint fern]

actually the frontloaded one does less dmg tho, probably bc of how long it takes for her burst to finish
https://gcsim.app/sh/CCHtzz89K6cQ

[lyric cargo]

what if you take off the c6? it's necessary for the team to function I assume?

[quaint fern]

yeah it won't work without c6

well the timing will probably work with c2 but you won't get the instant charges

okay wow xiangling adds a lot of damage, who would have guessed XD
https://gcsim.app/sh/dcBWzGww9fMn

[lyric cargo]

I can't take it anymore

pyro archon, save us

[quaint fern]

here's the frontload + four regular rotations
https://gcsim.app/sh/LLR7BwWWbKdd

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-korean-gamer-xiangling-xl-gif-25064192

[quaint fern]

the extra E gives you an additional 20k dps basically

[strange scarab]

i never noticed his face gets really red after

[quaint fern]

I'll try the shenhe teams with gcsim, but not now

Although I do remember that the energy costs were not pretty

Iirc you needed c1 to make calamity queller usable

[lyric cargo]

shenhe Xilonen Kazuha

[quaint fern]

Pyro where

I'm pretty sure her highest DMG teams are sunfire

[lyric cargo]

same-element support + double kazuha every dps
reject reactions, join the mono crew

[quaint fern]

Because that'll let you melt pretty much every arrow and icicle

[lyric cargo]

all jokes aside, best teams should really depend on what portion of your damage applies an element
Ganyu can melt all, so if mono was her best team that'd be sad

[quaint fern]

Doesn't sunfire apply 4u or smth crazy

[lyric cargo]

2u I heard

[quaint fern]

I forget

[lyric cargo]

not sure how frequently

[quaint fern]

It's been a while

[lyric cargo]

uptime is the problem I think

[quaint fern]

Quite frequently

[opal surge]

Surely kazuha can swirl second rotation here

[lyric cargo]

#📌gimshim-help message

aKen
Sunfire applies 2U of pyro, rapid fire and off field

the only problem is: Circle impact + insane ER reqs

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I never got solid numbers to calc with

but I guess it doesn't matter if it's frequently enough to maintain aura in every situation

[quaint fern]

Yeah this is why it's a c6 team

Most things will just die if you hit them with quill buffed CAs

this must be a really old abyss bc it looks like it has less than 2m hp but you get the point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whHPrV7HDbY

most normal things should just die

wait wtf their shenhe did a 93k hold skill

[tame cedar]

Is C2 arle worth it?

[keen willow]

[opal surge]

It's one of the better early cons in the game, wether or not it's worth it is up to you

[nova swift]

Not as worth it as you

[tame cedar]

So not a lot?

[tawny egret]

Any reccs for yanfei?

[jolly junco]

you need more crit rate

[lyric cargo]

get a crit rate circ.. oh, wait, that's already with a cr circlet

[acoustic tulip]

does c6 bennet affect navia?

is it better to run noblesse or crimson??
(my team is navia zhongli bennet xiangling)

[silk mango]

If I salvage artifacts for artifact essence items do I get the same amount of exp or lesser exp?

[elder bluff]

same amount. the extra are stored for the next convert

[opal surge]

It does not, and noblesse is better

[tame cedar]

Why is C6 Candace good with arlecchino?

[sage sail]

buffs NA dmg and hydro application is improved with c6

[tame cedar]

How much is the NA buff?

[lyric cargo]

40 dmg% iirc

[lyric cargo]

oh, it's uncapped, that's unusual

Passive 2: Celestial Dome of Sand
Characters affected by the Prayer of the Crimson Crown caused by Sacred Rite: Wagtail's Tide will deal 0.5% increased DMG to opponents for every 1,000 points of Candace's Max HP when they deal Elemental DMG with their Normal Attacks.

20k hp → 10% dmg bonus
40k → 20%
60k → 30%

let's assume Candace is lvl 90. That's 10875 baseHP.

• her ascension stat is 24 hp%
• three hp% main stats is 3x 46.6 hp%
• twelve max-roll hp% substats on flower and plume would be 12x 5.83 hp%
• the highest hp% substat spear is black tassel it seems, 46.9 hp%

10875 * (1 + .24 + .469 + 3 * .466 + 12 * .0583)
= 41,396

add 4780 flatHP from her flower:
46,176

46,176 / 1000 * 0.5 = 23.088% dmg bonus

weird, I was sure I heard 40% in a video recently

[opal surge]

She has NA% in her burst

[lyric cargo]

ah

[opal surge]

But also Candace has really high er reqs for arle

[lyric cargo]

so that's another 20 dmg%, then 40 was about right

[lyric cargo]

yeah, wanted to check the absolute ceiling before figuring out ER reqs

[opal surge]

Candace for arle is only really useful in AoE where you want arle to vape on every nearby target, she has too many downsides to yelan in single target, but it's nice to have a 4* option

It's a bit funny that arle needs C6 Candace and mualani needs Candace to not be C6 though

[lyric cargo]

oh, I didn't account for artifact sets that give hp%
anyways, it's unrealistic not to worry about ER at this point yeah

[opal surge]

I think her best in slot set might be instructors though

[lyric cargo]

keep petitioning for constellation disable

[opal surge]

So her stats will likely be pretty scuffed in between 4* set and high er reqs

[lyric cargo]

I think at that point, you look over at what the difference to Yelan is and run her instead

even though it's nice to finally have a use for Candace, it's not like Yelan is often needed on the other side

[opal surge]

But she can run dialogue of the desert sages since arle teams usually don't need favs

[jolly junco]

but candace doesn't heal?

[opal surge]

Oh true

I forgot U need to heal

Well back to being bricked ig

[acoustic tulip]

can someone help me build a yoimiya team without bennett cuz i am using him for navia

[strange scarab]

use c6 yunjin

[acoustic tulip]

shi i dont have c6 yunjin

wld bennett be better for yoimiya or navia

[strange scarab]

[crude kindle]

guys i just got sethos is he worth building

[opal surge]

Yoi furina yelan xilonen

I'm pretty sure that's her best team anyway, albeit it's not because of yoi

[acoustic tulip]

can u help me make two teams for floor 12

[opal surge]

Hu Tao yelan xingqiu zl | navia Bennet xiangling/fischl geomc

Both are fine on both sides, I think I would prefer the Tao team bottom half but it's up to you

[strange scarab]

[acoustic tulip]

can i use diona insted of zl and swap geomc w zl?

cuz my geomc not built

[jolly junco]

you can use an unbuilt kachina with navia as long as she has 4pc cinder city equipped

[acoustic tulip]

i dont have kachina

[jolly junco]

that said I would use zhongli with navia

because of the shield break on 2nd half

but I also wouldn't use diona with hu tao

[acoustic tulip]

Damn so im js cooked

[jolly junco]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Turbo_Twirly!

[acoustic tulip]

i havent done fontaine

[strange scarab]

you can skip immediately to natlan aq

[acoustic tulip]

wait fr??

[violet mantle]

That's what I did

[lyric cargo]

you can select quick start

do the first bit of it until you get Kachina

[opal surge]

U could play hutao yelan xq xiangling if U want to move zl to navias team

It can be a bit suspect to play if ure not used to it though

[lyric cargo]

hmm, who vapes there? still Ht + Xl?

I guess it has to be, if Yelan on her own is enough to make Hutao vape
and Xq is enough to make Xl vape

unless your hydro app stacks on top of each other, resulting in redundant aura

[opal surge]

They both vape yes

Tao and XL both have pretty high Pyro app but xq yelan should be enough to vape most if not all, the team just doesn't feel good to play (imo)

[acoustic tulip]

ah tysm

[opal surge]

Yelan technically doesn't keep up with hutaos Pyro app alone

But it's pretty close

[acoustic tulip]

will this team help me 9 star it

i managed to 3 star it but that was w a yoimiya team and navia

[opal surge]

The teams are able to 9 star, whether or not you will depends on your investment on the characters and other things

[wind bolt]

[acoustic tulip]

:

[lyric cargo]

you've probably found it by now, but here:

[lyric cargo]

ah. I think I heard you have to start with hydro aura and then you can maintain it

[acoustic tulip]

thanku

[lyric cargo]

might have been with Kazuha absorbing hydro 🤔

[violet mantle]

my WiFi is so bad so I prayge this sends.

What weapon should I put on Nahida if I don't plan on pulling on weapon banner?

I have lost prayers but that's on scara right now although I'm not sure how long I'll keep him on the team when I finally get a character I like (or actually build gorou) and then Fav thing the er one and then widsith? I can also craft mappa but I don't know if I should just wait for sac or is mappa best bet? (Or is there other catalysts idk abt)

[dusty cape]

you can use mappa or the magic guide until you get sac frags

[violet mantle]

Alright!! I pray for some favge and sac items eventually 😭

[tawny egret]

What can I do to have a better xiao

[mystic tiger]

on my alt to i try get c1 hutao or c0 nahida???
i have hutao lvl80 ganyu and kokomi lvl 70 furina lvl 60 cyno, mona snd qiqi lvl 40 and tighnari lvl 20

[dusty cape]

-better sands, circlet, and weapon
-level talents more

[tawny egret]

What f2p weapon would you recommend

[dusty cape]

well what polearms do you have

[dusty cape]

put xl on dragonsbane and put xiao on wavebreaker

I highly reccomend fishing for the catch and giving it to raiden if you’re not in inazuma already

[tawny egret]

Yeah I’m currently fishing for the catch but it’s gotta take a while

[keen willow]

Nahida makes your account stronger. But if you like hutao wanna keep playing her c1 is nice

I still think homa > c1

[fiery wigeon]

on yao yao using the flowers of paradise artifact set, is it better to run dendro damage bonus or EM on a hyper bloom team?

[keen willow]

... She's not the one triggering hyperbloom, that set is for your electro character

[fiery wigeon]

well her primary role in my team is bloom but i am thinking of doing some hyper bloom when i build sethos but rn she is jsut needed for bloom

i did run her on a hp hp set but healing is abou all she offered as her em wont ever be enough

[opal surge]

Are you playing nilou?

[fiery wigeon]

in the current team yes

she will be switched off after though

[opal surge]

So what team are you asking for

[fiery wigeon]

well rn i am thinking nahida, yaoyao, xingqui and sethos

[opal surge]

She would just go hp, she doesn't do personal damage nor will she have bloom ownership

[fiery wigeon]

i was thinkign baizhu but personally i find him mid unless i run alhitham

ohh

welp

[jolly junco]

sethos doesn't work very well outside of aggravate with fischl

[quaint fern]

i'd probably need to swap bennett to instructors huh?

[candid swallow]

Hey gamers does res shred stack?

[quaint fern]

yeah, should be additive

but you get diminishing returns once you go beyond 0 res

[acoustic tulip]

which one better for bennett

[quaint fern]

neither

I wouldn't build him for damage

[violet mantle]

I thought he used pyro dmg anyways

[keen willow]

Why doesn't your hutao have that 17cr goblet

[violet mantle]

Yeah give her the cr one n them benny can have the er one ?

[acoustic tulip]

i dont use hutao

i use navia/yoimiya

[keen willow]

Oh.. even still I'd give benne the er one

[violet mantle]

yesyes lots of er

[acoustic tulip]

ok thx

[keen willow]

He uses hp% most times

[violet mantle]

does he?

Honestly I am crusty I thought he used pyro more

[opal surge]

Some people build him for healing some build him so that he does a little bit more damage per rotation

It's mostly resin efficient to just do HP and ER

[quaint fern]

I just don't think it's worth the resin for farm for bennett dmg

[violet mantle]

I mean if they already have the pieces what's the harm honestly

[quaint fern]

the problem is that they really aren't

you don't want to be using crim on him

instructors, exile, petra (works if you have a geo and can't run petra on them like xilo), hero, noblesse

those are all better options

100k if I ignore batterying for next rotation

https://gcsim.app/sh/JHJKwWL6TzpH

(I will be forced to pull c1 shenhe )

[violet mantle]

but I meant like

if they already have an off piece pyro goblet n they're using noblesse what's the harm

[quaint fern]

yeah, you could

[marsh laurel]

https://medal.tv/games/genshin-impact/clips/iZ8Vmbazxoplnvrgz?invite=cr-MSxESzAsMTk5OTkyMDI0LA
why do I do so little dmg on my raiden 64K dmg on crit hit

using the catch R5

[dusty cape]

what is nahida doing

also use this instead to display build, the stats don't really tell us much https://enka.network

[unkempt river]

Anyone got the time to check my builds and tell me who I should prioritize?

https://enka.network/u/761948897/

[dusty cape]

hmmmm all look pretty good, the only thing would probs be a healing bonus circlet for benny and going for a full set like guided on haitham

[unkempt river]

I feel like going for 4pc gilded isn't worth it? I alr got a good build and it'd take a while to get equvalent pieces on gilded. And since Nahida is built too I don't really need to farm the deepwood domain which leads me to think that it's not very resin efficient?

Also is healing bonus circlet substantially better than an HP one for Benny?

[haughty lotus]

2pc2pc is fine on alhaitham. Just level his NA more

[lyric cargo]

afaik, 2pc 2pc is quite close to 4pc gilded

[haughty lotus]

Get xiangling ATK or EM sands

[unkempt river]

She needs that er tho... Sometimes I've had to funnel into her when her burst isn't up...

[haughty lotus]

What team

[unkempt river]

Mostly Raiden, Chev, Xl, Benny

Would 193 er be enough?

[haughty lotus]

ER sands is way too much then

[unkempt river]

61 over 122 crit

[dusty cape]

if it’s fine by you, I honestly couldn’t find anything else

[unkempt river]

Aight ty for the time!

[acoustic tulip]

what to improve?

[quaint fern]

Talent levels and artifacts (all of them)

You have 16 useful substats

[dusty cape]

back to the mines

[fading vortex]

Should i get nahida or Just skip?

Im guaranteed a 5 star

[quaint fern]

If you still play haitham then sure

You might find Furina to have better pull value though

[fierce oriole]

Guys whats better on Neuvillette ? I already counted the MH 36+ crit rate
A: 310 crit damage with 58 crit rate
B:250 crit damage with 94 crit rate ?

[fading vortex]

58 cr is mid asf

Id Rather alwaus crit but less dmg then SOMETIMES crit but do big dmg

[opal surge]

[fading vortex]

Hes my 2nd main

[sour birch]

🤔

[haughty lotus]

2 more er

[dusty cape]

hydro's yearly visit :omaigah:

[sour birch]

i come by pretty frequently

[sick terrace]

Where the fuck

[elder bluff]

use elemental sight fr fr

[sick terrace]

Didn't do shit dawg, the trail went straight into a wall

The other side has nothing there

[elder bluff]

it is far from the location. you need to go further

[zinc needle]

I have an em circlet with cr cdmg substat

should I put that on her

[haughty lotus]

Use optimizer

[zinc needle]

nilou kirara nahida mona or barbara?

[haughty lotus]

Barbara

[zinc needle]

I'm gonna build her em right??

[haughty lotus]

Yeah sac frags and full em

[strange scarab]

[dusty cape]

guobal

[zinc needle]

who will be the onfield char ? Kirara or barb?

[dusty cape]

barb

[haughty lotus]

ara

[dusty cape]

ikuyo

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/may-barbatos-forgive-you-but-i-wont-barbara-genshin-impact-barbatos-emo-gif-22746544

[strange scarab]

madam read