📌gimshim-help

[jovial prawn]

Or should I change the artifcat set itself?

[haughty lotus]

90 weapon > level talents > farm shimenawa/emblem domain

[jovial prawn]

What level should I increase the talents to?

10-9-8?

After that I might prioritise artifcats if I have decent then I'll go for 10-9-9.

[haughty lotus]

Sure. Burst doesn’t matter as much when you’re on shimenawa tho

[jovial prawn]

Is shimenawa better than crimson witch then?

Like it decreases the burst damage in the rotation. And focuses only on increasing charge attack damage. Where as crimson witch increases Pyro damage and reaction damage. I don't have C1 so I can't do as many charge attacks so I'll have to check for my burst damage as well right?

[haughty lotus]

It’s equal. Farming crimson is very inefficient tho. Shimenawa comes with emblem

[jovial prawn]

Ahh now I get it.. 😐 then I'll pretend that I am farming for yelan and I'll get her artifcats 😉 and this would help xingqiu too

Anyways for staff of scarlet sands passive to be working how much em should I maintain?

[haughty lotus]

There’s no right number for that

You’ll likely want em sands unless you have em buffs on the team and/or a lot of em substats. You can also use optimizer, but that won’t do much for you now since you don’t have many artifacts

[jovial prawn]

I will be using kazuha with this team

[lyric cargo]

huh, I wasn't aware how scuffed the setup for Xilonen + Freedom Sworn are.

It requires triggering two reactions, but because of the global 1s crystallize ICD you need to wait a moment

or you open a menu (booking), to bypass crystallize global ICD

[jovial prawn]

We can cancel ICD using menu?

[lyric cargo]

only the global crystallize ICD, I think

how is there not a page on booking

was expecting there to be a list of all the effects it has

[jovial prawn]

You might have discovered something really big then ☄️

[lyric cargo]

I learned it from a video 😅

Zajef and jamie both mentioned it

[jovial prawn]

No problem you'll discover something someday ✨

I hope so.

[jolly junco]

its not really a big deal outside of speedrunning

[lyric cargo]

ah, hmm
I thought waiting 1s would feel like forever in combat, in the middle of your setup

[quaint fern]

oh is that why some people book during speedruns?

I had no idea what that actually does

[lyric cargo]

usually it's for particles

[zealous ledge]

Remember those gifs saying “when will this character get a rerun? how can I know? wait for livestream”

Pls lmk where you made them!!

[jolly junco]

there are multiple reasons why people book

catching particles and animation cancelling/bypassing swap cd are some of the most common ones

[lyric cargo]

oh, it bypassed swap cd

that sounds maybe better than me mashing the swap button until it works 😅

[honest heart]

wait there is no platinum badge?

[neon wave]

nope, no plat

[honest heart]

ic ok

[opal surge]

Mfw when I'm watching lowcost speedruns with 4stars and every swap cd is getting booked

[rugged sparrow]

I've seen worse

a Neuv speedrun with every CA tick being booked

[opal surge]

https://imgur.com/lqf2Ig7

[rugged sparrow]

peak gameplay

[lyric cargo]

what does that do? 😄

[lyric cargo]

reminds me of frame-perfect speedrun tricks like barrier skip in Windwaker

[near prism]

booking is cringe and mid

well, it can be useful, but its boring

[gray oxide]

^

[forest venture]

raiden overvape rotation:
raiden e, xq eq, bennett q+e, xl e+q, raiden q f3 wishx10

fn+f3 if you're using 60% keyboard

[lyric cargo]

I'd do QE on Xiangling to pre-funnel particles for the next rotation

afaik, you do another Bennett E after Raiden's on-field time to further lower Xiangling's ER req

ERC:
#📌gimshim-help message

Lemon:
assumes 2E per rotation on bennett, xiangling skill put to 0.5 to account for gouba being inconsistent at hitting sometimes, particle rng put to safe to account for raiden's E

also assumes favonius on xingqiu

if you get c6 xingqiu then change the bonus non particle energy in his section from 20 to 32 (since his c6 provides roughly 12 bonus non particle energy)

raiden provides 20-25ish which is why right now he has 20 bonus non particle energy in his section

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073722731939504218/1131965056448475276/image.png?ex=671daddc&is=671c5c5c&hm=a4c2fb7a3af1780365bbb21e3b197280859043cbd55df02e112debf3e7c673d1&

[forest venture]

raiden combo: f3 wishx10 esc esc reconfigure party setup swap to neuvilette level up auto add ascend 6x artifacts click auto equip confirm 3x

[azure raptor]

Question: in a xilonen,navia,bennett,xiangling comp,
Does xilonen also shred geo res?

[opal surge]

She does yes

[azure raptor]

Great, thanks!

[rugged sparrow]

should be reducing the intervals between ticks

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16D421G7jC

[versed mortar]

Does Xilonens E not work on bosses ?

[opal surge]

it does work against bosses

[versed mortar]

But when I hit the narval in her E it did nothing

[sick quarry]

would c5 thoma be better for kinch then c0 xiangling or

[lyric cargo]

What was the team you were using?

[versed mortar]

Navia Furina Xilonen Zhongli

Oh is it because too many geos

[jolly junco]

you need c2+ xilonen to use her off-field in triple/four geo teams

[versed mortar]

What do these do ?

[lyric cargo]

looks like a food? I don't think I can look it up, that looks like french

(I have all my games set to english to make it easier to look things up)

[versed mortar]

Yeah its just this type of food with this star icon is new to me, and it doesnt specify what it does, if it does anything

[lyric cargo]

it seems to be the icon for "other"

if I had the food's name, I'd google for that + genshin fandom

[versed mortar]

interesting, thanks

[sick quarry]

its called glittering gemstones when i used one a bit back all i noticed was effects arround my char (they dissapear tho)

[sick quarry]

"Depending on the quality, Glittering Gemstones heals the target Character for 1 HP every 8 seconds for 32/40/48 seconds, while briefly displaying the logo of the Children of Echoes"

[keen willow]

1 hp?

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Glittering_Gemstones

[sick quarry]

yeah lmao its pretty cheap to make so ig thats a factor in why

[elder bluff]

It is a way to trigger MH set

[opal surge]

[keen willow]

Finally i can play hutao on mh

Outside abyss

[lyric cargo]

imagine actually using food other than fried eggs

[dusty cape]

[spice pecan]

Hello I need a bit of help I dont fully understand how Kazuha works. So I have a couple questions

When he uses abilty or burst he lowers the resistance of opponents and he lowers it more when he has viridisecent verner and this buffs your main dps. To increase this you level up his talents

We also want elemantel mastery so Kazuha deals more damage because Kazuha is anemo he can infuse with other elements to deal damage.
So my EM does not change how much it bufs my main dps's damage
Right?

[rugged sparrow]

1. he only lowers resistance due to Viri set, he does not have innate resistance shred
2. you want more EM because of Kazuha's A4 ascension on top of his personal damage
3. it does

[lunar dagger]

Usable for neuvi?

[rugged sparrow]

it's one roll away from 50cv, take a guess

[lunar dagger]

It was a 5 starter it low rolled cd once

[lunar dagger]

I'm guessing I'm locked on the flower tho right

Yeah 4 statter mb

[rugged sparrow]

well unless you have another one with similar cv but better subs (HP% or ER% rolls)

[lunar dagger]

I'm not gonna push my luck maracheusse is a bitch

Gt is like free real estate but mh is like fuck you

[rugged sparrow]

real

[lunar dagger]

I'm telling u it took me no more than 500 resin for furina

And she's got a decent 70/150 180 er with 40k hp

Like gt is such a send bro

[narrow folio]

If she's not in the top 1% then it's not good enough

Queen deserves the best

[opal surge]

[narrow folio]

That goes for Navia too

[lunar dagger]

I play this shit and hour a day bro

[opal surge]

Not like you would get better artifacts if you were to play it for 20h a day compared to playing to 10 minutes a day

[narrow folio]

Your point? You don't get better artifacts the more you play each day

Just get lucky

Still working on my GT build, it's only top 3%

[neon halo]

Guys what is Genshin impact?

[narrow folio]

A terrible game

[vapid escarp]

what is the best artifact for neuv

[opal surge]

Marechausee hunter

[dusty cape]

marshmallow hunger

[opal surge]

Wish for the one you want more

If it's nahida then you can't guarantee anyway if you lose you lose it is what it is

At least you have the garantuee then

[steady shuttle]

Should I use guarantee for xilonen?

[opal surge]

If you want her

They're all good characters just grab who you like

That's genuinely it

If you're looking at raw how good characters are neuvilette is better than hutao as dps and furina is better than nahida as support

But they're all among the better characters in the game there's no poor choice

If U want to play transformative dendro teams you should pick up nahida fwiw

No

Yeah that's fine

Neuv kazuha Kachina diona

Lisa xiangling if you hate yourself

Sara does literally nothing

Neither does bennet

Neuvilette is a HP scaler he couldn't care less for attack

Neuvilette

[rugged sparrow]

why do you assume an HP scaler doesn't have high dmg

or at least implied it

ok

do you know what hp scaler means

[opal surge]

His damage scales off his HP

[rugged sparrow]

it just means Neuv doesn't use atk for his dmg but HP

and Bennett Sara both buff atk (with Sara being completely useless for non-electro teams, especially at non-c6)

I don't think you're really in a place to negotiate, given your limited roster

Sensi's recommendations are already good as they are

[rugged sparrow]

they wanted alternative, got XL + Lisa (which they also don't like)

so

maybe come back once you have all units available

which is probably godawful to play compared to the first option

[opal surge]

I strongly recommend sticking to Kachina diona

And replacing them in the future with furina +1

Zhongli/xilonen

[rugged sparrow]

probs something like
Neuv E > Kachina E > Kazuha hEQ > Diona hE (Q) > Neuv 3-4x CA combo

[opal surge]

Ye probs

Can diona hE first if U commit to doing only 3 CA ig

[rugged sparrow]

don't think Diona shield would last long enough (or survive long enough) for the whole CA

[opal surge]

Skill

Q is burst

hE is hold skill

[rugged sparrow]

t = tap
h = hold

[dusty cape]

[rugged sparrow]

go for it then

not that we know when his rerun is

we... literally just told u

[opal surge]

[opal surge]

About to be banned from tavern too

[dusty cape]

[rugged sparrow]

he uses HP to deal dmg unlike most other units that use ATK

that's it

correct

4p Marechaussee Hunter

[rugged sparrow]

Proto Amber

[dusty cape]

prototype amber

[rugged sparrow]

thought you were gonna forward again

[dusty cape]

me actually typing words

[primal latch]

Is there a point in doing the optonal quest in the archon quest?

[rugged sparrow]

leads to different dialogues/outcomes if you care about it

[lyric cargo]

if you can't reach soft pity (73 wishes) on Xilonen, I'd say wait
the Nahida banner will have good 4-stars and without soft pity it's only like a 35% chance you'll get her

on the Nahida banner, you get good 4-stars on the way to soft pity, and if you happen to get her early that's fine

[opal surge]

I don't think xilonen is in consideration

[lyric cargo]

when you hit soft pity there, you can decide whether you want her or some other char

[lyric cargo]

oh, maybe I mixed that up with someone else who was asking

[lyric cargo]

ah yeah, was someone else

[opal surge]

At least they didn't mention her now, maybe they did another time

[lyric cargo]

there's pretty much only one team you on-field her in

though it's the one you would be playing, if you get her + Xq + Kuki from her banner

I played it first side in abyss, this time

I'd say the main appeal of her right now is that her banner gives you a whole team

she's fallen a bit out of meta, from her former position before Fontaine

for a new player, getting a whole team could let you start clearing abyss relatively fast

I'd say getting c0 is still a good idea for team versatility

I ended up getting c2 back when she was more "meta", which I'd probably undo if I could

yeah, he's probably the top dps in the game

easily top 4 in terms of dps
and then if you consider how good his AoE is and how smooth he feels to play, I'd say he just wins

to me, good AoE is the most important part about a dps
single target is often not as problematic

but using a single target dps against multi-wave content with multiple enemies you have to chase, is just miserable

[narrow folio]

[keen willow]

Finally lvl 90 zhongli

[unkempt willow]

should i swap it

[jolly junco]

Yes

unless you really need those 2 more ER rolls or bricked rotations

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/
build cards will give better feedback

the amount of ER you need also depends on the team, though

[unkempt willow]

#👥gimshim-coop

[unkempt willow]

how will it give me feedback, ive never used it like that

[opal surge]

it wont give you feedback

it allows the helpers in this channel to give more accurate feedback when you post it

[unkempt willow]

ohhhh

[lyric cargo]

yeah, you upload the build card here and it lets us see your artifacts / weapon / talent levels / etc all in one image

[unkempt willow]

that makes more sense

[lyric cargo]

this is how to get the cards

though I assume you arleady know, it sounds like you've used it

[unkempt willow]

i ended up swapping the piece, so this is where im at for him

[craggy vapor]

Is a team of Tighnari, Sethos, Yae Miko, and Nahida any good? as like a quick swap team

[rugged sparrow]

should work in theory but no defensive utility so

[craggy vapor]

Pshh who needs defence

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[lyric cargo]

most pieces look okay-ish, except for the circlet (he's not a defense scaler, so the one roll of crit dmg is the only thing that improves his damage here)

[unkempt willow]

got it, thank you 🫡

[lyric cargo]

that's an interesting off-piece for a defense scaling support, who's holding fav and wants crit rate
so I'd keep it for that eventuality

[unkempt willow]

btw hes not on sac bc someone yelled at me in VC for having layla on fav and xingqiu on sac, and made me switch them

[unkempt willow]

hows this ? idk why it was just sitting there at +8 so i leveled it and i got this

[haughty lotus]

Sac doesn’t do anything for Layla. Xingqiu usually wants favonius but an r3+ sac is also fine

[lyric cargo]

sac on Xq produces extra hydro particles, but lengthens the rotation

it's mostly interesting damage-wise if his build is very good, the skill is leveled, and he gets to vape both uses of the skill

in general I'd prefer fav, though it can be okay to use sac to free it up

there's also the Fontaine fishing sword, if you need to free up more swords

[lyric cargo]

it depends on the team. one has more crit, the other more ER

you can try it out and see if you get your burst back in time or if your rotation gets stuck trying to funnel her an absurd amount

[unkempt willow]

see thats what i was saying, this is why i dont like listening to you guys some times. idk if im gonna get help or snotty high-horsed shaming

these guys helping me today are great tho, thank you :)

[brittle cipher]

do i need to more er?

[cloud drift]

im struggling to decide what teams to use for floor 12, tips? (will be getting nahida next phase if i win)

[neon harness]

Depends on team

[lyric cargo]

Zhongli second side, to break geo shields quickly.
bring a team that can deal good amounts of damage in short time windows, before the enemy recovers

[brittle cipher]

i usually use xingqiu whenever i use yelan

[sage sail]

Gimme that sands

[opal surge]

yes

no team that has this ERreq on yelan also plays eosf on yelan

[lyric cargo]

here's an offpiece

[brittle cipher]

how much er should i aim for then?

[opal surge]

depends on team

but basically the only team where yelan has er req this low is like monohydro stuff

if you run 120 er you basically dont have a 4piece

so if ur er requirement is actually this low you should probably not play emblem but go hp/dmg 2p with ER substats to fill

[brittle cipher]

oh jinkies

should i swap out the weapon

or get er sands

[opal surge]

I cant tell you without knowing the team xd

[brittle cipher]

i usually use yelan, xingqiu, baizhu, nahida or yelan, xingqiu, xiangling, bennett

[opal surge]

ur prolly fine with like 130ish er ig in those teams

[brittle cipher]

alrighty thanks

[lunar dagger]

your names telling me everythiing i need to know rn

[narrow folio]

Not entirely sure what you mean since I'm right about this

[neon halo]

I’ll gugu your gaga

[narrow folio]

You can play ten minutes every day only condensing and doing artifact runs and have a top 1% build

[lunar dagger]

also akasha doesnt prove shit nor is it imporant

yall r so focused on this useless shit

[narrow folio]

Well I was half joking when I even brought that up

Never said it was a useful metric

[lunar dagger]

just have fun with the game and spawn your 3 minions and let them rip shit to shred who cares about 1%

[narrow folio]

Sounds like someone doesn't have a top 1% build

[lunar dagger]

l ragebait

[narrow folio]

Regardless, my point still stands. Doesn't matter how much you play, doesn't affect how good your build is unless you just don't farm artifacts

[calm burrow]

Hey, can anyone explain Arlecchino and how to play her in razor terms? I usually just smash buttons and sometimes she does really big damage, like oneshot anyone, but idk how to trigger that

[lunar hedge]

that what i do if i have her C6 in theater

[narrow folio]

E > swap to supports > swap back > charge attack > NA spam

[calm burrow]

Thanks!

[craggy vapor]

Ok so I'm running Wrio, Shenhe, Deyha, and Xilonen. Is this team decent or should I replace someone?

[quaint fern]

Yeah you're not melting

You can probably just drop dehya and go Furina

That's what I'd do

[craggy vapor]

I'm trying to keep Furina for my Neuvi team, which was Neuvi, Furina, Xilonen, Kazuha. And i was trying to find a good team to run with my Wrio

[quaint fern]

His melt teams look like wrio dehya/Thomas xianglinglNahida(or any off field dendro besides DMC) Bennett

[quaint fern]

Okay so xilo is here anyways?

If you're planning to use neuvi and wrio in abyss you can't have two xilo

[craggy vapor]

Well the four of them together is a BIT overkill for just about anything, so I was gonna swap one of them to the other side

[quaint fern]

Play the (burn)melt core then

You're not using Bennett in neuvi team

[craggy vapor]

circle time it is I suppose

[quaint fern]

You can still use shenhe on place of Bennett, but I don't think the ER reqs will be pretty

[craggy vapor]

Is the attack buff better for him instead of the cryo res shred? or is it just cause of the melts

[quaint fern]

Shenhe basically does the same thing but without healing, limited amounts of quills but has dmg% and res shred

Bennett is probably just better

Plus shenhe's energy will not be nice

[neon harness]

qa-=

[quaint fern]

ta

[nova swift]

bro said "oh jinkies"

[dusty cape]

not as jinkies as you

[torpid jewel]

how do i pump those number up

[lyric cargo]

TIL: Shenhe shreds res

but it's only 15%, at burst talent lvl 10?

[lyric cargo]

I don't know if they're real mechanics. I just kept continuing the missions, and eventually it was done

[torpid jewel]

i know, but i am aiming for maximum casualty

seems like these npc has their hp cap.. they cant die no matter how long i wait

[nova swift]

They are, the longer you take and the choices you make affect the outcome

[forest venture]

don't gather all the 6 heroes

[silk mango]

Hi

Is it worth refining sac fragments for nahida?

[jolly junco]

refinements do not matter for nahida

[silk mango]

Ok
Thank you

[sterile ridge]

since i already get 115% geo damage bonus on my navia should i just go for an atk goblet?

[rugged sparrow]

what team are you running

[quaint fern]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/characters

[rugged sparrow]

and also that ^

[lyric cargo]

it seems unlikely, but you can calc it yeah

[quaint fern]

tbh I think you'll be fine tho

normally you're with bennett anyways

my ganyu gets like 121 dmg% on her FFB and she's still on cryo gob

my wrio's CA is at like 320 dmg% LOL

[strange scarab]

how do i ensure every npc were rescued

[forest venture]

no focused experience on event quest? ew

[lyric cargo]

what's a reasonable talent level for Layla?
I know her priority is skill > burst. Is lvl6 skill okay, or do I want to level it high for the shield to actually hold reliably?

[forest venture]

maybe keep at 6 because it's giving a small increase in base shield

[rugged sparrow]

I crown all my 90/90 chars so

[lyric cargo]

triple?!

[rugged sparrow]

at least one, triple is reserved for specific chars

my Layla's E is crowned

[lyric cargo]

that one at least makes sense, I thought for a moment you crowned everything including NA ^^

since it didn't sound like the crowning was related to whether the talent was good

[rugged sparrow]

let's see, Layla t1 shield (assuming 30k HP) is 8003 HP

t10 is 15184

for your case t6 is 11560

[lyric cargo]

I do have the +3 TL constellation

[rugged sparrow]

(this is assuming c1 with TotM)

wait so t9?

t9 is 14.2k shield HP

if you think that's comfortable enough then

[lyric cargo]

I'll probably level it, it's just going to be a question of when

I level talents when events / overflowing mastery gives me the talent mat

[rugged sparrow]

t11 is 16.1k shield strength

getting nearly 2k shield HP just from 2 talent levels sounds like a reasonable investment to me

(and this is assuming your Layla only has 30k HP)

[lyric cargo]

she shares the talent book with Nahida, I'll prioritize Layla over Nahida
I assume the current event gives Nahida mats

[rugged sparrow]

main event gives all mats of the corresponding region, I'm pretty sure

from books to weapon ascension

[lyric cargo]

she's currently lvl70, with 39k hp
she's stealing Key from Furina for an achievement that requires a cryo char (Chimalli's Shade)

legit the first cryo char I'm leveling

[rugged sparrow]

t11 will give you 19.5k HP shield then

from 17.3k (from t9)

[lyric cargo]

the video guide I'm following says to use Kaeya + Zhongli
so she's going to try and be the shielder instead of Zl who I don't have

[rugged sparrow]

I just Wrio that shit

[lyric cargo]

I guess 4pc tenacity would still be better for shield strength than 2pc 2pc hp%
even though it's a Neuvilette team (so the atk% buff is wasted)

[rugged sparrow]

it is better yes

also I might fuck up the numbers earlier cuz idr which one is multiplicative between TotM and her c1

[wary vessel]

quick question. c6 kaeya good for melt arle or not enough application for consistent melt?

[rugged sparrow]

it should be enough since Arle doesn't melt all her attacks

[wary vessel]

ok tyty

[rugged sparrow]

unless you add another pyro source from other team members

[wary vessel]

hmm.. layla kaeya benny arle or something? should be good enough?

[lyric cargo]

likely Bennett, and then the last unit might be Kazuha?
might want to avoid absorbing pyro if so

[wary vessel]

oh yeah kazu

[lyric cargo]

or Xilonen

either one would be shredding pyro res and buffing pyro dmg%

[rugged sparrow]

well u dont want Kaz to infuse pyro with burst

[wary vessel]

xilonen prolly more effective?

[rugged sparrow]

I say just forget about melting her attacks and run Arle/Bennett/Layla/Xilonen (or Kaz)

[opal surge]

Play both kazuha and xilo and don't play kaeya true

[lyric cargo]

I assume Xilonen would lead to better QoL than Kazuha
Arle E → Xil E N2 → Ben Q → Kaeya EQ → Arle CA
making use of Xilonen's longer uptime compared to Kazuha

or monopyro for easy swirls and crystallizes (for scroll), yeah

[wary vessel]

imma test when i get good arti for kaeya. tyty

[lyric cargo]

just enough ER to burst, tbh
always ensuring cryo aura and not extending rotations

arle's build should matter more

[wary vessel]

yea. arle is good enough but im just starting with kaeya so. prolly a few days for farming er for him/

[near prism]

c1 is multiplicative

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus is u like vro

[rugged sparrow]

ok it's the c1, I inputted totm being the multiplicative one

welp w/e numbers shouldn't be too far off

[near prism]

to make it simple, c1+ with 4pc totm will get 84.8% additional shield strength

[rugged sparrow]

yeh the other way round is 87 so

[near prism]

(1+0.3+0.24)*1.2

[rugged sparrow]

just minor diff

[near prism]

ye, not a huge diff

[lyric cargo]

nice, able to cap the sig's passive without using 2 def% main stats

(because of the weapon and her passive buffing def, I heard you need 2889 def at 80/90 and 2865 at 90/90)

[rugged sparrow]

ye capping passive is easy, Im sitting at 3.8k DEF rn with triple DEF
feather has no def% and still looking for HB circlet

[lyric cargo]

funny how the circlet has 0 useful substats and it's still enough

[feral reef]

em for shield 🔥

[gilded lake]

Can someone help me ?

[lyric cargo]

With what? (Always better to specify)

[gilded lake]

With reputation bounty

Need to kill monsters

Asia
893755481

[lyric cargo]

oh, you might want to try #👥gimshim-coop
it's not the most active channel, but people in this one aren't always logged in when chatting

(there's also the official discord, if you're looking for a more active coop channel)

[gilded lake]

Oh,Okay.. Thank yu though!

[indigo gull]

just finished the event, if i take a break from Genshin for the 15 day bonus, will I miss out on anything?

[neon wave]

https://www.hoyolab.com/article/34470471
You should be able to do the combat event in full, might miss one or two Liben days though
(Playing would be more profitable in general btw, if you're only doing it for the bonus)

[wary vessel]

furina ei should work now that xilonen exist right?
like. furina ei xilonen bennet is a good team for hypercarry now instead of hoping for sara c6? or is sara c6 just that good with her?

[opal surge]

it was fine to begin with xilo doesnt really change anything

(with kazuha)

[rugged sparrow]

Sara c6 isn't that good with her

she's always been replaceable

by the time Furina came Sara c6 is just

[opal surge]

Its not actually that sara c6 is the limiter for raiden hyper, usualyl its more like recommendable to have raiden cons for raiden hyper

and if you do have raiden cons the chance that you have c6 sara is kinda high

[rugged sparrow]

me with c3 Sara c2 Raiden

[wary vessel]

ahh i see. ig i just assumed c6 sara is a must for her cuz almost all the raiden hypercarry teams have her.

[rugged sparrow]

got to c5 Sara from standard

[opal surge]

im farming deepwood and boxing totm, but i have neither set ready for nahida release

[lyric cargo]

there's also Raiden Furina Yelan Xilonen

before, the last unit had to be Jean or Xianyun (with ttds)

I still don't particularly like the team, I guess it shines if your Yelan is at high investment (her sig is only really good on teams where she doesn't have high ER req)

[opal surge]

[wary vessel]

i think ill stick with raiden hyperbloom instead of stripping away my xl artis and her catch to make raiden work lol.

[lyric cargo]

good. now replace Raiden with Kuki so you have a healer

embrace the Sumeru low investment meta

(Raiden's skill triggers every 0.9s , Kuki's every 1.5s. So Raiden HB actually has a higher damage ceiling than Kuki, as if you trigger more than 2 HBs at once and they hit the same enemy, the rest will be wasted to bloom ICD)

healerless Raiden hb is fine if enemies aren't very aggressive though, or you're playing at range (kuki only procs bloom cores in melee range)

[wary vessel]

my xiangling so mid, icant stand it but i dont wanna go back to farming emblem or strongboxing it.
its good enough to burst every rotation its good enough

[wary vessel]

yea the only team i use for hyperbloom is kuki nahida onfield xq yelan anyway so, yea lol.

[distant leaf]

i have my furina c2 should her goblet be hp% or hydro dmg bonus

[coral vortex]

hello anyoen can help me?

[strange scarab]

#📌gimshim-help

[cobalt sigil]

Hu Tao is coming back and I have no savings, please send help and quest recommendations

Also, would it be better to go for C1 or Homa?

[lyric cargo]

honstely Arlecchino

unless your criteria are just different from mine

do you already have c0?

[cobalt sigil]

I have c0 hu tao and C1 arle, why do I need her

[lyric cargo]

afaik, c1 is the playstyle and quality of life upgrade
homa is the damage upgrade

[languid ruin]

should I pull for xilonen? im only thinking about mavuika rn

[opal surge]

c1 is a big damage upgrade as well

unless its being comapred to c0 + xianyun

[cobalt sigil]

I want Xianyun, she's funny bird :3

[cobalt sigil]

I pulled her cuz I like her and she's a really good support that doesn't mess with reaction teams cuz she's Geo

[opal surge]

c0 with xianyun used to be about the same as c1 without

with xilonens release this is no longer true

xilonen c1 is quite far away from xianyun c0 now, but hu tao c1 dps is also skill based

[cobalt sigil]

I also don't 100% know how to slot in my Xilonen cuz I also have Kazuha for Hu Tao

[opal surge]

her best team on paper is hu tao furina yelan xilonen

[cobalt sigil]

I can do that

[languid ruin]

If I place xilonen and kazuha side by side, how are they in comparison?

[opal surge]

the same

[cobalt sigil]

They are the same except Kazuha can group and Xilonen can heal

[lyric cargo]

the size of the buff and res shred is very similar
kazuha groups, xilonen heals
xilonen's buff and res shred have a longer duration, which makes rotations more flexible

[languid ruin]

huge thanks

[opal surge]

Xilonen has a couple upsides, especially in multiwave

but she is in danger of becoming bricked as soon as a more universal scroll holder gets added

(potentially mavuika)

[lyric cargo]

right, I forgot to mention multi wave

[languid ruin]

Trueee that's what got me doubting because mavuika is close

[cobalt sigil]

Unless she's a Pyro DPS again

[grand dagger]

Any Asia server peeps here want to coop in thrill event? I got 5 hours left and haven't finished a single match

[jolly junco]

my new favourite hu tao team

[opal surge]

Its fun to play

I do miss the aoe bandaid that was xianyun though

[jolly junco]

say no to plunging https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0pBpQZpLxQ

[opal surge]

do you have cons on xilo

[jolly junco]

Nope

[neon wave]

o that was a clean run

[jolly junco]

she is c0 with favonius

[neon wave]

Nice

[opal surge]

[strange scarab]

can you save everyone on the quest

[opal surge]

Nice run

[jolly junco]

The furina is c3 though

[opal surge]

Yeah I figured

[strange scarab]

im trying to decide between ||saving the doctor or the saurian||

[neon wave]

don't think so
You can't go everywhere

[strange scarab]

Please this is a very big decision for me

[cobalt sigil]

RIP Kazuha, he's getting kicked off the team

[strange scarab]

i dont want to permanently lose a single npc from this

[cobalt sigil]

You don't lose main characters

Story Chars have plot armor

[neon wave]

idk I just winged it

[cobalt sigil]

The saurians don't

[lyric cargo]

me, who skipped dialogues and didn't realize there was a choice

[strange scarab]

fuuuuckkkk

[cobalt sigil]

||Any playable character, Mauvuika and the Captain can't be killed in the war||

[strange scarab]

i dont care about the playable looking ones

im talking about the generic npcs

[cobalt sigil]

Save the saurians

That quest ripped my damn heart out

[dusty cape]

[neon wave]

[cursive locust]

why?

[neon harness]

Ynot

[fading holly]

this or that

[haughty lotus]

The one with a hydro goblet

[scarlet stag]

is anybody able to help me with this bc i feel like im gonna lose my mind

[haughty lotus]

The first one just has more of every stat, are you just missing an artifact on the second

[scarlet stag]

i also cant get into my teapot until its done 😭

[haughty lotus]

[lyric cargo]

isn't that the one where each torch you light toggles the two that are opposite to it?

I'd sketch it out on a piece of paper, if you're already started to make changes

[fading holly]

nope

[scarlet stag]

it didnt work 😭

[haughty lotus]

Did you start with all of them turned off

[scarlet stag]

no ive been doing this for so long

[fading holly]

this is the 2nd one

this is 1st

[opal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[fading holly]

oops

[opal surge]

but unironically

[fading holly]

ok now THIS is the actual 1st one

[haughty lotus]

Attack is a dead stat on her

[opal surge]

[haughty lotus]

Check the build guide in the pins

[violet mantle]

What teams are there out of my unfortunate selection? (I understand the levels are low, i just dont know who to level yet ngl..)

[scarlet stag]

am i done for if i've been lighting them up in a random order 😭

[haughty lotus]

Leaving and coming back or reopening the game probably resets it

[scarlet stag]

i started this quest yesterday and nothing reset 🥲

[quaint fern]

Just try doing this

[haughty lotus]

Xilonen nahida xingqiu Bennett and maybe xiangling are characters you will use in a lot of teams so they’re good investments

For now you can use ganyu Bennett xiangling Xilonen and nahida xingqiu kuki beidou/flex

kuki is on next banner so you might want to try and get her if your pity is low, xingqiu constellations are also really good

[scarlet stag]

like sketch out the changes ive made?

I GOT IT

[violet mantle]

..is there anything other than Ganyu? Otherwise thank u 🙏

[haughty lotus]

You can do wanderer faruzan Bennett flex but I don’t recommend it

[violet mantle]

I see

[strong shale]

I think I maybe asked before but how do I solve the launcher just not opening for like 10 minutes after closing genshin? It only happens with genshin, no other hoyo game, and during that time it takes a lot of memory up in the background

[lyric cargo]

I haven't heard of this issue, but to solve the immediate problem likely just restart the computer

then, I'd try opening genshin without the launcher in case that bypasses the issue

you're looking for something like C:\Program Files\Genshin Impact\Genshin Impact game\GenshinImpact.exe
you can open the game without going through the launcher every time

you can create a shortcut to open it directly each time

[strong shale]

Yeah that's what I've done usually. I cycle games a lot so it's really annoying having 40% of memory space taken up for no reason

[strong shale]

Thanks

It always gets solved after updating but then gradually it just comes back again

[crude wharf]

i need help >_<

[lyric cargo]

What do you need help with?

(there seem to be a lot of people asking for help without specifying with what, today )

[stable coral]

@lyric cargo Yo bro

Can u help me with something plz

[crude wharf]

i need help with abyss priority and ranting 😭

are u able to

[stable coral]

Plz check the #💬gimshim-chat

[lyric cargo]

best to repost here, anyone who sees it later here won't know what you asked

[lyric cargo]

I installed genshin after a long time and it’s asking me to log in
But I forgot my username, what do I do😭
check your email address, I guess. Are there any mails from hoyoverse?

[stable coral]

Lemme see

[lyric cargo]

there's also the question of how you logged in (log in via google, via email and password, via playstation network)

I don't think genshin normally uses a username to log in, it's always email + password?

[stable coral]

They didn’t

It isn’t showing me the google option

[lyric cargo]

you can post a screenshot of your character list for team suggestions
go to all characters here to take it:
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html
is this for floor 12?

[crude wharf]

yes

can i just type them out?

[stable coral]

Wait 1 min

[crude wharf]

i have eula destina ganyu nahida yelan bennet xilonen keqing (shes trash), xiangling (level 70 trash)

thats all

[lyric cargo]

weird, it looks like this for me:

what platform is that?

[lyric cargo]

not really as helpful, I can't easily visualize it from the names
someone will probably suggest teams anyway

[barren linden]

You can use the email address as the ID.

[opal surge]

you have only 9 characters? also who is destina xd

[crude wharf]

i have more but theyre all level - sorry destina is diona

[violet mantle]

From what I've noticed. This is counted separately

A Google bind is different from a Gmail bind, which I find absolutely absurd

But, I'm not sure if maybe that's just my phone tweaking but it always starts a new account if I put my Gmail in the username section

I have to login via the Google button

[crude wharf]

any suggestions?

[violet mantle]

(It confuses me everytime I reinstall cause I keep thinking I've lost my account but then it's like I'm just using the wrong log in option)

[opal surge]

i cannot make 2 teams that will clear out of these characters and Im not interested in guessing which other characters you have

[barren linden]

Mmmmmh, can't you create a hoyoverse account, synchronize it with your Gmail account, and log in via hoyoverse instead?

[violet mantle]

Take a screenshot of all your characters?

[stable coral]

That wasn’t working

[opal surge]

you might be entering a different gmail? I'm using a gmail to log in and I have no issues

[violet mantle]

No.. it's the same one

[stable coral]

I clicked the last one

[crude wharf]

those are literally the only characters with investment

i dont have any mora to build anything new

[violet mantle]

well.. you can .. get more mora

[stable coral]

And it let me in, now it’s downloading let’s see what happens after the download is complete

[opal surge]

punctuation and everything is the same? remember that [e-mail] and [e-mail] will be 2 different hoyoverse accounts, whilst both leading to the same gmail

[violet mantle]

Mora is easy to get plus it's best to invest in more characters

[violet mantle]

If it's downloading more I think that means you've logged into an account past the tutorial? But I'm not sure

[violet mantle]

yeahyeah

[crude wharf]

resin doesnt recharge that quickly

[stable coral]

This is what’s happening

[violet mantle]

Yeah seems like you're on the right track

[stable coral]

Thank god

[violet mantle]

Quests, events, BP, leylines, bosses, domains, commissions, exploring

[stable coral]

It’s just I don’t wanna re start the game again, coz that glider quest sucks man😭

[opal surge]

the glider quest was nerfed

[stable coral]

I was at AR 45 ig

[stable coral]

It was really hard for me

[opal surge]

(i made fun of it getting nerfed, but I guess it was an issue after all )

[violet mantle]

nerfed?

[barren linden]

Eula is such an elegant woman.

[crude wharf]

so can you guys help now

[stable coral]

Btw any new things happened in genshin? I dropped this game a year ago

[violet mantle]

Uhhmm, Natlan? Fontaine?

[quaint fern]

erm

[barren linden]

I imagine Yuuki is the player that's looking to login?

[neon harness]

Ermexplode

[violet mantle]

Ermmm

[stable coral]

New characters?

[opal surge]

nahida yelan xq kuki | ganyu diona/xilonen bennet xiangling

[violet mantle]

Yeah there's a few I can't name them off of the top of my head though

[quaint fern]

does ios have google login?

the one on the very right of their screenshot looks like (pardon me if this is wrong bc I havent used apple phone in years, looks like game center??)

is game center still even a thing?

[crude wharf]

i itried those teams they didnt work, the nahida yelan one is wierd and ganyu cant deal with the low gravity boss thing

[violet mantle]

Yeah that's game center

[neon harness]

A lot more

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters_by_Release_Date

[quaint fern]

what do you mean hyperbloom is weird

hyperbloom is the most braindead team to play (okay nvm that's actually nilou bloom but I digress)

[opal surge]

you dont have a leveled kuki so I doubt you tried the first one

[crude wharf]

shes level 40

[opal surge]

for the gravity boss you need to plunge to break the shield

[crude wharf]

why does it have like 3 million hp tho

[stable coral]

Damn xilonlen looks smashable

[crude wharf]

i tried eula and the burst did like no dmg

[violet mantle]

That's. Wild

[crude wharf]

even with c1 and crown

[neon harness]

#cafe-shrine-refuge

[opal surge]

its somewhat normal for bosses to have adjacent to 3mil hp nowadays i suppose

chamber 3 boss has more than 3 mil

[quaint fern]

go glaze somewhere else vro

[crude wharf]

3m hp and it has a sheild thats very hard to beat

do i use skyward pride on eula or snowtombed star silver?

[quaint fern]

pride

also keep in mind that mechanical enemies tend to have pretty high physical res

and eula's dmg is backloaded, idk if the vulnerable phase is even that long

[crude wharf]

oh

[stable coral]

Bro ur username says otherwise 😂

[crude wharf]

should i swap to cyro eula for bigger hits?

[quaint fern]

one does not simply play cryo eula

[neon harness]

😌 hypabom Eula

[quaint fern]

true

[dusty cape]

[quaint fern]

but they don't have kuki leveled 😔

[barren linden]

Dunno, I like my Eula.

But she's C2.

And has her sig.

[crude wharf]

i try new ganyu team, xilonen ganyu bennet and nahida it does very high dmg

[barren linden]

Ganyu hits hard, but she's boring~

At least in my opinion.

[crude wharf]

i just want to clear :<

[barren linden]

I dun even know what's abyss priority xD

[opal surge]

@quaint fern thoughts?

[crude wharf]

i was pulling for xilonen wepaon

and i got chioriswhat do i do with it

[barren linden]

Keep.

And keep pulling if you have the crystals for it.

Weapon banner has been reworked to work like the exclusive banners.

[crude wharf]

who do i give it to

i have like no good sword characters and im not dps xilo

[barren linden]

I don't know. What's its ability, and secondary stat?

[opal surge]

you can give it to keqing

its her second best in slot when shes played with a geo and still pretty good if not

[crude wharf]

which geo would i play her with :<

keqing kinda sucks ngl

[opal surge]

with xilonen

keqing is on paper the highest DPS main dps that you own

you can play keqing fischl nahida xilo

[barren linden]

The highest dps he's got is Ganyu.

Keqing doesn't even come close.

Especially without aggravate.

But we'd need to see the gear.

[crude wharf]

i dont have fischl

my keqing suck low talents no set

[opal surge]

im too lazy to actually sheet it myself

[crude wharf]

i think my highest dps is yelan

[opal surge]

but rest assured that on paper, assuming equal gear keqing teams are outperforming ganyu teams

[crude wharf]

my ganyu is high investment crowned with r2 amos and she cant even do enough dmg

[opal surge]

wait this is c2 xilonen

let me fix it

[barren linden]

Perhaps I'm willing to believe, assuming both characters are allowed to deal their maximum output.

Don't think Wiz has a shield user that he can use. Or perhaps Xilonen gives some sort of support? I'll admit I didn't look into it much.

Keqing does lots of dmg, if she isn't interrupted in some way or another.
Ganyu is safe, and ranged.

[opal surge]

[barren linden]

And she has a taunt too~

[crude wharf]

can ganyu dish out 3m 😭

[barren linden]

But, Keqing is cute.
And she is very mobile too.

I'm considering gearing up with an aggravate team in abyss.

[barren linden]

3m being ?
3000, or 3 millions?

[lavish arch]

hello. does bennet's burst's damage bonus scale with his attack or hp?

[barren linden]

Attack.

[opal surge]

it scales with his base attack

[barren linden]

But base, meaning only from weapon.

[quaint fern]

she's pretty

[opal surge]

wait ganyu has a 64k dps team

[lavish arch]

oh ok ok thank!

[opal surge]

with emilie

does it actually work ingame @quaint fern (ganyu emilie bennet xiangling)

[crude wharf]

3million

[quaint fern]

idk I don't have emilie

probably works fine tho, just no defensive options

you have XL so you don't really need to worry about pyro application

my own gcsim config hits like 72k dps tho
https://gcsim.app/sh/FGDHtR9LnJtc

[opal surge]

ok but thats a bit away from standard assumptions

[quaint fern]

okay ja

I think I was using this? don't really remember

imagine if I had c4

[opal surge]

c6 soon surely

[quaint fern]

it's such a shame that c2-5 does nothing for melt

otherwise I wouldn't be stuck at c1 for this long

furina pushed me back towards freeze and honestly the freeze team is really nice to play

[crude wharf]

id play freeze if it worked on bosses

[quaint fern]

I never checked how this works, is it literally just a 1.25 multiplier to your whole dmg?

and to the whole team?

[crude wharf]

it ruins melts

[opal surge]

im gonna guess its damage%

like mona

[quaint fern]

😔 yeah looks like dmg%

[opal surge]

"increased DMG taken" doesnt exist as seperate multiplier as far as Im aware

[quaint fern]

only got a 5k increase in dps

[crude wharf]

they should revamp old characters constellations

[quaint fern]

yeah but they never will bc 💰

there's no incentive to balance older characters

even though older characters need con revamps the most, 1.x cons were pretty bad

[violet mantle]

still waiting till we can turn off and on constellations..

[opal surge]

alternatively they could make new cons not do 300% of c0 damage at c6

[violet mantle]

I will c6 Bennett but it'd be nice to use him for other teams still

[crude wharf]

newer cons do more then just add dmg

like they add dmg but its not just like this does 2x dmg

[haughty lotus]

Doesn’t mess up any real teams

[crude wharf]

wdym real teams..

[haughty lotus]

Any teams people would recommend

There are meme teams ig it ruins but there’s also meme teams it enables

[violet mantle]

my favourite team for Bennett is sorta meme

c6 Bennett, Razor, xingqiu and dendro traveler

razor gets his time to shine and it's fun

maybe xingqiu would be yelan? But I don't really know how yelan works and I don't have her

I don't have c6 benny anymore though so that team is on hold right now (along with the lack of razor)

[haughty lotus]

Razor hyperburgeon 😌

Just replace traveller with nahida

[violet mantle]

does nahehe have more dendro app?

I'm assuming so but idrk I stopped paying attention after sumeru

I will keep that in mind and build my nahehe for future chaos thank u

[crude wharf]

hi

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/sparkle-hanabi-hanabi-hsr-sparkle-hsr-sparkle-vrchat-gif-16606118036841476619

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Forgefire's_Blessing/2024-10-09

there's also this
https://paimon.moe/timeline

(it seems they didn't add the current events, but usually it gives a good overview)

[narrow folio]

Still not C6

[unique stream]

dps layla build and team comp recommendations?

idk if i want her phys or not

[quaint fern]

Smh they don't rerun her

Hoyo hates cryo fr

[sage sail]

used genshin optimiser and now my hu tao is using 2pc 2pc instead of the 4pc cw i spent months farming :(

not even using my mh pieces 💀

[quaint fern]

Did you turn on the conditionals?

[sage sail]

yeah

wait u mean the requirement things?

[quaint fern]

Give me a bit

[sage sail]

hu tao doesn't rlly need ER so i figured i didn't need to

i added the team buffs and everything, yes

and her skill and ssos buff after 1 hit

so assuming it's a boss fight, my best build is 2pc cw 2pc wanderer

im not sure if it takes into account that mh will have full stacks

bc of furina

bc on akasha it said i had #170 hu tao furina comp with 4pc MH but that had benny instead of jean idk

[unkempt willow]

can someone explain this to me as if im 5 years old

i was trying to get her c2 but ig i'll have to settle for c1, dunno what it means tho

[sage sail]

skill duration is increased, in natlan her skill drains less of the red bar above ur health bar after the original duration is over, after u get her buffs ur characters are less likely to get knocked around

[sage sail]

uh. is that how u set it so mh is active?

[quaint fern]

yeah and crim

[unkempt willow]

i like that, my mualani is fragile and gets flung around a bit w/o a shield so thats good

[unkempt willow]

thank youuuu :)

[quaint fern]

you need to give tao one crim stack and then three stacks of MH

[quaint fern]

you can also use this to force a certain set bonus i.e. vv/noblesse/hero

[sage sail]

oh so my mh build is better after all

[unkempt willow]

what is this ?

[quaint fern]

There should be a floating thing nearby

You should be able to revive it with dendro and then you should stun it when it's nearby that with electro iirc

[unkempt willow]

nope

not one of those things

its got a leaf shape ?

[quaint fern]

Just check interactive map

Might be an aranana quest thing?

If you have that lyre try equipping it

If it's not then I got no clue, consult the interactive map

[unkempt willow]

lol its currently equipped

found it ! odd it doesnt have its own category tho

is the direction im going with support xilonen good ?

[feral reef]

How much def i need for xilo sig?

[dusty cape]

3.2k iirc

[wind bolt]

3.2k

[lyric portal]

Which is better for permafrost with Ayaka, sucrose c5 or jean c4

[quaint fern]

Sucrose has grouping, use her

[cursive locust]

I just wanted to know is mulani,nahida,xiangling and xilo a good team?

[jolly junco]

mualani, xiangling, xilonen, +1 is. nahida is not good in this team though because she will make it difficult to crystallise hydro from the second rotation onwards

kazuha or sucrose are strong last slots, but using them means you need to skip xilonen's burst unless you open the chamber with it. candace/yelan/zhongli are also good if you want something a bit easier to play

just one of them to be clear

pre-c6 candace that is

[river parcel]

Okay, for the archon quest... Around which part should i stop before so i dont activate the timer for act 4?

I want to do some part of the archon quest today but not the ||abyss war where choices matter and theres a death timer|| part because i want to do that tomorrow since i dont have much time to do it all in one go today.

Will there be a pop up like this before that section starts, telling me that the next section is going to be long?

Or is it just going to randomly throw me in?

[quaint fern]

this but it shouldn't really matter

idt it affects the outcome anyways

[river parcel]

Shoot okay

[quaint fern]

i got a scene spoiled for me bc I was on youtube :/

who uploads massive story spoilers on the first week as the thumbnail + title???

not cool man

[river parcel]

A lot of people do for some reason. I see it all the time for genshin

Its best to avoid yt when a patch drops bc of it

[quaint fern]

tbh I just sped through this AQ bc I needed to do xilo quest

[river parcel]

||i heard there is some choices where you can actually do both instead of just 1 if youre fast enough. (Not all of them.) But it's not confirmed/tested but some people have said they seen it happen on some streams.||

[river parcel]

Yeah I need to do the tribal quest too but I'm not gonna skip dialogue. Im a story player

Do you know if it starts right at Act 4?

Cuz i could just stop after doing act 3 today

If thats the case

[strange scarab]

you need to finish act 4 to do her tribal chronicle

[river parcel]

Yes im aware

But i am not going to do Act 3 and Act 4 on the same day

[cursive locust]

ya even I had to do it in 2 days and im a no life

[river parcel]

But i need to know if the ||death timer|| doesnt start immediately after Act 3 or not

[strange scarab]

the death timer doesnt go up until you complete certain missions anyways

[quaint fern]

lowkey was falling asleep in the ||war battles LOL|| when I was doing it

[cursive locust]

I dont think it does but not sure

[quaint fern]

i swear act three felt super long

[strange scarab]

it doesnt

[cursive locust]

REAL

[strange scarab]

the war starts somewhere midway

[cursive locust]

ya

[quaint fern]

I did the first two major quests and was like "surely it's over now" and then the last part was basically as long as the first two

[river parcel]

Okay so there are some quests i need to do before that part comes up in act4 ?

[strange scarab]

the first hour of the act 4 you focus on moron and a little bit history lore and this and that

[quaint fern]

let me check wiki

[cursive locust]

ya but act 4 is worth it

[river parcel]

Atm I basically just need to know if starts immediately after act 3 or not

[cursive locust]

no it happens awhile after

[river parcel]

Kk ty

[quaint fern]

I was not expecting act 4 tbh

[strange scarab]

i already gave you the answer please dont make this unnecessarily long

[river parcel]

I am just double checking. I dont want to regret a decision again

[quaint fern]

just stop when it asks you to go to sleep in act 4

[cursive locust]

same ||the bodies were unexpected||

[quaint fern]

this isn't spoiler right? just checking

I don't want to get bonked

[strange scarab]

the death timer doesnt even go up if youre just idling about anyways

[river parcel]

Has that been confirmed? Because ive heard otherwise

[cursive locust]

I dont get why people care so much about the npcs we dont have any emotional connection to them anyways

[strange scarab]

I wouldnt say that if i didnt actually played the thing last night till 12 pm

[river parcel]

Immersion

[cursive locust]

u can leave and come back and ur progress will be saved (ik from experience)

[quaint fern]

the greater lord rukkhadevata was so peak

[river parcel]

Immersion.

Last night i spent 10 hrs just talking to all the npcs in the overworld that arent connected to a quest.

I used to do this back then with genshin first came out. Would always talk to NPCs but after awhile, i stopped doing that because I didnt have much time.

Normally i still wouldnt care but going around and just spending time talking to the NPCs in natlan, it kinda was a nice feeling really for me.

You dont really get this immersive social feeling irl cuz people are people and mostly keep to themselves. So i can only really do it in a fantasy setting like a video game. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lyric cargo]

note that that's the official interactive map

it has one comment on each item, so if that one doesn't help / show the right perspective, you're left with not much

if you google "genshin impact interactive map", you'll find the unofficial version. it has many comments from other users, usually one of them helps

[lyric cargo]

both xilo and her weapon have passives that increase def when triggered

I saw a video saying if you include those, the actual amount needed is
2889 def at lvl 80/90
2865 def at lvl 90/90

[lyric cargo]

you shouldn't need triple def%, can use either an ER sands (if needed), or a healing bonus circlet

[feral reef]

epic

[pulsar jasper]

I have c2 Chiori (also with her weapon), need a team for her.

[cedar flint]

well she will work with any geo team

[river parcel]

is dps noelle a thing cuz they can just do noelle, chiori, gorou, sup flex

[cursive locust]

would nahida mulani xiangling and xilo work? ik nahida makes it hard to crytalise but is there any fixes?

[haughty lotus]

#📌gimshim-help message

[lyric cargo]

Noelle on her own is kinda mid

You can use her if she's c6, sure, but she's not going to outperform the average 5★ dps

Where she shines, is Furina teams. Noelle heals while dealing damage, enabling Furina.

But many teams want Furina. There's an opportunity cost there. What's your team on the other side, that can go without her?

[feral reef]

thanks godsicles

[haughty lotus]

Don’t mention it

[feral reef]

i got xilonen sig

so sig-ma

[haughty lotus]

Nice

[feral reef]

wow isaw that

[sour birch]

should i go over soft and risk getting chiori just to try for candace cons

[sour birch]

noelle yunjin furina bennett 🔥

[lyric cargo]

who is this Yunjin character?

[sour birch]

wait xilonen also drops geo res right?

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[sour birch]

so noelle xilonen furina bennett

would kinda slap

[strange scarab]

[lyric cargo]

I think it's usually double hydro

[quaint fern]

^

[lyric cargo]

both Furina and Yelan befitting from resonance, and buffing Noelle

[lyric cargo]

not sure how this compares

[quaint fern]

• noelle has no constructs so -1 tomato 😔

[lyric cargo]

I've seen Garou as the last slot

[quaint fern]

probably better than double hydro, I'd suspect, but it steals bennett from elsewhere

• bennett doesn't buff rina so

probably trades rina dmg for noelle dmg

idk which would be better tbh

[rugged sparrow]

the guy has c2 Chiori though

[lyric cargo]

I wonder how these Noelle teams do this abyss, second side

mine is c6, but not built and I don't have a great weapon for her. I guess you can run fav to lower ER req for the rest

[quaint fern]

oh true

[quaint fern]

the balls have geo res don't they?

[rugged sparrow]

they do iirc

[lyric cargo]

yeah, you'd need Furina Yelan to handle that

[sour birch]

i just tried noelle xilonen furina yunjin and it's kinda crazy

i havent done abyss yet i just did 11

im boutta do 12

but im hitting cool 60k with no cards

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't actually focus on geo dmg for the team here

but shield + claymore sounds good for 12-2-2 specifically

[sour birch]

100k shield bursting

boutta run this wish me luck

[lyric cargo]

got her enka card?

[quaint fern]

triple geo is probably a bit much, no?

[sour birch]

look me up fr 614777624 akasha

[lyric cargo]

oh, you have redhorn

[quaint fern]

they farmed husk

[lyric cargo]

sad circlet

actually that's 5 substats, it's okay

[river parcel]

@pulsar jasper

[rugged sparrow]

Xilonen doesn't even work in triple geo unless c2

so unless they have c2 Xilo...

[lyric cargo]

oh, right

I saw that image and wasn't parsing it

[rugged sparrow]

glorified 4p Cinder holder

[lyric cargo]

insert surprised Kachina face

[sour birch]

oopsies

[keen willow]

Chat is this true

[quaint fern]

tbh I totally forgot that her non-PHEC mode worked like that

man I'm washed

[lyric cargo]

What would y'all recommend a new player to do,
if they want to follow the meta and clear abyss as fast as possible?

surely, team 1 would be Neuvilette Furina

probably growing to include Xilonen + Kazuha when available

after that, I'm not sure what team 2 should be.
the fastest second team that doesn't include those 4 units would probably still be Nahida + Xq + Kuki, given the upcoming banner?

I feel like Nahida isn't meta now, but in terms of a good team 2 they can get together quickly, what else is there?

[keen willow]

Arlecchino

[jolly junco]

you have to factor in the pulls required too along with waiting out reruns

cuz getting a full limited 5* team on the other side will probably take longer than the time it takes to put together a lower cost team and just 36* using that

the next banner already covers one half with nahida, xingqiu, kuki

and leaves bennett and xiangling for the other side

[quaint fern]

neuvi still has some pretty decent 4* support teams tho

but yeah bennett xiangling is the core for so many different dpses

[jolly junco]

he doesnt have that many good 4* synergies

there's what like xiangling for vaporise

which also takes xiangling from the other side

some kind of 4* only electro-charged team is cope

excluding neuv of course

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I was using Neuv Furi Kaz before
and honestly it felt like there was no truly great option for the last slot before Xilonen. (I didn't have Zhongli. Maybe I could've built Layla.)

it was just that those 3 chars already cleared well enough that I felt comfortable recommending it

[quaint fern]

is sayu cope for neuvi

it's not like any of the other anemo 4*s offer anything useful for him

[lyric cargo]

I sometimes brought Beidou, bursting on her only for the waves where Neuv needed a bit of help
sometimes a healer

[jolly junco]

yes

[lyric cargo]

I believe the person I'm asking for already has Kaz

[opal surge]

I think if it's about clearing as fast as possible you might want to consider splitting neuv and furina

[quaint fern]

so you aren't asking hypothetically if you were to make a new account

[opal surge]

If I understood it correctly and they have both

[quaint fern]

for sure, try furinational?

[lyric cargo]

I wanted to ask in general, but there was also a situation that lead to me asking

[lyric cargo]

they have neither, though they're both units I'd recommend they pick up

[quaint fern]

i'd probably wait to see what mauvika does

she'll likely control the natlan meta?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's fair

they were asking me whether I'd go for Nahida or save for Neuv / anything that comes after

[quaint fern]

well nahida isn't totally necessary for hyperbloom

[wary vessel]

is nahida weapon good on mualani?
planning on pulling homa but if i fail ill just give the nahida weapon to mualani, given if it is good on her.

[lyric cargo]

I said I'd probably pull to soft pity on Nahida because the 4-stars elevate the banner (giving you a full 3 person core right away)
but if they reach soft pity without getting her early and it's now just about Nahida vs saving, I might save

[jolly junco]

it's the third best option after her signature and high refine sac jade

[wary vessel]

ooh nice. ok tyty.

[quaint fern]

wait are the 4*s already out

[opal surge]

Yeah

[quaint fern]

wtf is this banner

[opal surge]

Uncle hoyo showed them on the weekend

[quaint fern]

what is this 4* lineup after dori and candace :icant:

[opal surge]

You could technically try and pull the hyperbloom core and hope to get high cons sethos on the way

And n2walk through abyss on the other half

[quaint fern]

how does this have better 4* lineup than sigewinne banner

[lyric cargo]

it's the only way they can sell Nahida when she hasn't gotten any upgrades since Clorinde

[river parcel]

Holy shot

It starts in act 3 not act4

Edit: okay, so it did not start in act 3. there is a bed scene in act 3, it's safe to do. if it's going to sleep in the inn in act 4, do not do that one

Im so glad someone told me it was the bed part

[lyric cargo]

4 liner with 3 useful stats, surely it won't roll all into def% and EM

my first piece to roll completely into crit, after > 2 years of genshin

(1/2)^5 = 1/32 chance every time you get a double crit 4-liner
you'd think it would've happened sooner

[forest venture]

no

[sage sail]

well ig u have a good piece for any characters that have an on set goblet

[storm urchin]

what are the strongest raiden teams

[opal surge]

Hyperbloom, rational raiden overload

[lyric cargo]

eh, 7 useful subs / 600% roll value
if the def% and EM isn't useful, it's not actually a great off-piece imo

I put it on Xilonen for now. maybe Kachina or someone who uses scroll for the 12% (I expect that to get rarer as we get more scroll holders)

[sage sail]

maybe mavuika will want it :/

[onyx grove]

surely that c2 r1 Raiden best team won't be hyperbloom... right?

[opal surge]

It's not

Hyperblooms DPS isn't actually very high in the grand scheme of things

[lyric cargo]

hyperbloom is like
good off-field damage
more than a vaping Xiangling I guess, as it hits more frequently

but you still need the other team members to deal damage to clear abyss in time for 3 stars

[zinc shoal]

is archaic petra better for zhongli than tenecity?

i've read the 4pc bonus on archaic and 35% dmg is alot more comparing to tenecity atk% which is 20

[opal surge]

It depends ™️

[zinc shoal]

lol true

[opal surge]

Petra is annoying to play around, only works with phec and has lower uptime

[zinc shoal]

phec?

[opal surge]

Totm bricks when zhongli pillar bricks

[lyric cargo]

tenacity increases shield strength

you could argue he doesn't need it, since his shield is so strong to begin with

petra can be a bit clunky I heard, since you need to actually pick up the shard with the char that has petra equipped

[opal surge]

Pyro hydro electro cryo

[zinc shoal]

ah

[opal surge]

Petra is on paper a very good set

[zinc shoal]

are there any other characters in geo that benefits from archaic aswell?

[opal surge]

In practice it's annoying

Almost every phec based team realistically plays Petra on one character as long as they run xilonen

If max on paper DPS is your goal

This results in stuff like Petra yelan, Bennet, nahida etc

Whether you want to do that is another question

[zinc shoal]

I don't much characters so unfortunately I'll just scratch the idea

thank you for responding though!

[lyric cargo]

some outside geo, but it's always a bit cope

like Xilonen → Kazuha → petra Xiangling picking up the shard

but are you going to farm it for Xl when Mawuika might replace her soon?

[zinc shoal]

i lost to diluc in xilonen's banner so noi good

im practicallly guaranteed and 60/40 in 50/50 lol

[lyric cargo]

you could run like c6 Noelle + Furina Yelan
Noelle can run petra to further buff the hydro chars
but eh

[zinc shoal]

im lowkey weak in rotations and like i said i have limited characters lol i cant do alot much