📌gimshim-help

[hasty shell]

just get nahida itll solve all my problems

bc i just need dmg

[gaunt kettle]

what is the optimal ER for raiden with engulfing lightning

[haughty lotus]

Close to 270

[solid bear]

damn the only one I knew who are they is you

where the hell did all the people go? Was there a third wave?

[strange scarab]

[haughty lotus]

Scroll up

[dusty cape]

taking a nap

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus

[strange scarab]

wait i just realized what your name stands for

deona kooki nahida xingqiu maulani raizor wife?

[neon harness]

Naw :screm:

My eyes hurt

[haughty lotus]

Hi

[feral reef]

smh

dehya kokomi navia xilonen mavuika raiden

[strange scarab]

im getting them right gg

oh

[feral reef]

no way u spelt mualani wrong to fit ur woke agenda

[strange scarab]

come up with a better name bro

[feral reef]

ok vro

[lyric portal]

What could I use for the new abyss

[forest venture]

i can guarantee itto team on 2nd half, then run cyno hyperbloom or neuvi hyper + fischl on 1st half

[dusty cape]

@haughty lotus the Ma has been revealed

[haughty lotus]

Finally

[feral reef]

how did u not know

its obvious

[haughty lotus]

Nah

[feral reef]

those who know _

[dusty cape]

not me

[haughty lotus]

🔥

[elder bluff]

I thought it was Mao Xiangling

[lyric portal]

What’s a good cyno hyperbloom?

[feral reef]

• balkan rage +

[haughty lotus]

Pardon?

[forest venture]

fischl, nahida, xq. but i think i prefer neuvi team more as those consecrated beasts have pyro and electro res

[wide ice]

Guys is Xilonen goated even with Albedo's yellow sword?

[lyric portal]

Also final question, but how could I play xilonen and itto on the same team

[forest venture]

c2 for mono geo, otherwise find 2 non-geo units

[wide ice]

I wanted to save for someone else but I also love Xilonen :(

[haughty lotus]

Something like itto xilo Bennett xiangling

[haughty lotus]

Albedo sword is weak on her. She is goated on favonius tho

[lyric portal]

I’m f2p 🦭

[wide ice]

Ohh okay thanks!

[forest venture]

yea i said just find non-geo ppl

[lyric portal]

Then what could I use for neuvi

I been using neuvi raiden nahida and yae but I don’t think that’s right

[lyric cargo]

hmm, you seem to be pulling way too many on-fielders and not enough supports

[feral forge]

whats the ideal er for xilo in neuvi team (neuvi kazu furina xilo) im currently runnin xilo on 131 er n she seems to hv her burst back every rotation but ppl be sayin its too low

[lyric cargo]

Furina, Xilonen, Kazuha is his best team now

[lyric portal]

That’s why I pulled nahida and xilonen

Next is zhongli 🦭

[rugged sparrow]

if you got her burst every rot then it doesn't matter what ppl say
Just crosscheck with ERC too if you're unsure

[lyric cargo]

maybe you could try Xilonen + Jean

but the problem is, without Furina there's no off-field hydro app

you can apply hydro with Neuv, go into Xilonen, go back into Neuv to apply hydro again, then swirl with Jean

[lyric portal]

Kokomi 🦭

[lyric cargo]

make sure to guarantee Furina, imo

[lyric cargo]

right, kokomi as the last member would let you skip going back to Neuv to reapply

you don't really need her healing, since you have Xionen and Jean, but she does give off-field hydro

I guess you could use another anemo unit, but Sucrose's EM buff isn't useful here

[haughty lotus]

You don’t need the reaapply

The hydro is still there after xilo

[noble vale]

Should I switch to tenacity for Kokomi since is easy and done?

She has 0 artifacts

Forgot to mention in Ayaka freeze team

[feral forge]

btw where can i get erc

[rugged sparrow]

it's on pinned msg

@feral forge just go to the ERC one

[feral forge]

gotcha thnx

[rugged sparrow]

if you need help using it just ask around

[noble vale]

I need an advice when I want to build my team which characters do i have to focus on to farm/strongbox artifacts for them in order?

[neon harness]

whats the team

[haughty lotus]

#📌gimshim-help message

[noble vale]

Ayaka freeze team example

[haughty lotus]

Write it down vro

[feral forge]

m i doin this wrong?

[noble vale]

Do i really keep farming for Ayaka?

[neon harness]

up to u

[haughty lotus]

Up to you, what’s your goal in this game?

[noble vale]

My goal hmmm

[neon harness]

btwbtw bbg, guess who hit 3k notifs

[rugged sparrow]

I actually don't know Neuv's usual rotation length but Furina should be 1x Salon Member

idk what's that secondary type on Xilonen but it shouldn't be there

[haughty lotus]

Bbg

[neon harness]

its something like 28 secs no? dont quote me on that

[neon harness]

ya?

[rugged sparrow]

@jolly junco moshi moshi

help Neuv ERC pls

[haughty lotus]

its something like 28 secs no? - YunYun

[feral forge]

this better?

[noble vale]

Btw I don’t ever farm in blizzard domain I have been farming in emblem domain bc of Hu Tao team

[rugged sparrow]

Kazuha on FS?

[neon harness]

shelf, hard

[feral forge]

ye

[haughty lotus]

Bbg as in the bbg that got 3k notifs

[rugged sparrow]

ic

somehow doesn't feel right

I'm like almost sure that Neuv uses E at the start and feeds to Furina

[lyric cargo]

oh, the crystallize + time passing doesn't make it expire? hmm.

[rugged sparrow]

and Furina never catches her own particle

[noble vale]

I haven’t been playing genshin for a while so i couldn’t remember what i had to do lol

[rugged sparrow]

so you can adjust those two (Feed Particles to ally and Proportion of particles fed) accordingly

[neon harness]

Om

[jolly junco]

:blub:

[rugged sparrow]

[haughty lotus]

Build the characters you like. From what I’ve seen you’ve played on and off for over a year and don’t look close to ready for abyss

[haughty lotus]

😟

[neon harness]

🤭

[haughty lotus]

Shelf imao

[neon harness]

imao

[feral forge]

so wat values they r to be at

[jolly junco]

the rotation length will be close to 30s if you use xilonen's burst, neuvillette does 2 skills and 50% are fed to furina

[rugged sparrow]

Furina's "feed particles to ally" should be "Don't know" right

and close to 100%

[feral forge]

2 skills? but im startin with neuvi eq

[jolly junco]

you just leave it as is, turret particles in ERC are distributed based on field time

[feral forge]

kazu tep

[rugged sparrow]

oh never knew that

[noble vale]

That is true bc I’ve been playing genshin for a year or 2 since early 2023, I’ve finished the prologue arc around December 2022 but for farming ig is 1 year

[jolly junco]

that is suboptimal though

[feral forge]

so 1 e at start?

[rugged sparrow]

starting with Neuv EQ means your balls would just run out no

[jolly junco]

yes

[rugged sparrow]

or like randomly running out cuz u cant prioritize which to pick up

[jolly junco]

not necessarily it just doesn't fit well for 4 charged attack rotations

which are higher DPS

[feral forge]

i c n wat wud be the ideal rotation then

[rugged sparrow]

ill fit 4 ca in u

[jolly junco]

neuvillette e>furina ed>xilonen en2q(can also skip the q)>kazuha tepq>neuv ca e ca q>(a second xilonen e n2 might be worth using here idk)kazuha tep>neuv ca ca

[feral forge]

gotcha n wats the er on xilo in this case

[neon harness]

show proof

[jolly junco]

you have the erc open

[feral forge]

ye

[jolly junco]

[feral forge]

hmm?

[forest venture]

[jolly junco]

why are you asking me when you can just see it on the sheet

[feral forge]

cuz this is wat it be showin

[jolly junco]

because you haven't updated it

[noble vale]

If I’m building Ayaka team do i have to farm blizzard domain for her then strong box tenacity, VV and nobless? I’ve been farming shime/emblem domain and strongboxing blizzard

[feral forge]

ok wat values to update

[noble vale]

Is what he told me a while back

[jolly junco]

I already said the rotation length and what to change in terms of skill feeding

[feral forge]

aah gotcha

[neon harness]

c

[forest venture]

yes!

[feral forge]

this wat is correct?

[jolly junco]

no

you put the clear time as 30s, not the rotation length

[rugged sparrow]

also the 50% of proportion of particles fed should be on Neuv's column

[feral forge]

now?

[jolly junco]

kazuha would also feed 50% of his particles to neuvillette and xilonen would feed 50% to kazuha if you use her skill a second time. there is also flat energy from cinder city and neuvillette's signature

[noble vale]

I see

[jolly junco]

you have a c1 r1 neuv or something you can dock the clear time down to 60s to be on the safe side

nothing should take more than 2 rotations, 1 will usually be enough per chamber half

[feral forge]

how da heck do ya remember that man das y ya apple

[jolly junco]

[feral forge]

gotcha

thnx apple n oxd

[jolly junco]

np

[violet cipher]

I 36 starred abyss but it was kinda hard cause I don't have that many built geo characters so I had to rely on plunge Hu Tao. I do have C6 Noelle but I haven't built her artifacts/talents that much - should I build her or would it not be worth it for taking care of the boss at the end of this cycle (the centaur)?

#📌gimshim-help message account info from here

[neon harness]

i see lvl 80 kachina, did you try a team with her

[elder bluff]

overload with arlecchino

[violet cipher]

No but my only natlan character was Mualani so I assumed it wouldn't work and I haven't built up her artifact set. I'll try that later.

[violet cipher]

no chevruse but ok.

[tepid finch]

hey is yanfei, xing, yelan and zhongli a good team?

or are there better character replacements

[neon harness]

what con is yanfei

[tepid finch]

6

[neon harness]

benny, furina/yelan, kazuha/sucrose

[tepid finch]

so it would be yanfei, bennet, furina and sucrose?

i also got venti?

[neon harness]

actually, maybe yelan over furina, idk if furinas hydro app is enough for yanfei

[neon harness]

sucrose is better

[tepid finch]

ohh okay could i use xing instead of yelan?

so it would be yanfei, benny, sucrose and xing

[neon harness]

yes

[tepid finch]

also do u mind if a ask another question for my other team

[neon harness]

you can, yelan is better but if shes needed in other teams, xingqiu is good

[tepid finch]

okay so i just wanted to ask if these two teams work good

so first is c5 keqing with c6 fischl, baizhu and venti

and the second one is c6 chongyun, c6 xiangling, shenhe and xainyun

[neon harness]

xiangling without benny means massive er issues, remove xianyun for benny, chongyun is a better burst dps than plunge imo

[neon harness]

its fine, rather use sucrose (em and ttds) or kazuha (dmg% and good agg swirl dmg, em at c2) over venti if they are availible

[tepid finch]

i cna use sucrose but i also have nahida

[neon harness]

nahida can be used over baizhu only if you dont need healing

[brittle cipher]

okay thank you!!

[timber spire]

does anyone know where the seelie is?

[lyric cargo]

google "genshin impact interactive map" to find the unofficial version with comments from many other users on each puzzle

(there's an official version, but it only shows a single comment on each. so if that one comment doesn't help.. better to use the unofficial map and having to scroll a bit)

[timber spire]

i see, thanks

[opal surge]

do my mora troubles end now

[neon wave]

no

i barely notice it tbh though I haven't been paying attention

[opal surge]

[neon wave]

[elder bluff]

if you can find a way to gain 150k per week, yes

[lyric cargo]

my mora has actually gone down a bit, from 30m to 27m

I feel like we were able to get a huge lead when we had weekly city reputation quests, but now they stop when all city reputation is capped

[opal surge]

I mean that effect shouldn't be noticeable already

It's week two of missing weekly rep/bounties right, but there was 1 mil compensation

Technically we're at a net positive still right?

[lyric cargo]

I think we've also been getting artifact exp instead of mora from Natlan city rep

but yeah, we should be around equal

it might be that I ascended more chars than usual, because of theater

[neon wave]

^same

[lyric cargo]

After Adventure Rank 60 is reached, each additional point of Adventure EXP gained is instead converted to Mora at a 1:10 ratio (10 Mora for each Adventure EXP point).

hmm, ar59 → ar60 takes 340125 exp

so in the time it took you to get that rank increase you'd now get 3.4m mora

actually a relevant increase, over time

certainly not something you'll notice from day to day, but eventually it'll be quite the pile

also, congratulations

[opal surge]

It's something

Tyty

[lyric cargo]

and if they plan to replace that income, it's actually a big win (less monotonous grinding)

[tame cedar]

How much er should xilonen have?

Mines at 166%

[lyric cargo]

ER always depends on the team

what weapon does she have?

afaik, her ER reqs are low because the 2pc Scroll effect gives 6 energy for each nightsoul burst, and her passive lets her trigger an additional NB

see this discussion

[strange scarab]

Who up farming codex rn

[unkempt river]

F12 teams? Those geo shilds are giving me such a headache. Should I keep trying with Raiden overload?

[lavish arch]

hello. in this hyperbloom team, nahida, raiden, xinqiu and barbara, i am going to have on field barbara for hydro application. what stats and sub stats should i focus on for barbara?

[strange scarab]

her usual healer build

[lavish arch]

ok thanks!

[opal surge]

neuvi Furina kazuha xilo and raiden ol should be the best options yeah be

[jolly junco]

either that or gaming, unless you think you have enough dps to ignore the shield with a team like neuv, furina, kazuha, xilonen

[unkempt river]

https://enka.network/u/UltimateMixing/3Bmru/10000073/2961479/

Dunnoh, I'll keep trying.

[opal surge]

Is there a specific chamber that's causing issues?

[jolly junco]

12:2 shouldn't be causing a problem

gotta be 12:3

the neuv team has close to 80% res shred I think you can just try neuv, furina, kazuha, xilonen for 12:3 2nd half and ignore the shield

[opal surge]

Maybe it's 12-1

[jolly junco]

uh, perhaps

[lyric cargo]

I wanna try Neuv second half now

this abyss was pretty awkward for me, took a bunch of retries to finish 12-2-2 with rational and have my bursts up

[opal surge]

I just did one arle/clorinde clear and dipped to play burnice

[jolly junco]

meta teams fr

nilou isnt great for chamber 1 but

2 and 3 are very fast

and clorinde with chevreuse is just fun

[opal surge]

Queen of hell

[unkempt river]

Well, yeah...

[unkempt river]

12-2 first half is super easy but that Enhacer Mek is such a pain

[jolly junco]

you know that you can jump and plunge for blunt damage from the gravity field it creates to break the shield?

[unkempt river]

2nd half Neuvi team? hmm

[unkempt river]

yuh ofc

I do that until there's a bit left

and then put all my buffs and burst up, by the time Raiden ults- the sheild is down

[jolly junco]

it's worth a shot anyway

[unkempt river]

I'll try, and first half?

[jolly junco]

you can try like alhaitham, nahida, xingqiu/yelan, kuki or raiden, bennett, xiangling, xingqiu/chevreuse

[unkempt river]

Haitham quickbloom or rational/raiden overload gotcha

[lyric cargo]

first attempt, no issues

Nahida Xq Kuki Yelan
Neuv Furina Xil Kaz

[unkempt river]

all three chambers?

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[unkempt river]

how were there no issues with the enhancer mek?

[lyric cargo]

(my Nahida is c2, but I had a good bit of time left over)

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen plunged until the shield broke, bursting for i-frames when she was about to get hit
then Kaz swirl, Furina burst, Neuv dps

[unkempt river]

How much does your Neuv hit for?

[lyric cargo]

around 50k per hit with Kaz and Xil buff

unbuffed, like 20k (?)

[unkempt river]

and the prateorian golem thingy?

[lyric cargo]

res shred made them vulnerable enough, iirc

I don't think I broke their shields

[unkempt river]

hmmm

[unkempt river]

which rotation for the two teams?

[lyric cargo]

Nahida Xq Kuki Yelan:
I do Nahida E, Xq Q N1, Kuki E N1, Yelan E Q, Xq E

after that I do a lot of quick swapping because I have fav on both Xq and Yelan

--

Neuv Furi Xil Kaz:
Neuv E, Furi E, Xil E N2, Kaz E P, Neuv CA E CA, Kaz E P, then back to Neuv

honestly I don't do them super cleanly sometimes

[unkempt river]

So you don't on feild Nahida?

[lyric cargo]

I on-field her a decent amount, but I still swap for fav procs frequently and to reuse kuki skill / etc

[lyric cargo]

Neuv E, Furi E, Xil E N2, Kaz E P, Neuv CA E CA, Kaz E P, then back to Neuv
turns out that's actually too fast for Neuv E to be back up, so I actually had to Neuv burst there (or use Kaz burst or Xil burst to get back to Neuv slightly later)

[haughty lotus]

Pog frina q

[lyric cargo]

oh yeah, I forgot to write in her burst (I use it after Kazuha)

[whole glade]

[craggy vapor]

Is Xilonens buff shared in co-op?

[opal surge]

Xilonen doesn't have a buff, but her artifact set should work as intended in coop, if that's what you mean

[lyric cargo]

When the Source Samples are active, nearby opponents' corresponding Elemental RES will decrease.

there is an effect on the character (glowing circle on the ground that moves with you), that indicates the effect is active

it behaves as a buff, in that it works in multi-wave (new enemies spawning in will have their res reduced)

[lyric cargo]

I guess you could check if allies have that glowing circle, but I'd assume no

[keen willow]

Is this abyss just easy

[craggy vapor]

I just mean the circle around her after her skill

[lyric cargo]

I'd say only if your second half team can easily break geo shields
(or maybe bring Xilonen + Kazuha, shred away the res, and ignore the shield, it seems)

[keen willow]

Or solo with zhongli

[lyric cargo]

yeah, zl breaks geo shields pretty well (don't solo though, he deals negative damage )

[keen willow]

I mean yea in a team

[lyric cargo]

ah ^^

I don't own him, so it was either bring Navia (who isn't built)
or bring non-geo teams

[keen willow]

Its just single target pretty boring

[lyric cargo]

yeah, single target is rarely the problem

positioning doesn't matter, grouping doesn't matter

just a raw dps check
(I guess the chamber 2 enemy actually kills you if you don't dodge and don't shield)

[keen willow]

Yea feels bad to not have zhongli

Imagine dodging and losing dps

[lyric cargo]

I might pull him next time

[keen willow]

He's a must pull true

Probably the strongest archon

[lyric cargo]

kinda want c2 Furina and c1 r1 Neuv.. I'll have to see what my budget allows

I always skipped him so far

[crude snow]

I would like the last 3 stars.
Team recs?

[neon harness]

Which chamber are u missing stars or is every chsmber 2/3

[lunar dagger]

Best method to get primos? I wanna be prepared incase I lose the 50/50 for knave

I've still got most of fontaine exploration to do and 30% more on chenyu vale

All the other nations are 20-40% explored

[opal surge]

Exploration and quests

[lunar dagger]

Oh wait natlan offering gives primos right

Welp I know what I'm hitting first

[haughty lotus]

Why is Michael on er sands

😞

Looks usable across the board. That ayaka is kinda ass tho

[crude snow]

Every chamber 2/3z

[haughty lotus]

👍

You don’t need much with fischl

[neon harness]

Arle xingqiu benny kazuha`

Zhongli Nahida Tighnari fischl, or any team with zhongli maybe

[neon harness]

Bbg u there

[wind bolt]

No

👎

[haughty lotus]

No
👎

[kindred garnet]

would xilonen be a good replacement for jean in my hu tao team?
currently, it’s c3 hu tao, c2 furina, c1 yelan and c1 jean

[haughty lotus]

Yes

[neon harness]

Good, mualani team pls

[haughty lotus]

Kazuha xilo instructors xiangling

[neon harness]

Bbg…. I dont got xilo

[haughty lotus]

🥶

Yikes

Use c5 candeez ig

[neon harness]

If i get xilo, is hp gob worth considering or nah

[haughty lotus]

I doubt it

[lethal tundra]

y'all is dendro traveler dori corin and barbara a good hyperbloom team

[haughty lotus]

Who is corin

🥦?

[lethal tundra]

collei 😄

[neon harness]

What happens if shes c6

[haughty lotus]

Pretty cope but ig you can use it if you don’t have many characters

[haughty lotus]

Inconsistency

😞

[lethal tundra]

i'm just created a new account and have literally no char 😭

[neon harness]

Awe man

[haughty lotus]

Who do you have

[neon harness]

Dies

[neon harness]

You

[haughty lotus]

Just get xilo, easy

[neon harness]

Just bench mualani easy

[haughty lotus]

Cope

Mualani > midvillette

[neon harness]

Guess who’s doing the same part of the archon quest for the 7th time

[neon harness]

Shelf, blocking u

[haughty lotus]

😸

[neon harness]

Ew

[haughty lotus]

What chapter are you on

[neon harness]

Idk what that means but im still stuck on the part where || you say goodbye to chasca and her sis and you need Citlali to view ororon’s memories||

[lethal tundra]

every current banner 4 star and Xiangling Lynette Yaoyao Xinyan Candace c4 Dorin c6 Collei c6 and a Xilonen

[haughty lotus]

Yeah you don’t have good options
Just use who you like for now

[haughty lotus]

I think that’s the last part I did

Please tell me chasca doesn’t show up again

[neon harness]

Crying sobbing I’m not getting those extra 500 promos

[lethal tundra]

at which level do we get the free 5 star again or is it ended

[haughty lotus]

It’s joever

[kindred garnet]

alright, ty

[neon harness]

Next anniversary same event

[noble vale]

I forget which main stats tenacity for kokomi in Ayaka freeze team, was it triple hp% or 2 then healing bonus? I think sub stats don’t matter as long she uses hp percentage

[neon harness]

Not again, stop reloading omg ]

[neon harness]

Hp/hp/hp or heal

[neon harness]

Kill me

[noble vale]

Got it

But the sub stats won’t matter to her?

Since I’ll just apply hydro skill

[neon harness]

You have got to be kidding me, not again

[neon harness]

Subs dont matter

Just skill bot

[haughty lotus]

Bbg… how…

[neon harness]

My hand hurts from skipping that much dialogue

[haughty lotus]

My deepest condolences for having to look at chasca for that long

[noble vale]

What if I get double DEF

[haughty lotus]

Subs dont matter (2)

[noble vale]

Got it

As long it has hp% on flower and feather sub stats

[neon harness]

I want to stop looking at ororon more 😭

[haughty lotus]

Subs dont matter (3)

[strange scarab]

gg

[haughty lotus]

🪣

[noble vale]

Bruh 💀

[strange scarab]

fruck

[haughty lotus]

Did you read it this time

[noble vale]

Yes I did

[neon harness]

U got first already right?

[strange scarab]

ifrit yes

[neon harness]

I fruit

[strange scarab]

iFraud

[neon harness]

Nothing g is typing out correctly with

[strange scarab]

its between blaze/silverash/thorns

[neon harness]

WTH

[strange scarab]

Hmmmm

[neon harness]

Om who dont u haVE

[haughty lotus]

Settle down

[strange scarab]

all of them except ifridge lol

[neon harness]

STOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPAHHAAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHHHHHHH

im actually gonna cry

[haughty lotus]

Why the vruck you playing xiangling in overworld

[frosty jetty]

Any recommendations to improve my Neuvi?

[haughty lotus]

C6

[neon harness]

Iirc thorns gonna be in shop soon, do if u dont get him there’s still a chance

[noble vale]

That pic

[neon harness]

Domain team

[strange scarab]

The official server told me to get ceobe and mostima but im afraid i might get ifrit dupe

[neon harness]

Get c6

[noble vale]

Anyway I farmed the blizzard domain today

[neon harness]

Stoooop sending me bACK HERE hsdfkjdshfjkdshdsjk

[haughty lotus]

🤢

[frosty jetty]

Anything that doesn't involve money?

[haughty lotus]

Cope goblet, also r5

[neon harness]

Ure ar c5, getting c6 is easy, just save smh

At*

[neon harness]

…. Guess who reloaded again

[haughty lotus]

Bbg

[neon harness]

One day

One day ill make it past this edition

Section*

|| I’ve seen enough of his memories , stappppp||

[frosty jetty]

hmm I guess

And besides cons?

[neon harness]

@haughty lotus I DID IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FINALLYY AHUDSKJHDJDHSJFHJKDFHJKHJHJHJ

[haughty lotus]

🥂

[neon harness]

No xilonen for me\

Crying sobbing dying

Bruh

Close to 75 pity when i got her

I think next time i lose ill get the double wish animation thing

Since i lost mualani and lose xilonen now

[haughty lotus]

😞

[sharp saddle]

i'll get u a welkin

[strange scarab]

Vroooo

maybe i should have gone for ceobe/mostima lmaooo

[frosty jetty]

Best Neuv Hyper carry team?

[haughty lotus]

furina kazuha xilonen

if your neuv is c0 you might want to use zhongli instead of xilo

[quaint fern]

You should get uncle

Uncle is like silverdaddy but better

[surreal birch]

what do you guys think, my friend asks me who is better as a c0 dps, raiden or ayaka?

[forest venture]

from the screen, to the ring, to the pen, to the king, where's my crown, that's my bling, always drama when i ring

(raiden)

[lunar dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-ayaka-tcg-genshin-genshin-impact-ayaka-kamisato-gif-17773340334972015572

[forest venture]

i know i still have my love for ayaka more than raiden, but i still wouldn't consider her a better c0 dps, raiden can either hyperbloom or hypercarry and deal decent damage

[neon harness]

||I appreciate it, its rly nice of you to offer, you don’t have to I’ll take it if u are actually offering tho ||

[neon harness]

Nah

I never used either of those

After getting the pink doggy and volcano castor

[spiral mantle]

how can i improve both?

[neon harness]

Never touched those 2

[neon harness]

Raiden

[forest venture]

mualani wants better sands, level 9 OR crowned skill, and 90/90. nahida's amazing

[neon harness]

You can keeping farming for crit subs on the em mains

[forest venture]

yea at this point i really wanted cryo to become strong again

[neon harness]

Make cryo good again om

[neon harness]

Use em buffs on mualani team idk

[spiral mantle]

should i try to get more cr cd for nahida

[forest venture]

if you're running hyperbloom with someone else who has higher em than nahida, then you can run crit rate/dmg build and less focus on em

[spiral mantle]

alr

for mualani burnvape is she ok rn

[neon harness]

Idk er req for nahida on that team but if 130 is enough, build is good

[spiral mantle]

oki

[wind bolt]

Dang thats insane

[haughty lotus]

Ayaka || when hoyo decides to let her have an abyss ||

[neon harness]

🤭

[haughty lotus]

🪣

[neon harness]

Wot?

???

Shelf

[quaint fern]

vro when did you c6 her

[spiral mantle]

should i use amber or lost prayer for neuvi (hp gob)

[lyric cargo]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds
this ranks them similarly, so to me it depends on which balances your stats better

I'd build both, and compare

[spiral mantle]

alrrr

[lyric cargo]

there's a comment on it saying:

Weapon options similar to Prototype Amber can be used better by other characters, so it's not recommended to pull or upgrade these weapons just for Neuvillette.

I ignore this, because it's not like I have another user for Lost Prayers. No Wanderer, no Lisa, no Klee..

here's mine:

[hardy siren]

i just got back into playing genshin after 2 years bcz of school, im still in sumeru. im having a hard time beating the multiple mechs things can anyone plz help?

[forest venture]

what server

shoot ill be back 15 mins

[hardy siren]

asia

[hardy siren]

UID 846081733

[forest venture]

alright im going i did not expect to be 30 mins

[strange scarab]

[sour birch]

i'm sure you have barbara...

[lyric cargo]

I think I'd rather use this

[sour birch]

ugh

[lyric cargo]

where would you use Barb? Xianyun plunge forward vape?

the drinking horn sounds like a stronger meme than CA spam (which I also consider a meme?)
though I'd probably not level it for that

[sour birch]

barbara's CA multiplier is actually quite high

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[opal surge]

It's high because she has the lowest base attack in the game

Bar hutao which I don't think counts

She doesn't even have half of the base atk of 5* atk scalers

[sick quarry]

im puzzled on how the weapon banner works like if i get a fate point and it stays there until the banner ends will it stay or its gonna be gone?

[lyric cargo]

still weird how Ga Ming / Xilonen / Sayu show up despite the catalyst filter, only because they're on the active team

[lyric cargo]

fate points don't carry over to the next banner

[sick quarry]

aww i see so the choice i have now is to keep wishing?

[lyric cargo]

the recent change they made was to reduce the fate points needed for a guarantee from 2 to 1, making it more realistic to keep wishing and not waste it

[lyric cargo]

yeah, you can keep wishing or let it go away

[sick quarry]

i see thank youu noted!

[lyric cargo]

what weapon did you chart for?

[sick quarry]

oh its on chioris weapon but i got xilonen sig while pullings

i was suppose to pull on xilonen sig soo yeahh

[lyric cargo]

you got both chars?

[sick quarry]

nope only xilonen

[opal surge]

Why would you keep pulling then

[lyric cargo]

ah. then stopping and saving for upcoming chars is a consideration

chiori's weapon is a decent stat stick even for other chars, but it's not as big of an increase as some other vertical investments like Furina constellations

[sick quarry]

i didnt pull yet after i got xilonens sig

i see i see

[sick quarry]

thankies

[near prism]

Because uraku is a broken weapon

[opal surge]

If I had a need for uraku I mightve pulled the pp sword but I only have 5* swords and no 5*s of other weapon types

[royal pagoda]

man im stuck at act 10

[opal surge]

What even is in act 10 IT

[royal pagoda]

pma

i left with this fml

[opal surge]

Holy

That's a restart angle

Do you have rewinds left and are you able to pick up a DPS with the rewind

[royal pagoda]

no more DPS gonna have to restart once again

Raiden n Clorinde gone ;-;

[opal surge]

[elder bluff]

Pick more DPS

[hot spoke]

How long is the latest archon quests

[opal surge]

5-6h combined

[royal pagoda]

i just realize i didnt get Arlechino in this run

bruh

[lyric cargo]

do you pick up blessings early? I try to get all characters as fast as possible, so I can keep the good ones in reserve rather than having to use them

[royal pagoda]

yea haha maxed 4 of them then no cahr

All g thouh cuz we fkin did it BOIIIISS!!!

[late pebble]

Team recommendations

[jolly junco]

na🅱️ ia, bennett, furina/fischl, a second geo (unleveled kachina with cinder city works) second half
first half it's not that restrictive team wise so whatever you think your strongest option left is

[strange scarab]

i was thinking arle overload

[late pebble]

nabia.?

[jolly junco]

navia

[late pebble]

Whats fischl role

[jolly junco]

off-field damage and electro application

[late pebble]

She AINT built

I js realized all of my 5 stars are hydro and electro. 🌚

This aint gon work

[jolly junco]

they're not but you can still play them first half

[opal surge]

You can replace her with Xiangling/furina

[wind bolt]

Sensi carrying this channel as always

[opal surge]

many of the other helpers deserve that credit more than me

[wind bolt]

I person i see her are you yozho memesicles

Guoba balls

Hidden those guys

Prolly forgor some too

[lyric cargo]

Lemon 🍋

[zealous ledge]

Hey all, suddenly, after last update, my genshin has started fps lagging. My pc is insane and runs games way heavier than genshin on max settings without any fps issues. Genshin never had these issues either, until now. I tried lowering settings, but still fps lag. Anyone else experiencing this recently?

[wind bolt]

no

[dusty cape]

[unreal abyss]

can someone help me farm for nilou on my alt acc? my characters arent built. dm me pls(eu server)

[dusty cape]

#👥gimshim-coop

[strange scarab]

#👥gimshim-coop

hey bbg 💋

[unreal abyss]

o

[lyric cargo]

all I can say is, have you restarted the computer since or tried closing some windows? sometimes that's all it takes to get rid of lag

if that's not the problem, it could be any number of things.. hard to say

[zealous ledge]

Extensive driver updates fixed it!

[left horizon]

what team can i do with these (i will unlock barbara and xiangling)

[strange scarab]

none

literally just 8 people

[left horizon]

i just nead 1 team bro i just started

[strange scarab]

just use whatever

early game it doesnt matter

[lyric cargo]

I guess:
Kaeya, Xilonen, Bennett, Geo MC

but it depends on what enemies you're facing. Enemies with shields have certain elemental weaknesses

I'd make sure to use Xilonen for her overworld movement utility

Bennett is of limited value without his burst, it could be hard to get enough energy recharge early on

[left horizon]

thank you ;-;

[lyric cargo]

oh, and some overworld puzzles may require an archer

[wind bolt]

Overworld teams arw like whatever icl

[lyric cargo]

I like having movement utility

Xilonen is pretty nice, being able to stop. Yelan has to keep moving while her skill is active
(and running up cliffs, of course)

you do need chars who are somewhat built though, otherwise fights take forever

[wind bolt]

Yelan ftw

[lyric cargo]

it's nice how she's also a bow user for certain puzzles

[wind bolt]

Amber

[lyric cargo]

Amber brings basically nothing, besides being free

I think Sayu's, Xilonen's, Xianyun's, Wanderer's movement utility is all better than Yelan
but Yelan shoots targets, so she often ends up on exploration teams for me

[wind bolt]

Pyro bow

[lyric cargo]

some puzzles are pretty specific, yeah

[wind bolt]

Yelan better then sayu trust

[lyric cargo]

Sayu's skill has a lot longer duration, so unless you pulled c1 I don't see it ^^

just in terms of movement utility

Yelan also deals with enemies of course

[dusty cape]

[lyric cargo]

but ultimately, there are so many chars with movement utility that I'd never pull because of it

[wind bolt]

Swiming saurians

[lyric cargo]

taking green saurians for a swim :3

(getting that achievement broke my heart)

[dusty cape]

mario odyssey

[wind bolt]

True but on water omg

[dusty cape]

dang dude I just fell off a cliff on accident to get that 😭😭

[wind bolt]

Are there any atk scaling hydro outside of xq and ayato?

[dusty cape]

[lyric cargo]

Traveler n_n
at least they ascend with atk%

[wind bolt]

Real

[opal surge]

if this is unbuffed then you just need better supports or youre not rotating correctly

[lyric cargo]

for better feedback: https://enka.network/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1176289546829303868/Untitled_Artwork.jpg?ex=67138b42&is=671239c2&hm=ebd409b8bbe6e0f405aacbf727602f8297b81789c4a19d7a5729a537ee6f9adc&

[final bay]

guys im planning to build thoma so that my zhongli will be useful for other teams and need also more shielders whats the best build for him?

[wind bolt]

Shield? Just stack hp and er on him
Burgeon just stack em on him

[final bay]

so basically for sands ER and the goblet and circlet all hp

[lyric cargo]

if you can manage it, EM pieces with high ER substats might be enough

possibly kitain, but not sure if the billet is worth it

[final bay]

i mean its for hutao

hutao, xq, yelan and thoma

[lyric cargo]

oh, I thought burgeon sorry

I'm blind

[final bay]

nah its my fault i forgot to elaborate more

so just ER sands, hp both goblet and circlet then for the artifacts?

[neon harness]

Yummy pogli

[opal surge]

[forest venture]

🤨

[violet mountain]

Niche question for anyone who knows—

I really wanna play chiori, navia, and xilonen together, and I have c2 r1 xilonen. Her c2 says “her source samples will always remain active,” so even if I have 3 geos will I get the res shred?

[jolly junco]

yes

[violet mountain]

Thank you!!! Thats such a relief 😭

[forest venture]

[timber spire]

What is this

[elder bluff]

time limited challenge

[timber spire]

I see, thanks

[median glade]

entrance wher

[neon wave]

helo

wha

MMMH

[dusty cape]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-gif-16275370852608808532

[neon wave]

sure
are you EU?

755212033

[maiden elbow]

Is albino event wep good for xilonan

[red jungle]

yall why can’t i go past the 3rd performance, am i doing it wrong?

i’ve completed it like 3 times now

[forest venture]

stop showing me pictures of
stop it!
it's me
stoooooppp

[forest venture]

wdym?

[red jungle]

like the act 3

i complete it and the act 4 doesn’t show up

[neon wave]

You should be able to select the difficulty before starting
On the top left it says you're doing easy mode, which only goes up to act 3

[quaint fern]

👆 that

[red jungle]

ohh omg i’m so dumb

how do i get more characters..

[forest venture]

Pull more (or level your existing ones to 70+)

[red jungle]

bruh

thanks

[quaint fern]

well for normal it's 60+ but yeah

[haughty lotus]

Kazuha after nahida vro

[haughty lotus]

No
Sig > freedom sworn > favonius

Yeah it’s cringe

Fischl should be before nahida

Heehee

At the start or end of her stuff

If you’re on whimsy you want to stack it first tho

[opal surge]

its technically (Fischl Q > Kaz Q > Nah E > Clor 6N3E) > Kaz tEP > Clor Q > Nah E > Fischl Q/E > Kaz Q/tEP > Clor EE 6N3E

brackets being first rotation

but if ur lazy and dont wanna swap to clorinde twice u can just burst after every e

i usually do that tbh xdd

i have some sussy downtime every rotation where i just do a couple clorinde NA's though because I'm too lazy to do it properly

[jolly junco]

banned

[quaint fern]

fake ganyu main

for some reason I've been canceling her aimed shots too early recently :icant:

[jolly junco]

yes and no

with tf the rotation changes a bit for max fischl uptime, it's tighter and has less room for wrong inputs

[opal surge]

but its also more intuitive at the same time imo

but i guess with tf rotation nahida has higher chances to grief your swirl if youre slow

[jolly junco]

honestly I never really had issues swirling electro

i absorbed kazuha's burst with electro before doing nahida then just tep with kazuha again before clorinde

and by the end of clorinde's e combo with oz on the field there is electro aura to swirl

maybe its an issue with higher ping

[opal surge]

I wouldnt know I dont have nahida

just looks tighter on paper for Fischl Q/E > Nahida E Q > Kazuha Q > Clorinde combo > Fischl E/Q > Kazuha tEP > Clorinde combo > Kazuha tEP but you can prolly just adjust and it wont matter

i guess u just swap kazuha and nahida first action here to ensure it right

[jolly junco]

yes

[wind bolt]

Chat can i cook with this one

[lyric cargo]

I think that might be cooking too hot, but I leveled some pretty cope pieces earlier 😅

[opal surge]

you dont even have other gilded pieces

[lyric cargo]

for off-pieces, it's pretty bad

[lyric cargo]

(might be filtered to only show unlocked pieces?)

[wind bolt]

yea its cope gonna fodder it

[lyric cargo]

to level other pieces? (I never do that, but that's because I farm artifact investigation)

[wind bolt]

yuh

already spend my thing for elixer and using +4 is more efficient

[wind bolt]

i do artifact routes too but getting extras.not having to use em all the time is nice

[lyric cargo]

yeah, getting to bottle it is nice. I'm sitting on this many now

[wind bolt]

💀

[wind bolt]

dont you level pieces?

[lyric cargo]

it was 273x 10k and 563x 2.5k on September 14
so in about a month, it went up a good amount

[lyric cargo]

only the ones with potential, everything else goes to strongbox

they're 3-liners with main stats I don't currently need

like an instructor atk goblet, no char currently wants that

but if it becomes useful, I have it

[wind bolt]

so like never

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't say it's impossible 🤷

[wind bolt]

what do your builds even look like if you got somany of em

[opal surge]

i would throw the sands if you have another gilded one thats better

id prolly keep the flower either way

[lyric cargo]

instructor builds?

[wind bolt]

no all your builds

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/u/hidden50/

[opal surge]

nice yelan

[lyric cargo]

the Xilonen is probably the best example
I haven't leveled some of her pieces because they're not good enough long-term

[wind bolt]

goblet seems good

[lyric cargo]

especially when Neuv isn't stealing her goblet

[wind bolt]

arti sharing

[opal surge]

I cant believe there isnt an auto lock feature for instructor

its only 5*s

[lyric cargo]

it could roll alright, but I'm not done with the domain. could get a better one ^^

[haughty lotus]

[wind bolt]

i just roll every piece that got potential thats how i got some of my pieces for xilo circlet can be better buts its a fine enough placeholder

[lyric cargo]

I'm not really struggling

if I was having problems and needed her to heal more, I'd level them now

(I'm also waiting to farm talent mats until an overflowing mastery event, otherwise the skill would be crowned)

what's the upside?

[wind bolt]

i just got them from exploration to level it

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I do that as well

[haughty lotus]

What’s the downside to doing it now, do you level only 3 characters a year?

[lyric cargo]

I got a bit of a backlog, but it's not that long

[haughty lotus]

No. Unless you’re new and have nothing else. Who are you farming crimson for?

[lyric cargo]

my talent backlog is like one char per farming slot (Mon/Thu, Tue/Fri, Wed/Sat)

Navia (Mon) and Xilonen (Tue) are the ones that need it most
I just want to make sure I have something to farm for each day of the event

normally there's one every game version (they switched between mastery and leyline)
but I think we skipped one now, there hasn't been one announced at least

[haughty lotus]

Sure

Crimson isn’t efficient to farm and there’s other options. If you really want to go for it only strongbox it, the domain is bad

Susge

Your pyro goblet is good, a 0 cv will never be a consideration

[lyric cargo]

resin efficient domains would be those where you need both sets

there aren't any such domains for you?

these should often be efficient:
Marechaussee Hunter + Golden Troupe
Scroll + Obsidian Codex

I guess you're going for off-meta chars only?

(looked at enka now)
ah, they're all older chars

yeah, makes sense

I guess emblem + shime is efficient for you, if you use shime on Hutao and haven't finished farming it

but I see you're using CW

mmh, that's a lot of ER. Normally you'd use an atk sands

in terms of substats and crit, he could get more
but it depends on how much you use him

ER needs aside, what I usually do is count useful substats

so crit rate, crit dmg, atk%, ER

[barren linden]

They were meaning in the general sense, not for your XQ specifically.

[lyric cargo]

I think we have different goals, I usually assume people are minmaxing for abyss

[barren linden]

And generally... XQ used exclusively as a burst user and hydro application works.

He doesn't have to deal dmg.

[lyric cargo]

that's a good priority, chars with a lower damage share would come later

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds
this is a good resource to bookmark, it ranks the possible sets you can use:

some comments needed on many of them, I guess

kqm can be good as well, yeah
the sheet is more for a quick look

[barren linden]

Where are her stats ?

[neon harness]

so true

[lyric cargo]

so, Noblesse only for atk scaling teams of course
Scroll only if there's no Natlan char who can hold it

after that I guess it's 2pc 2pc? that's disappointing

ah.

it seems Itto's best team is now Xilonen, Furina, Yelan

but it's kinda sus to use up two premium supports if it's not a big increase
and it would probably increase his ER req, having less geo teammates

[barren linden]

Chiori could work with Noelle, and trigger geo resonance.

[lyric cargo]

Chiori will be fine, so long as there's a construct

[barren linden]

Not optimal, but accessible to newcomers.

[lyric cargo]

Kachina should provide one, and can hold the scroll set for a pretty large buff

it'll be fine, the only problem I could see would be Zhongli's pillar breaking
I'm not quite sure if Chiori gets the 2 dolls even if the pillar breaks, let me check

[haughty lotus]

Itto has a construct vro

[lyric cargo]

ah
I forget the pet counts

[dusty cape]

erm his name is ushi 🤓 👆

[lyric cargo]

the current one, or more long-term?

oh, I just noticed your char levels

Itto scales with def, and base def comes from char level
so I imagine you'd want to try and lvl90 him

most chars who deal damage with their talents, you'd want to fully ascend
so you can level up their relevant talents

I know it can be rough to get enough books, if you're not playing that regularly

[wind bolt]

bp + teapot to the rescue

[sage sail]

which artifact scanners are safe to use? i'm a bit intimidated by the warnings on optimiser

[forest venture]

grab a controller, record yourself showing a lot of artifacts on the inventory

[sage sail]

so is that artiscan?

ig that's the safest option bc it doesn't actually go thru game files, right?

[neon harness]

Yes

Ive tried screenshots and screen recordings, both worked

Just for screen recording, dont scroll through too fast

[forest venture]

yes, you use your screen recording software (OBS, bandicam, etc.) and the artiscan uses that video

[strange scarab]

klee

[hot spoke]

Yanfei Yanfei Yanfei Yanfei Yanfei

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121106615093956719/1280345223704084540/Try_1.gif

[hot spoke]

Diluc can also work but Hu tao nope

[silk mango]

Is it worth building diluc? I already have built arlecchino and alhaitham

[rugged sparrow]

not necessarily if you have built a pyro DPS already, no
worth considering to build him for Imaginarium Theatre when pyro comes around, but IT isn't that difficult to warrant an "amazing" build so take that as you will

[silk mango]

Ok 👍

[nova swift]

same

[forest venture]

build diluc if you want him to, or if you're a fan of dragonstrike team

[lyric cargo]

there's Xianyun plunge, but it uses your Furina and forces you to pull a somewhat niche support

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpx-jLxOT2k

nice. should just be crit and def% substats

def% sands
geo dmg% goblet
crit circlet

4pc Golden Troupe

she also has some atk scaling, right? GenshinBuilds also lists atk% substats, but I'm not sure how much behind def% they are

4pc Husk of Opulent Dreams is also an option

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[sterile ruin]

zhongli hybrid build?

[lyric cargo]

hmm?

I'd just build Zl for shield strength and fav for team energy

[sterile ruin]

i want him to both have relatively strong shield and do burst dmg

[neon harness]

🤭 hyperinvest moment

hp sands, hp/geo goblet, crit rate circlet, homa and fav for weapon, tenacity set still

[sterile ruin]

as long as it doesnt cost more primo than just getting the man himself

[sterile ruin]

im using him for itto, tenacity probably wont work as good

[neon harness]

wdym by wont work as good? the set

[sterile ruin]

yeah i forgot to type tenacity 😭

[neon harness]

itto still scales off of atk, he just converts def to atk

thats why benny still works with him

itto similar to how hutao works, hutao converts hp to atk

[sterile ruin]

wouldnt he gain more atk from def than just directly getting atk tho

[neon harness]

yes, thats why you build def on him, theres no def buffing set tho, for supports to use i mean

[sterile ruin]

we do need such a set…

[sterile ruin]

what abt substats?

[neon harness]

crit and er

[sterile ruin]

ooooo

[neon harness]

atk and hp% as well

[sterile ruin]

bros literally all rounded 😭

[neon harness]

you could go 4p emblem igig, but itto atk buff

[sterile ruin]

yeee im going tenacity

buff both his personal dmg and itto dmg

i hope i’ll remember this by the time i get him

[neon harness]

😕

[jolly junco]

without c6 she's just a relatively bad sustain character

she is not good with childe

and c6 dori makes her into an onfielder

[neon harness]

om

[lyric cargo]

older chars have pretty universally bad constellations 😔

the first good ones were on Yelan and Raiden I think.

then there was Nahida, and after that from Fontaine onwards they started making good early cons more often

[forest venture]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-12805283983527558774

[neon harness]

sksu

[timber spire]

Is this artifact good for Neuv?

[lyric cargo]

it's pretty good, 6 useful substats rolls if you don't count EM

with the upside of rolling into crit dmg rather than crit rate (if you're in danger of overcapping)

but it depends on what you currently have

[timber spire]

Overcapping?

[gray oxide]

More than 100% crit rate doesnt really do anything

[lyric cargo]

Neuv gets 36% crit rate from the 4pc effect, so if he has more than 64% before it, the rest will be lost

[gray oxide]

Wazzup hidden mychad

[timber spire]

I see, thanks

[lyric cargo]

here's my Neuv for example, his crit rate is effectively 99.7%

that's why I had to use a flower without crit rate at all (it would've been a dead stat)

granted, that's because of the weapon

if I had his signature, that wouldn't be an issue

[timber spire]

The crit rate there doesn't include the 4 piece right?

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[timber spire]

I see

How about his sign weapon, what does it give

[lyric cargo]

+88.2% crit dmg
+16 hp%
+42 charge attack dmg%
8 energy up to every 12s

[timber spire]

Damn

[lyric cargo]

the charge attack dmg% stacks additively with things like a hydro dmg goblet or Furina's, Kazuha's, or Xilonen's dmg% buff from the scroll set

[timber spire]

I see

That's why it makes a great team to have neuv with kazuha and furina

[lyric cargo]

and Xilonen, yeah

it's the most consistent of the top teams right now, and also the best in AoE

[timber spire]

Ah I get it now

[lyric cargo]

it's a very good weapon, the only problem is what other 5★ weapon it might run with

[timber spire]

I see

[neon harness]

😌

[hasty shell]

cann i get a team for 12 :3

i canbeat it segmented

rn clorinde collei fischl kazuha gets to 50% on lastwave by 7 mins

[jolly junco]

raiden, bennett, xiangling, yelan/xingqiu 1st half
clorinde, zhongli, chiori, furina 2nd half

[neon harness]

wow that saturation

[forest venture]

how long will i be able to finish these

[neon harness]

Atleast 1 min

[lyric cargo]

I'm not aware of any limit

you can wait on them as long as you want, do other things first

it's just the newer ones that give additional rewards for finishing them the patch they come out

these

[coral vortex]

Guys i m using vape arle and idk if i should use em sands or atk sands since i m using atk goblet what should i do?

[lyric cargo]

no pyro dmg goblet available? I haven't heard about any mechanic that would make atk goblet good on her 🤔

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[coral vortex]

I have a pyro goblet but its sh..tand i do less dmg with it

[lyric cargo]

probably better than a good atk% one, I'd assume

have you considered crafting one?

if your other pieces are already good

[coral vortex]

I have a pyro goblet with 6%crit dmg and thats all

[coral vortex]

I m trying still need more time

[lyric cargo]

it's the rarest mainstat and the last piece you need, so pretty much the ideal situation for crafting

[lyric cargo]

ah, already tried this patch?

[coral vortex]

I mean i still have 1 elixire:(

[lyric cargo]

ah

[lyric cargo]

have you gotten all the ones you can get right now?

it seems like we can get:

• 1 from each tribe vault (currently 3, eventually 6)
• 1 for every 10 levels of pyro sigil rewards (currently 2, eventually 5)
• 1 from anniversary rewards
• 1 from artifacts every patch (so far 2)
• 1 from paid battle pass every patch (so far 2)
  I don't buy battle pass, so it's 8 for me so far

[coral vortex]

Still didnt do any of that

Is it time consuming?

Like hard to do?

[strange scarab]

on average its like 2 hrs per story i also been rushing sq the last few days only cyno and chiori left

[coral vortex]

Ah ok thx

[haughty lotus]

^

[lyric cargo]

I think it took me 3 days to 100% the Natlan regions we have so far
I'd say it's somewhat time consuming, but a lot more worth it than before

did you get the treasure compass yet?

[strange scarab]

i see

[coral vortex]

Well its hard to say that but i still didnt unlock natlan

[lyric cargo]

I used to be a SQ hater, but now the new ones are worth doing immediately, I started doing the old ones to get them out of the way

[strange scarab]

gg

[lyric cargo]

oh. you're playing the story in order?

I think everyone got a teleport point in or near natlan, so people who want can start immediately?

and we can start the archon quest early as well

probably worth doing, since archon quest and character story give extra rewards if you do them the patch they come out

[coral vortex]

Well i m trying to do the quest but im feeeling so lazy idk why since i dont have any 5 star natlan character so unlocking natlan wasnt bothering me+ i m still on fontain archon quest

[lyric cargo]

this is what I mean, btw:
we have 10 days 9 hours left to collect these rewards

[lyric cargo]

might be worth getting Xilonen. You're saving for upcoming chars?

[coral vortex]

Well i m saving for c1 arle i m at 80 pity guaranteed with 4000 primos

[lyric cargo]

ah

[forest venture]

bruh i cant with ppl bringing hydro every matchup

[coral vortex]

Xilonen is good but idk since i have kazuha i ll just take the risk of skiping her and thats all ik iwill regret that xD

[lyric cargo]

I think I heard she's not that much of an increase because Arle has other supports already, unlike Neuv

against enemies with high pyro res, bringing both Kazuha and Xilonen might be very good though

you always want Bennett, so this would mean not running vape

[coral vortex]

Ah yea thats right well thank u for clearing my decision

[coral vortex]

Ah btw do u have any good arle teams for vape

[lyric cargo]

Yelan + Bennett for sure

you could use c6 Candace in AoE, but Sensi was saying they'd rather use Yelan

last slot is probably Kazuha or Xilonen, but I'm not that familiar with Arle teams. Kaz has grouping and some personal damage, Xil has longer buff duration

[coral vortex]

Me whos using barbara

[fiery turret]

Is this good

Ok genuine question which piece could i genuinely improve

[opal surge]

Feather, flower and circlet are somewhat easily improvable

Circlet is especially bad for being an offpiece

[frosty idol]

c2r1 raiden/furina/bennett/ttds lisa (chevy and sara's not c6 yet)
or
raiden/furina/nahida/bennett

[lyric cargo]

oh. she doesn't apply that much hydro, I think? For Arlecchino to trigger vape, the enemy needs to have hydro aura
(meaning your hydro app needs to win out over pyro app, otherwise it'll be pyro aura and Barbara will be the one vaping)

[coral vortex]

Thats how it goes but it seems good just for bosses for multi target its so trash .

[onyx grove]

I want to try Barbara bloom is Nahida, Barbara, Kazuha and Collei good or should I swap Collei for DMC?

[lyric cargo]

probably looks okay only because the overworld enemies have low hp, so the single vape is most of its hp bar

I'd say try it in abyss?

Yelan should give you multiple vapes, not just one

I assume Barbara is holding ttds? (the 3★ catalyst that buffs atk)

[lyric cargo]

if it's not hyperbloom or burgeon, you need Nilou to make bloom good. Otherwise it doesn't really deal that much damage

[onyx grove]

it's just for fun, I don't plan to use her like that in abyss, if I do it just for a test

[lyric cargo]

there used to be an interaction where Barbara could keep applying hydro very quickly to 3 or more enemies, but I believe it was nerfed early in version 3?

[lyric cargo]

ah

[opal surge]

whats the point of kazuha

[onyx grove]

yeah 3.1 they changed her skill details to don't allow that, but she's pretty good to apply hydro still

[lyric cargo]

I don't believe DMC will be better than Collei.

[onyx grove]

more EM since nahida doesn't have 1000 EM and kazuha can bloom too

[lyric cargo]

oh, is he c2?

[onyx grove]

I have key and elegy, probably elegy will be better too right?

[onyx grove]

no sadly

but he have that +1000 EM for Nahida's passive

[lyric cargo]

yeah, Elegy Collei if you have that

[lyric cargo]

oh, I see

[coral vortex]

Any f2p options xinque work too right? But he needs a good build and er for hes ult

[onyx grove]

so collei > DMC, got it

[opal surge]

shouldnt barbara have 1k em if you want to do bloom

[onyx grove]

instructor on Collei I suppose?

[onyx grove]

yeah that too, I'll farm for that

[timber spire]

can an artifact like this make it to the top 1 on neuv?

[onyx grove]

triple EM + Nahida ult + Collei c2 or c4 idk + Elegy should be enough...

well in that case I don't really need kazuha but more hydro won't be a problem ig...

[onyx grove]

it depends on the other ones lol

[lyric cargo]

yeah, Xingqiu applies even more hydro than Yelan (especially with constellations)

I believe Yelan applies more than Arle needs, and Yelan buffs Arle's dmg% as well. That's why she's an upgrade.

Xingqiu has some defensive utility though, might make Arle more comfortable to play (not sure)

[timber spire]

alr

[opal surge]

nahida burst doesnt count to her a1 if thats what you mean

[onyx grove]

it was for this but Barbara already have +1000 EM so kazuha isn't actually needed

[opal surge]

yeah thats her a1

im saying the EM you gain from this doesnt count towards the 1k em cap

[onyx grove]

yeah ik only 250 EM

[lyric cargo]

so, the thing is also that Kaz can't swirl hydro since dendro will be the aura

because bloom uses twice as much hydro as dendro

the only way to absorb hydro into his burst will be if you use it before any dendro application

[lyric cargo]

it's 1/4 of the highest EM of any team member, up to 1000

Barbara should max that on her own

[onyx grove]

Barbara NA > Kazuha Q > Nahida E Q > Collei E Q > Barbara

you can infuse hydro

also Barbara E can self apply hydro

[lyric cargo]

right

[lyric cargo]

problem would be future rotations, where the dendro aura already exists

but like you said, self-application

I still think someone else would give you more blooms, since he won't swirl

unless it's about the grouping

[onyx grove]

it helps on that too yeah

if the enemies move id I don't have CC I might lose a lot of bloom cores

[vast wraith]

hey, i currently need characters for faster abyss clearing

i have two main dps's: hu tao, mualani

so ideally i'd need xilonen, furina and mauvika

however i don't spend that much money on this game to get all 3

who do i prioritize 😭

a better question would be, is xilonen a must pull like furina and others

[jolly junco]

no limited 5*s in this game are truly must pulls, though some can make content easier or faster

xilonen is a strong versatile support, works well with both mualani and hu tao

furina works well with hu tao

[vast wraith]

yeah but should i get them to replace the 4 stars

for example kachina in mualani team, and xingqiu in hu tao team

[jolly junco]

that's up to you really

if your goal is to build the strongest teams possible for your characters

then both of them yes

[vast wraith]

would they provide a significant boost

[jolly junco]

both mualani and hu tao are able to clear abyss with teams where all the other characters are just 4*s so you don't need to feel forced to pull or anything

[jolly junco]

yes

both in terms of QoL and damage

though with hu tao you still run xingqiu or yelan alongside furina

there are some non-furina teams for hu tao that are not that far behind the furina ones damage wise but they're less comfortable and harder to play (e.g yelan, kazuha, bennett)

[vast wraith]

well i'm currently using double hydro with hu tao

i really value qol, so getting furina to replace xingqiu would be a better choice than getting c1 hu tao for example right

[jolly junco]

for your account overall yes, for a hu tao team specifically it depends

[vast wraith]

i'm just looking to improve my account value at this point

as in, have more teams to use

[jolly junco]

well you cant go wrong with xilonen and furina really

[vast wraith]

but the same issue arises, i simply can't get all 3 limited characters (furina, xilonen, mauvika)

[lyric cargo]

how many wishes do you have saved up right now?

if it's enough to get Xilonen, I reckon you might be able to get Mavuika as well by the time she comes out
if you have content left to grind through, and the time to do the grinding

[vast wraith]

67 pity + 11 wishes

not guaranteed

[lyric cargo]

that sounds like it might work out, if you win your 50/50s

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/aventurine-all-or-nothing-gif-940052929516816023

[lyric cargo]

when it comes down to it, I expect Xilonen and Mavuika to have their reruns before Furina

[vast wraith]

is it that bad with Furina? I think she hasn't had a banner for a while

[lyric cargo]

archons usually run once per game version

so I'd try to get Furina when she reruns this time

[vast wraith]

at first I assumed Furina would have a banner in 5.3/5.4

[lyric cargo]

might still be the case

[vast wraith]

but reading your explanation, i think i should just get xilo then try to get mauvika when she's out

and eventually furina

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's what I'd do. if you want to play it safe, you can wait to the end of the banner in hopes of more information

if, by that time, a Furina run hasn't been announced, I'd assume you'll have time to get back to soft pity at least

someone gave me similar advice when I was planning to skip Kazuha to guarantee a char after it, and it worked out

if you lose the 50/50 on Xilonen, you can still consider to keep the guarantee

[vast wraith]

well guess i'm saving the guaranteed lol