📌gimshim-help

[haughty lotus]

Sure vro…

[feral reef]

😌

vro what team should i use that has dehya and xilonen
i can think of dehya rina xilo bennett

[haughty lotus]

Indeed vro

[lusty tulip]

What are good def, er, and cr stats for favge xilonen?

[feral reef]

whats ur ar my g

[neon harness]

hihiiiiiiiiii 💋

[quaint fern]

Simping solves quite a lot

[neon harness]

skill issue vro

[haughty lotus]

23

[haughty lotus]

Did not ask.

[short shale]

can anyone please point out an oculus here?

[neon harness]

you did vro

[feral reef]

exploration where

[haughty lotus]

Block her tbh

[feral reef]

wait.... yunyun isnt an incel 40 year old man like the rest of us.... what the vruck....

[haughty lotus]

Sadly not

She’s an uwu girl

[feral reef]

grr

[haughty lotus]

😞

[feral reef]

what the vruck did i just see

[haughty lotus]

The circle being outlined means it’s underground. Google genshin interactive map, it’ll show you how to get to any oculus

[haughty lotus]

What is vro gonna do…

[feral reef]

idk\

what is bro gonna do

[haughty lotus]

Hunt them down I suppose

[feral reef]

when i get mavuika i can have the ultimate waifu team

[haughty lotus]

Off-topic. Please refer to the #simping channel.

But True… mualani mavuika xiolnen idk 😌

[feral reef]

dehya

[feral reef]

have you listened to thick of it x not like us phonk x fein x nightcrawler

[haughty lotus]

No

[feral reef]

well can you give me razor language kit of xilonen first pls

[haughty lotus]

Eqn2

[feral reef]

vro so how is the res shred applied my g

on field or\ off

[haughty lotus]

That’s it vro, she’s braindead vro

[feral reef]

ah so good for me then\

[haughty lotus]

Just gotta pay attention to 4pc scroll so you buff the right thing

[haughty lotus]

Are you brainrotted vro…

[feral reef]

i was wondering why my kazuha didnt do damage, then i realised i didnt have 4pc on

[haughty lotus]

Vro… why are you touching kazuhas artifacts…

[feral reef]

idk vro

thats why im rotted

[haughty lotus]

Vross

[feral reef]

ur mum i sv ross

[haughty lotus]

sv?

[feral reef]

vro heres my build rn, i think i need more crit

[haughty lotus]

Gotta cr circlet if you don’t have pog substats

[feral reef]

also should i ten ten xilo skill vurst

[neon harness]

😢dont remind me

[haughty lotus]

Vruck nah to burst vro

[neon harness]

Im being forced to explore by the event

[feral reef]

i saw that

i have gyatt

[neon harness]

Photographic proof, rn

[feral reef]

of my gyatt? freaky

[haughty lotus]

Stop being weird yunyun, this isn’t #simping

Mods

[neon harness]

🤭

why bucket :raisedbows:

[feral reef]

gyatt team

[neon harness]

om

[haughty lotus]

ega

[feral reef]

egyatt

[haughty lotus]

Who is ma (3)

[feral reef]

is this the best dehya/xilonen team

[haughty lotus]

Ig vro

[neon harness]

use xingqiu and yelan instead of furina and benny, then sub dehya for nahida and xilonen for kuki

😌

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-blocked-gif-20317708

[feral reef]

*her

[rugged sparrow]

a coping episode cuz ZL got powercrept

[haughty lotus]

True

[feral reef]

???

[rugged sparrow]

[keen condor]

how

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/915180263003267094/1142575699488673842/icon_8.gif

[sharp saddle]

hi best girl

[keen condor]

is c1 xilion and xq snough to run no shilder yoi?

[rugged sparrow]

most if not all teams that run ZL just run Xilo now
ZL only advantage is just shield
hence yunyun coping

[neon harness]

hihiii

[rugged sparrow]

no one runs Yoi though let's be real

[neon harness]

😢

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus i found out how to make xilonen shake her gyatt

[rugged sparrow]

but no c1 Xilo is only 0.5 IR

[keen condor]

one day she’ll be good trust

[haughty lotus]

Please don’t elaborate further

[keen condor]

i am a hoyo insider

[rugged sparrow]

cant buff Yoi specifically without buffing others in the process

[neon harness]

😌 zhongli better at holding polearm (true) ||😢||

[rugged sparrow]

true...

[feral reef]

what if zhongli doesnt wanna hold ur pole

[neon harness]

[keen condor]

just make a charecter that grants atk cr and cd buffs if and only if a pyro bow used uses thier skill and attakcs with infused NA

not targeted

[feral reef]

mavuika maybe, but she would buff natlan more i would assume

[keen condor]

im hoping she buffs yoimiya even a bit

[neon harness]

😌 just waiting for a anemo shielder that shares em at c0, buffs atk and dmg% based on em at c0, shield scales off of em, with a high scalling on that shield

[feral reef]

shelf

[keen condor]

one day

[haughty lotus]

Wow… just wow… trying to bench zhongli I see

[feral reef]

hope i dont have to pull himn

[neon harness]

🫵 i just use both at the same time, swirl geo (true)

[feral reef]

honestly, we could get that in tsaritsa but cryo

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-big-news-morgans-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-you-are-true-gif-3069649368973903304

[rugged sparrow]

[feral reef]

wtf one piece

[neon harness]

[haughty lotus]

Is real

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/liciallurie-freminet-frem-frwm-frwminet-gif-12881905961483856504

[keen condor]

dad? Is that u

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaka-horse-genshin-genshin-impact-horse-transform-gif-16881121188600697241

[feral reef]

gyatt piece?

[haughty lotus]

No

[feral reef]

whale piece

[neon harness]

bbg u gonna pull granny

actually forgot her name

[haughty lotus]

C6r5

[neon harness]

[feral reef]

shitlolly

[haughty lotus]

Probably C0r1 at most

[neon harness]

🤭 whele, imagine pulling

[feral reef]

if she had gyatt like mavuika

i would pull

[haughty lotus]

Vro

[feral reef]

@haughty lotusyeah stop pulling forever

so is shelfsicles the evil female version of memesicles

[haughty lotus]

Who is Ma (4)

[feral reef]

yo mama

[neon harness]

😌 i hope capitano is playable, i dont quite like his model but the fanarts without the face covering thing are so AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[feral reef]

gyapitano

[strange scarab]

Rot

[haughty lotus]

Made up face? 🤨

[neon harness]

yesh, lemme cope

[feral reef]

dream moment

[haughty lotus]

Go back to the degen pfp

[feral reef]

this literally dream moment

[strange scarab]

wdym

[haughty lotus]

Ykwim

[strange scarab]

no i dont

what you talking about

[haughty lotus]

yes u do

[strange scarab]

❓

[neon harness]

idk spoilers or sum ||~~ hes a rotting pile of flesh under that mask, lemme cope bbg~~||

[haughty lotus]

✅

[haughty lotus]

[neon harness]

[feral reef]

just like me fr

[neon harness]

failedspoilermoment

[haughty lotus]

In game he looks like he has a goofy mouth and nose outline when you look at his mask from the side

[strange scarab]

Hes hilichurl underneath

[feral reef]

william afton no way

[strange scarab]

ur ur ur ur ur

[neon harness]

he doess 😢 he needs to have a pretty face, plshoyoplshoyoplshoyoplshoyoplshoyoplshoyoplshoyoplshoyo

[haughty lotus]

Rotting pile of flesh is pretty?

[neon harness]

looking at how they masacred orororororon, i kinda doubt its gonna go well but i hope

[neon harness]

😢 lemme dream

[haughty lotus]

Burnt the kitchen with chasca

[neon harness]

btw are we allowed to asume chasca is bow considering she used one in xilonen trailer

[strange scarab]

𝓜𝓪𝔂𝓫𝓮...

[haughty lotus]

pwobabwy

[feral reef]

literally me

[neon harness]

but does xilonen love u

[feral reef]

wtf dream come true!!!!!

[neon harness]

🤨

[feral reef]

shelf

[neon harness]

i cast you back to #cafe-shrine-refuge where you belong

[feral reef]

wtf is that

oh.... its the freaky chat...

[haughty lotus]

You’re freaky vro

[strange scarab]

Mmmmm

[neon harness]

sent a fresh pic just for u bbg

[strange scarab]

you call dat fresh

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus hey what are you doing i nthere buddy

[strange scarab]

you havent seen much

[haughty lotus]

Observing respectfully

[neon harness]

yesh

[strange scarab]

i will show you something more degen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191917691037036609/1288871682848587797/image0.gif?ex=670dd50b&is=670c838b&hm=052d20c156db7268a7fb1196eb08219dfb16cdea31c5f508bc5bd6a76a280bf6&

[feral reef]

oh my gyaaatt

[quaint fern]

heyyyyyyyyyyyy

[haughty lotus]

Hiiiiiiiii

[feral reef]

stop #simping

[haughty lotus]

I have little to no presence in said #simping channel

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus i found ur rizz

[haughty lotus]

Relatable

[neon harness]

🤨

[feral reef]

whos ur favourite communist

[neon harness]

😌 you

[feral reef]

they do call me mao

[neon harness]

[lyric portal]

Who could I use for floor 12 (I need more for colonel

[rugged sparrow]

for who

[neon harness]

raiden yelan xiangling benny
hutao xingqiu sucrose benny

[rugged sparrow]

yunyun not recommending hypablum

[lyric portal]

I meant xilonen not colonel, she is built but I ran out of mora to level her up 😞

[neon harness]

😢 breaks my heart not to, but raiden aint 90 and kuki nowhere to be seen

[lyric portal]

I didn’t level her up cuz when she released everyone said she was poopy

[rugged sparrow]

well Kuki was poopy back on her release (2.7)

[haughty lotus]

She’s not Neuvillette therefore she’s complete ass

[rugged sparrow]

cuz her kit just didn't make much sense

[neon harness]

😌 nah dw about it, twas a joke, but actually you should start lvl 90'ing your characters, if you are over ar 50

[haughty lotus]

Deepwood about it?

[lyric portal]

Bennet was poopy on 1.0

[rugged sparrow]

he wasn't

[strange scarab]

no he aint

[lyric portal]

I got no mora, resin, or anything

[neon harness]

brainrot somewhere else pls

[strange scarab]

no one had a clue on how to play shit back then

[feral reef]

i love colonel sanders

[rugged sparrow]

ppl (mainly Western audience) had no idea how to play the game

[feral reef]

kfc

[lyric portal]

Exactly, everyone said he was poopy

[strange scarab]

doesnt mean he is

[neon harness]

plan to start leveling anyways, put it in that genshin planner or sumthing idk

[rugged sparrow]

"everyone"

[lyric portal]

Kokomi backlash before her release was surreal 😞

[feral reef]

bennett is still bad

all he does is heal

[neon harness]

🤭

[strange scarab]

[rugged sparrow]

there was a good reason for it but it's leaks territory so

[feral reef]

furina made him a bit better

[lyric portal]

I don’t like bennet, I was forced to level him with my scarce materials

[neon harness]

did furina make you abit better tho

[lyric portal]

How do I use Benny twice tho

🦭

[feral reef]

mavuika fr

idk im just a john

[rugged sparrow]

I mean u have other team options like Neuv and aggravate

even just monohydro

[neon harness]

thoma insead of benny for tao

[lyric portal]

All I did for the previous floors was use kokomi as a dps with nahida and solo all the way to floor 12, I got full stars tho 🦭

[neon harness]

brain fried

[sharp saddle]

very carefully

[rugged sparrow]

just Kokomi/Xingqiu/Yelan/Xilonen

2nd half run whatever you have left that's comfy to play

[lyric portal]

I am so low on materials I been starting to give characters the builds from other characters, Xiangling uses hu Taos build 😞

[neon harness]

😔

[neon harness]

what ar are you?

[lyric portal]

56

[quaint fern]

go farm emblem

[lyric portal]

I stopped playing when sumeru released cuz I was too lazy to explore that huge thing

I came back cuz natlan low key fire 🦭

[rugged sparrow]

hahah nation of fire is fire

[feral reef]

who should i get after mauvika and gyattvia? or just save vros

[lyric portal]

I thought of that but the first stage uses the big* cryo guy and the second phase is hydro creatures

[rugged sparrow]

cryo guy has delayed shield, focus on him first

[lyric portal]

I been trying to get venti since 1.0, but every time he comes I lose the 50/50, on kazuha too 😞

[rugged sparrow]

if your Kokomi/Yelan/Xq aren't cope you can probs bring it below 30% hp and just kill it with shield up without much issue

[lyric portal]

Kokomi so good she is c1 😝

[zinc needle]

should I change his circlet? or just keep up w strongbox

[rugged sparrow]

better, kill him before shield

[neon harness]

crit dmg circlet instead with cr sub imo

[rugged sparrow]

it can be better but getting anything better than it is kinda diff

[feral reef]

wait guys should i get boobilette if i have spare gems

[rugged sparrow]

what if they have 1:5 ratio cuz of cdmg circlet

[onyx grove]

even with the 4pc?

[rugged sparrow]

wdym

[lyric portal]

Crit dmg with crit rate sub, crit damage as sub is only good when it’s 20+ (that’s what I do for my artifacts)

Just look at my Kokomis crown

[onyx grove]

41% base cr

[neon harness]

😌 cope (real)
||~~im actually coping so hard, optimizer wants my neuvi on a cr circlet but i force him on cd for 300 cd 😭 ~~||

[rugged sparrow]

what

[zinc needle]

this is the ratio when the cr circlet

[neon harness]

memey shelf

[rugged sparrow]

yeah stick with cr

[feral reef]

optimiser wrong

[haughty lotus]

Shelf get better artifacts

[onyx grove]

ok use cr circlet, also wtf is that cd

[zinc needle]

cr main stat and cdmg + hp%?

[neon harness]

fr 🤭

[lyric portal]

||All of my kokomis artifacts got 20% or 19% of crit damage as sub for no reason, it just naturally happened, worse thing? She doesn’t need it||

[neon harness]

om

[zinc needle]

idrk😭 I tried

[rugged sparrow]

I mean yes but your circlet is fine as is

[neon harness]

😢 no bulli pls

[zinc needle]

tysm should I just save my elixir for future dps

[feral reef]

navia my beloved

[neon harness]

😢 zhongli..

[feral reef]

dont need him

i no have skissue

[lyric portal]

I REALLY WANT SHENHE, I need her rerun 😞

[feral reef]

i just dodge with arlec smh

[feral reef]

see ya in 2077, enjoy night city

[onyx grove]

sometimes skill issue isn't the problem...

[feral reef]

dongli is

[onyx grove]

he shread res, it can be usefull for some comps

[haughty lotus]

Just dodge

[onyx grove]

now you have xilonen right, but she does a shit for dendro and anemo

[onyx grove]

[neon harness]

suc

[feral reef]

rose

[feral reef]

she shits? wtf thats weird

[neon harness]

ko-komi

[haughty lotus]

Can’t communicate

[feral reef]

natlan has been so mean 2 me

[neon harness]

'

[haughty lotus]

“

[neon harness]

[onyx grove]

I lost 2 50/50 in natlan 🙏

[feral reef]

L

[lyric portal]

I pulled hu Tao on the wish 90 and previously lost her 5050 with 90 again with diluc (I had to whale her out)

[onyx grove]

nah W

that Xilo was radiance

[lyric portal]

Who should I add if I want to use Raiden, yae, and nahida

[onyx grove]

maybe Yelan/Xingqiu for quickbloom/hyperbloom

[feral reef]

noob

[lyric portal]

I’m using yelan and xq already

I’m doing kokomi xq yelan and xilonen

[onyx grove]

you could add fischl for aggravate too

[lyric portal]

Triple electro?

[neon harness]

if you need a healer, ig jean or xianyun, if you dont, kaz/sucrose

[rugged sparrow]

Sucrose, based on your available roster

Hakushin on Sucrose, P. Amber on Nahida if you need some heals

[onyx grove]

why not? more fischl A4 procs

but double dendro is better...

[rugged sparrow]

u replace Raiden/Yae for Fischl, not run triple electro

cuz you'll be losing VV

[lyric portal]

What does hakushin mean

[rugged sparrow]

it's Inazuma craftable catalyst

[neon harness]

zhongli, and then sub raiden for zhongli, and i think you should remove yae for zhongli, then imo zhongli instead of nahida (real)

[lyric portal]

I don’t have zhongli 🦭

[lyric portal]

My bad, my game is on Spanish

[neon harness]

craft one (real)

[rugged sparrow]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Hakushin_Ring this one

Anillo de Hakushin

[zinc needle]

what's better??

[neon harness]

left unless you need the er from right

[rugged sparrow]

left has more HP, more cdmg, and more cr, is it even a debate

[zinc needle]

wait the right one is wrong

[neon harness]

triple favge surely with 2nd hydro (fufu)

[rugged sparrow]

with Furina and some Favs it should be fine

[neon harness]

[lyric portal]

I just noticed dionas flower has 36 of crit smt as sub

[neon harness]

[lyric portal]

See

[neon harness]

[zinc needle]

which is better

[neon harness]

optimizer

[zinc needle]

what is that😭

[neon harness]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/

[zinc needle]

yeah.. idk how to use that I'll just wait for opinions

[rugged sparrow]

right should be better but well, optimizer™️

[neon harness]

om, hear me out

[lyric cargo]

that's why I always set my games and devices to english, much easier to talk to people about it online

[ripe surge]

what characters benefit the most from chiori's sword besides chiori??

[elder bluff]

albedo

[rugged sparrow]

Albedo, haitham, Keqing, Clorinde

[river coral]

good stat stick for sword dps

[sage sail]

my friend asked me an interesting question. do u guys know the answer?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

all dmg% bonuses are additive to each other

so 120%

[sage sail]

that's a shame

[opal surge]

wait how could it be 121

[rugged sparrow]

1.1 x 1.1

[sage sail]

1.1x1.1

[rugged sparrow]

assuming multiplicative

[opal surge]

oh

[sage sail]

ok ty

[zinc needle]

hi again please which is better

[sage sail]

assuming all crits, right one pretty sure. you can check the actual damage calculations in akasha using the leaderboard

[opal surge]

Optimizer knows

[sage sail]

from my rough calculations the right one will be better by about 1.1%

it's rlly not that big of a difference

left does have double the EM tho so it might come in handy at some stage lol

[neon wave]

Akasha just makes assumptions, doesn't necessarily mean they're using the same team/gearing/etc

[sage sail]

still the best tool we have at our disposal currently

[neon wave]

not really when optimizer exists

[sage sail]

well the most convenient to use

[keen willow]

Do we have to upgrade xilonen's skill

[sage sail]

it's the only one that matters

[neon wave]

and the point is that they're close enough that you won't know unless you make the accurate calculations or just put everything into opti

If they're not willing to learn opti then whatever

[sage sail]

the elemental skill that is

[neon wave]

yes
burst for heal

[keen willow]

Bro i thought it only increased the damage..

[neon wave]

res shred scaling is tied to the talent level

[keen willow]

Yeaaa i should've read it..

I found out when i saw someone crowning the skill

[opal surge]

optimizer is arguably much more convenient to use than akasha

its just the importing of the artifacts that is bothersome, beyond that its mega easy, fast and accurate

akasha you have to actually swap around gear, logout refresh to check everytime

[wet plank]

If you're even lazier you just find the same team setup you have in gcsim database and auto port your arti stats from enka to said gcsim config

[opal surge]

and youre at the mercy of mimee's shit assumptions for every character

like mualanis baseline being c2 furina burnvape

[sage sail]

c2 is crazy

[jolly junco]

i love accessible teams for the assumptions where i surely never miss any vaporises on my mualani

[wet plank]

It's like mimee suddenly had an f2p quota and excluded key too

[sharp saddle]

i heard it still misses sometimes

hitbox or smth issue

not much idea on Natlan stuff yets

[opal surge]

the first bite of this patch that I did on mualani missed entirely after the fixes

[sage sail]

only applies for thoma pretty sure bc the burst projectile is quite slow

[opal surge]

but generally speaking I ahve found that it hits consistently now

as for vapes theyre just stolen by furina

[lyric cargo]

yeah, not to mention having Furina available for the other side has high value. Where she doesn't have downsides. she's in such high demand

[sage sail]

that's precisely why i love arle overload. you can use 5* supports on the other side

so kazuha, furina and xilonen now that she's been added

i missed out on neuvi since i didn't have kazuha at the time of his rerun so im planning on getting him the next time he reruns for a full neuvi hypercarry team

[opal surge]

i love arle overload because its my favorite gcsim scam

[sage sail]

even arle mono pyro is amazing and it only requires zhongli, benny, and xiangling or any other sub dps it's great

i actually lowkey want emilie for that sub dps slot

partially because after my first 2 days of restarting farming for arle pieces i got 2 cracked emilie pieces. 2nd screenshot is a sands

my FoHW pieces are only ~30cv D:

i just slapped them on arle anyway for the 2pc

also a decent CD circlet with 2 CR rolls

unfortunately a few rolls went to EM

but it did have ATK% and ER

so mostly usable stats

[lyric cargo]

I kinda expect we'll get a scroll holder on most teams at some point. maybe over Xiangling

[lyric cargo]

scam because of assumptions?

[opal surge]

[sage sail]

i suspect ororon might be good for overload in that case

[opal surge]

(its burstless arle in a rotation thats a bit too tight but doable on sims)

[sage sail]

oh wow

[opal surge]

dont wow it its a scam

[sage sail]

ooh alley flash. i used alley flash for a while but i opted for skyward bc of ER

[lyric cargo]

ah.

[lyric cargo]

possibly, yeah. If they can hold scroll

[sage sail]

worst case scenario he has a long skill animation but that's it i reckon. unless his dmg is also doodoo

[opal surge]

this is an official genshin discord btw

no leaks, unreleased content/datamines

[sage sail]

i thought it was confirmed mb

[lyric cargo]

I'm still looking for good second AoE team options that don't use Neuv, Furina, Kaz, Xilonen

Kinda wanted c6 Chev, but both Raiden constellations and Kinich seemed like unnecessary gambles

I'll just get Mavuika and then see what her best teams are. Back to genshin the waiting game 😅

[sage sail]

og taser is always an option

also uh... hyperbloom

burn melt also works but mostly for single target

also kinda niche

ayaka could also work for burn melt but her cryo app is pretty quick

so maybe ayaka, nahida, xiangling, benny?

[spark pond]

what to improve for her
(gave atk goblet for the 4pc effect, farming a def goblet so anything other than that pls)

[sage sail]

you would need to kite enemies for ayaka burn melt bc no grouping

[sage sail]

im assuming u have c2?

unless ur maximising healing

[spark pond]

no
I'm not maxing healing either

i want her to be like Kazu 😭

[sage sail]

wait nvm the c2 thing i forgot

u don't rlly need THAT much def on her

her res shred only depends on skill level

most people run fav on her to battery other characters

im running def, geo dmg, cr just for a tiny bit more dmg and cr for fav

you could also run sword of narzissenkreuz if u have no energy problems and want to deal with meka as a rlly niche option

[spark pond]

I'm planning on using her with arle tbh
so healing will be kinda useless

i thought she'd be like kazuha but geo without crowd control

[sage sail]

then all u rlly need is skill level and 4pc

[spark pond]

then def is useful for burst healing only?

[sage sail]

she also helps relocate kinda and buffs geo but for swirlable elements, yes

[spark pond]

so i can drop farming for a def goblet?

[sage sail]

yeah. u could also use healing bonus for extra healing but def is useless except for xilonen's personal dmg

in which case geo goblet would be better

[lyric cargo]

eh.. not in AoE

I do have c2 Nahida and Key, so Nilou bloom might be an option at some point. I normally prefer more versatile chars, though

[sage sail]

going full def is only good if u have her signature

[sage sail]

im assuming from that wording u don't have nilou lol. me too. i use key on furina

[spark pond]

so ig I'll just crown her skill and leave the build as is 💀

[zinc needle]

tysm😓 idrk how optimizer works ill just use the right one

[spark pond]

@sage sail if it won't affect her buffing skill (like Kazu)

[sage sail]

i would personally switch out the goblet for my own OCD but yes

fixed it

assuming u have no problems with durability and don't want to buff her dmg, there's no reason to change the current build

[lyric cargo]

crit rate to trigger fav

ER / healing bonus / def to heal

hb should be better than def, unless you have her sig (and can't cap the passive without def% circlet)

[cursive locust]

is fav better or is the natlan craftable better?

[rugged sparrow]

... in what context

[cursive locust]

for xilonen

[rugged sparrow]

Fav

[cursive locust]

ok gotta build some cr then

[opal surge]

LoFi is just the first 28 NA/Skill hits get 120% em motionvalue added as basedamage, no?

I dont get how people get such good results for lofi in clorinde weapon comparisons

[rugged sparrow]

Clorinde mv is relatively small on her E attacks so flat increase gets increasingly better

also let's not forget the fact that LoFI is phat 96% cv sword

[opal surge]

I get like 3% better than finale for it in whimsy agg but ive seen calcs get like 10%+

[rugged sparrow]

what's the EM assumption

might be worth looking into

[opal surge]

4 substats total, atk sands is better than em

[rugged sparrow]

not even external EM buffs?

[opal surge]

the KQM guide also gets 3% so Im just gonna cope and say that the others are just wrong

[rugged sparrow]

I was under the impression you get 500+ at least due to Nahida + c2 Kaz/Suc

[opal surge]

Nahida doesnt burst in whimsy om

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

c2 kazuha assumer 🐳

[rugged sparrow]

well

I get c2 Kazuha, obviously other ppl too

[opal surge]

Ig its only good if you play tf clorinde

[rugged sparrow]

yeah need to check each calc assumptions

I hate it when ppl just put % diff and then gives 0 context

[clever lotus]

anybody could help out and tell me how to get in there?

[rugged sparrow]

need to do quest related to the Research Institute, just follow the quest line

[clever lotus]

thanls ^^

[clever lotus]

thanks V_V

[feral reef]

Should i just keep xilo on favge bros

Or any better non sig weapons

[dusty cape]

[feral reef]

Literally me

Honestly i should try for sig

Even tho ive failed twice in a row now

Excited for chiori sword!

[ashen viper]

Is staff of homa on par with arlecc signature? (For arlecc)

[opal surge]

No

Arlecchino signature is absurd

[viral rune]

Can any of you help me create a mono-geo team? I have most of the geo characters except chiori and navia

[foggy phoenix]

Which goblet is better for my Raiden electro dmg or atk

[wind bolt]

itto gorou albedo zl

[viral rune]

How in the world do I build gorou and albedo😭

[wind bolt]

4pc exile gorou 4pc gt albedo

[exotic harness]

can someone please tell me if this does anything because im genuinely stuck .

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078705916569981068/1151465418888855582/received_278156948319042.gif

[strange scarab]

Is this in Mount Damavand ruins beneath Passage of Ghouls the room with three everlight cells and a mora pile in it? its sort of a water distribution system connected to the big well on the other room that is in front of the yellow gadget called verity cell
do the torch puzzle on that room to unlock a common chest and the activation gadget nearby that will turn the wall in this room transparent so that you can connect the three everlight cells to unlocl the barrier and pick up the rock pile inside

[exotic harness]

thank you!

yes that one,

[zinc needle]

nahida, neuvilette c1, or zhongli?😭 should I just skip nahida

is nahida really a need in my account😓

[rugged sparrow]

no char is a "must" in any account, but Nahida would definitely be a great boost for your acc

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen is out? She's good with Neuvilette, possibly Hutao

[zinc needle]

an old pic i have her already

so idk if I should get nahida, c1 neuv, or zhongli

[keen stump]

Yes

[zinc needle]

man i will just wish on their banner

[zinc needle]

thanks

[keen stump]

Erm well if you don’t have either nahida or zhongli get them c1 neuv only give you interruption resistance so zhongli would be better in that regard but if you want the best Dendro nahida

So go for either nahida or zhongli whatever you need for your team

[opal surge]

C1 neuv "only" giving interruption resistance is quite disingenuous

It allows you to comfortably play xilo and provides him with his third talent stack

[rugged sparrow]

c1 Neuv becomes a lot more valuable after Xilo drops

[quaint fern]

Ofc neuvi gets more buffs

Hoyo not afraid to buff the dragon but too afraid to free us from xiangling

[keen stump]

And if you don’t have xilo ?

[opal surge]

Well the person you gave the advice to does have xilo

But without xilo C1 value is diminished but you can still play fischl/Xiangling instead of zl if U want

It also opens a space for mavuika in the future, should she be useful to neuv

[keen stump]

Apart from damage interruption and 1 stack it provides nothing

Also I’d rather have c0 zhongli than c1 neuv only

[opal surge]

Allowing you to not play ZL is not nothing

[quaint fern]

Zl usage is actually kind of rare these days

Only c0 Nuevi, ganyu, Yoimiya, mono geo (?) / geo teams in general

You usually have better options

[keen stump]

And having ZL to play in other teams as an option is better than damage interruption

[opal surge]

I think this entire argumentation is pointless because the person who asked for the advice has xilonen, so pretending that they don't to skewer your argument

Is nonsensical, is it not?

[rugged sparrow]

I caved in and pulled Uraku + Peak
my Wrio savings is dead but ig my cravings are sated

[opal surge]

Om

Did U want both

[rugged sparrow]

lowkey want Uraku only
fate pointed to Uraku, got Peak first
then was like "might as well"

[opal surge]

Peak is a good weapon to lose to at least

[rugged sparrow]

yeh it's a rly good banner

my meta ass can't resist

[keen stump]

Regardless if they do or not c1 isn’t needed in the same way ZL isn’t need when you know how to dodge

[rugged sparrow]

how do you dodge while you're charging up Neuv's beam

[opal surge]

We moved the goalpost one more time

[keen stump]

You don’t have to charge the beam

[rugged sparrow]

???

then how do you do DPS

[opal surge]

How did you move from pull zhongli to you don't need zl just dodge

Within one message

Just drop the argument it has no point

[rugged sparrow]

Neuv literally lost like ~25% of his whole DPR when one of his CA gets interrupted

[keen stump]

E and the beam is instan afterwards and constant

But then again by neuv is c6

[rugged sparrow]

you do know you can still get interrupted while you beam up right

[quaint fern]

Have you tried getting hit while holding his beam?????

[rugged sparrow]

with c0 Neuv

[quaint fern]

Bro you have c6

[opal surge]

This is

I think

[quaint fern]

That's his c1 doing his magic super armor for you

[rugged sparrow]

the types of whales with detached standard to other players

maybe sit this one out

[quaint fern]

Anyways let me cope

SURELY Mauvika is the ganyu buff we've been waiting for years for

[rugged sparrow]

[keen stump]

[keen stump]

For real?

[quaint fern]

How is ganyu's most consistent melt team still the same team we played in 1.2 😔

[haughty lotus]

You’re delulu vro, move on

[quaint fern]

I swear I'm sane

[keen stump]

Are you a ganyu main ?

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-26450094

[opal surge]

Who is ganyu

I haven't seen that characters banner since I started genshin

Is she playable?

[quaint fern]

😭

3.5, hoyo really did ganyu and she he dirty

Skins then no rerun LMAOOO

the poor ppl who bought when it was on sale but didn't have them

[keen stump]

Did you get the skin?

[quaint fern]

Who do you think I am

Ofc I broke f2p for my wife 🛐

[keen stump]

dw sens one day you’ll be able to acquire her

[keen stump]

Woah can I see

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-excited-oh-ohhhhhh-kanna-kamui-gif-13089481845460202864

[small blade]

okay

nice goblet

[keen stump]

Woah nice ayaka idk if it’s good or not though

[small blade]

I still havent used any

[keen stump]

Don’t worry one day you’ll be able to get a ganyu too

[small blade]

I want to get one but not sure which set

[keen stump]

Don’t give up

[haughty lotus]

Go to nymphs hell 😌

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[small blade]

might actually do that

I already have a good bs set for childe

[onyx grove]

something wrong isn't right

[keen stump]

it’s normally hard getting an on set goblet so as long as the rest of your artifacts are on set you can always use an of set goblet

[keen stump]

Where?

[onyx grove]

I struggle to get on set sands, not goblets 💀

[small blade]

I use 2pc 2pc on my childe and the goblet is already my offpiece. So i am not really sure on what to craft

[keen stump]

Strongboxes are useful for sands sometimes

[onyx grove]

eh

[keen stump]

If your goblet is already the off piece then you can just switch it for a hydro goblet from any set

[opal surge]

Prestige is internatter what the hell

[keen stump]

You can use your waste artifacts and then reroll them 4 waste for a chance at 1 on the set of your choice

[onyx grove]

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[small blade]

Since 2.2

[keen stump]

@sick quarry lurker

[onyx grove]

I know what it is (I don't get anything good for 99% of the times)

[keen stump]

Sometimes they give good stuff

[keen stump]

I got this , it’s not the best but acceptable

[opal surge]

Ancient lore

[onyx grove]

[dusty cape]

👴

[small blade]

this is still the best one i have

[onyx grove]

I use to get some pretty nice goblets like that, but not sands

[keen stump]

I know what you mean, I got a good nahida sands though

[onyx grove]

I have this...

[dusty cape]

the best one I have 😭😭😭

[opal surge]

What the

[keen stump]

Woah nice

[onyx grove]

last rolls always going to trash 😭

[keen stump]

nice

[dusty cape]

[keen stump]

On set electro goblet …… jealous

[onyx grove]

strongbox

[keen stump]

gib luck please

[small blade]

Recently got EL, still need to get an ER sand though

Maybe I should use my elixir on this

[keen stump]

How long did that take you

[small blade]

Well i mainly farmed emblem throughout 2.0 and started strongboxing it in 3.0

[lyric cargo]

maybe you'll get a plume, and off-piece the sands?

(not elixir the plume, ofc ^^)

[small blade]

Maybe, let me see

I really should set up optimizer again

[keen stump]

Why what did I do?

[small blade]

nvm, dont have a good emblem plume or any good ER sand somehow

[keen stump]

You think this would be good for raiden?

[sick mica]

[lyric cargo]

depends on weapon

[dusty cape]

[keen stump]

What happened?

[forest venture]

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-i-play-genshin-impact-running-gif-22461505

[keen stump]

Nu uh I don’t even have c6 Keaya yet

[onyx grove]

that sounds like a luck issue

[dusty cape]

sayonara, au revior, adues, adios, auf wiedersehen

[keen stump]

One day … when people share their luck I’ll be able to lose a 50/50

[quaint fern]

balls

[honest heart]

i just remembered

what happend to the special banner

i forgor what its called

[onyx grove]

chronical wishes or sum

[honest heart]

yea

[lyric cargo]

yeah, chronicled wish

[honest heart]

tf bro they forgot just like anime

[keen stump]

Is it coming back?

[lyric cargo]

iirc they didn't say how often they'll do one

maybe it didn't do well

[onyx grove]

nah, they probably want to do that 1 time per year

[honest heart]

💀

[dusty cape]

pretty sure they only did that so people would stop asking for mond character reruns like klee and eula

[onyx grove]

Shenhe and Wrio banner when?

[keen stump]

They should at this point expand the standard banner pool

[honest heart]

tbh there are soo many unobtainable weapons they should add to standard ro try to put them in so.thing bruv

[dusty cape]

[honest heart]

i want my dehyas weapon

[onyx grove]

they put it on the chronicled wish

[onyx grove]

tbh most of them are ass

[honest heart]

bro forgor tigenari's bow and dehyas claymore

rest are ass

[onyx grove]

Chinese gacha rules ig, they can't do that

[dusty cape]

tbh the only one I see as worthwhile is maybe pjc but they’ve been handing out crit rate for free through artifact sets so it’s kinda

[honest heart]

that isnt locked tho

[onyx grove]

crit dmg artifact set when?

[opal surge]

they definitely can expand the standard pool lol

[honest heart]

albedos banner has it no?

[dusty cape]

albedo switches between the butter sword and pjc

[onyx grove]

jade cutter? yeah

[onyx grove]

lego sword?

[honest heart]

they dont want to give us that cus we alredy hitting max dmg cap, some low life gonna be able to make amber hit 9.99 mill of they gave such a set

[dusty cape]

ye

[onyx grove]

lock it for nightsoul characters only

[lyric cargo]

I'd have thought lego sword would be the melusine claymore
but that's not a sword

[honest heart]

sticker sword

or just melusine sword/claymore

[onyx grove]

lego claymore is the one in ayaka's eternal banner

[lyric cargo]

as of fontaine, crit rate being capped seems to be part of how they make sure chars can't use sets and weapons they don't want them to

like Xiao with PJWS + Marechaussee will overcap
(and Homa is still the only crit dmg spear)

[opal surge]

its smart you make bp weapons good so people buy bp

[lyric cargo]

then there's Mualani and sac jade

[opal surge]

then you brick bp weapon because it overcaps crit rate

[honest heart]

ohh uea i got 100k skill hit on bennet hows my future dps bennet looking?

[opal surge]

so they go buy sig instead

[onyx grove]

just use the craftable

it's good enough

[opal surge]

good enough is an arbitrary standard

you could probably not use a weapon at all and itll clear

[onyx grove]

I hit +900k on asimon with that

[opal surge]

ok?

[onyx grove]

it's r1 only

but her weapon looks cute so I need it

[keen stump]

Which one?

[keen stump]

I don’t think there’s an option to unequip your weapon in game

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I think Sensi means equipping a lvl1 dull blade

[onyx grove]

shark

[opal surge]

the difference in DPR between her signature and ring r5 is almost as big as the difference between ring of yaxche r5 and no weapon at all

xdd

[onyx grove]

just use the 1* weapon

[onyx grove]

2x (no weapon) = signature r1
what a scam

[lyric cargo]

I see pulling sig weapons kinda like pulling constellations

chars at c0 don't really have much powercreep, but constellations have been getting better

[onyx grove]

nah drip >

[opal surge]

Signatures have gotten so much better too

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[onyx grove]

it depends on the character ig

[opal surge]

lately theyre all around 30%

emilie and arle are even higher

[onyx grove]

Arle without her sig is kinda sad

also the weapon is sick

[opal surge]

(Kinich Emilie Dehya Bennet)

[keen stump]

why are you looking at excel sheets

[uncut herald]

Anyone know if the commission pool still exists ie doing comms removes the comm from the pool?

[neon wave]

It does
Comms that give achievements are just prioritized and "ignore" the cycle/pool

Well, they are prioritized but it's not guaranteed that you'll get them, the chance is just higher

[lyric cargo]

damage calculation sheets

[haughty hawk]

ok i pull up

[haughty lotus]

Say less

[haughty hawk]

😮

https://tenor.com/view/hiii-cat-wave-cat-wave-hi-gif-174708314057938083

[haughty hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138156935665963053/1294755345616605348/1009457686439534712.gif

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/644001492721729566/1045084780649267210/cat-1-1.gif

[keen moth]

https://tenor.com/view/greed-apple-cat-cat-apple-cat-meme-gif-18100463515886680557

[haughty lotus]

🐴🤔
🪩

[haughty hawk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931613061213716530/1154520235068633238/togif.gif

[marble silo]

is it just me or is the meals tab in the inventory crazy not organized any more?

[keen stump]

[marble silo]

[paper cargo]

A friend of mine has a question.. they got xilonen kinda early and they were wondering, should they go for c1 or weapon? Are they worth it?

[marble silo]

i think go for the weapon

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably save, for now. C1 gives longer sprint duration for overworld, weapon is comparable to Freedom-Sworn?

c1 is also a stepping stone to c2, which is good but not as good as the best constellations (Furina c2, etc)

and the 4-stars on this banner aren't great, so I'd rather pull c2 on a future banner than now

[haughty lotus]

C1 is pretty bad, you’d only get it if you plan to get c2. Her weapon is good but pretty similar to freedom sworn. C2 is better than the weapon but costs more

[gaunt kettle]

would it make sense to max out my defense with xilonen's signature or just leave it at 3.2k

[opal surge]

you can just leave it at 3.2

healing beyond that (and before that without sig) only affects her healing, which is pretty whatever to increase as its quite decent anyways

[paper cargo]

Okay so I'm guessing potentially worth for supporting but since they're a relatively new player skipping is probably the best option

[opal surge]

I wouldnt pull support weapons as a new player

[sour birch]

beg to differ, candace is lovely

[gaunt kettle]

should i build c6 candace

[pulsar nebula]

Pspspsppsps what team for Xilonen and Chiori?

[sour birch]

anyway i got a new flower, is this lookin nice other than the circlet

[opal surge]

she only really has 3 teams, out of which 1 is actually bricked by her c6

[gaunt kettle]

which one

[sour birch]

yes (im biased, it's a labor of love and not a justifiable investment in other capacity except for some extremely niche teams)

[opal surge]

she has arle, nilougebloom and mualani

mualani is bricked by candace c6, at least in aoe, in ST its kinda wonky but works most of the time

[sour birch]

ok but candace nilou bloom is kinda cray ngl

[gaunt kettle]

i have so many c6's that i don't use

it's kinda sad

[sour birch]

i can't recommend it in good conscience to anyone who's not clinically insane

at least the variation i use

[opal surge]

er is kinda low, she can easily go up to 230-240 ER reqs without fav in solo geo

[opal surge]

do you have cons on either?

[sour birch]

she gets burst back tho

[pulsar nebula]

nope

just got both lol

[sour birch]

quite comfortably

[opal surge]

theyre kinda hard to play in the same team without cons

[pulsar nebula]

I do have Chiori’s signature tho

Oh I meant teams for the separate

not on the same team unless that’s a thing

[gaunt kettle]

is peak patrol good on chiori?

[opal surge]

Xilo can slot everywhere where kazuha could, but she cant do double swirl stuff, so shes worth for internat and worth for agg notably because she does less damage than kazuha, she can also be played with kazuha together if teamslotsa llow it

[pulsar nebula]

I have all geo characters if that makes it easier

[opal surge]

chiori is usually played in double geo core, with navia as onfield or with zl chiori as geo offfield core

she also helps monogeo a lot

[sour birch]

is neuv / xilo / kaz / furina the new best neuv team

[opal surge]

so itto chiori gorou zl for example

[opal surge]

yes

[sour birch]

fire, i now have that

i just need tome

[haughty lotus]

Yes

[pulsar nebula]

I do already have an Itto Gorou ZL Albedo team. Is chiori better than albedo for itto?

[opal surge]

she is better than albedo for itto yeah

she just does significantly more damage

[gaunt kettle]

should i build c6 collei or nah

or c6 layla

[opal surge]

most 4*s arent useful even at c6 if im being honest you can build them if you like them

I guess layla has more niche usage than collei, or becomes more relevant if you dont have zhongli

[gaunt kettle]

yuh ik but i just have a ton sitting there idk

i have c6 faruzan too, i heard it was good

[haughty lotus]

Depends on what teams you play

[opal surge]

She is, but you need an anemo onfielder for faruzan

[gaunt kettle]

what about c6 dori or sayu

[keen stump]

What alternative is there to xilo signature weapon?

[opal surge]

fav

[keen stump]

For real

[keen stump]

Sen consult your excel sheets

[unkempt willow]

team comp good ?

pulled for her bc i needed a healer/buffer

[keen stump]

Yep

[haughty lotus]

Why not

[keen stump]

Hi memes

[haughty lotus]

Hi 🍃

[keen stump]

Don’t want to waste material levelling it

[opal surge]

its the only weapon that actually does something on xilo other than her sig and freedom sworn

[haughty lotus]

Levelling favonius will never be a waste

And you can just leave it at lvl 1 on her if you really don’t need her burst lol

[keen stump]

What would freedom sworn do ?

[opal surge]

it would do freedom sworns effect

-# provided you burst every rotation or book her en2

[keen stump]

but it’s em

Plus kazuha needs it

[keen stump]

Is the bennet sword ?

[haughty lotus]

Bennett doesn’t use it

[keen stump]

What does bennet use then?

[haughty lotus]

A high base attack weapon

[keen stump]

[haughty lotus]

[sage sail]

alley flash, skyward, aquila, mistsplitter, anything of that nature

skyward gives him extra ER for just slightly lower than the highest base atk weapons

and alley flash is a 4* that has a higher base atk than a lot of 5* options

just not aquila and mistsplitter

[keen stump]

Why would I use mistsplitter on bennet rather give it to nilou

Wouldn’t even give him my spare mistsplitters

[keen stump]

It is the bennet weapon

[haughty lotus]

What is it

[keen stump]

Fav sword

[haughty lotus]

It is not

It has a low base attack

[neon wave]

[haughty lotus]

[sage sail]

SPARE MISTSPLITTERS?!

[haughty lotus]

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[sage sail]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-gif-15375505645985080248

[feral reef]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-klee-qiqi-diona-sayu-gif-17715258874385392334

[haughty lotus]

Good evening, vro

[keen stump]

Yeah aren’t you supposed to keep a few spare so you don’t have to constantly switch between characters

[feral reef]

Wtf its morning, i am the only real timezone btw

[haughty lotus]

You’re fake. You’re a mere figment of my imagination.

[sage sail]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

[haughty lotus]

Bingle dong

[feral reef]

No

[haughty lotus]

Proof?

[dusty cape]

nuh uh, it’s my world and you’re living in it

[keen stump]

How do I make my xiao better?

[neon harness]

Send build

[haughty lotus]

R5 Homa, 4pc mh, c3 Furina, c2 xianyun

[neon harness]

Om idk how to help with that, idk if the build is diff c6 with low coms

Artifacts look fine tho

[keen stump]

Nope

[haughty lotus]

You’re not kokomifan

[dusty cape]

🕵️

[violet cipher]

Ayaka/ShenHe/Furina/Charlotte; ShenHe and Charlotte run fav
How much er does Charlotte need?

[violet cipher]

what's the damage difference for this team if Ayaka uses MH instead of Blizzard strayer?

[river coral]

15% cryo damage and 4% cr less when using mh

[violet cipher]

k

[urban ivy]

what is the function of vetting the star on imaginarium theater?

[winter sierra]

Improvements suggestions 😭😭😭

[haughty lotus]

Raiden
-lvl 80/90
-lvl 90 weapon
-9 or 10 burst talent

• crit rate circlet
• electro goblet but it could depend

Mualani
-4pc codex, she doesn’t do skill damage
-switch widsith to r5 ring unless you like resetting

Kinich
-r5 weapon
-work on substats

[strange scarab]

🌪️

[strange scarab]

more flowers to afford the cache/companion afaik

[winter sierra]

ALR TYY

[dark shadow]

I met that capybara
What does disrupting attacks mean? When he's doing that dance

Like just attack it rapidly while its charging or?

[rugged sparrow]

use attacks with high poise/interruption

attacks that usually knock enemies over

like Jean's CA, Klee's CA, overload, etc

[bright cape]

noelle spin is sufficient

[lyric portal]

What’s a good ayaka team for floor 12 if I only have ayaka and kokomi but not shenhe and kazuha

[violet cipher]

Does C6 Candace mess up Mualani teams?

[plain ingot]

Is Furina and Arlecchino a good pair?

[quaint fern]

arle's only source of healing is her burst, you don't want to be draining her hp esp because her burst is something you don't want to be doing every rotation

[rugged sparrow]

it's a good pair if you plan to speedrun though

but not your average sustained abyss run

[plain ingot]

Ooo oki guys thanks ill just put furina on other teams

[zinc needle]

which? (the left one becomes 81% cr when 4pc maracheusse triggered)

or just stick with high cr?

[haughty lotus]

2nd

[zinc needle]

thanks

[violet cipher]

I run my Furina with Fleuve (pipe) but I also have Key. My teams I use Furina with are mainly Hu tao/yelan/Xianyun, raiden/yelan/jean, and Cholorinde/fischl/nahida.
If I'm not running a nilou team on the other side, should I switch furina's weapon to key? With the pipe, her er is 174

[violet cipher]

Also, I still haven't gotten this answered. I've heard it makes the teams a little better but I'm worried about the aoe messing with vapes.

[rugged sparrow]

it won't mess up with the vapes, but bring a dendro just so Candace c6 proc doesn't apply hydro aura to enemies

[violet cipher]

I was planing to bring Nahida anyway so it's fine.

[rugged sparrow]

yeh that's good then

[magic prairie]

Here’s my really poorly built current team since I haven’t played in so long, I’m looking for some advice to improve them

[strange scarab]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRq-sQxkvdbvaJtQAGG6iVz2q2UN9FCKZ8Mkyis87QHFptcOU3ViLh0_PJyMxFSgwJZrd10kbYpQFl1/pubhtml#

build guide

focus on er and def on your xilonen thats all

[analog rapids]

and 4pc scroll

[strange scarab]

are you ar45 or higher by any chance

yeah seems like it

dont give bennett fav

[magic prairie]

Ar50 yeah

[lyric cargo]

the atk buff Bennett gives scales with his base atk, which mostly comes from his weapon. (only a small portion comes from his level. artifacts don't impact it at all, atk% and flat atk don't increase it)

[magic prairie]

And I know I need to switch it off him, just trying to figure out how to get sapwood or get lucky enough to get literally anything else

[violet cipher]

For furina, should I run key without an er weapon if I don't have an er timepiece on her? (with key she'd have 128 er)

[rugged sparrow]

depends on team

if you can't get burst every rotation then it's pointless

[strange scarab]

just dont burst ez

[violet cipher]

I use her in a lot of teams but the potentially most problematic would be Chlorinde quickbloom.

[magic prairie]

Well I forgot I had this, so new weapon already yippee

[violet cipher]

so I have mualani/dehya/nahida/candace, what's the rotation there?

[rugged sparrow]

Dehya

Nahida EQ > Candace EQ > Dehya EE > Mualani rot

[violet cipher]

candace's q kept trigerring after Dehya EE and made the aura dendro.
I tried Xiangling instead and that kinda helped.

[rugged sparrow]

any other pyro option other than XL is cope for Mua

[lyric cargo]

I think just keep farming the MH / GT domain, until you get a good ER sands
or until you get good good flower, plume, goblet, circlet, and you can off-piece the sands

you could also craft one. 10% drop rate sands are pretty reasonable to craft
but unless you're done with MH, it's a pretty good domain

[midnight pond]

Struggling with abyss rn due to lack of dps with childe international and ganyu freeze (with zhongli) as my main teams

Hypothetically if i save for a neuvilette rerun, which 2 teams of childe/ganyu/neuv would be the best to use?

[strange scarab]

freeze fell off hard

[rugged sparrow]

I mean you can definitely still clear with Childe internat and Ganyu freeze though

[sharp saddle]

depends on the elemental check

[midnight pond]

maybe my artifacts are mid but floor 12 is a slog

[sharp saddle]

they have been more and more tanky yes

[rugged sparrow]

I mean...

surely those two teams have more DPS than a duo and a solo unit

[midnight pond]

god damn. is that c0?

[sharp saddle]

4.8 and 5.0 were pretty fodder abyss

[strange scarab]

Whale

[sharp saddle]

compared to say 4.7

[rugged sparrow]

Klee c0 + Skyward, Kaz c2r5 Fav, Wrio c1r1

what was 4.7 abyss again

[sharp saddle]

dual pyro lectors

the 7-wave 12-1

[rugged sparrow]

oh yeah

4.x abyss are pretty harsh for cryo units

[sharp saddle]

Coppelia Coppelius Coppelia Coppelius

[midnight pond]

are my chars just kinda mid?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[sharp saddle]

the Childe looks susge

the Ganyu a bit better i guess

[rugged sparrow]

Rust Childe bad, ratio is kinda meh
Ganyu crit ratio is but workable
how about your Xiangling though

Xiangling investment is equally important in Childe internat

[midnight pond]

artifact set is a work in progress (this was from v2.0 meta)

[rugged sparrow]

not even 4p EOSF

rough

it'd be a passable ratio with Catch but now it's just sad

wait not Catch, EOSF

[midnight pond]

o7, slowly working on catch rn

[rugged sparrow]

yeh pretty sure r5 Catch > low refine DBane

assuming ideal stats for both

[midnight pond]

here's bennett

do u think bennett ascension + talent lv 10 or farming xiangling 4pc is priority

[rugged sparrow]

Bennett low prio, XL higher prio

[sharp saddle]

that bennett is already usable

[rugged sparrow]

4p EOSF would be a huge upgrade

[midnight pond]

gotcha, will fix artifacts asap then

[sharp saddle]

get Wanmin Restaurant's owner's daughter up

[midnight pond]

ig ur right, 18% atk 2pc is basically useless with bennett snapshot

[rugged sparrow]

going from 18% atk to 50%+ ult dmg

[sharp saddle]

you're on the right track then

just listen to ou ecks dee

[sour birch]

yeah

[rugged sparrow]

ecks dee

[midnight pond]

o7 appreciate the advice

[sour birch]

hi

[rugged sparrow]

do you have other weapons for Childe

[midnight pond]

hopefully this means something

[sour birch]

my childe is pretty mid but here's the bare minimum of what you want

[rugged sparrow]

[sour birch]

but do 4-nymph's dream instead

[midnight pond]

stringless only other thing that seems usable

[sour birch]

i'm not really authorized to speak on ganyu as that's not my area of expertise

[quaint fern]

No prototypes?

[rugged sparrow]

I'm fairly sure Natlan craftable is pretty good for Childe

[sour birch]

i like rust over crescent personally

[quaint fern]

Idk how they rank, but natlan one should be good

[sour birch]

idk what natlan craftable bow is

[quaint fern]

Hamayumi might be a bit cope