#📌gimshim-help
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vroballs 

Bbg what
Does the McDonald code still work?
I don't know
There was a mc code, i thought they only did a collaboration with kfc?
they collabed with a lot of food and beverage brands
pizza hut liho tea hey tea oppo samsung cadillac
genshin cadilac
Beidou car
Who should I get, Kinich or Mualani?
all the examples you mentioned would have another unit building EM
so Nahida could run a crit build, with em + dendro dmg% + crit, her buff wouldn't depend on her building EM
both the goblet and circlet can be replaced by EM mainstat ones. which is better could change, depending on substats, I think.
if you want her to buff the active char's EM by the full 250 even in parties where nobody builds 1000em, you'd need her to build 1000em.
see the sections on off-field, on-field, nilou bloom in her kqm article. they explain it well:
https://keqingmains.com/q/nahida-quickguide/#Artifact_Stats
I don't think Kinich's kit (with numbers) is officially known?
maybe wait until closer to his release. there will likely be content creators allowed to release videos on him before his banner.
we'll also know the 4★ chars on his banner
can you tell who will be in the banner with him?
not yet, I believe the other 5★ is known
what about mualani?
yeah, no 4★s yet according to the fandom:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Kinich#Availability
the 4★s on her banner are Bennett, Kachina, Xinyan
Bennett is good, Kachina constellations wouldn't be bad
Xinyan is pretty bad
no no no, about how useful mualani is
ah
she's okay, about the same strength as most other on-field dps.
the only real standout there is Neuvilette
she has some problems with consistency, from what I heard. Having to reset sometimes.
her biggest utility over Neuv is if you want a unit for overworld movement that's also just a pretty good dps.
the same will likely apply to Kinich, though.
😭

i got kazuha on acc too
just dont know for what i should spend primo
she also strongly prefers Xiangling right now
I suspect that'll be the pyro archon once they come out, I'd be surprised if they're not meant to work well together
can you take a screenshot of your char pool? https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/m.html
give me a sec
js char that i got?
if you're currently struggling with content and don't have too many on-fielders yet, I'd maybe consider pulling
if not, I'd save for the archon and maybe one other upcoming char so you have some reserves
every char, yeah
can i use xiangling with mona
Ohh
there are usually better options than Mona for most teams
wat about chongyun
oh, that's a lot. I don't think you need to pull, unless you want someone for Natlan overworld or really like the character 🙂
kinich looks good, but i dont know how useful he is
I'd mostly miss off-field hydro (Furina / Yelan) on your account
also Nahida or Baizhu, to support Alhaitham if you use him
nahida is good. but i see her banner for 1 time(when she released)
Chongyun can work with Xiangling. It seems you don't have a lot of options yet?
the main thing about Xiangling is she requires a lot of energy recharge to get her burst back. especially in teams without Bennett
no i dont have alot of options i only have like 6 or 7 characters
i have bennett i hate him he destoryed my hope and dreams
but he's a 4★, you can't have lost 50/50 on him?
i rolled him too much
ah
That’s a good thing, it’s not like the other 4 stars on the banner are good
getting his constellations isn't terrible, tbh
i am just desperate for a decent team
can you screenshot your chars as well?
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/m.html
if it's not many, I guess you can mention them in text
it's just easier to look at and see combinations with images, imo
whats this link?
it's a way to display your chars, with levels and constellations
hoyolab is by the same company that makes genshin (hoyoverse)
am trying to log in
here's a more positive take on her: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=InKzaPKuERM
Timestamps:
0:00 quick showcase
0:22 what I wanted to try
1:25 how to build xiangling
2:08 why sucrose works well
2:29 what barbara actually does
2:50 Cinder City artifact
3:43 kachina
5:08 abyss chamber 1 (kachina) 27s
5:41 chamber 1 (barbara) 31s
6:16 chamber 2 50s
7:12 chamber 3 40s
7:56 builds and gear
Music tracks: massobeats - gingersweet...
btw with this pulls i got a 100% chance to get event legendary
hows traveller 5 star
watching it again, there seems to be an 8s cut in the fight at the start, making it appear more smooth (skipping the spawn time for the enemy ads and skipping right to finishing them)
i just clicked into it and yeah as soon as the first E ends it cuts to the end of the cd after the minions spawn and then q -> e
technicality, I'd consider them a 4★
just like some battle pass weapons are closer to 5★ than 4★
for anything that's not actually on a banner, the star rating is kinda arbitrary
about my team comps
??
uh ?
he's still a 5 star
i mean rarities aren't fluid, that's a weird thing to say
utility and strength are not necessarily bound to rarity
but it feels weird to just seriously assign characters rarities different from what they are
especially when talking to someone who doesn't know enough about the game to understand that
Do xiangling Bennett fischl flex for now. You don’t have enough to make a fully synergistic team but those 3 are very good and flexible for later on
fuck i just lost the game
flex?
so now you all lose the game too
Flexible slot. Kaeya/lynette/whoever
I'd say the standouts are:
Bennett, Xiangling, Fischl, Kachina
Fischl has the advantage of not being burst reliant. But also, no great reactions. People are assuming Chevreuse might be on the Raiden banner again. If that's true, she would go well with Bennett Xiangling Fischl.
I'd lvl20 and ascend every char once, that'll give you a few more standard banner wishes
It goes away after 20 or smth pulls
to phrase that differently: I think rarity on units that aren't ever on banners is purely optical.
In terms of strength, Traveler's kit is more comparable to a 4★.
Factually a 5 star 
i mean? keqing was on a banner
idk it just feels weird to classify things thisway
in terms of strength traveler ranges from a decent 4* level (dtrav) to a 3 star aloy-tier character (hydro traveler)
but those are just comparisons fundamentally traveler is a 5 star
standard 5★s are still from 50/50s on banners, yeah (and they get a single banner at the start as of Sumeru it seems, though I wouldn't focus on that)
traveler also doesnt have 5* cost in speedruns, not that the cost system is perfect
btw do u have any tier lists about characters?
genshin tier list 
there are characters that are widely useful and characters that are less useful but (almost) everyone has a niche
js need to know who good rn
there are some specific characters that are kinda grossly overpowered
but there's not an even S-F spread for a tier list
there's just an S and varying degrees of A
both of the rate up characters rn are pretty good btw if ur curious about that
worth noting that uhhhhh aloy, hydro traveler, and dori are unequivocally asscheeks and i can't think of any time they'd be useful, but other than that that's it
also if you want to send your roster i can pick standouts if u like
I've seen some, they mostly have value when whoever's making them talks about the char a bunch while making it, in a video.
but genshin is more about teams than chars
there are plenty of characters that are bad compared in their role
just because all can technically clear doesnt excuse some characters doing 2/3rd of others in terms of team DPS
but you can find a niche for them
well i guess dps can have a tier list
Sure, I can also find a niche for dori
but dps characters dont really matter
bet
dori c6 on field furina quickbloom is better than some limited DPS
in terms of teamdps
better than quite a few actually
what limited dps's best team is on field furina quickbloom
well i guess maybe that specific team might be better than some of cyno's teams

what does dori specifically do better than other chars, im curious now
she heals for furina
it's like Noelle in Furina teams afaik?
you kinda want c6, I think
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noelle doesnt go in furina teams, furina goes in noelle teams
marechaussee hunter dps noelle generally
depends entirely on your account, and we have no info about Kinich
How do i get this pyroculus?
isn't there like a jumping pad for Koholasaurus around that spot
Yeah got it just now thanks
rip
Guys a friend of mine wants to play Genshin on his PS5, what should he do to log in to his account there?
Thts good🙂
i've seen multiple people 40 cv HP% obsidian circlets atp
where mine 
don't you secretly had one in your inventory 
I have these (I am going to use them as artifact exp for creating elixirs)
failed whale attempt
the issue isnt the team options you have available it's the fact that a lot of your good character options are not leveled
so even if I give you a team now, by the time abyss resets you wont have them built unless you got a ton of fragile resins stocked
They have good builds, I just don’t have enough resin to beat the bosses
character ascension and level is part of a good build
you can have insane neuv artifacts but if he's lv 60 he aint gonna do good damage
Oh he isn’t built at all, I just pulled him because I liked his design, I haven’t had time to build him
What teams could I use tho 😞
you're not gonna get 9* most likely and if I restrict to lv 80+ your options are very limited
I got 9* on all the other floors tho
there's a massive difference in HP
I can take it 😈
first half raiden, bennett, xiangling, yelan second half hu tao, xingqiu (wont do anything chamber 1), fischl, thoma
gl
TYY

I got 7 stars 
I stopped levelling it there, it was no longer good enough for an off-piece
and I don't have a char that wants the set yet
it'll lie around until someone needs it
honestly that's pretty good
I expected fewer
Yeah u have a fountain of artifacts which r lieing down
I got one star on the first one because of the hydro monster, it took so long for no reason
oh you can run chamber 1 again with different teams
how good are you are you at avoiding tulpa attacks?
because tao, xiangling, bennett, sucrose would be high damage. might be rough to play though with a c0 tao
first half you can do nahida, xingqiu, yelan, raiden (lv 90 would be ideal here). PMA is pretty low pressure you dont really need a healer/shielder
hyperbloom raiden build with triple EM
if can't dodge, use kuki with a melee build for healing
they dont have kuki in their pic so if they have her she's lv 50 or less
and tbh you shouldnt struggle with survivability for PMA
you can just hit reset if needed
dodging tulpa with c0 tao 
there aren't that many attacks you need to actually dodge in melee range
just doing scuffed combos with more normals then usual is an option as well
they managed to 7* with underleveled characters i have faith in their gamer skills
Oppa will handle it anyways

Skill issue 
Yoimiya abyss 
Muarillion
(his furina is c6)
dont you also want c4 for energy
🐳
Oh right yeah C4
Mua my beloved
Nxt week abyss reset
Im sure next abyss will be a yoimiya abyss too
Every abyss is a Yoimiya abyss if you try hard enough

ignore the energy and extra E damage true

Btw, I only just now realized, am I stupid or does defense, like the actual stat and not damage reduction on enemies literally not do anything?
Its not in the damage formula at all, or?
it affects the damage you take and can deal
enemy defence affects the damage you can do to them I mean
Oh it just so happens to line up that enemies have lvl*100 defense
Or somewhere around that number

this one no
should be
I tried using a kokomi dps team and surprisingly it did better than the Raiden
nice
someone help i cant get the last green or orange ring 😭
moastly orange cuz for the children of echos i cant get the res of the chets
Ah so I was close enough
Just one sign off
I got these saved in my phone, for quick calculations:
defMul assumes lvl100 enemies, for abyss floor 12
I have the formulas in my sheets, I just was wondering where actual defense would slot in against a specific enemy
in my head enemy defense would vary more than it apparently does

for stuff like this, seeing what damage increase 20% def shred would give
Also this is maybe a silly question but bennet doesnt get his attack buff on his burst damage does he
not sure, I assumed no
dont think so
the field has to actually 'pulse' to provide the atk buff and healing
pulse, tick, whatever word you wanna use
recommended artifact set and team for tighnari?
hellooo need help, need to farm for lakelight lilies for furinaa 👉 👈
you can ask in genshin impact official server since there are more people there
okee thank you :>
So with Genshin on android
Is it possible to sync a controller and play? Or is it just not possible
Does redhorn stonethresher add a 40% def MV to NA/CA's, or does it add to final damage 
Thank you mr doe
Thank you mr doe
not possible
Do we lose more artifact exp if we sell it instead of using it as food directly?
by sell you mean turn it into mora?
(I'm confused)
you mean salvage it and turn it into exp bottles?
Ah yes, that one
You can do it without loss, but they made it a bit of a math puzzle
Exp from artifacts comes in multiples of 420.
1★ → 420 (1x)
2★ → 840 (2x)
3★ → 1260 (3x)
4★ → 2520 (6x)
Bottled exp comes in multiples of 2500.
Any extra exp that isn't enough for a bottle, is lost
leftover exp is saved for next time, if you actually click the button to salvage
So the smallest amount of artifact exp that fits neatly into bottles is:
420 * 125 = 2500 * 21 = 52500
I select a bunch of fodder until I have 52500 exp. With that, nothing is wasted.
Oh so they combine total exp and convert to bottle, not individually?
the total exp is displayed in the bottom right
so you can just drag and select until you have 52500
yeah
Thanks you for the tip 

guys what should my rotation be for this team: Neuvi, fischl, beidou, kazuha
I don't know the rotation, but I heard the difficulty is swirling both hydro and electro
it is
in theory, the auras can coexist and can be swirled at the same time
cuz kazuha's dmg bonus only lasts for 8s
and if i apply hydro with neuvi then swirl with kazuha, im still gonna have to do the skills of fischl and beidou
so my dmg bonus from kazuha will end
and i cant start with fischl and beidou or else kazuha will swirl electro
the problem, I heard, is that Neuvilette doesn't apply a strong hydro aura
so depending on the time it takes, it can happen that by the time you go neuv → fischl → kazuha, the hydro aura is gone
but i dont need electro dmg bonus, i need hydro bonus
yea
if maybe i do fischl, beidou, then use 1 charged attack with neuvi, then right after theres hydro and no electro, i can swirl with kazuha maybe
the solution I choose is to run him with Furina; she can supply the hydro to swirl, no matter that the 4th unit is
yea but no furina 😭
too bad they make him not work with Xingqiu and Yelan
Wait what yhis exists since when
i was asking myself the same question just now
one of the many things the 5.0 update did
so now, when we don't get a good piece for a while and end up at 1800 / 1800, we don't have to level random things
I imagine it happens more for people who do farming routes,
since those give a lot of their exp in 1-star and 2-star artifacts
which take up more space
are there any smaller incriments?
any smaller multiple of 420 isn't neatly divisible by 2500, so there'll be some loss
like 6x 420 = 2520
you'd get a small bottle worth 2500 exp and lose 20
ah okay ty
I don't think losing 20 / 2520 = 0.8% of the exp is that bad
but usually when I salvage to make space, I easily have the 52500 to do it completely without waste
and it's also faster to do a lot at once
im not anywhere near the 1.8k limit just wanted to know for better overvieqw
part of the reason I'm close to it is that I keep pieces that might be good for supports like Xianyun / Nilou / etc
4-liners with ER + one other substat (EM or atk%, hp%, etc)
but I don't roll them until I actually need that kind of artifact
(managing 1500 artifacts when the only tags are lock / no lock is also a nightmare ^^)
me who just rolls them so i can get it out of the way
reason i got this its useless to me now but that just means ive less 0+ artifacts to worry about
I pulled Xianyun and leveled these:
at least the goblet wasn't leveled before
(I'll only use the circlet if I'm not using her for plunge, like with Raiden Yelan Furina she'd just be a Jean replacement + ttds)
hb dang
i just started playing again can someone tell me what weapon i can use for her or if there's one i can craft
white tassel
is it craftable? i only have the black tassel
no u get it from liyue chests
ohh okay ty
what quest do i gotta do to unlock whatever the hell is happening here
Aranyaka
So the entirety of the Aranara questline
im gonna actually blow up omg
who to choose in the free 5 star for beginners?
if there's only like 2 dendroculus there i'm skipping it and only unlocking the vanarana with the onion in it
Send your character list
literally only xinyan😭
🤨
i just start playing
I mean since you have no other characters, what you pick shouldn't really matter. 
Guys. Is there anything to do here?
should be a puzzle, you can google "genshin impact interactive map"
set it to display all the Natlan stuff and see if it displays something there
I was already exploring using that.. think i might have already taken the remarkable chest that was there... Thanks tho

can we only use artifact transmuter once per patch?
to craft new ones
or is the limit only for one type of artifact
you can craft 1 per set per patch
Whats better homa or arlecchino weap. Versatility included
arlecchnios weapon is not great on anyone else, homa is a decent statstick for most polearm users
thanks
best team to showcase clorindes damage ?
Probably c6 sara kazuha nahida
Yes, though you can have plenty of sigils leftover
hello! i'm trying to run this team, but dont have furina. i'm currently using Mona instead. who would be a good replacement?, guess it doesnt let me post my pic after. alhaitham, shinobu, nahida , and wanting furina* but using mona instead
Yelan would be ideal
Xingqiu works, but you lose some personal damage from alhaitham. Other than that you can also run fischl as the last slot and go pure spread
i have just not been a fan of fischl 😦 i tried. like her character in game, just not the play. i'll try xingqiu, but knowing i can fit yelan instead of furina is good to know. gives me an option to pull on if it takes awhile for furina to come back
Food thoms?
Fischl is just throwing her bird on and swapping out though
I need help with building my mualani, I somehow got lucky and got c1r1 and wonder what stats to go on the artifact
You don't see her much, even for her burst you swap out of it to cancel the long animation
Het attack bases off from HP
HP, hydro, crit
4pc new natlan dps set
So HP hydro damage bonus and crit rate and damage. There's a specific artifact set that also boosts it
Somewhere in Natlan
Alright thanks, would it be better if I ran an hp circlet instead of crit since her sig gives a lot and her c1 scales even more off hp?
I'd say depends on how much crit rate and crit damage you already have if it's not that much the circlet can add some more but if you already have enough maybe
Crit circlet is generally better
It can heavily also boost your crit rate and damage so it's always useful
Alright then thanks
🤭😌
need advice for my friend's heizou they only hitting 2k
he's c2
Just send Enka card next time, what’s the team and talent levels
Use atk sands and anemo goblet for dps
triple crowned, team: lynette furina qiqi
Do you have their entire roster? Remove qiqi and Lynette, faruzan, benny would be good
How do I get in here 
I guess the key is somewhere to the bottom left, from where you stand and face go forward to the right
does kachina need def for anything?
thank you!!!!!!!!1
Can i consider her as built or i should farm more? (Support btw)
For her almost negligible damage sure. Just give her 4pc scroll
What should be the rotation for this team?
If er is enough for ur team, build is good
is he good as he is or do i gotta do some more things? 
have you optimizer’Ed ur build, prolly should be going with a crit dmg circlet,
optimizer'ed
im looking for a crit damage circlet rn
i had one but the substats suck
doubt it be better than the last circlet
i have to keep farming that set then, huh. 
the goblet is unfortunate (3 useful subs on an off-piece)
but that's something you can improve even if you stop farming his set. the circlet would be the reason to keep going.
do you still stand to gain improvements from golden troupe?
I'd have suggested trying to craft a MH hydro goblet (using the new artifact converter gadget) and maybe use an off-piece circlet
but if you still stand to gain improvements for Golden Troupe, it might still be quite a resin efficient domain
🥲
good start i guess
it's just the artis
so farm more ig
Start off with minimum lvl 9 NA. Leave skill and burst at 6
i mean i've been farming for mine since he released and i finished maybe like a few months ago and he's still mid
9/9/9 gang wya
3 more damage on skill lesgo
im gonna crown na when i get his weapon
10/2/2 😔
10/3/3 
I always end up leaving talents all odd numbers or all even numbers 
10/7/7
then I noticed Navia wants the same material 
For useless/near useless talents I usually leave them at 1 or 6 but ig I forgot about him 
I'm going to need a new circlet and flower when I get his sig
okay ! 
I leveled his to 7 because events and chests kept giving me his talent books
but then I pulled Navia and any extras went to her
ill have to build either wanderer or clorinde whenever im finally finished with neuvi
I had a fun time pulling navia clorinde and neuv since they like sharing materials 
10-1-1>
(I was too lazy to farm for more talent mats, addicted to the artifact domain life)
What’s lyney at
Lvl 80

6/1/1?
me fr except now i run talents when i get tired of the same arti domain
Lemme check holdup
i used to be the no talents ever gang

I only run talents when there's an overflowing mastery event
they give so many books via events and chests, seems better to wait and be patient
(since I'm not having trouble clearing)
oh yeah i also had a quick question about what free five star to choose !
Better than I expected tbh
What the 
@haughty lotus why didn’t it reply smh
@neon harness Idk smg
no artifacts 
@haughty lotus :ba-:
Send a screenshot of your character list 
Ideally with constellations
tighnari
😌 no one has artifacts rn, im doing optimizer and reorganizing all of it

Thighnari if you use him
qiqi for the revive no scam
False…
Could also get keqing or dehya if you just want a new character. The constellations on the ones you have aren’t that impactful, other than tighnari getting quite strong at c6
ohhh i see
okay thank you!
im kinda overwhelmed by the amount of unbuilt characters i have already so i gotta stop getting new characters 
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ehy whele react smh
Me 🖐️
False
I actually played him in theater this time, and he carried when c6 Ga Ming couldn't ^^
vs Visharp and Baptist
wdym, anyone can carry c6 gaming
I had the full vape buff against lector, and Ga Ming failed to finish it within the time limit 
I think the team was.. Ga Ming, Furina, Yelan, Thoma
Bennett was out of uses
who's the healer imo
all healers used up 
this is the nature of scuffed theater teams
Yaoyao and Barbara were the only ones for all 10 battles (and Bennett I guess)
maybe I'll plan ahead more, next theater
the team that beat lector was
Tighnari, Furina, em Raiden, Thoma 
ended up being less scuffed than the Ga Ming one
I have no idea how the theater works mb 
you know those events, where each char can only be used twice?
it's 10 battles, so roughly speaking you need to build 5 separate teams out of these
and it's randomized and you can't reuse characters
i was using nilou nahida candace barbara or smth like that by the end
i was like 1s too slow on iniquitous baptist
retried until success?
I regretted using up Kirara early and having to shield Tighnari with Thoma 
could've also saved up a healer to go with Furina
though Yaoyao takes too much field time, it would've needed to be Barbara
then she'd need ER to burst every rotation, despite her nonexistent particle gen
no because i missed the window and now if i want that last star i have to redo the whole theater
oh, you're going after stars
I missed one as well, hit continue by mistake when I meant to retry
I'm farming fatui pyro agents. So just wanna know does the adventurer handbook show all the available locations of an enemy?
And how many days does it take for them to respawn? 3 days?
no, and 12h iirc
iirc the handbook shows the respawn time correctly
idr if they count as elites cuz that'd be 24h
doesn't list all of them, though, unless that changed with 5.0 (I don't think so)
can also kill the Natlan local legend to get more knives
Alright
And how many days does it take for local specialities to respawn?
48h
interactive map should be able to show all locations
Yeah. Thank you guys.
for local specialties, someone said the new "go to collect" feature shows all or at least nearly all
Yep that's true.
46h after harvest
chill
Alt f4
which region gives most primos from exploration
primos/time should be Natlan/fontaine/chenyu vale
Could give me 3 years and still wouldn't finish sumeru
I cant access shop on ps
picture
time to delete acc, bricked fr
you are better than 97% of population
I think the part of sumeru desert closest to fontaine is also quite good
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Offering_System#The_Gift_of_Amrita
gives 600 primos = 3.75 wishes
The offering system in Chenyu Vale gives no primos, though it does give 2 purple fates at level 7
I have R1 Serpent Spine for Navia, but what weapon should I choose from the BP? A weapon for someone else or just get R2 Spine?
wolf fang is quite good on several characters, but outside of that nothing really comes to mind apart from serpent spine refines
or another copy for gaming if you wanna play him 
then again, both navia and gaming often use bennett so you could just swap the weapon and not play both at the same time
Talking Stick 

Unrelated but have you played ZZZ or HSR? 
I've played ZZZ since launch, I quit HSR in like 1.2 or 1.3 though
I can even low UID flex in ZZZ
Same
I have a 15 UID in ZZZ I rerolled account late into day 1 
I win 
oh wait is EU 15 by default
Yes
let me check third number 
wait ur uid is so low wtf lemon
He got in minute one
I told you it was a flex
Lucky
I was there as soon as it dropped with faster internet cuz I had to reload some stuff
I didn't reroll but my luck started off good
Then went to shit
Got Ellen early, Lycaon in first 10 pull on Standard
M1 Ellen 
Are you skipping Jane's wengine then?
Yeah i have 76 pulls rn and looking to pick up caesar and burnice
willing to swipe a little but dont wannaa go for engines for now
Fair
Ya its pretty good
The biggest craftable and alternatives to sig increase so far is on Jane though
Ellen it's like 20%, Zhu Yaun it's like 10%, Jane it's close to 40%
Came here without context and I was like who tf is Jane
do i need to improve anything aside from talents/lv90
compared to craftable at P5*
some more crit rate & em would be nice
how much for both
well ideally you cap crit, though you will be pretty close already with ascension
alr
EM is really just a more the better (without dropping other offensive stats disproportionally) its a bit on the low end
bruh ive been playing for like 20 levels now and im still confused abt everything 😭
Maybe I'll start going for them once my character roster looks a bit more fleshed out
I'll probably grab DSV on her rerun
Makes sense
The combat system is a bit complicated to be fair
More complicated than Genshin
grace sig is not bad on jane it activates on the first frame of skill and you can cancel it with dash
if you happen to have it
so like, for stun and supports, i only level their switch and ex skills or what?
Nah it depends too much on the character and how you use them
There's no one answer to this
I don't have a single s-rank wengine 

im not pulling for a while, so i just gave myself the 50 pulls for a 5 star and thats it, i hope i can do endgame

Im just using BP for now tho I think its technically not better than the craftable at low refine
Depends really, if you don't pull new characters you will probably struggle with endgame
rn my team is koleda piper and lucy
But the DPS checks at the moment are low enough that you can say brute force resistant enemies with a strong DPS and still S rank shiyu 7 of the critical node
and prob will be for a long time

I recently failed a comission that was ice resistant with m1 ellen 
dont be giving me the frog

It's actually not a bad team considering your options are limited
I used this in 1.0 before Zhu Yuan released for my second shiyu team
This reminded me, I gotta level my Soukaku
when i get sokaku i will have 9 characters in total
for a while
Holy the 1 second buzzer beater 
Love how everyone is IK 52
(Im IK53 right now)
Also 53
omw quinto cage on Lycaon
Yeah the thing is just like Genshin you need 2 teams for late-game content


cunning hares team on the other side fr
And weakness and resistances are very impactful in ZZZ. They affect damage, daze and anomaly buildup, so you may need more than 2 teams at some point too
Im spread too thinly by building 3 teams rn, ive been farming wengine level mats for the past 6 days

firefly has been treating me badly and doing bad damage, i should find a new team
and my dot team does bad damage 😢
me with 4 
my acheron team is good tho!
That's what happens when you pull every limited 
Except Qingqi apparently
Pulled Zhu Yuan but skipped Qingyi 
or save for longer
In ZZZ?
Just pull now and try to get Jane so you have a strong DPS 
yes, after i did my 50 pull s rank ive not pulled at all, and wont for a while
I think its important to pull a main DPS sooner rather than later in ZZZ
Yeah
Powercreep is gonna happen sooner or later 
the difference between limited and standard DPS is quite high
ive tried the 3 methods of pulling in genshin hsr and zzz now
(except mega high invest bilibili billys for some reason)
hsr: pulling strategically
Genshin: pulling whoever adhd says yes to
ZZZ: no pull
Dunno if it'll even matter if it does happen but if it does then Jane is somewhat resistant to this being an issue
Cuz her M1 and M2 are goated if the DPS checks ever become so high 
Best character for vertical investment 
vros should i go back to my ratio team and DITCH firefly
jstern has some good videos on ZZZ, that's where I learned a lot of mechanics
Written guides however, don't think so
I kinda just read and asked around
ok guys can u at least tell me what the story is 😭
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What's the cap on Lucy's ATK buff? 
Watch this
thanks vro
Depending on how theoretical you want it to be https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSo82Ac3HqdI_G5_BoAqYJToK6LX4FGLPJxjPZEbhMQ-wSyFyxDFl1dr8i5czcCLJmYwxWfsXkCXN6v/pub this kind of explains a lot
600 iirc
but its damage formula stuff
yes i checked this, it is 600
I worded it wrong, I meant the amount of ATK she needs to cap 
I knew it was 600
doesnt it depend on her core skill
Oh it depends on her EX skill level
or ex ig
Not core skill
perhaps i treated you too harshly, ratio
sokaku is core
truly a gimshim-help moment

It's alright, there's no genshin askers
I mean none of us need help in Genshin 

we're helping a ZZZ asker instead
We're the elpers
ok i have a ZZZ ask
Here's a ZZZ question, why does my drive disc luck suck ass?
how many main story chaps are there rn
my luck on drive disk has been pretty okayge
3
3 chapters + 2 interludes technically
ok guys u think i should pull for jane then? or just stay pure and limited pull less
Yeah pull Jane
if you like her I think you should pull
up to you
well she does have that gyatt
Getting limited S rank DPS' early on will make Shiyu progression 10x easier
Yeah your second team will suck ass the first few shiyus you do
so the better your first team is the more likely you are to clear
ok guys watch this, triple 5 star from first 10 pull
I've been farming this set for so long 
what is this 
ill just save after jane ig
Jane is also like, cheaper to get to a usable level than some of the other limited S rank DPS' because she's an Anomaly DPS (skill levels are less important and there's fewer good substats for disks)
Ellen
where is your crit damage 
is that like reaction dps in jimshin or smth
Non-existent cuz I'm on a CR Disc 4
Yeah basically

M1R1 Ellen is just bricked in terms of building
ok guys i got 20 pulls lets get this jane too ez fr
It's fine
Core skill carries
This is what it looks like with CDMG
i got emo seth, is he good
Good with Jane 
We're just used to looking at deep sea visitor stats so his look bad 
do you have a standard 5* from beginner banner already @feral reef
He's very good with Jane but outside of her not really... Maybe some kind of Grace shock team
koleda
Seth functions at lvl 15 Core A
I don't really see Rina over Lucy tbh unless you have Rina mindscapes
u guys think as a new player i will be able to guarantee jane or nah?
You should be able to
You have a good chance if you play the game a lot
I think rina and lucy are sidegrades, I dont like lucy much at m0 though 
Rina is more involved to get good uptime on though
Do any of those actually matter? I've read them and they seem... unimpressive
Yeah that's fair
Except M6, her M6 looks good for shock teams
i like my jane with seth and grace
which bangboo does jane ues
M1 is pretty impactful
Officer Cui or Luckyboo
Bangboos just rob your characters of resources, don't level them
Cui is one of the few that actually does decent damage tbf
Amillion my goat
One amillion damage
Yeah Amillion is the other one
ok rn on 24 pity for jane, hope i get her
if i miss out on that gyatt, i will cry many tears
You have like 2 weeks
You got a bunch of pulls available from content
Should be fine if you play the game actively
At least to get 1 pity idk about 2
Avocaboo my beloved
🥑
whale
Check him PC
I'm so tempted to use one on an atk% disc 6 for my ellen but I can just feel that it's gonna be horrible 
That's fair honestly
I'll do more runs later and then test my luck using a tuner
Maybe I'll get an ice disc that rolls only crit 
got this without tuning but the rolls are kinda
(Woodpecker)
at least it doesn't roll CR cuz Im literally overcapping
at least its pen 
kinda whatever if I don't have pen% buffer though 
it's good if I decide to run Pen% disk5 + 2p Puffer + Rina but 
effort + too specific setup
is manual chain attacks worth
Personally, no
never used it
I use it 
If you wanna cancel chain attacks just use the mouse wheel
I get annoyed when i have to skip chain attacks on trash mobs
its kinda wonky sometimes tho ngl
me skipping chain during inferno reaper with Stun resonia:
They're new and the default is much easier to use imo
why want skip?
thats true
They take forever and are sometimes a dps loss 
depending on the match up it's a waste of time
I think early on chain attacks do like insane damage tho right
before you build characters
no idea
I forgor already
my chars dont even have disks 🔥
It's been two months and we all already forgot 
default stun duration is like 12s-ish, then reduce that with whatever chain attack you launch
some chars with fast + beneficial chain is welcome (Nicole being the prime example)
And then you have Ellen and Soukaku with the longest chain attacks in the game
At least Ellen's is good
True
Ellen got cucked hard by hitlag 
Soukaku's chain though sucks ass I only use it when I need it for a Vortex stack

at least its not seth
Dude Seth's drives me up a wall

guys what is a hollow
I completely forgot about his
the big black spheres
yeah but what is it?
Like lorewise?
yes
It's basically an area that's been invaded by ethereals and they just pop up
it just appeared out of the blue, from the moon and to the earth iirc?
They are dangerous to regular people
what actually is the lore of ZZZ
I think bigger hollows can "birth" smaller hollows
all i know is they have big gyatt
and it corrupts pretty much anything with some level of sentience / intelligence
but hollow zero definitely just popped up
wjat so its just the abyss
Kinda
well it affects technologies too so there's that ig
Its a post-apocalyptic world where there is a big settlement 'New Eridu' but people are still combatting the Hollows
which is why despite the futuristic setting, ppl still use old technology 
splatoon fr
i got muted from ZZZ discord 😢
Yeah I see quite a few people in this discord who are here due to getting muted in another
cuz i said edge-ing
Any context behind that?
was an auto mute
just from saying the word
Come on we don't want a repeat of the past
narc shit fr
guess they arent a fan of it
literally 1984

my piper team fire tho
You can think of Piper as budget Jane
She basically does the same thing but with less damage and without the QoL from being able to dodge often etc without losing a lot of damage
I mean yeah what can you do
She'll still be the goat in my heart
Lycaon surely won't be powercrept 
I think the only ones who are pretty resistant to powercreep right now are Lucy and Soukaku
Anby is still my goat
y?
except on the last stage of the new shiyu
hard to powercreep Qingyi too imo
Same reason people still use Bennett in Genshin
busted beyond belief 
Harder to powercreep supports then it is DPS
had to use ellen into ice res disputed note because I couldnt survive the stage on anby 

Someone I know said this after using Anby against the brute
Jane 
why are the npcs all built like that
I did this day 1 of 1.1 I think, no jane to be had
I see
NPC design is really good in this game honestly
I love Elfy and Susie
there u go
(my lucy isnt built yet)
sucks to not have a furry
wtf
Ayo 
Bro is saving for the new sets
Honestly not a bad choice now that I'm thinking about it
Any suggestion
vro what talents should i level for them
lucy is skill only vro, I dont actually know much about koleda or piper, never played them never looked into it
like level her core skill only?
ah okay
thanks vro
When you do unlock weeklies keep in mind that you can do only 3 per week, so focus on the units you want to invest into first for core skills
They eventually need weekly boss mats
i prob should do lucy first then aye, cuz the others i will replace aye
Yeah, or potentially prefarm for jane 🤔
true vro
what does anomaly scale off?
Anomaly proficiency is the main damage stat for anomaly
Anomaly mastery is buildup speed
Is this change better or worse for Yoimiya?
What’s a better dps arlachino or nuevellete?
they're pretty similar when it comes to team dps assuming good teams. neuvillette has better AoE, range and self-sustain
overall neuvillette (imo), but they're both strong
use the Genshin Optimizer site instead of the in-game thing
it's a lot better
Should I put Raiden on a team with Arlecchino? Both c0
No
both of them are on-fielders, unless you play hyperbloom raiden which would not work with arlecchino
can you use the battle chronicle on hoyolab to send a picture of your characters?
I dont have it set up. Rn I have Kazuha, Fishl(c6), bennet(c5), Arlecchino on a team
I have all 4 stars and a bit of 5 stars
No. I have, mona, Mualani, Arle, Wanderer, Jean, qiqi, kequing, childe, taighnari, diluc, Kazuha and a few more but I can't remember at the top of my head
I can probably confirm or deny if there's one you think I need
You got a few options, can either do something like arle, bennett, kazuha, thoma/dehya/layla/xiangling (if you dont need a defensive option) or a vaporise team like arle, bennett, xingqiu, kazuha/sucrose/layla (if you need a defensive option). there's also chevreuse teams like arle, chev, fischl, bennnett/thoma but they're noticeably weaker without c6 chevreuse
there's also melt teams but they're a bit inconsistent
C6
helps though
Thx
mid
Done for the day go rest
is this ok
Talents need a lot of work, 80/90 her. Sus weapon especially at r1, what else do you have? 4pc golden troupe is good for Quickswap teams but otherwise farm 4pc nighttime or just use 2pc2pc. Your substats need a lot of work
these are the only weapons i got im hoping to get hers when they decide to run her again in 10 years
Craft tidal shadow
🫡
where do i craft that 😭
Blacksmith in fontaine
thank u
Guys if I unlink my playstation account from hoyoverse link account will it log my account out or do smth dangerous?
1 or 2??
Roll the second one 
only with Furina, right?
I think I heard the natlan craftable could be okay on her, if she's with Bennett + Xiangling
Just a healer
Qiqi
Who
oh, healer is enough? I see. Not bennett I assume.
Natlan craftable is a bit better than prototype archaic, which I think would be the next best option after tidal shadow if you dont assume its healed
is what I have
UOMMS my beloved
Stickersword 
guys which 5 star should i select from the event with these characters
Tigh or Jean should be your best bet
Tigh teams generally have overlap with Cyno so if you want to run Cyno, you'll probably pick other units
Jean is just generally a decent pick up since she's anemo + vv + heals
I think even at c0 she's quite worth leveling to 70
short term, you get a holder for the natlan support set (40 dmg% buff)
long-term, you get a decent char for theater
i love how theater is forcing people to do what i've been doing for years
ascending chars also got cheaper with 5.0 WL9, assuming you're ar58
How do I up her dmg? Aside from farming better artifacts?
my guess is Xianyun plunge with c6 Bennett
furina and 4pc MH
Damn I don't have any of those
Is mh really better than gladiators? The crit rate is good but it doesn't buff na as much
it might not be the best advice, since technically plunging on Bennett on that team is probably better
36% crit rate is just a lot.. only with Furina, though
Yeah fair, my crit dmg is pretty low now anyway
But unless another hp drain char comes I think I'm stuck with gladiators
alr thank you
What are these things on the interactive map?
It says "Warrior's Challenges" but I have no clue what that is
And when I go there, nothing happens
That's the symbol for getting ss rank in those time trial challenges in the natlan event, idk why they're there
Oh so they are about the event 🤦
Yeah kinda of stupid to put that on the interactive map
Tysm!! @elfin tusk
It's not from the event, there's different ones that are just overworld
They're seperate things
??? Are they not part of the event? Or did I forget something?
man this game can be so annoying sometimes
There are some that are from the event and others that are overworld 
they are not part of the event, there are specific time challenges that are marked on the map that are part of the event but the 9 released warrior challenges are permanent parts of the new region












