#📌gimshim-help
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dang ive been making a lot of calculations
Ye
pyro hydro dendro aint bad, for my acc, did the theater reset?
yeah
I remember when people thought that Chasca was a cryo vision
not bad for me too i have a lot of pyro dps
but shes actually an anemo…
yea but Citlali is
Bro I swear it looked like cryo
LITERALLYYYY
Literally
😫
wait thank god kachina is on special guest
finally, lvl 90 mua
I don't even have her built
lani
Sitting pretty at 20/40 ehe
Same vro teehee
btw is it actually possible to get 4 boss drops at wl9, ot is just higher chance of 3 bos drops
na
I got it once while levelling mualani

Still haven't seen a 4 but all threes was huge
And I did enough to a5 both nari and kiwawa
So it's probably decently low odds of I didn't see it
I've also only seen it once so far
Just assume that it's 640 resin to 90 a character now (just boss mats)
That's about three days worth of resin?
A bit more I think
More cr hp
just to make sure Shenhe decreases cryo res? so makes kaeya have big dmg 🫡
swap crown imo, cdmg -> crate
Not just cryo res but yes
- Google genshin optimizer
- normal attack
is it worth to pull for shenhe cause i originally wanted her just so kaeya can have big dmg
Sure but you normally see her with other characters like ayaka/wrio/ganyu
ah. i only have kaeya 🫡
my goat 🗣️🗣️
You want shenhe's quill-buffed-hits to be doing hits that are buffed by a lot of DMG percent and crit
ahh i see thank uou 🫡
if u skip right to natlan can u go back to finish previous stuff or does it just completely skip? this is probably a stupid question but i wanna make sure before i skip fontaine
that’s what i thought too but i didn’t want it to like take away my ability to do fontaine unless i complete natlan (if that makes sense)
yes just turn off focus mode/complete the quest
alright than you 🙏
ultimate visionary mode review
Is tighnari good with nilou?
he does nothing there
Would you say he's better than dehya
Both are bad with nilou
Well i mean in genral
i would use him in a spread team
The only dendro dps i have is alaitham
And he's kinda iffy
Like i got everything good but he only has 350 em
Right now im using ayato nilou nahida yaoyao
I would use childe but he has a absurd cooldown
Do i really need dehya if i have arlecchino and c2 diluc
dehya works with burgeon
You don't need Dehya even if your only pyro is Bennett
started a new acc (for a diff server region), which free 5 star character should I pick?
keqing probably the best choice she can helps your exploration and also fight off early game monster easy
Based on my account who do you think is more useful
how do i access the area within the dragon in elynas?
Tighnari or dehya. Up to you
Bbg u ingame?
No bbg
Is this regarding whistles 🤭
bro recommended dehya 😭
Yesh
Her skill has uses. And I can’t see them using tighnari
I’ll be on later
I decided to world jump for whistles and so many ppl didn’t have the tp points unlocked 😔
Ping me when i can farm 
idk i'd say mona nm what
but idk im biased
Her c1 is bugged for her only team
if i was just starting now and didn't have any attachment to hydro but still knew what the characters do i'd prob pick jean
ok and
And it’s useless
and
They don’t even have ayaka or ganyu lol
ur actually trying to reason this through with me lmao
Ok you tell me where they’d use Mona

Mona c0 -> c1 being useless for freeze (they don’t have freeze characters anyways) vs having new characters
what team comps tighnari best at?
quicken team
so 2 dendro and 2 electro should be okay right?
tho is venti okay if i wan to include him in there too?
Kinda scuffed and venti is aoe while tighnari is single target
ohhh, so just stick with 2 dendro and 2 electro?
I wanna use Mualani/Dehya/Kachina/Nahida
How does Dehya's pyro application work? Do I press her e twice or once?
Hmmm
would chongyun, shenhe, bennet, dehya be a fun team?
how do i level up mualani’s talents? should i focus on skill or normal attack
Skill>burst
the normal attack talent can be ignored
ohhhh alr thank u!
Should I go for DM set for Emilie or farm her sig set?
Have we ever seen a npc with an vision before? Not counting that one sumeru quest
Technically, yes. Rana from the Aranara quests got a vision
Can someone please help me, I can't find these at all am farming for Taighanri materials.
Is King Squire okay for both Tighnari and Collei or just 1 of them?
the ghosts who fought alongside raiden in her sq2
neither uses that
there's supposed to be a quest npc here, but I can't find them?
beneath the crystal rock quest
maybe try looking at the interactive map? idk how else to help, sorry
It’s underground
yeah, that was my guess but I hadn't seen the layer symbol thingy
Underground? Strange, it doesnt have a broken line that usually means on a different layer
hii my acc is on 14 days since last login
will i get the returnee thing or do i have to wait for tmr :D
still dunno what to do here
They're underground
only if it has been 45 days since your last stellar reunion
the cave is very small, it should be the one behind the eremites, do you see the paths on the map? it should be one of those
Thx been driving me crazy where to go
How does one unlock this treasure? I got 0 clue on where it is
Use elemental sight
It points you to where they are after you use elemental sight
bro got an upgrade
to solve things like this in general, google "genshin impact interactive map"
it has many comments from other users on each object
ER?
170 😎 this is why it pays to optimize for iron sting
I'm trying to convince myself I don't need zhongli since I have 0 struggles in game without having him but I already have a build, talents, and homa ready for him 😭 What 4 stars utilizes homa efficiently besides xiangling? I already gave my 4pc tenacity to dehya so that problem is gone now-
Any dps polearm user. Zhongli isn’t one of them
Having a hard time decision making because I want to vertically invest in neuvilette and furina using the rest of my wishes on them
candace
Well, he does use the weapon passive pretty well so I was running a hybrid build on him but then again he doesn't really deal that much damage anyways
i think now is when i start converting my 65 starglitter to pulls because i'm gonna cut it close with mualani's weapon unless i get quite lucky
It’s worse than favonius, he doesn’t use his burst unless c2 and his skill damage is negligible
i need opinion
Ok
i got kaz weap, i now have 0 pity, 0 fates, and 0 primos
and 1 fate point
Rip
and i need mualani's weapon obviously
and i have 65 starglitter, imaginarium tmr, 9 more pulls from login, more pulls from that event, 5 from monthly reset, and a bunch more from dailies, later events, etc
should i convert my starglitter to wishes now and do those 13 pulls
or should i wait till the end of the banner
amber cons arent THAT important to me
I am well aware of that though my main issue right now is if I should even get him since I have no problems clearing any content anyways so going for more damage by investing in cons will probs help more. But I have no clue what to do with homa since I'll be using jade spear on arlecchino anyways when I get her and my hu tao already has her own copy of homa
If you don’t care about the 4* constellations just do it now
Tldr: how valuable is zhongli at this point in time, who should I give homa to
ok
here goes
or should i do it one by one in case i get early so i dont waste
🤔
decisions, decisions
He’s still an upgrade for neuv teams. Sounds like that Homa won’t see any use for now
im not allowed to talk about leaks here
dps yaoyao
Dps deez
but you should definitely look at them if ur thinking of getting zhongli... that's probably more than i should say
The issue is I'm planning to get neuvi cons anyways and I'll be using kaz and furina with him with the 4th slot probably being ||redacted unreleased character|| or baizhu
So interruption resist and healing won't really be a problem
also res shred
Pull who you want, the game won’t be a challenge if you vertical invest in neuv. Currently zhongli is still the best for c1 neuv tho
Fair point, but isn't neuv's baizhu furina kaz team the best as of now?
so in a team like that, zhongli > baizhu?
nice sands and goblet!
I was considering to strongbox more VV at some point
I don't have enough EM VV pieces to equip all my anemo chars at once, for Theater, and the sands is a bit meh
Baizhu heals, which buffs Furina's damage from her summons.
Zhongli can hold Petra, which in theory buffs Neuv. I'd heard it had bad uptime in practice, but apparently it's alright? I'm not sure.
#📌gimshim-help message
neuv e>furina ed>kazuha tep q>zhongli hE (dash into shard)>furina q>neuv ca e ca q>kazuha tep>neuv ca ca
I have to say that Baizhu seems like a stopgap measure since the bloom reaction isn't useful.
I'd probably go for Neuv's c1 and run a non-shielder before I pulled a unit without a good reaction for the team.
It just feels like it's not a full synergy team and will get eclipsed eventually
dawg i was looking through co-op and i found some guy with a bolide noelle
brotha it is twenty fucking twenty four
time of day, 20:24?
How do you destroy this wall?
Maybe that’s the recommended artis 
without knowing the quest or location name..
we'd have to google it, but there's nothing to google
Well, the only thing I ca give is that it's in this area
tbh though, running VV on all your anemo units in theater might be wasted
better to run something like Noblesse Jean / emblem Venti if there's a decent chance there's another VV holder on the team due to the randomness of Theater 
you have to complete https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Static_Views,_Part_2
need to find the first 10 clipboard pictures from here: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Aranyaka_(Gadget)#Mysterious_Clipboard
hope you used an interactive map to mark off all the aranara you found
otherwise you'll be checking each and every one again to get the last chests 
anyone who follows recommended artis has no idea what they're doing
noelle hasn't used bolide since like 2.2 or whenever tf husk dropped
and now if you have furina she doesn't even use husk anymore because mh is better
freakin hell I got every single precious and luxurious chest for Scions of the Canopy and still stuck with 2 fragments
did all challenges
Since gladge dropped
tru tbh
there's basically never been any reason for bolide
on-field petra buffer 
at least archaic petra has like 2 niche usecases
(I actually don't know how that compares to MH)
disgusting
do it again on the hard mode that should've unlocked now that you've cleared 8 this rotation
bolide? significantly worse on every front
husk? yeah a bit worse, 36 cr is a big deal
archaic petra onfield? that just isn't a thing, it doesn't work
petra driver:
I think I heard it somewhere, and then I saw genshinbuilds has it listed
Noelle, Furina, Yelan, ???
I'm guessing the Petra version wouldn't run Gorou, since it's focusing more on the hydro dps damage (?)
oh right, today is reset day
the new difficulty, apparently "visionary mode":
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Version/5.0
this is disgusting
just run furina yelan xq kaz like a normal fucking person eurghhh
not mentioned in the main article for it yet, for some reason:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Imaginarium_Theater#Difficulty_Level
healerless Furina team 🤯
(I tried running Xianyun with that when the pyro lectors were in abyss, but it didn't impress me)
also notice how bolide is not mentioned in the bottom section about anything recommended for any situation? yeah that's because there's actually no situation where it's good 😹
yeah, I don't think bolide is relevant
that team is actually insane btw, it's too strong for me to use for most content because either i die from not being able to heal (usually an issue with rifthounds or a few other annoying things) or i kill things too fast to get my burst back (usually this is the reason)
i think your issue is that your individual builds are not strong
actually now that i have fsworn that team is terrifying, it literally mows through everything
when xq starts ticking 8k+ and yelan is doing double that things just go poof
maybe I wasn't grouping them well, it felt underwhelming against the lectors
Buffs only xingqiu 
yeah kaz only buffs xq
furina is keeping up purely in her personal dmg
issue found
I tried slingshot on Yelan at some point, but didn't want to keep switching her artifacts
loadouts, when?
wait, what's up with that flower?
wym
is that really the best
i need the ER
my min standard for flowers / plumes is 7 subs, before that I'd usually keep going
7 always seems quite manageable
my worst flower is probably on Neuv, because cr isn't a useful stat for him at this point he uses a scuffed one
anyway here are all the builds for the team, except my kaz weap isn't leveled because i got it hours ago
i usually use iron sting
welp
they're really cultivating that fomo
by making them never available again
i join co-op with aloy sometimes
is she not available anymore?
I thought you just had to be a PS player
also i realized recently that ppl dont have the 4* event skins now lol
nah im not even a ps player, she wasnt ps exclusive
her bow was but she came in the mail to all players
like barbara skin? that was 1.6 dawg 😭 i feel old asf
I was considering to pull on the last weapon banner in 4.8
get some copies of the EM → atk conversion claymore and catalyst
get Emilie on a rerun if I happen to get her weapon
But I don't even use Yelan that much, I think I'd rather use the wishes in 5.X
they make better constellations and weapons now (pretty sure Neuv's sig is a lot better for team dmg than Yelan's, even though Aqua is a good generalist bow to have?)
The deciding factor was, the 1 fate point change wasn't live yet and losing the 75:25 would've been awkward. Would I have kept going and burned all many wishes?..
ah
should i change my discord pfp
i got aqua on lyney release
i lost twice which is why i have 2 lyney bows
new discord pfp fr fr:
whats max level rn for natlan sigil thingo
20
but because it was fontaine release and i also had done basically zero sumeru content, i could get enough wishes to get 3 soft pities
im only on 11 😔 thanks tho vro
gl with the grind
if i do it now it wont be as scary
I'm trying to get city reputation as far as possible before the weekly reset
i think my second lyney bow was at like 40 pity too which helped
what im at rn
damn, my fontaine statue isn’t even fully leveled yet
ive already done all the quests and explored everything over 60
i keep getting notified in the guidebook that there are incomplete story quests but they're literally not out uet
each tribe having its own reputation system, with 4 levels
having to max reputation with the first three tribes to get the compass
I did the first two quests for each tribe, but gotta progress with the archon quest for the 3rd
how long does one tribe take to max, if u know?
gonna assume its at the very least 3 weeks per
I think I got 4 / 5 quests for the water tribe with the highest reward for exploration and reached level 3
let me confirm later
damn im only at 2 in each region
wonder if its possible to max before 4.1
I might be misremembering, it was pretty late yesterday..
also dyt i should change people from my showcase
the rock alr did this smh 🙄
Neuv NA not crowned, but skill and burst both lvl9?
im not gonna crown him
he's not even done yet
I usually crown the talent that contributes the most
Furina skill and burst
Yelan burst
Xq burst
Fischl skill
etc
even though I barely use Fischl
i usually dont level talents so
🍳
I feel like lvl9 skill and burst on Neuv is really high investment though
compared to crowning skill
isn't hit talent priority like
NA >>>> skill, burst
ill do it when i get that dang goblet
yeah
gl 
crowning is symbolic
for me
i have to have someone fully done to crown them
i've only ever crowned xq Q and yelan Q
I'm not sure what to use my Sanctifying Elixir on, yet
Might use it on Neuv, to free up Yelan's goblet
and unlock giving him another off-piece
i know exactly what i'll use em for when i have 4, but rn i unfortunately only have 2
or use it on something where the domain is really bad and I want to be done with it
like Navia's sig set
or I just use 2pc 2pc on her until it goes to strongbox
I'm still at 1
oh my god i just seen how they did bounties and requests differently and its so much better
fully agree, yeah
it's like a breath of fresh air
wait what changed
u can have all bounties at once now
@sour birch
Does mulani only hits single target?
see the screenshots
oh ik abt that part
they become signposts on the map and u can get up to 120 rep from each
nah she can hit multiple
honestly she does better in multi
and now requests are done right in the rep menu
oh heat
she hits all marked targets with rockets
her damage is diminished in that situation, but I guess it's also multiplied by the targets she hits
and her QoL is probably improved because marking in multi target is easier and faster
the return of wolflords tho..... 😨
yeah marking lowkey slow asf in st
which means you have less duration for her surfing
what i got from one week of bounties and current explore
and that means you have less noms per E
you'll almost be maxed if you do those quests and then next week's bounties and requests
u right chuck
so i prob can do all maxed by 4.1
fs
nevermind, it's level 2. I was wrong about 3
i hope xilonen is top meta, so my simping can be good
definitely don't check leaks about her!
no leaks allowed in this server so i can't share any but if i was allowed to i would probably tell you something good to know about her kit
👅
although i main dehya, so it doesnt bother me if shes mid
only takes 3 of the best units to make her good 
my furina hitting 60k regularly tho is funny
i mean huh? what?
getting constellations from the 5-star selector?
is my xiao good
needs more 4mh
I would've pulled him, but the weapon situation is awkward with MH
and I'm not strongboxing his sig when MH sheets similarly 
I don't know enough about him, like his talent priority and how 2pc 2pc compares to MH and his sig set
I think I took screenshots from a guide that compared his sets once, maybe I can find them
mh is a cut above the rest but quite difficult to build around because of a lot of sources of crit rate, 2-and-2 performs worse than vermillion but within a couple substat rolls
iirc
yeah, since 4.0 they keep using the 100% cr limit as a way to make weapons / artifact sets unviable on certain chars
like Mualani and Sacrificial Jade
Xiao and MH + PJWS
Well Xiao can have some room for a few crit subs, Mualani with Sac Jade is literally already overcapped 
went from no dehya to c1 in 5 mins lol
napkin math on xiao + pjws + 4mh:
5% base
19.2% ascension
36% MH
22.1% PJWS
4 - 10% Xianyun A1
86.3% - 92.3% before substats
so 2 - 4 cr rolls to cap
without pjws, it's 64.2% - 70.2% before substats
so 8 - 9 cr rolls to cap
ideally I'd want to have space for 3.9% cr per piece (having cr but not rolling into it)
so without PJWS it's already close
And she's based for that
they do enjoy making it so there's one less useful stat to roll into
making it infinitely harder to get good artifacts
healing mode Furina so she can't steal vapes?
Free crit rate is always nice though, especially if you want to crit every hit

I did the same thing with Yelan, damage is a bit lower obviously
give me free crit dmg instead, making me build the crit rate myself ^^
I feel like I'm being force-fed crit rate until I'm overcapped
woulda done more with the card on the left lmao
I know
force-feeding crit rate is saving the crit fish players from having a horrible experience
I wonder if that's the intention
whyd you pick the middle one then
I picked the middle one so that my numbers weren't inflated
ic
Because of an abyss card
bros an honest crit fisher
Ratio isn't bad
why is mualani not available in imaginary theriom
The sands makes me sad but it was my only one
Letting furina vape is just as fast 
she is, she's opening cast this rotation
oh crap i forgot
What sands should I use for tighnari? and from what Set?
About?
I see
I did it anyway 

Is there anyway I can get more resin
Refreshing 
Don't do this if you're F2P
level up your teapot, it gives 60 resin a week
should i pull for mualani OR wait for mavuika and get c0/1 + sig OR arlecchino c0/c1 + sig ?
all of the above
cant
If you only have enough to guarantee one then I'd recommend grabbing the one you like the most first. And as far as Mavuika we have no idea what she does so saying you should pull for her doesn't really make sense
And we also don't know when Arle is rerunning
its 1 option, i have guaraunteed on character banner + 30 pity
surely not before february cause of natlan banners
Who knows
too many uncertainties to say, you have to make the decision urself
that being said, im gonna say pull mua because hydro 
kazuha is running right now, new characters means nothing as far as rerun schedule
what am i supposed to do?
get all three then you get a lux chest and an obsidian thingy
what?
How much extra primos does doing the 22-26 mode on IT?
all three of the burrowing things
were are they
around the area
Mua is probably the "have most fun this patch" option because of overworld utility and also having something fun and new now.
if you want long-term optimization, I'd say it's probably skip for now and pull on a rerun when you have more information. On-fielders are always at risk of getting replaced.
mua is ugly

(I don't think so, but also it doesn't play into it for me)
I'd play as a hilichurl model if it gave me optimal teams
Damn, what's it like not having eyes?
She's adorable
/not enough beauty-sided
What does that even mean?
If you're running clorinde as main DPS then yes
i dont know, just doesnt respect beauty standards
that account seems to have pulled a lot of on-fielders, a team can only have one
Who is last party member, should I pull furina
she's as ugly as bennett
Ye I just got kazuha
She's also more than likely going to only get better as future Natlan characters release 
🎣
For me furina is a must pull since she buffs a lot and is pretty versatile, looking at your characters she can be paired with hutao, xingqiu and Bennet
i only found 1 though, i cant find the other 2
I think I gave up on hu tao, playstyle isn't for me
Clorinde Kazuha nahida fischl
I'd look for Furina and Yelan, since Hutao and Alhaitham both want off-field hydro supports
Hutao even wanting two, so having 3 is not a bad thing
Then you can maybe run quicken alhaitham or QB alhaitham
Does furina work instead of fischl
No, Furina works instead of kazuha
Is there any team that works with nahida furina and kazuha then
Not well
Clorinde but not really recommended
Oh okay thanks guys
look around by thevores and inside the tree hollows
i logged in to discord and i see this 
Which is better? He’s has the wanderers troupe on
idk if this is the right channel for this but does anyone have any clutching tips?
do 2pc 2pc em set first while balancing crit, then you prioritize any 4pc set that offers you better stats
what clutch
i can't drive on manual sadly
😭
So Wanderers troupe and Gilded?
yes
waitwait why would I do a 2pc then change it to a 4pc?
2pc 2pc first with better substats, then make a 4pc with better substats
Does anyone know the location of Alpaca : volcano cake and baby capybara.
Which is better?
left if you don't need the ER, right if you do
I don't really need his burst so left then

their ayato can dispatch all enemies in 8 rotations
Im not a mega professional team builder cause i play the characters i like more than anything and i don't know the meta at all, but cause Kazuha is Anemo, he'll work okay with Furina but not Nahida
Having any dendro character on your team basically means putting an anemo character on your team is a wasted slot, vice versa
Oh, what team works well with furina and kazuha
Nuevi shielder
aggravate is usually electro dendro anemo fwiw
burnvape burnmelt would appreciate anemo too, but often dont have the teamslot to fit it
Oh yah forgot about that. Im just trying to come up with a simple thing
Im at 80 in standard, do I spend some primos 
Do you have any characters that do off field damage like xianling, faruzan, xingqu etc.
Furina is basically your sub dps and your healer in one so i don't think you need a slot for a healer. So you've got like 2 slots left
Faruzan is a crazy crazy good anemo buffer but I'm not so sure how well she'd work w Kazuha cause I don't have him
you don't use pneuma furina in combat 
Furina is not a healer in combat
Unless she's C6
That is the only extenuating circumstance
bring the singer of many waters and it just heals you and nothing else. not even a slight of hydro app
Im talking strictly when you're running low on HP
Like the bottom red
I'm trying to make this as simple as possible
yes it's handy in overworld, but we're talking about spiral abyss/imaginarium/limited combat event perspectives here
Is mualani, Furina, xl, jean a good comp
Or is Bennett always needed for sunfire, how does it work
Bennett is needed for sunfire yes
but bennett in a mualani team is usually a nothingburger
so yes it's a good comp for now until any other natlan character comes
This team should be fine for now since Mualani's teammates are really limited, but it might be a bit scuffed
changed some artifacts around, does this look alright? I'm not used to seeing my neuvi having less than 300% cd.
would mualani nahida xiangling mona be good? also would it be worth to run mona with 4pc instructor
it should be fine if you are comfortable with that much defensive utility
instructor mona with favonius/prototype amber probs
F
I feel you man, trust me I do 
This however will not stop me from farming four more elixirs and crafting a hydro cup for my Mualani
Does the new HP catalyst work on neivillete?
which one
The natlan free catalyst
that's still two different catalysts
There are two?
yes
The free one from the web event
so the craftable
4 star
the natlan craftable on neuvillette is like equipping a weapon with no passive
normal attack dmg% doesnt do anything on him because he shouldn't use normal attacks
Do I just save elixirs and craft another circlet next patch 
I pray pyro traveller is going to have phlogiston mechanic and be a good mualani support if mavuika won’t be
Is this a sufficient er?
chances are, they'll make it so you still want to pull other options
Yes
should be fine
(reminder to claim fates with stardust for this month)
What's a good er count for xiangling?
Is there a good f2p option for him. I only know of prototype amber.
prototype amber is the best non-gacha option anyway
with the weapon banner improvement now as it's only 1 instead of 2 fate points to guarantee, it's worth considering pulling tome if ur not a battlepass buyer
its significant better than prototype amber
like 35-40% more personal dps
and he'll usually do around 60%+ of your team dps
Do you need circlets that bad? 
I'd probably try to off-piece the circlet
I'm offpiecing an 8 substat goblet
These elixirs are gonna be hard to come by anyway. Until they roll them out in events
though if it's your off-piece and also your worst piece..
Feels really hard to beat
Time to wait another patch then
Surely next one rolls nothing but crit

unless you can craft an on-set 8 substat goblet
Rate the build
Oh well I guess I can craft another one today for navia, and then I'll save 2 for next patch to give it another go
True, but my circlet is a 3 roll circlet, that seems more realistic 
wonder what the chances are
it's an advantage of dmg% goblets that getting 4 useful substats eliminates the possibility of it rolling really badly
sounds like my Neuv situation
offpiece 8 sub goblet, on-set 5 substat circlet
better than 3, but still it's not exactly an ideal circlet
sands, goblet, circlet are kinda alright
the flower is probably easiest to improve
not sure if your ER is enough or not
otherwise, I think Xl's damage isn't that important on the team
since she gets no buffs and has high ER reqs as solo pyro
next rerun, if it's with a decent other weapon at least
He's gonna rerun with Shenhe 
I might make due with Lost Prayer and be really patient with a good weapon rerun 
the situation is a lot better now for people trying to force it
the weapon banner change to 1 fate point is great
it has made it far easier to recommend pulling certain weapons
Would you recommend me pulling for Surf's Up then? 
well, you're a spender anyway 
if you don't have a high refine sac jade though, yeah
high refine sac jade is good, just more annoying to build around
Okay cool cuz I already pulled for it

Also yeah without a single crit rate sub, Mualani with Sac Jade is already overcapped
indeed
What about this neuvi?
assuming you force the charted weapon:
2 fate points:
100% Tome
64% second weapon
1.984 5★
1 fate point:
100% Tome
37.5% second weapon
1.625 5★
lvl90 him and his weapon
Also I meant to ask you because I was thinking about it the other day, do you still have that doc on character recommendations? If so, is it updated?
crown NA talent
flower and plume could potentially be improved, or your could call it done for the moment I think
we update it still but not for mualani and kachina yet https://tinyurl.com/GenshinInvestment
Investment Priority Guide by Genshin Helper Team A character being given a High investment value rating does not make them a must-pull or must-use, nor does it make them an objectively stronger character than a character with a lower investment rating This guide is to help players understand th...
Nice
I see you changed it to investment value
yes, we tried to make it a bit simpler
I think it works, giving things a numerical value would probably make people see them in a better or worse light because of it

Excited to see it updated for Mualani
we should get around to it in the next week or so
(is it still not necessarily recommended for beginners?)
the guide or something else?
if you mean the weapon banner, no I wouldn't recommend it to beginners who have little to no limited 5*s
the investment guide, iirc you said many months ago that it's not really a recommended resource for new players
I might be mixing that up
Hmm, I don't remember what I said, but the resource is intended for newish players too
Is Amos bow good for tighnari?
What are some mualani teams?
Burn vape is her best team iirc with Dehya Nahida Furina
you are gonna miss a lot of vapes on mualani with that team
i also dont really recommend any of the off-field pyro characters apart from xiangling unless you're just doing single target
cuz none of the other off-field pyros have good aoe application
hi :3
Isn't the Burn Aura sufficient to enable both furina and Mualani since both are very slow at applying Hydro 
no

the value of adding a dendro is mainly to counteract a hydro aura which makes it easier to maintain a pyro aura
burning it on itself doesnt rly actually help with pyro application
any therapist here? 
Any good Mualani team I could make with this 
you can just use like zhongli, xiangling, nahida
Same question as previous guy but with my boz
280% ER xiangling :maggotprime:
therapist for what occasion/circumstance
true
Me with barely 190
im sorry but the reality is
if you dont use xiangling you cope in aoe
so you just gotta deal with it
Just dont aoe 
yeah just dont do abyss
Leaks: 4* Xiangling Spear
565 Base ATK
88.4% Crit DMG
I don't need bennett ability
Increases Energy Recharge by 80% of current ATK.
Leeks?!
Ong i havent even used clorinde in abyss ever even tho i have her
probably a joke, but a dangerous one 
true
if you guess what they're making, you might be in a spot of trouble 😛
just runnin over the edge
Leaks 4☆ Xiangling Spear, 0 base atk 105.2% ER

nice candace spear
Leeks 3* weapon base atk 420 300er mainstat
candace is on fielder nilou bloom driver doesnt need that much ER 
candace in nilou bloom is usually off-field
and it's on-field yaoyao with the hydro infusion
Shield thoma 4pc totm or 4pc nob
"usually" 
4pc tenacity doesnt have good uptime on thoma
his fiery collapses are not skill dmg
ermmm there's no right way to play the game!!!!! /s
imma put Neuvilette Arlecchino and Mualani in the same team for maximum DPS iirc

Oh okay so nobb
yeah either noblesse or something else that isnt tenacity
What would that be then?
hmm, so Natlan bounties have no navigate / accept bounty button?
Hi, can someone help ?
help in where ?
In killing oceanoid
what server and uid?
alright, omw
Youve already done all 3 tho?
not knowingly.. oh, I did bounties before 5.0 came out
right, now I remember why I did that. Because we can't do bounties after reputation is maxed anymore
depends what team you're using
in some teams there is a noblesse user already and you can do 2pc mixes of hp/er
thoma can be a deepwood holder but currently there arent many teams where he actually would be one
something like wrio, bennett, thoma, emilie for example
afaik, the only valuable cons are:
- Tighnari
- Dehya
- Jean c4 if you plan to play her with anemo dps
I just want generalist for it
so should i go for tihnari c3 or jean c2 ?
then go 4pc noblesse
in the latter case, I believe even c4 Jean is often sidelines for other options though
like Xiao, Xianyun, Furina, Faruzan
mine jean is c2 now but gonna be c3 if i pick her
i mean c1 gonna be c2*
tighnari gnna be from c2 to c3
if i pick him
from c0 to c6 which bennett is good
he's good even at c0, but the most relevant cons are 1, 5 and 6
ill just pick c3 tighnari and one day be lucky for c4
Should I make most characters at least lv 80 before attempting the hardest version of IT?
Hp/hp/hp?
No, it's pretty easy
Ive r3 kitain fross on him should be fine right
Do u want em on mualani?
hp/er, hp, crit rate with favonius
an er/hp weapon
Does r3 kitain count?
Is mika good as a generalist support if it comes around?
no
There are better supports when cryo comes around in IT
chat where can i see current best builds and stuff?
ty
which weapon is the best for mualani?
I thought C0 Benny sucks 
Also is Sigewinne any good
I heard she's like the first 3☆ 
Ring of Yaxche is her best f2p option
is it better than r5 widsith? and if so should r5 the ring or naah
why so?
if your character drops below the hp threshold he will just heal them back over it again and they benefit from the atk buff again
Ring of Yuck
Actually do you even lose the buff if you only dip for like 1 tick? Considering bennett buff has linger
maybe not actually if its just 1 tick
roughly yeah
So basically just build more hp and it becomes a non issue, neat not that it was a big issue to begin with
Ring and Widsith perform similarly but Ring has the advantage that it isn't RNG (widsith might give you ATK Buff which is useless on Mualani)
she's like, relatively bad at c0 for a limited 5*
depends tbh
oki my mualani has like 50k hp so i thought maybe cdmg would be better than the hp from ring would be better, il buillddd ringg
How do you have 50k HP 
bad artifacts
Surely not C4 Yelan
are you running HP/HP/HP 
hydro goblet
dehya finds more value than siege wind
How's the crit ratio and EM looking 
maybe 4pc marcheusse would be better
4pc MH doesn't really work unless u run Furina with Mua
Which team
There are many monohydro variants iirc
she has teamwide healing with minimal fieldtime and buffs furina's damage
she becomes much better with her constellations
but this is at least a team with c0 sigewinne where she isnt cope
Is the team worse or better than Kokomi Yelan Furina Kazuha
probably worse on paper anyway, not sure about in practice because the sigewinne variant has a bit more flexibility with rotations
iirc Kokomi variant is very good
It's my strongest team by far
(not like I have many good teams to begin with but it's still something)
I only have 18 characters ready for IT. Who should be the last 4 for the hardest difficulty.
it is good yes, though the aoe isnt great
Is Sigewinne better in AOE since she has the mini Neuvi laser
realistically, 750+
There's no minimum, you try to get as high EM as possible but try to balance between ER and EM
750 you can hit with ER weapon and about 4 EM subs on your artifacts
preferably you should have 800+ EM with ~160% ER
Apple what's the best team I can theoretically make
with this considering good enuf investment
neuvillette, furina, zhongli, kazuha
mua just has a lot of HP, she has theater buff and yaxche is an Hp weapon
Doesn't Neuvi lose out on Furina because no 3rd draconic stakc thing
I only have 3 hp subs
her buffs and personal damage make up for it
even with 1 less stack
What was the build website I forgor the name
its pinned here
Nevermind I don't even have my ID 
oh you mean to show builds, enka.network
yeah for a neuv team you want to run a lower er build with an offensive weapon
I don't have any offensive sword I think
at the very least you can use fleuve
and just dont build ER on artifacts
it'll give you a bit more than you need but it still gives skill crit rate
I'm NOT farming for fleuve 
smh my head
Who should be the last 4 characters I level up for IT?
I don't even have the catch at R5 :maggotprime:
what's IT
the difference between farming for the catch and for the fleuve is one of their fishes do not locate in a stupendously painful electro water
so it's easier to farm for fleuve
both require you to fish which is like very disgustingly boring
you can work around it, by playing subway surfers/watch subway PoVs while fishing
Imaginarium theater
Me who has all fishing weapons + fished for r5 catch on 4 other accounts 
I haven't played since 3.4 I have no idea what that is 
my brain is too fried to even enjoy subway surfers I fear
What the brain rot
is it challenging or is it free like the abyss
free- if you built a lot of characters in the element
Pretty free
I only have Hydro characters :maggotprime:
This round is pyro hydro dendro
wtf burgeon / nilou bloom / vape surely
If u have like 22-26 of them at lvl70 then u can do the hardest difficulty
Should I use hp goblet on Furina when using key on her?
sure if you want her to buff more EM
Missing 4 characters for IT. Aside from Nilou, who should be the last 3
take screenshots of the page, don't use their share feature
putting everything into 2 columns makes it hard to read imo
Here
You have noone left that's like super high value to build, out of the occasionally useful ones that are on element for current theater I'd say the standouts are thoma Kirara and gaming
ah then those 3 are fairly good invest imo for IT
wha do these do
Recharge ur plutonium
Dam the new imagination theatre needs 22 characters
😌
my lvl70 amber did not 10 star😔
Just bloom
No
My 3 dendro characters were nahida, yaoyao and collie with no artifacts
Pain
Didnt get star from act 9 couldnt defeat fast enough barely managed to clear act 9 even had exactly 0 time
If i only get the star for the last two chambers now will it count
Wdym?
is this an okay mualani team?
Yuh
No, Bennett is a dead slot
Unless it's for xiangling
Xiangling isn’t put there for her damage
Ok
can u guys rename your saurian
Yes, pretty sure only once tho
Xiangling isn't the one vaping, so buffing her instead of mualani just reduces teamdps
Why is Kachina with Mualani in some of her teams? What does she do aside from the little dmg she provides
She can hold the new support artifact set
yeah that's pretty much it
geo resonance too if you use zhongli
there arent many synergistic characters with mualani so
rn im using mualani, zhongli, xiangling, emilie which you can also do
its probably not the best damage wise but its pretty good and consistent to use
highkey liking Emilie/Dehya/Mua/+1 though I only tried them on theatre 
the non-xiangling pyro appliers are cope in aoe
yuh
is this a good team comp? I'm still working on building them but I am a little tempted to swap out Bennett and/or Fischl for a better sub-dps or healer since Bennett takes a while to get his heal burst back and Fischl is basically just a support at the moment (also added my character selection for recommendations!)
who could I replace him w
Zhongli or kachina
Bennett will always be the best unless you pull Furina + xianyun. Put faruzan on the team, if she isn’t c6 you might want to run triple anemo with sucrose
guys can someone explain those things i still dont get their idea
After you spend resin it turns into encounter points and you can use it instead of daily commissions. Your 314 will expire at the end of the patch
so like no need for me to actually do them if i have a bunch of points ?
yeah it only expires at x.0 patch
not having to do comms huge W
still needs to do at least one a day if it has achievement 
Oh yeah it’s every version
actually how do I refund 6 elixirs please
(this is kinda good enough though)
think I settle on this, no more nighttime crafts in the future
I just have a fuckton more ER rolls cuz quickswap™️
🤝
THAT NEW ARTIFACT THING IS A SCAMM
ok
is that a plume?
I think I'd use it on pieces with lower drop rate, being able to choose the main stat is part of the value
is this set decent for barbara, im too lazy to farm and i need another healer for theatre
i dont think the second passive has any use
cuz it buffs barbaras normal attacks
maybe going 2pc healing 2 pc hp would work
or 4pc tenacity
okay thank you 🙏🙏
I'm not sure it's worth bothering to level specific artifacts for her, though
could just give her a rainbow set and call it a day
fr
I suspect the healing will be enough, I'd just make sure to have enough ER
just stack some hp and er and ur good to go
After the "Revelations from the Past" quest, do I just teleport away? It's unusual there doesn't appear to be a gate to leave this area
my quest list is empty now, so it seems the quest is done
u can tp back but yeah just tp out after taking the chests
just tp ||near the waypoint with lava tunnel||
then re-enter that area
it's so pretty though I had to make this my new wallpaper bg 
after leaving and re-entering, I now have "The Road Ahead" - quest list is no longer empty
at the entrance? yeah, the quest marker for Road Ahead was pointing there
Is there a Pyro healer that isn't named Bennet? Would be amazing if Pyro Traveler became a healer. lol
Is DEhya good for a sub dps/support for archellno
nope
is she good for any characters?
any teamp comp recommendations for abyss? Also which 5 star should i choose in the free event
Chevy
Technically
I don't have her, and I don't know when her next rerun is. I am running Dehya, Candace and Emilie in a party. Together with Kuki. But I Kind of don't want Hyperbloom.
You wouldn't put Chev in that team to begin with
I honestly don't even know what this team is supposed to be doing
burn things.
Then why is Candace there?
Well, if you have candace water and dendro create a reaction, that reaction doesn't instantly do something, usually takes a few seconds, but what that does is this: Add fire it burns things more
You don't need to explain it like I'm a child, I know what the reactions are. It's just you could be using better options
Alr

Should i have mualani on the natlan catalyst or widsith
R5 widsith and i can try get refinements on new thing if its good
How valuable is kazuha?
Cuz I am thinking of pulling him or should I wait
(I have guaranteed and I am at 57 pity)
who are you pulling for next?
Puro archon
imo you should, he is versatile in many teams
Puro*
He’s one of the better characters, send your character list
Get him
can kequing me used as a support for arlechino
No, they are both onfielders
gn ballsicles sleep well
Whom
Oswald Q Ostrich
are any of the free 5stars good for arlecchino or clorinde
Mona for Arlecchino (extreme copium)
Not really
so should i just get another dps then ?
Most you could cope is tighnari for Clorinde 
what's the best standard 5☆ anyway surely Thighnari
Send a screenshot of your character list
that doesn't even work in the slightest gg
ok
burst supp Tighnari surley...
Doesn’t matter a whole lot but I’d get tighnari
Tighnari with no Miko or Nahida :maggotprime:
Quick swap dps
He's a DPS
ok thanks 👍
@haughty lotus
@tender granite
recommend team 
Mulani frina byeju jangling
hydro archon
why byeju
wouldn't nhda be better for 250 EM iirc
Not the iirc again plz








