📌gimshim-help

[brittle cipher]

😞😞

[opal surge]

I'll take that, thank you very much

[unkempt river]

another nice piece. I'd recommend keep farming. The off pieces are usually circlet or goblets since they're the hardest to get. Flowers are said to be easy to replace.

[narrow folio]

I'll trade you it for a 40CV atk sands

[unkempt river]

Do you agree with what I said above? Just asking a more experienced player about their insight.

[opal surge]

ER sands is all I can offer

[brittle cipher]

ill try gang 😞🙏

[lyric cargo]

off-piece

[narrow folio]

I already have enough ER and HP sands

[unkempt river]

huh

[opal surge]

another nice piece. I'd recommend keep farming. The off pieces are usually circlet or goblets since they're the hardest to get. Flowers are said to be easy to replace.
this? yeah Id agree

[narrow folio]

Weakest HP sands

This is what made me stop farming Whimsy

[unkempt river]

aight great c:

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I'd usually keep farming until I have a decent flower and plume

only occasionally will an off-piece flower be useful

[narrow folio]

Also new artifact crafting next patch

Now you'll get pieces with double crit that never roll into it

@opal surge What's the first piece you're gonna craft?

[unkempt river]

what would you say those occasions are? Obtaining a busted on set goblet/circlet/sands or is there smth else?

[brittle cipher]

is it one artifact (to create) (?) every 30 days

[unkempt river]

In my nightmares

[narrow folio]

As long as you have the elixir you can craft a piece throughout a set duration which seems to be a patch

[opal surge]

whimsy cdmg circlet with crate and atk I think

[lyric cargo]

this is the last time it happened for me

[brittle cipher]

oo okay 🕺🕺 ty

[narrow folio]

You get elixir from overworld exploration, paid BP, and foddering leveled artifacts

[unkempt river]

DAMN, those HP rolls hahah

[narrow folio]

25 +4's for one elixir

[lyric cargo]

and if I had a good off-piece sands, maybe I'd use an on-set flower

[unkempt river]

gotcha

[narrow folio]

Good choice

I'm gonna get my Navia an ATK sands on set and then be done with this fuck ass domain

[unkempt river]

for who?

[opal surge]

for clorinde

[unkempt river]

nice

[opal surge]

Well, I think the first 2 pieces I will craft will both be circlets for clorinde and navia

My goats

[narrow folio]

Navia and then Mualani

Because my hydro cups are garbage

[opal surge]

Surely it will be an ugprade

[narrow folio]

I'd keep that just for the funny number

[opal surge]

its being foddered the second the chosen circlet is crafted

[narrow folio]

inb4 it rolls the exact same

[opal surge]

[narrow folio]

But don't use it for XP, use it on crafting more elixir

Unless you really need the XP

[opal surge]

how will I level the new circlet

[narrow folio]

With four stars

[opal surge]

But those four stars could also have gone to 5*s to feed to elixir right

[vital prism]

what would be the ideal rotation for a team consisting of, navia, xiangling, ningguang and benny? ning has dragon slayers

[opal surge]

Isnt it the same

[narrow folio]

Only five stars

Wait I misread

You're right

[opal surge]

[dusty cape]

[narrow folio]

It's expensive anyway so it's fine

[opal surge]

i dont really know what ninguang does tbh, but with ttds ning its probably something along the lines of Navia Q>Bennet QE >Xiangling QE> Ning E(Q?) > Navia E N3DN2 E N3DN2 (E)

though kinda low bennet uptime but otherwise you cant get ttds onto navia

Im guessing you might not burst on ning but idk

[quaint fern]

Ning will probably just help make more crystals for the 1st shot?

Idk if you need to swap back in to recast skill when it breaks tho

[opal surge]

First shot usually is 6 anyway between navias burst generating during rotation and the crystallizes you get until first e

[vital prism]

i use her for the geo damage and the buff from the book. plus helps me make the cystals. who else would you reccomend?

[opal surge]

I think shes fine if you don't have the premium options in Zhongli/chiori available, I just personally haven't played her

[round oyster]

hi, does anyone on EU server have these?
i'm too weak for the fighting mini-game and i'm only missing these two TT

[brittle cipher]

i have them both!

[round oyster]

:0

[brittle cipher]

uid?

[round oyster]

do you need any figures?

[round oyster]

738154290

[brittle cipher]

what do you have as spare :p (?)

[brittle cipher]

sent!

[round oyster]

thank you sooo much i was so desperate lol TT

[round oyster]

i'll send some screenshots

[brittle cipher]

coolio :3

[round oyster]

this is all i have

[brittle cipher]

aight ive updated my wishlist is just 2 blue things :))

[round oyster]

sent ^^

[brittle cipher]

tyy! and i sent yours as well

[round oyster]

yeaaah i claimed them thank you so much

[sly lava]

okay should i pull for kazuha or raiden, are they needed

[brittle cipher]

kazuha for sure imo!

[round oyster]

kazuha is an amazing support, works in like every team
raiden can be a cool dps/sub dps, but c2 is better
i personally don't have kazu but i'm pulling for raiden because she's one of my faves
if you don't have kazuha, i think it's better to pull for him tho

like raiden is still really strong, but kazuha is a must have support from what i know

[sly lava]

hmmm ty

[round oyster]

np!!

[silver prism]

how do i unlock these? (ive done all story and archon quests and are working on hangouts)

[round oyster]

i don't have them anymore... so i have no idea TT

[sour birch]

i think im him

[neon harness]

What level is traveler

[silver prism]

90

[neon harness]

No character is needed but kazuha well definitely be a good addition to your account
I would get kazuha first because kazuha is more universal while raiden is the onfield dps (mostly, unless hyperbloom or sumthing) so you need to build a team around her

If you have benny in another team, abyss wise, just keep in mine raiden also wants him

[neon harness]

Weird, maybe major world quests then

[cold sierra]

New Chapter Ignited: Blaze to Natlan! Take part in the web event to win Primogems ×100 and other rewards! https://hoyo.link/ejyjFCAL?u_code=GBA8XGSKBN

[silk mango]

Is the update out?

[cold sierra]

1 more day

[silk mango]

Ok

[dapper jolt]

What does the next updates new summon mechanic supposed to do to help us?

[nova swift]

I assume you're talking about the new wishing mechanic

To put it simply, it turns a 50/50, into a 55/45

[dapper jolt]

Nice

[quaint fern]

wait that's low res

[dapper jolt]

Should I try to get kazuha or raiden?

[quaint fern]

wait nvm that was someone else

can you send your roster?

[keen bridge]

how do i place the charas signature building so i can get primos

in teapot

[quaint fern]

there should be a tab in teapot placement menu
for furniture sets or smth, I forget the exact name

[keen bridge]

where here

[quaint fern]

outdoor set iirc

and then there should be two tabs under that

[sage cypress]

oh my lordy lord guys what do i do.. she has r5 widsith btw and is currently 2pc dm and gd bc 😞

[wind bolt]

4pc dw

[atomic abyss]

Tomorrow is maintenance right? Cuz I was told it was on Tuesday but it wasn't

[wind bolt]

Over like 20 hours it starts i think

[atomic abyss]

So tomorrow

Ok thanks

[neat shuttle]

which one is better for clorinde and which one is better for arlecchino

[shadow lynx]

right one without question

[neat shuttle]

right one for arlecchino?

[umbral sedge]

Me when I read

[quaint fern]

yes

[dusty cape]

[sick quarry]

Can anyone help me make a team for mualani?

[strange scarab]

shes not even out

[sick quarry]

Ik.. Im wishing for her and id like to know what can work w her

[strange scarab]

thats the thing no one knows for sure because not everyone has access to her

any advices given right now is not reliable

better wait for further testing

[narrow folio]

Mfs can't wait one day

[sick quarry]

I was thinking on running bloom till i cam build pyro characters

[sick quarry]

Nope lmafo

[strange scarab]

a unit thats meant to play vape being put in bloom

[narrow folio]

Don't do that

[strange scarab]

smart

[sick quarry]

Till i can build some pyro character

[narrow folio]

Why not just build them first?

Like as a priority

[sick quarry]

Id like to get mualani first then build them, maybe at the same time since we can 60 her from doing her story quest

i have xiangling 60 so i can work on her first, i'll gather the materials then work on the boss mats after

Same with dehya

[strange scarab]

we would like to help if only said character is actually accessible by now

we wouldnt know whats best for her but we could tell you what doesnt sound good for her (playing her in non vape)

and heres the neat part: shes like 24 hours away from being released

so be patient

[robust marsh]

honestly, who should i get? Dehya or Mona?
how many characters do i have that work with either?

[trail delta]

U def can Genshin is a piss easy game and minmaxxing is never needed you can play emilie in non burn aswell

[strange scarab]

neither

[robust marsh]

my other choice is tighnari then

[wicked locust]

Pyro plunge Emilie with furina xianyun c6 Bennett 🗣️

[sick quarry]

I was thinking of until i build a pyro character, i'll prolly run her w nahida, raiden and dendro mc for now

[narrow folio]

I guess but if I'm pulling for a character I'd probably want them to be at their best

[trail delta]

Literally just play the comp you have fun with people that are shackled by forced roles and meta suck at the game anyways

[slender dust]

[lime hound]

Mualani doesn’t need a ton of pyro and also wants to steal all the field time, so it shouldn’t be super hard to build enough pyro for her as long as you can get EM to build back burst on your support

[wicked locust]

Agreeje
I'll never pull furina sole reason cause of meta

[quaint fern]

We only know that mualani is meant to be a forward vape carry because of zy0x, slow hydro + huge MV

[sick quarry]

xiangling is already 60 so i can level her upto 70 after im done mualani

[strange scarab]

while it is true that genshin is rather easy and how its not even a competitive game and that efficiency doesnt matter much outside of abyss which has timer in it, if they would rather run whatever they wanted to, im sure they wouldnt feel the need to ask advice here, no?

[trail delta]

My wrio has never seen a reaction team and still bombs 500k crits

[quaint fern]

I don't think you'll be running Furina because you'd hate to miss your vapes

[sick quarry]

Some youtubers have done videos on it, voltyea has a video mastering her in 7 days

[slender dust]

c6 wriot things

[trail delta]

[wicked locust]

Wait...
Can maulani plunge?

[narrow folio]

300ER Xiangling and Pneuma Furina

[narrow folio]

It would be a huge downgrade in damage but yes, she can

[quaint fern]

If you have Emilie, you might be able to try some funky burnvape shenanigans with XL + Emilie, idk

[lime hound]

Might be hard to get enough ER on Xiangling solo pyro, but you could swirl Guoba pyro with Kazuha maybe? IDK

[trail delta]

Asking the real shit

[strange scarab]

its probably going to be burnvape if you run her with xl but eh

[sick quarry]

I'll slap Dragons bane on her if anything

[slender dust]

mine is c2 so i kinda have to run him with ... something xD

[lime hound]

Sorry, meant ER not EM

[quaint fern]

She's probably HP scaling (look at her sig please) so Bennett will be a dead slot other than buffing xiangling who won't be build for DMG anyways because it looks like mualani will take your field time and shove it down her throat

[wicked locust]

It's done then
Plunge mualani with 300er em build xiangling 🗣️

[neon harness]

Burn is an option iirc

[quaint fern]

As for double hydro? Idk let tcers figure that out, idk if we'll have enough pyro application to risk having anyone in there

[narrow folio]

If that's what you wanna do then go ahead

[strange scarab]

why em build xl mualani is a forward vape dps no?

[wicked locust]

Nah am not pulling her...

[narrow folio]

Ok

[quaint fern]

If we see XL in mualani team I suspect it will be similar to ganyu melt, probably something like 240-50 ER WITH fav

[neon harness]

[quaint fern]

If she doesn't have innate IR? maybe we'll see dehya

We don't know enough besides the fact that you'll probably want to run vape/burnvape

[sick quarry]

so far ive seen for mualani
Baizhu, furina, dehya/xiangling
Nahida, emilie, dehya/xiangling
Xiangling, dehya, nahida/emilie
Thoma, emilie, dehya/xiangling
Emilie, nahida, thoma
Emilie, xiangling/dehya, zhongli
Zhongli, kazu, dehya/xiangling

[strange scarab]

so use one of those then

[quaint fern]

Does Thomas even work? Depends if her stuff is tagged as normal attack or not

[strange scarab]

problem solved

[sick quarry]

Its what ive seen being used

[quaint fern]

And judging by the fact that there's a shielder there, I'll assume no/low innate IR

[sick quarry]

Im asking what teams to use until i can build a pyro character

yes im burn-vape or vape are her best but currently only built pyro are hutao and arle

[quaint fern]

I'd be interested in seeing dehya Nahida Emilie but we'll see

Idk if dehya is fast enough pyro there

You can run Nahida on amber or smth

[strange scarab]

dehya's damage is negligible anyways no need to wait till you build her

[quaint fern]

Erm actually

It's more resin efficient to wait for wl 9

[neon harness]

🤓 👆

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[sick quarry]

I'll get emilie on her next run

All i got is nahida and dendro mc rn

[quaint fern]

Surely hoyo makes dehya 2.0 in natlan

[sick quarry]

mavuika

[strange scarab]

shes still here just pull emilie

[quaint fern]

Well worst case you just don't run Emilie in burnvape

I would skip if you dont have enough to guarantee both her and mualani

Nahida will be fine

[sick quarry]

Id prefer mualani since i have nahida and dendro mc i can use

[sick quarry]

I don't, im on a 5050, 52 pulls, 1.2k primos and 30 pity

[quaint fern]

Pick dehya as free 5* if you don't have her

[sick quarry]

I have her shes just not built

[quaint fern]

This way you can save Bennett xiangling for another team

[sick quarry]

I forgot yanfei is 80 but she wont help

[quaint fern]

Yeah you can just play Nahida dehya anemo for now ig

[sick quarry]

I was thinking of going mualani, nahida, raiden and kazuha till i can build a decent pyro character but i'll switch raiden for dehya

[robust marsh]

top reason to pick dehya over mona

fucking christ

[quaint fern]

You might as well just not play her at that point but okay

[neon harness]

Iirc Mualani has pretty slow hydro application

Hypabom iffy

[narrow folio]

She has good damage, there's no reason to play her in HB in the first place

[sick quarry]

Thats why i said id swap out raiden when dehya😭

[narrow folio]

No need to really mention Raiden then

[quaint fern]

you can use dehya at any level

level will just change how much dmg she can absorb

pryo application and IR is the same

also negligible dmg

[lyric cargo]

with slow hydro application in big hits, vape is really the only reaction that makes sense

transformative reactions (bloom, electro-charged, etc) would all benefit from faster application

[quaint fern]

^

[keen bridge]

how do i get stained masks quick which enemies in particular

[strange scarab]

any hilichurl except rogue hilichurls

[neon harness]

just use the ingame navigation for it, once you clear ur world, world jump for more

[opal surge]

Wait what's alternating cast again in IT?

What does this mean

[neon wave]

From what I understood you can add extra characters if you have more than required for your chosen difficulty

[opal surge]

Oh is alternate cast just normal characters within the elements

[sour copper]

How to get more inazuma lettuces?

[opal surge]

[sour copper]

What

[neon wave]

Alternate cast are just the characters you have available that aren't the opening/trial chars

[elder bluff]

how convenient when you can see how to get an item when you read description...

[opal surge]

thanks

[neon wave]

~~Not that we're going to have extra for visionary ~~

[elder bluff]

I don't like the mode that requires 22 chars

at least remove type restrictions

[opal surge]

Idk if I'll bother going for visionary in September

[elder bluff]

or remove the count

[neon wave]

Ye idk either I'd have to build a bunch of chars I'll probably never use

For a whole pull

[opal surge]

[minor gale]

how many simulanka world quests are there, and how long do they take?

[elder bluff]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Simulanka

[minor gale]

Dope ty

[mental storm]

Do these chests also count the ones from summer events?

[drowsy fable]

c2 kazuha or are natlan charas worth?

[neon harness]

they arent even released how are we supposed to know if they are meta (if thats what you mean by worth)

[lyric cargo]

some will probably be more worth than c2 Kaz
for the upcoming two, I'd wait until the last day of the banner and then decide based on actual abyss gameplay footage

[neon wave]

I believe so, but I'm not 100% sure

[jolly junco]

I dont think c2 kazuha is worth pulling for if someone is a low/non-spender, as there's a lot of teams where it's a pretty small increase for the amount of pulls

if kazuha is the only character on the team who cares about EM its a marginal dps increase over c0

[minor gale]

how do i get through this fan area in simulanka?

[elder bluff]

do the quest above

[opal surge]

Is there a good database that shows how often a skill hits? For example Im looking for how often/in what interval Oz hits right now

[rugged sparrow]

doesn't Genshin wiki have that

[opal surge]

Oh yeah it does

[rugged sparrow]

Oz attacks at 1-second intervals.

for the most part, Genshin wiki is pretty comprehensive for stuff like that

[opal surge]

Thats cool, I somehow didnt check the official wiki thanks

[rugged sparrow]

for more obscure info you'd probably have to look elsewhere though

[lyric cargo]

I legit thought they meant the fandom, that's the only wiki I associate with genshin 😅

[rugged sparrow]

yeah it is

[lyric cargo]

(fandom wiki also had it)

[rugged sparrow]

yep that's what I meant by genshin wiki

[lyric cargo]

yeah, the official wiki doesn't have it ^^
https://wiki.hoyolab.com/pc/genshin/entry/38

[rugged sparrow]

hoyo wiki

[lyric cargo]

seems like we don't think of that as a resource for a reason

[opal surge]

Oh yeah I treat the fandom as the official wiki

Idk why I said official

[jolly junco]

i do the same

the fandom wiki is much better than the hoyo wiki

[sick quarry]

Are skin mods bannable?

[strange scarab]

any kind of mods is bannable

[sick quarry]

Rip, alright, thanks

[sick quarry]

Interesting, thanks

[rugged sparrow]

(please don't encourage people to break tos)

[neon wave]

It's still against tos
That's just a "it's safe if you're not found out" kinda talk

[sick quarry]

Innocent until proven otherwise

[neon wave]

Mhm

[sick quarry]

Still wont do it btw

[wispy gull]

HELP AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS KNOCKED OFF FROM THE FROG LEAF QUEST IN SIMULANKA

Where you need to lower waterfalls for the blue frog

[near forge]

Guys I haven't played genshin in 2 years should i return for natlan?
I'm on 0 pity after pulling 2 nahidas and nilou in 60 pulls

[keen willow]

No you should wait some more for your characters to mature

[near forge]

Bet.

No but fr I'm not sure did genshin improve and all

[narrow folio]

If you're asking I'm assuming that Natlan looks interesting to you, so why not?

It's a new region

[near forge]

Bet

[silk mango]

Can someone please suggest to me 2 teams for the abyss floor 12

[modest kernel]

which 5 star should I get from the upcoming 5 star selector, btw add yelan to this picture since I recently got her

[silk mango]

Try to get kazuha. He is a great support

[modest kernel]

I meant the standard 5 star selector 😅

[silk mango]

Oh mb

[silk mango]

Just pick whoever you like.
I would personally recommend you to go for jean tho cuz she can be a good support

[modest kernel]

You know what, I'll pick her just because Barbara kinda useless in my team

[silk mango]

Ok

[lethal tundra]

should i just stop using my c1r1 hutao with 1 year worth of artifact farming that cannot deal over 60k and build my xiangling instead.

[fair torrent]

new 5.0 artifact mechanic might save you

[lethal tundra]

even my one week not even good artifact emilie already dealing more dps...

[jolly junco]

with what buffs though

actually just show the build

[lethal tundra]

i don't have zhongli and only have xingqiu c6 and kazuha

[jolly junco]

what levels are the talents

[lethal tundra]

10109

[jolly junco]

assuming it's a good set the only thing lacking is crit rate

[lethal tundra]

it was crimson witch

[jolly junco]

if you were to use bennett as the last team slot and actually swirl pyro you should be dealing significantly more damage

xiangling does not deal as much damage as a c1 r1 hu tao, does have better AoE and off-field damage though

[lethal tundra]

i just feel like it takes too much effort its already been 1 whole year of farming artifact im thinking about taking homa off to Xiangling instead

[jolly junco]

it doesn't look like a year of farming crimson witch though

[opal surge]

The build is kind of not that great tbh

good EM though

What is the team you play though?

[lethal tundra]

before it was Hutao Xingqiu Kazuha and albedo and sometime i'll use ayaka at last place or bennet

[opal surge]

kazuha can only swirl pyro if there is another pyro in the team, albedo and ayaka in the last teamslot kind of explain the low damage

its essentially no buffs hutao

[lethal tundra]

ye i used to use thoma too

[jolly junco]

he works but kinda just a downgrade from bennett

tighter setup and less damage overall

[lethal tundra]

its reached 65k but i keep seeing people hit over 100k charged does bennet buff really is that overpower

i thought bennet heal would overlap Hutao's passive

[jolly junco]

it essentially cancels out her passive

but he buffs more than what her passive gives her

it sounds like you're not swirling pyro though

[wet plank]

100k should be shime + vv vape setup region

[jolly junco]

No

[wet plank]

Issit not?

[jolly junco]

I hit that with double hydro and zl on crit with 90 crit rate (4pc cw), they also have c1 r1

[wet plank]

Oh they have C1R1

I thought it was dbane for a sec

Actually I forgor how much by double hydro tao hits for

[jolly junco]

I did put elegy on yelan and instructor on zhongli

but I don't play it anymore really

[lethal tundra]

i somehow deals more damage with dragon bane r5 than homa..

[jolly junco]

furina teams are better than traditional double hydro

[wet plank]

Sounds like 0 em subs?

[opal surge]

they have ~4

• em sands on homa

[jolly junco]

DB shouldn't deal more damage

[lethal tundra]

i did changed to an HP% sand for my DB

[jolly junco]

still its a pretty big gap between those weapons

[wet plank]

As I'm about to check this I realized this is my first time in almost 2 years where I'm actually playing tao below 50% hp

[jolly junco]

it's.. odd

[wet plank]

90k, sad

No ins and elegy ig

[brittle cipher]

when does the update come out again ?

[jolly junco]

it's 6.5 hours until maintenance starts, then up to 5 hours until it ends (it usually ends a bit sooner) unless it's delayed for some reason

[wet plank]

100k at tail end of yelan buff if ins

[brittle cipher]

okay thank you!!!

[wet plank]

There's a pin for timer in #💬gimshim-chat iirc

[lethal tundra]

i can reach 74k with zero EM build so i'll probably need to spend 1 more year into farming crimson witch

[jolly junco]

do you have furina?

[lethal tundra]

i just came back

[opal surge]

you are 1000% missing the pyro swirl

[lethal tundra]

it's with pyro swirl.

[opal surge]

I just went and checked with this build

with no set bonus, clip is uploading

[lethal tundra]

[jolly junco]

2pc MH you liar

[opal surge]

true, my bad

[lethal tundra]

should i just go build tighnari c0 cuz i just pulled emilie c2r1 this morning

[jolly junco]

damn c2 r1 emilie

she can deal some nasty damage at c2 r1

doesnt really fit with tighnari though

[lethal tundra]

i was just trying to get xiangling c6 my goal is only to get c1r1 but then 5 pulls in i got her c2.

[fair torrent]

i want to say why pulling for kinich might be better but i might get warned again

[lethal tundra]

i still have alot of unexplored content the whole desert and sumeru also

[jolly junco]

you can use a emilie, bennett, xiangling team with another character

but this would mean no bennett for hu tao

still its worth the sacrifice

bennett is generally included in her teams

[lethal tundra]

are eula even worth building now

[jolly junco]

from a "meta" perspective, no

[lethal tundra]

what team can i build with jean c1 mona c1 tighnari c0 ayaka c0 venti c0 gorou c0

[jolly junco]

well it depends who else you have, but considering you have a c1 r1 hu tao and c2 r1 emilie, I wouldn't build any of them if you want to focus on those two

[opal surge]

If you do want to give up on tao you can play ayaka kazuha mona +1 I guess

[lethal tundra]

i also have yelan signature so can i build any team revolve around tighnari that's kinda f2p i do have c6 sucrose c6 xiangling c4 fischl and c6 beidou

[fair torrent]

im on 50/50 and refuse to spend a dime on the game should i pull for mualani or wait until neuvillette gets out of banner jail but be possibly disappointed by losing it

[opal surge]

wdym out of banner jail, only shenhe is in there

[fair torrent]

anyway you get it

[opal surge]

if you can pull mualani in 5.0 you will be able to garantuee neuvilette anyway, even if you lose 50/50

[fair torrent]

wdym

[opal surge]

well you will get more pulls before neuvilette banner arrives

since hes not in 5.0

[fair torrent]

true

like i thought i might aswell pull mualani because i bet it will be at least half a year until neuvillette is available again

and i wouldnt mind eventually having both on my account

but i would still prefer neuvillette over her

[robust marsh]

bruh i cant beat floor 11 chamber 1 on 3 stars

the enemies deal too much dmg to the thing i gotta protect

nvmind finally got it, but geez those first ruin machines kept doing atleast 20%

[zenith thicket]

which of the standard guys should i get? im getting mualani too as long as i dont lose my 50/50
wanted the other guy also but burning 😔

[wind bolt]

Tighnari is good

[zenith thicket]

what would tighnari do?

[wind bolt]

Dendro dps

[zenith thicket]

what kind of team does tighnari even have

[wind bolt]

Aggrevate

Quicknloom i think

[median glade]

ok no quickbloom

[wind bolt]

Why tf u restricted

[brittle cipher]

have we got told yet of what elements are in imaginarium theatres next?

[opal surge]

Last time it was in the patch notes, so I think tomorrow

[silk mango]

Yeah
It's pyro dendro and hydro

[brittle cipher]

oh.😹

im so cooked

[quaint fern]

If you're cooked for the arguably 3 best elements in the game then idk what to tell you

[wet plank]

Tbf pyro has like

Mostly on fielders

You likely won't have that many of them built

[jolly junco]

they are making the requirements for entry easier for easy - hard mode at least, but visionary mode has a steeper requirement than hard mode now

[wet plank]

Hydro is... 5* city

[opal surge]

wait what are the guest stars?

wait... I'm actually not cooked I have 22

We're so back

[jolly junco]

unless it's truly very challenging

[opal surge]

all of them except the last 3 are built, surely itll be fine

[quaint fern]

• they're adding buffs to make scuffed reactions less scuffed

wasn't the bloom buff basically nilou?

[brittle cipher]

tbh i was only thinking about dendro 😹😹🙏🙏 you rught gang im not cooked

[quaint fern]

wait nvm theyre just exploding so fast because they hit the bloom core limit so quickly in the gif

(or it could be a nilou team, they dont show it)

[quaint fern]

I mean yeah but I only own two pyro on fielders so if they have the 4*s they should be fine

[wet plank]

Even most of the 4* are on fielders

[quaint fern]

okay I don't count yanfei

I'll just give her amber bc I have c4

[opal surge]

but do you count physical xinyan

[quaint fern]

we don't speak of xinyan in this house

currently I think I'm only lacking for this combo

but free kachina + MC + tighnari from selector puts me at 21

I'll probably pick up a geo dps some day just to round out my roster

[sour birch]

as long as hydro is one of the three it doesn't really matter what the other two are

i have like no dendro but that's alright

[quaint fern]

yeah basically me with cryo

I have enough for anything + cryo

I own more electro than hydro

[sour birch]

most people do

i'm not most people

[sly lava]

just help, pls idk what i am doing wrong

[neon harness]

Benny

• use hyro/hp goblet, hp/hb if you want to go for pure heal benny, keep crit if you want dmg
• only other thing is 80/90 and crown his burst if you want to do that
  Nahida
• lvl 90, her and her weapon
  Yae
• assuming aggravate team, lvl 90 her
• more crit rate
  Nuevi
• overcapped crit rate
• crown na
• keep farming
• look at weapon rankings for him and decide wether you want to stick with lost prayer or give him proto amber and lost prayer to someone else
  Cyno
• more em
  Ganyu
• depending on team/team buffs, em sands
• can refine the bow
  Zhongli
• he’s fine, can also use fav for energy gen
  Ayato
• better circlet

[sly lava]

is proto amber better than the lost prayer?

[neon harness]

https://keqingmains.com/neuvillette/

[brittle cipher]

cant log into genshin/enka so.. but how do i improve xiangling, she has been rocking this build for the last 1/2 years😞 ( 4pc purple one in inazuma, i forgot whats it called)

[sly lava]

ty

[neon harness]

Enka prolly down cus of maintenance, if you are using emblem, pyro goblet, crit circlet, this is good

And also if er is enough for the team you have her on

[brittle cipher]

okay coolio ty ^-^ (yes i am using those main stats)

and fischl would need to changr from thundering fury to golden troupe?

[neon harness]

Golden troupe is better, so if you want to refarm for her, sure

[brittle cipher]

gotta farm for neuvillette anyway so 😞🙏 2 in 1 deal

[atomic abyss]

Maintenance ends at 10 or 11 right?

[quaint fern]

:Primogem: Version 5.0 Update :Primogem:
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5.0 Maintenance and Pre-Installation

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Pre-Installation: The Pre-Installation function is now available!
Times are automatically converted to your time zone!
5.0 Livestream Summary
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/32184368
5.0 Events Overview
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/32169405
5.0 Benefits and Optimizations
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/32168983
"Capturing Radiance" Mechanic
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/32168979
Phase 1 Events Preview
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/32490814

5.0 Banners
Phase 1:

5⭐ Mualani and Kazuha
4⭐ Kachina, Bennett, and Xinyan
Phase 2:
5⭐ Kinich and Raiden Shogun
4⭐ TBA

[haughty hawk]

treenom

[neon harness]

💋

[dusty cape]

2.5 hours blargh

[haughty hawk]

yuj

[neon harness]

Wot

[haughty hawk]

💋

[quaint fern]

Heyyyyyyy

[neon harness]

Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[strange scarab]

server up

[neon harness]

sheesh, already, damn

[dusty cape]

I can sleep at a reasonable time after the update

[silk mango]

Thank you

[forest venture]

👋

[quaint fern]

wait did they get rid of the old first chamber with the ruin guard

[fallen topaz]

Is it better to get a Mona or someone else for the free 5*? I have everyone except her.

[quaint fern]

world lvl ascension quest is so short now 😔

[haughty lotus]

Depends on what teams you play or if you like her. She’s basically only used in freeze

[forest venture]

i'd get her just in case i need another unit for this coming imaginarium update

(pyro, hydro, dendro)

5.0 and they still did not fix the lip sync on voices

[violet cipher]

I got c4 Mona, c3 Jean and Furina, c1 Diluc though I have Hu Tao and Arlechino, c0 qiqi, c4 Mona, no Keqing but I have a built Chevruse, c1 Tignari (I don’t really use him but he is 90) and a c0 Dehya.
I want constellations for Dehya but how would my choice compare to the best option for my account?
Do you need more info for your conclusion?

[cloud siren]

guys who should i pull? kazuha or mualani better for me?

[haughty lotus]

If you don’t use tighnari then yeah just get dehya

[forest venture]

kazuha since he can fit into many teams (heck even in a mualani team). if meta is not your taste, just pull for who you really like and you won't regret

[spiral mantle]

is mualani furina nahida xiangling good or is furina gonna disrupt pyro app

[haughty lotus]

No healer so Furina isn’t doing much anyways

[neon harness]

@haughty lotus
c3 nari, c0 jean, c3 keqing, c4 mona,
who do i get

[neon harness]

brother what is that pfp

[haughty lotus]

Blorp

[haughty lotus]

Dehya

[neon harness]

time to block, jean it is ig

[haughty lotus]

You really don’t have Jean

[neon harness]

wot

[haughty lotus]

You have xianyun so not that much Jean use

[neon harness]

but c4 jean

[haughty lotus]

C6 faruzan

[neon harness]

zug

[haughty lotus]

Ma

I’d get tighnari ig

Nah I’d get Jean for having a new character but tighnari would be optimal

[neon harness]

😔 id say i dont use him but i dont use any of them, maybe its time to finally try hypabom nari

[haughty lotus]

Shelf.

[neon harness]

i ned a wanderer and pyro archon banner so i can get faru cons

[neat shuttle]

which free 5 star do i get? the standard banner 5 stars i have is c1 mona and c0 keqing.

[neon harness]

the one you like the most, or send roster

[neat shuttle]

alright. heres my characters

[neon harness]

jean or tighnari

[neat shuttle]

reasoning?

[neon harness]

nari is best standard dps, jean for teamwide heal, can be paired with furina

[neat shuttle]

damn, idk what to choose then. both of them sound good.

[forest venture]

🤠 🤠 🤠

[neon harness]

pull or no pull mualani

her trial grounf is so fun

[haughty lotus]

Best girl

But don’t pull || so I can steal your materials ||

[neon harness]

nu

[neon harness]

guess who got her

[plucky dragon]

guys who should i pick for the free 5* event? c4 mona or c0 tighnari? he's the only standard 5* character i dont have and c4 mona is good as support (but so is he so idk im stuck 🥲)

[neon harness]

imo choose the one you dont have cus theres a chance that gacha never gives him to u

[plucky dragon]

mmm thts fair tyy

[haughty lotus]

Whom

[neon harness]

u

[haughty lotus]

Ik

[nimble scaffold]

Guys, c4 diluc or c0 mona? Does giving up mona for that extra 40% dmg on diluc skill worth it or nah?

[neon harness]

roster?

[nimble scaffold]

Currently
C2 jean, c3 diluc, c1 qiqi, c1 keqing

[neon harness]

i mean like ur entire acc, a ss

[nimble scaffold]

Ooh

[neon harness]

like if you have a ayaka without a koko, but generally i recomend getting a new character

[haughty lotus]

No need to bring up zhongli like that…

[forest venture]

especially when imaginarium needs pyro, hydro, and dendro next season

[neon harness]

zugma

[lyric cargo]

her buff doesn't last very long, so Mona is mostly known for big screenshot damage. But if you want a good support, there are better options out there

all the standard chars are ultimately somewhat replaceable, though there's also Imaginarium Theater to consider

[lyric cargo]

the only somewhat valuable constellations are Tighnari's, Dehya's, and c4 Jean iirc

so those are the options with long-term value, if you assume you'll play long enough to get at least one copy of each at some point

I might be forgetting one

[sour birch]

should i go for weapons now

[nimble scaffold]

I'm mostly getting mona cuz waifu meta, but I'm worried if c4 diluc is something I shouldn't miss

[sour birch]

diluc is ass (biased)

i mean if u use diluc i guess maybe it's useful but diluc has been obsolete for literally years atp imo

[lyric cargo]

(unrelated to the standard 5★ question I assume? ^^)

I think it's more worth it, though if you want to be patient you'll still only do it when both weapons are at least somewhat useful

[haughty lotus]

It’s not very good and you have 2 better pyro dps anyways

[sour birch]

yeah, i have kaz and mualani now

i have 6 pulls left and haven't started any of the content for this version

[nimble scaffold]

Alrighty

[lyric cargo]

there's Xianyun plunge, which kinda revived him

but his constellations don't really add much to it, afaik

[nimble scaffold]

Mona it is, thanks everyone

[sour birch]

me personally i would never pull a limited unit just to be able to use diluc

[feral forge]

dehya or jean?

[feral forge]

dehya or jean

[sour birch]

i like jean more and you can probably actually find a use for her

[feral forge]

gotcha

carl said the same

[lyric cargo]

I pulled c1 Xianyun to jump around in overworld

I have to say, it was worth it

[sour birch]

better reason to pull than giving diluc utility

[sour birch]

lol im the second opinion to carl

[lyric cargo]

(I mainly wanted her because she's good with Furina. Unfortunately my Neuvilette always wants her.)

[sour birch]

oh did you see what happened with my mualani pulls

[feral forge]

[lyric cargo]

I did not 😅
did it take 180

[sour birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978725965654016063/1278179729979084882/RPReplay_Final1724812117.mov?ex=66cfdd23&is=66ce8ba3&hm=5066eaf1bd3b4a9952b7b1adea3a67843f660f76a8985cb582bdefc448e36094&

jumpscare at the end

i had 32 pity and no guarantee before

then i did 40 wishes

[lyric cargo]

oh, you did 10-pulls
uncontrolled second 5-stars are why I never do them ^^

[sour birch]

this was the fifth ten pull

[sour birch]

it worked out

[lyric cargo]

thank you for joining me, traveler

Mualani got it straight, she's not joining us. We're joining her.

[sour birch]

real

[midnight mulch]

between keqing and jean, which one is more worth it the constelation? my jean is c2 while keqing is c1

[shadow lynx]

Account wise Jean is way more valuable, as a Keqing Mega simp Keqing is SUPER mid and you need insane vertical investment for her to feel like she's doing damage

[lyric cargo]

jean c4 has some limited uses
keqing constellations aren't that great afaik

[midnight mulch]

alright thanks for the help guys 👍

[haughty lotus]

Neither tbh, Jean c4 is rarely used when faruzan exists

[shadow lynx]

For reference this is a top 1% build and her numbers are meh

[midnight mulch]

eh no thanks

my mistsplitter already used on ayaka

yeah , i already choose jean c3 for the reward

[lyric cargo]

it's for Bennett

[midnight mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[shadow lynx]

plus this look hawt

https://tenor.com/view/jean-gif-21956325

[lyric cargo]

(I won't pull Ayaka since she feels too limited in team options, but if it's on banner with another good weapon, and I get it, I'll put it on bennett)

I'll probably get c2 Tighnari and see how long it takes to get c6

[unkempt river]

4 more years at max

[lyric cargo]

but I'll wait until near the end of the selector

but I might not use him much even at c6, can't say

[glass pasture]

Tighnari never comes home for me so i got him to c1 over c6 dehya

[lyric cargo]

my short term option is Mona, as another hydro for Theater and to discount my weapon ascension farming ^^

but I assume I'll get her c0 eventually

[unkempt river]

this sucks

[lyric cargo]

..oh

I wasn't aware there's a limit of 1

[stark sandal]

which one should i get?

i have jean c5, mona c3, diluc c2, dehya c1, tighnari, qiqi, keqing

[atomic abyss]

How does the new event work?

[atomic abyss]

If you like tighnari and have him built then get him c1 for 15% crit rate on his CA

[stark sandal]

i dont like him

[shadow lynx]

QIQI all the way

[stark sandal]

no

[unkempt river]

C1 Tigh?

[stark sandal]

its either mona c4 or jean c6

[unkempt river]

C6 Jean is a flex though

[atomic abyss]

C4 Mona then

[unkempt river]

WHat why

what does Mona C4 do

[stark sandal]

nah i'll go wiht jean c6

[unkempt river]

hmmm

[stark sandal]

acutally nuhhh i dont know

i'll go with mona maybe? (js because if i then get c7 jean it'd be all wasted?

[atomic abyss]

Yeah just go Mona or tighnari

[stark sandal]

do you have the returning stellar player event thingy too?? i shouldnt have it

[atomic abyss]

No

[stark sandal]

what the flip

[lyric cargo]

Do we know how to get Kachina, yet?
Is this it?

[atomic abyss]

I think you get her while doing the new archon quest

Check the events tab

[forest venture]

do the first part of act 1 natlan and you get her

[sour birch]

just do archon quest

[lyric cargo]

oh.. time to finish fontaine's

[atomic abyss]

What's the new event about

[midnight mulch]

for arlecchino is it better use pyro goblet or atk % goblet?

[atomic abyss]

You can just skip Fontaine and start it already in the events tab also

[lyric cargo]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

Pyro gob

[stark sandal]

can you name me which teams should i use? (a character can be in multiple team)

[unique grail]

so which 5 star should i get? i have almost have them all at c0 except for tighnari whos at c1 and the only ones i dont have are keqing and mona

[lyric cargo]

I don't think there's much of fontaine's left, I just stopped when I saw how many long-term encounter points archon quests give
felt like a waste to get them when they're about to be reset

[atomic abyss]

What's the new event about

[stark sandal]

are these 4 good enough actually?

which artifact (raiden c2) should i change also?

[atomic abyss]

You can run a Raikou team if you want with Raiden, yae, xiangling and chevvy

[stark sandal]

i have chevr c6 and sara c6 also btw ben c6 too

[atomic abyss]

Then you have a lot of team options

Kind of depends on who you wanna play most tbh

[stark sandal]

i dont know, i js wanna play what's best ig

[atomic abyss]

Also if you can then change into a electro gob with equal stats

[neon harness]

Abyss teams?

[stark sandal]

i dunno, sure i guess

[quaint fern]

current abyss you can navia 2nd half and then do whatever 1st half as long as it has enough dps

[stark sandal]

did they add a 9th world ascension?

[haughty lotus]

Send your roster

[atomic abyss]

Can run hutao because of the tulpa on 1st chamber 2nd half

[atomic abyss]

Ye, needs lvl 58

[stark sandal]

im lvl 59

its weird how enemies can be lvl 100 while you're stuck at 90

[quaint fern]

it should be in your quest log then

[unique grail]

wdym by that?

[atomic abyss]

What's the new event about

[quaint fern]

this @unique grail

[haughty lotus]

A screenshot of all your characters

[atomic abyss]

Different guy

[stark sandal]

which

[atomic abyss]

The artistry thing, don't really wanna log on rn

[quaint fern]

that's an example of what we're asking for

[atomic abyss]

Oh ok

[neon harness]

Hutao furina yelan xianyun
Hutao xingqiu yelan flex
Navia albedo Benny xiangling/fosshl/flex
Xiao furina sucrose xianyun
Ganyu Benny xiangling Zhongli
Xingqiu yelan xiangling Benny
Nahida xingqiu yelan kuki
Raiden xingqiu xiangling Benny
Nahida/yaoyao/kirara yae foschl sucrose
Nuevi fishl/zhongli furina xianyun

[quaint fern]

ganyu

yeah you shouldn't play ganyu in 2024

[stark sandal]

why not? i have skyward harp too

[neon harness]

😔 @pablo

[stark sandal]

who is fosshl now? 😭

[quaint fern]

she uses your bennett xiangling, this isn't even me gatekeeping her

[atomic abyss]

I think you'd want grouping in 1st half

[neon harness]

Fat fingered fischl

[unique grail]

@haughty lotus thats all i have

[quaint fern]

ganyu uses too many valuable units

now if only hyv would let us get rid of xiangling oh I wish I could

[neon harness]

That list was abyss teams in general, not this abyss

[atomic abyss]

Mona, jean, or c1 tighnari

[stark sandal]

should i play all these teams or just some? which of these would you play?

[haughty lotus]

Tighnari constellations. It’s fine if you want a new character tho

[atomic abyss]

Considering on how many teams in general there are, just play whatever you want as long as it can clear

[quaint fern]

if you want to play new theatre mode you should pick someone new just to expand yoru roster

[stark sandal]

nonono dont tell me to pick what i want because i cant even pick a lane in league of legends

[neon harness]

Listen asking me for teams I would play isn’t a good idea, I play only 2 teams cus I have skill issue
Nahida xingqiu yelan kuki
Furina nuevi zhongli kaz

[quaint fern]

we have no idea how well built your own characters are

[stark sandal]

well well built, i use optimizer

[haughty lotus]

They gotta release a good off field pyro soon since mualani just feels unfinished lol

[unique grail]

i dont know whether i should get mona or another con for tighnari because is at c1

[stark sandal]

i have broken artifacts but only got 372

[quaint fern]

oh is dehya not sufficient?

[haughty lotus]

It works

[quaint fern]

have you tried burnvape mr cicles

[neon harness]

320 er xiangling better be good enough, fav time
Xiangling furina kazuha

[atomic abyss]

Then go Mona, enemies move a lot so you probably won't be able to use c2 fully

[haughty lotus]

A bit

[stark sandal]

no zhongli in the navia team?

[quaint fern]

you can use either

[unique grail]

is keqing just not good anymore tho? like is she only good in like hyperbloom or aggravate teams?

[neon harness]

He works as well as a second geo if you need the shielding, you already use Benny so you don’t need a defensive option

[stark sandal]

for the xiao one, i have jean c6, should i play her ? 😄

[haughty lotus]

Mona isn’t good outside of freeze. Could be useful if you need characters for theatre tho

[quaint fern]

in before furina summons hit right before mualani which makes you miss a vape

[atomic abyss]

I thought you had jean c5

[quaint fern]

well for current abyss I would err on the side of zhongli because you'll get one tapped by mr tulpa 😍

[haughty lotus]

in before you die from frina drain

[unique grail]

doesnt she buff tho? idk what exactly

[stark sandal]

oh wait, i just realized even though i already knew it before that i got jean c6 instead of mona c4💀🙏

[forest venture]

i'll let my name echo in song, as they say

[haughty lotus]

Yes, very short duration tho. Freeze can extend it

[forest venture]

she echoed all of mualani vapes without her vaping

[neon harness]

I don’t know, maybe try seeing the optimizer Xiao with the 2 options

[stark sandal]

sucrose mid L
jean wins

[neon harness]

Shit I forgot I had no healer on that team, too used to nuevi self heal

[atomic abyss]

Well that's sad

[haughty lotus]

Mualani nahida Kuki yelan

[neon harness]

Real

[haughty lotus]

False.

[quaint fern]

your brain after rotting bc neuvi gameplay

https://youtube.com/v/2j7P9P1ehx4?si=PKGCan5kMtyBBB5a

[neon harness]

Hypablum and nuevi makes my brain rot fr

[stark sandal]

my raiden is c2, are there better options than that?

[atomic abyss]

Raiden overcarry with Raiden, Sara, Bennet and chevvy

Rational is purely reaction based

[stark sandal]

why xianyun on the last neuvi team??

[neon harness]

Raiden c6 Sara Benny kazuha xianyun? Idk
Maybe try the overload team with gun girl that someone else suggested

[quaint fern]

i'm still cryo pilled so I'm trying to figure out why my new tighnari is doing zero dmg

a) lvl 6 talents
b) lvl 70/70
c) bad team? (double electro is probably just fischl driver huh?)
d) artifact issue
e) i'm brain rotted from cryo pill
f) all of the above

[neon harness]

Vv

[atomic abyss]

Why Raiden plunge 😭

[atomic abyss]

F

[stark sandal]

Hutao furina yelan xianyun
Navia albedo benny xiangling
Xiao furina jean xianyun
Ganyu benny xiangling zhongli
Raiden sara benny chevr
nahida yae fischl zhongli
Nuevi zhongli furina xianyun

are these fine?

[neon harness]

Can be subbed with Jean sucrose etc

[quaint fern]

if c6 chevy then I'd use her over xianyun

[atomic abyss]

Kazuha tho

[neon harness]

Ya

I didn’t see kazuha or am I blind

[stark sandal]

uh now can you write them in order with 1) 2) .. depending on which one should i build first and 2nd and yk what i mean cmon?

[atomic abyss]

For the neuvi team it's either jean or sucrose cuz no way in hell you're playing neuvi plunge

[forest venture]

Who do you like the most 👀

[stark sandal]

im not plunging lol

[atomic abyss]

Use jean then 😭

[forest venture]

one dps then i give you the rest

[stark sandal]

what? wdym

[forest venture]

give me a dps you truly want then i'll hand over the supports you will want and need to build

[stark sandal]

navia

[atomic abyss]

Also do NOT do double healer with Jean and xianyun on the Xiao team. It's either faruzan or replace xianyun with Benny boy

[stark sandal]

but if i build navia first with optimizer then it'll give me artifacts that i'd better use on other characters

[forest venture]

furina/fischl, jean, benny (from left to right)

[stark sandal]

wait so do i build navia first or the supports? im confused

[forest venture]

navia comes first

[strange scarab]

ok

[stark sandal]

UMH NO WAY 1ST 10 PULL

[atomic abyss]

What'd you get

[forest venture]

did it become an intertwined fate?

[neon harness]

I’d go nuevi first, considering c2 raiden, raiden next, maybe nahida next, u are gonna just mostly stick with emblem and hunter domain and strongbox the rest, idk if navias set is in strongbox yet, if it is, strongbox, if it’s not that’s another domain you gonna do if you want to build navia

[stark sandal]

no

[atomic abyss]

Lucky free c1 tighnari

[stark sandal]

i lost my 18th 50/50

[strange scarab]

yeah sure that happened

[stark sandal]

its fine, i'll have time to get kazuha in 20 days

[atomic abyss]

Kazuha versatile asf

[stark sandal]

's he bad?

[forest venture]

he's still amazing

[shadow lynx]

Tigh is a solid Dendro carry

[stark sandal]

disgusting character

who even is this girl

[atomic abyss]

New geo character

She's the geo kirara

[stark sandal]

bro is this whole natlan? 💀

[forest venture]

sub dps ish

[stark sandal]

no way

[atomic abyss]

Bro wait till they add more

The amount of oculus is gonna be insane

[stark sandal]

why did they add so few tho

[forest venture]

or there are more underground exploration

[stark sandal]

should i pull kazuha or the hydro girl?

[atomic abyss]

Ye smth like that

[atomic abyss]

Depends on who you want

Just try out mualani first then make a decision

[shadow lynx]

do their trials tbh it does an amazingly good represenation of how they play out

[stark sandal]

what is this ..

she's disgusting..

[atomic abyss]

Exploration capabilities and combat

She's like a yelan and furina, 2 in 1

[strange scarab]

more underground layers

[shadow lynx]

But nothing can ever compare to mommy Yelan

[stark sandal]

no bcs im not doing thsi long ahh trial 💀

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't even take 10 minutes

[strange scarab]

doesnt even take 1 min

genshin players when they had to put in the slightest effort for anything

[stark sandal]

can someone expalin me rq how do natlan characters work? why are their abilities and eveyrthing else idk different from other characters?

[elder bluff]

read their skills

[stark sandal]

no..

[atomic abyss]

The 3 new Natlan characters are like for overworld. they have longer exploration in Natlan but shorter in other regions

[elder bluff]

then why ask when you can't bother to do urself?

[stark sandal]

oh wait i understood how does the hydro dud work

you basically have stacks on your e

when you go inside of enemies

idk

[unique canyon]

Uhh what's this?

[atomic abyss]

She gets one stack everytime she passes through an enemy, 0.5 interval I think, and once she gets 3 stacks she does extra damage. She can attach it to 3 other enemies (or more I forgot) and they get hit also when mualani attacks with 3 stacks

[atomic abyss]

You're quest locked

[stark sandal]

how can this be a support, she literally just spam jumps like xiao

[strange scarab]

As you can see (if you actually could) it says theres a quest that prevents you from doing so

[unique canyon]

How I will unlock it

[strange scarab]

u press her skill then swap to leave geo construct good lord try to read their kit for once

[unique canyon]

No need to be rude,lil guy,I'm just asking a question

[atomic abyss]

If you press the skill then she launches her beyblade without riding it

[atomic abyss]

Just check your quest logs

[stark sandal]

nah im too lazy

[strange scarab]

no worries lil guy im just pointing out what the words on your screen says

youre welcome

[unique canyon]

Well you're wrong,lil guy, the quest is the event last night ended and I can't access it coz the event ended,lil guy

[primal latch]

Is 5.0 live now??m

[forest venture]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

Yah

[atomic abyss]

Try restarting your game or smth

[primal latch]

I forgot to dl in advance i thought its still in a few days tyty

[stark sandal]

shouldnt i build all the DPSs first then?

[forest venture]

best if you build a full team first, then the rest follows

[stark sandal]

actually uhh what if imma tell ya ganyu?
(bcs if i dont do her first then hu tao and raiden will take her artifacts, and sara her bow)

[strange scarab]

so restart the game then all i did was just repeating what the screen says

[atomic abyss]

Are you currently playing ganyu?

[stark sandal]

no, she's unbuilt i gotta build them all

@forest venture i changed again, what abt hu tao? i have homa too soo

[unique canyon]

Yea no shi, Sherlock

[atomic abyss]

Then hu tao I guess

[stark sandal]

yea but which supports after hu tao

[atomic abyss]

Your Raiden build is good enough anyway

[stark sandal]

she uses ganyu's artifs tho

[forest venture]

for ganyu, you can full hp dehya and leave her be, then you can do nahida and benny.
hu tao and xq surely, then do supports you want (kazuha, shielder, etc.) just make sure you stick to characters that don't need much investment (like the ones that use em/hp full stat)

[stark sandal]

its complicated uhhhhh

[stark sandal]

dehya..?

[atomic abyss]

What set are you running on ganyu

[stark sandal]

4 wanderer

optimizer says 2 wand 2 crims on hutao

[atomic abyss]

Ok that kind of make sense but how does Raiden take ganyus artifacts??

[stark sandal]

wait she's not in field

there

[stark sandal]

tbh? i dont know, i dont remember

[forest venture]

if you don't have her, you can use her in freeze with diona, mona, and venti. (if i recall from one of your lists)

[stark sandal]

i have dehya c1 but she isnt in the teams list . .
dont have venti too

Hutao furina yelan xianyun Navia albedo benny xiangling Xiao furina jean xianyun Ganyu benny xiangling zhongli Raiden sara benny chevr nahida yae fischl zhongli Nuevi zhongli furina xianyun

[atomic abyss]

Ahh yes, the classic Morgana team

[forest venture]

oh then you can build dehya. c1 is just her dmg increase but that's not the point of your team

[stark sandal]

why dehya and not ganyu? 😭

[forest venture]

no like ganyu, dehya, nahida, benny

[stark sandal]

im confused

[atomic abyss]

The reverie set also works if you're gonna play burnmelt ganyu

[forest venture]

it's great for overcoming world level 9

[stark sandal]

dont know what kind of set that is

[forest venture]

you don't use dehya as dps, you just use dehya skill, nahida skill, benny burst, then ganyu shots

[strange scarab]

very very niche

[forest venture]

i'd farm emblem instead

[atomic abyss]

It's just a recommendation but yea, emblem more resin efficient

[stark sandal]

wait how does the 1st team work? do both yelan and xianyun work together huhh? @forest venture

[urban ivy]

Anyone else got the stellar reunion even altho they've been playing?

[stark sandal]

me

[forest venture]

it's like the standard vape team but you plunge after you do n1cj

[stark sandal]

so normal attack, charged, plunge, repeat ?

[forest venture]

yeap

[neon wave]

It's been under maintenance and wasn't available until the 5.0 update
You likely met requirements for it earlier this month (but didn't get it) and only just now got it

[stark sandal]

@forest venture what were the supports to build first again?

[feral reef]

vros could this work for a dehya team

[forest venture]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Would kind of go rosaria but ye unless it's ganyu that's doing the main DPS

[feral reef]

i want main dps dehya but no c1 😔

[forest venture]

use the team shown in the picture above if you like to build ganyu first

[stark sandal]

i dunno, do you recommend dehya or xiangling?

[atomic abyss]

Xiangling for more damage, dehya for more IR

[forest venture]

xl is better in that case but you'll need a shielder like zhongli and it's challenging to play without one

[feral reef]

do i keep on her the craftable

[forest venture]

and i assume you'll use it more on hu tao

[stark sandal]

what is IR?

[forest venture]

interruption resistance

[atomic abyss]

Interruption resistance.

[stark sandal]

oh

how does she give ganyu ir?

[atomic abyss]

Ye

[forest venture]

dehya gives IR to a nearby team using her skill

[feral reef]

actually could this work

[atomic abyss]

Although would be better if you had hamayumi

[atomic abyss]

Kinda but you'd need to be attacked and then healed consistently

[quaint fern]

don't even bother

[haughty lotus]

Just refine your prototype crescent

[stark sandal]

what about dehya in the navia team too?

[atomic abyss]

Just get hamayumi

[forest venture]

song of stillness

[quaint fern]

just keep in mind that we don't actually recommend burnmelt in ganyumains

it's still not as consistent as bennett xiangling

[feral reef]

i want dehya team

[quaint fern]

same ganyu team for four years :icant:

[forest venture]

i'd use fischl/zhongli over dehya

[quaint fern]

the only thing that has changed is ganyu weapons and xiangling artifacts and weapons

[atomic abyss]

Then just run rosaria and replace nahida with an anemo

[haughty lotus]

Susge

[feral reef]

no matter what, ill run the shown team for now cuz i only have to build dehya

[quaint fern]

actually you should just try dehya nahida xingqiu kuki

[feral reef]

then once shes 90 10/10/10
ill look at other stuff

[atomic abyss]

Use anemo instead of nahida cuz then you won't even be melting

[forest venture]

what is xq there for

[haughty lotus]

Who is your pfp lil bro

[atomic abyss]

Hyperburgeon is pretty good too

[feral reef]

kangkang, valorant champs 2024 mvp from china

[haughty lotus]

Whoa

[atomic abyss]

To make cores

For hyperbloom and burgeon

[feral reef]

would fufu be better or nah

[quaint fern]

nah

[forest venture]

with nahida as driver... right

[atomic abyss]

Bruh just send a roster so we know which to choose for you

[feral reef]

damn mualani kinda....

NO I MUST SAVE

[haughty lotus]

False

[feral reef]

i need mauvika and xilonen c2 r1 or something

[haughty lotus]

Nah

[atomic abyss]

We don't even know what they do

[feral reef]

does that matter

[atomic abyss]

Wait yes

[urban ivy]

Is it gonna take 4 patch for you to make your custom goblet?

[feral reef]

man im gonna main dehya now, i dont care about meta anymore

[atomic abyss]

Considering the fact that you can only get one for now then yes, unless you have BP, damn autocorrect

[urban ivy]

Quite a dissapoinment

[strange scarab]

you can get elixir from the tribe

[haughty lotus]

Dehyarina benjamin xiangling/suc

[strange scarab]

[unique grail]

so would mona be worth pulling from the free 5 star event if you have characters like kaeya and rosaria?

[atomic abyss]

Haven't done the quest yet, so nice

[urban ivy]

How many?

[feral reef]

im about to gyat kazuha, replace suc with kaz?

[haughty lotus]

Yes

[strange scarab]

are you planning to play freeze for a long term

[feral reef]

OH SHIT WAIT

[strange scarab]

mid

[unique grail]

im planning to get wrio and ayato if that helps

[feral reef]

i dont care i lov eher

[atomic abyss]

C1 dehya lol

[haughty lotus]

Now she scales on hp yippee

[strange scarab]

ayato sucks in freeze anw

[feral reef]

why did it take me 2 years for this

[haughty lotus]

It’s basically just ayaka people play with Mona

There’s Ganyu but no one plays freezyu anymore

[strange scarab]

i miss memecycles

[haughty lotus]

Same

[feral reef]

where he go

[strange scarab]

reduced to atoms

[fallen topaz]

Are the craftable weapons for Natlan given through missions or something else?

[feral reef]

c1 make her better on fielder right

[strange scarab]

from web event

[haughty lotus]

Yes vro

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[unique grail]

so ayaka and wrio would in mona teams but not work well with ayato?

[fallen topaz]

I mean the plans to make them. I already claimed those

[feral reef]

i finally get use

[atomic abyss]

Wrio you can also play in melt but ayaka no since she won't even melt

[feral reef]

is mono pyro or furina dehya better

[strange scarab]

Freeze is just ass these days

[stark sandal]

@forest venture uh can you remind me which characters im supposed to build first?

[atomic abyss]

Furina dehya

[feral reef]

ok guys now i get kazuha in 10 pulls and its all good

[atomic abyss]

Cope

[silk mango]

Hi
How long does it take to complete all archon quests before natlan?

[feral reef]

i forgot to farm the mats

[haughty lotus]

She isn’t good with wrio

[feral reef]

its happened a few times now vro

[unique grail]

wouldnt tho because you can delay omen timer in freeze comps or is there something i dont understand?

[stark sandal]

what do i choose for furina to optimize?

[feral reef]

what set should i use for dehyarina?

[haughty lotus]

His charge attack shatters

[haughty lotus]

Embwem

[feral reef]

ok i was just checking, as kqm said the calcs were for mono so i thought it potentially could be different

[unique grail]

what if i dont use charge attacks? would be that be less beneficial?

[atomic abyss]

On who? Wrio? If so then CA would be for later cons, c0 is gonna be solely focused on NA

[haughty lotus]

Big loss

[unique grail]

mona and wrio team comp, im planning to get wrio in the future

wrio being the main dps

[atomic abyss]

Just use furina with Charlotte. Omen uptime too short for wrio

[unique grail]

gotcha

thanks

because i feel like the team comps are limited with mona so i kinda now not sure if i should get a c1 diluc or a c2 tighnari

[feral reef]

shit i just realised xilo is next update 😢

[haughty lotus]

Who

[strange scarab]

Xilophone vro

[haughty lotus]

Ah

[atomic abyss]

Mona is still pretty good don't get me wrong, just not on characters on field for a long time

[strange scarab]

shes pretty much just meant to be in freeze teams thats it

[unique grail]

yeah i guess that makes sense

[haughty lotus]

Tighnari, diluc cons are

[unique grail]

yeah i think i might get c2 tighnari

[feral reef]

as someone with c3 diluc, +1