📌gimshim-help

[rigid bobcat]

how much money per run?

[jolly junco]

it's claimed to be 80 stamina worth, so that would be the equivalent of 240000 Mora

assuming wl6+

[wet plank]

It's like only 70k mora, since destroying arti exp for mora doesn't have the best rates

[jolly junco]

i assume it means in the mora cost saved from leveling artifacts

[wet plank]

70k arti exp by itself is about 80 resin though

[lyric cargo]

I didn't get what 80 stamina is supposed to be
the only thing I can think of as stamina is the resource used for dashing / etc 😅

oh, is stamina = resin?

I got around 80k artifact exp per run, or 80k mora

[jolly junco]

this is my guess

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I thought leveling with artifact fodder still takes mora

[jolly junco]

the equivalent amount of exp you'd get spending 80 resin in an artifact domain when just looking at exp alone

idk

[lyric cargo]

ah

thanks

[jolly junco]

(im guessing)

[lyric cargo]

just, thanks for explaining your guess ^^

[lyric cargo]

did they just remove the ability to choose 8 chars to appear first?

the button to choose them appears to be gone, and the ones I'd chosen to display first aren't first anymore
instead I see an option to sort by "quality" or level, and to filter by element and / or weapon

[rigid bobcat]

whats that?

[lyric cargo]

it's the "all characters" view on hoyolab

I always planned out my abyss teams using the first 8 slots, his I need to use a teambuilder app for that now

[tardy trout]

what do u guys think is premium team for ningguang?

[opal surge]

I could imagine that her highest DPS team is navia Bennett furina

[flat forge]

kirara vs thoma vs layla who is best in terms of pure shielding capabilities

[tardy trout]

hmmm

[opal surge]

Kirara iirc?

[tardy trout]

really close

[opal surge]

It's definitely not thoma, but you can literally just look at their multipliers

[tardy trout]

ig i put Ning,Furina,Ben and Yunjin will work

[opal surge]

Should be really easy to see

[flat forge]

im just thinking of who to raise to shield my neuvi if zhongli has to go other team

[elder bluff]

The config is here

[vale wind]

if i click on the gear icon it does let me pick 8 characters

[lyric cargo]

I don't know if Natlan will give us a shielder
but the new artifact set seems to do more than anything else you could put

so if there's a shielder from Natlan, that'd be your best choice for sure

[flat forge]

there is a new shielder set?

[lyric cargo]

me support set, a 40 dmg% buff that works from off-field

[opal surge]

It's not a shielder set, but TBF zhongli won't be beaten in neuvilette of the set alone

Petra is 35% after all

[lyric cargo]

you think the res shred is more valuable than 40 dmg%?

[opal surge]

Petra is 35

[lyric cargo]

petra has very limited uptime, I thought

[elder bluff]

but if you can constantly create and absorb the shard...

idk chiori + kachina seems pretty great

[opal surge]

It doesn't have full uptime but it has 10s after picking up a shard

[elder bluff]

navia + kachina also looks nice

[opal surge]

After zhongli picks up a shard specifically

[lyric cargo]

oh, I have to go outside "all characters" to change it? welp, better than not having it at all. thanks.

..oh, it doesn't apply to the "all characters" view anymore 😬

[opal surge]

He also has Res shred and an absurdly large shield, I don't think just being a natlan shielder will cut it for the new set

[lyric cargo]

yeah.. don't you have to go through Furina and Kazuha, leaving maybe 4s?

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I see

[opal surge]

Furina goes first (applies hydro for Petra to begin with)

[lyric cargo]

since I don't have Zl yet, I'll probably try kachina

[opal surge]

Zhongli hE pickup kazuha tap e (doesn't have to burst in neuvilette teams)

~8s uptime

[lyric cargo]

I thought you go back to her and burst right before Neuv takes the field

I guess this is an older video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8EuiZ9Uqps

[opal surge]

This is also not Petra zl tbf

I think lemon is going back to furina after zl to catch favge particles? but im not sure @jolly junco could maybe give some insight on this

[jolly junco]

it's generally best to start with neuv E into furina E, I wasn't doing a petra rotation though I can check

yeah it's usually best to start the same even in petra teams, then zhongli hE and pick up the shard after kazuha's burst

you don't refresh petra though

[opal surge]

thanks for checking

[opal surge]

just double checking, like this then?

[jolly junco]

No hold on

neuv e>furina ed>kazuha tep q>zhongli hE (dash into shard)>furina q>neuv ca e ca q>kazuha tep>neuv ca ca

[opal surge]

okay got it

[jolly junco]

gotta juggle a bunch of different buffs so the uptimes are not perfect but it is what it is

[rigid bobcat]

lumidouce elegy or dragons bane r3 on xiangling?

[lyric cargo]

is the second bit "tep q", or "tep e"?

I thought tep as in tap, the opposite of hold. but for the burst that doesn't make sense 😅

[opal surge]

tap e plunge

[jolly junco]

tep = tap skill plunge, tep q = tap skill plunge then burst

[lyric cargo]

oh, makes sense 👍

[lyric cargo]

I'm just going to keep it in the edit view, now

that shows the 8 chosen ones at the top like I'm used to

(Gorou = Kachina for the moment)

[narrow folio]

No Chiori or Zhongli?

[wind bolt]

Can someone help me figure out what set everyone needs so i can look at what to strongbox first for imaginarium theater?

Sucrose jean sayu vv
Mika chev nobless

[lyric cargo]

no, geo has only recently become an element for me

I think Chiori still feels a bit limited (I like to have chars that can be combined in many ways, she mostly seems to have synergy with monogeo)

[lyric cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874914804349939766/1273880100059873360/image.png?ex=66cac4cb&is=66c9734b&hm=d4c1eb560cd843735ed83d297285c288252e0a667e0aa247345b5ac8d3ac7c89&

left side = built
middle = building
right side = not building

[lyric cargo]

those chars are all to be built?

[opal surge]

build guide in pins

[narrow folio]

Just get C1

[wind bolt]

Yes they are currently artifactless

[lyric cargo]

I'm aiming to have ~7 chars for each element now, since 3 * 7 + traveler = 22

if 5 of each are actually built, that would be 15 usable chars for theater

so I figure I can get away with dragging along two that I don't build for each element

4th party members that are only there to fill out the numbers

[narrow folio]

Build Lynette as a budget Xiao if she's C6

[lyric cargo]

(constellations are on the screenshot btw, she's c1)

had to zoom in quite a bit to see it

[wind bolt]

Me wanting to do the even harder imaginarium thats gonna release 5.0 (ill fail)

[narrow folio]

Just get 5 copies, easy

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it'll require 22 chars

that's what I meant by 7 of each element and bring traveler as a 22nd char

[wind bolt]

Oh thought the hardest in 5.0 was like 26

[wind bolt]

Will look at it when im off work ig

[lyric cargo]

quite a lot to write if you're really asking for everyone

maybe check the GenshinBuilds link and then ask about any it doesn't cover enough

[sour birch]

sorry i went to sleep, right better

[keen crater]

Haven't played in 2years, anything I need to know?

[strange scarab]

they added a lot new contents lately

[keen crater]

I heard, and it should be enough to keep me occupied for a weeks to catch up. Currently in chapter 3

[unkempt river]

Which two teams for F12-2 and 12-3?

[onyx yew]

this is under crit isnt it

[jolly junco]

tis low crit rate yes

swap to a crit rate circlet if you can

[onyx yew]

this what with crit circlet look like

[jolly junco]

yes that is better

though what weapon is it

[onyx yew]

fleuv

[jolly junco]

Ok that actually makes the one with over 200 cdmg better

but you should try to build a bit more crit rate

[jolly junco]

hmm. neuv, furina, layla, sayu first half
second half either raiden, bennett, xiangling, xingqiu/yelan or alhaitham, nahida, kuki, xingqiu/yelan depending on what you think is more invested

the raiden team can deal with the 12:3 shield through overload (not the fastest) but the alhaitham team will be relying on brute force more

[unkempt river]

Do you think brute force will do it?

[unkempt river]

What would the rot for Neuv team be?

[jolly junco]

it's possible with enough investment anyway, not sure how easy it will be though

[unkempt river]

hmm aight

[jolly junco]

neuv e>furina e>sayu eq>layla (q)e>furina q>neuv ca e ca q>sayu e>layla (q)e>neuv ca ca

kinda feelscrafting here but should work

[unkempt river]

Gotcha, ty!

Why wait so long for Furina burst though? To stack it up asap?

[jolly junco]

to try and maximise uptime for neuvillette

[unkempt river]

yea

[ripe parrot]

is this ok to begun with on Yanfei? I will build her for Mualani

and will use Yanfei and Xianling wiht Mualani
and maybe ZL
for she needs a healer or shielder
and I miss Furina

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1276969432786141245/image.png?ex=66cb75f5&is=66ca2475&hm=1de5db57cdb14cf1e92fbc75b4cbe20d9e5da962f6ea49743a4929d94a5ae66f&

[neon harness]

Mualani is an on field dps, yanfei is also an on field dps, unless you plan on using yanfei c4 shield bot (which i dont recommend ) yanfei doesn’t work

@ripe parrot

[jade tendon]

I'm having a little troubel with the optimizer and the main server for it is super dead, anybody know anything about it?

[opal surge]

whats your trouble

[neon harness]

Ive used optimizer, so sure ig, what happened

[jade tendon]

It only scans one charcter and then stops, I have no clue why

[old tulip]

Trying to download Genshin on a friends PC. He has plenty of storage, but he keeps getting an error “Note: Failed to unzip file. It is recommended that you change the installation path or go to the official game website to try downloading and”

Has anyone seen this?

[jade tendon]

No, but have you tried the website download?

[old tulip]

Yes he has

[jade tendon]

Try changing the download path to just C:/

[old tulip]

He did that too 😭

[jade tendon]

Try ProgramFiles then

[neon harness]

😔 sorry I can’t help with this, i manually input everything

[rigid bobcat]

right is 2 ER less than the ERC says and left is 10 more

[jade tendon]

I guess characters would be easy, so I'll do that too. Thank god it got my artifacts 😭

[opal surge]

not like you have to input all your characters too

just input the ones you need at a given time

[rigid bobcat]

can u get banned from genshin for using the app that scans ur artifacts for genshin optimizer?

[unkempt river]

No? It just scans a video of them anyways haha

[jolly junco]

Artiscan doesn't breach hoyo ToS at all

but some of the other scanners on the optimizer site are a gray area

[unkempt river]

such as?

[jolly junco]

although I don't know of any cases of anyone actually getting banned for using them

[jolly junco]

I think Artiscan is/was the only one listed which is completely out of gray area

[unkempt river]

But which ones are inside the area?

[jolly junco]

they're listed on the site

anything which controls your mouse etc ingame

[jolly junco]

this is artiscan

[unkempt river]

yuh

[unkempt river]

oh huh. which site are they listed at? I'd like to know so I don't use them just in case

[jolly junco]

genshin optimizer site -> click on scanners at the top

there is a warning on the ones which are not Artiscan

[zenith thicket]

whats the difference between vape, reverse vape and forward vape teams? what does it mean

[neon harness]

Vape is just the reaction of pyro and hydro
Reverse vape is when you apply hydro and then add pyro, it’s a 1.5 multiplier
Forward vape is pyro first then hydro, 2x dmg multiplier

[lyric cargo]

usually, most vape will be reverse since it consumes less of the hydro aura on the enemy

reverse vape consumes 0.5 units of hydro
forward vaoe consumes 2 units of pyro

since pyro aura is cleared away much faster, hydro will end up being the aura

unless the hydro application is slow, like Mualani's

[fast glade]

How do i get my rank up i didnt think it was this bad😭

[opal surge]

by getting better artifacts

[zenith thicket]

no r5?

[lament pine]

Festering Desire or Favonius on Furina, what do you all use

[desert lake]

How to level up AR from 27 to 30

[zenith thicket]

do your world quests and commissions

[desert lake]

Ty

[zenith thicket]

also the map is huge now just explore and unlock chests and statues

[desert lake]

When can I unlock the Serinitea Pot I’ve seen it before.

[zenith thicket]

after liyue i think? you also need to unlock fishing

so its ar 28 and u need to complete liyue act 3

[minor gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031234447187656924/1276989279372972116/image.png?ex=66cb8871&is=66ca36f1&hm=c124668998f93b72141a13f5c8c2c8f5e3abb860857c0adead33a006b2046468& i think i cooked with this piece

Or is there too little cr?

[neon harness]

Use festering

Omg it didn’t reply

[neon harness]

Festering

[neon harness]

Mh set bonus

[minor gale]

Alright dope

[fast glade]

I would use 4 blizzard but i have like no hydro characters

Her damage isnt that bad either rn

[lunar swift]

are there any genshin events out now=?

[neon harness]

Web events

?

[lunar swift]

no like in tgame

im worndering if its worht to wait another 2 days for stellar rewruonion

or play now for sum primo

[neon harness]

You got time to grind an event?

[opal surge]

If you can finish the events in time doing them is more than the 10 pull

But itll take some time

[lunar swift]

how do i unlock this island?? plss help

[fast glade]

Solid 1640 resin😭

[lunar swift]

what is it?

the moon? is because is full moon soon so i save up

[dusty cape]

[neon harness]

you are wasting resin, stop using fragile resin, just keep in inventory

[lunar swift]

cam i use them for something??? im confused

[neon harness]

yes, to level up characters and farm artifacts

[lunar swift]

ooooh coool

but i wantr a lot of resin so i can level up alot!

[dusty cape]

https://game8.co/games/Genshin-Impact/archives/337962

[lunar swift]

thankkk uuuuu :3

[neon harness]

but you arent using resin at all
if you let it sit full, see how ur resin is at 1640/200, you are wasting potential regenration of that resin

[lunar swift]

i want more to level more

[neon harness]

ur resin is ideally always below 200 since it regenerates slowly

[fast glade]

You can use resin for artifacts and ascension materials and you always regenerate more when it isnt full

You get 1 resin for every 8 minutes

[lunar swift]

but so much i cant spend it all its gonna take hours

[neon harness]

use the resin before regerating it

[fast glade]

Yeah well now dont really worry that much about it

[neon harness]

pls dont tell me u have been using primos on it lmao

[lunar swift]

okiiii

[fast glade]

Just use it for who you want to level up

[lunar swift]

i use primos when i can i dont need more characters i have a lot at lvl 1 already

[opal surge]

this is

[lunar swift]

the resin makes m,e stronger with the chars i have so its better

[neon harness]

this feels like rage bait, whatever, have fun slowing ur progression

[fast glade]

You need to use resin so you can ascend characters

[neon harness]

send roster

[fast glade]

My sister did the same she had 2k resin😭

[neon harness]

thats not a good thing

[fast glade]

I know

We drained it at some domains

[neon harness]

this feels like somthing you would do on an alt acc for shits and giggles lmfao

[nova swift]

Not as dope as you

[fast glade]

For sure but could just be someone thats lost ig

[neon harness]

honestly so far, it feels like talking to a wall, just direct them to the pre-45 guide in the pins and let them do their thing

[fast glade]

They have over 90% progress in inazuma no way they did that without any resin

[neon harness]

i hope

[fast glade]

Praying for jade spear need more attack😔

His damage is pretty shit got no clue why

[neon harness]

what team?

[fast glade]

Bennett zhongli and fodder

Idk who else to use with him

[neon harness]

do not use 4p shime, use 2p atk 2p anemo/atk
or 4p verm/mh

[fast glade]

Wait is shime not his best anymore😭

[neon harness]

send roster, last one should be a battery, c6 faruzan>sucrose>jean

[neon harness]

it never was

[narrow folio]

It was never his best...

[fast glade]

Uh oh

[narrow folio]

A character reliant on their burst isn't using 4pc shime

2pc is fine but not 4

[fast glade]

Yeah i usually just put another anemo

[neon harness]

it went from 2p atk 2p anemo to 4p verm, now another option is mh

[neon harness]

^ kinda fucking urself up there, xiao is already a pretty energy hungry unit

[fast glade]

What is verm⁉️⁉️

[narrow folio]

Vermillion

[neon harness]

vermillion, artifact set in chasm

[fast glade]

Oh

[neon harness]

use mh tho

[fast glade]

I got about nothing unlocked on chasm

[neon harness]

hunter set if starting from nothing>>

i lost xiao enka card wth

[fast glade]

So i should just be using 2 pc anemo 2 pc attack

[neon harness]

😼

[fast glade]

Staff of homa

[neon harness]

sure, its better than 4p shime

[fast glade]

I dream of staff of homa

[narrow folio]

Not 100/300

[neon harness]

😼 yes, also got pjws but my crit ratio is better with homa

[fast glade]

My hu tao zhongli and xiao yearn for homa

[neon harness]

😔

[narrow folio]

Pull for it then

[narrow folio]

[fast glade]

When yo

[narrow folio]

Whenever it rolls around again, I dunno

[fast glade]

Figured that much😭

[neon harness]

😼 i still hope for another banner as good as aqua homa (i cope)

[fast glade]

I have zhongli on black tassel bc of ts

[neon harness]

support zhongli uses fav/blacktassle

[fast glade]

55k hp on him😼

[neon harness]

qaaaaà

[fast glade]

Is the only way to get better to go 4 blizzard

[neon harness]

Yes, should be going for 4 blitz anyways

[fast glade]

Maybe when i get mona

[neon harness]

5 star selector

[fast glade]

Yessir

Ayaka mona kazuha and idk

Zhongli or shenhe

[neon harness]

Shenhe

Freeze doesn’t need shielder, enemies are frozen

[worthy siren]

Is rosaria's skill worth upgrading for damage?

[stable vale]

Is there no channel to trade figurines?

Ahh I messed up, I don't think I can roll 30 for the last figurine thing to get the 3rd good shelf, there's no way to get more coins right?

[neon harness]

did you finish the other parts of the event?

you should have enough coins

[stable vale]

But I accidentally over spent on the 1st one

I didn't realize there was a quest for pulling 30 qwq

[opal surge]

You should be able to roll out on every spot

If you've done every minigame

[neon harness]

i though the event stopped you from overpulling? cus when i tried it wouldnt let me

[neon harness]

Does ur event page have the checks on them at the top

[stable vale]

I haven't been able to get the last bit but it would only give me 30 pulls

But it's weird cause I pulled a lot of figurines

[neon harness]

if you dont have all 3 of checks on this page of the event, you wont have enough pulls for the figurines

[stable vale]

Does this mean I have to pull 1 more?

Ahhhh I guess I need to do all

[neon harness]

you are allowed to do one more pull, check the event page, does it say 29/30

[stable vale]

I am hella struggling tho gettting 5k points T-T

[neon harness]

yes

[stable vale]

Ty! I hope I manage to get the 5k points, any tips?

[neon harness]

not rly, the event was pretty easy for me
if you want to clear the map, since it goes away soon, use optimizer to clear the chests, or collect the paper airplanes whenever u see it

once you reach, i think 75, it will give you a device that shows chest locations

[stable vale]

Sheeeesh thanks

[stable vale]

Did you do it with the 10x mutiplier?

[quaint fern]

Oh btw you need way more ER. Aim for 140

[fallow yoke]

heyo

is Kachina a dps?

im pretty sure she is dps right? fits well with mono geo chiori

[quaint fern]

Only Da Wei would know

[fallow yoke]

Kachina Chiori Zhongli Gorou

her skill can do jumpy dumpty as well as being sub dps too

so she is kinda a dps

i think

[narrow folio]

That depends on how good her damage would be

[still lynx]

how do I get this

I tried searching it up and it seems there a sort of challenge im meant to do but I do not see the option to do that

like what test

[zenith thicket]

does kazuha sig increase his buffing or give him em/er?

[wind bolt]

The chests near that one with the squirels do yhose challanges

[zenith thicket]

also which team would be better?
furina can buff rlly well but like cryo res and also mona can increase damage with her omen buff thing i'm not super sure how it works

[still lynx]

im confused what you mean I have these done but idk

[wind bolt]

Should be those that the post was referring to

What about the unmarked squirel

[still lynx]

oh wait that one works now

[still lynx]

that worked thx 🙏

luxiorous but only 10 primos...

[wind bolt]

Sadge

[wanton pawn]

should i leave this on emilie or keep it for later and reroll a new one

[jolly junco]

try to get a better one

[wanton pawn]

i REALLY hate artifact farming 😭

[fallow yoke]

but if she didnt do good dmg she wont be good

like she is definetely not a support

sub dps it is

[wanton pawn]

ok enka updated. . . . how do the artifacts look

i will have to wait till my resin replenishes first to get more sadly

[silk mango]

Did they reveal the 5.0 banner 4 stars yet?

[wanton pawn]

Spoiler, Kachina is on the banner

[minor gale]

is this a good starting point for a build? idk why its showing a potential team comp when i dont have any of the other characters

[fallow yoke]

too much CR

[wanton pawn]

tbh this was my best attempt at a 1-2 ratio lol

CR kept getting picked over CD when lving

[granite gate]

wait guys im confused, I haven't played in months, but if I log in to genshin now will I lose the returnee 10 wishes u get in patch 5.0?

[wanton pawn]

should i go for c4 Dehya?

[narrow folio]

It's not 5.0 yet so no

[cedar flint]

yes

[neon harness]

level him and his talents first

[neon harness]

only the first banner

the stream had a pic of the banner with the 4 stars

idk if its acutally gonna be those 4 stars but it was xinyan kachina benny

[atomic abyss]

When is 5.0 again?

[zenith thicket]

in 2 days

[atomic abyss]

Damn it's on Tuesday

Should finish last act on Fontaine then

[zenith thicket]

🤨

there's more after that AQ yk the new sibling one

[atomic abyss]

Fuck I forgot

The recent interlude?

[zenith thicket]

the last act is long as hell too man u gotta grind if u wanna catch up

[atomic abyss]

Okay thanks, how long is it in your opinion?

[zenith thicket]

its short overall but there's a long part that goes on forever. whole thing around 3 hours at most? i don't remember

[atomic abyss]

I think I can sit through all that with YouTube on split screen

Thanks 👍

[tall python]

There a way to see quest you havnt done yet? Like world quests and more?

[neon harness]

reputation board, interactive map, but unless you have been using the interactive map, it will show quests you finished too

[tall python]

Does the repu board include all the world quests?

[neon harness]

not sure, never checked if it has 100% of them

[tall python]

Alright then thanks

But does the interactive include the point where the quest is after a certain progress?

Cuz i might have done some and forgot abt it and just left it at someplace where idk

[neon harness]

no, it only has the starting point of the quest
you should see all quests you have progress in in ur quests tab

[tall python]

Oh ic

Thanks again

[neon harness]

yuh

[neon wave]

Not all but most

Non-reputation World Quests here's the rest

[quaint fern]

@silk mango

(this was shown on stream)

[silk mango]

Ok
Thank you

[ripe parrot]

Ok thanks is Thoma good than?

Mualani, XL wich 2 should the others be?

[hallow dawn]

Help with my team, I mean the Emily team...

[opal surge]

Theres no help I can offer you other than play a different team

[neon harness]

they gave some example teams in the video, i dont rly know about her, she isnt even released

[neon harness]

send roster

yanfei keqing no bueno

[ripe parrot]

I Will not use Yelan. Emily is for a Buregon

XL, and Bennet

Many uses them with Emily @hallow dawn

[wanton pawn]

If you got dehya she can also help as the off field pyro

[opal surge]

fwiw quickburn (burnload? overburn? idk) kind of works with clorinde emilie, so I guess it probably is okay with keqing is as well?

[rigid bobcat]

is there a possibility for them to add higher level weekly bosses/domains because of the world level increase?

[opal surge]

no

its pretty unlikely at least

[jolly junco]

golden dawn

nice team name

[jolly junco]

tis pretty much just a downgrade from aggravate

its ok with raiden, bennett, xiangling though

i still need to try that myself

[jolly junco]

emilie, bennett, xiangling, +1

you could use like rosaria

[hallow dawn]

That will mess up navia's team

[jolly junco]

true but if you take away bennett I don't think you have a decent emilie team

[hallow dawn]

I wanna keep benny, xiangling, chiori and navia's team constant

[hallow dawn]

Hmm, but benny helps navia a lot

[jolly junco]

I'm aware

it's a case of they would both like bennett

i think if you want to run them in independent teams

run a bennettless navia one

navia, chiori, yelan/fischl, jean/dori for example

[tepid finch]

soooo. whats a good team for nilou? i have nahida, kokomi, baizhu, barbara c6 or is something else better?

[neon harness]

nilou nahida baizhu kokomi is good

[tepid finch]

is there a better team for her

[jolly junco]

there's a lot of good nilou teams and different ones will perform better/worse depending on the situation

as long as you have nahida the other two are really up to you as long as you have a way of applying hydro and dendro consistently with enough healing

[granite yacht]

Guys i have a theory question.
There are characters whose damage scale on hp,atk or def.

Let's just take atk for example.

1. When we get atk% it means the base atk is increasing by that %. Which means your damage is also increasing by that % with respect to your base atk

And then there is crit damage%.
2) when you get crit damage %, obviously your damage is also incraesing by that %. But the overall damage is increasing by that %.

So my question is which is better?

1. atk or 2) crit damage
   Because atk increases the base atk for crit damage and crit damage just increases the damage

[neon harness]

both is good, balance it

[opal surge]

If you want the mathematical answer you can revisit the damage formula, its available on the wiki or in the KQM TC stuff

Generally speaking all offensive stats are important as they interact with each other, but some stats have higher weight than others for the final damage (up to a certain point)

[wary vessel]

am i gonna get banned if i play genshin on steam deck?

[lyric cargo]

there is already hoyo-sanctioned content creator footage
unfortunately, abyss is off-limits
but she doesn't seem like someone you use for their damage

she can hold the new +40 dmg% artifact set, though

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt0FROEAZCA

[lyric cargo]

I recommend googling for "genshin impact interactive map"

that'll give you the unofficial version, it's better in that there are many comments - not just one
with a better chance that one of them will be helpful

[lyric cargo]

I'd try to get a better plume, goblet, and circlet

keep in mind you get 36% crit rate from 4-piece Marechaussee
you can use an off-piece, no need to have all 5 pieces be the same set

same for the Xq, you don't need to use emblem for all 5 pieces, using an off-piece means you only need 4 good emblem pieces

[granite yacht]

I don't know which formula to trust

[opal surge]

https://library.keqingmains.com/combat-mechanics/damage/damage-formula

[lyric cargo]

talent damage usually scales with:
attribute * (1 + dmg%) * (1 + cr * cd)

so if your talent scales with hp and you have 40000 hp, attribute would be 40000
if a hydro dmg% goblet is your only dmg% buff, then 1 + dmg% is 1.466
if your crit rate is 80% and your crit dmg is 160%, then 1 + cr * cd is 1 + 0.8 * 1.6 = 1.28

[granite yacht]

By this formula your atk% would give you higher damage then crit damage %

[lyric cargo]

when multiplying variables,
the way to get the highest result is a balanced increase in all of them

[granite yacht]

Now i am calculating I don't understand why we do crit damage at all

[small blade]

[lyric cargo]

when your crit rate is just the base 5%, building crit dmg does very little since it's multiplied with a small number

[opal surge]

You are probably not calculating correctly, or you are calcing with assumption of 5% crit rate

[lyric cargo]

but imagine you split your crit rolls into both crit stats (crit rate and crit dmg)
now you have something like 1 + crit/2 * crit/2

so your damage scales with crit², quadratic scaling gets better and better the more you have of it

[granite yacht]

Lets say your crit hits 100% of the time.

Let's say your damage is 100. And base crit damage is 200% means 2 times the damage.

Now let's consider 2 cases with different %.

Case 1:- 20% atk = 120 atk
2x crit damage.
Total damage = 120×2= 240
OR
Base atk= 100
20% crit damage= 2.2x
Total damage= 100×2.2= 220

The atk% gives better damage

[opal surge]

[granite yacht]

I am just doing it for the sake of understanding is 100% better or crit damage%. Obviously you need crit rate

[rugged sparrow]

200 crit dmg means ure doing 3x the dmg

[granite yacht]

Oh yea. I mentioned that wrong

[lyric cargo]

if your crit rate is 100%

then one max-roll of crit dmg is +7.77%
while one max-roll of atk% is +5.83%

[opal surge]

Just go to an actual character, and calc the full thing, and attribute 20 substats for your artifacts across the character

[granite yacht]

Byt the result still gives atk% is better

[opal surge]

its easier to understand then

[rugged sparrow]

but that's assuming same amount of % which isn't the case for genshin

[granite yacht]

Can you please forget the rolls and stuff. All i want to understand is if we have same atk and crit dmg % which is better

[opal surge]

thats not how it works, rolls are important

the thing is if you assume 100/200, how many crit substats are you assuming

[rugged sparrow]

[granite yacht]

Well its matters. What if you have artifact of 20% crit dmg and 20% atk and you have to decide between one

[opal surge]

you are skewing base attack and crit to an absurd amount

and then calcing that attack is more important

no shit that attack is more important if you have 100 attack and 400 cv

[rugged sparrow]

also you're comparing things in a vacuum

[opal surge]

[granite yacht]

I know rolls are improtant!! All i want to know is atk% better or crit dmg % better

[rugged sparrow]

and completely ignoring buffs / plethora of other stats (dmg% etc)

[granite yacht]

That is just an example

[rugged sparrow]

a bad one yes

solution: plug your stat into optimizer

[opal surge]

generally speaking, practically crit damage% is better than attack ingame assuming that you have the crit rate matching it

[granite yacht]

Oh yea. Y don't u take a better example with same % and give me an answer

[opal surge]

if thats the answer you are looking for

[granite yacht]

It's just ratio guys. Doesnt matter about 100 dmg

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

how delusional do you have to be when 3+ people are telling you your calc is bad and u still can't see it

[granite yacht]

Yea. That's what i think too but when i started calculating i thought otherwise

[rugged sparrow]

I'm bad at math and I can teach you
and that's bad

[granite yacht]

I am just a ' i need proof' kinda person

[opal surge]

so calc it out

not using this example but an ingame practical example

you can pull all the data you need, get your proof

[rugged sparrow]

.

are you trying to do a solo run or something

[granite yacht]

I will do a practical one. And share the test results

Caz i have a feeling i will go wrong somewhere and need someone experienced to correct me

[rugged sparrow]

...

[lyric cargo]

I didn't mean rolls as in randomness of how much you get.
I meant the amount of crit you get from an artifact level-up is higher than the amount of atk.

But let's ignore that for now, let's say rolls are the same size.
Atk and crit are multiplied.
So just like crit rate vs crit dmg, once one of them gets high enough it becomes more and more worth it to invest in the other.

100 baseAtk
0 atk%
100 crit rate
200 crit dmg

100 * (1 + 0) * (1 + 1 * 2)
= 100 * 1 * 3
= 300
```Your atk% is severely underinvested here, so it's better to increase that than crit.

Simplifying a lot here, your ``1 + atk%`` is ``1`` and your ``1 + cr * cd`` is ``3``.
You maximize a product my increasing the smallest factor.

100 baseAtk
300 atk%
100 crit rate
200 crit dmg

100 * (1 + 3) * (1 + 1 * 2)
= 100 * 4 * 3
= 1200

(I'm pretending flatAtk doesn't exist to simplify the calculation. You can convert flatAtk to atk% by dividing it by your baseAtk.)

[lyric cargo]

maybe this video can help, though it takes some patience to get through:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jX1sb4K6xo

starting from 4m 22s, they talk about how the percentage increase to your overall damage goes down as you get more of a stat
(atk + one more roll) / atk

[opal surge]

judging by the fact that they havent shared their result yet despite saying they would I would assume they probably found out themselves ingame

[tall python]

Oh eyy thanks

[sick quarry]

I have 493 em on Nahida, is it enough?

[neon harness]

depends on team

[sick quarry]

With 2 electro and 1 hydro

[neon harness]

that does not help, but if nahida is offield, more em, aim for 900-1000

[sick quarry]

Dang thats a lot

[lyric cargo]

For her personal damage, you'd want to balance EM with crit.

But for team damage, you might want the full 250 EM buff to the active character.
That buff scales with the highest EM on the team, up to 1000.

So the question is if someone else is already building ~1000 EM

if you want to give her one build and never worry about it, you'd give her ~1000 EM

[lyric cargo]

her KQM article has a good explanation.
See Off-Field vs. On-Field vs Bloom
https://keqingmains.com/q/nahida-quickguide/#Artifact_Stats

[granite yacht]

na i didnt start the test yet

[opal surge]

i sheeted it if you want actual calcs, example here is c0r1 navia with bennet +geo+pyro, average E damage for 6 shards

[granite yacht]

I really don't understand why you people are not getting my point

I don't have pc till morning so I can't test it yet

I don't need a team. I don't need anything. All i need to know is atk% better then crit dmg% for the same %number.

That's it

[rugged sparrow]

and why would it matter in a vacuum, like what are you trying to proof

your earlier example is flawed because you fail to account main stats from feather and sands (assuming atk%)
and you somehow have 200 cdmg with 0 atk subs like

and then thing gets even more complicated if you include atk buffs from teammates/other artifacts
you comparing atk% and cdmg in a vacuum gets weirder cuz that assumes you run solo

[opal surge]

no its not, you can see it in the sheet

[gray oxide]

dang yall cooking

thats a weird question

[opal surge]

I'm trying to learn to sheet stuff properly so it was some funny practice

[gray oxide]

couldnt you just say that crit dmg is better

coz a very peculiar bad lucked specimen called Bennett exists

that oversaturate your attack to hell

[opal surge]

this is another example with only one substat changed this time, but without bennet

on clorinde

cdmg is just better I think

[gray oxide]

btw

crit dmg vs atk as in circlet right? @opal surge

[shell shell]

Guys is this good or I need more crit dmg?

[opal surge]

no theyre just asking in general I think

[gray oxide]

so its just context dependent

[opal surge]

obviously crit damage is a worthless stat without crit rate but thats another rabbit hole

[rugged sparrow]

very much so

[gray oxide]

if you ignore Bennett and pretty much any form of noticeable atk% buff

[gray oxide]

should just calc it as general CV

get a formula that uses CV instead of both crit rate and crit dmg

[opal surge]

its what i did here right, sorry meant in the navia example actually

crit multiplier is just CV more or less

~kinda

[gray oxide]

also for this maybe less ER and more atk/crit?

[rugged sparrow]

I'd get a better circlet and run an atk sands, no reason to shoot for 300 ER without Engulfing Lightning

[gray oxide]

maybe its not as big an issue as i thought since ur team have 2 atk buffers, but i dont think >300% er is generally necessary on Raiden

[rugged sparrow]

only situation where you'd run "300%" ER is just from EL passive

[tame cedar]

How much hp should Yelan have?

[rugged sparrow]

as much as you can get

[shell shell]

So I have too much ER 😭, cause I followed some guide and it said to build as much ER as possible

[tame cedar]

Right now 26k

[rugged sparrow]

27k sounds awfully low, is she 90/90

or runs an ER sands + no HP weap

[tame cedar]

70/80

[rugged sparrow]

well level her up more

[tame cedar]

ER weapon and 4 star hp sands (it's the only good hp one I have)

[rugged sparrow]

[tame cedar]

I have no resin

[rugged sparrow]

good thing resin refreshes daily, then

[gray oxide]

just take yer time

[shell shell]

Is fading twilight gonna be better on yelan than favonius?

[gray oxide]

noppers

[rugged sparrow]

on very specific line up sure

[shell shell]

I also got her today

[rugged sparrow]

aka teams where you run low-med ER requirement

[tame cedar]

Is this ratio good?

[rugged sparrow]

and your team somehow doesn't benefit from the Fav particles

better send enka card but I'd get more cdmg if possible considering your Yelan is 70/80

she's gonna get few more cr from ascension

[shell shell]

?

[rugged sparrow]

you were answered by 2 ppl...

[shell shell]

Oh I'm dumb

[tame cedar]

If I use a crit dmg circlet it lowers to like 48 cr

[lyric cargo]

it's okay, the ideal ratio is any multiple of 1:2
but 74.6 : 132.8 is close enough to 70 : 140

[tame cedar]

Should I go for it?

[rugged sparrow]

well farm more artis you'll eventually get better ratio

[tame cedar]

The Crit dmg circlet

[lyric cargo]

but yeah, an enka card will get you better feedback

[shell shell]

Thanks guys

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1272283682974990461/Untitled_Artwork.webp?ex=66cc3643&is=66cae4c3&hm=62c045a936248f3bc346888c16591cf462047c7484c14be91d22b63fdfb5a470&

[fringe scroll]

what team can I use to improve this ar47 account

[jolly junco]

nilou, dendro traveler, barbara, collei

you kinda want xingqiu to play kaveh in nilou bloom. xingqiu is in the shop next month if you have the starglitter

though a bennett, xiangling, xingqiu, flex team looks like the best other team for abyss until you pull more units

assuming you had xingqiu of course

[fringe scroll]

thank you very much

[lunar swift]

how many primos can i get from exploring the event map in 4.8? im trying to figure out if its worth to 100%

[neon wave]

~700
Around 1k if you're counting quests too

[wet plank]

Wasn't it 1.6-1.7

[lunar swift]

okiii thank uu , think i can do it in 2-3 hours and do u think its worth it forr the primoos

[neon wave]

With minigames ye

[wet plank]

Ah excluding event

[neon wave]

Yea probably, you get a gadget that tracks chests at 75 excerpts and the upgraded version (at 200) marks them all on the map
"Worth" is up to you

[lunar swift]

at 75% u mean? il try doing it in time thanks alooot <3

[neon wave]

No at 75 excerpts
You redeem it as a reward
"Excerpts of Bliss" are just something you collect as you're opening chests/doing puzzles (or finding them on the map)

[glad slate]

is emilie better with reverie set or deepwood set?

[jolly junco]

reverie

though in teams without dendro res shred, deepwood is almost as good

[glad slate]

so lets say i want to make a burning team with the upcoming natlan character, that means emilie gotta use deepwood right?

[jolly junco]

not necessarily

i assume you mean kinich, but there was nothing in the livestream which said he's intended to work with burning as well

you dont actually need a dendro character to be the user of deepwood set

[storm urchin]

is this scuffed or nah

[jolly junco]

you can put deepwood on a support like dehya for example

they just need to have skill or burst damage that hits and can be off-field as well as on-field

[glad slate]

ohhhh

i see, so deepwood can be used by any off filed dps?

[jolly junco]

can be yeah

whether or not it's worth it will depend.tm

[glad slate]

ight ight noted

[jolly junco]

a bit yeah

yelan's hydro app from her burst is purely single target and you have no grouping

(jean's e doesn't count)

[storm urchin]

ye this acc is fked time to collect dust

[jolly junco]

[opal surge]

[glad slate]

would blackcliff suits emilie? (idk if its bad or not)

[jolly junco]

what polearms do you have

cuz blackcliff isnt great but tbf she doesnt have great accessible options so its usable

[glad slate]

not alot, there favonius lance, skyward spine, kitain cross spear, dragons bane

[jolly junco]

skyward spine time

[glad slate]

ight then

[stark sandal]

what was the leaked name of the unknown god?

[glad slate]

in the natlan?

[lyric cargo]

if it was leaked, it'd probably just be a ban on this server

[dusty cape]

[near prism]

kiana kaslana trust

[fallen topaz]

For the upcoming free 5*, should I get Mona since I have no copies of her?

[rugged sparrow]

do you plan on using her anywhere

or more of a collection purpose

[fallen topaz]

Not sure, but she’s the only 5* standard I don’t have

[rugged sparrow]

do you have a good amount of hydro units for IT

it's a good factor to consider ig

[fallen topaz]

I have a few. Does the acc need mona?

[rugged sparrow]

not really

[fallen topaz]

So, who should I get?

[rugged sparrow]

but for IT she's worth considering, especially if you're aiming for higher difficulty

I'd personally recommend more Tigh constellations since he's arguably the best standard to invest on

but again, Mona is fine, she can help your freeze team seeing you dont have Kokomi

your next best thing is Furina + healer but I doubt it's gonna be better compared to just Mona + Shenhe

[rigid bobcat]

Which one's better?

@Y'all

i should probably get crit dmg circlet if i use lumidouce

[opal surge]

whats the team

[remote pumice]

rate the build

[ripe parrot]

I have nver touched Hu Taos Homa but nowI may change Homa to XL for a Mualani team will Homa be good on XL?

[jolly junco]

there will be two weapons for xiangling in a mualani team

favonius lance or engulfing lightning

and as much ER as you can get

[ripe parrot]

I have one R5 fav Lance

and one as I can do R3

or I can do 3 R5 If I want

[jolly junco]

it's not very good, but work on guaranteed increases like burst level and weapon level before getting better artifacts

[ripe parrot]

I maybe pull for Engulfing Lighting for XL and Raiden to share

my Raiden is c1

[jolly junco]

i did not understand that question you just deleted

[limber light]

ignore the lvl 80 weapon, but how is he other wise?

[jolly junco]

not very good, but the sands is good at least considering it's on-set

ER isn't something you should aim to build on lyney, it's just his burst is worth using if you have it available

4pc marechaussee hunter is ideal as well

[limber light]

Well I know that, but it's was hard to even get a crit dmg roll without it going into ER at least once

or crit rate

[jolly junco]

crit rate is good until you crit cap

which would be 64% pre-mh stacks on the 4pc set

atk% is also a good substat but less so than crit

I guess if you play vape lyney with furina then EM is a good substat too

[limber light]

I don't ave furina LOL

[jolly junco]

most people don't tend to play him with furina anyway

since you basically ditch his passive

[limber light]

but i've at least spent over 2,000 resin on his Domain

and that all I got that was good

[opal surge]

thats an exceptionally unlucky feather for 2k resin

[limber light]

I had good feathers with crit rate and crit dmg but I deadass tell you when they went into flat def

or all into atk%

[opal surge]

all into atk sounds a lot better that what you have right now

[limber light]

and it was the lowest crit rate too

I have thundering pulse?

is that gonna be better for him?

[jolly junco]

No

aqua is his 2nd best weapon

[rigid bobcat]

for now its rational or with kazuha instead of xingqiu

[remote pumice]

@jolly junco is this gud

[nova swift]

Not as gud as you

[jolly junco]

what are those stats from

[remote pumice]

ill tell u in a sec just is it gud

[jolly junco]

well it's clearly a lot of stats but it's not a real build

[remote pumice]

wdym?

[jolly junco]

show an enka/akasha picture with that build

[remote pumice]

thats the best pic im gonna get

[opal surge]

[remote pumice]

let me see one sec

[opal surge]

this is the akasha of that build, not including hydro resonance but why did you post it

did you just randomly yoink one off the leaderboards

[remote pumice]

yes

[opal surge]

but why

[jolly junco]

hydro resonance still doesn't get that build up to the 40k hp in the picture earlier, so something else must be included too

[opal surge]

hmm it shows up as 40654 hp on the leaderboards :idk:

[jolly junco]

just hydro res would be 38053.5425

[opal surge]

Aqua refinements?

[jolly junco]

but in the image they have r1

[opal surge]

True, but what else could it be

I'm not well versed in the akasha statcard cheesing scene

[jolly junco]

neither am I

[opal surge]

aqua refinement would be close to that number, but idk why it wouldnt show

its also lower still even with r5

[jolly junco]

c4 without hydro res is.. 400ish off

idk bro its wack

[opal surge]

[jolly junco]

so yes

the first pic was fake build

fake akasha hp number

[opal surge]

akasha is a bricked site anyway, still no clorinde leaderboards

[jolly junco]

alhaitham mains complaining since last year

[kindred thorn]

How much er does xianyun need with oathsworn eye?

[narrow folio]

Soon ™️

Can't wait for Mualani leaderboards to be made instantly

[opal surge]

clorinde emilie found in alhaithams ditch once natlan releases and they forget about them

[narrow folio]

Akasha is brainrot anyway, makes people care about ranks too much

[fast glade]

My characters are quite alright but my rankings were so ass so i stopped looking at them🙏

[stable vale]

Anyone has a spare "the sharpest sword" figurine?

[green cairn]

hey is there a way to get the maintenance mek fish without fishing? like just grab them from the ocean or buy them from someone else? I’m trying to get the fishing sword and I’m having the worst time of my life

[narrow folio]

No

You either fish or you don't get it

That's the whole point

[violet cipher]

Arlechino/Mona/Yelan/Bennett
What artifacts should Mona and Bennet have?

[strange scarab]

why mona

id rather use anemo

[nova swift]

https://tenor.com/view/mona-kushina-genshin-genshin-impact-gif-21141776

[strange scarab]

nice ass

[violet cipher]

I like Mona + experimentation/curiosity

[violet cipher]

plus she's c4 so she's actually a good support.
So do I just do eosf on her if I'm running Bennet or will a different set do?

[strange scarab]

its not even that great

her hydro app is still eh

[violet cipher]

fair ig, it's a little better if I use Yelan or Xinqiu though. Regardless, for my own curiosity I'd like to try the team, so what set for her/Bennett would you reccomend?

[wicked locust]

Which one's better
The second one is with a electro goblet and first one is with attack

[sour birch]

totm is mona's support set if someone else on the team uses noblesse, but she's only useful to begin with in very specific teams

[violet cipher]

K, ty.

[green cairn]

can anyone give me some advice as to what I can do to improve my builds? I know they’re terrible but I’m not really sure how to improve them. is it just a matter of leveling everything up (character level, weapon, talents) or do I need to get better artifacts? please help 😭

[sour birch]

seen, gimme a sec to type out a paragraph for each

[sour birch]

furina:
-get the pipe sword
-level her and her talents
-your crit and HP are low. consider HP goblet when you fix your artis. either way, you're going to want more crit. go for a 1/2 ratio, i have like 70/160 with no crit weapon so maybe a little less than that as a soft goal? worth noting that there is no bonus for 5 of the same set so 4pcs with 1 offpiece with good stats from whatever other set is better. good start!

also get all 5* artifacts, i can't see the rarities but i think some are 4*

[sour birch]

ganyu:
-idk what weapon options you have, but prototype crescent is craftable and it's the bare minimum so you're gonna want to switch weapons.
-your artifact mainstats of atk/cryo/crit are good, but depending on if you play melt, you may wanna consider EM sands. idk if anyone even plays freeze anymore.
-if you're running melt, use 4pcs wanderer's troupe. 4pcs shim performs similarly but the difference is negligible and 4-shim is harder to play.
-if you're running freeze (idk if it's still viable) 4-blizzard strayer with no more than 40 CR.
-again, level everything (ofc u know that already)
-improve atk and crit, improve EM if melt

[sour birch]

Hu Tao:
-DBane is a very good weapon for her, but it provides a lot of EM so you're gonna want to run HP sands.
-try to get 4-CW, lavawalker's 2pcs bonus is pretty useless
-get more crit subs and all that, i don't think you'll need much more HP if you switch to an HP sands
again, good start, you're on the right track

[sour birch]

Raiden:
-you're gonna want to fish for the Catch for her weapon
-ofc level everything
-you're on the right set, but your main stats are off, you're going to want atk / electro% / crit once you have The Catch
-balance your crit ratio
-again, same thing as furina where you get the same bonus for 4 or 5 pieces of the same artifact set, so if you're having trouble finding something like an on-set electro dmg% goblet you can use one from a different set

okay that's all i have to say, good luck

i see a lot of fishing in your future

[green cairn]

quick question about the fishing, is there any way to make it less miserable? like are the regional fishing rods helpful

[sour birch]

not really? play some music ig... also before you fish look at your other weapon options to see if you have anything better

for example fleuve cendre ferryman is the baseline furina weapon but even though i don't have her signature, i have festering desire

so i didn't fish for that one

i definitely understand the pain of fishing, i'm probably never gonna use xiangling again because i can't be bothered to refine the catch past r2

[green cairn]

i don’t have the other optimal weapons, so I suppose my life for the next week will be fishing haha

thanks for the advice!! 💗

[sour birch]

np

typo

[sour birch]

oh also i forgot to mention that if you're using furina with anyone, especially if they heal themself, mh suddenly becomes a very strong option for their artifact set

like if ur using furina with tao she can use that

maybe not for characters whose sets are really really good for them like raiden

but for some it's a consideration

[green cairn]

oh alr!! ty :)

[swift mango]

why does my discord account still show genshin even after unlinking?

i have reloaded

and signed out

[minor gale]

as someone who is just starting the summer event, what is the best way to approach all the quests/eclporation/tasks, and in what order?

[wet plank]

Main quest to unlock areas > minigames/event > explo

[minor gale]

Dope tysm. The main quest is shown on the event menu right?

[wet plank]

Yeah

[neon harness]

I recommend, when you start exploring after the minigames and quests, use the interactive map

[jolly junco]

do you really need the interactive map for it though?

the event map gives a locator item

which later upgrades into one that shows every single one on the map

if you just run around and use the locator item you'll find vouchers easily using the precursor one first

[neon harness]

i just like clearing the map one section at a time, its faster imo to use the interative map

considering the event is ending soon, i think they would prefer to speed through everything

[jolly junco]

idk not sure if its faster

since you don't even need close to the max to get the upgraded version which shows all voucher locations

maybe if you play on two monitors

otherwise you'll probably spend more time alt tabbing and marking the interactive map than the time you save by just using the locator

[neon harness]

I do use 2 devices don’t most ppl?

I play mobile

[jolly junco]

I play on pc and only use one device

[neon harness]

i usually just use mobile for just exploring, i save the quests like archon quests for bigger screens for better quality view

[azure palm]

does the summer tide event end on reset in a few hours or do I still have a day to do everything?

[jolly junco]

you still have over a day

[azure palm]

thank you 🔥

[jolly junco]

it lasts right up until maintenance for 5.0 starts

[azure palm]

oh gotcha

that probably gives me enough time to grind it all out 💀

[jolly junco]

its more than enough time if you actually focus on it

[neon harness]

spam click through the quest

[azure palm]

you right

rewards take higher priority than dialogue atm...

[jolly junco]

even if you don't skip dialogues, doing everything including exploration and all minigames shouldn't take more than 8 hours tops

taking it chill

[vale sequoia]

What gives a lot of primogems if anyone free can you help me get primos (ping me)

[lyric cargo]

the area right before Fontaine gives 600 primos, if you complete the quest chain and find all the plumes of purifying light:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Gift_of_Amrita

[vale sequoia]

Sumeru desert?

[lyric cargo]

if you have time, then this quest chain gives pgems every day for multiple days - very little effort. but it's time locked my daily resets:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Exile_(World_Quest_Series)

[vale sequoia]

Hmmm

How many teleport things are there

[lyric cargo]

yeah, the northern region closest to Fontaine

you get the quest near the entrance to that area, in the south. when you find a drum buried in the sand

for the plumes, I recommend googling "genshin impact interactive map" to find the unofficial version with many comments rather than just one per item

[lyric cargo]

waypoints? I'm not sure, you can check on the map after you get the statue of the 7 in that area I think?

[vale sequoia]

K thx should i get the things for the shines

I wanna get kazuha

I have 23 fates

Ima buy welkin

[lyric cargo]

I usually pick up everything I find along the way and mark it off on the interactive map

that way I can tell what's left to find

doesn't really work if you're on mobile, though

[vale sequoia]

I’m on mobile

[lyric cargo]

ah. You can use markers to keep track of what you've collected and mark them off when you're on desktop
but if you're always on mobile, it'll be hard to use the map

maybe a friend can check the map while you're in coop

[vale sequoia]

I have 2 devices

So I think I can do it

[lyric cargo]

that'll do

[vale sequoia]

What are the chances of getting a early?

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwW12uQLCiw

[lyric cargo]

https://hutaobot.moe/tools/gachacalc

the odds will change a bit after 5.0, iirc it said "consolidated probability of winning 50/50 will be 55%"

the phrasing "consolidated probability" is the same one vidmilo points out at the beginning
maybe the chance will change based on how many 50/50s you've won and lost recently

[lyric cargo]

(it might just be referring to 50% + 1/10 * 50% = 55%, not sure)

[manic rune]

it does

[keen condor]

whats kavehs best team? Imam willing to hyper invest in pookie

[rugged sparrow]

either burgeon or pure bloom with Nilou

[primal latch]

Can u delete the english voice if u downloaded voice for other language? Mobile

[stable mango]

is 60/170 good ratio for alhaitham?

[keen condor]

i shouldve soecificed i want a onfiled NA carry

big pp dmg

[rugged sparrow]

as Kaveh?

[maiden elbow]

if kokomi uses this can she finally crit?

[rugged sparrow]

that should be cdmg, which site is this...

[near prism]

that should be a misspelling, it should be cdmg

[narrow folio]

The weapon is crit dmg, this is translated incorrectly

[lyric cargo]

I don't know if we can know that, at this point

all I've seen is the "consolidated probability" note

[manic rune]

Which is prior chance + whatever system they added

doesnt matter how it is calculated, it will total to 55%

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/news/detail/125274

all they've ever said so far is "consolidated"

[keen condor]

in kaveh we trust

Dose bennet kaveh furina nahida work

[lyric cargo]

This is what I mean, they say "consolidated" when they mean "on average".
The chance of getting a 5-star isn't actually 1.6% per wish every time, so I'm not sure we can assume it's 55% on every 50/50 either

[lyric cargo]

What are you trying to do with that team?

The only Kaveh team I've heard of is Kaveh + Xingqiu + Nilou + Nahida
where he's used because he takes little damage from bloom (he probably doesn't actually trigger it himself much, that would be Xingqiu)

[lyric cargo]

is this intended to burgeon?

[tepid finch]

yall is that melusine cardboard weapon good for sayu

[jaunty topaz]

Does any1 know where this chest/task/mission/whatever is?

I looked at videos that show all chests but they all skipped this 1 (unless i missed it but i went thru the parts of the videos around this area like, 7 times), so idk what to do

[marble fern]

It's necessary to level up dehya skills?

[unkempt gulch]

I think it was here If I remember

(underground cave)

[jolly junco]

if you use her as a support then only skill
if you use her as an on-field dps then burst>skill

[lyric cargo]

google "genshin impact interactive map" (that'll give you the unofficial version, which has many comments from other users)

[jolly junco]

it's alright

I would generally say favonius or the inazuma craftable are better though

[jaunty topaz]

I keep forgetting about that, thx (still didnt find it but its just a few primos so doesnt matter)

[feral forge]

early? wake up bud

[feral forge]

yo apple wuts gud

[jolly junco]

hello

not much is going on at the moment

[feral forge]

i mean xilonen jus got dripped ya gonna pull?

[jolly junco]

if she's good I most likely will, yes

[feral forge]

who ya savin for then

[jolly junco]

attractive adult female increases a characters pull value on my account

[feral forge]

truer words hv nver bene said b4

[jolly junco]

well I would like 3 copies of arlecchino

and the pyro archon

[feral forge]

ooh nice father is gud dintcha get her copies on 1st banner?

[jolly junco]

i have c3 currently yes

[feral forge]

who dat?

[feral forge]

aah goin for the home run noice

is c6 rlly gud?

[jolly junco]

it is good yeah

basically 90 cv and makes burst do more damage

[feral forge]

on a scale from C6 zhong to c6 neuvi were does c6 arle lie

[jolly junco]

same level as c6 neuvi

[feral forge]

oh dayum

[jolly junco]

those two are arguably the two strongest onfield dps characters at c6 comparisons

[opal surge]

It was faster in every abyss so far, no? Than neuvi I mean

[feral forge]

one shots?

[jolly junco]

not on both halves if you mean arlecchino

[opal surge]

Oh okay

Oh I guess arle and neuvi are doing different Half's this abyss

[jolly junco]

last abyss first half the fastest clear was arle i believe at 35s, neuv was 37s

[feral forge]

ye

[jolly junco]

but neuv was much better 2nd half than arle

[opal surge]

Makes sense

Was Pyro shields tbf

[feral forge]

wuts the teams

[jolly junco]

i dont remember exactly

I just remember the first half times

[opal surge]

I recall a few C6 runs bottom half with venti furina neuv +1 last abyss

[lunar swift]

did they show where natlan will be located on the stream?

[stiff minnow]

Is 1 Mil possible for a f2p Hu Tao nuke ?

[unkempt river]

Am I done?

[wind bolt]

Yes

[wind bolt]

No but some ppl have triangulated it or sum thing

[wind bolt]

C0r1 should be able to hit it i think

[quaint fern]

when the coop teammate doesn't tell us that their nilou is built for vape and the whole team goes regular bloomge and then you wonder why your only blooming for 20k

[feral forge]

uhh

[sacred bridge]

Is shenhe only good for ayaka freeze?

[wind bolt]

Ganyu

[quaint fern]

better suited for ganyu at c6 though

[dusk mesa]

idk where to ask this, but how do i improve my arlecchino?

im planning on farming for new artifacts when 5.0 comes out

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1272283682974990461/Untitled_Artwork.webp?ex=66cd87c3&is=66cc3643&hm=07b7eb1ba262b88664ea28ccc5e535b8f0d1caed641b54ab4caf50b0b3928e60&

(better way to get feedback)

[dusk mesa]

i have that but i cant download it on my phone for some reason, i cant go on my pc rn so thats why i recorded it

[neon wave]

Pyro gob, atk sands, better circlet

Preferably more CR

Ideally you'd get a little more EM from subs if you play her in vape, but idt an EM sands is usually worth running

[lyric cargo]

ah
(maybe a different browser would work, I have both firefox and chrome on my phone for website problems like that)

[minor gale]

How good is keqing compared to other dps?

[jolly junco]

she's a pretty good on-fielder for aggravate with fischl

not really the best though

I always find keqing a bit.. unimpressive

even with c6 and mistsplitter with top 1% artifacts

[wet plank]

She always feels like she has massive discrepancy between sheets and ingame performance

[jolly junco]

real

[wet plank]

No other character felt so off from sheeted dps than her from my personal experience at least

[jolly junco]

i feel the same way

not sure exactly why though, apart from charged attack spamming being impractical sometimes

it just feels like her team dps is 25% lower than what it sheets

im pretty sure my arlecchino can solo faster than keqing full team

[minor gale]

Ahh i see ty

Asking cuz im trying to decide what i want to do for my guaranteed 5* selector

I dont really have a preference, since i already have the characters i actually wanted jean and mona (no cons),

[lime shore]

u could try getting jean cons

or tighnari

[lyric cargo]

yeah, all options are kind of replaceable even with constellations

some say Tighnari is technically the best (both at low const and at c6)
but I'd have to c6 him to see if I'd actually use him then. Right now I just bring him for very specific abyss enemies (Seahorse?)

could pick whoever helps balance your element count for theater the best.

[lyric cargo]

like, there's c4 jean but I don't know if there's a team slot for her in teams like Xiao, Faruzan, Furina, Xianyun

there's also the option of getting whichever you have at highest const level, so you'll get starglitter for wishes every time you get another copy after c6

[minor gale]

Yeah my account isnt very invested in lol. I played very on and off but only recently started playing again due to natlan and capitano. If you givr me some time, i could post my box to get some advice

Im a little tempted to pull for kazuha because of f his support value, but i like capitano way more so im not sure what to fully do

[opal surge]

You should have no issue whatsoever garantueeing capitano after kazuha, as it's already confirmed that he's not 5.1 at least

Scara arle released in .6 patches, but there's no real reason to trust the pattern stays fwiw

[quaint fern]

Only xilonen dripped

Ganyu/Shenhe rerun SURELY

[opal surge]

Shenhe maybe I don't believe in ganyu

[quaint fern]

Three reruns SURELY

[opal surge]

Rizzley shenhe maybe

[rugged sparrow]

friendly reminder Wrio is the only char from pre-x.4 patch that doesn't get a re-run in the same major patch

[opal surge]

One will probably be an archon

Yeah I think it's rizzly shenhe 5.1 if I had to guess

[minor gale]

I guess so. But tbh ill just stay on the safer side and save fully for capitano since he's someone that i want more

[opal surge]

• hopefully not nahida

[quaint fern]

Let.me.cope 😔

[rugged sparrow]

1.x units being exception cuz 1.x only lasted till 1.6

[opal surge]

Hoyo just hates cryo

It do be like that sometimes

[rugged sparrow]

welp I got whole 5.0 to save so good ig

[opal surge]

Not gonna get Chevy cons should she be on raiden banner?

[quaint fern]

Capitano will make cryo great again

[rugged sparrow]

dont wanna risk pity

[quaint fern]

Surely mauvika is dehya 2.0 so I can use her in burnmelt

[rugged sparrow]

cuz I want Xilo + Shen + Wrio

[opal surge]

Capitano will make Mika great again as our newest Phys carry

[rugged sparrow]

gunning for high const Wrio if possible

[opal surge]

Fair enough

Atp I'm willing to get trophy raiden for chev cons

[quaint fern]

Nah I'd clorinde

[minor gale]

Im hoping to get c0r1, but maybe further cons if needed just cuz he seems so cool

Trust that he good.

[quaint fern]

kind of hoping that he's not cryo and that's just a delusion tbf, I really need to expand my dps roster

i'll probably just end up getting c0 but we'll see what my primogem situation looks like after mauvika and c6 ganyu (assuming that I need mauvika)

[sour birch]

c6 ganyu is crazy

[minor gale]

I dont lol just cuz i want another 5* dps, i initially wanted alhaitham but that was around the time i came back from my break so i didny get him

Also, how significant is spiral abyss to primogem funds because im nowhere near the character investment required to do spiral abyss or imaginarium theatre

[opal surge]

its a 10 pull per month

Although you probably are able to get half of it by clearing floor 9&10 and theater on normal at least

[minor gale]

Yeah no im still on floor 5 lol. And i only have one dps properly built lmao

[narrow folio]

Get

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dr-evil-how-gif-19601238

I need to save for ganyu

ganyu > mauvika (if good for burnmelt or idk) > everyone else

[narrow folio]

Flopyu, Ganmid, Bumyu Good luck

[quaint fern]

surely we get new off field pyro triggers in the nation of pyro

[narrow folio]

Surely Muavika

[quaint fern]

it only took four years

[brittle cipher]

who even uses this set? (except for ssigwenne)

[brittle cipher]

and can i use barbara

[narrow folio]

Nobody who needs crit

[unkempt river]

Xianyun, Chevruse

[brittle cipher]

im going to jump

but in general

[brittle cipher]

sigh 😞 ion own either

[unkempt river]

Are you farming the domain for Navia?

[brittle cipher]

yes.. 😞and all i need is a good flower

[unkempt river]

Well strongbox all the pieces you don't need I guess. Best you can do. Though keep the good pieces in case you get Chevuruse, she's a 4* and might pop outta nowhere (copium).

Or Xianyun for that matter

[narrow folio]

Here you go

[brittle cipher]

...

[unkempt river]

that's NICE

[brittle cipher]

look how nicely this rolled too

literally gonna use it as an off piece life is woe