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[sick quarry]

Fav bow or sigewinne's signature for Yelan?

[merry edge]

sigewinne sig

for sure

if you have yelans ER at like 170-180 you will have enough to ult constantly

so use emblem artifact set and make sure to use ER sands if you are rly lacking much ER

but HP sands is definitely more dmg

or maybe it is better to use ER sands because 4pc emblem also gives dmg buffs based on ER

double hydro could also solve the issue a bit

[narrow folio]

Fav

[merry edge]

😭

[sick quarry]

An detailed explanation vs "fav"

[narrow folio]

I mean, using Sige's weapon on Yelan vs Fav is just bad. It's an HP stat stick that she can't even get the full use out of since Yelan doesn't have BoL

[sick quarry]

Hmm, I need a 3rd person here to decide lmao

[narrow folio]

It's not really that hard of a decision...

[sick quarry]

Is fav the best non 5* for her?

[narrow folio]

Yes

[sick quarry]

Eh fine, I was just coping for sigewinnes sig cuz weapon banner is a scam

[narrow folio]

I assumed as much

[paper cargo]

Which is best for yelan? They're just temporary

[neon harness]

2nd

[noble vale]

So when Natlan releases will I get another sword billit at level 4 similar to previous nations since inazuma?

You know where you stand on the tree

Or i could level 9 the lumenstone to get the billit box

[opaque granite]

not sure. better wait for strim

[fallen topaz]

If you do your daily commissions after collecting the 40 primogems, do you get long term points or no?

[elder bluff]

no

[past thistle]

hi, i have a question. i should pull for emilie or for yelan c1?

[rugged sparrow]

depends™️

[pure epoch]

drop ur character list then we might be able to give u suggestions based on it

[rugged sparrow]

which teams do you normally use Yelan

because her c1 can either be useless or be pretty good

[past thistle]

i pull her today

idk

xd

[rugged sparrow]

are you pulling for the sake of pulling

[past thistle]

nop

i wanted her

[pure epoch]

perhaps can save for natlan characters instead? unless ure genuinely into emilie

[past thistle]

maybe

i was thinking about that

or maybe go for kazuha

[past thistle]

btw

i am at 76 pity

and lost the 50/50

[strange scarab]

[wet plank]

Can always wait for livestream

[strange scarab]

Will kachina be the one to save geo or Xilonen would

[elder bluff]

why you expect a child to save what cannot be saved
but xilonen can idk I like her design

[vital prism]

is xiangling good with ayaka or wanderer?

[rugged sparrow]

no

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[lyric cargo]

afaik, Ayaka's burst pushes enemies away and then the reminding hits don't connect

that's why she's only played in freeze

[cedar flint]

as the prophesy foretold a second coming of Bennett is near

[lyric cargo]

maybe melt would be viable against bigger enemies that can't be pushed. But her burst does a lot of hits in quick succession, and probably has standard ICD? You'd only melt every third hit

mono cryo with shenhe and Kazuha is probably the way to go when freeze isn't good, or don't use her at all then

[wet plank]

Chiori already pushed the double geo flextape

Casual 20k dps

[cedar flint]

navia and chiori go brrrrr

[lyric cargo]

funny how they released them closely to each other, making people pull her c1

[cedar flint]

real

as a c2 chiori haver I can confirm

[lyric cargo]

it's like Neuvilette and Furina, optimal to use together but you feel like you're not getting the full potential without c1

[wet plank]

tbf you can't really say you have the full neuv furi experience without C2 furi

What's a backloaded buff

I only know insta cap fanfare

[lyric cargo]

I'm still looking to pull c1 Neuv, but for the interrupt resist

Furina constellations are probably the best in the game

[cedar flint]

I kinda want the wandering evenstar catalyst

[lyric cargo]

for Nahida?

[cedar flint]

but ik I won’t get it if I pull on the weapon banner lol

ye

[elder bluff]

never know if you don't try

[cedar flint]

last banner I did a multi for the er sword and got the bell so

[elder bluff]

does that ring any bell

[cedar flint]

I remember the days I hoped furina is a claymore so I could use the bell

[lyric cargo]

do you want Emilie at some point? the 5★ spear is a big increase for her, the gap to other weapons is more than usual afaik

but on the other hand it's an off-field dps. she won't have that much of the team dmg share

[cedar flint]

I don’t really care about Emilie

[strange scarab]

naw i dont want dat i want new reaction give me MUDROCK

[lyric cargo]

if the spear is good for you somehow, then it's a great banner, losing to aqua.. perfect to drain away your primos before Natlan

[cedar flint]

I already have aqua

[cedar flint]

I don’t have primos anyways

[lyric cargo]

refinements

[cedar flint]

I did 81 pulls on nilou

well not like I really want any of the Natlan characters

maybe just the chibi for collection

[strange scarab]

[dusty cape]

[strange scarab]

xilonen will save navia

[cedar flint]

I think I will save for c6 ganyu

[lyric cargo]

I got Navia in 55, then went on to pull Key after it seemed both 5★ weapons were good

might pick up Nilou on another rerun

[cedar flint]

I want the fun 30k bloom dmg

[lyric cargo]

now I gotta figure out what Furina teams to run. probably vape/melt Xianyun plunge

Neuvilette Furina and Navia / Xiao Xianyun don't really benefit from key

[cedar flint]

now you can run furina in bloom

don’t mind the fact you don’t have nilou

[lyric cargo]

Neuvilette, Furina, Raiden, c2 Nahida

friendship with Kazuha ended

[cedar flint]

ppl use yelan in plunge Tao?

[lyric cargo]

I think you do NA cancels with spears, to speed up your plunges?

[cedar flint]

sounds like extra stuff I don’t want to bother with

[rugged sparrow]

you still do n1cjp anyway no?

[keen willow]

I don't have furina so yea i do

[cedar flint]

I just want to press 2 buttons for victory

jump and plunge

[keen willow]

Yelan gives free dmg%

[lyric cargo]

I will don't do dash cancels with GaMing

then again, I don't have Bennett c6 and would have to wait for his pet to come back anyway

not like he can plunge spam

[cedar flint]

but if you close your eyes does it almost feel like he can spam plunge

[keen willow]

Not the buffed ones

[radiant rock]

Does applying electro to a burning opp trigger both overload and quicken?

[still lynx]

Would a 72 crit rate and 206 Crit damage neuv be good when on lost prayers? He has 114.2 er and his teammates would be Furina Jean and Kazuha

Main concern is the ER

Oh wait no not kazuha I meant Layla

[nova swift]

I have 115.5 ER and have never had a problem with having burst, it's basically 100% uptime

[still lynx]

What weapon?

[nova swift]

Oh yeah I am using his signature so that does give some energy 🤔

R1

[neon harness]

Do you have kazuha? You can replace jean with kazuha, cus there is a shielder and Nuevi self heals and can max fanfare all by himself

As for er, use erc

[still lynx]

I have kazuha but I think I'd rather play him with clorinde but idk

[lyric cargo]

is this including Marechaussee? (I'd always post an enka card rather than state the stats)

if the 36% crit rate from MH are still to be added, you'll overcap and have 108%, basically losing two substats

[lyric cargo]

the one problem being Furina's personal damage tanks a bit, but apparently it's worth it

[still lynx]

Oh I didn't know it did that and I didn't post the card because he's not actually fully leveled up yet so it wouldn't be the LVL 90 stats 😭

[lyric cargo]

ah. Good luck leveling him, it's worth it

[still lynx]

Uhhh

Nvm I'm stupid that was on hsr 💀

[still lynx]

Here's what it looks like currently

[lyric cargo]

still haven't decided on which artifact to off-piece, I see

[still lynx]

I've grinded the domain so much I didn't even consider that 😭

I forgot that was an option I've been playing too much hsr

[lyric cargo]

mentioned it just in case

I had to use a flower with 0cr to avoid overcap

if the EM is useful I can pretend it's 8 useful substats still

but actually it's 6

[still lynx]

My overcap is so high idk what I should do about that

[lyric cargo]

probably start considering artifacts as if the crit rate rolls didn't exist

[still lynx]

Maybe I do something about that hydro piece it has quite the Crit rate

[lyric cargo]

maybe your goblet could be changed for an off-piece that has mainly crit dmg?

[still lynx]

Maybe I can get more er via that too since I still don't know if I have enough 😭

[lyric cargo]

a bit more would be comfortable, I think. He's with Furina, or solo hydro?

[still lynx]

Yeah furi is with him

Layla and Jean could have that one sword that generates energy too but idk

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably run Kazuha as well, though I don't know if Clorinde would miss him

[strange scarab]

Gusy why does my elegy looks strange

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/skyward-pride-genshin-impact-wish-gif-24332351

[atomic abyss]

I don't have a reverie set for Emilie yet, can I use 4pc emblem or a 2pc 2pc as sub?

[jolly junco]

4pc deepwood if your team doesn't have res shred, 4pc golden troupe, 2pc mix

[lyric cargo]

if this is accurate, I expect 2pc 2pc to be better than GT due to substats?

[strange scarab]

its weird yk this elegy doesnt shoot arrows at all

[jolly junco]

everyone and their mothers has dumped 20k+ resin into MH/GT domain

[jolly junco]

must be bugged

[neon wave]

Try relogging

[lyric cargo]

maybe it's just the arrow, and you need to pull for the bow separately?

[near prism]

i think gt is closer to like 5% better, but can change with sig and depending on the burn uptime

[strange scarab]

how does one obtain this lamppost for teapot

[jolly junco]

yeah i think that's it

[near prism]

sell a kidney

[lyric cargo]

try to pull aqua, you'll get it

[strange scarab]

a small price to pay

[near prism]

higher burn uptime and sig weapon make GT worse

since you can Q every rot and get more A1s (emilie's A1 is not skill tagged)

[strange scarab]

hrm if only she turns the reaction into something different just like nilou does

[lyric cargo]

they were saying that as well about GT, that a decent part of her damage doesn't come from her skill

[strange scarab]

tho i cant even come up with how to make a unique burn reaction

[near prism]

its a noticable part but id say its less relevant without her signature weapon, and the more burn uptime the more A1s she gets

usually in an 18-20s rot she only gets 3-4 A1s, 4 A1s is like 2.4k MV

it can be more, but meh

[near prism]

idk, i think it'd be a bit boring if they decided to make any reaction focused dps into nilou

i like emilie, she has some restrictions but she does a lot of damage if those restrictions are met

and you can take some hit to her damage for burn uptime and fit her into different teams

[strange scarab]

i blame the social media for brainwashing me into not liking her design

cuz thats whats stopping me from pulling her

[lyric cargo]

I'll wait until end of banner, see if teams I like emerge

[strange scarab]

like i cant even explain what exactly is the reason that makes me not want her lol

[lyric cargo]

I like team versatility, so the more viable teams the more likely I'm to pull

[jolly junco]

her team versatility is actually pretty good, it's just that it needs to have burning or her damage will suck

[near prism]

its mostly just
quickburn (ideally only 1 electro char)
burgeon
furina f vape
monopyro
2geo
reverse melt

[lyric cargo]

there'll also be a 5.0 livestream before then?

[near prism]

she's fairly versatile, you just need like >50% burn uptime

[strange scarab]

wait 2 geo fr

[jolly junco]

2geo + pyro onfielder

[near prism]

or c6 bennett quickswapping to apply pyro

[jolly junco]

can wheelchair ur yoimiya or yanfei with 2 strong off-fielders in the form of chiori and emilie

[near prism]

navia bennett emilie chiori also works

[strange scarab]

i told them to my friends as a joke didnt know its a legit thing

[near prism]

its hard for it to not be legit, chiori+zl is already a massive wheelchair, and emilie does a lot of damage herself too

[lyric cargo]

too bad Navia doesn't gain 20 atk% from dendro
I guess it's only a small downside

[near prism]

its fine

the only downside to that team is that burn will sometimes extinguish

[strange scarab]

man i havent been too up to date with strats since i retire from official server

[near prism]

so you need to swap in to do a chiori N2 with benny c6(to linger benny's buff and apply pyro)

[near prism]

as if, official still thinks chiori (and emilie, for that matter) is bad

[jolly junco]

nah i wouldnt say that

some people do but i dont think its the majority opinion

[near prism]

majority opinion is just the usual ''pull if you like'' no?

[strange scarab]

thats what i used to say

[jolly junco]

yes, but that's a slightly different thing

[near prism]

yeah but what most people imply when they say that is ''x isnt great but if you like them''

[jolly junco]

no I don't think it is

[near prism]

is it not? i dont mean like seelie guides, justyour average chatter

[jolly junco]

people say it in response to even characters like neuv and furina etc

[strange scarab]

i mean i guess most of them just say that because of how stuffy official server can be

[near prism]

hmm i guess

[jolly junco]

people dont know or don't like comparing characters because they feel the game can be cleared without pulling for 'meta' so they just tell people to pull who they want

at least that's what i think

[near prism]

i think thats a big part of people too tbh

but i see a lot of people talk about characters like ''oh x isnt great but if you like them go for it'' which like its not a bad way to act but it often feels like its people being misinformed

[unkempt river]

Big dam arrow haha

[jolly junco]

i don't see this happen too often, on occasion though

[near prism]

this also isnt limited to chiori or emilie

[near prism]

i mean its not like rampant ig

[jolly junco]

most of the time it's just "who you like more"

if they're asking between 2 characters

[near prism]

i think that's usually good advice assuming the asker is satisfied with it but i roll my eyes so hard when someone asks what fits with x or y character and someone says to pull for who they like without more advice

[jolly junco]

if it's just one then "if you like them"

[strange scarab]

what was it like during sige release there? lol

[jolly junco]

yes that is just lazy and doesn't provide any information

[jolly junco]

i saw people say she's not very good

[near prism]

it was a combination of people saying she's completely useless and others saying you should pull if you like

as usual a more nuanced take isnt very common on char strength so 🤷‍♂️

[jolly junco]

i also said she's not very good for a limited 5*

[near prism]

i think she'd be like, a solid c6 4* at c0

[jolly junco]

yeah if she was just a 4* on furina rerun banner it wouldve been fine

[near prism]

maybe keep her base kit as a c5 4* then make her current c1 into her c6

(as a 4* kit, i mean)

her base hp even fits a 4* hp scaler (well, higher than most but still)

[jolly junco]

there's quite a few 5* hp scalers with that 15k amount, sige is 13-14k iirc

[near prism]

sige is the same base hp as baizhu

except baizhu's hp passive caps at 50k

and we have hp catalysts

[jolly junco]

it matters less in baizhu's case anyway

[strange scarab]

i used to be that type of person but i only said that because most of the time the comparison was between two chars who provide two diff thing like their roles arent even the same so thats just my lazy response to them, now i just said let me see your roster

[lyric cargo]

I never liked that, unless it's like an addendum to other advice

[rigid bobcat]

is the lumidouce elegy worth using on a different character than emilie?

[near prism]

its a solid stat stick, but basically no one else can proc the passive

every on fielder prefers pjws

for off fielders it could be a solid stat stick though

@jolly junco speaking of idk why they felt the need to make it so lumidouce passive only applies if you deal dendro damage to burning enemies 😭 just make it deal damage to burning enemies

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that

[jolly junco]

its deal dendro damage or burn enemies, which is a bit better but heh

[near prism]

i mean ig if it was deal damage to burning enemies would be a bit too easy to achieve

the passive is really strong but like...man

[lyric cargo]

in theory, any pyro or dendro unit on a burning team can..
but you'd use Emilie on that team, and then she'd want it

[jolly junco]

imagine spending 5 minutes typing up a question including a picture of your characters asking who to pull and someone just replies with "pull who you want"

[near prism]

haha, fun fact, refreshing a burn aura does not count as proccing burn

and even if it did, dendro is almost always the element that refreshes the aura

[lyric cargo]

add the shrug emoji as well, for good measure

[jolly junco]

true

[lyric cargo]

oh, so like Xiangling on: Emilie, Xl, Ben, [filler]
Xl wouldn't fully stack the passive?

[near prism]

nope

[lyric cargo]

RIP

[near prism]

1 stack, at best

[lyric cargo]

maybe the 4th unit needs to put it out, so Xl can proc it again

[near prism]

you'd have to really try to make it 4 stacks

2 stacks* sorry idk why i said 4

you'd need to
apply dendro
make xl proc burn
end burn aura(without having pyro aura leftover)
apply dendro again
make xl proc burn again

all this without having dendro aura be supplied in the background, because dendro on burn refreshes the aura

[near prism]

i meaaan, maybe

but there's still like a pretty high chance the dendro procs burn lol

[lyric cargo]

yeah, makes sense

[near prism]

esp considering xl doesnt have an on demand source of pyro

you'd have to time it with pyronado or god forbid guoba

you might as well use catch atp

even emilie (who would usually be the one to refresh burn) couldnt fully stack lumidouce if it wasnt for the dendro damage add-on

idk why hoyo decided to make it so refreshing burn doesnt actually count as proccing burn but...whatever

[lyric cargo]

you'd need something like
strong dendro app
pyro app
enough hydro to put out burning, but not enough to clear dendro

but then it's a burgeon team and you just put a crit spear on your burgeon trigger 🤔

[near prism]

you dont need strong dendro app, dendro can be reapplied

but it'd need to be like

nahida NA>xl E guoba hit>apply hydro>nahida NA again before guoba applies pyro again

[lyric cargo]

I was thinking it needs to be strong enough that dendro is the aura
so the pyro unit is the trigger for burning

[near prism]

it'd be incredibly painful to actually use

[near prism]

also idt you can have dendro aura leftover after burn

burn itself applies a pyro aura every 2s

[lyric cargo]

oh, somehow I thought there'd be dendro leftover after you clear the burning with hydro

[near prism]

i can test to see if you end burn quick enough

but im fairly sure pyro just eats up the dendro aura entirely

ill test w nahida E, thats the highest GU of dendro we have

@lyric cargo you can have dendro leftover, but with nahida's E+1U of pyro and xq E, you proc 1 bloom and then the aura itself only lasts for like 1 second then it goes away on its own

[lyric cargo]

dealing Pyro damage every 0.25s for a short duration. Burning applies Pyro to the enemy and its surroundings every 8 ticks (2s) of damage.
Was not aware it's every 2s, I thought it'd be every 3 hits

[near prism]

thats also assuming you dont let burn apply pyro again

on the other hand

if you time it correctly you can make it so your dendro hits right after you extinguish burn

[lyric cargo]

so basically, they succeeded in making a weapon that's only for one character. again. 😆

[near prism]

ig if you get lucky xl could in theory fully stack it, but idt its something you make your rotation around

its just something you go like ''hey thats nice'' when it happens

[strange scarab]

all dis signature conversation is too hard for me to understand when my weapon banner history is 0

i'll just be happy with my event weap and craftables

[near prism]

nahh i mean, xl can fully stack it...i guess

not reliably or at the start of the rot but it can happen

[radiant rock]

How does burning even work on elemental opps? Does it demolish cryo shields? Or does the pyro app get consumed by the cryo and not trigger burning?

[frozen obsidian]

With C4 Father, what should my rotation be with overload? I usually E+CA with father, ult/e fischl, ult + e w/ chev, ult w/ benny, then ult > E+CA. What's the optimal rotation here?

[jolly junco]

arle e>chev qe>bennett q>fischl q/e>arle ca then normal attack combo
at least that's what I'd do

[frozen obsidian]

What about chev?

[jolly junco]

wait nvm hold on forgot chev

there we go

[frozen obsidian]

Oh, I don't CA with fischl--the end of mine should be...benny, switch to Arle then ult > E+CA. I messed that up.

[jolly junco]

in general arle's burst isn't worth using unless you need the healing

[frozen obsidian]

Any reason you don't do fischl first before chev for chev's E?

[frozen obsidian]

I burst so I can proc C2 again--unless it's a DPS loss in that situation?

[jolly junco]

what advantage would be gained from doing fischl before chev?

[frozen obsidian]

So she can E with an overcharged ball, but ig that only matters for chevs that are built for more damage instead of full hp

[jolly junco]

from the second rotation you'd have the overcharged ball, I guess you could alter it for the first one

[jolly junco]

yeah it's still a dps loss

[wet plank]

C2 has a cd no?

[frozen obsidian]

10 seconds.

[wet plank]

Likely dps loss by rotation extension alone

[strange scarab]

C2 deals big damage but not worth enough to reset bol

is just a nice nuke

[jolly junco]

for the first rotation only put fischl e/q before chev, unless you wanna do a charged shot on her

from the second rotation onwards it should just be as I said

[frozen obsidian]

Okay. I'll do your way--I can see why you have fischl last instead of benny

[jolly junco]

👍

[frozen obsidian]

@jolly junco I probably won't be doing a charged E with Chev on first rotation either way since I just swapped her to emblem and er/hp/hp w/ dialogues instead of NO and crit--I totally forgot that benny is already on NO.

I've been running them in the same team both using NO

[jolly junco]

you need to do a hE to get the ATK buff I think, which would be doable if you proc overload beforehand

[frozen obsidian]

Oh, yeah. I should do that--otherwise I'd lose 30-40% atk buff during the first rotation.

[jolly junco]

first rotation only: arle e>fischl q/e>chev qe>bennett q>arle ca na combo
arle e>chev qe>bennett q>fischl q/e>arle ca na combo
should work

[frozen obsidian]

Looks good. Hopefully I don't go smooth brain and mix up the rotation lmao

[jolly junco]

i have faith in you

[frozen obsidian]

Thank you

[nova swift]

I'm finally able to consistently hit Andrius as he's running around the arena

[honest heart]

how to get in

[honest heart]

thanks

[lyric cargo]

how I do this in general:
Google "genshin impact interactive map" to find the unofficial version. click on something behind the barrier, like a lumenspark or a chest.

someone will have written a comment on how to get in

[honest heart]

ic ok

also hi hidden,long time

[forest venture]

👋

spiral abyss no ui test

[lyric cargo]

pulling key made me realize how many teams I see that don't value EM as a stat 🤔

Neuv hyper (where I had my Furina who's now holding key)
Navia plunge
Xiao plunge
and now Emilie burning, also doesn't really care about EM

[timid iron]

how to find this?

[lyric cargo]

looks like interactive map, are there no useful comments?

[timid iron]

Yes even though I used others but still can't find it for days

Location pls?

[rigid bobcat]

The difference between Emilie with f2p weapon and her signature weapon is HUGE
but is it because she is really bad with the f2p weapon or because she is really good with her signature weapon?

[lyric cargo]

this one did it for me, iirc:

[rugged sparrow]

the latter I'd say, her sig is just nuts

[rigid bobcat]

yea i got her signature weapon yesterday on accident and im thinking if i should get her

[timid iron]

thanks

[lyric cargo]

another question (I don't know the answer to) would be what's her team dmg share?

because a weapon can improve her personal dmg by a large margin, but if that personal dmg doesn't make up a big portion of team dmg, it's of little use

since what most of us care about is clear time, not how big we can get the numbers on screen

[lyric cargo]

can always get her on a rerun, of course. when you have more information about what's in Natlan

I'd wait until later in her banner at least, when more testing has been done and we know all her current good teams

there's a 5.0 livestream coming as well, right?

[rigid bobcat]

there should be

[near prism]

defo the latter, her damage is good without her sig too but her sig is nuts

[rigid bobcat]

Thanks

[lyric cargo]

I think I like this one. good AoE clear?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mOqlEElSMM

[near prism]

its solid yea, nahida instead of emilie is probably my favourite burgeon team ive tested

although you might wanna hold off from ayato Q in AoE lol, that applies so much hydro

atleast until her turret reaches level 2

you can probably just accept you wont proc A1 and take the extra burgeons

[lyric cargo]

my Nahida is also c2, which probably gives it a big edge

I should try Nahida Bennett Kazuha.. are any hydro units suitable in Ayato's place?

[near prism]

not really, no character can apply aoe hydro properly while also allowing burn uptime

[lyric cargo]

Xq / Yelan / Furina are probably too single target
Neuv doesn't have great synergy with bennett

[near prism]

if you just want it with nahida you can slot in like xingqiu i guess but its not the same

[near prism]

neuv just doesnt have good hydro app lmao

your best bet would be c6 candace with on field bennett

[lyric cargo]

right, he's more about raw damage than application
figured it was better in AoE, but you'd also have to clear more burning there
so what matters is application per enemy

[near prism]

yea more or less, ayato having good hydro application+solid personal damage defo helps

he also just synergizes well with bennett since he's mostly atk scaling

[lyric cargo]

(checking their investment level)
what a piece

I'll never understand why these videos go through their artifacts one by one rather than put 4 enka cards on screen

takes a lot of frame by frame advancing to see every piece

[rugged sparrow]

editing

[lyric cargo]

I'd be okay with "build card links are in the video description" ^^

[rugged sparrow]

yeah that works too

reminds me of old game when we had to put imgurl for our builds

[wet plank]

shinshin.moe era

[rugged sparrow]

no like actual old game

[wet plank]

manually need to ss artifact and the site just acts as compiler

[rugged sparrow]

oh yeah

that shit is annoying

[lyric cargo]

reminds me of putting things into optimizer

[rugged sparrow]

found my old shinshin screenie

[opal surge]

holy

[neon wave]

3p shimenawa moment

[opal surge]

unlocked pieces monkaS

[lyric cargo]

I actually have most of my artifacts unlocked now

don't use strongbox in a way that could be dangerous, I mostly use lock to flag pieces I need to look at and do something with

I'd love it if they added more ways to tag artifacts, though.
trash (marked for strongboxing later)
? (unsure about / need to level and see)

[opal surge]

I could never

I would be too anxious of accidentally feeding pieces I need

[near prism]

artifacts have 2 modes

strongbox trash, or upgrade on sight

then there's the third state, failed upgrade that will act as fodder

[lyric cargo]

3rd state is identical to 1st for me, goes to strongbox even if it's +20

strongbox saves resin, fodder saves artifact exp which I'm not short on

but maybe that's because I don't level pieces immediately.. I save them if they have potential, but don't level until I have a need for them

[quaint fern]

[lyric cargo]

then I look at my 1400 / 1800 inventory and have to go through it..
maybe level everything immediately isn't the worst

[lyric cargo]

if it rolls all into EM, sure

kazuha / hyperbloom / burgeon offpiece

[rigid bobcat]

is r5 favonius bow better than aqua simulacra on yelan?

[jolly junco]

no but there are some teams where favonius is better because you cannot get enough energy recharge on aqua

e.g solo hydro yelan with arlecchino

you need about 250 ER with favonius

[lyric cargo]

Elegy for the End might be another contester, on teams where other party members want EM?

[quaint fern]

yeah I'd consider elegy for arle, but keep in mind that she doesn't vape too many of her hits

[lyric cargo]

vaping the initial hits is more important, as her bond of life drops off - right?

I imagine it's quite the strict setup, to make sure you vape the right hits

[lyric cargo]

she doesn't vape too many because of standard ICD normal attacks and no CAs except for the initial one to proc bond of life?

I know little about Arle, they came out while I wasn't playing

[quaint fern]

yeah that should be why

unlike tao where you do n2c and then vape a normal + CA

[quaint fern]

as for which hits she vapes, idk

it's probably fastest to just put the rotation into gcsim and then count with that

[lyric cargo]

curious, so that makes them a pyro unit that benefits more from monopyro than traditional vape?

[quaint fern]

there's a reason why you see people talk about arle chevy and not tao chevy I guess

[lyric cargo]

(monopyro benefits being things like pyro dmg% from xiangling c6)

[lyric cargo]

I guess that's why people are playing her with Emilie as well

[quaint fern]

actually that reminds me, has anyone tried lyney burning with emilie?

[quaint fern]

eeeeh I'd be a bit careful with that, you might end up killing yourself with vape (okay that didn't trigger filter LOL, I thought that ky[you know what] would trigger it)

[lyric cargo]

with burn?

[lyric cargo]

iirc someone said yesterday that it's good in theory - if you can avoid getting hit and interrupted

[quaint fern]

yeah especially because building enough ER to burst every rotation is a loss in dps

but idk, new teams idk if anyone has actually tested that

I don't have either arle nor emilie so I can't really do that myself

[lyric cargo]

replying to:

would lyney kazuha bennett emelie do alot of dmg

[quaint fern]

it's been a while since i've looked at his kit so correct me if i'm wrong

but he doesn't have an instant charge like nari or ganyu c6 right?

[forest venture]

nop

[lyric cargo]

no faster charge either, afaik

[quaint fern]

yeah idk about playing him without IR then

yk, emilie might be good in klee teams for all we know

but it's klee so unless you have the def shred con

[forest venture]

does emilie snapshat

[lyric cargo]

iirc people said no, yesterday

[forest venture]

hear me out, emilie overquicken

[opal surge]

its fine

[lyric cargo]

like this?

[forest venture]

my first thought is replacing thoma and cyno with xl benny

[lyric cargo]

problem might be Cyno's uptime vs Benny's

maybe another on-fielder like Clorinde?
they also came out while I was gone, so I don't actually understand their kit very well

[jolly junco]

you dont get very good burn uptime with double electro, especially with fischl

i have seen multiple people try out clorinde, fischl, thoma, emilie and it's just whatever

basically just a downgrade to a regular clorinde aggravate team

now raiden, xiangling, bennett, emilie seems alright

no idea how it performs on paper to other raiden teams but it works

you could do something like what furina fan suggested

and onfield emilie

so she can take advantage of bennett's buff

[lyric cargo]

I saw that yesterday as well

[near prism]

This team doesn't work that well
It's like 30% aura uptime

[lyric cargo]

here

[jolly junco]

it needs a name

the team

[near prism]

Which one, the 2 electro one or the Raiden Emilie one

[jolly junco]

raiden emilie

[near prism]

Overburn 🔥

[jolly junco]

boo

[near prism]

What are the chances EM Raiden is better than ADC Raiden because of the overload

[quaint fern]

Galaxy note 7

Wait nvm there's no grass in that name

[jolly junco]

boo (2)

[umbral sedge]

boo (3)

[near prism]

Call it burnrot

[lyric cargo]

are there any aggravates / spreads?

or just burn and overload

[near prism]

Should be like st least 30% quicken uptime

So there are like..some of them

[jolly junco]

i saw some in the video

[rigid bobcat]

around how much ER do i need on yelan with aqua simulacra if i do Alhaitham, Nahida, Yelan, Kuki

[honest quiver]

returning to genshin and need to clear ar accession 2, what characters should i upgrade and use?

[unkempt river]

I know burnmelt exists, but does burnvape exist?

[hard narwhal]

when do u use deepwood memories & gilded dreams for nilou bloom/hyperbloom teams?

[wanton pawn]

i REALLY hope this will be worth

[opal surge]

Is there hidden stuff in simulanka? or is this all

[lyric cargo]

a cryo unit triggering melt consumes 0.5 units of pyro

a hydro unit triggering vape consumes 2 units of pyro

burn applies 1 unit of pyro every 2s, so with that you can trigger two melts or one vape. if you apply too much, you'll react away the burning aura.

afaik it's possible but you need slow hydro application (big hits rather than many, so those few vapes you get are really worth it)

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSotC-rCYQ

[unkempt river]

ahh makes sense, furina then?

[lyric cargo]

I'm not sure how it compares to alternatives. people have used Furi + Emilie + Ben + Xl

but I haven't seen any really impressive runs, yet

[unkempt river]

Yk how I have the Lumidouce on Xl? Was wondering about which teams I should try

Someone suggested Alhaitham, Furi, Xl, Benny

[lyric cargo]

sadly: #📌gimshim-help message

[unkempt river]

oh damn

why hoyo, whyyyyy

Guess I'm getting Emilie on a rerun then

[lyric cargo]

So, I checked the "save account info" box on my laptop, a couple days ago. Got an email basically saying "if this was not you, change your password"

now, every time I go to update the selected chars here I get this and have to do a captcha to prove I'm human 🤔
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/m.html

(I use "log in via google", so there's no password at hoyolab I could even change)

[calm atlas]

just use the gadget that instantly detects all chests and challenges. If it says nothing left to mark then that means you've gotten everything

[quaint fern]

And yes 242 should be max

Not sure if there are any hidden chests without those though

[elder bluff]

there are mora chests that the gadget does not show for you

[random marten]

is the fantastical fabricator gacha thing based on rng? or can i actually get them all?

[strange scarab]

rng

theres a reason the trading option exist

[lyric cargo]

I think I got all the rewards without trading

do I need to go back and check

[bold herald]

narwhall wont let me enter its belly the second time, is it because its hp is too low?

[still lynx]

Can someone explain Clorinde's crit rate talent???

Is that even triggerable normally

[jolly junco]

it's explained quite clearly. I think your question might stem from a misunderstanding of how bond of life is displayed. if you see half of your character's health bar with a bond of life, that is a 100% bond of life. if you see the full health bar, it is 200%

[still lynx]

Oh so 3 Es easily triggers it?

[jolly junco]

Yes

each pistol shot grants a 35% bond of life

and you consume them quickly using impale

[strange scarab]

yeh

[elfin tusk]

Is putting em on Emilie a good idea?

[jolly junco]

no

[elfin tusk]

Aw I guess xl gets the dragon's bane instead

[strange scarab]

she gets the catch

[elfin tusk]

Fuck

[keen willow]

Is xiangling famous

[amber raft]

best build for c1 yelan , gonna be using her with yoimiya bennet zhongli , what are the best weapon how much er considering c1 and best artifact set and talent

[strange scarab]

[opal surge]

Emblem, burst > skill >>>>>~~ NA~~, favge this is roughly her ER requirement assuming that you run favge on yelan (or ZL) and you catch both yelan e particles on yelan

[amber raft]

what website is this?

[opal surge]

its the energy recharge calculator linked in the pins

[keen condor]

Is Emile better than nahida at maintaining burning?

Not dmg just maintaining the reaction

[opal surge]

no

she has slower dendro app so she is by default worse at refreshing it

[keen condor]

Oki thanks

[ripe parrot]

If i get emelie wich weopen is good on her?

[ripe parrot]

Nahida is beter on bloom/hyper bloom and emelie is vbetter on burning

[strange scarab]

dats not what they asking

[lyric cargo]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

I think I'll decide by the end of the banner if I'd be okay with building her in principle
I won't pull her now, but I might go for the weapon banner if I'm going to pick her up eventually

[unkempt river]

Are all Resonance Stones one time uses?

[wet plank]

Yeh

[keen willow]

We need a domain for character upgrade stone thingies i cant be getting 3 for every 40 resin now

[strange scarab]

just buy crack from paimon Vro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/554984861748822016/1227901007246262342/20240411_143938.jpg?ex=662a16ed&is=6617a1ed&hm=7f690c252052770b120a843ea28d2b3efef7bd18b1e8c78dfb4b03a814985c53&

[lyric cargo]

at ar800, you'd expect to have high enough world level to get hundreds

[keen willow]

At ar800 it takes 250 resin to claim one thing so i camt

[forest venture]

we can at least have a world level 12 unlocked at ar60

[lyric cargo]

wonder if we'll ever see a char like Sucrose / Mona / etc that gives a refund chance when merging ascension crystals

[ripe parrot]

thanx 🙂

[amber raft]

which world quest do i have to do for bygone eras

[opal surge]

Shadows over petrichor or something like that

[rigid bobcat]

Which team's better?
1: Alhaitham, Nahida, Kuki, Beidou
2: Alhaitham, Nahida, Kuki, Yelan

[forest venture]

2

[strange scarab]

is this good

[wet plank]

Not too bad

[lyric cargo]

trying to understand Emilie's scaling with the number of burning opponents

When nearby opponents are affected by Burning, they will give off Scents at intervals, and 1 Scent can be created this way every 2s.

Each time it collects 2 Scents, the Level 2 Lumidouce Case will consume Scents and release Cleardew Cologne that deals AoE Dendro DMG equal to 600% of Emilie's ATK to opponents.

So if there is one burning enemy, that's 1 Cleardew Cologne every 4 seconds.

If there are two, it's one every 2 seconds.

If there are 4, would there be sufficient delay in picking them up that it fires twice? Or would those 4 scents every 2s still result only in one Cleardew Cologne?

I guess the scents wouldn't all be created at once, so that shouldn't be a problem

[violet mountain]

Question, does PJWS work on Emilie if she’s off field?

[strange scarab]

come on baby dont say maybe

[sly lava]

fischl on elegy? which set

[quaint fern]

Adios

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/sorryidontspeakitalian-spongebobitalian-spongebobwormy-spongebob-patrickitalian-gif-18339046

[paper cargo]

Is this decent? What should I improve? (I'll get her 90 and talents up once I get the time)

[wind bolt]

More cr

Cr circlet might help

[paper cargo]

Alright and that's it? cdmg is fine?

Or ideally how much cr/cdmg should I need, all I know is 170/200 er

[wind bolt]

Cd could be higher

Like 70+ cr and then as much cd as youcan spare ig

[paper cargo]

Okay so I can probably get a cr circlet and switch flower for full cdmg and I'll likely be at 80/120

[wind bolt]

Hood enough

[paper cargo]

Alright appreciate it, thanks!

[sour birch]

cr and cd could see significant improvement, ER may be low for some teams but should be fine

back when i used fav my softgoal was 70/170 200ER

w/ 30k hp min ofc

[paper cargo]

Is that doable tho? I feel like you'd need all 40+ cv artifacts in order to reach that

[sour birch]

yeah it's not bad, just use crit circlet

[unkempt river]

Furina on Key or Fav? What does Key make her do?

[quaint fern]

key is better in teams where

1. you have enough ER
2. the team does significant reaction damage that can take advantage of the EM buff given by key

vape and quickbloom come to mind

speedrunners quite like using high refine key because it gains a lot from refinements

[unkempt river]

hmm, so in a team with Neuvi and Kazu Fav would be prefred?

[quaint fern]

you probably don't need the ER in that team

I'm pretty sure pipe is better or if you have jade or smth

let me check

[unkempt river]

aight

[quaint fern]

yeah look at the 130 er section

go key I guess, you probably want hydro goblet though

you don't really benefit from the EM in neuvi team but w/e

[opal surge]

I don't think you get away with 130 er on furina in neuv teams

[quaint fern]

unless you want to play hyperbloom on the other side, then I'd perfer key on furina + key on kuki

[opal surge]

Do you?

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

you can check but kqm is usually pretty conservative with their ER reqs

[paper cargo]

Sorry for the bother, is this better? I get another 5% crit rate once I ascend her too

[quaint fern]

yeah that's better

if you're happy with it, it's usable

but I'd keep farming

[paper cargo]

Yeah I'll likely at least try and get a better sands/feather

But I'll take it easy, for now I just want her to be usable

[trail hatch]

Can any good tighnari teams come out of these characters?

[wet plank]

With a bunch of favs yeah

Only issue is if noob not on energy refund weap he doesn't have the luxury to feed particles into furi, which bumps her er req a bit

[topaz pier]

what stat and substats i should focus on my Raiden? any recommendations?

[quaint fern]

with neuvi worst case should be like 150-160, no?
it's not that high iirc

[wet plank]

No funnel + no favs should be like 150-160 ish yeah

[wet plank]

Can check raiden section here
https://tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds

[topaz pier]

oh myy, thank you!!

[kind raptor]

FUCKING KKEYYYYY

I LOST IT THREE FUCKKING TIMES

[quaint fern]

Key is goodge though

I lost to it twice

Then was forced to pull for nilou by friends

[kind raptor]

I LOST IT I GOT THE OTHER FUCKING WEAPOM

I WANT IT FOR JILOU

[quaint fern]

And then I missed Nahida until rerun

[kind raptor]

NILOU

ALL THREE FUCKING BANNERS

[quaint fern]

Okay that's on you then if you don't save enough for hard pity

[kind raptor]

I ALWAYS GET WHAT I WANT UNLESS ITS FUCKING KEYYYY

[quaint fern]

If you had saved all those pills for the latest banner, you would have been able to max fate points

[kind raptor]

I GET EVERYTHING I WANT, ALMOST ALWAYS WIN 50/50 AND 75/25 BUT I CANT GET FUCKING KEY

[opal surge]

[quaint fern]

All I can say is L + bozo? You really shouldn't pull on weapons of you can't guarantee hard pity

[opal surge]

[pliant light]

Does anyone wanna help me get these artifacts for my main team and level farm

UID : 673777413
Server : American

[neon harness]

#👥gimshim-coop

[severe drift]

So I’m wanting to build a burn team: Emilie, Arrle., Kirara, and Lynette (I know this isn’t arrle.s best team but i like these characters and want to make this team). For Lynette, should I do an EM build or standard attack/crit? Will EM increase burn damage with swirl?

[quaint fern]

i'd probably just do the standard atk/er-anemo-crit build

burn does very little dmg anyways

if you give kirara and lynette fav you only need ~121 er if I've done the calc right

~146 if no fav on either

[severe drift]

Awesome! Thanks for letting me know

[quaint fern]

wait actually I need to check smth about that

[merry edge]

should i use iron sting or fav sword for kazuha on a hydro team?

[quaint fern]

fav

[narrow folio]

Xiphos

[merry edge]

no xiphos unfort...

[quaint fern]

does anyone know if emilie's lvl 3 turret generates particles?

[neon harness]

G-[

[quaint fern]

assuming that arle feeds to emilie
left is assuming that her lvl 3 skill generates a particles, right is that it doesn't generate. I honestly don't know if it does or not
no enemy particles btw

@severe drift sorry for the ping, these numbers should be right

[severe drift]

Oh wow! Thank you so much for doing all the math! I really appreciate you

[quaint fern]

these should be a more realistic scenario though

bottom has 9 enemy particles (assuming none are generated while emilie is on field)

I'd probably just give kirara fav and then lynette can get whatever

[quaint fern]

that is unless you have dockhand or smth

[narrow folio]

Numbers

[quaint fern]

5 particles from turret might be a better assumption but w/e

only goes up by 3-4% tho

[narrow folio]

Pull Emilie and find out

[quaint fern]

i'd rather not

yeah idk I assumed 1 particle every 3 sec

[narrow folio]

smh, a real helper would

[quaint fern]

but her passive counts as skill dmg so idk if that can trigger or not

wiki says the particle generation cd is 2.5s but her turret only hits every 1.5s

so I just assumed 3s/particle to simplify

[narrow folio]

Makes sense

[quaint fern]

(i cba to pull out the updated ER sheet so I did it manually)
(is it even updated for emilie yet?)

[narrow folio]

Probably

[next delta]

[lyric cargo]

I kinda do the opposite, only pulling weapons when both are really good for me

(which they aren't after I have one copy, so I never continue after one)

[quaint fern]

yeah that's fair

I remember pulling shenhe weapon and thinking that jade spear wouldn't be too bad on her either

I was initially going to skip calamity but the gatcha addiction got the better of me LOL

[narrow folio]

Me pulling on the worst banners in history trying to get a sig

[lyric cargo]

oh, the one way I'd continue is if I lose to the 25%, then get the one I don't path for

[quaint fern]

me pulling on amos/VV

that was a banner of all time

[narrow folio]

Recently the banners have been good but I remember pulse and summit shitter

[lyric cargo]

VV the artifact set on weapon banner?

[quaint fern]

the 4*s aren't even that good (granted, I don't know how many favs I had back then)

the later banners aren't much better tho

[lyric cargo]

ah, the MH Xiao weapon ^^

[quaint fern]

actually, this last one is okay but donut

[narrow folio]

The worst part about this is that she ran with nahida two patches later

[quaint fern]

yk I don't really regret pulling for jade cutter even though I benched that weapon
(I use xingqiu once a year)

r5 xiphos for kazu and two key copies :okayge:

eula and that weapon banner were probably the most questionable pulls i've made

3.6 banner was kind of crazy good tho 😔

[lyric cargo]

I think I regret all three 5-star weapons I pulled

Elegy vs SoSS (wanted elegy, figured SoSS would be okay because Xl BiS. but I didn't check by how much )

verity vs polar star (got verity for Nahida, but it's not like her team dmg share is that high)

Navia sig vs Key (got key, but it wasn't worth risking navia sig even after I pulled Navia. that was just sunk cost thinking "now I got Navia, her weapon would be okay as well")

[quaint fern]

why is it always dragons bane :icant:

[lyric cargo]

agreed, 3.6 was great
I did 18 pulls and got r1 xiphos, r1 stringless

good banner to keep going if I didn't already gave verity though

[narrow folio]

I genuinely think about rebuilding my Eula constantly but it's such a resin and time sink

[quaint fern]

Marechaussee is the way to go

I give up on pale flame

Yes, pale flame is better if you crit fish

Without critfish I'm pretty sure MH is better, especially if you have pines

[narrow folio]

I might do this honestly

I just hate locking characters to Furina

[lyric cargo]

the teams I want to play are usually Neuvilette and Xianyun plunge

every time I gotta figure out which one goes without Furina

this time, 2nd half is pyro lectors.. so mono hydro Neuv is definitely not at his best

[trail nymph]

What’s the best team to Yelan please

[forest venture]

yelan can be in any team as long as you make use of her burst a lot, and she pairs well with xingqiu

[faint spruce]

Is this a good roll for my hutao?

[neon harness]

Yes

[neon harness]

You can just go xingqiu yelan flex flex lol

[strange scarab]

what about this Vro

[neon harness]

Fodder

[strange scarab]

your just a hater

[neon harness]

Real (fake)

[gray oxide]

Tbh i think Navia weap is kinda mid increase for her

Only 36% dmg bonus on passive instead of the usual >40% like the other sig

Just that 5 star claymores are all just stat stick, most of the time the passive is useless

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's why I regretted risking it

I didn't get it, I got key
but looking at what could've been

[lyric cargo]

I saw someone call it Ratioburn just now 🤔

[gray oxide]

i am jealous looking at my R3 Jade Spear

:sadge:

[jolly junco]

hmm

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIbVx5vH5Yo

[silk mango]

Does 4pc gilded dreams work on kuki?
Btw I am using her with alhaitham who also has 4 pc gilded dreams

[jolly junco]

yes

[lyric cargo]

she can use the 4pc effect to reduce enemy dendro resistance for your other chars, yeah

note that I believe it doesn't stack. If you run 4pc deepwood on her, you could use other sets on the remaining chars (4 Gilded Dreams Nahida, 4 Marechaussee Hunter Alhaitham if he's with Furina)

I believe that usually Nahida is the 4DM char if she's on the team, since she's good at applying the 4pc effect to all enemies

[silk mango]

Ok thanks

[tall python]

Is emil yekan benner axiangling a good team?

[strange scarab]

[still lynx]

Is this piece good for Furina

[jolly junco]

yes

[still lynx]

Should I also roll this one or does the ER make the other one way better

This one has 4 substats at zero so idk

[strange scarab]

roll it first

[jolly junco]

its only 1 ER roll and you may have enough ER already

[still lynx]

Rolled it

Which one is better I wonder

[jolly junco]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/

the first one has a bit more useful substats unless you play vape furina

[keen willow]

So like what is emily

Just yaoyao but dmg?

[lyric cargo]

not sure who to compare to

I saw people say she's like Fischl
but her skill has long duration (22s), rotations are very flexible
so long as enemies are burning, she'll collect scents and do additional big attacks

2 seconds of burning for 1 scent per enemy
2 scents for one big attack

[keen willow]

Ah yea fishl is literally yaoyao but dmg

[lyric cargo]

Is Xiangling like Barbara but healing?

[keen willow]

I can't play her with my units they're already good enough

[keen willow]

Xiangling doesn't have a burst animation

[strange scarab]

barbara doesnt have Guoballs

[keen willow]

Xiangling doesn't dance

[strange scarab]

Guoballs does

[stable mango]

can someone help me decide a weapon for wriothesley either skyward atlas, dodoco tales or lost prayer

[lyric cargo]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

dodco isn't listed, so I'd assume it's worse

newer weapons sometimes just aren't added, but dodoco tales is old

[stable mango]

the passive for dodoco is just good on wrio so im kinda hesitating huhu

thanks for the help

[jolly junco]

It's not, the dmg% aspect of it only applies to charged attacks

his usual combo involves 3 or 5 normal attacks per charged attack

[stable mango]

what do you think is more fun burgeon thoma or shielder thoma

[neon harness]

it’s personal preference, but fun wise, prolly burgeon

[tall python]

Improvements?

[umbral sedge]

Crit circlet

[tall python]

Do i go for a cd or cr also hp not need anymore?

[crisp echo]

i would say cd for now

[tall python]

Which do i replace? these are the ones i think have good stats

[crisp echo]

left one.... only go right if u dont need ER

[tall python]

The 2nd image?

[crisp echo]

yes

[tall python]

Alright thanks

[silk mango]

Is arlecchino overload better than vape?

[jolly junco]

no not really

its competitive damage wise with c6 chevreuse if you run no defensive utility

[silk mango]

Ok thanks

[tall python]

Alright now?

[crisp echo]

looks perfect... HP is low for a lv 90 yelan if not running 2 hydro but its worth it

[rigid bobcat]

is kuki burst worth leveling up?

[crisp echo]

not really

skill is worth leveling but only if u need heal...

[keen willow]

Shields aren't technically fun

[neon harness]

Try to get more hp% subs/rolls

[tall python]

I robbed some pieces from my xinqiu and got this

Also not sure why but the hp cuts off 2k from enka

In game i have 32k

[neon harness]

Double hydro team deployed?

[neon harness]

Looks good

[tall python]

Nope

[tall python]

For xinqiu circlet btw? Is crit or atk%?

[neon harness]

Crit usually

[tall python]

Ic thanks

[opal surge]

as a rule of thumb anyone you want to build crit on wants a crit circlet

there are very rare exceptions that can be marginally ahead but theres no real point worrying about those in general

[rigid bobcat]

what do you think of my c0 nahida?

[crisp echo]

looks good... what weapon btw?

[neon harness]

Stats looks good, what set

[rigid bobcat]

deepwood, widsith r4

[crisp echo]

and better send ur nahida via enka.network

ah onfield nahida... then its just great

[opal surge]

[rigid bobcat]

not rly i use nahida with alhaitham kuki and xingqiu/yelan

[opal surge]

i mean this is not an unbuffed sheet right

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/

[opal surge]

its kind of hard to tell the quality of the build like this

im gonna wager the guess that you don't have 275 em on your flower and feather each

[rugged sparrow]

has to be EM Widsith proc with ult on or smth

[rigid bobcat]

u can check my build 738676364

[rigid bobcat]

yes

[opal surge]

small difference unbuffed

[rigid bobcat]

now i proc set

from alhaitham

do u think i should use that build for Alhaitham, Kuki, Yelan

i get around 250 EM from kuki

and widsith buffs are just insane

[rugged sparrow]

how do you get 250 EM from Kuki
and how are you gonna guarantee EM buffs every time

[rugged sparrow]

"active character"

so are you just not using your Alhaitham on-field

[rigid bobcat]

to cast the burst and skill nahida has to be active character

so she gets the buffs

[rugged sparrow]

... for 1 second and then you swap out

what 250 EM then

[tall python]

Clorinde improvements?

[rigid bobcat]

o yea

but still i got chance to get 420 EM but even if i dont i get other stats that do something

84% all elemental dmg

[opal surge]

you really want more crit rate, consider swapping to cr circlet, and you would really appreciate some atk subs

your atk is quite low

[tall python]

What should i aim for atk?

[opal surge]

Just more, without giving up other offensive stats disproportionally, there are no real softgoals

[tall python]

This ones?

[rigid bobcat]

this event seems pretty huge, around how much primos does it give?

[crisp echo]

690 primo from the event only.... theres more primos if u can explore and open chests/doing some quests at dat temp map

[lyric cargo]

Amongst the teams where Furina vapes, which are the good ones and what makes them good?

[neon wave]

~1.7k

[narrow folio]

Vapes as in C6?

[jagged rose]

i got about 1500+ primo from this event

but not 100% exploration, so it should be higher than 1.5k

[rigid bobcat]

is the event about exploring?

[neon wave]

All summer events so far have had a limited time area that you can explore

[jagged rose]

yea, and some world quest u need to follow

[lyric cargo]

"only high constellation Furina vapes are worth it" is one answer I was considering, yeah

But I'm not planning to pull c6. Maybe c2, but it seems unlikely I'll have the wishes for it

[narrow folio]

Then you don't really worry about vapes

[lyric cargo]

I was thinking of teams that vape her skill

the reason was that I recently got key, and technically it gives her more EM than the team

0.0056x HP for Furina, 0.002x HP for the team

40000 * 0.0056 = +224 EM (Furina)
40000 * 0.002 = +80 EM (team)

[brittle cipher]

can someone make me a team? Act 8 of theatre thing

[quaint fern]

Just replace xq with diano

[brittle cipher]

okay ty

[quaint fern]

Neuvi should have large enough AoE to hit Drake while flying

[quaint fern]

Unless you have c1 neuvi?

Then idk, put in nahida

[brittle cipher]

nope just c0

[brittle cipher]

is there anyway to mnock it down or?

[quaint fern]

Hit the weak point

Use bow like yelan

But not necessary with neuvi

[brittle cipher]

ohh okay ty🕺

[solid bear]

ayyy he's ar 60 now i still remembered your 50

[small blade]

[lyric cargo]

they grow up so fast!

[dusty cape]

[bright holly]

Who is this even good on since aren’t hydro goblets better than hp ones on neuvilette

[rugged sparrow]

hp gob can be good on Neuv if you have sig + Furina

just optimizer™️ it

[bright holly]

I don’t have his sig

[opal surge]

Furina offpiece

[maiden elbow]

This wep good forhin?

[violet mountain]

does anyone know if this is quest locked or if I have to do a puzzle?

[lyric cargo]

afaik it's only good on Emilie, but for her it's far above all other weapons

I guess they're trying to make people who get the weapon go for her

it's always at least a crit stat stick

but Zhongli doesn't have much personal damage, I'd give him favonius lance

[lyric cargo]

I'd check the unofficial interactive map, click on basically anything behind the door and someone will have left a comment on how to get past it

[violet mountain]

Whats the unofficial?

Well I can just google that lol sorry

[lyric cargo]

or wait for me to find it there, if you haven't yet ^^

[violet mountain]

Ah okay thank you so much!

[lyric cargo]

it seems the dendroculus is accessed by going through another area:

[violet mountain]

thank you again!

[near prism]

on that, i have, sort of good news?

proccing burgeon on a burning target procs lumidouce elegy passive

so like...higher chance xl can max stack it?

[lyric cargo]

interesting. so even someone like Arle

[near prism]

dont play burgeon arle

[lyric cargo]

basically any pyro chars that don't lose massively by being in a burning team

[near prism]

burning team that has hydro, lol

[lyric cargo]

oh, I read burning

[near prism]

nah, burgeon on a burning target

[lyric cargo]

so burgeon works because it deals dendro dmg, I see

[near prism]

it needs to be dendro damage for it to proc lumidouce

[lyric cargo]

dendro chongyun / bennett / candace, where are you

[honest heart]

guys

i got amos bow from standard and was able to buy c6 noelle from shop

[crisp echo]

are u here for help or something?

[honest heart]

oh yea i forgor about that

i got distracted fom ping in another server

[lyric cargo]

planning to use Noelle with Furina?

she's a bit niche otherwise, I think

[honest heart]

yea but thing is

i got this op ahh peice, and i ahve benn tinking

is MH still better or should i use the set

[crisp echo]

MH is okay for noelle if u run her with furina

[honest heart]

wrong message XD

i can try for MH and keep flower offpeice

but rn i nee to also build yelan

she stick at 60/250 and no hydro dmg goblet

stuck*

[crisp echo]

honestly its better to keep farming MH while u strongboxing emblem

[honest heart]

now that i see this i can just go off peice goblet as well right?

[lyric cargo]

too bad it's not petra
were you farming the domain?

[crisp echo]

yes... hydro cup is better on her

[honest heart]

yea , for kokomi and suppose to be itto prebuild

[crisp echo]

and ig u can give dat HP cup to ur furina

[honest heart]

ic ig ill just keep grinding MH, i also need better furina anyways

[honest heart]

it was on furina XD

and also i need MH for bennet dps once i c6 him

I am LONGING FOR THAT SO BADLY

[bright holly]

Is it worth refining my lv1 skyward atlas to R3 even tho I don’t use it. I also have a lv1 lost prayers

[crisp echo]

if u dont use it and u dont play much cata dps sure

this also applies if ur cata dps uses better weapon than atlas/LP

[bright holly]

I feel like pulling for wanderer just bcs I have c6 faruzan and some lv1 5star catalysts

Or hopefully natlan will have some good catalyst users that actually can use them well

But I want natlan waifu instead

[vital prism]

Hey so, I'm trying to get my wriosthley built up, and I need help with a party for him to make him a bit better. Any help is appreciated

[brittle cipher]

what are the stars for in the theatre thing?

or are they like a flex thing to show quickly you have done jt

[opal surge]

purely cosmetic

[sour birch]

cr where 😭

[crisp echo]

wrio-xiangling-bennett-diona

[unkempt river]

I'm not sure abt Wrio teams but maybe: Wrio, Sucrose, Xl, Benny

If you can I'd try Benny on instructors and sucrose on vv ofc

Perhaps even XQ instead of Sucrose could work

[brittle cipher]

what weap for tighnari?

[brittle cipher]

how tf do i get in here

[brittle cipher]

where tho…

[lyric cargo]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[brittle cipher]

like do i need to swim somehere

[sweet basin]

Try to find a way under

[brittle cipher]

…

thanks bro

[neon wave]

Teleport to the Statue of the Seven and dive in the pond to the north

[river parcel]

Dive here

[brittle cipher]

thank you to you both,i was aboutta start tweaking 😭😭 @neon wave

[unkempt river]

How much ER do you fellas have on your Kazus?

[quaint fern]

148

||+ xiphos||

[unkempt river]

ah

ty

[narrow folio]

300

[unkempt river]

And EM?

[narrow folio]

1000

Trust me

[unkempt river]

Show me the build. Now.

[narrow folio]

Dude I'm lying

Mine has like 140 ER and I don't remember the EM

[lyric cargo]

968em, 196.4 er

(including r1 xiphos)

[unkempt river]

Crazy

I did a temporary Kazu build of what I had on Anemo trav

[lyric cargo]

the xiphos is r2 now, but not on the build card yet

[unkempt river]

Haven't leveld all pieces but got 746 EM and 163 ER atm. Then I believe Kazu gains 115 from ascension too sooo

[opal surge]

[unkempt river]

crazy.

so you basically only want ER and EM?

[lyric cargo]

my flower is not especially good unless you value some weird hybrid thing between crit and EM 😅
but I wanted to be done with VV strongbox

[lyric cargo]

I realized the other day that it's going to be a bit hard to justify getting to r5

since xiphos only runs with key, and I already have key..

[quaint fern]

get another

key refines are goodge

you can always use another, one on nilou, the other on kuki

or you can put it on kirara/layla to buff the team

[lyric cargo]

for refines, yeah..
dunno if I can justify it as f2p though

[lyric cargo]

my one is currently on Furina

[quaint fern]

oh no nilou?

[lyric cargo]

I might have to pull Nilou some time, since I have key and c2 Nahida now..

[quaint fern]

fav would probably be better on kazuha than low refine xiphos anyways

[lyric cargo]

mmh, better for team energy, worse for his EM, right?

xiphos gets me more EM while still having enough ER to get his bust back

[quaint fern]

anyways here is my updated build

[quaint fern]

yeah worse for team energy

depends whether or not you need that team energy ig

[lyric cargo]

yeah

I could probably change teammate builds to run less ER

use ERC to know how much I can remove

[quaint fern]

yeah with something as complex as this, I'd probably use ERC to figure out what ER targets I need to hit

then set that ER target as a limit in optimizer

then use gcsim with both of the builds

[lyric cargo]

but since we don't have loadouts, I don't really bother to change artifacts when I use teams where ER req is lower

[quaint fern]

that should give an idea of which one you'd prefer

[quaint fern]

yeah that's totally valid

another reason why I just like to build bennett with as much ER as possible

250 should be plenty for almost every team

[heavy zealot]

Should I get more crit rate or crit damage on my Zhongli

[lyric cargo]

almost to the point, due to the circlet

I have a feeling you didn't mean with Sapwood, though. This would be considerably harder with aquila

[lyric cargo]

crit rate if you need to proc fav lance

[heavy zealot]

I don't use the fav lance

[quaint fern]

if no fav then don't bother

just build hp/hp/hp

[lyric cargo]

otherwise, unless you're trying to make him into some kind of dps it's better to build him as a support

[quaint fern]

dps zhongli doesn't exist in 2024

[heavy zealot]

I wanted to build for burst damage support

[quaint fern]

hybrid zhongli builds don't make sense in 2024

unless you have c2 and want to use his burst to refresh shields, there's no point in building crit for this burst

[rigid bobcat]

What are the chances of a character coming that will make Emilie way better?

[quaint fern]

we dont know

[crisp echo]

honestly no... ure better run zhongli as a support

[unkempt river]

Just pull her on a rerun imo

[crisp echo]

his dmg are subpar and wastes times

[quaint fern]

yeah if you don't like her now just pull on rerun when you actually have a team for her

[ripe parrot]

is it only on paper Nilou c6 is good for every 1000HP it gives 0.6% crt dmg and 1.2% crt rate

[quaint fern]

look at geo, navia didn't save geo
she saved herself

[quaint fern]

c6 nilou can be ran as a vape dps

but if you wanted a vape dps? tao, arle,

neuvi, childe, ayato isn't a vape dps but they're a hydro dps