📌gimshim-help

[wet plank]

Teams where you can actually E twice consecutively with sac tend to be sub 20s rots, so not useable until like r4-5

[strange scarab]

[vital prism]

Not sure where to put this question but I didn't wanna interupt gen chat, how do I kinda subvert genshin burnout? I love the game and I wanna keep playing it but it feels sorta stale at times

[rare iron]

Well what do you like about genshin because when you run out of content to explore, that's the daily life
You login, find crystalflies, condense your resin, do 5 runs, do comms and expedition, teapot and NRE device, fragiles occasionally (or stock up)

[vital prism]

Well I like building characters ti a decent standard. Not like, insane insane but good enough to clear at least floor 10. And I love exploring but, I kinda feel stuck?

I tried to set a goal to like, do 10 push ups every time I finished a quest or domain run but even then it doesn't help much

[rare iron]

I mean that makes you hate exploring no? So do you just not love exploring

[vital prism]

Wdym?

[vital prism]

Like, are you saying I should set like, similar goals for exploring as well?

[rare iron]

Why are you feeling stuck? And why are you doing pushups when you finish a quest

I'm just a little confused

[vital prism]

Well, just for some simple exercise, and just to keep my blood going (heart problems) plus it just feels sorta stale to explore sometimes, like doing quests or similar puzzles. I was originally thinking to just do different teams maybe

[rare iron]

I mean yeah you should be playing around with characters so it's not the same everytime

Can also prefarm some mats for rerun characters you'll know you'll be getting

[vital prism]

Ok ok, makes sense. I did that with serpent spine a couple days ago.

[rare iron]

if you're the type to like the sense of accomplishment you can set up a todolist too

so everytime you check something out you're happy

[vital prism]

That sounds smart yeah

I can for sure try that out

I could try to make a better ayaka team she's pretty fun

Thanks for the help

[sharp saddle]

trying new possibilities works too

you already love building chars, how about building teams

[strange scarab]

how about building and maintaining healthy relationship with your beloved ones

[neon harness]

Impossible achievement for genshin players 😔

[zinc needle]

should I get navia or nilou?😭😭 help pls

[opal surge]

You have enough characters not not need to pull any for account value

just pull who you like

[zinc needle]

but I feel like getting nilou more cus she can flex in dendro teams

[opal surge]

so get nilou

[zinc needle]

thx so much omg but do nilou needs high investment??

[opal surge]

well both nilou and the bloomer really need to get lvl 90, but beyond that for talents and artifacts they're on the cheaper end

[zinc needle]

ohh ok thx btw is emilie made for bloom or?? burgeon

[cedar flint]

neither she is a burning support

[lyric cargo]

makes me wonder if there'll be a burning + melt situation or possibly burning + vape as well

[forest venture]

ganyu emilie dehya benny...\

[lyric cargo]

first time my Nahida's c2 will do virtually nothing

[lyric cargo]

pyro archon over Dehya surely
(off-field pyro application is probable, but interruption resist probably not)

[forest venture]

there's gotta be some strong utility requiring the use of a unique natlan-exclusive combat mechanic like the arkhe system

[cedar flint]

well burnmelt is a team

I doubt you would want to add Emilie to it tho

[cedar flint]

pyro archon over Benny for sure

[forest venture]

it should work, as long as you don't put electro in it

[cedar flint]

in what

[mental storm]

How much er does C0 R5 fav bow yelan need in arlecchino vape?

Arle , yelan , Zhongli/Kaz , Bennett

[jolly junco]

around 250%

[mental storm]

So is it better to have an er goblet instead of hp one?

Sorry not goblet

[jolly junco]

yes, unless you have a ton of ER substats

[mental storm]

Cool thanks

[opal surge]

Emelies Polearm is probably just useless on everyone else right

I'm kinda tempted to try for aqua

[forest venture]

think about the elegy, the bow

[elder bluff]

xiangling

[jolly junco]

it's still a 5* crit weapon at the end of the day, and there is some atk% from the passive even if the character doesnt benefit from the 2nd/3rd part

hey if you play xiangling with emilie

xiangling can utilise the passive too

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

[opal surge]

xiangling stealing emelies weapon in her own team wth

[jolly junco]

on a serious note it would probably be better to just refine it for emilie and give xiangling catch but

no polearm eludes the polearm archon's grasp

[opal surge]

aqua seems pretty valuable since I have no other 5* bow, I could use it on fischl yelan in duo hydro, yoi tighnari

[strange scarab]

all dps polearm will eventually became xiangling's

[lyric cargo]

the two limited 4-star weapons are probably much less valuable than xiphos, even if a char that wants the claymore comes along?

idk if a teamwide 16% EM → flatAtk conversion can ever be good enough
160 flatAtk?

I guess the holder would need to have non-negligible atk scaling, while still wanting to build full EM

[neon wave]

I just want fav lance two R1s are so sad

I'm not pulling but

So sad

[lyric cargo]

in theory, 4-stars are pretty alright
two fav, two limited 4-star, so long as the spear is good

I already have SoSS, so I think there's little value in pulling another crit 5-star spear

[jolly junco]

wandering evenstar is a good 4* option for nahida at least

definitely not good enough to try and pull for it though

and the claymore just doesnt really have any users where they would prefer that over some other 4*

[lyric cargo]

I heard that as well, though it's behind sac fragments
maybe that's at r1 and refinements help

[jolly junco]

there is no real objective weapon ranking for nahida

[lyric cargo]

comments say: If teammates significantly benefit from the Flat Attack this weapon gives, it has the potential to rival A Thousand Floating Dreams.

[jolly junco]

wandering evenstar is generally better than sac frags though

even at r1

because the passive is actually doing something for your team

[lyric cargo]

hmm, maybe this is looking just at Nahida's damage?

[jolly junco]

I'm not sure, I wasn't involved in that weapon ranking when they made it

[lyric cargo]

I already pulled Navia and Key, so I'm down to ~160 wishes now

should probably save, I expect I'll want multiple Natlan chars

[sick quarry]

Can anyone suggest me dps team for spiral abyss I am on ar 41

[near prism]

i helped then, sac does slightly more personal dmg, im pretty sure i said evenstar should be higher but whatever 😭

[opal surge]

posting characters would be a solid first step

[jolly junco]

:blub:

[atomic abyss]

Is burnmelt wrio got given justice with Emilie now out?

[jolly junco]

through feelscrafting she should be an upgrade over nahida there

[near prism]

sac has a better mainstat, its like 0.6% more personal dps than a r5 evenstar

for personal damage only

[jolly junco]

yeah but doesn't give any team buff so it's worse overall

[near prism]

its significantly worse for team dps lmao

[atomic abyss]

But is it on par with other team comps like vapemelt with furina and double pyro and freeze?

[near prism]

ye ik, idk why its below evenstar

[jolly junco]

I don't have team dpr comparisons she was just released, it's probably better than the last two at least. vapemelt with furina may be higher damage still or at least similar, but vapemelt doesnt work properly on boss enemies

[twilit lion]

guys should i pull for emilie or yelan?

which one is more worth it?

i am planning on pulling for mavuika when she gets released

[jolly junco]

im also assuming that if you run emilie, thoma, bennett, wrio you have good burn uptime and can melt all of wrio's meltable hits, which in theory could work but i cannot verify this

[atomic abyss]

So all in all comparison, it's just situation wise?

[jolly junco]

so assuming emilie works with wrio burnmelt as i said, it should be one of his best teams

[atomic abyss]

Depends on who you'd want. Although yelan would probably be more beneficial since she has exploration, damage, sub DPS/main DPS, and easy to build

[twilit lion]

originally, i wanted yelan bc ig shes v flexible but after using emilie in her trial, im rlly contemplating

does hu tao works well with yelan?

[atomic abyss]

It's one of her best char options, so yes

[twilit lion]

are there any substitute characters for emilie though right now?

[atomic abyss]

For burn? Not really recommended but collei, yao², and nahida work

[jolly junco]

well it depends what you mean really. are there replacement characters for emilie in teams where you could use emilie to good effect? yes
but she's the only dendro character with high talent damage outside of teams with spread

[twilit lion]

i see

alright ive made up my mind

thank you guys

[atomic abyss]

Also, interesting power pic

[sly lava]

is hu tao still good

[lyric cargo]

afaik she got a bit better in AoE with the addition of Xianyun

otherwise still the same, though what enemies they put in abyss can make a difference
someone said lately it's been more AoE than before

[slender totem]

Is emilie good/worth pulling for?

[gray oxide]

Pull for zaperfume

[strong violet]

Genshin Impact disappeared from Nvidia App h.. help

[half osprey]

so i have 5 copies of r1 sacrificial fragments, and 2 copies of r1 wandering evenstar.
my nahida is currently using magic guide so should i switch to sacrificial or wandering evenstar?

[sly lava]

can someone help me, he aint doing good and ik that i need to upgrade his skills

[forest venture]

you are currently overcapping crit rate, maybe focus more on hp and crit dmg subs and level his NA talent to 9 (or 10 if you're willing)

[sly lava]

okay so should i change to hp cup

[forest venture]

and i meant not giving him hp goblet (if you're not using him with furina)

[sly lava]

i am not but so ur saying to just get better artifacts

[forest venture]

normal talents and yes, i can see needing improvement in the goblet, feather, and sands

[sly lava]

ty

[wide aurora]

guys.
lyney, dehya, emilie, bennett.

i have to say for pieces that like i offhandedly farmed, the games telling me something

[vagrant kayak]

would lyney kazuha bennett emelie do alot of dmg

[jolly junco]

if you don't get interrupted or die yes

[jolly junco]

r2 the wandering evenstar and use it on nahida

[forest venture]

what about i time my bow shots perfectly before i dodge a hit and use xia-
looks cool

[lyric cargo]

I'd definitely crown his NA before levelling skill or bust further. It's the majority of his damage.

try to have no more than 64 crit rate on the card, as 64 + 3x 12 = 100%.

I'm surprised his hp looks so low, I think I'm used to seeing hydro resonance on the card

[slim cradle]

what substats should i focus on emilie

[vital prism]

just to clarify, is dragonspine part of the exploration for monstadt? or is it a seperate thing im trying to 100% monstadt

[forest venture]

if i were to hit what she needs perfectly without looking at guides, i do atk dendro crit

[forest venture]

yes it's part of the exploration for mondstadt

[vital prism]

ok cool, also apart from the treasure compass is there any other way to keep track of like chests and challenges? or does the compass track those to?\

[quaint fern]

google genshin interactive map

[vital prism]

wouldnt i get lost trying to find ones i havent done among the ones i have done?

[forest venture]

the compass will track unfound chests on your map. and you can record your collected chests/view hidden exploration objectives in genshin's interactive map and look for context behind the chest's location

[lyric cargo]

you can mark them off on the map
if you haven't done so until now, you likely have to re-check a bunch of locations yeah :/

[vital prism]

ah ok, well when natlan comes out ill try to be more thorough, thank you guys for the tips

[lyric cargo]

it's unfortunate for mobile players who don't have a second machine to use the map on

since genshin will disconnect them if they switch apps

[slim cradle]

hmmm i havent looked at the guides but id like to ask why she needs crits isnt her build based on burn does burn crit?

[lyric cargo]

seems like hydro resonance no longer shows on cards, I can't get it to at least

[quaint fern]

emilie didn't buff burn dmg herself, she just gets more dmg when you hit enemies that are burning

• she has some pretty decent motion value

she's basically a dendro ganyu/fischl (refering to ganyu's burst/oz)

so you need to build crit on her so that she crits her hits

[forest venture]

burning dmg feels horrible to put a lot of em for her, she has high dmg scaling, and she wants to use burning to collect scents and make her turret deal alot of dmg

[quaint fern]

she's not like nilou where she buffs the actual reaction if that's what you had assumed

[slim cradle]

i see cuz all we were building her with my friend and we just stacked em and atk on her since all we know was she was focused on burn dmg but then i looked at her weapon and saw that it was crit rate and so then yes we just built her wrong lol

[unkempt river]

Anyone know what's up with no creator showcasing Emilie in the abyss?

[quaint fern]

she's only out in asia rn

she's out for eu in about half an hour

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrxTzWZN_3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8og2a5STkw

[quaint fern]

ik zy0xxx was streaming a few hours ago but idk if he did abyss

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

[lyric cargo]

I do hope we'll see teams that use the burning for melt
or possibly vape

[quaint fern]

why is it always bennett xiangling LMAO

[unkempt river]

Oh well

[quaint fern]

burning is 2u pryo iirc

[unkempt river]

Just asked cause IWTL and Gacha Gamer said they didn't have any abyss footage due to some "technical difficulties" haha

[lyric cargo]

easiest thing to try is "vanilla burning", I guess. And Xiangling is the only off-field pyro character, so there's not much choice

[lyric cargo]

oh, I think that's with the server where they give creators access before the release

[unkempt river]

huh, that server doesn't have abyss? weirdd

[lyric cargo]

more like, it wasn't available for some technical difficulty related reason

[unkempt river]

ohh, makes sense

[lyric cargo]

seems like the burning aura is 2U, but the pyro aura only 1U

iirc it was changed at some point
I'll look up kqm's dendro guide

[quaint fern]

anyways, looks like emilie burnmelt might only work in single target

just because her lvl 1 and 2 skill look single target?

[lyric cargo]

https://keqingmains.com/misc/dendro/#Dendro_Gauge_Mechanics

[near prism]

The rate of application was changed, the actual aura value was never changed

It's 1U of pyro every 2s, it used to be 1U of pyro every 0.25s

Still 1u

Idk why I wrote 2U twice

[quaint fern]

burning will produce 2u burning aura which can react with cryo iirc

[forest venture]

they just can't be powercrept no way it's impossible

[near prism]

Burn aura acts like a pyro aura but can't refresh burn without additional dendro application

[quaint fern]

you don't want to consume more than 1.5u so that burning can refresh burning by just reapplying dendro

which is 3 melted hits every 2 sec

[forest venture]

the character designer for those benny and xl are sleeping in cryo frozen pillows rn

[lyric cargo]

tbh, I don't quite understand the second dendro unit. Is reducing her burst cost important enough to shape the team around her?
I'd have probably tried kazuha, to increase Xiangling's damage

[quaint fern]

it's only 50 burst cost

[lyric cargo]

I'm kinda guessing they did it because they wanted to see bigger Emilie numbers

[quaint fern]

she gets one particle every 3s so idk

[lyric cargo]

14 minutes until Europe gets her

[quaint fern]

you pulling?

i'm skipping

[lyric cargo]

I think I gotta save, 170 wishes left and Natlan is coming

[jolly junco]

why are they all using double dendro

[lyric cargo]

same question I asked ^^

[jolly junco]

do they just want deepwood and more energy for emilie without care for team dps

[quaint fern]

Yeah I need to prep chasca/citlali funds myself

[quaint fern]

I'm wondering if they even have a good reverie set

[lyric cargo]

I wonder if anyone is planning to pull on weapon banner
pocket aqua if they end up getting that
pull Emilie (now or on a rerun) if they get her spear

idk how big of an increase her sig is, though, if it's not a big increase the gamble isn't worth it

[jolly junco]

you dont have to run reverie though

[quaint fern]

Like wouldn't it be better to just do revmelt rosaria or smth for more dmg

[jolly junco]

but since it's new, most ppl probably dont

[lyric cargo]

pulling signature weapons for most off-field dps is kinda questionable since they don't make up a large portion of the team damage

[quaint fern]

But there's no point in running double dendro unless you want to put reverie on Emilie, right?

[jolly junco]

at the current point in time i just dont see a good reason to run double dendro at all with emilie

the problem is that other dendro characters will either do bad personal damage cuz no spread, or just not give buffs which are relevant to the team

[lyric cargo]

my guess was they wanted to show the biggest possible Emilie numbers
thus trying to get her ER req really low

[jolly junco]

and you can just put reverie on emilie as solo dendro as well

its a lot of stats

[quaint fern]

Is it worth losing deepwood res shred? I'll let people calc that first because idk

[jolly junco]

im not sure what the difference is in teams without res shred

probably not big

also keep in mind that a non-dendro character can use deepwood as well

but whether that will be worth it or not will be team dependent

[sick quarry]

How is Emilie looking right now? We will probably get a ton of burning stuff, but is she viable by herself now? With what we have available now?

[quaint fern]

Emilie is in a weird spot. You have to get enough of her personal damage to offset the loss in reaction damage like melting or vaping. But there will probably be a few interesting teams that emerge while we figure out her place in the meta.

I've been told that she does do pretty significant personal damage though

[jolly junco]

that isn't necessarily true, she can fit into some reaction teams like melt

[quaint fern]

Yeah but does she have enough dendro application outside of her burst state and single target?

[jolly junco]

ive seen recordings of people playing some burnmelt teams and they work fine

[sick quarry]

Eh, her design is extremely boring like some oc, she's not important to the story, came out of nowhere, chiori and characters like this just feel.. Off

Tbh Neuvilette furina and clorinde were the only characters I liked in the whole Fontaine patch, icl

And I don't wanna speak early, but no one in natlan besides THE GLORIOUS CAPTAIN CAPITANO looks interesting either, does anyone else feel that way? The new characters don't feel like characters from the genshin world

I'll probably be going for C2 capitano and skipping everyone atp

[quaint fern]

Im going to have to look more into emile burnmelt but for sure she doesn't work with hydro dps

[keen willow]

Yapping nation

[vagrant kayak]

xilonen and mavuika look interesting

chascas design is ass

im pulling for mualani bc shes a cute surfer girl

from natlan i want mualani xilonen mavuika

[wet plank]

Degree in yappology

[amber raft]

how long does yelan charge attack take to charge without the breakthrough

[lyric cargo]

Ganyu is the only listed exception, so I assume 2 seconds:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Bow

I assume talents can modify it and not be listed here, like Tighnari's or Yelan's
but you're assuming Yelan's breakthrough isn't ready

[amber raft]

wait so her charged attack without the breakthrough is different than with breakthrough it doesnt have much aoe

[lyric cargo]

yeah

it's only worth using if you have breakthrough

[amber raft]

oh i see cause i thought that the breakthrough one is her standard charged attack or something

[lyric cargo]

the bread and butter of her kit is the burst

[amber raft]

without the breakthrough her charged attack is different then

is it worth upgrading her normal attack talent or should i leave it

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't

even the special breakthrough charge attack, I mostly use to shoot down drake slightly faster (the one currently in theater)

otherwise it's just an ability I use in overworld, for time trials where you have to break targets

[amber raft]

i see

thanks

[lyric cargo]

too bad Navia wants Mega Magic Sword
I finally had a weapon for Beidou that wasn't completely cope

[haughty hawk]

scratches ass

[sly lava]

how to incrase number of placed stuff in realm

[cedar flint]

that’s the neat part you can’t

[simple widget]

Does anybody have a reference on Emilies recommended endgame stats? I think my crit ratio is decent but I have the feeling ATK is too low. With her as Mono Dendro her burst is not up in time, but not sure what a good balance would be. Would play her most likely as Mono Dendro I think.

[sly lava]

so its limited

[cedar flint]

ye you can’t change the realm load limit which annoying I always reach the limit before I finish building something I like

[sly lava]

how to expand it, to unlock whole map

[cedar flint]

just pick a island you don’t like and fill it with expensive stuff points wise until you reach 20k points

well realm you don’t like

[unkempt river]

Should I get nahida on the Wandering Evenstar in the team: HAitham, Nahida, Yelan, Kuki?

[lyric cargo]

the load limit depends on your device, afaik

if you're trying to increase your income, try placing things inside as well. Multiple copies of an item consume less load limit, so you can place more that way.

[sly lava]

i placed a lot but it says that limited has been reached and the device is fine

[lyric cargo]

this has a segment on load limit, maybe their explanation is better than mine:
https://keqingmains.com/misc/teapot/

[vital prism]

so one of my regions in monstqadt is stuck at 92 percent is there anything i can do to find stuff? ive been doing the compass all over the place and nothing and i havnt seen any seelies or puzzles around. im really confuised

[sly lava]

ty

[sly lava]

go over with the map

[vital prism]

the intneractive one?

i dont really wanna check locations ive already done but if ittl help i suppose its worth a shot

[unkempt river]

Guess this goes on Rosa?

[unkempt river]

use the compass to quickly scan areas. if it doesn't ping there are no chests

[neon harness]

You can just also search for a yt vid that has chests that are hard to find, but if you want to comb over with interactive map then you can make sure you get 100% of everything

[lyric cargo]

might be better on a char who can trigger burning (spear archon xiangling?)
but idk what your alternative options for both are

[full sonnet]

How do i use this without killing myself

[unkempt river]

Don't have a lotta options. Should I try burnmelt Rosaria, Nahida, Xl, Benny?

[rare iron]

Pamber Nahida

[unkempt river]

You'd really want a reliable healer here...

[vital prism]

Anyone know when gaming is comming back?

[unkempt river]

yaoyao works fine (what a stacked acc)

[lyric cargo]

Alhaitham, Yelan, Nahida, Kuki
Neuvilette, Furina, Fischl, Beidou

no Kazuha for the Neuv Furina team, I see

[lyric cargo]

I usually take the screenshots where it shows levels
in the party select screen, or hoyolab website where it also shows constellations
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html

[neon harness]

Nahida yaoyao/kirara Barbara nilou for 2dendro2hydro bloom team @full sonnet

[opal surge]

wrong reply I think

[neon harness]

Yea it is

😔

[full sonnet]

Is this the legendary Barbara dps

[neon harness]

No, it’s full em barb

😔

[full sonnet]

[full sonnet]

What if i just replaced nahida with yao yao?

[neon harness]

The team with yaoyao is nahida nilou and barb

[unkempt river]

no worries haha

[unkempt river]

WHICH IS WHY I NEED KAZUHAAA

[full sonnet]

Who would i need to run nilou with alaitham kok or baizu

[unkempt river]

Quite litterally the teams I'm using rn except you got Beidou instead of Yaoyao. Now that I think of it beidou might be nice cause sheild. But isn't layla better in the sheilding department?

[full sonnet]

I was using alaitham, raiden, nahida and furina before

For a quicken team

Mostly used furina to heal because alaitham is using harbinger

[unkempt river]

yea, no healer tho?

haha, how did that work out?

[full sonnet]

Furina is the healer

[unkempt river]

Cause my skill issue is pretty damn visible

[full sonnet]

She just heals him above 90% hp

[unkempt river]

yeah but how did the team perform

[full sonnet]

I used them against aeon drake and i guess it worked well

Im working on fischal tho

[lyric cargo]

if it's hyperbloom (running Yaoyao with Neuv), I'd probably run Raiden because of her range

[unkempt river]

hmm, good point

is yaoyao's dendro enough?

[lyric cargo]

you could do:

Neuv Furina Raiden Nahida
Alhaitham Yaoyao Fischl Beidou / Alhaitham Yelan Yaoyao Kuki

[lyric cargo]

not ideal for HB I think, thus me considering the swap here

[unkempt river]

swap to whom?

[digital sapphire]

Quick question, can I utilize Yunjin’s C6 for Clorinde’s Elemental Skill?

[lyric cargo]

on Beidou vs Layla, the former deals better damage. The latter offers freeze and a better shield

[unkempt river]

might need to do some testruns with both then, this is just taking waay too much time haha

[lyric cargo]

this @unkempt river

[lyric cargo]

I'd tend towards Beidou, if she's built

[digital sapphire]

I’m planning to utilize my Clorinde with Qiqi while adding Zhongli and another geo character for resonance

[unkempt river]

hmm aight, ty

[opal surge]

the skyward clorinde qiqi team is bad as is, but its much worse still without furina as 4th

[digital sapphire]

Is it worse if I insist using her sign instead of skyward?

[opal surge]

well whats the point of using qiqi with clorinde then (not that skyward was a great point to begin with)

[narrow folio]

As a battery obviously

[weary wasp]

does this like mean anything or is it just there? the like foggy area

[digital sapphire]

I see…

I wanna make a team comp of Clorinde, but Furina and Baizhu is already occupied with Nilou and Nahida right now, so I’m looking for alternatives for spiral abyss as my clorinde is super strong for some reason

[opal surge]

would recommend just playing aggravate

Clorinde fischl kazuha/sucrose dendro

[narrow folio]

Nahida preferably

[opal surge]

nahida has more value for niloubloom than for clorinde agg i th ink

[narrow folio]

Real news?

[opal surge]

I am nahidaless I wouldnt know but I think so yeah

[narrow folio]

I only ever play dendro on one side so my Nahida is always available

[zenith thicket]

erc isn't working??? like it just shows 100 no matter what

[opal surge]

set rotations between burst to 1

[north sequoia]

So DMC can replace this spot, I suppose..? Or is Collei better than DMC for this?

[opal surge]

any offfield dendro works

dmc/collei/kirara

[north sequoia]

Which includes Emilie, I believe

[opal surge]

Its likely that kirara will feel the most comfortable to play due to interruption resistance from her shield

It works,shes likely worse than all the 3other options

Since she doesnt do personal damage in quicken and has no buffs

[north sequoia]

I see

I'm going for Kirara then

Thank you very much for the advice

[opal surge]

[zenith thicket]

i was told xiangling really wants EM but i put her in optimizer for pyronado and they all gave her more attack? is something up or do i just not have enough decent EM artifacts

did vaporize too

[opal surge]

She wants both so

You may not have bennet burst active, or your attack artifacts are just of higher quality

[zenith thicket]

alr

when i do xingqiu should i give him vaporize as well or no?

[narrow folio]

No, that would be reverse vape

[opal surge]

forward

XQ's E's are often vaped in XQ XL teams fwiw

[narrow folio]

My bad, I always mix them

[narrow folio]

I don't play Xiangling alot

[opal surge]

well at least you can chose to vape them

[zenith thicket]

in raiden national there shouldnt be any vapes form XQ i think?

[opal surge]

not a rational player but looking at the rotation KQM has for it it wouldnt vape XQ e no

[narrow folio]

Rational in 2024

I remember when it was meta

[zenith thicket]

broke 😔 i've had this team since before the second GAA

[narrow folio]

That's two years

[zenith thicket]

only?

[narrow folio]

That's enough time to get more characters

[zenith thicket]

i got ayaka freeze 😋 but no shenhe or kokomi

[narrow folio]

So your only DPS are from a region that came out two years ago..

[glass pasture]

is emilie only good with pyro?

[zenith thicket]

yup

[narrow folio]

That's definitely something

[zenith thicket]

i mean i dont really like the sumeru dps and neuvillete was on kazuha banner

[glass pasture]

sad she doesn't work with bloom

[narrow folio]

I mean she's designed for burning...

That's her whole thing

[zenith thicket]

what makes her specifically good for burning

[glass pasture]

thats kinda weird ngl feels limited may have to skip

is she a sub dps ?

[narrow folio]

Nahida would just be better otherwise

[glass pasture]

ima assume they made her for pyro archon

[narrow folio]

Maybe

[narrow folio]

Does more damage to burning enemies iirc

[zenith thicket]

so like a passive?

[opal surge]

shes not good for burning

[zenith thicket]

?

[glass pasture]

[opal surge]

burning is good for her, since she deals no damage otherwise

but she doesnt transform burning in any way, its just a condition for her to be a character

[glass pasture]

so its a gimmick

[narrow folio]

And she does even less damage if you trigger spread or aggravate

[glass pasture]

shame cause i like her character design

[opal surge]

she does genuinely good damage

[narrow folio]

Her numbers are good

[opal surge]

shes just tied to teams that arent that great from what ive seen so far

[narrow folio]

Surely in Natlan

[glass pasture]

sounds like a good character to pull in her 2nd re-run then

until then!

[narrow folio]

Well probably her first rerun

Natlan is in twenty days

[glass pasture]

is her sig wep decent ?

[narrow folio]

On anyone but her and maybe Xiangling it's a stat stick

[zenith thicket]

haha which one guys

[glass pasture]

i see, guess its an all around skip then thanks

[zenith thicket]

does it matter which of the 3 pokemon i pick or is it the same for all of them?

[near prism]

what? no she doesnt

quickburn is very solid for her

[brittle cipher]

should i pull for shenhe or yelan?
(only pulling for shenhe for kaeya but i have yelan signature weapon)

[craggy dagger]

i have reutrned

rate my yelan just got her any tips

[narrow folio]

Must've missed that change, I remember in beta it was different

[narrow folio]

Shenhe hasn't run in like a year...

And she's made no sign of showing up

[brittle cipher]

trust ill wait 😣

[narrow folio]

Then get Yelan and wait

[brittle cipher]

okay 🕺

[sick quarry]

Should I keep my artifacts at 3 (the level, that is), or should I max them out?

[narrow folio]

Is there a reason you're keeping them at 3?

If a piece is good then you upgrade it

[sick quarry]

I’m keeping them at 3 because, what if I get the wrong Minor Affix (Substat)?

[narrow folio]

How will you know if you never level them?

[vital prism]

Is exploring good for getting primos? I'm trying to get yelan.

[sick quarry]

Knowing my luck with Artifacts (so far), I somehow end up with either DEF or DEF% most of the time.

[narrow folio]

It depends on how much you have to explore

[zenith thicket]

get them to at least 4, if the substats are good keep doing it, if it's bad then dont

whats ur AR

[narrow folio]

Welcome to the game

[vital prism]

I'd be mostly exploring sumeru and liyue

Are doing quests good for primos as well?

[zenith thicket]

obviously bro do everything yelan has 20 days thats a long time

[vital prism]

Then I will try my best

[narrow folio]

Most quests outside of archon quests don't give primos

And some world quests

[zenith thicket]

a lot of world quests give primos and u also get the chests

i really want c4 xiangling but idk if yelan is worth?
should i pull and risk it or just take the L

[narrow folio]

Man you really don't have a lot

Yelan is a good character but if you don't want her then don't pull

[zenith thicket]

i think she's alr but i feel like saving in case the natlan characters are rlly good,
i only got like 9 pity tho so idk probably wont pull?

i don't think she really fits into a team? apart from replacing XQ

OH NVM I GOT XINAGLING FIRST 10 PULL

#blessed fr

[narrow folio]

Congrats

[opal surge]

Clorinde quickburn low-key looking kinda good

[near prism]

yea it'd work

i think emilie is pretty good

she can consolidate a team's damage by herself

in that way she's pretty similar to chiori

[opal surge]

I think she's fine, skipping for now as I'm low on pulls going into natlan though

[narrow folio]

Just swipe

It's worth

[glass pasture]

i like her multi enemy capabilities

pretty satisfying

[zenith thicket]

are there any showcases for the natlan characters? like demos or smth

[narrow folio]

No

Outside of leaks

[zenith thicket]

when did the fontaine demos come out?

[narrow folio]

Just wait for the livestream

It's in like two weeks

[zenith thicket]

i forgot abt those low key

[sick quarry]

AR55.

[wraith flame]

is this bad, average or good, i pulled her today and didnt really farm artifacts before the banner 🙏

at the other hand she's 2-crowned already 😭

[glass pasture]

wow i just noticed bosses re-spawn instantly now lol

[narrow folio]

It's pretty bad

[glass pasture]

yeah that's not good. That's like terrible

[shadow lynx]

If this is a day one build it's hard to quantify because this isn't anywhere close to a final build

[hallow juniper]

💅

[neon harness]

Try to get crit to atleast 1:2 ratio

50:100, 60:120 should be pretty easily achievable considering yelans crit ascension

[worthy siren]

50/180 with 2k atk
or
70/160 with 1.8k atk ?

[forest venture]

what character

[worthy siren]

Amber

[sharp saddle]

which style, pyro charged shot?

[noble vale]

Hey I know some of you said I can pull who I like but should I pull for Yelan or skip? She can be used for double hydro right? I could pull her but i maybe want to save for someone like Zhongli or new character

[worthy siren]

rev vape charge shot

[noble vale]

Before I even pull 4 Yelan here’s who I have

[forest venture]

long answer: ||she can be used for double hydro, flexible, does good off field dmg, buffs your on field, and what not.
but again, depending on the motivational factor of who you're pulling for (meta, design, aesthetics, charm, etc.), it will affect your pull value. you don't have to worry much as natlan will have a hefty amount of primos to farm so you'll be able to pull both of them.||

short answer: great unit overall, but if you have someone else in mind just skip her. natlan will come so more primogems to you for pulling both ig

[sharp saddle]

whatever

reverse vape Amber is generally not that recommended, because the damage isn't all that great compared to forward melt

only Furina helps patching the difference a little

[noble vale]

Ok but what you pulling both? Yelan & Zhongli/someone else?

Ngl Nathan is around the corner and I would get more primogems to farm

[forest venture]

do you want my perspective on how i pull them or my personal experience as to how i get them?

[noble vale]

You can go your experience I guess

[worthy siren]

too much info ill run the 70/160

[sharp saddle]

lol

[forest venture]

• i got zhongli over ganyu in 2.4. i pulled him because he will be great in hypercarry for xiao before his best team exists and later tighnari and arle.
• i got yelan over lyney in 4.0 because i knew she will also be great in my account, more notably hydro-heavy hyperbloom, double vape arle, and mono hydro with furina.
  i seem to find both charms in them because i am familiar with their en VAs and they did their job well in different games i played

i did try to pull for lyney after yelan, but i got another diluc copy. so i saved that guarantee on furina

[noble vale]

Ngl those were great experiences and I think I might do the same in the future, also saving the guarantee to pull who you want after losing 50/50 is a great idea i remember I’ve tried to pull for cloud retainer and got Dehya then I saved it for Kazuha

[noble vale]

^

[forest venture]

at the end, it's all just preference. theorycrafters will always find strong uses in 4* units for "saving for X" players, but it gets harder as you want more usable units for theater and you probably only rely on standard banner to give you as much units as possible

[noble vale]

Ah gotcha

[neon harness]

I find zhongli more replaceable than yelan, you have Layla she works in most of the teams where they just need a shielder

If you wanted to see which characters you want too that are in the next patch, you can wait until livestream to decide wether or not to pull for yelan or save

[noble vale]

For the special program 5.0 yeah I’ll definitely watch and see the next patch banners and I’ll decide if one of the characters can be great for my account good idea to save if it’s something better

[heavy zealot]

Is bow on weapon banner good for Tartaglia?

I hate the skyward harp

[noble vale]

Anyway this is what i currently have including the pity I’m at

[forest venture]

usable and great, just get more atk to compensate

[heavy zealot]

Roger that ty

[noble vale]

Also about Ayaka’s weapon. I’m swapping from amenoma to Isshin since I have the weapon?

[jolly junco]

its not much better than skyward harp

[forest venture]

it works but i prefer the finale of the deep since it's better

[neon harness]

If you already have one leveled just use that one, its about equal anyways

[noble vale]

Oh ok is bc I got ER 166 on Ayaka lol

Well I know I have to keep farming to get better pieces

[noble vale]

Well it’s level 20 so I have to level it up

[neon harness]

Both are level 20?

[noble vale]

Amenoma level 90 R1 and Isshin level 20

I could R5 amenoma but i think I’ll hold off to it and use Isshin instead

[neon harness]

If it was my acc, id just use r1 amenoma because i dont want to bother leveling another weapon when the 1 weapon is only a tiny bit worse, that’s just me tho, if you want to min max, isshin it is

[vital prism]

so i have 4 catalysts, whihc would be better for a swirl heizou, tome of the eternal flow, sklyward atlas, widsith or sac frags? only one thats 90 is widsith but the others are 80

[sick quarry]

Can anyone suggest me dps team for spiral abyss I am on ar 41

[cedar flint]

well if you mean the permanent floors anything that is leveled up will work just make sure you have what you need to counter shields if needed

at ar 41 ppl don’t usually clear the floors that reset maybe floors 9-10

[surreal bramble]

How's Emilie so far?

[cedar flint]

burning

[surreal bramble]

oh*!*

[neon harness]

Send roster

[neon harness]

Sac frag

[surreal bramble]

I should just get Yelan right? 60 pity and guarantee, contemplating holding it or not lol

[jolly junco]

to be honest lots of your stronger character options do not care about yelan

furina and chiori would be good, also nahida if you care about alhaitham

[surreal bramble]

Yeeah, thinking of just waiting for Furina or Nahida.

[jolly junco]

best pull strength wise would be furina for your characters

[surreal bramble]

Wouldn't mind chiori, but my Itto hardly needs much more support in the first place tbh. prolly will just wait for one of those other two.

[pearl girder]

Is the new dendro unit good? Or can i wait for kinich swingman?

[rugged sparrow]

Kinich what

[atomic abyss]

How good is Emilie?

[amber pebble]

Should I get aqua?

[atomic abyss]

C1 first then aqua

But ye since it's her sig

[amber pebble]

Ohh

Alr thanks

[pearl girder]

i need investment help. am f2p and idk which is a priority

[lyric cargo]

for me, the question of what to get next - if you're aiming to get both - depends on how good this weapon banner is for you

[lyric cargo]

note that GenshinBuilds lists Skyward Harp below Slingshot: https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/

[rugged sparrow]

we dont even know what Kinich does to make a suggestion abt him

[pearl girder]

well i guess u cant say that here. idk what i expected

[lyric cargo]

ah:

Hunter's Path / Polar Star / Thundering Pulse / Skyward Harp: These weapons are stronger than Slingshot, however Yelan does not utilize them optimially. If you have another character that benefits from these weapons, it's recommended to prioritize these weapons on them, since these weapons are very small upgrades over Slingshot.

[rugged sparrow]

those weaps are literally just stat stick on Yelan anyway

Skyward has slightly more cv but

[amber pebble]

Ohh so should I use slingshot for more damage?

Thing is with skyward I can crit everytime

So i wanna gamble with that is what I wanna know

[lyric cargo]

you'd have to change more, I think Slingshot would overcap 100% crit rate with your current artifacts

so it's mostly a question of what lets you balance your crit ratio better

like OXD pointed out Skyward (64.2 cv) has slightly more crit value than Slingshot (62.4 cv)

I think the weapon ranking just meant that the high baseAtk is wasted on Yelan and it would see more effect on another char (Fischl?)

[near prism]

hunter's path gives some dmg%

same for polar

for some reason i read that as crit stick....

[rugged sparrow]

but yes she doesn't utilize HP/Polar passive

[near prism]

well maybe not polar but...you know...vapelan is on the table

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

800% of EM scaling

nvm im stupid its 900% i cant do basic multiplication

[amber pebble]

Tbh if I'm forced to use both fishl and yelan at the same time like in the abyss I'd use sac bow on yelan then , my doubt is what's best for my yelans DMG in the overworld I'm ready to change some of my arti

[opal surge]

dehya should be enough pyro to keep up emelies stuff in burning aggravate teams or?

[lyric cargo]

sac bow has high base atk low substat, unfortunately

lvl90 fav gives 61.3% ER
lvl90 sac 30.6% ER
so it's the opposite of what you want on Yelan, who scales with hp and ignores atk

[zealous night]

Where does emilie stand in the meta right now?
Arlenchinno nuevi level?
Raiden hutao level?
Or lower or higher?

[lyric cargo]

she's an off-fielder, so I don't know if you can compare her to those chars

[opal surge]

holy raiden sneak

[rugged sparrow]

is this talking about c0 performance too

[zealous night]

Shes not that bad is she?

[opal surge]

shes not hutao arle or neuvilette thats for sure

[rugged sparrow]

no but the comparison parameter is kinda vague

cuz you think Arle is top DPS when she's just alright at c0

[opal surge]

^this is also very true

[rugged sparrow]

but anyway Emilie is an off-field DPS with good damage capabilities

[zealous night]

Let’s assume c0 and compared to other offielders I guess

[rugged sparrow]

it's just her "restriction" kinda puts her in a weird spot

[opal surge]

she does i think the highest damage amongst all offfielders if the last calcs I saw were correct

she just doesnt play in good teams

[rugged sparrow]

one of the highest iirc ye

[zealous night]

So less team synergy but high personal damage

[rugged sparrow]

you can put it that way ye

she's good, as far as off-field DPS go

[zealous night]

With natlan coming I think I’m just gonna play it safe with my pulls

[amber pebble]

Ohh i thought I could use the passive effect of sac bow but yeah I do have r5 fav too

And i noticed my r3 stringless also does better damage than my current bow

[lyric cargo]

I've seen suggested by theorycrafters:

• Cyno, Thoma, Fischl
  they say Fischl's electro app is stronger than Thoma's electro which makes for good quicken uptime and less burning. While this hurts her in a way, the quicken also benefits her and she does get some burning
• Alhaitham, Thoma, Fischl
  only the primary target will have quicken aura
• Neuv, Xiangling, Zhongli
  her dendro app isn't as strong as Nahida's, but Xl on her own is already almost enough to let Neuv vape
• Wrio Xl Ben
• Arle Ben Kaz

I hope her good team options end up being many

if she's restricted to burning, I'm less optimistic about her

[feral reef]

Whats wrong with burning

[lyric cargo]

I just like teambuilding and versatility

[strange scarab]

from others' experiences that ive heard even in non burning teams shes still somewhat usable

her dendro app is still nice at least thats what they say

[elder bluff]

she don't have damage if it is not burning team. she will be an off field dendro applier

and her application is single target, so you can use 4* dendro to fill that role

[lyric cargo]

yeah, this

like, you can still use her like dendro traveler I guess. In multi wave content, where Nahida would need to keep coming on field to apply her skill

but it's somewhat wasting her potential if there's no burning at all

her weapon wants 2x burning per 8 seconds, her kit just wants as much uptime as possible I believe?

When nearby opponents are affected by Burning, they will give off Scents at intervals

[lyric cargo]

I heard her burst "is like Ganyu's, doing more hits when there are more enemies"

[opal surge]

It is, it has less uptime against unique enemies but does aoe

[lyric cargo]

During this time, 1 drop of Scented Dew will descend every 0.3 seconds, and 1 opponent can become the target every 0.7 seconds.

So it kinda maxes against two targets?

[elder bluff]

yep, sad that her burst does not last long

[lyric cargo]

oh dear, 2.8s duration

2.8 / 0.3 = 9 hits in multi target, 2.8 / 0.7 = 4 hits in single target?

[wet plank]

Average 3, 4 is optimistic

[gray oxide]

the latter part

does her burst adds each enemy to the pool of enemies that can be targeted, or targets 1 enemy and every time they die it selects another target?

[opal surge]

the first

[gray oxide]

i seege

neat ig

does she snapshot?

[opal surge]

she does not

[lyric cargo]

Bennett sadge

[gray oxide]

hmmmmge

the teams where youd run her is either some form of burgeon team or burnmelt?

theres that 1 Wrio burnmelt comp coined by Zajef

i heard shes pretty good there

[jolly junco]

she's good in burnmelt teams (not just wrio), I don't think burgeon though

bennett, xiangling, emilie, furina may be strong but it's not a burgeon team

you can also kinda just replace xiangling with her in monopyro teams

[gray oxide]

ic

ik theres 1 particular Wrio team

that dont run Benny

actually idk abt Wrio much but she seems great there

[jolly junco]

hmm, I think I know which team you're talking about and im not sure about that one

but she should be an upgrade over nahida for wrio burnmelt w/bennett

you lose the em buff but she does way more damage than nahida

[gray oxide]

its the Zajef one

with the weird name

that sounds French

[jolly junco]

[gray oxide]

thats all i remember

well tbf most of the culinary fancy smancy words r French so

idk which 1 it is anymore

whats this astral mark thingie?

is this the fav mark?

hmmmge ig it is, nvm

[opal surge]

I remember the name but not the team

Wasn't it bain-marie

[lyric cargo]

that sounds right

[amber raft]

how much er i need for c1 yelan

[lyric cargo]

it's going to depend on the team. the more particles the other members generate, the less ER

[amber raft]

uh lets say yoimiya yelan bennet zhongli

[vagrant kayak]

what characters can use harbinger of dawn
(ive got alhaitham and nilou and both their signatures)

[wind bolt]

Alfredo

[vagrant kayak]

i dont got that thing

[lyric cargo]

not sure if that's a typo or them messing with you.. there's Albedo

[ripe parrot]

is emelie good? on c0

[lyric cargo]

Nilou is all about bloom, a reaction that only scales with level and EM. She won't benefit from the crit starts HoD gives

HoD gives a low baseAtk but lots of crit stats. It's best on chars that scale with something other than Atk, and in situations where your hp stays at full or near-full.

Alhaitham's talents scale partly with EM. I think HoD is mostly used on him if there's a strong shielder on his team (Zhongli)

[vital prism]

is doing the tcg worth it? like does it give worth while rewards?

[pure epoch]

if u have fun with it then its worth it, or just do for the sake of bp, otherwise nope

[lyric cargo]

player level and achievements give pimogems, after that nothing in it does

I think it beats clicking through quests. If you want to just grind through it as fast as possible, I'm sure #🎴genius-invokation-tcg has decks to try

[ripe parrot]

will this team works for Emelie, Emelie, Hu Tao, Bennet and XL?

Hu Tao as main dps

[full sonnet]

Are the abyss reward increase permanent?

[ripe parrot]

you mean abyss and not theatre?

yes the rewards from abyss is incressed perm

[pure epoch]

does anyone know how do i open the door here?

[opal surge]

Hutao isnt good in monopyro

[brittle cipher]

opinions of the crit ratio/build? (will do talents/lvl up)

[opal surge]

its alright once shes leveled

[wary vessel]

does atk sands work on yelan?

[opal surge]

no

shes an HP scaler

[opal surge]

oh this has an atk sands I didnt even see

[wary vessel]

isnt that build missing out on some major dmg with that atk sands?

[opal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[wet plank]

You're kinda forced on er sands anw

[brittle cipher]

OH FR

[wet plank]

May even need to swap to fav if solo hydro

[brittle cipher]

that makes more sense ☠️☠️ ty

[opal surge]

I was only looking at the crit ratio in my defense

[wet plank]

Crit monkeh smh

[opal surge]

they asked for opinions on the crit ratio

[atomic abyss]

Is Emilie like a good pull or just someone that you'd like/would pull on if desired 4* is on banner

[wet plank]

She's a fine off field damage dealer

A bit limited in teams but damej makes up for it

[atomic abyss]

Will I have to farm the reverie set for her or is there like an alt?

[quaint fern]

I dont know if there are any calcs yet

[wet plank]

DW is fine if no other dw holders but for future proofing I'd just run ur

[quaint fern]

but deepwood should be competitive if no one else has it

[wet plank]

If there's ever a case where she runs a team which can fit in another dw holder you end up fucked if running dw

[quaint fern]

it's quite hard to get dendro res shred so you should probably just use DW if no one else has it

[atomic abyss]

Okok, assuming she won't need nahida since she already applies enough dendro right?

[wet plank]

Might as well not deal with it and just run ur on her to begin with

[wet plank]

UR ever so slightly better even if no res shred

[quaint fern]

I can't recommend farming reverie because FoHW is only usable on BoL characters

[wet plank]

They aren't usually run together yes

[quaint fern]

unless you have arle/clorinde, then go ahead and farm then

[atomic abyss]

I mean like I also need it for clorinde so technically I'm farming 2 characters

[quaint fern]

feel free to farm it then

[wet plank]

If someone else has dw it's like 30+% gap between ur and the next best thing

[atomic abyss]

Anyway what stats should I look for her?

[wet plank]

[quaint fern]

probably atk/dendro/crit

idk if she needs ER sands without a 2nd dendro tho

[wet plank]

You opt for burst every other rot on non er weaps

Er reqs too high anyways

[quaint fern]

has anyone calced fav burst every rot vs every other with her other 4* options?

[wet plank]

Worse than dm burst every other rot

[atomic abyss]

I'll probs be running either fav or catch on her since I'll always run her with xiangling

[quaint fern]

keep catch on XL

[wet plank]

Fav shouldn't necessitate er sands

[atomic abyss]

Noted, so atk sands then since I'll equip fav on her?

[wet plank]

Yeh

[atomic abyss]

Okok, complicated asf but I can make it work

[brittle cipher]

opinions now

[rugged sparrow]

can definitely be improved

ER is dead, not that many good amount of subs going either

[brittle cipher]

ik...😞

[rugged sparrow]

if u know then why ask

[brittle cipher]

trust

[gleaming pumice]

guys what weapons are good for nilouuu

4 stars

[quaint fern]

dockhand > iron sting > dull blade lvl 1

[gleaming pumice]

full blade 😭

dull

[wet plank]

It's honestly just dockhand no?

Rest don't help much

Wouldn't level an iron sting to 90 specifically for her

Better pray natlan craftables help

[gleaming pumice]

where can i get it

[wet plank]

Limited weap banner weap

If you're referring to dockhand

[gleaming pumice]

😭😭 oh

i don’t really have it rn

[quaint fern]

well if you nahida then go into nilou she'll get one "bunch" of bloom ownership so it's better than dull blade LMAO

[opal surge]

deepwood xiangling

[quaint fern]

but yeah, she doesn't really benefit much from it

[gleaming pumice]

then what do i give this girly now

[wet plank]

It's more of a oh I have this from the time I went pepega and leveled iron sting for kaz kind of weap

[quaint fern]

TRUE

[opal surge]

or for kuki

[quaint fern]

I still have my kazuha's iron sting

[wet plank]

Honestly the smartest choice rn would be waiting for natlan and see if we get better craftables

If not then you just cry in iron sting ig, or pull dockhand/key

[rugged sparrow]

surely they'll make a good craftable after Sapwood and Finale

[wet plank]

[rugged sparrow]

heck Amenoma is okayge too

[quaint fern]

seriously, how do we still not have a craftable 4* hp sword

[opal surge]

craftable xiphos in natlan

[rugged sparrow]

whoa calm down

[gleaming pumice]

😭😭

[quaint fern]

hoyo is gatekeeping the hp swords LMAO

[wet plank]

Niloo too op otherwise

Powercreep the BIG THREE

[quaint fern]

fav is better on the sword using shielders anyways

so it's literally just a nilou buff

[wet plank]

Nah I can't get enough cr on kirara

I ended up using box cutter

[opal surge]

give her the keyge she deserves

[wet plank]

Sponsor me another key, I only heb 1

[quaint fern]

smh 🍪 and 🪷 are using both of mine

[lyric cargo]

keep moving it around

[wet plank]

I run her and niloo tgt

How move

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's not possible then

also, i think I heard having multiple keys on one team doesn't work (?)

why do I like this Emilie team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW84TxZcbHI

I guess it has more frontload than I'm used to for Raiden teams

I highly suspect giving up c6 chev is not worth it, to add dendro, though

(I don't have her, but should probably compare it to that)

[royal chasm]

How do I get more primo gems fast for yelan?

[pure epoch]

achievements, events, explorations, quests, or even magic card

[royal chasm]

Ok thank you

[radiant stone]

Is raiden good with chev for overload team?

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[lyric cargo]

do you already have her? I feel like Clorinde is just overall better now as an on-fielder. But this is based solely on watching abyss runs and not very objective

[hot spoke]

Peng's at it again

[radiant stone]

Yea :<

[lyric cargo]

I'd get started on this quest series. You can only advance it one quest per day, but it gives 30 - 40 primos a day for very little time investment
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Exile:_Sprouting

[quaint fern]

is aranara quest even primogem efficient?

[lyric cargo]

I also found https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Gift_of_Amrita relatively rewarding.
600 primos total, as the final reward for playing through a series of quests and collecting the "plume of purifying light" items (use interactive map to explore the region)

[quaint fern]

ik it gives a lot but it's also minimum 12 hours to complete

[lyric cargo]

compared to exploration, probably not. Given how long it takes to click through dialogues

I remember you get a new quest relatively often, though 🤔

[quaint fern]

chenyu vale should be okay then right?

if you blitz through dialogue, maybe 3 hours?

[lyric cargo]

I think so

[quaint fern]

you get the offering system as well

[lyric cargo]

come to think of, I should see if I finished that
that was around the time I last quit

[nova swift]

I don't know about primogems I just did it for the story and lore

[lyric cargo]

I still hope they add better dialogue skipping, now that we have the dialogue recap feature

How much time do I need to spend on Furina, to make sure I stack Nilou's signature?

also, is there a way to tell when it's at 3 stacks?

[rugged sparrow]

there are 3 sigils showing up

pretty sure if you hit your initial E cast + use burst, it'll stack to 3 by the time you finish burst anim

I can test ig

[lyric cargo]

thanks
I'll try to look for it, I find it hard to notice things in the middle of combat

[lyric cargo]

I saw them, thanks
orbiting around my character

[rugged sparrow]

yeah EQ full stacks

kinda hard to see

[lyric cargo]

too bad Neuv + Furina teams are for the most part non-reaction teams

unless you're willing to run Xiangling, which it seems wouldn't feel great in terms of QoL

Xianyun Furina plunge teams benefit from key, aside from Xiao and Navia plunge

[violet mountain]

Does anyone know how this puzzle works 😿

[lyric cargo]

it's part of a quest, iirc. unofficial interactive map explained it

[violet mountain]

ah okay thank you

I’m avoiding the quests 😵‍💫

[zenith thicket]

remembered something was up with furina but i forgot what

[lyric cargo]

main things i see are talent levels and crit ratio

[zenith thicket]

More or less cr?

[lyric cargo]

she gets 16% crit rate from the weapon, so her ratio is 96 : 124

I'd try switching to a crit dmg circlet

as for talent levels, I believe Furina's skill and burst scale really well with talent levels

so I'd consider crowning, if you have the mora

her burst at max stacks goes from 69% dmg bonus at talent level 9 to 75% at TL 10

[lyric cargo]

wait.. they don't give primogems?

that's probably why I didn't finish the last two reward levels

[quaint fern]

I totally thought they did

Oops

[near prism]

smh thats 100k mora you're not getting

[barren sparrow]

What does "||Yelena||" - the Gadget - do?

I know I could just use it and find out but I don't want to lose it.

[near prism]

it just makes a pretty aura around your active char

you dont lose it by using it

[barren sparrow]

Pretty, you say? And it's reusable? I gotta try it now.

[near prism]

yea it has infinite uses

[barren sparrow]

...I can't even see any difference.

[near prism]

hm? it spawns like a cloud of blue bubbles around the character

for like 1-2 seconds

[barren sparrow]

Wait, that's it?

Only for a second?

[near prism]

yup, thats all it does

[barren sparrow]

You can't even use that for Kamera purposes!

[ripe parrot]

is it only Alerchino as needs the Alerchino boss?

[barren sparrow]

Lemme check...

[lyric cargo]

check the fandom:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Weekly_Boss
follow the link to the three boss mats

looks like Emilie needs one of them

[barren sparrow]

Fading Candle - Arlecchino
Silken Feather - Emilie
Denial and Judgment - Nobody yet

oh wait forgot to ping

[barren sparrow]

@ripe parrot

[merry edge]

help please, i already forgot what this is

[quaint fern]

there should be a dendro thing nearby, revive it with dendro and then you can stun it with electro once it's in range of the torch

[merry edge]

yeah... there should be

[quaint fern]

if you can't find it then you should probably just check interactive map

it might be hidden elsewhere

[merry edge]

-_-

[quaint fern]

where's the location? I can check for you

[merry edge]

i cant find it

[ripe parrot]

what I do here?

[merry edge]

press F to enter

[ripe parrot]

I know but I mean how to get the chest

[distant spire]

help

[brittle cipher]

which one is like better emelie or yelan? 🕺 (meta wise)

[distant spire]

is auto config cookin for bennet

[narrow folio]

Not even close but it looks like you're new so it doesn't really matter

[merry edge]

doesnt rly matter that much tbh

[brittle cipher]

u r below ar45 so artifacts doesnt matter, just play the game 🕺

[merry edge]

just use auto config until ar45

[quaint fern]

i'm just seeing this so idk man

[narrow folio]

I guess Yelan, although that's subjective

[brittle cipher]

i was assuming so 🕺 ty!

[merry edge]

yeah its unfortunatly not abt the chest

ill just look around some more

[distant spire]

i have tried the ar 40 ruin FOUR TIMES WITHOUT BEATING ITS FUCKING TIME TRIAL, I HAVE REBUILT ALL OF MY MAIN TEAM

I AM CRASHING OUT

[narrow folio]

Didn't they lower the difficulty on that one?

[merry edge]

skill issue

[narrow folio]

It used to be harder

[brittle cipher]

im creasing LMAO😭😭

[quaint fern]

well first of all you need to level these artifacts

[merry edge]

real

but whos the dps on the team

[quaint fern]

just go
energy recharge sands
hp goblet
hp or healing bonus circlet

[distant spire]

anemo mc

[quaint fern]

don't worry about set bonus

[quaint fern]

anemo mc is not a dps

[merry edge]

anemo mc 🙏 😭;

[quaint fern]

can you send your whole character roster to us?

[distant spire]

ight one sec

[merry edge]

just press C and there is a square at the bottom left

send us that screen

[quaint fern]

r5 fav vs r1 raises my average dps by like 4k

this is peak favonius rng

[narrow folio]

huge

[neon wave]

The golden triangle thing in the screenie you were sent will make the torch appear

If you interact with it and then go near the torch

[quaint fern]

OH THAT THING

man I already forgot about sumeru exploration

[merry edge]

tbh crazy good 4 stars

[narrow folio]

AMC, Bennett, Xingqiu, Xiangling

We love National core

[quaint fern]

you can probably play bennett xiangling xingqiu heizou

[neon wave]

Idk if it's quest locked or anything

[narrow folio]

Didn't even see Heizou down there

[quaint fern]

AMC over heizou might work for now just to decrease the amount you need to spend

[neon wave]

Map isn't saying much

[merry edge]

id say thats a good option yep

[quaint fern]

shouldn't be?

[narrow folio]

Well it's national so... yeah

[quaint fern]

national goes hard 🗣️

[distant spire]

i somehow got to sumeru's end with anemo mc ,cryo dude, water femboy, and bennet best boy

[narrow folio]

That's why I reccomended it

[merry edge]

(pull yelan)

water femboy best 4 star

[neon wave]

Probably not ye

[distant spire]

lost my 50/50 to daeya

[narrow folio]

[merry edge]

RIP

[merry edge]

MY EXCAT FACE

[quaint fern]

still better than qiqi I guess

but not by much

[merry edge]

pull more and make deyha yelan team

or maybe not

[distant spire]

broke

[merry edge]

you have a lot of days left

quest quick

yelan is a huge game changer early on

she was my first event 5 star and i have her c2 now

[distant spire]

10 pity

no pulls

[merry edge]

its in the next pull for sure 🙏

[quaint fern]

here's your main problem @distant spire

you need to ascend your characters

[merry edge]

if you really want to and have yelan, do a yanfei yelan team

[quaint fern]

you should be able to get ascension 4 by now

[merry edge]

you probably have some constellations for yanfei so far

[narrow folio]

ascension 4 with level 40 characters

[distant spire]

no

[quaint fern]

if you're in game right now can you do this @distant spire
@narrow folio they are already ar 35, they should have already ascended

[merry edge]

how many xiangling cons? C4 is huge for her

[quaint fern]

https://enka.network/u/673996595/

[merry edge]

WL 2?!?!?!?!?

NAHHH

this crazy

[quaint fern]

they're probably stuck behind ascension quest 2

[narrow folio]

it's cooked

[distant spire]

no im on ascension quest 3 i just like playing in easy mode

[merry edge]

😭

[narrow folio]

You're not gonna progress playing in "easy mode"

[merry edge]

you gotta learn how to abuse those elemental reactions

[quaint fern]

@distant spire you can just do this with the team we've given you
xingqiu skill, burst bennett burst, skill xiangling burst, skill then go into heizou and spam his NAs while using skill when his gauge is full

[merry edge]

skill = E
burst = Q

[quaint fern]

wait why are you trying to clear ascension quest 3 at ar 35?

[merry edge]

NA = normal attack

[quaint fern]

you shouldn't have that unlocked

[distant spire]

thanks i'll try it

[merry edge]

heizou - dps
xiangling - sub dps
bennett - dmg buff and heals
water femboy - sub dps, def utility, kinda heals but yeah idk

and by having 2 pyro units in your team, you will have 25% more ATK for every char

[narrow folio]

maybe they mistook it for the second one

[quaint fern]

didn't they just nerf the ascension domains a patch or two ago tho?

[merry edge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vTziye12FWySy6HaAZYwrK0h9AHOzmk3XyZN0WUdZjNUP1D1p8eYM-TNte8C8mRsk4Bhe3fQXZJ_cHU/pubhtml?pli=1

check this out, here you have some tips for low ar

[narrow folio]

they did

[quaint fern]

removed the electro hypostatis at the end didn't they?

[narrow folio]

everything early game got nerfed

domains and the acension quests

[quaint fern]

childe nerf

[merry edge]

domains 😇

[narrow folio]

back in my day we had to struggle against slowing waters and had 80 second cds

[quaint fern]

back in the day I used to laugh at people who didn't have ganyu for that domain

speaking of cryo, I should go crown wrio's burst

[merry edge]

wrio

[quaint fern]

300 more dps

[narrow folio]

I still don't have Ganyu

To be fair I did try to get her, lost to Keqing

And now it's been a year since her last run

[merry edge]

ganyu hella outdated

[quaint fern]

https://gcsim.app/sh/BWbcbLBhg9gP
https://gcsim.app/sh/QQ8rK6mhRG9D

nvm it's 100 more dps

[narrow folio]

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-chris-rock-oscars-academy-award-my-wife-gif-25234909

[merry edge]

worth

[merry edge]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-reaction-reaction-elite-dangerous-borann-boys-gif-25049405

[quaint fern]

unlike other genshin players I don't cheat on my significant other

we don't talk about my c4 ayaka

[narrow folio]

[lyric cargo]

def shred support

[quaint fern]

I swear i have enough to c6 her on rerun 😭

gatekeep
gaslight
ganyu

[narrow folio]

Surely you can get her C6 and Citali

Gotta get all the cryos

[distant spire]

bruh i cant attack the water bird in liyue

[quaint fern]

need carry? I can join

[narrow folio]

Helping out the younglings

[quaint fern]

I was about to get test wrio burnmelt in abyss but I can help

[distant spire]

im getting mad desperate so ok

what yo uid

is that u

my internet is kinda shit so expect lag

connection timed out

[quaint fern]

all g

you want to try restarting game? I can rejoin once you get in

once you get back in, ping me in #👥gimshim-coop we shouldn't really be doing this in this channel