📌gimshim-help

[near prism]

do we count each fav refine as 1 fav

[opal surge]

i have literally only 2 r1 favs and no copies

[near prism]

rough

[lyric cargo]

welp

[magic vine]

Nah, I'd win.

[lyric cargo]

I have a single r5 fav sword
with Fleuve, Sac, Xiphos, I didn't really see the need to keep two. Maybe that'll bite me one day

[near prism]

so i see hsr is still trying their best to make their storytelling even worse

[umbral sedge]

[near prism]

it still has plenty of uses, but significantly less than fav lance

polearm users so starved for actual support polearms that unless you're a dps you use fav

and if you're a dps on the account of a f2p player that doesnt pull on the weap banner, you still use fav

literally the best weapon in the game if we consider the amount of users it has

[magic vine]

For Nilou, what's the best 4-star weapon (except battle pass) for her? My Asia Server account had her on Dockhand's Assistant (whatever that called, nicknamed the AoT sword), but I'm also aiming for Xiphos if I don't have her key sword.

I had her key on America Server so I have no issues on that account. But my main (Asia) was still waiting for luck.

[lyric cargo]

this is what I have right now
lock = planning to level before 5.0
the only polearm support I use is Raiden, though

[near prism]

dockhand is her best 4* weapon

[magic vine]

So I just wanted the Xiphos so Kazuha may have it if I'm lucky.

[keen willow]

I got xiphos first try you can get it too

[plain nimbus]

should i spin for what i like or what i need

[magic vine]

My poor single Iron Sting was being shared by multiple characters, but I currently slapped it on Kazuha. I need the Xiphos.

[near prism]

a 2nd fav sword would already help your jean

[keen willow]

Where are you spinning

[opal surge]

You dont need anything, spin for what you like

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I don't use her a lot
but sac sword = more field time and less team energy
fav would be better

[plain nimbus]

right now nothing

[keen willow]

You need hutao

[plain nimbus]

but i would like a venti or an ayaka

[plain nimbus]

no

[keen willow]

Sadge

[lyric cargo]

I'd likely move Sac to Xq and Fav to Jean if I use her and feel like bothering to do it

[keen willow]

Man emily's trailer was meh i dont want her anymore

[near prism]

well unless hoyo decides to not do it she's likely getting a 2nd video about her? maybe? either way i liked her trailer

[keen willow]

This was the character demo

[opal surge]

She should get a 2d trailer right

But the order would be reversed

[near prism]

i would think so yea, but usually the teaser comes before the demo

[keen willow]

Maybe we like her gameplay idk

[near prism]

i really like her design but im broke and i wanna save for chiori cons so its a skip from me unfortunately

[keen willow]

Who's the second 5 star

[forest venture]

who second 5 star

5.0?

[keen willow]

No this patch

[plain nimbus]

what 5 stars are in the next banners

[fair urchin]

Yelan

[keen willow]

Yay yelan.. gonna pull simulacra

[dire kestrel]

I won't bull in the patch before 5.0

[amber raft]

dehya vs yoimiya who is better is dehya worse than yoimiya

[jolly junco]

dehya is worse at dealing damage but has supportive capabilities which yoimiya does not, and unlike yoimiya she is not single target locked

[amber raft]

what supportive capabilities

[jolly junco]

damage mitigation and interrupt resistance

[near prism]

totm too

[jolly junco]

it's better to use dehya as a support if you dont have constellations on her

[lean vault]

Is anyone able to help in getting 5 star vermillion artifacts?

[jolly junco]

zyox

[lean vault]

My user ID is 758310499
Europe server

[opal surge]

#👥gimshim-coop if you need ingame help

[lean vault]

Kk

[opal surge]

would recommend going to maincord instead though, its a lot more active

#759661088022986762

[raw siren]

i need help completing act 6 of the theater on normal difficulty, I wanna know which characters i should use

[strange scarab]

arle kazuha bennett xiangling

[glad slate]

how to use interactive map? ive been seeing it on tiktok but i dunno what does it do or how do i get it

[umbral sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-need-google-google-gif-16220073

[strange scarab]

reel or faek

[umbral sedge]

faek>>>

[lyric cargo]

They're about to hit ar45, any suggestions on what to farm?
I suggested they use Navia, Ben, Xl, Geo MC for now

I don't like how Navia's set is from a domain that doesn't seem resin efficient (shared with Song of Days Past)

but maybe it's the way to go

they could strongbox emblem for Xl + Xq, try to get Bennett 4pc noblesse
geo MC, not sure. the build guide says 2pc 2pc 😒

[mental storm]

How do i get to this chest?

[lyric cargo]

best way I know is to google "genshin impact interactive map"
the unofficial one has a bunch of helpful comments

but I don't remember them all, sorry :[

[mental storm]

Ohh good idea thanks

[lyric cargo]

it might've been the one where you have to jump out of the water with a fontaine character

[lyric cargo]

maybe they could go Song of Days Past Bennett and Noblesse Geo MC
since instructor Bennett won't be helpful in an all-geo team

[opal surge]

they could farm MH/GT and use 4p GT or 2p GT2p Atk onn navia

[mental storm]

Wow that actually worked thanks
I didn't know they could jump like that

[opal surge]

but i mean they have no MH user so thats kinda sus too

[lyric cargo]

hmm, yeah I mentioned that to them
they currently don't have a char that can use it, but are planning to get Furina at some point

she just ran though, I think

[opal surge]

she did indeed

[lyric cargo]

iirc GT is ~10% worse than Navia's BiS?

[near prism]

around there yea

[lyric cargo]

I'll probably recommend getting Neuvilette, if they like him
so that'd be a MH user, in addition to whoever they use with Furina who can also use MH

[worthy siren]

So when im do this team, does furina get fanfare stacks from healing one person or rotate between characters.. ?

[opal surge]

you are supposed to swap after the first n3d on navia to zl for one bennet tick + favge to be optimal yes

dropping one n2 for fanfare and energy in theory

its kind of a pain and I personally dont do it

[lyric cargo]

she gets a stack for each 1% one of your char's hp changes
so healing a single char generates stacks as well, but to get a good amount you'd have to switch around and heal everyone

the only teamwide healer I'm aware of that goes on Navia teams is Xianyun

(so far, they'll make more chars I'm sure)

[worthy siren]

Well my norm xiangling/bennet max dps with navia is 250k, but with Navia gives me a whopping 450k in abyss if rotations is right so this is fine for me

Though it is a little confusing rotation

[opal surge]

I remember I was doubted here when I first started talking about navia xianyun

[worthy siren]

I alreay concluded to myself that you're prob my uncle so now i just naturally read all your comments in his voice

[lyric cargo]

was your uncle also doubted when they speculated about Navia Xianyun?

[worthy siren]

I speculate if he is sane first

[lyric cargo]

good news for your uncle's sanity
some synergy exists:

40 dmg% for 4s after each skill use

I think it mostly seems like good QoL, having a teamwide healer with Furina

[opal surge]

its also more damage then bennet

(in single target)

[lyric cargo]

oh, wow

I did not expect that

[opal surge]

Xianyun my goat

[lyric cargo]

that's a part of me that's saying I can go for Xiphos + Key weapon banner
and get Navia at some point, if I get Verdict

but I know that part is wrong. Xiphos + Key is literally every time Key reruns

I can do better than Verdict as the second 5-star if I'm patient

[near prism]

its because getting 4 plunges per E is incredibly difficult

its still a good team but getting 4 plunges per E is not reliable

[opal surge]

its not that hard imo, but i have incredibly low ping which is definitely creating a bias for me

[near prism]

i would appreciate seeing a video of that honestly

[lyric cargo]

now I want to try it

[near prism]

4 plunges per E is fairly unreliable in my case even with 20-30 ping

[jolly junco]

same

sensi might be better than us though

[near prism]

true

ill go give it a try again ig

[opal surge]

i can try to record one after my DU run

[near prism]

🚮 hsr

[opal surge]

Maybe I'm mistaken too and I just dont notice it often when I fail the 4th plujnge

[near prism]

4th plunge is phys

i can hit the 4th geo

but only if one of them is a low plunge

[worthy siren]

Im sure Xianyun just makes anyone able to do plunging attack comps

I already seen navia, noelle, diluc, Hutao--

[opal surge]

Maybe I'm missing high plunges then, Ill double check after

DU6 though so itll be a while

[near prism]

i know 4 high is possible

but its really unreliable for me at least

[opal surge]

Its not impossible that im just missing high plunges and not noticing, id rather go double check than state otherwise

[near prism]

fair enough

@jolly junco ok i checked and 3 high 1 low is like, 1k less dps? ish?

3 high and nothing else is about 4k lower

[opal surge]

@near prism nvm I was wrong, I cannot do it consistently at all when I pay attention, I must have just not noticed when I was playing it before

thats on me

[near prism]

is ok we all get stuff wrong sometimes

its still a good team tho

[opal surge]

I have a 12 ping for reference, but doesnt seem like it makes a diff so

[jolly junco]

this is more realistic

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[jolly junco]

i tried 4 lp and its still hard

[near prism]

yea thats why i checked for both

altho

[jolly junco]

i know one person who can do it somewhat consistently

[near prism]

if you run into cd issues you might as well do a 4th phys plunge

xianyun anyways puts you on a 20s timer

[near prism]

hmmm

is there any shot doing a NA before the E allows you to do 4 plunges

[jolly junco]

no

[near prism]

there's no logical reason for it to do so but maybe hitlag can come in clutch

[jolly junco]

that will not work

[near prism]

i am aware copium

[zenith thicket]

in what situations are you supposed to use fragile resin? i remember someone said not to use it for artifacts?

and, would it be worth using it for the mora leylines

[umbral sedge]

You use it when you need resin

[opal surge]

just use it for anything

[umbral sedge]

[zenith thicket]

k

[umbral sedge]

[zenith thicket]

are there any resin friendly ways

to get mora

[opal surge]

You can run around and pick up moraboxes

they give 10-20k mora each

[umbral sedge]

You can do routes like ugc

Resinless behavior though

[zenith thicket]

whats a ugc

[neon harness]

Did you do the weekly requests and bounties yet

[umbral sedge]

Chasm underground

[zenith thicket]

no

[umbral sedge]

Avg run takes like 8 minutes, 10k mora

[zenith thicket]

😔 i need like 240k mora

[umbral sedge]

🫵🐳

[neon harness]

teapot sells mora if you are desperate enough

[zenith thicket]

i've been buying teapot mora actually 😭 but i need the books more

[severe valley]

guys how do i get in here?

[quaint fern]

Talk to the NPC on top

[primal latch]

Whos the next banner?

[chrome maple]

Emilie - Yelan

[primal latch]

Ohhh.. Thanks.. I guess no wishes this version

[lofty canopy]

whats the best farimg metod for priomgems
bad redpanda/ uid 676740205 — Today at 5:06 PM
and i need help

[forest venture]

you farm quests, events, chests, explore more

[lofty canopy]

i cant slove this quest

[forest venture]

i believe this will guide you well https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Orobashi's_Legacy:_Part_III

[vagrant kayak]

iz neuvis charged atk dmg meant to decrease as hes using it

[strange scarab]

i mean the hydro dmg bonus do get reduced when he has less hp isnt it

his a4

[umbral sedge]

[umbral sedge]

[neon harness]

Svs

[severe valley]

theres no npc

[normal crater]

What is a nilou team?

[quaint fern]

locked behind a world quest I think, head over to the lighthouse and talk to the guy there, that should be the right quest

[quaint fern]

is wawa c4?

[normal crater]

Whats wawa

[quaint fern]

kirara

[normal crater]

No

[quaint fern]

you can go nahida nilou collei/kirara barbara/neuvi then

[normal crater]

What do you think works best

[strange scarab]

just go nahida nilou barbara yaoyao ez

tf raiden doing there

[normal crater]

Lul

[quaint fern]

oh I didn't see yao^2

yeah personally I like yaoyao for comfort

[normal crater]

Whats the rotation?

[strange scarab]

nilou e e e e

[normal crater]

😭

[normal crater]

What are the sets for each character

[quaint fern]

smh e n2 e

[strange scarab]

easy

[severe valley]

ah ok tysm

[quaint fern]

BLUB

[neon harness]

[meager timber]

how much of a difference does archaic petra make on zhongli? how much better is it compared to tenacity?

[umbral sedge]

Depends™️
huge difference in neuv teams because totm does nothing for him

ap is justbetter tbh

[cedar flint]

didn’t even know ppl considered using it

[neon harness]

I considered and didn’t want to bother with Petra lol

[umbral sedge]

[glad slate]

ive been trying this one lumenspar and i couldnt find it, ive already use the reffrence on location but couldnt find it at all

[neon harness]

Shelf

[umbral sedge]

📘

[strange scarab]

i have 1 (one) good petra piece for my zhongli

[strange scarab]

maybe this

[umbral sedge]

screm1

[neon harness]

Nowaying

[strange scarab]

Stony Balls

[neon harness]

🪨

[umbral sedge]

[glad slate]

bro....

thank you so much, im actually so grateful for this

i was boutta go insane, i hope your day will go so well, thank you so much broski

[umbral sedge]

guoballs mvp

[glad slate]

may your day be blessed with luck

[whole wedge]

How many keys of echoes do you get each season, I finished the theater today, I have 3 right now

[neon wave]

2 were given + 1 per season

So you can have 4 max as of now

Oh it's not out for NA yet, so if you're on NA max 3 as of now

[whole wedge]

Yeah NA here, ty

[strong shale]

Oh I remember doing this, it's such a troll by hoyo lol

[lyric cargo]

if you google "genshin impact interactive map"
that's where most of the people helping here would check

the unofficial version has many comments trying to explain

[latent narwhal]

How do I get this whatever I cant find it on interactive map

[amber raft]

why are there no dendro 4 star in emilies banner

nvm

[sacred bridge]

which of these two?

[ripe parrot]

Has the New banners already started?

[cedar flint]

no

[ripe parrot]

Will This team work. Nahida, YaoYao Mona, Nilou?

[neon harness]

Check with optimizer, if we are just looking at crit it would be the 2nd build but with the diff in atk idk

[neon harness]

No, remove Mona for kokomi or barb

[ripe parrot]

2 healers?

[neon harness]

Yes, Barbara will be going triple em with em weapon so she won’t heal as much, she would be the one onfield the most in this team to let her activate more blooms

[forest venture]

👋

[cedar flint]

kirara bloom is the only way I know

[strange scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1262265664895451186.png

[lean tree]

73/273 navia. too much? 😭

[lyric cargo]

You'd gain damage (on average) by trading crit dmg stats for the same amount of crit rate

unless there are crit rate buffs I'm not aware of, like Xianyun

[strange scarab]

yeag trade 20 cdmg for 20 crit rate

[lyric cargo]

basically, just don't overcap 100%

well, 20% cd would trade for 10% cr

I meant trading the same number of substats, or cd for cr circlet, etc

[opal surge]

pull verdict instead of using redhorn

[lyric cargo]

tbh, if you want Verdict this is probably a pretty good banner

though the 4-star weapons other than Xiphos aren't great

last Xiphos banner was almost ridiculously good by comparison

Xiphos, Fav, DB, Sac, Stringless

[opal surge]

tbf I dont know how much value dbane realistically adds to a banner

it feels like that weapon is the most common weapon to be on banner period

[lean tree]

27 pity, 10 primogems, 4 days not looking too good

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[opal surge]

oh its also currently on banner I didnt even see that lmao

[lyric cargo]

plus, this banner has it as well
it's almost the only redeeming part, Bell / Eye / Rust are kinda the worst ^^

[strange scarab]

yelan thespian trick yay

[silk mango]

Which one is better for alhaitham? Currently I have 115 ER 65 crit rate and 116 crit dmg

[onyx yew]

is this good (imagine kokomi as yelan)

[opal surge]

no

playing lyney and arle at the same time is kinda rough with both of them being kinda tied to bennet

it will probably clear but its not great

[vagrant kayak]

itd be fine if arlecchino was on a overload team i think but just wait for mavuika

[strange scarab]

tf does she even do

[lyric cargo]

surely, pyro archon can replace bennett on one team

[opal surge]

Watch Pyro archon just be 5* Pyro vape onfielder #6

[lyric cargo]

Hutao, Arle, Pyro Archon
The community needs you to find the difference between these pictures

[quaint fern]

Somehow the majority of weapon banners that I've pulled on have been DB instead of fav 😔

I have like r15 DB at this point, it has negative value for me in a banner LMAO

[glad slate]

oh really? thank you for telling me this, appreciate thsi alot!

[cedar flint]

even the official hoyolab app has a interactive map

[sly lava]

is it good even tho its ember?

[cedar flint]

well ye it’s a good feather

[lyric cargo]

yeah, the only thing is it only allows for a single comment for each item (last I checked)
so if that isn't enough, it's better to have multiple comments via the unofficial map

[lyric cargo]

it's especially useful if you need to adjust your crit ratio
the def% and flat def stats aren't useful for Amber of course, but that's fine if you don't have one with even more useful substats

[primal latch]

Whats the point of the star in imaginarium theater?

[keen willow]

They're like abyss stars. Each star gets you more rewards

[forest venture]

[plain nimbus]

is there anything i can do...

[hollow roost]

no? they are useful only for flexing

u get the same rewards if you pass the theater with or without stars

[keen willow]

? Do we get the rewards if we don't get the stars?

Hmmm lame

[opal surge]

you can 0 star theater for full rewards yes

[keen willow]

So it really is just for flex

[forest venture]

no i don't wanna remember doing the theater reset just for that last diluc cons

[plain nimbus]

is raiden national meta

[keen willow]

It was

[plain nimbus]

damn

meta moves on fast

[amber raft]

what does the term circle impact mean

[forest venture]

characters that buff units/deal dmg to an enemy in a circle that never moves at all

[amber raft]

ah okay

[wind bolt]

Navia bwst team?

[wind bolt]

Gorou piece fr

[feral reef]

Guys should i build itto or noelle

[keen willow]

Whoever you like more

[opal surge]

Furina/xiangling chiori xianyun/bennet

[high fog]

Itto more damage but both needs a geo team

[wind bolt]

Fk man dont have chiori or xianyun

[quaint fern]

you can run furina ben 2nd geo

[opal surge]

Bennet is good

Zhongli albedo or GMC are fine as chiori replacements

[quaint fern]

you can also just swap furina for any other off field dps like fischl etc. their main purpose is to allow you to create crystalize on top of their personal dmg

[umbral sedge]

Ningguang is fine too.

[quaint fern]

maybe I should try this burnmelt team https://gcsim.app/sh/zbrzLfPgpqFP

i need to actually level thoma's instructor so he doesn't have 14k hp now

[dusty cape]

[wind bolt]

C1 gorou?

[quaint fern]

not gorou

[wind bolt]

Shit

Her yunjin and zl are my only

[quaint fern]

go zl then? or you can go geo mc

[plain nimbus]

is there a way to get more billets

its been like 3 weeks of doing those weekly bosses but no billets

[wind bolt]

Not really

Log off for 2 weeks get the return event ez billit

[plain nimbus]

is that so

tou get the return event for just 2 weeks off?

[wind bolt]

https://game8.co/games/Genshin-Impact/archives/315013

[plain nimbus]

so i need 10 weeks off for an r5 billet weapon

thats tough

[quaint fern]

just rng, you gotta keep doing them

[cedar flint]

I was wondering for kirara bloom do I go full em or can I go like hp em em weapon em and nahida

[opal surge]

kirara just goes HP

she shouldnt have bloom ownership

[merry edge]

would you guys say its a good idea to switch my C1 raiden with C6 Fischl?

[opal surge]

Yes

[umbral sedge]

single target, sure
c2 where

[merry edge]

i got the c1 on the same pull

"unlucky" i guess

[umbral sedge]

🐳

team itself is already sgt asf so why not

[merry edge]

C2 Yelan Skyward Harp
Furina Fav sword
C3 Jean Amenoma

what weapon would you recomment for fischl?

i dont have other 5 stars unfortunatly

but R4 Stringless

[umbral sedge]

harp yelan 😔

[merry edge]

she has enough ER

[umbral sedge]

slingshot higher cv for low er team

[merry edge]

aint no way slingshot better than skyward harp

[umbral sedge]

sos

[merry edge]

wdym sos

[umbral sedge]

song of stillness

[umbral sedge]

harp high base atk does nothing for yelan but use whichever ig

team is non-aggravatege

[opal surge]

I mean I guess you would onfield yelan

[merry edge]

yes onfield yelan

thats the point

[opal surge]

Not that the attack Rly matters still

[merry edge]

i wouldnt mind switching it out

[umbral sedge]

[merry edge]

idk if this helps

[umbral sedge]

Not really, Yelan Furina Jean core is already strong

[merry edge]

and these are my weapons

[opal surge]

You could just play xingqiu and do mono hydro

[quaint fern]

or put in rosaria or smth

[umbral sedge]

4th slot in that team can just be anyone

[umbral sedge]

Give Sara/Fischl harp and Yelan slingshot

[merry edge]

i dont use sara lol

they just have some weapon equiped

i just want a onfield yelan team man

cant decide what to do

[umbral sedge]

~~C6 her first ~~

[merry edge]

._.

[umbral sedge]

she can on field in your current team tbf, slingshot, harp doesn't rly matter
team still clears because mono hydro is strong

[merry edge]

cant wait to level up slingshot

[forest venture]

xq furina yelan koko-
aw no kok

[merry edge]

no kok

[forest venture]

jean still fine

[merry edge]

isnt her C2 the whole point of using her? and the heals ofc

[forest venture]

who's c2

[merry edge]

jean

btw should i use skyward harp on fischl or stay at stringless?

[forest venture]

harp

[merry edge]

👍

[cedar flint]

she would be the on field and I want to bump into others in cat mode

[sick quarry]

My xiao right now,is on 4PC vermillion,%42 crit rate,%150 crit damage and 2000 attack
he is running lithic spear r1 (so 2 stacks only;%6 extra cr and %14 extra attack)

he is constellation 1 and 6/6/6 talents

i run him with bennett,zhongli,and faruzan

im not saying he is a very good one,but is my xiao built enough? i really dont have a lot of resin 😭

[forest venture]

level 10 normals, dont use faruzan unless she's c6 (lynette and sucrose are other alternatives), and your crit ratio is unbalanced (at least make your crit equal to 1:2)

[sick quarry]

im ar 50... 😭

[forest venture]

and you unlocked everything: crowns, max domain levels, and stuff. you just need effort

[sick quarry]

i really dont think i can minmax in this account,i just wanted to know if its good enough for wl7 and floor 9-10

[forest venture]

yes maybe if you can balance your crit

[sick quarry]

i put white tassel on and now its 1600 atk,%61 cr and %150 cd

i feel like its better,i never crit before

i run him with bennett so i can cover for the atk

[forest venture]

uh that's worse

[sick quarry]

😔 damn

[forest venture]

you can crit but you're low on atk

oh yes you have benny but i'd just farm for better artifacts since lithic is stronger

do 2pc 2pc atk/anemo

[neon harness]

Not enough
get his talents close to 8+/whatever you want/8+ first, guarenteed upgrades> artifact farming
Get more crit rate

[opal surge]

you need to maintain a hydro aura in order to have kirara have bloom ownership

with nahida and onfield kirara thats not happening

[cedar flint]

so nilou and kok is not enough

well theoretically speaking I could still reach 700 em on kirara with triple hp

em weapon + nahida and dendro resonance is already over 400 em just need em substats

[quaint fern]

You can try solo dendro but that's just griefing

[cedar flint]

well I should be able to get high em on kirara even with triple hp

[quaint fern]

She shouldn't have significant bloom ownership so it probably doesn't matter

[cedar flint]

only would’ve mattered if I had xhipos

but I don’t see why not either way not like I really need other substats

[opal surge]

let aside significant bloom ownership I think she will have no bloom ownership at all

[cedar flint]

and this way I can pretend she is the bloomer

well I will try to get 700 em with triple Hp anyways

[opal surge]

sure

[cedar flint]

it shouldn’t be hard anyways

[solemn junco]

how do i do this puzzle it doesnt unlock

[cedar flint]

did you click on the device to do the little timing challenge?

I also can check if she creates any bloom at all by removing nahida artifacts

[solemn junco]

got it

[fair urchin]

Guys my frnd has made a mess of his acc pls suggest a good team or two for abyss

[random ether]

I was typing a wall of text until I realized on top of image there's raiden and furina

He has so many options. Neuv is op by himself, put in sucrose for grouping and VV shred, add in furina and it's one broken team right there
2nd team, so many options. Raiden with bennett, xl, xq, sara, chev, even just dendro aggravate works
I'd go with but that's my preference.

[fair urchin]

Neuv sucrose furina and?

Raiden benne xq xiangling

👍?

[umbral sedge]

Last slot shielder because Neuv is C0

play raiden national 1st half and neuv 2nd half for floor 12

[fair urchin]

Okk

[fair urchin]

Diona or kirara??

[umbral sedge]

kirara

[fair urchin]

In my opinion
both diona and kirara shield are mid for neuvi
but freeze helps preventing non boss enemies from attacking
healing also helps building fanfare stack

[fair urchin]

?

[umbral sedge]

both are fine

kirara shield is stronger

neuv can max fanfare by him

[fair urchin]

Okii

[violet cipher]

how do I do this?

[rugged sparrow]

that's his ultimate move, just break his shield when he's doing that I believe

it's just 20 flowers anyway, can just ignore it

[limber light]

what battle pass weapon should I get? I already have Serpent spine, solar pearl, Deathmatch and the black sword

[forest venture]

what character you use ???

[pure epoch]

im stucked at c1 nilou atm... shud i go for c2 nilou? the thing is im also saving for kinich c0r1
77 pity atm with 86 pulls

isit still possible to save for kinich c0r1 if i pulled c2 nilou?

[primal cypress]

should i replace DMC with Alhaitham and who needs EM in this team :o?

[meager lintel]

am i tripping or does spiral abyss only reset once per month now?

[opal surge]

Probably not, at least not if you are looking to garantuee the r1

[opal surge]

No, kokomi and nilou want em

[opal surge]

It does indeed

[primal cypress]

dmc doesnt?

[meager lintel]

what was the point of that change? imaginarium theatre i guess but was it so difficult to do it twice a month still?

[neon harness]

Hydro, ideally kokomi, should have most of the bloom ownership, not dendro

[opal surge]

It just rotates with IT now

[meager lintel]

interesting..

i got on looking forward to doing my spiral abyss only to not be able to do it 😭

[opal surge]

You're maintaining a dendro aura and triggering blooms with hydro, mainly with kokomi

[opal surge]

You would just have cleared the same abyss again, you can still do it just won't get rewards

[meager lintel]

yeah i more so meant for the rewards, it was nice having a free primogem bundle every 2 weeks

oh well i guess

[lyric cargo]

how is r5 Rust on normal attack Sethos? 80 dmg% should be good?

[gray oxide]

his enhanced "normal" attack counts as charged attack dmg

so sadly rust passive is useless

detrimental rather

@lyric cargo

dusk bolt is the edgy name they gave to his enhanced NA

[rugged sparrow]

wonder why Amos isn't mentioned

[gray oxide]

prolly coz its worse than Stringless

slingshot* mb

anw wazzup tavern, its ya boi

[noble vale]

I am back in genshin from 2 months break and i have to start where i left off. I have those characters lying around so should i start building them? I’ve got nothing else

[gray oxide]

im back 4 blood

[rugged sparrow]

back 4 blood mentioned 🗣️ rraaaah what is a good game with competent devs

[gray oxide]

who doesnt nerf spin2win :kappa:

anw i am motivated to reinstall to witness the great Nilou war

[rugged sparrow]

(im referencing to an actual game called Back 4 Blood)

[gray oxide]

in China

and i am severely disappointed

since i cant see anything suggestive of the thing

[lyric cargo]

so it remains a weapon almost exclusive to Yoimiya

[gray oxide]

yet it still happened

[gray oxide]

and still the coolest and most useless Childe drip

my Xiao looks severely dehydrated

wait wrong sand

[rugged sparrow]

atk gob modcheck

[gray oxide]

:kappa:

i have a 40 CV ATK% VH gob

dk what to feel

that is fine tho

[opal surge]

I would actually only miss 180 primos by just doing normal instead right

[rugged sparrow]

level 4 more

[lyric cargo]

Homa, nice
wonder if they'll ever make another crit dmg spear

[opal surge]

Every resin I spend on a bossdrop could be the 50cv whimsy goblet im looking for

[gray oxide]

oh ye

how do yall like my Nilou bloom Neuvillette

[rugged sparrow]

pass me some of that hopium

[gray oxide]

i spent a paradillion years getting this shit

[lyric cargo]

rip
I had just enough, accounting for the friend-invite char (a random Xl)

[noble vale]

Hi Sensi it’s been a while. Anyway i know i was told to get Yoimiya or Yelan before so do i have to pull for them whenever the rerun happen? I was thinking i should pull Zhongli cuz why not he’s the goat and good geo character

[lyric cargo]

getting a second skill use sounds useful, I'm jealous of that part

[opal surge]

pull for who you like

yoimiya is super skipable yelan is good but not a must have

[noble vale]

R.I.P. Yoimiya

I could pull for Navia cuz she’s Genshin’s Taylor Swift lmao

[gray oxide]

just brainwash ppl into pulling Yoi

[noble vale]

Aight I’ll pull whoever I like 👍

[cedar flint]

L take

[noble vale]

Nah I’ll skip

[cedar flint]

I don’t like when ppl compare the perfection Navia to Taylor

[noble vale]

I mean look at her she’s pretty much like her and ngl I do like the character she’s great but not playable wise

[cedar flint]

just cus she is blonde doesn’t immediately turn her into some rich singer

[noble vale]

Lol I know that

True she ain’t a singer

[fallow yoke]

when will the theater be resetted

[rugged sparrow]

next month

[fallow yoke]

WHAT

but

i thought

this is not good

[rugged sparrow]

?

[noble vale]

Should i replace my Hu Tao team to Raiden team?

[jolly junco]

he's primarily EM scaling, not to mention he's used in aggravate which further benefits from EM while ATK doesn't affect the flat damage bonus from aggravate

[rugged sparrow]

so it is actually lower than Slingshot? sadge

[jolly junco]

yes

[neon harness]

😔 my best freeze dps build, maybe i should just use fav, atleast it will maybe burst, or sac

[forest venture]

i lost 50/50 twice this week

i hope i don't lose the next one 😜

[gray oxide]

somehow in a cruel twist of fate i am running triple hydro Nilou bloom

[lyric cargo]

I made some potentially bad decisions and pulled Navia + Key
we'll see if I end up needing the primos and regretting it

[opal surge]

but the question is

how many xiphos did you get

[lyric cargo]

2

I could r3 the one I had now

or r2 it and have one at r1

[jolly junco]

you're playing genshin again?

[gray oxide]

ye

[jolly junco]

nice

[jolly junco]

regret is a sign of weakness

[lyric cargo]

I'll probably use her in Navia Furina Xianyun Zhongli
question is how much that really gains me compared to running Bennett, Diluc, or c6 Ga Ming

[gray oxide]

wdym nice

:pepela:

[jolly junco]

you're just in time for natlan

[gray oxide]

ye

that was half the reason i reinstalled, the other half is Nilou and the skin

[jolly junco]

the skin is nice yeah

[opal surge]

i prefer base, but theyre both pretty

[noble vale]

Is there a way to see chests and collectibles on mini map like last year’s summer event?

[neon harness]

Collect those paper cranes

[noble vale]

Gotcha thanks

[gray oxide]

have you played ZZZ @jolly junco

[jolly junco]

Yeah, I'm playing it still

it's good

[gray oxide]

ic

[jolly junco]

the combat is more enjoyable and reactive than genshin, but outside of combat it doesn't really have anything over genshin

genshin has actual exploration, better story, etc

zzz's combat specifically is better though

[gray oxide]

im getting kinda burnt out from it

[jolly junco]

at least in my opinion

[gray oxide]

:pepela:

[opal surge]

I think it has a couple things that are great outside of combat

[gray oxide]

the combat is better but the other parts im not too sure

[opal surge]

the world is pretty alive with playable characters sprinkled everywhere

[gray oxide]

specifically the tv stuff

[opal surge]

and the animations are so smooth even during storytelling

[jolly junco]

the game isn't bad outside of combat but i don't think it's as good as genshin in other aspects basically

[opal surge]

Thats reasonable

[jolly junco]

for me though combat is what i care about most

so W

[opal surge]

Im just a hoyoshill nowadays and just play genshin hsr zzz everyday

[gray oxide]

same

altho my laptop is on the verge of not having enough storage

i also started playing pokemon vgc but we dont talk abt that

[cedar flint]

does nahida need to hold the bloom set in bloom teams?

[rugged sparrow]

she runs 4p Deepwood usually

bloom set goes to the triggers

[jolly junco]

not usually

always

[rugged sparrow]

we never know george

what if some freak puts it on their Nahida

[jolly junco]

then they're building suboptimally

[noble vale]

How I do this?

[rugged sparrow]

help the 3 squirrels that just flew

do their "challenges"

[noble vale]

Where is it?

It’s showing on the mini map but is not here, could it be under it?

Nevermind I found the cave lol

[noble vale]

I have 12 of these should I exchange them?

[neon wave]

No, only use them when you need the resin

You're already capped

[sharp saddle]

it's fine to keep like 5-10 of them at least anytime, so when suddenly you want to build someone you get the resource to do so instead of having to wait

[noble vale]

Ok I thought i could do that to have enough to do world bosses or talent mats or hero swift farming

But when do I need them exactly? How much do I need?

[sharp saddle]

it regenerates one every 8 minutes or so but only when you're not reaching cap.

so for maximum efficiency you can just always have them below 200

resin is to exchange for domain / leyline / boss rewards

[noble vale]

Lmao i think I have done it before but when it was 160

[sharp saddle]

right, same concept

anyhow just try to spend them before they reach 200 (if possible)

[noble vale]

Ok but do I use it all as long as is below 200?

[sharp saddle]

up to you? as long as there's a need

[noble vale]

Aight

[sharp saddle]

think of a plan to build someone for example, and you'll know where to spend resins

[neon wave]

You can use them as you need, there's no real right way
As Firefly Main said, it just depends on who you're currently building/what materials you're lacking

[sharp saddle]

anything but creating ore enhancement with magic ore and resin

that's the real wrong way

[neon wave]

Ok maybe there is a wrong way

[cedar flint]

so I assume that would be kokomi?

[rugged sparrow]

depends on the team, but if you run Nilou/Kok/2 dendro then yeah

[cedar flint]

that probably would be the team

does kok need to be on field?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

more hydro app if she on-fields + she can sustain herself to tank bloom dmg

[cedar flint]

for the second dendro should I use collei traveler or kirara?

collei is c5

[rugged sparrow]

depends, most 2nd dendro perform relatively the same-ish
if you want comfort you go for Kirara / Yaoyao / Baizhu for premium option

[cedar flint]

should I build the second dendro regularly or em based

[rugged sparrow]

since Kok heals relatively little with full EM build

[cedar flint]

I can do a mixed build

[rugged sparrow]

regularly is fine cuz they're there for dendro reso + helps to maintain dendro aura just in case

on an ideal scenario, the dendro units have very little bloom ownership

[cedar flint]

I could give collei instructor

[rugged sparrow]

u can sure

[cedar flint]

it would give kok more em and easier hybrid build

cus it seems like after 1k em the dmg increase is negligible

[rugged sparrow]

yeh you can opt for 1 HP/HB main stat

[cedar flint]

I will see how much em she gets too best case I will be able to give hp and healing bonus worse case just healing bonus

ok so collei it is since she gives em with burst

[rugged sparrow]

Collei can also run Elegy (if you have it)

[cedar flint]

ye I don’t lol

sac it is

[rugged sparrow]

Fav also helps, Collei's E has awkward backswing

kinda cringe to use two in a succession

but maybe that's me

[cedar flint]

well doesn’t have to be a succession

every 6 sec would be ideal cus of her c2

and the sprout effect

[rugged sparrow]

u dont wanna be swapping out of Kokomi though, ideally

cuz you'll lose her burst too

[cedar flint]

true I do have c1 kok

so extra hydro from fish

I heard sac is good on bloom kok

[rugged sparrow]

it is yes

highest EM sub so obvious pick
also helps you to reset jellyfish location in multiwave scenario

[cedar flint]

btw what good weapon for nahida she is currently on sac

[rugged sparrow]

Sac works though EM is less of a priority for her in Nilou bloom teams

[cedar flint]

well I do have 2 r5 sac

[cedar flint]

more em boost for kok if 1k em

[rugged sparrow]

ideally get her sig

[cedar flint]

but ig I don’t need as much em cus of the buffs

[rugged sparrow]

wot

Kokomi is already building tons of EM herself

Nahida's buff is based on the person with highest EM

[cedar flint]

200 em from nahida will compensate for the circlet

[rugged sparrow]

I mean I guess if you wanna build triple EM Nahida so she has highest EM to somewhat compensate -1 EM main stat from Kok

[cedar flint]

my nahida is just already triple em

she has 939 em

would be 967 if I ascend her

[fair urchin]

Rate this Bennett guys

[forest venture]

more er substats 🔥 🔥 🔥

NOW

[quaint fern]

I personally just use amber on nahida to help with healing

[fair urchin]

Fav

Yeah sapwood would be good

[plain nimbus]

what can i do with kokomi

i dont think she fits anything i play

got her accidentally some time ago

but i know shes great

[forest venture]

show team

[plain nimbus]

my only built teams are ganyu xiangling bennet diona and raiden bennet xiangling xinqiu

[forest venture]

anyone else? you can put kokomi in a freeze team

[plain nimbus]

should i send a pic of all characters?

[toxic turret]

I bought the battle pass, which weapon should I get. I don't have any weapon from battle pass. I'm also saving up for raiden's rerun.

[cedar flint]

well the best battle pass weapon is serpentspine

but you probably don’t use claymore

[forest venture]

yes ofc

[quaint fern]

wolf fang is okay for furina in low er req

[forest venture]

serpent spine for beidou, it's great on almost all claymores. you can just give raiden the catch which is a fishable item

[spare knot]

Is boon of the elder tree any good? I'm debating neglecting Inazuma for it

[spare knot]

Bro edging benny

[bold herald]

what's with the Imaginarium Theater? I just see this one after leaving the game for a long time. do I have to add this event to my monthly basis? I don't see it as efficient way to earn primos

[strange scarab]

its basically alternating with spiral abyss now

[plain nimbus]

he just like me

[bold herald]

Me who don't Spiral Abyss: Oh okay.
-# This person is too lazy for such commitments like these.

[limber light]

Ayato, lyney, Yae, Xiao, xianyun, Alhaithem, Cyno, Yaoyao, wanderer, Ningguang, Gaming, and i'm building Kiara

[neon harness]

You can get ballad, for cyno in teams with 3 diff elements, backsword for ayato, death match for Xiao, wolf fang for alhaitham, serpent spine for gaming

[forest venture]

yes ballad of the fjord

[limber light]

Well....the thing is I have most of there weapons. Well Alhaitham has Mist Splitter, so I don't know if wolf fang is better or not. And I have Dehya's weapon for Gaming.

[quaint fern]

Do yourself a favor and bench cyno

[neon harness]

Mist is better

[limber light]

Alright lol

I love cyno😭

[neon harness]

Ballad is fine on xiangling too, ofc teams with 3+ elements, so like national

[neon harness]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRq-sQxkvdbvaJtQAGG6iVz2q2UN9FCKZ8Mkyis87QHFptcOU3ViLh0_PJyMxFSgwJZrd10kbYpQFl1/pubhtml#

It’s the build doc, so you can compare weapon rankings ig

[limber light]

Is ballad better then Xiaos weapon on her?

[thorn scaffold]

Spiral abyss is not every month and every 16th month anymore ?

[hot spoke]

It's every first day of the month now

[thorn scaffold]

BULL SHIT

[hot spoke]

And Imaginereum theater every 16th

[thorn scaffold]

thats huge L

[hot spoke]

Basically they changed abyss to theater

[thorn scaffold]

at least tell me the theater gives at least as much or more?

primo gems

[hot spoke]

They give more primos combined unlike two abysses per month (before theater existed)

[thorn scaffold]

Hmm okey, not complaining than.

[thorn scaffold]

Huge pain clearing last boss, which they did not have the energy part of the theater.

[thorn scaffold]

will i be still getting more primo gems unable to clear the verry last floor ?

[hot spoke]

Should be

[thorn scaffold]

Thanks for reply, i apperciate it.

[hot spoke]

600 + 600 per month was the old one,
Now it's,
620 (theater) + 700 (800 if 12*) per month

[hot spoke]

[thorn scaffold]

Dont u benfite from adding players with decent characters ? Is there a # for that?

Sorry for bothring u with lots of question.

[hot spoke]

What do you mean by #? But the benefit for adding players with decent characters is that it could help you clear the theater faster

[thorn scaffold]

I mean a channel on this server where people ask each other to add for theater ?

[hot spoke]

Ah...

That, I don't know much about.

[thorn scaffold]

Are u EU?

[hot spoke]

But maybe you could ask either here or #👥gimshim-coop to get friend help for the theater

[hot spoke]

Nope, I'm on Asia

[thorn scaffold]

aww okey thanks, ur super kind.

[hot spoke]

I'm just trying for today 😭 but thanks

[forest venture]

spiral abyss primogers is now 800

[sonic pier]

Hope this is worthit for my nilou bloom team~

How's my nillou? 73k hp - 232em c0r1 tho, i noticed that her EM goes nearly 800 with weapon buff

[thorn scaffold]

BRUH THEY NERF? how much was it before? 1600?

[forest venture]

not nerf, it was 1200 before imagnarium

[hot spoke]

It was 1200 per month before

[sonic pier]

600 before but every 15/30 reset
now they added theater

[hot spoke]

Now it's 1420

Including theater

[sonic pier]

now its like 1420 every 15/30

[thorn scaffold]

oof so barely the same if u unable to clear the last stage

I mean this is still huge nerf considering how easy the abyss is compare to theater

Including u be needing 18 leveld up charcters

[sonic pier]

u dont need to get the stamp on theater.
just clear it and u get ur primos :DDD

[thorn scaffold]

Not beginner friendely, Hoyo has been taking away more then giving away.

[sonic pier]

also f12 is not beginner friendly xd

[thorn scaffold]

compare to theater? u bet it is

u could finish floor 12 with 4 stars characters

[opal surge]

I think technically speaking theater requires far less resin than abyss f12

since you literally only need to get the characters to 70

[thorn scaffold]

but in theater u be needing 18 4 stars level 70 charcters.

[sonic pier]

Theres trial tho?

[opal surge]

you dont have to farm artifacts for theater

that being said if you only do normal mode on theater you still have a net gain in primos to before

[quaint fern]

you need to 90 her

[thorn scaffold]

Does not matter, lets say ur RNG is pretty much sht and ur floors allf up and end up beig stuck and need to be reseting every single time.

[opal surge]

you are losing 180 primos from not doing hard but theres a net gain of 220 since the change

[quaint fern]

keep in mind you don't need to get the medal/star for the stages to get full rewards

[sonic pier]

there XD just leveled up

[quaint fern]

as long as you have decent talent levels, +90 weapons, and +20 artifacts, you should be fine

[thorn scaffold]

U cant have 6 decent characters and than 11 level 70 charcters with no artifacts or weapons

[quaint fern]

the dps floor needed to clear theatre is very low compared to abyss

[opal surge]

plenty of no artifact runs with many lvl 70's have been done on theater

[quaint fern]

^ you don't need that much dps to be able to clear

your problem is probably not saving a bow character for the final stage @thorn scaffold bring diona or smth

[sonic pier]

1 arleccino and 3 potato chars HAHAHA

[neon wave]

Theater is fairly easy if you don't fuck up and run out of chars
There's definitely a bit of a steeper requirement in terms of amount of characters needed, but the needed investment is nowhere near

[quaint fern]

low but broad investment

you have more than enough time in a month to level the characters if you don't have enough

[opal surge]

its fair to say that theater sucks really badly for the first 1-3 months

simply becasue players may not have pulled enough to have the options to level the characters

but beyond that its whatever

[quaint fern]

it's really just the people who didn't have characters leveled/don't have enough

[thorn scaffold]

Well what was i talking about? i never spoke of diffculty i spoke of requirments, which amkes Abyss easier.

[forest venture]

nerfing character simps into pulling for banners they don't like 🗣️

[neon wave]

I think abyss is way harder

[thorn scaffold]

I never had needed more than 6 charcters for abyss

[quaint fern]

Im probably just psycho ex f2p but I have everyone leveled to 70 for the free fates anyways

yeah imo abyss is way harder

[neon wave]

Unless you materially don't have characters

[opal surge]

youre doing trio runs?

did you do your first 36* as double trio runs?

[neon wave]

Yeah, me too

[quaint fern]

ah so the 1/1/1 kazuha isn't a meme
https://gcsim.app/sh/d9MQkd8qFWBc
https://gcsim.app/sh/tkKL8JQgbtHL

[thorn scaffold]

i have no clue what trio is but i full star and 12 floor yes

[quaint fern]

top is 1/1/1
bottom is 8/8/8

[opal surge]

leave the embedd wth

now i have to click on them

[neon wave]

It's 8 chars for abyss

[opal surge]

[neon wave]

4+4

[quaint fern]

let me send it again then 😔

[neon wave]

Unless you are using non full teams

[thorn scaffold]

if u have 1 bad charcter it does not change a thing.

[quaint fern]

https://gcsim.app/sh/d9MQkd8qFWBc
https://gcsim.app/sh/tkKL8JQgbtHL

[thorn scaffold]

on each team

[quaint fern]

it's like a 1% difference LOL

[opal surge]

well if u have 12 bad characters in theater it also doesnt change a thing

[neon wave]

It doesn't?

It really depends

[opal surge]

I think it would matter more in aoe though and if kazuha wasnt swirling hydro

[thorn scaffold]

still huge nerf if u ask me for causal players

[quaint fern]

he should be swirling cryo

[opal surge]

casual players can usually do normal

[opal surge]

oh yeah true my brain is fried

[quaint fern]

cryo swirl yep

[opal surge]

dont get me wrong I dont like theater as it is right now

[neon wave]

Tbf I wouldn't expect casual players to do 12 either

[opal surge]

i just dont think its relevant for pull economy

[thorn scaffold]

It is lol

[opal surge]

Are you arguing that most people that can clear floor 12 cant do normal on theater?

[thorn scaffold]

abyss was basically the place i only good most primo gems from

[quaint fern]

it's only relevant when you put hydro on LMAO

[thorn scaffold]

Im telling u people who cant even enter with not having 18 charcters

[opal surge]

im asking normal mode, not hard mode

you dont need 18 characters for normal

[opal surge]

If you can clear normal its a net primo gain per month over the previous only abyss setup

[quaint fern]

3 hydro 4* in 4 years

[thorn scaffold]

u compering the hard abyss is needing 18 charcters, comapre hard mode abyss as well to hard mode theater.-

[quaint fern]

tbh if you're capable of clearing abyss 12 36*, you should have no problem with theatre, given you have enough characters

[opal surge]

why? im comparing whats necessary to get a gain on primogems

[quaint fern]

hard mode theatre is hands down easier than 36*

[opal surge]

since you said it was a "nerf" to pull economy

to be a nerf it needs to be a net negative on primos, meaning you can't clear normal in IT

[thorn scaffold]

OMG iswear this wild pokemons apearing this discusion is about diffculty.... REQUIRMENTS BRO

[opal surge]

the requirements are a resin sink

[neon wave]

There's still a requirement for abyss

[quaint fern]

do you know how much resin you have to spend to be able to 36* abyss?

[opal surge]

farming artifacts to clear abyss is also a resin sink

[neon wave]

It's damage

[opal surge]

For abyss you need levels, talents weapon levels, artifacts

[quaint fern]

I still think it costs less to build enough characters for theatre than it takes to farm artifacts for 36ing abyss

[opal surge]

for theater you literally just need to bring the character to 70

[quaint fern]

lvl 70 + max weapons + random rainbow artifacts is enough to clear hard theatre

[thorn scaffold]

resin for for for 2 teams? less than 18 charcters.

[neon wave]

And as Sensi said, clearing normal mode is still more primos than abyss was before

[quaint fern]

less than spending 6 months in a domain? I doubt it

[opal surge]

I dont think this conversation is going anywhere

lets just drop it atp

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

[thorn scaffold]

BRO u dont even need good artifcts clearing 12th abyss

[neon wave]

Just seems like a weird argument tbh

[thorn scaffold]

just get single CR role and have the stacks up u be clearing 12th floor

single CR on each artifacts.

[opal surge]

Whats the lowest investment f12 36* you can find on youtube

for the current abyss

Or if you arent willing to look, whats the lowest investment abyss clear you can do, without 5* cons

How bad can your artifacts really be, how unleveld can your talents and weapons be

[thorn scaffold]

what is it 4.8?

i am ot keeping up

or 4.7?

[neon wave]

It is yes

[opal surge]

4.8

[thorn scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbtAU6QvaoI

[opal surge]

I can garantuee you that one teams worth of artifacts is already on average more resin than needed to bring 8 characters to lvl 70

[thorn scaffold]

took me 2 minuts

[opal surge]

4 lvl 90s is already more resin than 8 characters at lvl 70

without even looking at any artifacts or talents

theres 8 lvl 90s in this video

[quaint fern]

Not to mention books e.e

[neon wave]

How is that low invest

C0R1 Neuvi

Pretty cracked artist from the few I've seen

[thorn scaffold]

and u be not neednt it in theater?

[opal surge]

you need literally nothing in theater

[neon wave]

No?

[opal surge]

this is not even an exageration

the dps check is in the cellar

a single character to 70 is on average 200 resin btw

[quaint fern]

Isn't it like 15k DPS or smth

[opal surge]

a character to 90 is 670 resin

[quaint fern]

I think xiangling can hit that alone LMAO

[opal surge]

on boss mats alone

not including the 300 books

[thorn scaffold]

DOes not need be 90, most charcters i have are 80.

[neon wave]

This is going nowhere

[opal surge]

xd

[quaint fern]

Let's drop it

[shut geode]

Is it normal for Scara to do 2k with normal attacks or can he be better

[neon wave]

The investment needed is nowhere near, that's it
Do with that what you will

[opal surge]

Im gonna leave for dinner, have a good one

[quaint fern]

We're not going to convince you
You aren't going to convince us

Agree to disagree?

[thorn scaffold]

U sayng that having 8 charcters level 90, as u speak to evryone having that or MUST have to clear 12th floor.

[opal surge]

how much resin have you spend on average on your characters

[neon wave]

1 CR roll per artifact and level 80 clearly

[thorn scaffold]

Dont count but i spend it DAILy time

[neon wave]

Nothing else

[opal surge]

you can count it, just add up levels, talent levels and average time for your artifact quality

when you do count it let me know how your thousands of resin per character compare to bringin a character to lvl 70 for 200 resin

[thorn scaffold]

by TIME that dont exctand to neededing 18 charcters of the blue at level 70.

[opal surge]

it takes 18 days to level 18 new characters from level 1 to 70

this is just above half of the duration of one IT

not to mention you're given 6 for free and you dont have to do hard

[quaint fern]

Also you do realize that you don't have to star each stage to get the rewards right?

[thorn scaffold]

Yes u havie 8 charcters, 2 teams one DPS each team with rest of them level 70, is it clearable ?

[opal surge]

yeah

[quaint fern]

36* abyss? Hell no

[opal surge]

theater is clearable with only lvl 70 characters

[thorn scaffold]

i call that BS

even hard mode

?

[opal surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4HZRy7kbF4

[rugged sparrow]

theatre is easy lol

[opal surge]

theyre not all level 70 but none of them are wearing a single artifact

i think thats good enough

this is full stars btw

(you need 0 stars for full rewards)

[quaint fern]

Also you do know that if you borrow even a decently built neuvi, he can solo the last two bosses?

(given he has IR)

[thorn scaffold]

All were builded up and there was only 2 of them level 70

[opal surge]

yeah and this has no artifacts and is a full star clear

[quaint fern]

The fact that they have zero artifacts says something

[opal surge]

again, you dont need stars for the rewards

[quaint fern]

Artifacts are way more important than levels

[neon wave]

Look, go play theater
And see for yourself how it compares to abyss

And get back to us

[thorn scaffold]

THIS DUDE HAS MORE LEVEL 90 THAN I HAVE LEVEL 80

[lyric cargo]

kqm kaz guide used to have this
https://keqingmains.com/kazuha/#Level_and_Talent_Priority https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073722731939504218/1169964875913641994/image0.jpg?ex=65eaf9b3&is=65d884b3&hm=f6f4acd558334c02ff178d71fb6f26a8f4c4a0518a80103c3fa6c48a229f7033&

[opal surge]

I assume that wasnt meant for me

but also Im currently leveling characters so that I can

[neon wave]

Lmao it was not, sorry

[rugged sparrow]

complaining about IT difficulty when he hasn't even tried it

[opal surge]

Okay im leaving for real now i got 'd back

[thorn scaffold]

Another wild pokemon

WE SPEKAING OF REQUIRTMENTS NOT DIFCCULTY

[rugged sparrow]

bro it's level 70 chars

[lyric cargo]

I feel like this one is less difficult than the last one
maybe being allowed hydro is the reason
but also the enemies, imo

[jolly junco]

for a second i thought i bricked my run on act 8 cuz i didnt know there was the drake, then 10 seconds later i remembered neuvillette can just hit it while it's airborne anyway and gg easy

imagine using a bow character

[rugged sparrow]

Im just Furina Yelan afk the Drake

[thorn scaffold]

Yes and im saying there no way u having 2 teams with each having 1 DPS and reset 70 to clear sbyss, also spekaing of elemental rotations which makes u have elss options of charcters.

[rugged sparrow]

womp womp

[lyric cargo]

I made sure to leave a bow char for act 8, then ended up not needing it ^^

Venti's last charge could've been used elsewhere

[rugged sparrow]

same, Hidden, same

[opal surge]

Imagine not relying on madmoseille crabaletta to bring down the drake

[rugged sparrow]

I actually spent more time trying to snipe the drake from the sky than actually killing it

(I missed all my CA)

[lyric cargo]

CA aiming on mobile would be my greatest nightmare

[jolly junco]

i dont think jerry plays on mobile

[neon wave]

Let him have the excuse

[jolly junco]

he's a pc gamer

though we shouldnt call him a gamer when he misses all his charged attacks

[neon wave]

Wao

[forest venture]

😨

[rugged sparrow]

look

[quaint fern]

I just missed most of my attacks LOL

[rugged sparrow]

all that matters is the Aeonblight Drake died

[quaint fern]

^

[thorn scaffold]

ncie hacing so many level 90 charcters

at 5 stars

[rugged sparrow]

does bro think lv90 char is like a c6r5 char or what

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thorn scaffold]

worse than level 70 charcters

[lyric cargo]

it's mostly a question of grinding teapot, for me

[forest venture]

it's doable, you just play for 4 years without friends and missing out huge life opportunities that would have landed you a top-notch job early on

[quaint fern]

I genuinely can't tell if you're just trolling at this point

[rugged sparrow]

well hopefully they're trolling

[neon wave]

Only whels have 3 level 90 chars

[thorn scaffold]

yep

[thorn scaffold]

yes

[quaint fern]

nah, if you landed that top notch job then you'd have more income to spend on genshin impact

in genshin you're either a money whale or a time whale

[rugged sparrow]

aren't you the person who saves 100k primo and never pull for anyone

[quaint fern]

i'm at 72k rn smh

[rugged sparrow]

not you, the IT brainlet guy

[lyric cargo]

I went and checked, I have 16x lvl90, 4x lvl80
(585 days active)
most of my chars are hp or level scaling in some way

[quaint fern]

oh mb jerry

[rugged sparrow]

kinda amazing that you still complain about IT level requirement when you have a char pool of 7 chars after years of playing

[quaint fern]

why is this mf complaining with c1r1 neuvi

:icant:

[rugged sparrow]

well rei was right, just your average troll

[lyric cargo]

can only use him for two acts, tbf

[neon wave]

Eh, trials cover the rest

Or at least they did last cycle

Haven't done this one yet

[quaint fern]

they had 43 characters as of 9 months ago, I don't see why they're complaining #📌gimshim-help message

[opal surge]

you can borrow c6r5 yelange for 2 other stages

[quaint fern]

last two boss fghts

at c1 r1 he quite literally solos

no need for IR

[rugged sparrow]

bro idc about DPS I just want Venti + Kaz + Sucrose be available on all acts cuz mob stages is