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quaint fern
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yeah so this sword disables it

rugged sparrow
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disables it for 1s

quaint fern
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alternatively, I could go the charlotte furina variant but idk the rotation for that

quaint fern
rugged sparrow
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just wait the shield out pensivewobble

quaint fern
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that's a whole ass minute

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I was trying that at first

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but I was like 20 sec too slow on 2nd half

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bc the lectors are last

rugged sparrow
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unlucky

bright cape
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i found out 2 electro are sufficient

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i used fischl and kuki

rugged sparrow
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for what

quiet pine
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Lyney c1 or his weapon? (currently using prototype crescent)

ripe robin
bright cape
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this abyss really needs pyro as expected

quiet pine
bright cape
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i guess electro also works

ripe robin
rugged sparrow
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hoyolab not updating yet

opal surge
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i mean you just pneuma or ousia it

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and shield is gone

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and coppelius is a gentleman so he doesnt reshield before your ability is back up from CD

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I like this abyss tbh, was my first baptist, I thought i twould be a way bigger issue than it is

quaint fern
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I should learn the charlotte furina team for ayaka 😔

reef comet
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isn't wrio an ousia character, you can probably use him to fight icewind suite, kinda funny ngl

rugged sparrow
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eh the shield is kinda fuckall anyway, can just wait it out

quaint fern
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yeah but like 1:30 to clear 2nd half is kind of tight

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especially with 3 waves

reef comet
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dodging and doing nothing while it's spinning and throwing bullets

bright cape
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this was the toughest one i faced till date

opal surge
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lynette is ousia so it was comfy to do icewind suite with her :truege:

quiet pine
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welp thats just a way to express my thanks lol

ripe robin
reef comet
bright cape
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arle on the other hand

reef comet
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the only hard thing in this abyss is the shield anyway

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takes time to break

bright cape
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yah. i found out neuv is not good at breaking shield

slate tinsel
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They need to start making supports who I actually like so I'll build them for abyss

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This shit sucks

quaint fern
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too many dps in fontaine smh

bright cape
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true

slate tinsel
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Trying to get 2nd half done is just not happening. 1st half takes me a minute or less each chamber but this is just 💀

opal surge
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just play national if youre desperate

slate tinsel
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I either lose out on shield/heal or DPS it feels like no matter what I try and part of the issue is I play mono Yoimiya so I have Zhongli and Bennett stuck with her

reef comet
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yomia

slate tinsel
opal surge
slate tinsel
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She's not part of my usual teams so yeahhhh we're fucked I fear

reef comet
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mood, no one likes the best genshin character anyway

slate tinsel
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Rlly I would just like ONE more star so I only miss 50 primos 😔

opal surge
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are you missing one star in all 3 chambers

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You could yomia baptist prolly if you really wanted to

slate tinsel
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3, 2, haven't beat bc every time I come close someone dies and my whole rotation gets screwed (missing shield!)

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But I'd get 2 stars if I had a smooth run

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I almost had 2 stars first try but my ping killed itself smile

reef comet
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relatable

bright cape
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we really need pyro xingqiu

slate tinsel
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I mean. Hu Tao 💀 would Layla Xq Yelan work

reef comet
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yep

bright cape
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that would

slate tinsel
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I really do NOT build anyone I didn't like at one point icl 😭

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As far as 'built' goes

reef comet
reef comet
slate tinsel
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I mean some of them it's not that I don't like them just I am not getting SHIT for artis

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I'm about to just start using anything with the correct main stat

supple perch
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do i go for c1 arle or save for charas i missed? if so any recs on bis(either dps or support) chara to save for? charas i mainly use are eula, raiden, arle, ayaka for ref

reef comet
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c1 arlecchino is a really a big upgrade, like 20-30% increase iirc

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but like, I always recommend pulling new character rather than cons or weapons

worthy siren
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Is nahida's crit passive a fixed stat or do substats build up on her?

haughty lotus
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You basically have no 5 star supports, go for those before constellations. A few of your dps really want Kazuha

rugged sparrow
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get Kaz Furina and ig you're free to pull for whoever past that point

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though they're by no mean mandatory
if you have no trouble clearing abyss then just pull whoever

supple perch
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between kazuha and furina, where do i benefit more

rugged sparrow
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I'd say Kaz since it improves Klee mono, Childe internat, Arlecchino, and Ayaka teams

supple perch
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i think i read furina is bis support, but how does kazuha fare

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internat?

bright cape
supple perch
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since kazuha teams were mentioned, where is furina used on chars i have

neon wave
rugged sparrow
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Eula also benefits from her

supple perch
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idk about klee, I can't really use her properly

rugged sparrow
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unlucky

supple perch
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she that good? she get buffed or anything?

rugged sparrow
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not really

supple perch
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also what does mono means?

rugged sparrow
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mono = most of the team's dmg comes from a single element

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monopyro = most of the dmg is pyro

supple perch
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gimme team example

rugged sparrow
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Klee/Bennett/Xiangling/Kazuha

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the go-to monopyro Klee team

supple perch
jolly junco
rugged sparrow
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Raiden + 3 units that just buff her

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hypercarry tends to refer to teams that just consist of 1 main damage dealer + 3 supports to buff

supple perch
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so is same with national?

rugged sparrow
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far from it

supple perch
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why?

rugged sparrow
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in national there's Xiangling and Xingqiu usually

supple perch
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don't the 3 peeps give her buff?

rugged sparrow
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and they're both DPSes

rugged sparrow
supple perch
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give example

quaint fern
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whar ayaka works on baptist

rugged sparrow
supple perch
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ye i mean example of hypercarry team

quaint fern
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you have to infuse kazuha burst with pyro so you can break the cryo shield kek

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hypercarry is 3 supports + 1 dps

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basically

rugged sparrow
quaint fern
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xiao xianyun faruzan furina

rugged sparrow
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Neuv/Furina/Kazuha/Zhongli

quaint fern
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tbh there's not really a good rigorous definition of a hypercarry

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like even in my ganyu "hypercarry team" xiangling still does ~25% of the team's dps

supple perch
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lisa gives buffs?

rugged sparrow
quaint fern
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hakushin + def shred

supple perch
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ttds?

quaint fern
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  • whatever artifact set she's using
rugged sparrow
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Thrilling Tales

quaint fern
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hakushin if dendro team, otherwise go ttds

rugged sparrow
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idk if she can reliably use Hakushin on Raiden HC though

supple perch
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oh the good ol' 3s

quaint fern
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yeah probably ttds, I thought they were asking in general wwww

rugged sparrow
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wwwww

rugged sparrow
quaint fern
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OH LMAOOO

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DID YOU ALSO SWIRL PYRO WITH BURST OMEGALUL

rugged sparrow
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did not

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maybe I should've

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I thought I could break the cryo shield with plunge + Wrio CA alone
but nope, Baptist goes for ult cuz I cant break the shield omegalul

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I'll try doing that next time ig

quaint fern
scarlet orbit
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if arlecchino talent priority NA?

quaint fern
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NA>skill>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>burst

haughty lotus
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NA >>>>>>>>>>>>> skill > burst

rugged sparrow
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Most "Cryo" Shields used by enemies are in reality of the Frozen element. Hydro application does not affect the Frozen gauge on enemy shields.

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(I found out about it while farming Baptist for Baizhu with monogeo)

velvet ingot
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anyway gang how we feeling?
i do plan on farming an additional em sands for vape teams btw

rugged sparrow
velvet ingot
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so does that mean i can drain an abyss mage's shields with the same element?

rugged sparrow
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shields have HP yes

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idk about same element

slate tinsel
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Blocked even

velvet ingot
slate tinsel
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What's wrong with my Neuv build

rugged sparrow
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basically with enough dmg u can brute force any shield truege

velvet ingot
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tho you have 5k more hp and a little less cv than me

slate tinsel
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Overcapped CR 😔

velvet ingot
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lmao

velvet ingot
slate tinsel
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All of it could easily be tossed oit besides sands

velvet ingot
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not really bringing much to the table

slate tinsel
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Well HP is fine for Neuv lol

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It's the fact it's only 31cv that's tossable

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Wait I'm cooking on EU with my Ganyu hold up

velvet ingot
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(someone get the fire extinguisher rq before she burn down the kitchen)

slate tinsel
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CR circlet and Lyney's bow and we're in

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Also the goblet 🤤

velvet ingot
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0 er, not bad

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also atk sands on a melt build? that's a first

slate tinsel
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213 EM without an EM sands kinda epic tho

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Esp since the pieces the em is on have good cv

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sillygoofy RNG kinda cooked for me

velvet ingot
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that feather would look perfect on my tighnari

slate tinsel
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Back beast

velvet ingot
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should probably get around to building him rather soon

quaint fern
velvet ingot
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though i am in a perpetual hell of trying to get all my characters to lvl 90 and 9/9/9 because funni

slate tinsel
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I max leveled (89/90 rn but yk) Zhongli finally only.took me erm. Over a year

velvet ingot
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._.

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that doesn't sound realistic unless you were building him on the side

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wait that sounded wrong

slate tinsel
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Well I don't like geo hypo fighting so

fossil fable
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Hello

bright cape
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this abyss was really tough. who should i build for better element coverage?

quaint fern
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You're probably fine

bright cape
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SataniaThumbsUp then next one will be pyro archon/dragon

keen willow
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Mmmm f2p clear

keen willow
bright cape
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only xiangling is rn

keen willow
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Im kidding you're probably fine with xiangling

bright cape
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i somehow managed with double electro one side

keen willow
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Second side right

bright cape
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double electro was first half

keen willow
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Oh wait are the two lectors second half

bright cape
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i think i did the opposite.
kek everyone was saying neuv first side is easy

keen willow
bright cape
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she helps a lot with cryo shields

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cannot wait to build pyro archon

keen willow
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It was probably all fischl

keen willow
bright cape
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she's kinda built.

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just wish she was not energy hungry

keen willow
bright cape
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still have to funnel once or twice HeheSmile

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with bennett.

fading holly
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is it just me or does kazuha e go higher

bright cape
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if u hold may be?

keen willow
turbid tulip
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i got 2 lyney signature bow, should i keep seperate or refine into 1

astral sphinx
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For Lyney how much Cr Rate/Dmg should I aim for?

timid oxide
turbid tulip
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oki

solid nexus
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Is tenacity of millelith good on kirara?

minor gale
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im currently AR 52 and i was doing some domain farming, but im not getting 2 artifacts per run. is there a reason why?

haughty lotus
haughty lotus
minor gale
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my characters arent built at all since i play very on and off

solid nexus
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Can this work as a freeze team?

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I dont have any other hydro options besides barbara

neon harness
dusty cape
south dune
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I opend all posible tresures on the map but only 89% Do quest lines also count to it?

rare iron
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Quests do not count

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Mora boxes, stone piles also count but that's not in Mons

slate tinsel
opal surge
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Did you yomia the baptist

torpid coyote
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is 202% er for raiden in rational enough?

umbral sedge
torpid coyote
umbral sedge
torpid coyote
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Ok

slate tinsel
dark mason
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otherwise theres no strict benchmark perfect amount

keen solar
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So i let me intrusive thoughts take over and i got dehya but i was able to buy benny at least (thanks whoever told me that)

neon harness
normal jolt
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I'm really struggling this abyss to get more than 32 stars.

I used Raiden National on first half with great success. But second half, I just can't properly get through 12-2-2 electro shields.

Any ideas for second half?

I just put anything I can think of to address the shields:
Thoma C6, full EM (but could also put Tenacity)
Wriothesley C0
Nahida C0
Kokomi
Zhongli
Kaveh
Kazuha
Yanfei C6 (though I don't have any 5* weapon and would have to equip a set first)
Rosaria C5
(Qiqi)

No Yelan. No Furina. No Chevreuse.
https://akasha.cv/profile/735609305

I could switch Xinqiu for Fischl in first half, but I get nasty survivability issues then (skill issue)

quaint fern
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baptist will cycle pyro > cryo > electro

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so another choice is to run a hyperbloom/spread/aggravate team

subtle ingot
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is neuvillette bloom good

quaint fern
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for chamber 2 specifically, you might want to opt for a spead team

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for chamber 3, you'll need hydro

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I just recommend burgeon because it has all the requisite elements to break baptist shield

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you can also swirl pyro with kazuha to break the baptist cryo shield if you're using something like spread

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but that's pretty skuffed imo

opal surge
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kazuha in spread

quaint fern
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it works but yk you might have to spend extra time doing kazuha plunge attacks to drain the shield

opal surge
quaint fern
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because of the lectors

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so like.... do a normal spread team... then just put kazuha in there OMEGALUL

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burgeon is probably the go to though

quaint fern
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idt you'll be able to clear copellius with a wriothesley team without super high investment

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tbh I think it might be easiest for you to move rational to 2nd half and play some other team 1st half

paper cargo
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Is this good or should I work on something?

quaint fern
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looks fine

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but none of the pieces are particularly "wow"

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everything could be improved

paper cargo
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that flower is one of my best artifacts in 3 years of playing 🥲

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I'm not the luckiest when it comes to rolls, but circlet is fine for er and hp or should i just go for cdmg?

quaint fern
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you shouldn't need that much ER on him in the first place

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120-130 is generally a good range for tome but changes depending on team composition and # of fav holders

paper cargo
slate tinsel
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With that said ig there technically is no reason Coppelius boss should be struggle besides them shredding any shielding u do

quaint fern
slate tinsel
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I'd argue the bigger problem is if she's even leveled atp 😭

opal surge
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lynette slander wth

quaint fern
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oh is that your plunge team LMAO

slate tinsel
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It's not slander if it's TRUE!!! I love her but I need C6 to care

quaint fern
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they made cryo good on both sides

opal surge
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arle is quite good both sides as well tbf

quaint fern
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and look, arlecchino teams steal your bennett, so no national other side

opal surge
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as long as you play a vape variant if you do second half

quaint fern
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and guess what, most people have bennett xiangling as their primary pyro characters

slate tinsel
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I don't use cryo so erm. I did Neuv Layla Furina Kazuha

Yoi Zl Xingqiu Bennett

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Actually Layla is cryo but ykwim

quaint fern
slate tinsel
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It's ok I'm on the 4 hours of sleep pill kms

shy rune
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What's a good team against abyss 12 second half?

quaint fern
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send your character list

shy rune
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I have everyone

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Most characters are built

quaint fern
slate tinsel
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I'm C6 so great!

quaint fern
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oh LMAOOO

fathom igloo
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back again cause i need to know

quaint fern
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okay, I was asking because I saw someone asking in maincord and I wasn't too sure how yoimiya handled two enemies

slate tinsel
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I'd imagine fine without even though bc yk. Zhongli working his geo and Bennett anyways so if urs is C6 u could just swap off and NA the shields lol

fathom igloo
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am i okay with hu tao? or do i need arlechnno

quaint fern
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ah wait that was the problem

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I was thinking about recommending childe nat 2nd half and was thinking about what to say for 1st half

shy rune
slate tinsel
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Honestly I am appalled you are strugglin with those cons

shy rune
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Yeah well

slate tinsel
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You might be able to do Hu Tao second half since u've C1 idk I'll let the experts handle it

quaint fern
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tbh I'm just giving advice on teams that I know work

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I don't know how to play 90% of what I recommend LOL

shy rune
subtle ingot
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is freeze or bloom neuvillette better

quaint fern
subtle ingot
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so electro charge is the best?

shy rune
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I do electro charged neuvi with furina fischl and jean

quaint fern
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when multiple enemies, sure

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^ that team only works when c1+

shy rune
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Oh

subtle ingot
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so what is the best kind of comp for neuv? electro charge with fischl?

quaint fern
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1st half just go hu tao vape/yoimiya vape
then 2nd half: arlecchino vape
@shy rune

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HT 1st half is probably preferable over yoi because you can run her w/o bennett

shy rune
quaint fern
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oh actually you have nevui

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uuh just use him 1st half

shy rune
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I need something to break the ice on the 2nd fight

quaint fern
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just go neuvi furina charlotte fischl 1st half
arle bennett yelan flex (anemo or shielder for survivability) 2nd half

quaint fern
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just make sure to change her arkhe

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I'm pretty sure salon members is pneuma

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wait no she's ousia with salon members

shy rune
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Oh is that how it works? I never paid attention to the pneuma/ousia except in exploration

quaint fern
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just do a normal attack on furina to disable shield

shy rune
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I feel dumb now

quaint fern
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wait wtf kuki actually shreds the cryo shield quite fast HMMM

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maybe hypahbloom is that way to go 2nd half LMAOOOO

shy rune
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I'll try it

elder bluff
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get a pyro QiqiLurk

rigid river
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I just lost my 50/50 to mona 😦

Is she worth building?

opal surge
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She can be slotted in a few teams but is never really optimal, besides perhaps some freeze variations

bright cape
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i tried doing abyss again with nahida hyperbloom on 2nd side.

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it was a disaster. she frequently runs out of stamina

quaint fern
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oh yeah I hate driving reactions with nahida

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maybe that's why I stopped playing my bloom team LOL

bright cape
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she is squishy and easily puntable too

earnest canyon
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eyebrow

quaint fern
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it's the worst, you waste stamina chasing, you have no innate IR, catalysts use like 1/4 of their stamina every ca

bright cape
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yah. she's going off-field.

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i found out i was using wrong build for off-field nahida

quaint fern
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my off field build is 2em 2em LOL

bright cape
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i wonder if i should do that

quaint fern
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dont LOL

bright cape
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nah. dendro res is too good

quaint fern
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you're trolling unless you're playing burnmelt

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the reason why i'm on 2em 2em is because she does a grand total of like 0 dmg in burnmelt

bright cape
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for off-field

quaint fern
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uuuh idk if I have a card preped

shy rune
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Finally beat it: these teams did it for me. Not my run just used their teams

quaint fern
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wait nvm I'm on 4 DM anyways

haughty lotus
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Tenacity where smh

bright cape
quaint fern
haughty lotus
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Can probably put her on instructors :idk:

quaint fern
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I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before kek

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no way dehya is triggering anything

haughty lotus
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Burning

quaint fern
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you bennett before dehya

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idt there's any dendro aura for her to react with

haughty lotus
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Nahida mark is still there

bright cape
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there should be easy way to compare enka cards

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optimizer is too complex

quaint fern
quaint fern
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istg I'm having trouble finding some stuff even after "figuring it out"

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team loadouts are great and all but I hate how they moved stuff to a new tab

bright cape
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just importing stuff was pain

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for mobile players

quaint fern
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ooh yeah for mobile gl

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they moved custom targets and bonus stats to the new tab

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which doesn't make sense because everything used to be on this tab, the one that you're on most often

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now I gotta click on this whole new tab, change things, then click back

bright cape
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were there always ads?

quaint fern
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I think so?

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anyways I don't really mind them

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they're not like fandom ads

nova swift
quaint fern
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(why has genshin wiki not moved over to wiki.gg)

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fandom has really gone to the pits with their ads

bright cape
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||use ublock||

earnest canyon
bright cape
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is there a way to load a custom nahida config?

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to genshin optimizer

quaint fern
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custom targets? yeah

reef comet
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i'd love to buy some here

quaint fern
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yeah sure bro, that'll be 100k primogems

reef comet
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scam

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ill sue

quaint fern
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I gotta get my c6 ganyu somehow 😔

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gotta hustle

reef comet
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refund your c4 ayaya

quaint fern
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OH IT'S YOU

earnest canyon
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LMAOOOo

bright cape
earnest canyon
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i was confused as wqell

quaint fern
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I was like.... how does a sprout know about my ayaka

reef comet
bright cape
quaint fern
earnest canyon
earnest canyon
quaint fern
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I'm at a solid 300ish pulls saved

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surely c6 ganyu next rerun

earnest canyon
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shorely

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do you have sig i forgot u were treez

quaint fern
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"sig"

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like

earnest canyon
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meant like good weapon

quaint fern
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I probably can pull for TFGM but all of her new r1 options are ~ r2 amos

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so I don't really see the point in pulling for a new bow for her rn

earnest canyon
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yeah

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i forgor u were treez for a moment

strange scarab
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deez

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look at my glorious king

bright cape
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people say sucrose national is better. but kazuha is so comfy to play

civic coral
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is this quest locked, or is it a puzzle im not seeing?

civic coral
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sweet, guess this is common enough for this to be that quick

reef comet
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pretty sure all the tips to the chain puzzles are on maincord

civic coral
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never been

reef comet
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col

strange scarab
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devil

reef comet
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who

strange scarab
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evil

reef comet
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vil

proper blade
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hey uhm guys..what does arle need?

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like..more on atk or more in hp?

elder bluff
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atk

true storm
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bro why are arlecchino rotations so hard to pull off

reef comet
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EQ > team > CA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

true storm
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what if the enemies too low after the set up

rugged sparrow
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where are you testing it on, hilichurl camps?

true storm
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abyss

reef comet
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ain't no way bro killing icewind suite with 1 hit

true storm
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I meant the ronins

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also on ice wind it puts on the ice shield when you get back to arlecchimo lol

elder bluff
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then break it with your pyro attacks

strange scarab
reef comet
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but what if she is

strange scarab
proper blade
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wait no im delusional now i have 2.4k atk 😭 😭

reef comet
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with that much skill issue, you gonna be suffocated

minor gale
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whats a good crit ratio to aim for on neuvillette with protoype amber?

elder bluff
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64

reef comet
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64/250

elder bluff
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that's with his weapon

reef comet
#

nah, it's gonna be 64/300

elder bluff
#

about 200cd without his weapon

minor gale
#

how much hp should i try to go for too?

#

cuz ive been seeing some arguments for hp vs hydro dmg

rugged sparrow
#

unlike ER...

reef comet
#

hydro gob

subtle ingot
#

i want to build main dps zhongli, how would i focus his team?

reef comet
#

put him in c6 bennett xiangling kazuha comp, use burst, do nornal attack and pretend he does something to the team

rugged sparrow
#

if you really want mdps Zhongli you just run physical ZL

subtle ingot
#

okay so physical zl what team is ideal?

rugged sparrow
#

just Fischl + cryo + flex slot

quaint fern
#

naah you gotta go c6 bennett furina xianyun zl

rugged sparrow
#

real

quaint fern
#

i forgot to buy monthly fates..... brb

reef comet
quaint fern
#

🧢

#

I did get my first chevy from standard tho

#

ig I'll take a break from emblem to 70/80 her

earnest canyon
#

escaped emblem hell scream1

fallen topaz
#

Should I only keep artifacts that have at least 2 of the sub stats the character I want to build needs?

reef comet
#

sounds like me

dusty cape
reef comet
#

nah, that's tomorrow's yesterday

haughty lotus
#

Balls

#

K 🪣

rugged sparrow
#

🤨

haughty lotus
#

🤨

neon harness
#

Y’all so sussy smh, not me tho, stay safe

supple perch
#

are there any boss like the wolf?

neon harness
#

Golden wolf lord, or the one in monstat? Which one

supple perch
#

ye the one in monstadt

#

i mean by "like" is being a weekly boss that's not a domain

neon harness
#

Only one like that

#

All others are domains

supple perch
#

ok, just thinking if im missing anything else

#

since the wolf isn't listed on trounce domain on handbook

slate tinsel
#

Any other weekly bosses you'll unlock while doing the story so you won't miss any :) Arlecchino and Azhdaha are locked by character specific story quests (Zhongli pt2 and Arlecchino) but otherwise they are all part of main story

supple perch
#

well im just doing the new bosses with handbook since i havent unlocked those yet so i was thinking if i missed any

slate tinsel
#

Alrightt

reef comet
#

wait, wrong server

dusty cape
neon harness
strange scarab
#

👋

earnest canyon
#

👋

haughty lotus
#

👋

valid shuttle
#

is ~35 sec on the new faded theater domain decent speed? It feels like one of my slowest domains, not sure if its just the nature of the geo shielded enemies tho 🤔

slate tinsel
#

They reduce damage by a decent chunk so yeah pretty decent assuming u aren't getting rid of their shield immediately

valid shuttle
#

currently im using arlecchino + bennett + yelan + zhongli, so ye shields stay up for a bit on the initial 2 guys, then the group of 3 the fire usually hits their health bar directly and i tend to kill them while their shield is still active

slate tinsel
#

Ur doin good then

valid shuttle
#

is the only real way to improve on the timings to use better geo dps?

slate tinsel
#

That or maybe some sort of freeze to stop the mitachurls at the start or a VERY strong nuke team

valid shuttle
#

i tried a hyper raiden team but didnt seem to work very well, even with c2r1 raiden :S

#

also tried a hyperbloom team and again wasn't all that impressive

tame cedar
#

Should you grind Talents first then artifacts?

rugged sparrow
#

preferably yes, since talents are guaranteed upgrades

tame cedar
#

Aight

blazing cliff
#

Do you need EM if you plan to use arlecchino with xing qiu?

wheat kettle
#

Hi! Does anyone know how to trigger "In the wake of narcissus" world quest? I have already completed 3/4 of the puzzles, i dont think i can lift the seal at the 4th puzzle unless i have the quest on

neon harness
#

Cease, devil

reef comet
neon harness
tranquil cipher
#

can someone help me with sumeru exploration

strange scarab
neon harness
strange scarab
#

maybe

tranquil cipher
#

oh ok

#

ty

reef comet
strange scarab
wheat kettle
#

thank u guys opixbear5

#

arlecchino has rekindled my motivation to finish up my fontaine exploration

tame cedar
#

Is an atk goblet on arlecchino a good idea?

wheat kettle
#

HAHAH

neon harness
wheat kettle
#

pyro :3

strange scarab
tame cedar
#

Ok

#

Is 52 CR and 200 CD a good ratio?

strange scarab
#

No

strange scarab
#

you aim for 1:2

#

that is 1:4

neon harness
#

1:2 ration until 100 cr :3

strange scarab
#

200 cd 400 crit rate

glass pasture
#

Should i go for a guaranteed c2 chino guys ? Is that instant Bol worth it ??

strange scarab
#

thats for you to decide

#

do you like her a lot

#

so much that you want to invest more in her

glass pasture
#

Best pyro dps in game for me since hu tao so ya

tame cedar
#

Instant BoL is so damn worth it

#

Speaking from experience

glass pasture
#

Alright we’re going in LipBite

reef comet
#

c1 > sig > c2

glass pasture
#

Probably grab her c3 next re run

tame cedar
#

Same

frozen obsidian
#

floor 12 2nd half suggestions?

tame cedar
#

Can you run Noelleas just a shielder?

rugged sparrow
tame cedar
#

Aight

#

Is Layla good with her?

rugged sparrow
#

... with whom

tame cedar
#

Arlecchino

rugged sparrow
#

yes

tame cedar
#

Sorry I keep forgetting to mention arlecchino

#

Is beidou(that's past C1) good with arlecchino?

rugged sparrow
#

not as a shielder option but she's a fine pick in some Arle teams (depending on match up too)

jolly junco
#

the arle + chev teams dont have good defensive utility options currently

frozen obsidian
#

Ugh. I give up for now

opal surge
#

What's the issue for you?

frozen obsidian
rugged sparrow
#

the dendros to break the electro lector shields on 12-2-2, electro to break pyro+cryo shield for 12-3-2

#

can also just run national with Nahida on 4th slot for 2nd half omegalul

#

then 1st half run with whatever strong you have left

frozen obsidian
#

I'll try that one of these days

rugged sparrow
#

Nahida + national gets all the element coverage you need for 2nd half

opal surge
#

naviational thinkPeepo

rugged sparrow
#

wait no what am I smoking

#

there's no hydro shield on 2nd half, a normal national team can do just fine

#

somehow reliving 3.7 abyss

kindred dune
#

oops

elder bluff
#

I suggest bring a pyro for quick cryo shield break.
Xiangling or Thoma

reef comet
#

oops

keen willow
#

Plungetao

dapper jolt
#

How does Arlecchino's ult work, just trying to make I'm using it right

reef comet
#

use it to heal

#

simple as that

keen willow
dapper jolt
reef comet
dapper jolt
stark solstice
#

OMG GUYS GUYS!!! i finally faced the scaramouche robot boss without having anyone die!!! for the first time today!!

rugged sparrow
#

🎊 grats

stark solstice
#

i figured how to stop his one shot bomb explosive thingy

reef comet
swift forge
#

which one is better for arle ? echoes or glad ( i have no BoL set yet)

opal surge
#

just go glad prolly

#

do I buy weapon mats or mora thinkPeepo

rugged sparrow
#

all of them

#

but wait, is the weapon mat not limited?

#

that's so cheap too lol

stark solstice
opal surge
#

but you dont exactly have that many sigils left after buying out the shop anyways

#

its like ~240-250

stark solstice
#

since shop doesnt refresh i dont think

opal surge
#

These are all unlimited

#

I bought all limited things already

rugged sparrow
swift forge
limpid ibex
#

Is it okay for me to be running lynette on an atk goblet here?
I have no other anemo goblets besides the ones on Faru and Xianyun
Also who should i go for my last teammate (not bennet because he's c6'd and it'd override the infusion)

keen willow
#

Man is baptist impossible with scara😔

keen willow
#

Also furina for the last slot

earnest stream
#

iv got 74 pity will my next pull be a 5 star u guys?

limpid ibex
reef comet
earnest stream
earnest stream
reef comet
earnest stream
keen willow
reef comet
earnest stream
#

ohh ok

keen willow
earnest stream
#

rip, whats the best way for me to get primos 😿

reef comet
keen willow
#

And events

#

36 star abyss

reef comet
#

actually, buy gem

#

literally the best way possible

earnest stream
#

who wanna give me welkin fr

cedar flint
opal surge
#

Stack attack on xianyun

limpid ibex
#

I took her atk goblet and put it on lynette :/

opal surge
#

Why

#

I mean specifically for furina xianyun attack goblet should be somewhat close to anemo goblet at least, but xianyun still needs an attack goblet

#

I think when I optimized it atk was slightly worse for me but it's probably because my attack goblet was worse than my anemo

limpid ibex
#

yeah if i only have one atk goblet it should prolly be on xianyun

opal surge
#

You definitely need furina to make attack goblet good though

#

(it's the best last teammate anyway)

limpid ibex
#

unfortunately no furina

median glade
#

omaigah

reef comet
median glade
#

why kissing the whale

reef comet
#

@neon harness why

velvet ingot
quiet hearth
#

Do you guys have any idea which world quest I should do in Fontaine or do you have any list

narrow folio
#

It's nice worldbuilding and lore

neon harness
neon harness
#

No I’m not smh

reef comet
#

why automatically emote format, da hell

#

explodes professionally*

neon harness
#

My same reaction about :(remove space)D
😄

reef comet
#

why no :3

#

im sadge and madge

haughty lotus
#

;balls)

earnest canyon
#

bruh there isnt backticks ` things on ios mobile

#

\<3 for no auto emote

#

just put backslash

neon harness
#

:0

keen solar
#

@earnest canyon

neon harness
keen solar
#

Bruh

#

Sure

#

Whatever that is

neon harness
#

Use white tassle or dbane

abstract phoenix
#

heres all the character I have, im already hesitating to pull for arle or to save for furina when she will eventually rerunWhich one would benefit my account more?

keen solar
#

@earnest canyon

neon harness
#

No leaks

earnest canyon
neon harness
keen solar
#

Because ive done something

earnest canyon
#

bros ar 49 in 3 days 💀

keen solar
#

I can explain I got greedy and things were gold left and right

earnest canyon
#

what the hell

neon harness
earnest canyon
#

daymn

quaint fern
#

just get c6 surely

keen solar
#

Im out of gems

neon harness
#

Whale

earnest canyon
#

whale

keen solar
#

Im not

earnest canyon
#

99 percent of gamblers quit before the big win

keen solar
#

How do I prove im f2p

neon harness
#

You can’t

keen solar
#

Isnt it the same as Hsr

neon harness
#

🤭

keen solar
#

It is isnt it hold on

#

Im clean

slate tinsel
#

Reset in September, proves nothing

thorn scaffold
#

What are the odds from getting c6 Arlecchino from c2 ?

#

with 40k primo gem

#

42*

#

and 23 summons

slate tinsel
#

That's like what 2600 pulls

#

Doable

#

Wait nvm I'm stupid

#

That's like 280 pulls you could MAYBE do C5 if u don't lose all 50/50s

#

But C6 would need a miracle

thorn scaffold
#

I see, i think i stick with c2 than.

#

u know the increase of damge from c2 to c3?

stark solstice
#

you can just buy more summons from the shop silly

thorn scaffold
#

💀

opal surge
#

285 pulls is absurdly little to try to get 4 more cons

stark solstice
#

not really

opal surge
#

even if you win every 50/50 its not even enough unless you get earlies too

thorn scaffold
slate tinsel
#

Honestly instead of going for C3 just save to get another C2 you like

thorn scaffold
#

that u get in the end

opal surge
#

winning every 50/50 on soft pity is 300 pulls for 4 cons

stark solstice
#

dont gamble money u dont have

opal surge
#

He has primos... its not money

opal surge
#

but still your odds at c6 are super shit

slate tinsel
#

Most characters ger a considerable damage increase from C1 or C2 so fr just save for the next character you like sillygoofy

stark solstice
#

i will say shoot for c6

opal surge
stark solstice
#

could win 2 50/50s in like 20 ish pulls or 40 ish

neon wave
#

Surely

opal surge
#

The about average for c6 is 656 pulls, youre not even halfway there

stark solstice
#

you dont need to listen to these " cup half empty " people

opal surge
#

sure you could get it but mathematically speaking your odds are just shit

thorn scaffold
#

I mean i already do have end game charcters... buti would like to have some for dainsleif (asuming if he be playable) and pyro archon.

opal surge
#

I can get c6 with 100 pulls

#

from having 0 copies of her

stark solstice
#

or c6 arlecchino

thorn scaffold
#

But i stick on waiting, but how is the damge increase from c2 to c3 out of coursity ? i seen many with c3...

stark solstice
#

c3 is only first melee talent upgrade to 3?

slate tinsel
#

Don't listen to Shirose Fly, bro is instigating so you lose all your savings

stark solstice
#

i mean u dont need it that....just c6 the pyro archon bro

thorn scaffold
#

Yae and Arle is basically focused on NA no?

slate tinsel
#

You can go C3 if you REALLY want but don't try going past that unless you want to be disappointed

#

Realistically you'll either lose your 50/50s or go high pity

#

If you're just pulling on Arle because she's strong then wait because we're probably gonna get more characters equally strong anyways

#

Fontaine has been rlly good

stark solstice
#

@thorn scaffold look, most c6 on every 5star is busted...save for a c6 unit bro....c6 THE PYRO ARCHON!!

thorn scaffold
haughty lotus
#

Pull for her c1

thorn scaffold
#

300 wishes left?

stark solstice
#

weapon banner yes, only if u can lose over half your wishes

slate tinsel
#

You're guaranteed for one of the banner weapons so up to you. Lyney's weap is good for Ganyu

haughty lotus
#

More damage and some IR, it’s better than her signature

slate tinsel
#

If you love playing Ganyu then it can't hurt u

#

? Ganyu is a bow

stark solstice
#

stop letting silly nay sayers ruin the game for you! pull on weapon man

slate tinsel
#

If u don't wanna play Ganyu/don't have her or Lyney then not worth risking the limited 5* guarantee on this banner since you cant pick which one of the two

stark solstice
#

the fate points may not carry over, but pity does!!

opal surge
#

...

haughty lotus
#

Misinformation my beloved

neon wave
#

Can you stop pushing people to gamble in a gacha game

opal surge
#

common daily dose of bad advice in a help channel by shiro

stark solstice
#

can u stop being a snowflade?

thorn scaffold
neon wave
#

Lol

slate tinsel
#

Why isn't bro banned for instigating and trying to ruin people's gameplay experience

stark solstice
#

u gonna pull on weapon banner one day unless u wanna rock all 4 stars...and mihoyo will never intentionally give u a banger weapon banner

haughty lotus
stark solstice
#

ok and? i didnt mean to

haughty lotus
slate tinsel
#

Ohh so he just tries to get people in trouble 😭

thorn scaffold
#

Most people really use 4 star weapons for Arlecchino and still do decent damage, i either would saved for another DPS if i dont have or go for c1.

feral ginkgo
#

which should i use for shield in arlecchino team

haughty lotus
#

Layla

thorn scaffold
#

best option for her would be Deathmatch r5

haughty lotus
#

White tassel

feral ginkgo
#

white tassel is ur best choice as mentioned

thorn scaffold
haughty lotus
#

Sounds like they can’t spend money on the game

feral ginkgo
#

isnt that also from pass?

neon wave
#

Yea

thorn scaffold
#

Oh 🍵

#

White Tassel than r5

#

Is also rare rarity, u ptobely could easily r5 it.

stark solstice
thorn scaffold
feral ginkgo
#

when is zhongli proably coming again

stark solstice
haughty lotus
#

probs

thorn scaffold
stark solstice
#

thought u had c2?

thorn scaffold
#

I mean to qiqi, i have c2 r1

feral ginkgo
#

quit

haughty lotus
#

Marechaussee golden troupe domain

stark solstice
#

i would recommend using a 4p glad set, and if the others are fine, ( supports) then build the others if they dont use arts that can be strong boxed

slate tinsel
#

Furina domain or Emblem would benefit u most with those characters

haughty lotus
#

Yeah

thorn scaffold
#

I would get artifacts that would go trwoards more charcters than one at first.

stark solstice
#

sounds like u want end game content 0-0

slate tinsel
#

Focus on main stats + set bonus if ur builds aren't very good rn then worry about substats and such

thorn scaffold
#

Probely do 2-3 runs for Arle and use what ever there is just to have the passive stats unluck and build other charcters and come back when ever others charcter are build.

feral ginkgo
thorn scaffold
#

So more chareacters and build so easier the game becomes.

haughty lotus
dusty cape
feral ginkgo
#

oh i thought for arlecchino

#

the 4 piece buff

haughty lotus
#

For arlecchino whimsy or gladiators

#

Bolide is one of the worst sets in the game

stark solstice
#

it works

#

my source: Trust Me Bro

slate tinsel
#

Furina really doesn't synergize with Arlecchino. If you can then Arle Zhongli Xq/Yelan Kazuha is good

radiant ginkgo
#

I need help with someone's world? for arlecchino?

#

please

raw bridge
#

is this sword good ?

lime shore
#

yes

#

i think its one of the top choices for him

raw bridge
#

really ?

lime shore
#

not sure cuz i never got this dude

raw bridge
#

thanks

lime shore
#

welcome

raw bridge
#

currently running 5 star crimson witch set on him

lime shore
#

its best for him

raw bridge
#

just got to ar45 a few hours ago and got some good ones for him

rustic frost
#

Is there something I'm missing abt fav weapons? The extra energy is def a good bonus, but it feels like everyone praises these weapons aa if they're just absolutely crazy on supports or smth.

slate tinsel
#

They're crazy because of the energy lol, they're not there for personal damage they're to improve overall team performance

rustic frost
#

Well yeah ik that, but is it that much energy that it gets so much praise? Is there some kind of comparison I could see that could help me understand more?

slate tinsel
#

I mean my first question would be what's your team that you're running favonius in

rustic frost
#

Oh no I'm not using it. I just wanted to get a better idea of its actual strength. Just trying to learn more about optimizing.

wet plank
# rustic frost Oh no I'm not using it. I just wanted to get a better idea of its actual strengt...

Something to help visualize the value it brings would be:
Let's say in childe xl bennett kazuha, xiangling has 200% er reqs
This means that she gains 40 energy throughout the rotation and needs 200% er to burst off cooldown
Giving Kazuha favonius (can trigger twice per rotation on higher refines, but we can use R1 triggering once for the sake of this example) provides 3 clear particles worth 6 energy, which gives 3.6 energy to xl due to her being off field when the particles are collected
This changes the amount of energy xl gains in that rotation from 40 to 43.6, lowering her er requirements to ~183%, which is about 17% ER
This 17% ER can be redistributed to other stats like cr/cdmg/atk/em, which is about 20% cdmg or 10% cr or 15% atk or 60 em
Which means for that specific team having fav on kazuha buffs xiangling's stats by that amount (also buffs other members that have non 0 er req like childe but for simplicity sake we're only counting xl)

rustic frost
#

Ooh okay when u put it like that it sounds really good

#

And then that's for everyone too, but maybe not as much for everyone I'd assume

#

I never thought abt how it helps other teammates reach er reqs

umbral sedge
odd kernel
#

which shielder to use for lyney mono pyro

warped oracle
#

Off no bennett or Xiangling

#

Yanfei c4 works if she is

warped oracle
tardy charm
#

how do i solve this

astral sphinx
#

So for team comps for Arlecchino would it be better to run her with Benny/Xiangling/Kazuha or benny/Xiangling/Thoma?

#

or some other mix

slate tinsel
#

Shield Benny Kazuha

#

If you're doing mono

sick quarry
#

can someone help me to beat a boss like 2-3 times

slate tinsel
#

Which one

#

And which server

sick quarry
#

electro bird

#

eu..

slate tinsel
keen nexus
#

people I can't get Tailleferre to deliver the restored sheet music that comes from

empty vortex
#

is this viable on anyone cri

neon harness
#

Nari maybe, idk

strange scarab
#

aggravate fischl 🐳

bright cape
#

u can use electroganums around or beidou

tardy charm
#

yeah but the electro seelie keeps messing me up.

white glen
elder bluff
lean tree
#

i play mono pyro arlecchino should i activate c6 bennett for it 💔

neon harness
#

Why not 02shrug

mild jasper
#

i cant start where his life lies despite having completed garcia paean quests, anyone having this problem?

white glen
reef comet
#

the bennett c6 "ruins account" meme died out like 2 years ago, why do people keep asking it OMEGALUL

dusty cape
narrow folio
#

Wasn't really a meme, it was true at the time. Now it's essentially irrelevant

#

Cuz you don't need to slap Bennett everywhere in order to do damage

lavish tendon
#

How good are these?

reef comet
#

goblet is fine, feather is mid, flower is good

lavish tendon
reef comet
#

ig feather is also fine if you have no er on neuv but it's unlikely

white glen
#

wow the baptist is so easy

strange scarab
#

🐳

neon harness
dusty cape
fading holly
#

can anyone explain gilded 4peice effect but dumbed down

dusty cape
#

do reaction, if character same element as character with gilded more atk, if element different more em

strange scarab
#

Can You Dumb Down Song Of Days Past For Me

rugged sparrow
strange scarab
#

Wow So Like Clam But Instead Of Bubbles It Gives Me Buff Like Furiner

rugged sparrow
#

clam turns heal into dmg explosion
songs turns heal into dmg buff to active char

strange scarab
#

Very Overpowered

rugged sparrow
#

(the numbers are kinda mediocre to call it OP)

strange scarab
#

Because Of The Quota

frozen obsidian
rugged sparrow
#

cuz Kenki and Coppelius are gonna melt your ass with Bennett

tulip plaza
#

how's arlecchino guys? I came back after a long time, wished once and got him -_-

reef comet
#

him

tulip plaza
#

his attack patterns and animation are too good tho

reef comet
#

his

tulip plaza
#

wht?

#

her?

#

F

reef comet
rugged sparrow
frozen obsidian
tulip plaza
rugged sparrow
#

also something something dont build pity something

tulip plaza
rugged sparrow
#

true genshin player

earnest canyon
rugged sparrow
#

mf won big and regretted it HOLYFUCK

#

this is total opposite

reef comet
#

why bro regret father

swift crown
frozen obsidian
#

Man, even with nahida and yaoyao im having a hard time breaking those electro shields cri

rugged sparrow
#

F

frozen obsidian
rugged sparrow
#

uh

#

just press E on everyone agreege
but I reckon something like:
Nahida EQ > Yae EEE > Yaoyao E/Kirara EQ (assuming they have Tenacity or Nob or Sapwood or that Sumeru spear) > Fischl E or Q > Yae Q 3n1E > auto attack with Yae until Oz is out > reset rot

frozen obsidian
#

i'll try that

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i feel like my rotation is all over the place lol

rugged sparrow
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I mean you can't really fuck up the rotation

bright cape
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may be swap yaoyao to bennett/xiangling?

rugged sparrow
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ideally an anemo unit

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like Sayu or Jean for VV+heals

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and definitely not Xiangling no

bright cape
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she breaks shield very easily.

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i had to use her for lectors

rugged sparrow
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she also brings nothing to the team but sure ig peeposhrug

quaint fern
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make sure to group them as well

frozen obsidian
bright cape
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run to edge

velvet ingot
quaint fern
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nah just run to side, they group in around 10 sec

frozen obsidian
reef comet
quaint fern
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Nope

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okay well I lied

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do smth like this

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you shouldn't be able to see the far lector behind the front lector

rugged sparrow
reef comet
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i don't even group themPeepoSmile

swift crown
reef comet
haughty lotus
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Whoa

quaint fern
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who

umbral sedge
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tao

inland sphinx
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Is anyone online NA that could help me? DM please? No need to join world or anything, I just need help searching a UID to see if it's just my account or not E_HoldsGently

neon harness
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You can use enka.network for that

neon harness
inland sphinx
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Ohh thank you!

reef comet
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also thanks yunyun

inland sphinx
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If someone would be able to check just for good measure I'd appreciate it ^^

neon harness
neon harness
inland sphinx
strange scarab
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true

north stump
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Is Hu Tao now history?