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80%? but it doesn't matter much
iāve not played in a while and idk what a good team to have will be
iāve got a few 5 star weapons include amos bow for ganyu and a few skyward ones, my kokomi is C1 too which idk is good
hmmm which character do you like the most? build a team around that
idk i like ganyu but i wouldnāt mind building baal but i donāt have a great weapon for her
but honestly i enjoy all the characters i just wanna do as much damage as i can
catch is good enough
Raiden will work fine with The Catch
is she good w ganyu tho
no
no
if you want a ganyu freeze use ganyu, kazuha, kokomi, and a cryo unit to provide support and atk bonus
honestly, i think ur old team should work just well enough
i feel like you could make a nice hyperbloom team if you like using dendro traveller
zhongli would only ruin the freeze here
if you got Bennett you can play melt ganyu
i just C6d himā¦.
Remove zl for rosaria
thatās good
doesnt change anything
oh
Canāt override bows
i mean dehya would also be helpful for melt ganyu, plus there's hit resistance with her
Or Diona, instead of Zhongli
c6 only infuses melees, and not every melee's infusions can be overridden with bennett
do u have xiangling built? 
you can play ganyu Bennett dehya kazuha or ganyu Bennett xiangling zhongli
dehya works in meltyu only with kazuha or nahida
sheās level 80 but sheās not built
yes!!! i have noblesse on my diona
another fun team idea is klee, albedo, mona, benny
tenacity bot
bell would be the best option if you have ut
raiden hyperbloom feels the most comfy to play out of all 
Tbh, Melt Ganyu is a fun team
Problem is, not many Pyro characters can provide enough ranged Pyro application (Dehya does, but she's slow)
ye this is why dehya only used if nahida or kazuha are there
if you find dehya's cd for her skill to be troublesome use sacrificial
or get c2 
oh shit thats true
too broke
i wonder what'd happen if i try a burn lyney
no other better options then dehya ?
guys remember when i tried building physical lyney
Zhongli and use xiangling with Bennett
dehya can be used for a klee dps
Not like getting cons for a standard unit was ever easy (looks at the C5 Tighnari taunting me from a corner of the character roster)
he is almost good
Needs just one more push lol
yep and you will become a machine gun
I WANT TIGHNARI AND MONA PLS THEY'RE TOO CUTE
i wish i never got C1 kokomi i hate it
c1 kokomi is good if you use her in mono hydro
and that is
I'd be happy with Dehya ngl
She may feel bad to use, but idc
I've had enough with Tighnari and Mona 
babala
ganyu kokomi dayah kazuha?
I recommend getting Furina, at this point. Your Kokomi can serve her well
nope
you also can use kok in on field hyperbloom
whatās that team
yep heal dmg and hydro all in one
i just like the look of 5 stars š iāve been using bennett for a while whoās helped quite a bit
itās a koktastic team
whoās in it
Kuki is especially good for triggering Hyperbloom
ye and she can stay off field while kok do kok things
It's a solid team, especially in the Abyss
for dendro you can probably use traveler + one more
if you donāt have goathida
or other 5* dendro
They could use Collei
she should be awesome with ayaka.
i have mine benched too coz i got 0 freeze built 

until c6

c0 kok is basically the same as c5 kok
what happens at c6? 
just like how ganyu c5 = c1 in melt teams, unless you need the extra energy for shime or smth
makes this more viable
then again, this 40% hydro dmg% is less than furina
so
i guess it's basically the same as c0 
it has been kokover for a long time
it was comforting at the beginning
but i don't die a lot these days 
just extra dmg
it might be better for blooms
still more cus it will stack
ye she is my on field hyperbloomer
I might give the furina ayaka team a shot some day
she is cooking
donut š
ye Iām a devoted kokomi worshiper
It'll probably do less dmg than my current one though because I can't use shenhe (unless I go for c6 furina never happening)
kok nahida kuki yelan
understandable, have a nice day
wait doesn't nahida have to be onfield?
hmm no?
yeah I was worried about that too
why would she need to be on field
isn't that too much hydro?
i tried nahida, xingqiu, kuki. the bloom felt a bit slow with her off-field
honestly I was thinking I donāt apply enough hydro
try onfield nahida, i got so many hyperbloom procs

cus than she would trigger bloom way more often
but probably a second dendro would be cheaper 
and better too
u have to reapply nahida if enemy dies
but u will have kok on-field
so my options are traveler, c6 collei, yaoyao and c3 tighnari (not like he gonna do anything)
so fav sword with er sands ok
should be
How do NA vape patterns work? There is a hit rule or timer I forgot
I understand
3 hit/2.5s
it's the default ICD
some chars have different ICD on their talents though so 
Are NA/CA/plunge/skill/burst ICDs independent from each other usually or does it Depend
plunge no icd 
generally independent
since different tags
I see I see ty
I WAS SCREAMING KEQING BUT WHY
Certified š³ Moment
Are you playing on a school pc
should i ascend my Ar above 25 if all my characters arnt lvl 50?
i bought a cheap ass 2nd screen monitor
School pc fr
Yup, more world level means more rewards
okay thnks so much
i just got dehya, how can build her ? & can she be useful for abyss? š¤š¤
What chars could go in a team with arlenchinno?
she's not even released yet
at c0 she's generally just a "shield" support for several teams. you can try building her a DPS at c0 but generally not recommended
can check here for her specific builds for each: https://tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds
I mean based off of the currently released kit
we deadass dont know how well is she going to work with other characters
we still dont have multipliers and such thats why theres no way to tell
Aight noted
how should i level up Xingqius talents?
burst > skill
You can always look at the talent reccomendation thing in top right
Eh, it's not always reliable. Better refer to the build guide in pins
Come back after 4.6
with great considerations
Whatās wanderers best team? In saving for him
c6 Faru, c2+ Wanderer, Zhongli
or if speedrun c4 Jean instead of ZL 
maybe Furina better now idk
but ye basically just
Bennett Faru shielder
Iām going c0 wanderer c6 farm c1(hopefully getting c2) furina Bennett
u need shielder
Is a shield nessesary
yes
So Bennett faru shield
.
Is kugaras viable as a stat stick? Or do I hope to pull lost prayer soon
Thanks

The disclaimer on every message is wild


I feel like it would be counterproductive but you do you
I forget the email but you can find it quick
Also I doubt anyone but you will know the info which ACC is linked to your phone number
If you can't make a reasonable case how you forgot to CS they won't tell you either
Bro what


Should be genshin_cs@hoyoverse.com
Nobody here is getting paid but thanks for the performance review
Am I in a simulation
did i just enter wrong server?? this is genshin tavern right?
riyal
this looks something like when i dont know shit about the topic and have to write 10 marks answer on it..
why is there a schizo shitposting in a help channel
anyone have a good idea what to prioritize first when building a character?
like i want to build 5 character yet i'm pretty overwhelm by it even though i tried to prio one by one
the real problem is the day i can only build and even worse how much i need to grind for each character either from artifact or weapon or skill or level like bruh
so uh whats a good thing to prioritize first then second when building? im thinking of building the skill first but today its not available so i tried weapon which also not available
Which are the 5 characters
You want to build
atm they're "good enough" which is in level 70 and already got artifact on
but the characters are: baizhu, mona, gorou, cyno, yaoyao
oh and final thing, is level 70 already good enough or do i need to level them up to be better? most of them are usually support tho

take your time, im sorry for making it confusing xD
Most supports, and all characters want to be 80/90 ideally, whether it's worth to level to 90 depends on character
If raiden is dps or for the hyperbloom, make her 90
If normal dps then level80/90 priority her burst to level 9 or you can crown it and for skill till 9. Normal atk ignore it.
Albedo if you can make him level90
Same for baizhu level90
Bennett level 80/90 make his burst level 9 or you can crown it too.
About kuki if she is for the hyperbloom team make her level90.
For xq and fischl can go level 80. For fischl level up her skill to 8 and for xq level up his burst to 8.
Is faruzan c6?
Usually progression goes something like this: char level -> 80/90 -> relevant talents to lvl 9/10 -> weapon to lvl 90 -> artifacts
faruzan is not c6 xD
im not that rich :')
damn everyone is level 80-90 xd
uh i guess i'll go for level first then, thanks @timid oxide @opal surge
For this I will priority cyno first make him 80/90 then level up his burst to 9 and skill to 8 and then switch back to baizhu make him 80. For mona can stay at 70/80.
The idea is that you want to go for garantueed upgrades before you farm artifacts
Talentlevels weaponlevel are the biggest garantueed upgrades, and talentlevel is tied to character level
Hp scaling characters and those who trigger transformative reactions want to go 90 as they gain much from levels
Yeah , if you are low on resources then priority your main dps which you use daily basis and then go for the support which are like versatile for your team
i just pulled Kaveh, is he any good?
Hi guys! I just got back to the game and I know there's has been a lot of changes when it comes to team comp to maximize elemental reactions. Which team comp/s are best run? Below are all my rosters with their constellations. Thanks in advance! š
Should I go for either neuvilette or arlecchino can't decide this someone help
Unlike er
Can you show your characters
he's good for some nilou bloom teams and decent for hyperbloom/burgeon. very bad in a spread team tho
Build nevuelte he's above reactions

Raiden,xq,xl, Bennett
Neuv, Zhongli,fischl,kazuha
Itto,gorou, Zhongli/geo mc,flex
Ayato, kazuha,fischl,Bennett
Ayato, kazuha/sucrose,xl, Bennett
Ayaka,kazuha,koko,rosaria or
Ayaka,kazuha,mona,diona
Xiao, Zhongli, sucrose, Bennett
Al,fischl,kazuha, Zhongli
Al,xq,raiden,koko.
Build neuv first
Do you enjoy neuv gameplay?
I play him on event before but I keep getting knock fr
if you feel like you enjoy his gameplay or fun to play
Go for him
And in future get Zhongli.
If you think his gameplay is booring then go for arle
Thanks @keen willow and @timid oxide. I appreciate the help. š
Do you have Layla? Her sheild works too afaik
Hello can anyone give me two teams for Floor 9 with these characters?
Raiden, Ayaka, Kazuha, Zhongli, Ganyu, Nahida, Diluc, Bennet, Xingqiu
Thank you in advance ā¤ļø
2 teams with 9 characters only??
I mean currently these are my only well built characters
I'm just going for the quick primos
Do you have xiangling
yepp
Built
Then you can play rational one side
Nahida, diluc, ganyu/ayaka, zhongli,
Built the cryo as burst support 
And dont tell anyone i told you that team
alright tysmmm

You make a better team with those 9 characters
Ayaka hyperfridge and ganyu melt 
Ayaka nahida xq raiden
Ganyu Bennet XL ZL
If you're willing to build XL anyway
I guess Ayaka hyperfridge no healer is a bit sus
But at least you have xq
Its floor 9
That's fair
I vote for diluc burning
don't need help w/ anything, just asking around, how much hp do y'all stack on your diona?
Triple hp and thats it
that's around 35k ish, give or take?
Maybe... Idk mine never went past lvl70
i run mine with an atk goblet because i can't get a good hp one because i find it funny to do normal attacks w/ her occasionally
haven't had any problems with it so far but i'm curious how much hp she can actually get
emblem probably but if I were you I would just check the pins for the docs
Morning guys any suggestions? Team for abyss (I haven't other characters so shhh)
I respect the effort though
:blub:
Btw ideas?
Why is this all kaeyas 
I just stole it from someone else here
you would need to ask her
Just popping in here to say that you both have my respects and admiration and also, nice handwriting

So I need to use the site for every single artifacts?
Want cry someone is free and fast to do it?ā„ļø
all you need to do it put the characters into your ingame showcase (make sure it's set to visible) then type your UID into the site. you can drag all the build info from there and send a picture
cool handwriting
I forgot to back up my optimizer stuff before resetting my windows and now I have to scan artifacts again
How do I cope with this loss
Skill issue 
L
Wait people use optimizers??
I never thought about using one because its such a pain in the butt to input all the parameters but theres an optimizer that just scans your stuff???

No you scan your stuff so you can use it in optimizer
They're two separate tools but yes you take a video of your in-game artifacts and then upload it to optimizer
You still need to input some stuff manually though
But honestly once it's set up it's very handy to use
~~unless you accidentally delete your database
~~
Why am I catching strays 
i bought a controller to optimze better artiscan
it's better than wasting your apm clicking boxes
which is better? genshin optimiser compared or ingame artifact setup?
aight
How do I know if I should keep sac/fav weapons or refine them
You ask
I mean usually you refine all the sac weapons
They're bad without refinements and there aren't much characters who use them
I would keep at least 2 favs of all types except maybe codex
there are times where I wish I had 3 fav swords
Unless you have better alternatives sure
Isn't catch better than skyward spine though on xl
Oh ok thanks, and not sure if there a 4 star wepaob that is better for Bennet ?
I guess you can argue alley flash is better
Skyward blade has close base attack and er sub tho
muh ER
Can anyone help me set up 2 teams for abyss? (sorry couldn't fit all of them properly)
use battle chronicle on hoyolab instead
oh alright thanks
Hutao xingqiu yelan kazuha
Yae fischl dendro anemo
Yaoyao/kirara + sucrose would be good
Some other teams are
Sucrose xq xl Benny
Diluc xingqiu Benny sucrose/kazuha
Hutao xingqiu kazuha/sucrose Benny/amber
Sucrose xq fischl beidou
Alright thxx

Idk how i cleared first half with hutao last time
i can't do it again
just yump
I did.. i can't do it under 90 seconds this time
Too much rng of those spectres and wopperflowers
You can group whopperflowers opposite side of the room, then the next wave spawns on top of you when they die and you can kinda cheat half a rotation on it 
how the fk am i supposed to collect those
Yea like the wopperflowers group
Hey what week boss you go first?
?
Whale
Like which week boss you can fight with? The big wolf, Signiora, Childe etc?
Ik thereās alot but i have to do 3 runs
Do it accordingly to your character need
Oh
It can give you solvents and northern sword billets
If you fight any week boss
I have to do week boss every Monday bc i have been ignoring all the time while i was doing artifact farming
The 3 latest boss give the black billets
You should prioritize the ones that give talent materials of the characters you wanna level (if any)
If you've been ignoring them then you probably don't have many
Idk which are the latest bosses lol Iām guessing in Fontaine
Scara, apep and whale
It take two solvent so don't do it unless you have 100 or more solvent
It cost solvents?
Yea
Bruh fr
Kinda petty by hoyo but do we expect more
I just need 4 northern sword billets for R5 amenoma
I still canāt get any via week bosses
There is other ways to get it is by trees from each nation
R1 is fine for now
You can do exploration and level up Sakura tree, onion tree and fountain and lastly you get billet from Underground chasm too
Thatās what I was doing Iāve been collecting chests and doing trials using the IWM
I have to do it on PC bc is easy to use and play with both monitors
Yea i would cry
To get to level 50 Sakura tree I have to 100% every island in Inazuma
You don't
Ah ok
I want to aim at level 40 fine cuz i want to unlock something
@timid oxide Iām at level 30+ Sakura tree so do you know which level I can obtain a northern sword billet? The 40ās are blank I canāt tell what Iām going to obtain
only sword billet is at 4
after that there are others only
That was it
yep
Wow
Iāve been doing still no luck so hopefully I get luck today
do u have black one?
if u have midlander sword billet, u can convert it to northlander
R1 is enough
Alrighty
Also can I go with Shenhe burst at level 8 or leave at the current level?
Making sure before I ruin my account even more
What's her skill level?
whats this thing he doesnt kill me
8
Yeah do it level 8 burst
Alr I have enough resources according to my planner
I shouldnāt have said that
dude does it drop if i kill it
I mean before i level up any talent lol
Why I got another northern claymore billet š
Skill issue
Should I get arle weapon, if I get another one of lyney bow I will die, but if I get his weapon he can finally abandon prototype, or I could wait for her rerun
Kelp

Yeah pull, I only hope you get r3 lyney bow
My xiao circlet hurts fr....i ve been searching for ages and nothing is there anything i could do like the sands or smth?
You could try to go for on set sands and off pieces the circlet
I m still kinda low ar i dont have much but i do have offpeice critrate cirlet
27%crit dmg
And 20%crit dmg sand on set
Well just try to get on piece sands
You're just trying to off piece the worst on set
Id probably try that
Send the enka card for that here
This is how much shield my level 70 Layla has right now i imagine that's bad?
Here
Get r5
You think skyward spine will be good to farm up for alechhino?
I have that wavebreakers dragons bane or i can get the battle pass weapon
We don't know her scaling
Come back after 4.6
this looks like way better build than the previous one tbh
I think this is better
Just make sure to lvl your weapon to 90 and Xiao to 80/90 when you can
Well which one would be best in genral assuming she scales off hp
I forget, is he CR OR CD ascension?
Xiao relies HEAVILY on critting on his plunges and 87 might seem like a lot but I can assure you thats a very balanced ratio you got there hella good for xiao
Just wait until she comes out bro
cr
Well compared to some other on fielders, he doesn't particularly care about having super high crit rate (any more than others)
Do the boxes from the battlepass go to your inventory or do you need to select on the bp screen
Fund me
you need to select the rewards
For nuke characters like eula, you can always just crit fish, but for some people like ayaka with shenhe, I'm very particular with as much CR as possible because you really don't want to miss crits on your very few quill boosted burst ticks
Fuc u
I can't hold onto the rewards in my inventory?
But I think what you're trying to say is that the new ratio is a lot more balanced, which I agree with
@giantdad.1
you can claim and let them sit
Is that even pinging you? It's not blue
Epic ping fail
wait wut this is a thing???
Okay idk why mobile client is not pinging you LMAO
Thanks you too
I assume they're talking about the boxes right?
Idk if you can hold weapon boxes though, I've never bought BP
yeh the boxes for the the talents
If you're considering fjord, I would just wait until the actual patch goes live so we can see scaling
Ask Aya 
Dbane will only be good if she needs the EM, spine will be good if she needs the energy and is atk scaling (high base atk on spine), wave breaker also has a lot of atk (so good if atk scaling) the passive on it may or may not be useful depending on how good her burst is
As far as we know, the burst will only refresh her skill or smth
Fjord will probably be good no matter what, but how much better than other options, we don't know
you donāt get hurt from obtaining a bow
However, I don't want to tell you to go spend money if it ends up just being like within 5% of some other options you have
i got amos and nothing happened
^^^^ you will only be taught a valuable life lesson
Gib me
Who's the fastest trounce domain
Just be a chad an buy Arle's weapon
Childe probably
Storm terror has longer animations

right, get my 2nd copy
š now I'm only 2 away from r5
I think this is the one time i get the battlepass so i can have 3 multis
I have a hard time claiming BP tbh cause I dont even need the weapons but the rewards tho are deff worth a BP unlok
@umbral sedge fund me pls
Suc
Full EM build Navia??
Dante is rich whele 
^
Smh
ā
Dante is a model irl
^
Ik im in their walls rn 
ok
Mist ayaka?
with mistsplitter yeah
she has like 21 crit rate rn but like i think it cancels out to 1:2 with freeze and cryo res
r1 mistsplitter only tho
Try to get more cr
annything above R1 is expensive anyways
TIME TO PLAY ABYSS ON A CONTROLLE
abyss on controller is better
because you have the sword of descension passive 
on playstation at least
I play Genshin exclusively with an Xbox controller on my PC lol
Ive tried playing with keyboard and mouse and to be honest it feels too janky
aiming on controller is hell tho low key
I avoid characters like Ganyu that need a very accurate charged attack shot for this reason lol
yeh its hard AF to hit sometimes
KB+M is your solution lol
NEVER
don't u have to setup genshin to recognize controller everytime?
at least that's the way on ipad
nah on PC it insta recognizes cause I use an Xbox controller
you just gotta turn on your xbox controller before you enter the world
oh nice.
on ipad i had to go to settings and setup control type every time
sometimes i don't see timmie on the bridge?
is he only available on specific time of day?
I think he's only there when it's bright out
hes like the flora girl
I have Raiden, Nahida, Kokomi, Kazuha team, will Kokomi's lvl and EM matter much? or she just applies hydro and heals and that's it
I have EM on Kazuha and Raiden and Nahida
kazuha feels out of place there
if u r going for hyperbloom
in hyperbloom, kokomi's EM doesn't matter
raiden's mostly matters
Can some tell me if domain counts toward area exploration progress
really? he groups enemies, he is c2 gives everyone em mastery, he decreases the res with vv, he gives elemental damage boost, he also applies the element he swirls
oh. in that case, it's ok
There's no aim assist on genshin for controller why not switch over to kbm 


itās janky to play controller on big t
still most of damage there is single target.
swirling might be difficult if enemies have dendro aura.
IF you have c2 kazuha, then heās useful
the vv doesnāt change anything because kokomi and raiden hb donāt build crit
ok so im not sure if im just being stupid or not but i was using hydroculus resonance stones to try figure out which hydroculus i was missing and its saying that im missing this one but its just not there
this is like the only one near the arrow though and i checked all the other ones in the circle and i had all of those
I mean I don't see that the circle has gone away so it must be another one 
i dunno cus the arrow is pointing to that one and im pretty sure it points to like the one youre missing right
the arrow in the circle indicates the elevation of where the stone is, once your nearby it'll disappear and the little star for it will usually appear on the mini map
if I'd have to guess it must be on the land or farther up in the water
i just got r5 fav greatsword.
suggest me some good support dehya teams
i was thinking of neuv teams. i don't think ToTM helps neuv.
ganyu,xl,dehya,bennett
ganyu,dehya,nahida, bennett
hutao,xq/yelan,kazuha,dehya
Hutao,xq,yelan,dehya
thanks. 
healer dehya when
you can also try neuv,furina,kazuha,dehya
i was thinking the same
dotted circle indicates that you're not in the same layer of area as the hydroculus
it can be any of these two
@strange scarab why is kqm a banned phrase in maincord ICANT
may be they see it as a competitor to their new build recommendation system in-game
i was shocked to find out unofficial map banned there 
what's melus doing???!!!!!!!!??
melus's hand is 90 degree away from him being cancelled....
š
They did that with teppei as well
ayo really...
Another maincord W
if anything they would never recommend the in game build rec feature
pretty sure it has something to do with rule 7 as well. since everyone can submit pics on the unofficial ones, people tend to post anything even images unrelated to the pins
apparently someone was TCing with unreleased content
ah. ok. that makes sense
is there anyone need help in Asia sever?
they should ban twitter too 
i'm just bored
okay, sorry, my mistake
me vro
Reddit too 
how long did you wait for the notes to pop up...
read what is on top center

5 minutes
Close the game, close the launcher
and relaunch the game I got bugged out in the Aranaka quest too
you need to do certain Aranara quests to unlock certain music sheet
if you can't perform the music yet, means you haven't done that specific quest
check wiki
or just do them all
thats the other quests that the book indicates to me
Agnihotra Sutra
that the quest?
no its a brand of car
yes it is a quest name what else could it be
checked its the exact quest i cant progress because of the same problem
notes dont show up
use Kusava gadget
use the yellow aranara power to fix the monument
is this good flower for neuvilette?
looks good if there is nothing with better crit value
how much er do i need
what weapon are you using
sacrificla jade
and whats the full team?
uh idk yet
Is 1 min 20 sec killtime with neuvillette on 12-3 1st half good or bad?
Team: neuvillette venti fischl diona
Yes , my main team sweep that one. Though need 1 reset to accidental nuking
I been wondering for a long time, why do fontaine characters' orb underwater glows in gold? Does it make any difference?
as Neuvilette, you have the Pneuma alignment
Fontaine characters (and Traveler) have their Arkhe alignments
it means you donāt need to get their respective arkhe block
ohh you mean the ousia and pneuma block mechanisms like this?
š why did I procrastinate on this event Iām on try 50 and heās still killing me by breathing on me
How TF do u beat this guy
š
dont even ask me how long it took me to kill the final boss
that guys patterns are basically triple melee attack, dash attack, or leaping attack
what I would recommend is that you forget about dodging his dash or leaping
whenever you see him do an animation, jump and dash right behind him
that enemy type cannot respond to that
in general, the AI is not smart enough to respond to manuevers like that
āļøāļøāļøāļø
jump dash. go behind his back and hit him couple of times
rinse and repeat
u can also pogo carefully like in hollow knight
what is that?'
webevent
oh does it has primogems
no it gives you a hoyolab border 
...
I think I wasted like 4 hours on that
like, if you dash in too early you'll take dmg even though the atk has already happened
that's because the attack "lingers" for a little bit
same
later i found a hoyolab article. got few buffs i had missed
and defeated raiden
game gets easier later on
every attack pattern in it is taken from hollow knight lol
I've never played hollow knight
Yeah I didn't even know we had atk buffs
So I was getting destroyed by Lyney tent challenges
one of the hoyoverse devs played hollow knight 
hey fren
Hello, could someone show me a good kazuha build? I need a reference what to build upon(f2p weapon tho)
pretty good in aggravate team ye
Xiphos is not easy to get so you can use any EM weapons (Iron String, for example). just stack more ER
What about neuvillette team?
Oh wow, why did I think CD and CR were important
imagine this but with xiphos
CR is only important if you're using Favonius (which is a good option if you have it)
Teams for floor 12?
weren't you given one few days ago

Furina/Neuv/anemo/shielder
any strong sgt team (Raiden nat, Tighnari team, etc)
So for Tigh: Nahida, Tigh, Fischl, EM Kuki.
or
Raiden Yelan, XL, Benny?
I need sayu for first half
eh sure
Aight lets try this then
Also how does aggravate teams work? Do you want a lotta EM or what
but either of the two team you mentioned works just fine yeah
2nd team kinda š¤ for 12-3-2 cuz shieldbreak is annoying though
oop right
you just need to balance out offensive stats
crit too?
yes
just treat agg/spread DPS like you would a vape/melt DPS (good amount of EM, crit, etc)
So no EM Kuki and Nahida?
dependsā¢ļø
Nahida's passive warrants you to build 1k EM (or close to) on one char in the team
if Kuki goes full EM then Nahida can go EM/Dendro or EM/Crit instead of triple EM
which should be your go to tbh considering Kuki doesn't offer much in that team other than heals+utility
hmm okayy
well alternatively just run Raiden national
overload can deplete the geo shield in 12-3-2
since it's a heavy attack
Prolly should use a crate circlet haha
yes
OH? Had no idea! Thankss
@unkempt river
Oh wow.
Here I am breaking that sheild with Kuki 
None of the rational charas are there hahaha
old msg so he probably already changed

plunge spam galore
yeah hahaha, Mona in that team tho?
yeh just a new Tighnari team variant I'm trying
and actually pretty addicting
not something I'd recommend to average ppl though
I got a C3 Mona, should I build her? haha
entirely up to you
How come?
feels kinda wrong to recommend 
As long as she makes the team better haha
Why, if it works it works 
well Mona's debuff works well for Tighnari since he can frontload his combo within the Omen burst window
and she applies a fairly controlled amount of hydro to maintain quicken uptime while providing some cores for Kuki to hyperbloom
the quicken uptime on the team is 80% based on what george checked (regardless of your Kuki constellations)
hmm
idk how that team performs on low investment tbh since my Nahida is c2r1 and Tigh is c1r1 but 
Woah, alrightttt
though it shouldn't be that much worse considering it takes me ~25s (after shield break) to kill the boss
maybe around 40-60s (not counting shield break) for lower invest
How is she still not having enough energy after a rotationnnn
fav
enough crit rate to proc it?
26...
It's pretty cracked 
iirc Sayu needs to hold her skill for like 1-2s to get bigger particles
How cracked we talkin here haha
Has 2 or 3 cons too
obv
Lemon whel
PJWS with very good ratio
This is mine haha
That's perfectly fine, I was able to clear with c0 on Fav
on Favvv???
Fav Raiden baaaaaat
waaa
I have noooooo polearms
unironically it's a good weapon on her
if you don't have anything else
Catch on XL, Fav Raiden 
My Xiangling's pretty solid so it works
with gcsim standards (using KQMC), Raiden nat sheets the highest when Raiden uses 4p totm + Fav
which is 
would do the opposite haha
nah, Raiden dmg share (at c0) on that team is especially meh
totm?
tenacity
yo, can I log in on someone's world? I just need to yoink 2 golden koi for free polearm
oh, mb
or try the official one instead
EU? Join me: 761948897
im on asia unfortunately
ouf
Should rlly work on my national core... How much does a fine XL burst hit for? And what abt XQ burst? How do I know when my Benny's well built?
Benny just needs enough ER to burst every rot (which should be easy with Raiden)
then just high talent lv on burst + high base atk weap
Got sapwood haha
hi OXD
XL should be hitting like idk, 30k+? 
no idea about Xq
I've said before that gunning for specific damage threshold shouldn't be your goal
hi
my xq does like 5k per tick? little less, like 4.8
and my level 70 xiangling does 36k
and this is not a team with raiden
Yeah you have. But I need to know how much more I can improve their dmg. If I alr do enough dmg there isn't a point to invest more than to build my other charas imo
so use that information as a reference or don't
I've said before that gunning for specific damage threshold shouldn't be your goal
because your dmg fluctuates depending on team variations and enemies too
lemme just check your XL and Xq real quick via enka ig
^listen to the smart guy @unkempt river
Xl ain't there atm. Their C rate is low
Yeah ik. But comparing to other rational team dmgs? But if that's an issue I'll stop ig. Going for that 1:2 ratio and enough ER first then
yeh go for that
just look up some random person's national gameplay and go off their dmg numbers if you want a reference
XL also needs a good balance on her EM/crit ratio/ER
NIH pubchem is down so i cant finish my hw š
rip
Forgot abt the EM need, how much approx?
use this builds as references (except you're gonna want to have your xiangling leveled more with higher talents and r5 catch instead of r2)
ooh pubchem up again 
EM sands is default for her on Rational
then she ascends with EM too
then a couple EM subs maybe 
then if you wanna minmax, 4p Instructor's
wait huh, instructors? Not emblem? I've foddered all instructorsss
what? are we not doing noblesse benny anymore? what happened to that
yeh that's fine
depends on team but Instructor is generally the best set for him if you're playing reactions
though it's just minmaxing territory so you shouldn't sweat it that much
i run sucrose so i think the atk is more important
nah XL really likes EM
especially because i have almost 300 EM already and i am levl 70
because all her attacks can vape
so my atk dogwater
and Benny already gives up to 1.3k atk
that puts me at 2.3k
EM / Pyro Dmg / Crit?
idk how true this is now but my friend optimized his old XL and the optimizer just gave her 500-600 EM build or smth 
but i have 500+ EM considering sucrose buff though
why is pubchem not fucking working bruh
do you know the melting point of ethanol off the top of your head OXD
Melting? 
I'm not a science guy
I dont think liquids melt
it still has a melting point
i have to cite my source and pubchem isnt working
it has a freezing point, not a melting point, surely
nah its melting point will just be far above room temp
-114.1°C - "Wikipedia"
wikipedia doesnt work my TA will leave my body in a ditch
Same thing
yeah, its just since its base state liquid its a freezing point, rather than melting point usually
if its base state solid its a melting point rather than freezing
it's the point where over or under the subtance freezes or melts
my chem teacher is this scary eastern european lady with a thick accent
actually maybe this distinction doesnt even exist depending on langauge idk
I guess in german both sides of the coin is called melting point
Okay then. Go with a random guy from Discords chem book
aus gov came in clutch š
they have a page with all the info for some reason
It works?
im not even australian
ah
here I thought aus = Austria
no
I'm not that far into rational optimization
What's Austria then
meh
yeh it's just something funny that I encountered


how can i build jean as a dps at ar 30ish ? :)
uh, you generally don't
@jolly junco 
that's not him
so useful ty!!!!!šššš
guys is there like a website that has the best teams for the current abyss?
not really
you can find usage rates but that doesn't make those teams the best, it just means they're used more often
i see
neuvillette + furina first half and perhaps navia 2nd half is the best this abyss
i dont have those chars...
only nv i have

neuv, furina, kazuha, flex (e.g zhongli) 1st half
navia, chiori, bennett, xiangling/fischl 2nd half
if I had to select the two best teams this abyss 12
How to crit...
how can i substitute furina...
how is that possible
i dont know....
why is hu tao left at lv 80
no mora
yea but abyss changed
it just reset
ye
bro...
is it geo abyssal moon yet again?
no its you get bonus na/ca/plunge dmg when ur team has swirl
i need more cr...
so its better for me to use xiao then?

i mean you can try it 2nd half
i dont see faruzan tho
for xiao she is very good yes
she's not an absolute must with xiao though, people still used him pre faruzan
am one of them
xiao sucrose zhongli bennett 
Without constellations she feels pretty clunky
At C6 absolutely great option
Just don't understand why C6 wasn't part of the base kit ngl
Not the anemo crit DMG boost I mean her burst firing off skill
Money
Sad
I mean i have c6 y'all keep malding 
i cant find last 6% in sagonomiya where can they be
maybe mora boxes
i checked all of them
hmmm maybe some hidden chests
nvm these wierd symbol i think is it
donāt worry, thereās always the official release
there is no island called sangonomiya
only enkanomiya
of course its a pain to explore, the island doesnt even exist vro
nvm it called watasumi
what a typo of all time
I want to explore sangonomiya too
if you know what I mean

Seeya
haro everynyan
Hi, Guoballs.
hawa yu
ok.
i feel like shit
maybe I can give furina key?
Key is a hella good sword for Furina to be fair anyways
Its just fashion wise it looks like a complete freakin abomination
problem is that I'm off piecing the goblet
and my on set hydro goblet only has 13 CR
I need a Hydro bonus Goblet too 
I don't use her in abyss clears so it doesn't really matter but
But because i have pretty good stat on my HP goblet haven't bothered
I guess I'll check optimizer later
Isnt hp goblet just as good for furina
with these subs on my goblet its going to be hard to get a hydro goblet that matches tbh
What are the cons
c2
What are the pros
hp
also, apparently ToTM is just as good as GT some times?

thats pretty sus
Furina is such a character i love her rerun in 4.6
If you're buffing an atk scaling character surely.... but even then its kinda sussy
idk that's what I was hearing on the maincord help channels
Probably some low investment kqm standard bullshit
i mean if furina is underinvested
maybe?
idk, I found it kind of sussy as well but I didn't want to ask them
they were using gcsim for their stuff
(I think)
they're the same ones that blurt out crit weapons are the enemy and they don't add anymore value to a build other than raising the minimum Crit bar lol
Yeah, all of them use gcsim lmao
i mean crit weapons do only add crit value to the build
Guys should i lvl up xiao to lvl 90 or 80/90 is enough
just like ER weapons only raise minimum ER bar
I didn't even know you could use gcsim to see stat targets wwww
i've just used it to see dps distribution
@coral vortex 80/90 is fine
If you really love your Xiao yes
No doubt its just I mentioned that in some cases atleast in the early artifact grind its a nice crutch to get a workable CR/CD ratio where was with a non crit weapon youre going to be spending a lot more time balancing the ratio
I'll check with key on optimizer later but I'm already quite happy with my build
And some dude flamed me saying no clue what im talking about
non crit weapons also have offensive stats
theres no minimum crit value a build has to have its just about balancing offensive stats
Not saying it applies to everything just that hey sometimes crutches help lol
the issue with key is that I don't use any furina teams where key's em buff would be useful... maybe I should pull baizhu so I can try bain-marie 
balancing ratio is cool but only applies to crit rate weapon, crit damage weapons actually make ratios worse
since crit rate and damage are completely off balance to begin with
thats a hard goblet to replace even if you get cons lol just like me!!
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yo guys with the currents characters i have who should i pull in the next banner update?
frina or nida
next banner doesnt have those tho
its lyney arlecchino wanderer and baizhu
You donāt need any of them
If you want one of them then sure, your account is strong enough. But they arenāt upgrades
Baizhu is good for cyno but youād still prioritize nahida
Hu Tao 90 and level xiangling
ok ty
I wouldnāt bother with her unless you get nahida
Arle if you enjoy her gameplay or just wait for furina rerun banner
I really want to improve her, so what should I focus on? 
CR is assume and getting more atk?
abyss chat?
ig its here
my question is how do I defeat those? can shield stop bond of life. does lady enemies are so questioning me
Veteran frost operative and veteram wind operative
i have an ayaka team and a yoimiya team
idk which team to use on which hald becausei dont know how the enemies work or their weaknesses
Ayaka first half and yoimiya 2nd then, if you only have those teams, you canāt freeze a boss
yea but for little time
i hate those frost/wind operatives
but wait its in their name frost and wind operative
does that mena they have higher DEF in cryo and anemo?
dont worry the third chamber has icewind suit
neither ayaka nor yoi can clear first half all chambers comfortably
ayaka first 2 chambers and redo and clear chamber 3 with yoi is probably the best optoin
unless your ayak is decently invested and can actually kill coppelia
then ayaka needs oty be seocnd half? you know what you saying orr?





