📌gimshim-help

[nova swift]

you have to blow them up all at the same time

[tardy charm]

but how. when i try it doesn’t work

[nova swift]

You're missing one then

[tardy charm]

idk what location to put the like bomb thing so it blows up all of them

[haughty lotus]

close to the middle, you can also use your rope attack if you missed one

[latent flicker]

is hyperbloom that strong?

[haughty lotus]

if you have nahida its quite good

[latent flicker]

i do but i dont have her built

[strong kite]

This abyss sux. Send help

Roster

[gray oxide]

Damn

What even went wrong here

The 2 teams look good enough to clear

[strong kite]

I dunno tbh

[neon harness]

id remove furina for fischl if yae is onfield

[haughty lotus]

do yae fischl sucrose yaoyao first half

[strong kite]

Hold on lemme find the build showcase

[reef comet]

everything here is underleveled

[strong kite]

Im playing quickbloom

[haughty lotus]

very cope with yae, and you dont have enough healing for furina

[neon harness]

[strong kite]

I don't think I'm having more healing with this

[haughty lotus]

i dont think you have furina with it either

[reef comet]

:eyebrowing:

[strong kite]

She can heal though?

[haughty lotus]

furina's buff needs a lot of healing

[reef comet]

let them cope until they can beat abyss

[shadow lynx]

THATS HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT

[reef comet]

caps

[shadow lynx]

guides are for wussies real OGs figure it out themselves

[reef comet]

real ogs are mfers who made the guide

[strong kite]

I'm listening but I honestly can't get past 12-2 without furina's healing

[neon harness]

[haughty lotus]

furina isnt a healer

[strong kite]

The pyro aura and geo earthquake thing is too strong

[reef comet]

because all of your characters are underleveled

[haughty lotus]

I wouldnt even attempt it if all my characters were that low of lvl

[strong kite]

Yes I just use her her heal to limit the net health loss

[shadow lynx]

If you want to do better you need to listen to the sauce

[strong kite]

Sure gimme sauce :3

[shadow lynx]

C6 R5 every 5 star

[strong kite]

Uh

[haughty lotus]

thats a significant dps loss, either bring a teamwide healer (yaoyao isnt enough) or dont play furina

[strong kite]

Wallet issue

[strong kite]

So bring sucrose?

[shadow lynx]

Just based on what I see you either need to ditch Dendro and find another team comp or level up all your characters in the dendro team

[haughty lotus]

.

[shadow lynx]

character level is SUPER important for dendro teams

[strong kite]

Ok

It's just

[haughty lotus]

lvl 90 yae and fischl
lvl 80 bennett xingqiu xiangling

[strong kite]

i really wish i could level them up

[haughty lotus]

where did they even go lol

[shadow lynx]

condense the resin and do fokin leylines

[strong kite]

idk tbh

[strong kite]

ah about that...

[neon wave]

You don't even have that many characters leveled

[haughty lotus]

where did you waste all your resin

[strong kite]

maybe artifacts i guess

[shadow lynx]

I mean condense daily resin

and do enough leylines to getlvl 80/90 ATLEAST

[strong kite]

ah ok!

[neon wave]

Just do leylines for a few weeks lol you have a lot of leveling to do

[molten lily]

Is it worth it to do all the weekly bosses each week?

[shadow lynx]

atleast 3, more if you need the materials

[neon wave]

Not really
I just do 3 personally

[strange scarab]

even if i already got tons of mats i still do it

[strong kite]

https://enka.network/u/628016584/ my builds

[shadow lynx]

I really gotta get the last ascension for Benny/Xing/Kuki but its soooo much resin for the moss mats

[shadow lynx]

to be fair you could probably do better if the builds had better artifacts but at AR54 thats kinda a tall task

[strong kite]

I mean... Is the sets and main stats alright at least

Cuz I'm 100% not farming artifacts until I get the levels right (as you guys have said)

[shadow lynx]

Not knocking on the subs a lot because at AR54 chances are you haven't had enough time on the artifact domains to get "optimized" builds

At some point everyone figures out they could have invested into XYZ better but the important thing is atleast now you have a better idea

so you're not just burning resin just to burn it

[strong kite]

Also emblems refuses to give me ER sands for some reason

[haughty lotus]

yae - attack sands
raiden - attack sands
xiangling - switch weapon (either favonius raiden, catch xiangling or catch raiden dragonsbane xiangling)
bennett - needs sapwood blade

level 90 every weapon

[strong kite]

Alright thanks 😄

Lemme copy it down real quick

[strong kite]

Yeah I think I'm not at that point yet, but still it's probably a better priority to get guaranteed improvement through levels and talents( I kinda learnt this the hard way as you guys saw ;_;)

[shadow lynx]

@haughty lotus haven't seen the charts but how much of a difference does 80/80 > 90/90 make for Benny/Xing/Kazu I could probably get their last ascension if I ditch a week of artifact farming but contemplating the worth it factor

[opal surge]

just do it

[haughty lotus]

kazuha is big so do it. others depend on you https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1euSTWwzaPYwyuGAAoAXQTKx_9z3e5OzRxlp293xUGcI/edit#gid=1633665542&fvid=608069118

[shadow lynx]

Ok yeh Kazuha is anywhere from like 13 to 30 % bruuuuuh

[round sentinel]

does 80 and 90 matter

[reef comet]

the chart literally above you

[umbral sedge]

💀

[round sentinel]

i see it now

[round sentinel]

the green indicates that its worth it and red is not?

[round sentinel]

really useful thanks

[round sentinel]

u have the pity website.

[haughty lotus]

no

[reef comet]

paimon.moe

[opal surge]

Note that the sheet compares 80/90 to 90, the difference is often bigger if you're not fully ascended since you can't fully level your talents

[tardy charm]

approximately where should i place the bomb?

[strange scarab]

right in the center of the room

[tardy charm]

i do that but it doesn’t seem to work

should i do it on the floor or floating

[sterile ruin]

do all versions of the traveler have the same basic atk scaling?

[tardy charm]

… nvm i figured it out

[elder bluff]

place on floor, detonate it, then hit the one not on floor yourself

[sterile ruin]

i notice that our tavern fellow has VN role

[neon harness]

Lumine and aether basic attack scaling are different but idk about difference in elements

[sterile ruin]

who has higher scaling between the siblng?

[neon harness]

Wait, it was either lumine attacks faster or lumines charged attacks scale higher

[sterile ruin]

ooh slay

[umbral sedge]

aether faster tho

[neon harness]

Thanks babagu

[neon harness]

Lumine prettier

[umbral sedge]

[neon harness]

Sussy I didn’t get to see the edit

[sterile ruin]

i checked and different elements have the same na scalings

[strange scarab]

one is faster than the other

[haughty lotus]

like you

[strange scarab]

https://fxtwitter.com/PaimonaUwU/status/1769013771346079773?t=o-uRMYS5aJG2nOYo04IxLg&s=19

Wow... Guobillette

oratrice balls

[latent flicker]

i jsut did floor 11 with this team and i do not know why it worked halp

i always suffer doing floor 11 and 12 why did this work

[haughty lotus]

floor 11 is quite easy

[latent flicker]

for you maybe

[haughty lotus]

you dont need much more than a lvl 90 built alhaitham

[strange scarab]

bro floor 11 is always piss easy

[latent flicker]

for you maybe

[haughty lotus]

[strange scarab]

no its not 😂

its for everyone

[haughty lotus]

you can run almost any semi functioning team in floor 11, floor 12 is where you have to start picking teams based on the enemies that show up

[latent flicker]

yeah sorry forgot people dont touch grass regulraly

[haughty lotus]

mfw

[strange scarab]

or maybe they just dont suck at something so easy 😂

i mean the reason why you struggled in floor 11 in the past is probably bc you came up with teams like that

[umbral sedge]

believe it or not, have decent builds, somewhat ok skills -> can easily clear floor 11

[olive isle]

having game mastery is not just beneficial for your builds and optimization, but can also even clear the most content of what hoyo offers

in other words: literacy solves quite a lot

[strange scarab]

[sterile ruin]

me and my Itto - Kuki team

[haughty lotus]

itto hyperbloom

[sterile ruin]

and an unbuilt noelle for shield

and ofc, gorou

[sterile ruin]

i slapped everything def on her

2pc 2pc

[haughty lotus]

still bad shield uptime and 0 particles

[neon harness]

Genshin players can’t read tho 😔 what a tragedy

[strange scarab]

how does one achieve such feat called reading

[reef comet]

unilliterate themselves

[olive isle]

where’s the attention span when we need it

[haughty lotus]

wtf is this?? no subway surfers??

[reef comet]

[swift crown]

am i stupid or something because i can't find the last 2

[elder bluff]

you need to make potions with different efficacies

[crimson elbow]

as a geo enthusiast, if i already own albedo navia itto zhongli, will chiori actually do anything new/better for me?

[shadow lynx]

In a Zhongli/Itto team she'd probably be a good off field damage dealer, with Navia its kinda wonky without C1

[elder bluff]

replace albedo

[crimson elbow]

is she just slightly higher damage albedo

[strange scarab]

nah it works just fine

[rugged sparrow]

not "slightly" but ye

[strange scarab]

its an upgrade over zhong in terms of damage

for navia team*

[crimson elbow]

alright, chiori skipped then

[shadow lynx]

she's hawt tho so worth considering

[crimson elbow]

eh

[zenith thicket]

Best artofact set for dos barbara

A d team

And*

[strange scarab]

none hehe

[shadow lynx]

DPS what?

[zenith thicket]

Dos barbara

[crimson elbow]

two barbaras!?

[zenith thicket]

Dps

[strange scarab]

damage oer second

[shadow lynx]

what kind of flaily ass DPS is that

[crimson elbow]

tres barbara when

[shadow lynx]

Barbara is a MAIDEN not a DPS

[zenith thicket]

Hush

[strange scarab]

*deaconess

[rugged sparrow]

it's just WT most of the time and you vape all your CAs

[zenith thicket]

WT

[rugged sparrow]

Wanderer's Troupe

[zenith thicket]

So like barbara national?

[crimson elbow]

the brain says hyperbloom but the heart says vape

[rugged sparrow]

that's her only "DPS" team

well another is Nilou bloom and triple EM but

[strange scarab]

the goat

[zenith thicket]

oh nice i alr have national team

[elder bluff]

you can use HoD or OHC over wanderer's troupe

[strange scarab]

sodp where

[zenith thicket]

Ohc

[strange scarab]

ocean hued clam

[zenith thicket]

What was the other set in the ohc domain?

[rugged sparrow]

Husk

[strange scarab]

husk of opulent dreams

[zenith thicket]

Damn, is there like any team that could use shimenawas resistance im trying to cope

[rugged sparrow]

Shime uptime is garbage but you're free to use it

[zenith thicket]

I know but at least the substats arent all flat defense unlike eosf

[valid kite]

I am trying to unlock this area in serpent's heart, but it won't work. I know that I have to go through the gates in the order of the sigils, but it's not doing anything.

I have tried SEVERAL times.

[round sentinel]

thats the website for pity?

[strange scarab]

https://youtu.be/IBqeUYfaSOo?feature=shared

[valid kite]

thank you!

[strange scarab]

youtube:

[valid kite]

uh... nothing happened again

[reef comet]

pity for what

[elder bluff]

there are several orders available in that place, some requires you to see the order first

[round sentinel]

banners

[valid kite]

my treasure compass is pointing underground, but I have no idea how to get there.

[strange scarab]

theres a waterfall down below have you checked that

[round sentinel]

they have to add a shovel

[reef comet]

just check the website, the stat should be correct, the only way to make it wrong is incorrect input but no way people will do it, they're lazy asf

[valid kite]

oh? I didn't know of that

[round sentinel]

what website, i dont know

[reef comet]

what else

[valid kite]

where is said waterfall

[round sentinel]

exactly i dont know the website i havent played the game for so long

i forgot what website to use whatsoever

[strange scarab]

https://youtu.be/dl4aBLwp0O8?feature=shared
chapter 2

[reef comet]

pity for this game is to be said a lot, just check whatever website

[valid kite]

ahh, thank you!

[reef comet]

like correct or wrong doesn't matter, it's just your luck

[round sentinel]

im confused.

im asking for a website because i dont know one

there used to be a website for pity counter i just forgot its name

[reef comet]

literally paimon.moe

the only website i mentioned

[round sentinel]

thank you

its safe to use?

holy fuck i dont know how to use this website i thought by pasting my uid it will detect

[tardy charm]

how do i unlock this chest?

[reef comet]

how will using uid detect your history

[reef comet]

solve the puzzle

[tardy charm]

i activated the three electro things but idk wjat else

[reef comet]

use unofficial interactive map

[strange scarab]

[proud merlin]

what would be a good (insert whatever the dendro x electro x hydro reaction name is) team be?

[strange scarab]

who do you have

[proud merlin]

ummm lemme send pic

these characters

[strange scarab]

hyperbloom is generally nahida xingqiu Raiden full EM build and another dendro/sucrose

[proud merlin]

that makes sense i’ll utilize my c6 sucrose. thank you!!

i forget what team bonus double dendro usually has

[strange scarab]

forgot to mention that team has no sustain at all so last slot could be yaoyao/kirara or zhongli
would be even better if you have kuki so you can replace raiden with kuki

[strange scarab]

i think it was em

[proud merlin]

awh man kuki is the one character i wish i had alongside kirara. but i think i’ll use zhongli !! thank you:)

[sweet glen]

which 5 stars are bad in the chronicled banner?

albedo and diluc?

[rugged sparrow]

define "bad" though

[sweet glen]

not recommended

[rugged sparrow]

by who

[umbral sedge]

RIP beaver Jerry

[sweet glen]

im happy that i wont get qiqi even though im getting hard pity

bad = not usable , recommended

[rugged sparrow]

then no one

[haughty lotus]

all of them are very usable, I dont think id recommend any of them tho lol

[rugged sparrow]

^

being usable is a very different thing than being good

[timid oxide]

[umbral sedge]

[tender granite]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-gif-22966738

[sweet glen]

kazuha and sucrose pros and cons

[strange scarab]

ballzuha: buffs elemental dmg bonus, better in mono element
ballscrose: em share, better in melt/vape/aggravate, can hold TTDS

[reef comet]

kazuha:
pro: better sucrose
con: need c2 to actually delete sucrose, not a woman
sucrose:
con: worse kazuha and em buff is mid in some teams
pro: can onfield and woman

[rugged sparrow]

[primal cypress]

How much ER does Kazuha need in Raiden Yae Hypercarry?

[rugged sparrow]

should be on the lower end

[primal cypress]

I have with Iron Sting Triple EM around 150

[rugged sparrow]

160% is like eyeball numbers

you should ERC it

[reef comet]

just get 1000em 200er

[timid oxide]

[primal cypress]

[timid oxide]

In raiden team 160+

[reef comet]

works in all team

[primal cypress]

You need 20 ER on every piece you have then

Or does he ascend with ER?

[rugged sparrow]

he ascends with EM

[timid oxide]

Em

[primal cypress]

I figured

[reef comet]

r5 xiphos

[primal cypress]

No Xiphos 😔

[round sentinel]

paimon has access to ur logs pretty much unsafe for me

[neon harness]

[reef comet]

unsafe of what?

they gonna hack you by using the pull history?

[round sentinel]

authkey

pretty much every log in ur acc

purchases log literal everything

[neon harness]

huh? they never needed mine, welp probably different device

[round sentinel]

when u let em access in ur account it will already have every logs like authkey

[neon harness]

copege

[round sentinel]

https://m.hoyolab.com/#/replyDetail/507489/1410534147611332608?fromPost=true&listType=1

^

[reef comet]

what is bro sending

[neon harness]

yea nothing is loading for me, when i click link it takes me to home page, anyways idk if its cus of my wifi acting up but

[reef comet]

tbh, if you don't enjoy having it scan your stuff, like every other scanner do, just don't ever use a pity counter or an artifact scanner

keep living safe and sound

[neon harness]

im pretty sure you can manually upload it lol, im not bothing with that tho

[round sentinel]

a discussion about it

[strange scarab]

paimon.moe doesnt access your account lol

[reef comet]

like everyone used the scanner, either pull scanner or inventory scanner, there is no feedback about their account getting hacked, banned or some sort

[round sentinel]

yes but the logs

[round sentinel]

like by counting it right?

[neon harness]

yea basically

[strange scarab]

what abt it

they dont ask for your login information

[round sentinel]

it doesnt access ur acc but it will have acesss to ur logs

purchase genesis log, what u crafted what u spent whatsoever

[wet plank]

It just accesses wish history log

[neon harness]

[round sentinel]

by having that access u can pretty much steal it if ever they have intentions of doing so

[reef comet]

steal what?

[round sentinel]

ur acc

[strange scarab]

lmao

[reef comet]

your mid account have no value

[elder bluff]

stealing it... for what? show as example of bad luck?

[strange scarab]

it only access wish history log thats it

[round sentinel]

time and effort 😒

[wet plank]

If you believe that wish history is enough information for cs to hand your account over it's fine to take precautions but please don't overexaggerate the amount of information paimon.moe actually takes

[round sentinel]

im only talking about the history logs tho like what i mentioned

[round sentinel]

show me ur account

[cedar flint]

[round sentinel]

always precautions dont want to get hacked man 😭

[rich delta]

can somebody help me make a layout or a deck of characters? The only characters I have are Kaeya, Amber, Lisa, Barbara, Ningguang, Noelle and Chevreuse

[elder bluff]

your phone and discord collect more info from you than a mere website

[wet plank]

You mentioned purchase history, domain history, etc.
if that's an oversight on your part it's fine, at least you're aware of it now

[cedar flint]

at this point just use whoever you like you’re a super beginner

[round sentinel]

ive been playing before it was released

[keen willow]

Tcg still exists?

[cedar flint]

or did you mean tcg

[rich delta]

what does TCG mean?

[cedar flint]

trading card game

[keen willow]

Ok phew

[rugged sparrow]

why the f does frikku assume it's TCG

[cedar flint]

any card game is tcg

[cedar flint]

cus it is

[round sentinel]

thats not the point tbh
im only talking about the security of my genshin acc

[rich delta]

sorry, I’m mostly new to this game so I don’t think I’ve even heard of TCG or been to it

[rugged sparrow]

???

[keen willow]

Why would you not

[cedar flint]

yu gi og tcg for example it used for most card games

[wet plank]

Tbf they did say deck

[cedar flint]

regardless if you can trade or not

[round sentinel]

whats tcg wtf

[rugged sparrow]

Chev isn't even in TCG yet is she

[cedar flint]

trading card game

[keen willow]

Last i played tcg i had a ganyu deck

[wet plank]

No idea, who even plays tcg these days

[rich delta]

that is exactly what I’m saying I’ve never even heard of it and no idea how to get to it

[cedar flint]

I play yu gi oh

[round sentinel]

@reef comet let me see ur account

[rich delta]

I guess I’m a boomer I have no idea what that means

[wet plank]

I meant genshin tcg

[cedar flint]

well ppl who like it

[round sentinel]

ig its a card game

[round sentinel]

wdym deck? u mean team comp?

[rich delta]

whatever I’m just gonna go do my research bye ✌️

[reef comet]

for?

[cedar flint]

the term is used for decades you just never really played any card games

[round sentinel]

u just said my acc has no value

[cedar flint]

at least not in a serious level

[keen willow]

Do you have hutao

[round sentinel]

yeah i do

[keen willow]

Ok it has some value

[reef comet]

of course, millions players have used paimon.moe scanner, a lot have c6, why wouldn't they get hacked?

[round sentinel]

because those c6 were either hacked not actually bought by money

[cedar flint]

I don’t use paimon.moe cus you kinda have to update it manually

[cedar flint]

[round sentinel]

i dont get this value thingy?

[reef comet]

the fuck?

they're active players

[keen willow]

I used it once and found out im in bottom 20% for winning 5050s

[rugged sparrow]

is this some conspiracy theory shit that I'm missing out or something

[round sentinel]

still applies to it

[dusty cape]

paimon.moe is the wish stats/luck tracker thing?

[reef comet]

bro is just high asf

[rugged sparrow]

yes twig

[cedar flint]

I probably will be bottom 5% if I did

I haven’t won one since sumeru

[round sentinel]

show me ur acc lol no balls

[keen willow]

I lost 2 more after that.. im probably in bottom 10 now atleast

[cedar flint]

actually my history doenst contain a single 50/50 win as of rn so probably number 1 in the world from the bottom

[reef comet]

ok

[dusty cape]

[wet plank]

This discussion seems fruitless since you clearly have differing views on the matter and are unlikely to come to a conclusion, can just drop the topic

[reef comet]

ty con

[nimble scaffold]

how to make this into usable mora

[dusty cape]

golden fog flower

[strange scarab]

mine is still mid value

[reef comet]

where arlecchino?

[neon harness]

where chlorinde

[strange scarab]

my house

[cedar flint]

they forgot to show the updated image

[round sentinel]

nice i respect that

[round sentinel]

is that every charac ingame?

[reef comet]

ok, now we can come back to being a stranger

[cedar flint]

no

[strange scarab]

I Still Use Paimon.Moe

[reef comet]

please don't talk to me or ill sue your mom

[strange scarab]

[reef comet]

edited

i'll tell father to never come back home, how disrespectful you are

[round sentinel]

what the fuck do you mean by “value”?

[strange scarab]

ok now use paimon.moe

[round sentinel]

im a scaredy cat

[round sentinel]

ur main acc?

[reef comet]

💢

[strange scarab]

what even is bro afraid of

The Danger Of Using Paimon.Moe

[reef comet]

that's cool

[feral reef]

where all c6

[round sentinel]

if i played consistently i prob would have this 😭

get burn out easily

[neon harness]

L

[reef comet]

L

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-awkward-awkward-cat-cat-awkward-gif-24906225

[round sentinel]

what does value even mean in genshin terms

[strange scarab]

L

[keen willow]

Mika in account I'd probably delete

[strange scarab]

at that point just ruin your account with paimon.moe

[feral reef]

my uncle did that once

[keen willow]

Did he survive

[feral reef]

no

[keen willow]

[reef comet]

mood

[sharp saddle]

show account eh

kekw

[reef comet]

show account

[round sentinel]

who the fuck is mika

honestly ur guys opinion which is better for neuv his sig or r5 proto

[keen willow]

His signature

[round sentinel]

i dont have that furry

[zenith thicket]

How to get that

[keen willow]

Join the genshin wizard server

[zenith thicket]

Ok

[sharp saddle]

shit PC, image get distorted when zoomed out kekw

[round sentinel]

cant send link here

[sharp saddle]

easy on bad words bro

[round sentinel]

ill send u link if ya want

how to get c5 psp girl

[zenith thicket]

Oh also i came here to ask, im getting kazuha next phase and i was wondering if its worth risking like 30 fates on mona for my ayaka team

[haughty lotus]

No, just get kok

[zenith thicket]

No damage on kok tho 🥺

Wait didnt mean to reply

[haughty lotus]

Mona probably does less damage, she has to stack a ton of ER

[zenith thicket]

Oh actually?

[round sentinel]

any character that can solo abyss

other than neuv

[keen willow]

Scara

Yelan

[zenith thicket]

Yes please actually i cant search gor servers on mobile

[round sentinel]

pmed u

[round sentinel]

ningguang?

but the best that can solo prob neuv right

[keen willow]

Yea she can solo floor 6

[round sentinel]

only 4 characters?

[reef comet]

fake, she can solo floor 12 with 0 star

[round sentinel]

what about thus

[keen willow]

You can't go to 12-2 without clearing 12-1

[reef comet]

just dodge

[sharp saddle]

just play against weak abysses

[keen willow]

You HAVE TO kill the enemies to move forward

[sharp saddle]

just have Neuvilette kill the other chamber in 10s

so u have 9:50 for Ningguang to slowly chip things down

[stark solstice]

i really want to build em overload comp...but who would hu tao be good with??? ( i have yanfei as well for a pyro dps option, and also diluc, if i lvl them both upp)

[neon harness]

fischl, chevy

[keen willow]

Fischl is the only reasonable option

[stark solstice]

sooo....im assuming i build fisch em??? I learned a few min ago that the person causing the reaction has to be the one with high em...so its can be hu tao, 77 em, but the electro has to be 500+ em, am i correct? so build fischl em?

[strange scarab]

mostly welkins and get lucky

[strange scarab]

overload dmg isnt good enough that you would build em specifically for that reaction

[stark solstice]

but having em fischl would be good on other teams tho right?

[keen willow]

You'll get like 12k dmg with overload if you have 500+ em. + the enemies fly away

[stark solstice]

is 12-15k not big?

[strange scarab]

against slimes? sure is

[keen willow]

I don't think its 12k if im being honest

[stark solstice]

its more right?

[keen willow]

Less

[strange scarab]

overload as a reaction is still dogshit even after chevreuse
she doesnt make the reaction itself any better

[keen willow]

I think i see my kuki do 18-20k with 1200em

[haughty lotus]

I told you twice now don’t build em in overload teams

[strange scarab]

i think i also gave the same advice to the same person before

[reef comet]

3

[strange scarab]

wow

[stark solstice]

bro im sorry...i just really want an excuse to use fischl and beidou

[keen willow]

Just play aggravate

[haughty lotus]

Use them. They still don’t want em

[keen willow]

Slap in yaoyao and an anemo

[stark solstice]

my only dendro unit is nahida c2 and she is reserved for my hyperbloom team

i dont think i have yaoyao

[keen willow]

Dmc exists

[stark solstice]

i havent switched elements at all with mc

he still on anemo

[strange scarab]

then go

[stark solstice]

bro is like lvl 20

[strange scarab]

get to building i guess

[keen willow]

You can play fisch and beidou with hutao just add xq too and build crit on everyone

[stark solstice]

add xq?

[keen willow]

Xingqiu

[haughty lotus]

Surely they’re asking about a hu tao team

[strange scarab]

xingque

[stark solstice]

my only hydro support is xinqui

[strange scarab]

*xinqiu

[stark solstice]

so i cant do double hydro with hu tao

[haughty lotus]

Xinqu

[strange scarab]

qingque

[keen willow]

You can't even do single hydro if he's with nahida for hb

[stark solstice]

Ayato, xinqui, nahida, and kuki

[strange scarab]

brrrrrooooooo

[stark solstice]

ayato is the main dps tho

[strange scarab]

yank xingqiu outta there then

[keen willow]

Hb is the main dps

[stark solstice]

do i replace xinqui with venti?

[stark solstice]

i lied, i have mona as well

[keen willow]

You can leave the spot empty and it would still be your strongest team

[reef comet]

you lied, xingqiu is the only hydro support you have smh

[round sentinel]

i want to dps kokomi

[strange scarab]

venti interferes with hb

so no

use a second dendro instead

[stark solstice]

would collei do? she is c6, idk if that makes a differnece

[round sentinel]

kokomi dont crit right?

[strange scarab]

negative crit rate

[keen willow]

She does if you have more than 100% cr

[strange scarab]

issue can be solved by getting more than 100% cr

[haughty lotus]

Cope, just put yelan or fischl

[stark solstice]

i dont have yelan!!! i skipped her!!

[strange scarab]

smh illiterate nuts

[keen willow]

R5 royal grimoairue thing idk how we spell it

[keen willow]

Get yaoyao in next lantern rite and you're good

[round sentinel]

genshin needs 1v1 combat

[keen willow]

No it doesn't

[reef comet]

ye, then you get destroyed by mf with c6 or better artifacts

[round sentinel]

and u steal the players artifacts lol if u get defeated

thats so cool feature

[neon harness]

ew

[sharp saddle]

u can already do that

[haughty lotus]

So the whale keeps growing ok

[reef comet]

haha, so funny, my balls laughed

[keen willow]

Say hello to my 70k hp zhongli

[round sentinel]

where

[stark solstice]

my c2 raiden that does 300k hitm dmg and ignores 60% def.....your zhongli is dead

[sharp saddle]

go to a coop.

load up Amber

both player reduce their HP to 1

go to a grass area

shoot each other's footing

who dies off burning first loses

[keen willow]

I have beidou+ xq + dehya

[reef comet]

truly 1v1 of all time

[strange scarab]

[keen willow]

Im not winning but im not losing either

[stark solstice]

youre still dying

[round sentinel]

thats a good idea

does jean still fling people in coop?

[reef comet]

your zhongli should be doing 20k anyway, their raiden is fucking dead

[round sentinel]

stats?

[keen willow]

Tendou bansho her ass

[sharp saddle]

jean can't fling ppl in coop. it is just client side illusion

[round sentinel]

lemme see ur enka

[round sentinel]

it does

[keen willow]

No

[sharp saddle]

it does on your client.

not on theirs

[round sentinel]

i played with 2 devices it does fling

[reef comet]

jean always have that illusion of throwing babies off the cliff, truly master jean thing

[rugged sparrow]

it doesn't

[stark solstice]

i probs need someone to fix my account before arlecchino drops

[neon harness]

L

[reef comet]

@rugged sparrow help them

[rugged sparrow]

what

[round sentinel]

try it it works 100%

[keen willow]

[haughty lotus]

You try it first

[reef comet]

this guy has something that we don't have

drugs

[rugged sparrow]

first paimon moe now this

[stark solstice]

fix my accout please!!

[rugged sparrow]

why

[reef comet]

[send help]

[stark solstice]

because its kinda wacky and i need help putting it on the right path

[haughty lotus]

You have c2 raiden and nahida, I don’t think you need to do anything

[rugged sparrow]

how am I supposed to fix it

or anyone, for that matter

[stark solstice]

they are on 2 different teams!

[haughty lotus]

And

[reef comet]

do aggravate raiden, why not

[keen willow]

Like they should be

[stark solstice]

hyper carry raiden is my best team...i cant change any of them

[reef comet]

as they should be

[round sentinel]

anyone asia server here? i want to try if it still works*

[haughty lotus]

(It doesn’t work)

[keen willow]

Glad im eu

[reef comet]

(it never work)

(it's an illusion, you fucko)

[round sentinel]

istg its not

fuck i lost my recording

[keen willow]

How convenient

[reef comet]

bro has dementia

[round sentinel]

😭😭😭😭

ill try it later ig

[strange scarab]

bro the embodiment of 𝓕𝓪𝓵𝓼𝓮... itself

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-biggest-piece-of-true-true-morgan-freeman-true-the-rock-true-it's-the-biggest-piece-of-gif-16967727079450454

[round sentinel]

it works it was a glitch way back then

right now u still can fling people in ur screen?

[haughty lotus]

On your screen, yes. On their screen, no

[keen willow]

Me when i lie

[strange scarab]

its only from jean's point of view, the person flonged wasnt actually flunged

[reef comet]

@keen willow send me to eu, asia always have weird people 😥

[keen willow]

Brb getting my jean to fling you

[reef comet]

and it's an illusion 💢

[keen willow]

Too far

[reef comet]

nein

[strange scarab]

with this treasure i summon

throughout heaven and earth, i alone am the one

[keen willow]

Stand proud coz you are

[haughty lotus]

Are you because you’re guoballs, or are you guoballs because you’re ?

[round sentinel]

if u had a red ping then the other pov would get flinged

[strange scarab]

i need to know what kind of crack have you been smoking

[reef comet]

kokaine

[round sentinel]

cocaine

[strange scarab]

why is bro thriving off misinformation like

[reef comet]

hes the embodiment of false

[round sentinel]

no its real man i tried it myself played with 2 devices way back then

maybe they patched it but it works back then

[stark solstice]

c6 collei better support than c3 dendro mc?

[strange scarab]

it never worked like at all

[reef comet]

share some goods

bro is the highest user i've seen

[sharp saddle]

i'd rather wait for the person who ask about weapon refinement materials than doing that pointless thing

[reef comet]

meaningful

[round sentinel]

https://youtu.be/rtC5uRqqMSE?si=He8fJyaBY1_jT6W4

[strange scarab]

i literally tried yeeting my friend off the cliff way back in tsurumi island release it doesnt work shes still alive and well and have better future than me

[cedar flint]

old news

[keen willow]

It was a one time fling

[round sentinel]

way back then

[cedar flint]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-jean-klee-yeet-bruh-gif-20859475

[reef comet]

ill go take a nap and have this person disappeared from this chat by then

goodluck gamers

[stark solstice]

is c3 dendro mc better support than c6 collei?

[round sentinel]

dog😭 u sit discord all day i bet

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-26450094

[stark solstice]

for hyperbloom

or aggravate

[keen willow]

I don't think anyone uses collie for hyperbloom

[strange scarab]

most educated tao main

[frail quest]

Whts better?

[round sentinel]

it still works 😭😭

[sharp thorn]

https://sg-public-api.hoyoverse.com/event/social_sea_share/redirectUrl?key=m20240115hy47k7snwg&lang=en-us&game_biz=nap_global&title_key=share_title&url=https%3A%2F%2Fact.hoyoverse.com%2Fzzz%2Fevent%2Fe20240301cb3test-yenmdu%2Findex.html%3Fhyl_presentation_style%3Dfullscreen%26hyl_auth_required%3Dtrue%26hyl_hide_status_bar%3Dtrue%26game_biz%3Dnap_global%26utm_source%3Dshare%26utm_medium%3Dhoyolab%26utm_campaign%3Dapp&img_url=https%3A%2F%2Fact-upload.hoyoverse.com%2Fevent-ugc-review%2F2024%2F03%2F18%2F380147679%2Fae6daf58e23b9e503e15734942c8979d_6628026350205726484.jpeg&desc_key=share_desc&timeStamp=5702500

[median glade]

giant link

[elder bluff]

sus link

[neon harness]

#wonderland-link-sharing

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[round sentinel]

ip grabber

[sharp saddle]

it grabs you by the ||ip addr||

[strange scarab]

i doubt you even know what ip grabber really does

it pulls wish logs genesis logs your chat history your ba

[gray oxide]

Damn wats goin on here

[frozen obsidian]

which ones should i use for floor 12? I only managed to get 5 stars using mono hydro first half and aggravate on the 2nd half.

[haughty lotus]

switch sides

[strange scarab]

manifestation of misinfo invades jenshin help

[frozen obsidian]

Okay, I'll try that. Thanks!

[deft palm]

spiral abyss 12 is hard af

[round sentinel]

welcome

[stark solstice]

id hydro mc any good?

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[stark solstice]

what the heck is dawgs ult?

nvm...i was right to never build mc

[sick quarry]

hey guys I’ve tried asking in the main discord server twice now but have gotten no response so far

So what teams should I do for floor 12

[haughty lotus]

worst character in the game by a landslide

[stark solstice]

er never played on your acc so we wouldnt know...whatever teams work best dawg shesh

[stark solstice]

i fr didnt know XD

i refuse to build barbara

[sick quarry]

…what are you even saying?

[stark solstice]

so ig im left with mona and xinqui...

[haughty lotus]

you lack a good aoe team for first half, you could use xiao or wanderer for chamber 1 and 2 but youd have to switch for chamber 3

is your faruzan c6?

[stark solstice]

gimme your furina 😦

[sick quarry]

C3

I play triple Anemo xiao so ER is fine

My xianyun is c1

[haughty lotus]

for chambers 1 & 2
first half: xiao furina xianyun faruzan
second half: hu tao xingqiu bennett sucrose (you just need her a4 unlocked)

for chamber 3
just switch the sides and have hu tao first half and xiao second

[stark solstice]

collei c6 is good in an aggravate right? where i dont need another dendro/?

[sick quarry]

Any tips for the boss in 12-3-2?

[haughty lotus]

you have nahida, aggravate teams also would rather slot a healer/shielder in the dendro slot

[haughty lotus]

do phys plunges on xiao to break the shield then do your set up once its broken

[stark solstice]

my hyper bloom team is ayato, xinqui, nahida, and kuki

is it bad or?

[haughty lotus]

thats good

[stark solstice]

i was wondering if i could have hyperbloom and aggrvate

[haughty lotus]

if you put collei its cope

but you have c2 nahida so itll clear easily regardless

[stark solstice]

but..she is c6 😦

collei c6

[stark solstice]

mk...ty for your wisdom and knowledge

[haughty lotus]

np

[stark solstice]

i will no longer cope for overload or c6 collei

[reef comet]

the fuck

[stark solstice]

how much is it to max talents 1-10 and ascend 1-90??

like 8 million mora?

@haughty lotus is candance worth building?

[haughty lotus]

no

[stark solstice]

dam...guess all i have is mona c2 and xinqui c6 is my only hope for hydro supports

i feel maidenless without furina

[haughty lotus]

oh no, only xingqiu

[round sentinel]

see it works even killed hu tao

[tall cosmos]

plz make a team for 1st half and 2nd half

[round sentinel]

@sharp saddle @reef comet ill ping yall so yall could see

[reef comet]

congrats, you won the debate, all by yourself, made by yourself

i feel delightful for your success

goodjob genshin coop professional guy

my pride is now 0

i feel embarrassed for what i've said

[strange scarab]

why is he so obsessed to win such a stupid fucking argument lol

[reef comet]

jesus christ

[reef comet]

this is the type of dude who asked me if i stay on discord the whole day actually stayed on discord the whole day himself

[round sentinel]

dude its not that serious

[round sentinel]

ur not making any sense right now, i mean u technically do

mfs be so mad i just proved that it works and now yall crying lol

[reef comet]

cryingemoji cryingemoji

so sad wawa

[keen willow]

Probably hb first side hutao second side with zhongli

[round sentinel]

so funny my guy

[reef comet]

ok

[round sentinel]

pressed for me being pre caution? and just proving that jean still fling people? unbelievable

[tall cosmos]

hb?

[keen willow]

Touch grass my dude

[keen willow]

Hyperbloom

[tall cosmos]

oh

[keen willow]

I saw people do it with national but i couldn't get the 2 fatuid grouped so

[round sentinel]

i just got back to discord and genshin this week u cant tell me this 😭

[keen willow]

[olive isle]

i’m having a small dinner but what in the teyvat is that

[sudden plover]

Hi is there anyone who specialize in fall damage with sucrose?
I got one that sucrose successfully did it and dealt 500k
The only problem is that sucrose only did it one time out of like 30
I cant recreate the scenario

[keen willow]

I got more fall damage by electro charged and then sucking them in with kazuha

[rugged sparrow]

https://youtu.be/w8F59fan2kg

[sudden plover]

This one particular person im helping doesnt have jean

[rugged sparrow]

do they have any way to send the enemies airborne?

[sudden plover]

One moment

Yes heizou

[rugged sparrow]

as long as enemies are airborne, Sucrose E/Q will accelerate their velocity

just need to time it properly

[stark solstice]

i just realized something......being xinqui is my only good hydro support ( i have mona but idk how to use her yet), i cant build for a pyro dps...without taking from my hyperbloom team....which meanms arlecchino wont be getting the love she demands......i feel a disappointed gaze from father now...

first my real father, then my grand fathers and now "father" ( aka arlecchino) are disappointed in me...depresso expresso

[warped oracle]

Well we don’t know what teams will be ideal for arrlechino, so hold out hope

[tender granite]

For all we know Arlecchino could be a mono Pyro DPS

Hell, she might even be a Burn DPS

[opal surge]

arlecchino could be 5* xiangling

[tender granite]

Might as well not even be a DPS at all

[opal surge]

or 5* dehya

[stark solstice]

none of those are good for me

[tender granite]

[tender granite]

Her kit will probably be revealed a few days before her banner

Wait for her kit reveal and act accordingly

[stark solstice]

benne is reserved for my raiden hyper carry, and my only good dendro unit ( nahida c2) is for my hyper bloom....

i have collei c6 but thats cope

[opal surge]

crazy how you will play raiden hyper and hyperbloom and an arlecchino team at the same time

for floor 15 abyss when we have to play 3 teams

[tender granite]

3 teams Abyss 🙏

Imagine each floor being divided into three thirds

[stark solstice]

bro what!!! since when? i wasnt ready for this

[tender granite]

That was sarcasm...

[stark solstice]

i also have a mono geo team, but its mid

[tender granite]

[stark solstice]

xiao jean zhongli and albedo team still needs work as well

[tender granite]

What they meant is that you won't be able to use Arlecchino team, Hypercarry Raiden and Hyperbloom Nahida all ay the same tkme

[stark solstice]

but mono geo and duo anemo/geo share zhongli, so i dont count them as a team

[tender granite]

You'll only use two of those teams at once

[tender granite]

That's not how it works though 😭

[stark solstice]

it is in my head

but ig its wrong

[neon wave]

Lots of teams share units
It's fine
You only ever need two teams at a time max

[tender granite]

Holy shit you explained my whole point in one sentence 🙏

[stark solstice]

i need furina so i can have a hydro support

[stark solstice]

that isnt xinqui

[tender granite]

They call me Hydro enjoyer

[opal surge]

meanwhile xq is the best hydro support in the game

[tender granite]

Also Furina ain't exclusively a Hydro supp

Her element just happens to be Hydro

[stark solstice]

well i only have 1 hydro support...and someone said my c2 mona is just copium

[tender granite]

She isn't valued because of her being Hydro

[opal surge]

if xq had a different character model I would play xq a lot more tbf

[stark solstice]

well she buffs attack

[opal surge]

no she doesnt

[rugged sparrow]

(she doesnt buff atk)

[stark solstice]

i am going in the no no corner

[tender granite]

Hmmm I wonder when Hoyo will release female XQ but older with same bowl haircut and blue hair and has a gambling addiction and is also basically Liyue CIA agent

[stark solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/cartoon-sad-sitting-in-corner-gif-10681093

[opal surge]

hmm I wonder why yelan is probably the most played character on my account, maybe because its xq but with a better character model

[jade jetty]

VH set vs MH set on xiao, like if both artifacts had the best possible crit ratio you could have , is the VH set so much better than MH set that it totally blows the MH set out of the water ?

also on another note, since MH gives like almost 40% crit rate, is it easier to farm MH set for xiao than VH ? if it is, then does the decrease in damage still make it not worth farming ?

[tender granite]

WTF ANOTHER YELAN MAIN 😍🥰

[opal surge]

eh, not really, just supports have more palytime than main dps

[rugged sparrow]

MH is better under a very ideal scenario

but that's also assuming you run Xianyun Furina

[jade jetty]

wdym

[opal surge]

mostly it just depends on if ur homa or pjws

[tender granite]

MH is more resin efficient

MH works very good with Furina but might cause a problem in building too much crit rate considering Xiao ascends with CR and sig weapon also gives CR

[opal surge]

pjws + mh very sus

homa + mh not very sus

[tender granite]

150% crit rate

[rugged sparrow]

as long as you're not running PJWS you should be fine with MH

[tender granite]

What's premium Xiao team anyway

[rugged sparrow]

Faru Xianyun Furina

[opal surge]

xiao faru c6 furina xy

[tender granite]

Xiao Furina Xianyun C6 Faruzan?

Hmm makes sense

How important is Xianyun's sig weapon for the team tho

[neon wave]

How much quicker is it to play geo/blunt damage in 12-3-3? How long does it take (ish) to break the shield?

[rugged sparrow]

not that important but it's huge

[tender granite]

Is it a meaningful upgrade

[opal surge]

about as important as for most other xy teams

its pretty big yeah

its a very good weapon

[rugged sparrow]

a lot quicker

you hE + Q on ZL and the shield is gone

[neon wave]

Oh

[jade jetty]

but if u use staff of homa

[opal surge]

its also gone at the start of navia chiori rotations already when you swap back to navia

[neon wave]

I feel a little less bad about struggling then

[tender granite]

Homa + MH = 😍😍😈

[tender granite]

How many geo units does E remove? 12 or 16

[jolly junco]

the shield still breaks pretty easily with non-geo stuff too, as there is a lot of blunt damage sources

[stark solstice]

hopefully arlecchino can do well with overload....only thing extra i have are electro units...ik its really cope, and its the 2 worst reaction, right above crystalize

[rugged sparrow]

a lot

let's see

[tender granite]

I know his ult has 4U

[jolly junco]

my first clear 2nd half was using raiden national, plunges on raiden for blunt damage and overload does blunt damage, the shield still broke quickly

[tender granite]

The shield for me took forever to break

[rugged sparrow]

ZL hE drains 8 geo gauge

[tender granite]

I used Quickbloom Alhaitham

[neon wave]

Same lol took forever

[tender granite]

Plunges were silly

[rugged sparrow]

and additional 6

[tender granite]

From what

[rugged sparrow]

When holding is complete drain 8 gauge units of Geo from a maximum of 20 objects (e.g., ores, Hilichurl rock shields, etc.) and 6 gauge units of Geo from a maximum of 3 enemies within a 10 m radius.

[tender granite]

OH so 14U

[rugged sparrow]

not sure if it's double dip or just either or

[tender granite]

And then 4U from his Q

[tender granite]

Assuming it says "and", not "or"

Then it should remove 14U

[rugged sparrow]

but the first sentence refers to "objects"

[tender granite]

e.g. hilichurl rock shields

[rugged sparrow]

yes since it's a separate entity

[tender granite]

They said shield

The silly thing has a shield

Albeit not a hilichurlian one

[rugged sparrow]

which we don't know if it's a separate entity or not

[tender granite]

[rugged sparrow]

can't find the data in KQM TCL either

[jade jetty]

what is 4U ?

[opal surge]

4 units of elemental gauge

[keen willow]

My undying love 4U

[reef comet]

thought you love hutao

[neon wave]

Does Raiden E proc on the shield?

[keen willow]

I lie sometimes

Theres a hutao ranking with furina c2 and an em goblet hutao is higher than mine

[reef comet]

mood

[opal surge]

furina tao leaderboard is goofy

im first with 220 cv

[rugged sparrow]

since the mob still takes damage yes

it's not damage immunity like abyss mages

[keen willow]

The other guy is top 0.8 with 210cv

[neon wave]

Oh ye it does take a bit you're right

[rugged sparrow]

they just get insane resist, think of it like Scara/Raiden shield on weekly boss

[neon wave]

Might try that next time then

[reef comet]

poor the 3rd guy

dude used to

[opal surge]

[jade jetty]

if im a whale and i get like 300k plunge with xiao, is c6 still even worth it ? or just like nah

[opal surge]

depends on what you think is worth it?

[keen willow]

Why would you go for c6 if c0 characters can clear everything just fine..

[jade jetty]

more damage ? different playstyle ? why clear a boss in 1 minute when u can clear it in 12 seconds...

i mean what else is there to do in this game, im only gonna enjoy playing a few characters anyways i just mostly skip everyone lol

[keen willow]

Its just preference

[cedar flint]

you c6 character when you want to have the character at his peak not to clear stuff easier

[jade jetty]

nah like, if the plunge damage is 300k, is the spamming of e still more damage than just spamming plunge ?

[keen willow]

Ye thats what im saying.. damage isn't the deciding factor

[cedar flint]

well it generates more particles which mean higher burst up time?

but you probably don’t need more

[round glen]

This means more than 3,500 atk is useless for this passive right?

[opal surge]

4500

[cedar flint]

cus I assume you’re running like cloud and faruzan

[round glen]

Oh yeah, thanks

[cedar flint]

and maybe furina

[jolly junco]

its very hard to reach 4.5k anyway

at least when using a proper set

[sick quarry]

[round glen]

I was curious for like damage showcases

[cedar flint]

we ball

[jade jetty]

how does it generate more particles if his e when burst is up doesnt generate any

[cedar flint]

well if your burst is active you still generate particles

[sick quarry]

What’s the best c1 hutao team?

[jade jetty]

it does ? so the spamming of his skill generates particles ?

[jolly junco]

https://streamable.com/m865qy https://enka.network/u/702147626/ builds are here if you care, not that it's relevant to actually breaking the shield

[cedar flint]

ye as long as your burst is not full it will generate

[keen willow]

With or without xianyun

[jolly junco]

I think you need to click the streamable link though

[jade jetty]

but if i dont have burst i cannot use c6 to spam skill anyways soooooooooooo...

[cedar flint]

but again I doubt you really need it 300k per plunge probably mean abyss doesn’t last long enough

[sick quarry]

overall

[opal surge]

300k per plunge is sus anyway

[jade jetty]

i was saying 'IF'

[keen willow]

I mean coz with xianyun you don't even use her c1

[cedar flint]

well your best can be active and still not full

besides if it is full the particles will go to your team members as well

[opal surge]

its you chose between vvvape double hydro and plunge, whatever you prefer

[jade jetty]

wait really ? cus my experience skill doesnt generate particles when burst is active

[opal surge]

theyre pretty close to each other to begin with

note that plunge invalidates c1 for the most part, so most c1 havers chose to not do plunge

THough for speedrunning mixing c1 dash cancels and plunges is optimal

[sick quarry]

What do you recommend

[sweet glen]

btw the er on sapwood favonius and sacrificial is same?

[opal surge]

no, this isnt hard to check either

[rugged sparrow]

no

[sick quarry]

Sapwood gives 30.6 iirc
Sac gives 61.3

[opal surge]

sapwood is a 44 base, so it has 30,6 ER, favge is a 41 base, so it has 61,2 er

[rugged sparrow]

30.6

[keen willow]

Hutao furina xq xianyun

[cedar flint]

from my knowledge it shouldn’t matter if the burst is active or not but like was said before at this point you will go for xiao cons for fun more than anything if you already do 300k

[opal surge]

i dont think its realistic for xiao to plunge close to 300k to begin with anyway

would be like 2,5mil personal DPR

[sick quarry]

True

[jade jetty]

idk which does more dps though ? spam plunging like 300k damage ? or spamming skill for 120k ?

[opal surge]

you cant plunge for 300k, i dont get why this example is relevant

[rugged sparrow]

I mean sure if you can get plunge to reach 300k then you dont need his c6

[jade jetty]

it isnt reallistic, im just asking questions bruh u dont have to tell me it aint reallistic

[sweet glen]

sapwood good for bennet? i use sacrificial on him

[rugged sparrow]

but what's the point of the question then

[sick quarry]

Much better than sacrificial

[keen willow]

500k normals are better

[sweet glen]

the er is lower though?

[rugged sparrow]

"if my Xiangling can do NA for 1 billion damage do I need to build ER for pyronado"

[opal surge]

if my hutao did 700k n4 strings and 120k CA is it worth pulling for c1 if I can just not CA?

[cedar flint]

you really only spam skill for particles in my opinion so the extra skill probably won’t benefit you in dps

[sick quarry]

Bennett’s buff depends on your base atk, and sapwood’s is much higher

[rugged sparrow]

his skill doesn't generate particle while he's on burst

idk why you keep bringing this point

[keen willow]

His BIS is a physical sword

[opal surge]

xiao c6 rotation is plunge into 3-4 Es anyway

you will still E on xiao with c6

sure, if you did a bazillion damage with plunge you might not

But you wont so whats the point

[cedar flint]

well my bad cus I wasn’t sure about that but again my point still stands he probably won’t benefit much from it

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[opal surge]

he will do more damage

[rugged sparrow]

300k plunges is possible with Xiao, as a matter of fact

just get c2 Xianyun and c3 Furina

[opal surge]

Maybe we get c6 furina instead and offfield xiao

[jade jetty]

how to get particles when burst is active though ? without killing the enemies

[cedar flint]

sorry I was wrong

[jade jetty]

i ask which one does more dps, why do u never undersand what i ask for

[cedar flint]

you can’t do it while burst is active

[jade jetty]

yeahs that's what im saying

[cedar flint]

I doubt it will do more dps

[rugged sparrow]

...

[jade jetty]

yes u need to, because pyronado doesnt last a long time and when it's over u gonna deal like meh damage

[rugged sparrow]

but I do NA for 1 billion dmg

[jade jetty]

then u dont need

[rugged sparrow]

why do I need to build ER

[jade jetty]

yeah but ur question is very different from mine

[rugged sparrow]

how is it different

it's whether you should be pulling for c6 or not

if you do enough dmg from plunge = dont pull c6
if not enough = pull c6

[jade jetty]

if xiao does like 300k plunge he can still do like 150k or 120k skill, so if his skill can be spammed faster than he can 300k plunge then it's potentially more dps right ? but if the 300k slow plunge is still like way more, then even if skill spamming is faster it doesnt matter right ? this is the question im asking

[opal surge]

xiao c6 is a dps increase, thats just the bottom line

if xiao plunges for 300k his E does a proportionate damage

so yes, you will use your c6 regardless

[rugged sparrow]

Xianyun's plunge buff is capped at 8 enemies, so you can't consistently hit 300k plunge

[jade jetty]

i see

[rugged sparrow]

*8 instances

[jade jetty]

oh ok i didnt know that

[opal surge]

also xiao constellations are the least valuable on xiaos team

[jade jetty]

yes i know

[rugged sparrow]

main takeaway is, c6 is still good for aoe scenario due to Xianyun's limited buff procs
otherwise just spam plunge

[jade jetty]

alright

[rugged sparrow]

https://streamable.com/jqowrn related (not mine)

[jade jetty]

it's not playing for me

[rugged sparrow]

open it on website, Discord kinda killed embed lately

[jade jetty]

oh ok

[neon wave]

Oh you're doing the entire setup immediately
Thank you this definitely looks much handier than whatever the hell I was doing

[jolly junco]

np

[slender parrot]

I just wanted opinions on something.

I'm an f2p and I'm not sure whether to choose for Nuevillette or Kazuha. I know I'll have fun playing both but I'm not sure what to prioritise. Nuevillette is a whole team but Kazuha can fit into any team.

What's your take on this?

[rugged sparrow]

what chars do you have? if you're lacking DPS chars, then go for Neuv
If your current roster benefits a lot from Kazuha, then go for him first
if you can clear abyss 36* no problem then pull whoever you like more, or just get both easy

[slender parrot]

I have never 36* the abyss...
I have Nahida, Zhongli, Raiden, Scaramouche, Wriothesley and a C1 Tighnari. (For 5 stars)

[golden ledge]

i only need to change her goblet right?
or I should sacrifice some CR for more CD

[rugged sparrow]

what about 4-stars though