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[jolly junco]

but no

he doesnt apply enough pyro

[primal cypress]

^ if only Klees burst would work off field

[rugged sparrow]

Klee's burst is worse in terms of pyro app than XL though

[primal cypress]

But a second off fielder wouldn’t hurt
XL is the only good off field pyro applicator :/

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

[opal surge]

pyro archon will fix it

[olive isle]

pyro traveler COPE

[gray oxide]

XL agane

Wazzup 🫖

@jolly junco i deserve a proper greeting

[rugged sparrow]

he probs went off a morning run again

[gray oxide]

Didnt know bros touching grass

I shall not disrupt him then

Just back from an afternoon run

[median glade]

time for midnight run

[rugged sparrow]

y'all running at different times

[olive isle]

afternoon endurance walk

[gray oxide]

How does that even work

[gray oxide]

Well were at dif sides of the globe so technically me and Lemon go out at roughly the same time

[rugged sparrow]

but you came back earlier

or already went out earlier, hence the statement

[gray oxide]

Ah this week i went out earlier by an hour

Had a vacation for a week, wasnt able to run so i was kinda looking forward to it

[opal surge]

We actuallz got a plunge blessing in abyss

[hot cloud]

Im so tired of leveling up 3 star weapon... there has to be a way to delete these...

[jolly junco]

good morning Professional Bedroom Fashionista, how are you?

(yes I was out on my morning run)

[fleet oar]

Abyss team? I can build any character too if needed

[jolly junco]

i run 5-10k every day though i do spend most of my day indoors

[lyric cargo]

Neuvilette, Fischl, Beidou, [filler]
Nahida, Xingqiu, Kuki, [filler]

to upgrade team 1, try to get Furina and Kazuha
to upgrade team 2, get kuki to lvl90 and build her for elemental mastery

[fleet oar]

I’m gonna pull for kazuha soon

[lyric cargo]

good luck

[crimson notch]

Hwo many pity is a normal amount to get a 5 star

[opal surge]

around 75

[crimson notch]

Thx

Started 3 days ago and have gotten 71 wishes and still no nahida😭

[lament flicker]

be careful cuz u can have mona instead of nahida

better rush quest and map

[crimson notch]

No cause it is my first 5 star so she is guaranted right?

[lament flicker]

oh nice

i got a mona instead of nahida

[crimson notch]

Yeah and tommorow 5 free wishes form lantern rite

[lament flicker]

my luck seem off whenever archon banner come

[crimson notch]

How long have you been playing?

[lament flicker]

1177 days

[crimson notch]

Damn

About 3 years

Which ar are you right now?

[lament flicker]

ofc 60

[crimson notch]

Oh nice

Im ar 27

Dont know if i have been playing to much these last few days

[lament flicker]

just chill

[crimson notch]

Yeah but i want nahida

[lament flicker]

remember to save fragile resin and use all normal resin till ar45

[crimson notch]

Yeah i knew that

Almost only have been exploring

[vale wind]

since when is your first 5 star guaranteed?

iirc your first 5 star is still 50/50

[jolly junco]

it is, yeah

(still a 50/50)

[crimson notch]

😭

If i lose to a qiqi after so much grinding im just going to drop the game

[simple basalt]

any raidon build?

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwW12uQLCiw

[lyric cargo]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds
https://keqingmains.com/

[warped oracle]

Check the pins, but for the most part there’s just personal damage focused Raiden’s and hyperbloom

[zealous ledge]

Hey darlings, can you tell me the size Genshin on your computer?

I am trying to find mine but it says 302 mb which is obv!! wrong

[olive isle]

the 302 mb is the size of the game's launcher

[lyric cargo]

C:\Program Files\Genshin Impact is 102GB
C:\Users\$user\AppData\Local\HoYoverse\Genshin Impact is 16.1 MB

idk if any other files exist, but the first folder should be most of it

[lament flicker]

holy cow 100gb

u have two voice pack?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, default language (english) and the one I changed to (japanese)

I can probably uninstall english if I'm sure I never want to switch back

[simple basalt]

is yelan, benett, nahida, and raidon good team?

[neon harness]

No

[lyric cargo]

you have to look at what reactions you're triggering
and what buffs benefit who

[neon harness]

Hyperbloom teams prefer a dendro/hydro healer

[lyric cargo]

Bennett doesn't fit well

[neon harness]

You can replace nahida and go with xiangling for rational if you want to use dps raiden

[jolly junco]

it could help if you post a picture of your characters here so people can suggest two teams without overlapping characters

[opal surge]

Mine is 102gb and I dont think I have a second voiceover installed (nvm I apparently have japanese installed as well)

[jolly junco]

assuming you want that

[opal surge]

I dont recall ever playing non non english

[simple basalt]

here

[opal surge]

The voiceover packs for languages seem to be 16gbish each

[sly lava]

Is sac fragments r5 good for nahida?

[jolly junco]

there are no additional characters if you scroll a bit further down?

[opal surge]

Refinements mostly dont matter for nahida

[whole turret]

yes the weapons passive doesnt matter at all just em stick

[simple basalt]

gaming and chevreuse so didnt even bother

[rugged sparrow]

but Chev is decent for her depending on team

[opal surge]

Chevvy not bad for raiden

[whole turret]

chevruse is so good for raiden tho

[sly lava]

Oh her ratio is 68/160💀 and 380 em and shes lvl 60 that bad or?

[opal surge]

you could just play hypabloom double hydro and chevvy raiden xl bennet

[jolly junco]

i would've suggested that if they actually had kuki

[opal surge]

oh youre right they dont

[whole turret]

more em

[opal surge]

Maybe Sucrose taser + Yelan Rational or Chevvy Raiden?

[jolly junco]

or
nahida, xingqiu, yelan, raiden
bennett, xiangling, fischl, chev

it works

[opal surge]

That kinda sounds like a fun team tbh, Id like to try it but

[jolly junco]

i played chev + raiden every floor

[opal surge]

I played a bit of chev on an alt, she feels really fun to play

did 50 pulls on raiden banner and didnt get her though, unfortch

[jolly junco]

yeah she is fun to play

[rugged sparrow]

4-star pity despairge

[lyric cargo]

4-star epitomized path

[jolly junco]

i underrated chev a bit at first

obviously there's drawbacks with overload teams for some content, but she's actually quite good

[lyric cargo]

what constellation is yours, Lemon?

[opal surge]

by the way, is c6 sara preferable to Bennet in that team or is this just a fun variant

[jolly junco]

only c0

[rugged sparrow]

[jolly junco]

she's more or less a sidegrade

[lyric cargo]

res shred from off-field is nice

[jolly junco]

one of the upsides to sara is no circle impact

[indigo sleet]

Can't decide which vaporize team I like more...

[jolly junco]

one of the downsides is getting interrupted when trying to use ur fkn charged shot

[lyric cargo]

how does chev compare to Faruzan again? (at c6)

[rugged sparrow]

Faruzan sweeps

[jolly junco]

i mean they're not directly comparable? I'd say a c6 faru is stronger but chev has more teams really

[rugged sparrow]

yeh
but assuming their "best" teams, I'd take c6 Faru any day since she's pretty irreplaceable

[jolly junco]

chev is restricted to pyro + electro for her kit to fully work but within that there's a lot of viable only pyro and electro teams

[rugged sparrow]

Chev while strong has other sidegrades

[indigo sleet]

imo C6 Chev >>> C6 Faru

[keen willow]

[opal surge]

No

[indigo sleet]

C6 Faru is more comparable to C6 Sara

[rugged sparrow]

nah lol

[indigo sleet]

Cuz they're both specialized supports

[median glade]

u don't play any anemo

do you

[rugged sparrow]

I don't think we're talking about their roles per se, more to their power level

[indigo sleet]

Venti, Kazuha

[jolly junco]

but they do have a c6(c3) raiden

[median glade]

right...

[keen willow]

Where do you even play venti

[median glade]

floor 9

[rugged sparrow]

f12 yupge

[indigo sleet]

Benched for this abyss cycle cuz it's a bad cycle for him

But I do use him

[rugged sparrow]

wouldn't say it's bad

[keen willow]

Venti carried my floor 5

[indigo sleet]

It's floor 5...

[rugged sparrow]

he just can't suck up the stupid cranes on 12-1-1 but everything else is fair game

[keen willow]

I don't remember abyss being good for venti since Inazuma

[rugged sparrow]

?

[median glade]

everything in this abyss is alrdy grouped tho
why u need venti

[indigo sleet]

4.1 and 4.2 were alright if I recall correctly

[median glade]

they alrdy spawn so close

[rugged sparrow]

he has high DPR? wot

[median glade]

what dpr

[indigo sleet]

4.3 second half 12.2 and 12.3 were alright too

[rugged sparrow]

damage per rot...?

[median glade]

what was full team

[indigo sleet]

VV user

[median glade]

kazuha better vv holder then

[rugged sparrow]

why are you asking full team

[indigo sleet]

Yeah, that's why I was using him instead

[median glade]

to see if venti can be replaced with someone better

[indigo sleet]

But for people who don't have Kaz, Venti could be a substitute

[rugged sparrow]

why does this turn into "replace him with someone better" when the initial argument was saying he's bad, which isn't the case

[keen willow]

You can group those rock thingy?

[median glade]

why would u use something that's worse

[solar marten]

anyone know how to download genshin on mac?

[indigo sleet]

I mean 1st half of this abyss is easy enough that anyone can be good

[rugged sparrow]

can before shield then just stagger them

[keen willow]

I mean I'd still just push them from one side..

[lyric cargo]

Chev:

• 40% res shred
• 60 dmg%
• 40 atk%
• healing

Faruzan:

• 30% res shred
• 38.2 dmg%
• 40% crit dmg
• A4 passive (not sure how impactful)

the first and second bullet points is what seems similar to me.
Chev has slightly larger buffs, Faruzan has more kinds?

[indigo sleet]

Sometimes it's just for fun

[rugged sparrow]

let's not forget Faruzan generates shitton of particles with c6 that makes her goodge

[median glade]

yes sometimes use weak dps for fun
not supports

venti staying off field anyways

[haughty lotus]

Venti weak

[jolly junco]

you forgor that chev also gives a 40% teamwide ATK buff. chev's C6 can be difficult to fully take advantage of though (but it's still good

[lyric cargo]

they're each restricted to buffing different teams of course, can't really compare them directly since they can't be used with the same units

right, the atk% buff

[keen willow]

Last time i used venti in floor 12 was when we have 65 rift hounds i think

[indigo sleet]

You forgot to mention that Chev is great for killing Timmie's pigeons

[rugged sparrow]

u can do the same with Faru

[keen willow]

Faruzan is literally better

[jolly junco]

nah they're equal for that

ive tried

both can kill all of the pigeon clump in a single shot

[rugged sparrow]

was gonna ask "and how'd you know that" and ofc he's done it

[keen willow]

If i had Chevrolet I'd try it too

[rugged sparrow]

same

[indigo sleet]

Btw

[jolly junco]

lucky for you im a man of science

[indigo sleet]

Would Emblem Miko work?

[rugged sparrow]

it can be her best set at c0, wym

[keen willow]

Noone beats yelan tho

[indigo sleet]

Pulling for her in the 2nd phase

[lyric cargo]

love how that's the conversation
everyone's tried, and it's subject to just as much analysis as abyss TCing

[rugged sparrow]

wiki should also list their effective range to know who has the edge

[lyric cargo]

I use Yelan

[rugged sparrow]

apparently not, this game sucks

well, the wiki sucks

[keen willow]

Chevruse has less range so

[jolly junco]

the Ousia hit from chev can also kill birds its not just the shot damage itself

[keen willow]

But using a gun is more fun

[indigo sleet]

She also gets 3 free skill uses after her burst

[rugged sparrow]

and pray tell, why'd you waste energy by using that to kill Timmie's pigeons

actually forget I asked, ppl who does this is beyond reasoning

[indigo sleet]

I meant it's good in general, not necessarily just for killing pigeons

And yea, using a gun also just feels more fun to play

[neon wave]

Surely they'll give her out for free next patch

[rugged sparrow]

next patch is free weap patch so

4.6 surely clueless

[neon wave]

Oh yeah Lantern Rite was this patch

[rugged sparrow]

maam

we're not past the first half yet stay strong

[neon wave]

I'm not even done with the quest yet

[rugged sparrow]

bruh

[median glade]

there's more?

[indigo sleet]

Felt like ages tho for some reason

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[median glade]

I thought all rite quests done

[opal surge]

First half of the patch

[rugged sparrow]

wot, not the lantern rite quests

[neon wave]

No those are all out already

[opal surge]

Not first half of lantern rite

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[indigo sleet]

I've got 3 more to do

Been unmotivated to do them

[neon wave]

They've been making good cutscenes lately

[rugged sparrow]

why do they always put Overflowing Mastery/Leyline Overflow at the end of a patch

[neon wave]

I enjoyed the lantern rite quest

[rugged sparrow]

yeah they're good

[indigo sleet]

Doesn't really make a differen when they put it tho

[opal surge]

So you can perfarm without knowing what you need

[rugged sparrow]

[neon wave]

Lol

[rugged sparrow]

I just want to finish farming Xianyun's books
then again weekly boss is cucking me hard

if I don't get 3 drops next week I'm gonna riot

[opal surge]

Whale has not dropped 3 for me once

[jolly junco]

i wish they would just axe overflowing mastery and only do leyline overflow

[rugged sparrow]

once for me

[indigo sleet]

I wanna prefarm Chiori's talent books, but can't decide whether she'd need Inazuma mats or Fontaine mats

[rugged sparrow]

ill axe your left leg so you stop doing your morning runs

[jolly junco]

thats not very nice

[neon wave]

Overflowing mastery is good it's just structured poorly imo

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

I'm holding off from triple crowning my Navia for now because I want to hold whele mats for arlecchino

[rugged sparrow]

how many crowns do u have left, Sensi

[opal surge]

Many

[rugged sparrow]

?

oh whale mats im dumb

[opal surge]

15+ idr exactly

[jolly junco]

jerry its not like everyone remembers

[indigo sleet]

How much mora do you have, is the real question

[rugged sparrow]

no I thought Sensi was missing crowns for some reason

cuz I didn't register the "Whele mats" as "whale mats"

[rugged sparrow]

how many Fontaine chars have u crowned, now that's the question

[elfin tusk]

Is diluc way better than hu tao with xianyun? Or can I just get away with not having to build another character

[opal surge]

I double crowned furina, crowned navia e and have NA and Q at 9 and I crowned Neuv NA's

I guess if arlecchino is not next patch then its not unlikely that she will need new weekly boss anyway

[rugged sparrow]

ah

yeah plenty of weekly mats used already

[opal surge]

i dont recall if neuvilette needs whale mats actually

I guess he doesnt

[rugged sparrow]

actually no he doesn't

he uses Guardian of Apep's Oasis

[opal surge]

I have 4 whale mats left...

I guess I could slam now at this point

[keen willow]

Btw is this fine

[keen willow]

My hutao technically got worse coz i don't have furina

[elfin tusk]

Eh diluc will have the same problem lol

[opal surge]

I think hutao is just better than diluc on equal investment no?

with XY teams

[elfin tusk]

Just wondering if the damage lost from the healing is worth building diluc

[keen willow]

I thought you had already built diluc

[elfin tusk]

Partially? I mean his artifacts were kind of terrible

Levelling isn't the problem, the artifacts are

[opal surge]

Wait you have a hutao that you want to replace with Diluc or

[elfin tusk]

Not replace hu tao entirely, I still wanna use her with her charged like normal, but with xianyun specifically I want to know if diluc is better because of his scaling and the way he doesn't lose damage when he heals

[opal surge]

I would be surprised if Hutao isnt just better in every scenario

Including plunge XY teams

[elfin tusk]

Yeah okay I think I'll just stick with hu tao for now

Maybe I'll build diluc later so I actually have an opportunity to play with him in the abyss for once

[lyric cargo]

flower, goblet and circlet could be improved if you want to keep grinding mh

weapon lvl90, gaming lvl90, level his skill more. NA talent if you're doing xianyun plunges in addition to his skill-plunges. otherwise burst a bit more

if you improve artifacts and get his c6 later, note that it gives 20cr. so his cap with 4mh would eventually be 44cr (or even lower with Xianyun's crit passive)

[keen willow]

The weapon is fine right

[lyric cargo]

mine looks like this, right now. I should probably lower his cr a bit because of Xianyun

[keen willow]

I have r5 rainslasher too

[lyric cargo]

let me check the build guide again. I assumed it was fine

[keen willow]

Well I'll get his c6 next year

[opal surge]

c6 gaming already 🐳

[lyric cargo]

I'm down to 100 wishes, from initially 250

61 pity + guaranteed, but didn't want to go further after the 4★s were c6

[opal surge]

thats not bad

I did 135ish and got 2 copies of gaming, completed c6 noelle and faru tho

[keen willow]

Got 5 faruzans and 4 gamings in like 80 pulls

[lyric cargo]

you still got your lantern rite selector? or used on xq

[keen willow]

Yea got c4 gaming from there

All other relevant 4 stars are c6

[lunar dagger]

Iron sting or sapwood with kuki?

[opal surge]

Iron sting

[lunar dagger]

Thanks, is 4pc maiden with 1k em 180 er optimal?

[jolly junco]

no but what team is it you want to use kuki for?

[lunar dagger]

Hyper

[jolly junco]

hyperbloom?

[lunar dagger]

Ya

[jolly junco]

use an EM weapon and go triple EM for ur artifact mainstats. 4pc paradise lost>4pc gilded dreams for set bonus

[lyric cargo]

kuki is the one who deals hyperbloom damage, you'll want to lvl90 her and build her full EM to maximize that

[jolly junco]

if u dont have any EM weapon yet and you want to be conservative with billets you can also use this https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Iron_Sword

its like ~1 EM substat less than iron sting and cheaper to level

i say this because the fontaine craftable sword is quite good and refines well

if you want it for another character

[lunar dagger]

Thought so

If I use nahida, kuki, furina who can my fourth be? (I don't have any hydro drivers)

Except yelan who is single target

[lunar dagger]

What about energy? I need her ult on constant cycle for furina

[jolly junco]

furina's dmg% buff doesn't apply to hyperbloom damage and she applies less hydro than xingqiu

use nahida, kuki, xingqiu, yelan instead

[inland patio]

can somone help me build Clee

[lunar dagger]

NOT BUILDING ALLAT🔥🔥 (I'm in a constant struggle for mats)

[jolly junco]

too bad

[lunar dagger]

I'm ar 55 can you rate these

Yes I'm aware my yelan is a problem

[jolly junco]

they all need work

and swap to a different weapon on furina

ferryman (you can get it from fishing) is better than skyward

[lunar dagger]

I feel like at my level these are satisfactory I need to build other characters before fully perfecting characters

Imma try to have a kuki build within a couple of weeks

[jolly junco]

what makes something 'satisfactory' in your view?

[lunar dagger]

I'm able to finish content with ease ig

[jolly junco]

I see

[lunar dagger]

Those three builds burn through most things

[jolly junco]

in my mind, it's whether the builds are good enough to 36* abyss 9-12 without any issue. though not everyone cares for that so it's not the only right opinion on when something is satisfactory

[lunar dagger]

I am ar 55 😭 I don't even have 2 team comps built

[random hawk]

[neon harness]

[lyric cargo]

bursting on kuki is mostly optional. in some situations it can be nice, like breaking elemental shields

ER substats on your EM pieces are welcome, though those have low drop rates.

for flower and plume, I'd just look at EM

[crimson notch]

Which characters should i try to get because i just started and dont know who to go for

[lyric cargo]

for the most part, it depends. Most chars can be viable in the right team.

It becomes easier to give suggestions once we know some chars you want to build around. Or what team archetypes you like

Very few chars are universally good in a vacuum, they have a large number of good teams:

• Nahida
• Kazuha
• Furina
• Yelan
• Xingqiu

[crimson notch]

I dont really know i just want some characters that are always good to have no matter what

[lyric cargo]

the above five would fit that

[crimson notch]

Already have xingqui and need a few more pulls and then i have nahida

So i should look out for kazuha furina and yelan reruns

Thx

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[lunar dagger]

Have u gotten a five star before?

If not from the limited banner there is a 50/50 system

[crimson notch]

Oh

[lunar dagger]

50/50 split to get either the character or another "standard" five star

Standards include mona, qiqi, jean, diluc, tighnari, dehya, and keqing

[crimson notch]

I hoep that i get nahida then

[lunar dagger]

Of which jean and tighnari serve the most to the current meta

Arguably diluc as well

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwW12uQLCiw

[lunar dagger]

I hope so too! But be aware if ur rlly unlucky like me

I'm still 0-8 on winning the 50/50s

[crimson notch]

Yeah i watched that video but i didnt know that the first one want guaranted

[lunar dagger]

If you lose a 50/50, your next five star will be guaranteed the limited character

[crimson notch]

Hope for you that you will one

[lunar dagger]

Whats your pity at?

[crimson notch]

Im on 75 pity right now and this is my 4th day playing if i dont get nahida im not sure if im still playing

[lunar dagger]

Just be careful because you'll need to get all the way to sumeru to level nahida

[crimson notch]

Already did that for her

[lunar dagger]

You got to sumeru in 4 days? Huh?

[crimson notch]

Also grinded enough materials to be able to ascend her to my max

[crimson notch]

Sumeru is immediatly open just like fontaine and liyue

[lunar dagger]

I had no clue

Well that's good

[crimson notch]

Yeah

[wanton tendon]

don't question

[lunar dagger]

I got her on 78 earlier today wishing u the best of luck

[wanton tendon]

just ask them to touch grass directly

[crimson notch]

Thanks im hoping to get her

[sick quarry]

is Barbara good in Hyperbloom teams? I'm using Lisa, Nahida, Xingqiu and Barbara

[crimson notch]

Im sick so im laying in bed the entire day so i started playing genshin

[lunar dagger]

Not really unless u have a hydro driver for multitarget

For single target yes she'll do just fine

Especially seeing as u have xq

[sick quarry]

Okay cool. And what about Lisa? It's kind of awkward to proc Hyperbloom with her I find.

[lunar dagger]

So again Lisa is not the best choice for a lot of hyperbloom teams, she requires enemies to gather up

[sick quarry]

Alrighty. I guess I'll just wait 'till Kuki shows up on a banner, lol. Currently, Lisa is my only Electro character.

[lunar dagger]

You often want to find yourself running Shinobu kuki, yae miko, raiden, etc

[sick quarry]

Gotcha gotcha

[lunar dagger]

Kuki is an amazing pick

[lyric cargo]

you can see how the chance to get her goes up here, btw:
https://hutaobot.moe/tools/gachacalc

once you're past 73 pity it starts rising rapidly

[lunar dagger]

She offers great healing, you must build her with EM tho as me and @lyric cargo discussed

Note: em will only convert to healing once you've unlocked 2nd(?) Passive

[sick quarry]

Alrighty, so I'm hoping to get Kuki for this team. Thanks!

[lyric cargo]

you can on-field her and she'll cover both hydro application and healing the team

but it's not ideal.
Kuki can heal while also being your hypberbloom trigger, which is probably better because the electro unit needs to build full EM and won't do much else besides hyperbloom and healing

[sick quarry]

Until I get Kuki, do you think it's even worth running a hyperbloom team? I also have this team I've been working on.

[lyric cargo]

if you have bennett, he'd be a better healer for that team

[lunar dagger]

Are there any good options for furina and nahida besides superbloom baizhu/ yaoyao? @lyric cargo

[sick quarry]

Unfortunately, I don't have Bennett yet either

[neon wave]

Unless you have Raiden or eventually get Kuki, I wouldn't bother with Hyperbloom

[sick quarry]

Alrighty

[lunar dagger]

Raiden is only good for hyperbloom once u get 1k em gilded

[neon wave]

That said, you're pretty early so even with subpar units for the role (like Lisa) you shouldn't find enemies very difficult

[neon wave]

Same as Kuki

[sick quarry]

Indeed.

I'll stick with the Vaporize team for now

[neon wave]

Save starglitter for Bennett when he comes around in the shop

[sick quarry]

Will do! I've saved 14 out of 34 so far, lol.

[lyric cargo]

good healers for teams around Nahida + Furina?
I think these are the only ones I'd consider

Dori Quickbloom only if she is c6

[lunar dagger]

Is furina not affecting hyper really a problem?

[lyric cargo]

Furina's kit gives you:

• hydro application (but less than xq / yelan)
• a dmg% buff

for pure hyperbloom, the dmg% buff isn't useful

[lunar dagger]

Can I send my roster

[jolly junco]

wherege jean

[opal surge]

I dont know if Xianyun in furina + nahida teams is a real option

I cant think of a team thats xianyun furina nahida +1

[jolly junco]

oh wait you specifically said nahida and furina

ignore the jean

[lyric cargo]

dmg% applies to damage you deal with your talents
hyperbloom is a transformative reaction, so it won't benefit from dmg%

In order for Furina to be ideal, you'd want it to be quickbloom. A team that triggers some hyperblooms, but maintains quicken aura on enemies (dendro + electro = quicken, but gets consumed by hydro application)

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it's questionable at best right now

[opal surge]

also worth mentioning that for quickbloom specifically furinas slower hydro app compared to yelan/XQ is desirable, as more of your damage share comes from your onfield carry

[sick quarry]

What weapons are recommended for Lynette? I currently have the Iron Sting on her.

[lyric cargo]

the suggestion I heard was to use Yae Miko plunges which more consistently trigger hyperbloom than she otherwise can

so you'd be able to play quickbloom with her in that scenario, but Lemon at least was doubtful

[lunar dagger]

@lyric cargo

What other Two chars

Can I pair with them

[lyric cargo]

afaik she needs a good amount of ER and then builds dmg% and crit

but I haven't looked into her too much.
it's probably best to check the pinned build guide:
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[lunar dagger]

Ohhh

So what of I were to do double electro with furina and nahida

Have kuki for healing, hypb

Raiden for dps

[neon wave]

Raiden would just be stealing Kuki's main source of damage (the bloom cores), you don't want to play them together

[lyric cargo]

your second electro would tend to steal the hyperblooms without dealing much damage (unless they are both built for EM)

[lunar dagger]

Ur right I didn't take her e into consideration

This is such a dilemma

[lyric cargo]

beidou is an option, her burst doesn't hit bloom cores

[opal surge]

I'm not too sure about electrocarry quickbloom teams, but the only really good quickbloom teams I can think of are Alhaitham and maybe Cyno. Alhaitham prefers to run without nahida, but iwth a proper healer instead (if furina), or to run without furina and with yelan nahida instead, I dont know abot cyno

[lunar dagger]

Wouldn't tiggy be amazing for quickbloom?

I mean I don't have him but

[lyric cargo]

previously he couldn't do it at all, since he doesn't like to use normal attacks

so Xingqiu and Yelan won't work well with him

now he can do it with furina, in theory

[lunar dagger]

So who would be my fourth in the quickbloom? We've arrived at kuki, nahida, and furina

[opal surge]

Using furina + nahida in the same team is just a bit sus too be 100% honest with you

because kuki cant heal furina properly, and raiden obviously cant either

[lyric cargo]

I could see Kuki Nahida Furina Beidou, tbh

on-field Nahida for high quicken uptime (?)

oh right, you want teamwide healing

[lunar dagger]

Yeah I'm feeling like I might just have to scrap the idea entirely since most optimal furina teams revolve around flash healing

And I have a jean in working on too

[lyric cargo]

personally I'm running them on separate teams

[opal surge]

The really good furina quickbloom teams, Alhaitham quickbloom for example choses to drop either nahida for a real healer, baizhu preferably or drop furina for yelan to remove the need for stronger healing than kuki provides

(Or prototype amber nahida + kuki)

[lunar dagger]

Any multi target hydro drivers other than ayayo and neuv?

Yelan can only really drive multi target with e and passive ca

[opal surge]

why do you need your driver to be AoE?

[lunar dagger]

To generate more blooms

Wait a minute..

[opal surge]

In what team?

[lunar dagger]

Does nahida's link transfer the wet status to other linked enemies..

[jolly junco]

no

[lunar dagger]

Ok good

I was bout to say

[jolly junco]

when you say 'driver' i think what you mean is 'applier'

[lyric cargo]

(driver would mean someone who is on-field and enables other units who are off-field)

[lunar dagger]

I thought driver was just a fancy word for applier

[neon harness]

[lunar dagger]

I'm just a lil puzzled as to what I'm supposed to run for hyperbloom

Kuki and nahida yes

[jolly junco]

in terms of AoE hydro options for hyperbloom that are actually reasonable picks for a hyperbloom team its really just neuv and ayato, unless you count kokomi but her AoE is small

[lunar dagger]

But I have no idea who else would go on the team

[jolly junco]

I already told you earlier

you just didnt wanna build xingqiu

[opal surge]

Just do XQ yelan

Nahida is onfielding in that team by the way, in that case that would make nahida "drive" XQ and Yelan bursts

[lunar dagger]

Is this viable for multitarget purposes tho?

[opal surge]

Yeah

I mean hyperbloom by definition is a bit worse in AoE, because HB doesnt do a big aoe

but XQ yelan nahida kuki will probably clear every abyss chamber ever

as long as no elemental immunities

[lunar dagger]

Yeah hyperbloom from what I've heard is just not fair at all when ur builds are optimized

[opal surge]

No it is fair

[lyric cargo]

hyperbloom just has a high floor

you can build it relatively quickly if you have the right units, and get decent results

[opal surge]

Its just less investment to reach the same kind of results, but traditional builds reach HB and often have higher ceilings with investment

[lunar dagger]

True

In conclusion I'm gonna pull neuv or ayato, I'm thinking neuv is all around a bit better no?

[lyric cargo]

if you want a second easily built team that performs well, I'd suggest Neuvilette Furina Kazuha

[opal surge]

its just also that XQ yelan nahida and kuki use 3 of the best units in the game

So its expected that it would be able to clear all content

[lunar dagger]

Fs

[opal surge]

#👥gimshim-coop

[torn wolf]

sorry guys

[lunar dagger]

Maiden or gd for kuki?

[opal surge]

For hyperbloom you either do flowers of paradise lost (marginally better, but inefficient to farm) or gilded dreams (good, and efficient domain)

alternatively you can do 2p2p EM/EM, but try to get a 4p gilded at least, you should farm some deepwood for hyperbloom/nahida anyways

[lunar dagger]

I think I might just farm gd cuz my nahida needs a lot of work

[lyric cargo]

mainly the sands

her damage contribution isn't that big, so I never got back to farming really good pieces for mine

[sick quarry]

I finally gained access to my old account, I'm thinking of playing on this one again so long as I can fix it, lol. I have no artifacts for any of my characters and I'm at AR45. My characters don't do NEARLY enough damage to clear any domains. What should I do from here?

[lyric cargo]

one option is to ask in #👥gimshim-coop and see if someone is willing to farm with you

[sick quarry]

That could work! Thanks!

[haughty lotus]

You have decent options, I’d recommend
Sucrose Bennett xingqiu xiangling/gaming
Keqing fischl Zhongli/venti dendro

Farm emblem domain for the first team and golden troupe for the second (if you are using gaming just farm golden troupe)

[sick quarry]

I think I'm gonna focus on building that first team with Gaming!

[neon harness]

When you request help in #👥gimshim-coop make sure to include uid world level and server, and what activities you want to do, if domain or boss make sure to include how many times you want to fight it

[lyric cargo]

I think I'd strongbox emblem and farm golden troupe, since you don't have a great use for shime

[sick quarry]

So wait, for the first team, should I farm golden troupe if I'm using Gaming?

[haughty lotus]

Yes, gaming uses marechaussee which comes in the same domain

[sick quarry]

And which characters use Golden Troupe?

[lyric cargo]

Fischl likes golden troupe, if possible

[haughty lotus]

BiS by a big amount

[opal surge]

I will also say that coop seems to be a lot more lively on the main discord, so if you're going to coop a lot for the coming days to get you started you could try going there instead if its being slow in here

[sick quarry]

Okay, I'll try there!

Thanks everyone :)

[haughty lotus]

https://discord.gg/genshinimpact

[lyric cargo]

I might have overestimated how good the GT domain is for you, currently

the main chars that can use it are Furina and Fischl. Though almost every on-fielder can use Marechaussee if you end up getting Furina

[mortal sparrow]

i crafted 8+ order of justice but it hasnt changed any numbers. do i contact genshin support?

[opal surge]

❓

As in you made talent books and they disappeared or what

[civic totem]

Aqua passive works off field?

[sick quarry]

@haughty lotus this is what I ended up with.

[opal surge]

It literally says so in the weapon passive

[civic totem]

oh right

thx

[dusty cape]

[crimson notch]

Can someone reccomend a hyperbloom team for my friend
Some 4 stars have constellations

[mortal sparrow]

show all dendro electro and hydro characters

[crimson notch]

These are all of my characters

[lunar dagger]

They don't really have the proper units yet

Tighnari is really bad for hyperbloom

[crimson notch]

Do you have any team that you reccomend?

[sick quarry]

Xiangling, Bennett, Yelan and Kazuha would probably be pretty good I think

[crimson notch]

This is a pic of his levels and current team

[sick quarry]

That's not great

Xiangling is a really great unit, I would work on her

Definitely recommend trying out that team I suggested. It's got Xiangling as a main DPS, Yelan applying Hydro for vape, Bennett for heals and more pyro and Kazuha for swirl

It's pretty good!

[crimson notch]

Alr thanks ill tell him

[haughty lotus]

Yae fischl tighnari zhongli/kazuha

[haughty lotus]

If it has the right mainstat just level it since youre starting out, and offpiece a pyro goblet

[sick quarry]

Okay, thanks! Once i have those leveled, should I focus on getting better stats on Gaming or try to build my other characters out first?

[haughty lotus]

Yeah keep farming gaming artifacts, you’ll also want golden troupe for fischl. I forgot to say this before but artifacts should be the last thing you farm for a character. His level, weapon level, and talents are very important so you should do that before continuing with artifacts

[sick quarry]

Ahh okay, I'll work on Gaming's ascensions soon too then. Thank you :)

[crimson notch]

I got nahida om 77 pity

First 5 star on my account

What should i use as team? It needs nahida

[haughty lotus]

Lisa Barbara xingqiu nahida

[wary bronze]

Should I grind for xiao at ar 27?

[opal surge]

If you like him

[wary bronze]

is he f2p friendly?

[haughty lotus]

Not really. You can make anyone work but he’s worse off than others

[wary bronze]

what about Nahida?

[haughty lotus]

One of the best characters in the game

[wary bronze]

Imma go wish for her then

[crimson notch]

Is it worth it to build one more character so that i can have a hyperbloom team and a burgeon team?

[lyric cargo]

burgeon doesn't have great trigger units so far. You'd need pyro application that happens frequently enough without triggering burning on the enemies

Thoma is one of the few units that can do it, but he needs to build ER unlike hyperbloom triggers who can focus on EM

[wary bronze]

I got Qiqi😭

[opal surge]

[haughty lotus]

One of the worst characters in the game

[wary bronze]

C2 qiqi bro

[haughty lotus]

At ar27?

[opal surge]

c2 qiqi at AR 27?

🐳

[crimson notch]

If i build one more character i can also have a hyperbloom team cause i already have a burgeon team

[lyric cargo]

what are the teams?

[wary bronze]

I just kept on pulling on scara banner and I already had c1

[haughty lotus]

You don’t have any good burgeon character, you don’t even have a good hyperbloom one

[wary bronze]

which was ages ago tho

[crimson notch]

Nahida
Xingqui
Barbara
Yanfei for burgeon
Lisa for hyperbloom

[crimson notch]

But it works im hitting around 2.5 to 3k per burgeon seed as a ar 28

[wary bronze]

I was on the verge of buying genesis for him

[haughty lotus]

Yanfei is slow and inconsistent at triggering them

[crimson notch]

But it works for me and i can easily defeat everything that i need at my stage of the game

[haughty lotus]

Use whatever you want then. You asked for help

[crimson notch]

I asked if it was worth it to build lisa so that i can use her to have a hyperbloom team

[opal surge]

Probably not, ideally youd replace her with better characters (kuki) sooner or later

If what you have is working right now I wouldnt invest in Lisa as well

[crimson notch]

Okay thanks

[haughty lotus]

Over yanfei, yes. If you are trying to build both then no

[lyric cargo]

anyone remember the zajef video demonstrating how too much pyro will give you burning + vaporize and barely any burgeons?
(all I can find is the outdated one from before Nahida came out)

[haughty lotus]

https://youtu.be/iY16i2XhDDg?si=wH78nIpZu63jL2cC

[lyric cargo]

wait, was that the one

sounds right, thanks

[lyric cargo]

@crimson notch ^

[sterile ruin]

Dehya’s dmg absorbing is useful for burgeon ngl

Does her passive heal her off field?

FYM COPE 😭

[haughty lotus]

The absorption might be useful for burgeon but she sure isn’t

[sterile ruin]

HEY THATS MY WIFE UR TALKING ABT

[haughty lotus]

Same, that’s why you build her as a carry

[sterile ruin]

But sure her kit is ass

[sterile ruin]

I build her tank so Wrio doesnt die cuz I can’t dodge to save my life

[sterile ruin]

No not her kit, her scaling is ass

[sterile ruin]

DUDE WTH

[haughty lotus]

Her kit is ass tho, cancel burst when jumping and skill not triggering burgeon on tall enemies

[sterile ruin]

HUH

wdym tall enemies

AND SHIT THAT THING ABT BURST CANCELLATION PISSES ME OFF

[haughty lotus]

A ruin grater is one of them iirc

[sterile ruin]

But what abt them

[haughty lotus]

Her skill targets the centre of enemies, so if that centre is too far off the ground it won’t hit dendro cores

[sterile ruin]

💀💀💀💀💀

Istg theyre just doing it on purpose atp

[haughty lotus]

[sterile ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-world-of-gumball-gumball-intense-sobbing-sobbing-sobs-gif-22331023

[opal surge]

Is not being able to jump during the burst something thats a legitimate issue though? Would you ever jump in her burst to begin with?

[haughty lotus]

Freeze:

[opal surge]

I guess yeah

[crimson notch]

Oh thanks

[sterile ruin]

At least make it lock the jump feature???

[opal surge]

I dont know I dont randomly jump mid rotation

[sterile ruin]

If it was gonna be one animation

[sterile ruin]

Ok what if u accidentally touch it

[opal surge]

I get that theres no reason why it should be designed like this that it cancels but I feel like the jump cancelling the burst is a problem that doesnt exist in reality but gets blown out of proportion because people are so disappointed in dehya

[sterile ruin]

My phone overheats sometimes and it starts triggering random buttons on its own

[sterile ruin]

Dehya is the only character with this long ass one-animation burst

[opal surge]

Dehya burst lasts 4 seconds calm down

[sterile ruin]

But still even if like sometimes it bugs and 5* burst scene triggers out of frame i doubt u can cancel it with jump

[sterile ruin]

Im not mad that its long

Im mad at the cancellation

[median glade]

4 sec is long??

[opal surge]

Most on fielders perform a certain attack string for 12 secondsish in which they also dont want to jump as it often is a dps loss (-hutao etc) dehya not being able to jump for 4 seconds is not a problem

(imo)

[median glade]

4 sec is long

[lunar dagger]

Only 4? Raiden is lik 8

[median glade]

8 is still kinda short

[sterile ruin]

The difference is when they jump, their burst state dont automatically end

[median glade]

10-14 sec is good

[sterile ruin]

So they can still continue that state

[median glade]

I don't like switching

[opal surge]

Sure, but I can probably count the amount of times I have accidentally jumped midrotation on one hand

[sterile ruin]

Dehya, its gone, instantly

[opal surge]

I would have to accidentally jump midroation and be unlucky enough to be in the 4 seconds of my rotation where jumping is absolutely forbidden

If that happens that god wanted me to reset the chamber

[haughty lotus]

It’s not about accidentally jumping, it’s if the enemy can freeze you or not

[opal surge]

Ye freezing is the only fair point I can see

[haughty hawk]

meow

[opal surge]

But if you get frozen midburst half your burst is gone anyway

[sterile ruin]

Atp if they make her E heals the active character within its AOE it would still make a good difference

[haughty lotus]

Really? In public??

[haughty hawk]

:3

[sterile ruin]

U’d be surprised at the amt of times i “rawr” as a joke at my friend loud enough that the class can hear

[haughty lotus]

Proof?

[sterile ruin]

No recording on school property

[haughty lotus]

[sterile ruin]

I would love this honestly, i hate using my food outside of combat and go to the statue if im exploring

[opal surge]

play a healer when exploring

[sterile ruin]

And oh yeah, i didnt even mention her burst’s weird ass auto target 💀

[opal surge]

Yeah thats a genshin problem tho, I sometimes wish you could turn it off but ig no autotargeting makes bows unplayable

[sterile ruin]

Shes not a bow user

Just have to make it not auto target

[opal surge]

i get that shes not a bow user dw

[sterile ruin]

Yeye

[opal surge]

Autotargetting in general is just annoying, charged attacks for hutao for example

[sterile ruin]

Im glad Itto’s charged attack moves with the joystick

[lyric cargo]

I finally figured out how to 36-star with Ga Ming
||cut bennett, run Yelan Furina and let them do the damage ||

[opal surge]

Shouldnt gaming be solid top half

[median glade]

ye he should be fine

[lyric cargo]

I'm running him on bottom half (wenut side) n_n

I was assuming Neuvilette would be better top half

[median glade]

neuv good any halves

[opal surge]

Well I mean neuvilette is better top half than he is bottom half

But I think so is gaming and I think gaming needs more help maybe

[lyric cargo]

maybe I underestimate Ga Ming's AoE

[opal surge]

Well ruinserpent and aeonblight are probably good for gaming too right, but I can see wenut cringing him a bit

[median glade]

u can wait like 1 sec after using skill to position yourself to hit both mobs

but will furina apply hydro to both

[lyric cargo]

in theory, Xianyun swirls on every other plunge and reapplies hydro in AoE

but idk how reliable that is, if you lose hydro you can't swirl it

I also don't have c6 bennett, which is probably holding Ga Ming back a bit

that and being lvl 80/80 with only lvl10 skill talent

[median glade]

ye u can add 1-2 plunge before he reset his cd with c6 benny

[lyric cargo]

also consistently swirl pyro I think?
added plunges might not vape though

[median glade]

could be

[opal surge]

looks like he can vape every e

Also looks like hes probably fine top half considering mine is lvl 20

[median glade]

my is c5

[opal surge]

Mine is c1

[neon harness]

Nahida Lisa sucrose beidou idk

[median glade]

I don't like wait for cd reset tho

[neon harness]

Cope

[opal surge]

I think technically you can always see where the lion goes as soon as it bounces and dash towards it

I kinda just lose the lion after one plunge tho idk

[lyric cargo]

Ga Ming top + hb bottom went more smoothly
probably better to bench Neuv if I'm stealing Furina from her
they should make a second unit like her

[median glade]

consistent plunging with c6 benny feels better

lev 4 talent btw

[lyric cargo]

talent dmg comes from Xianyun

[opal surge]

its so hard not to do damage with xianyun bennet furina supporting you

[lyric cargo]

by not leveling the talent, you're at least dodging bennett's buff ^.^

[sterile ruin]

EM or Dendro DMG goblet for Nahida?

im using her in a burning team with wrio as dps, gilded dream (nahida)

[neon harness]

900-1000 em> dendro gob

[sterile ruin]

oh shet mine has

288 EM 💀

[haughty lotus]

Did you have her on attack sands?

[high lark]

how do I unlock lantern rite I just went on a alt for no reason?

[unkempt river]

Which AR and how far are you in the AQ?

[high lark]

8 but on my main it’s 28

already got liyue harbor unlocked

[high lark]

^

Oh

I give up on life

Oh

I wanted to get shenhe

or that rock lady or smth

[median glade]

who

[sterile ruin]

rock lady???

ningguang???

[sick quarry]

Does anyone know the rotations for Kamisato Ayato, Raiden Shogun, Nahida, and Bazihu? Yes, is a hyperbloom team.

[haughty lotus]

Raiden e > nahida e > Baizhu eq > ayato q e

[sick quarry]

Remind me again for which one is skill or burst here?

[olive isle]

Q = burst
E = skill

it’s based on the keys you press

[sick quarry]

ty

I play on mobile. Soon switching over on PC.

[high lark]

oh? she’s not a 4 star?

[keen condor]

Is this good pepos

[haughty lotus]

EM where

[keen condor]

Do I need a lot of em for a crit build

[haughty lotus]

You need more than that, use optimizer

[median glade]

give me that kagura

[high lark]

what the best 4 star

[trail trellis]

so i have a decent pc and was wondering if there was a way to get more than the 60 fps? cause i see the cap doesn't go higher

i have a 165hz monitor so i was just wondering

[neon harness]

?

I can’t tell if that is a question or a response to the nahida build lol

[olive isle]

genshin still didn’t add uncapped frame rate

but you can get to 120… in an iphone

[tawdry grotto]

Hey guys, ive played the game for a long time, but im far off being good at it. Thats why I want to ask if it is required for Bennet to be C6 in a Gaming team. I recently got Gaming and Xianyun and im not 100% sure on how to build the team.

(I also dont have furina which instantly makes the team a lot less effective)

[slate tinsel]

No, but C6 Bennett will be greatly beneficial to him. Don't do it if you have other characters who still need Bennett that can be overriden by his infusion though. (Ayaka, Eula, for example)

[tawdry grotto]

Oh yeah getting C6 Bennet means R.I.P to my Raiden national team.

[slate tinsel]

Raiden team will be fine, her burst can't be overriden lol

[tawdry grotto]

But im glad to know I dont need for the Gaming team to work

[slate tinsel]

overridden*

[tawdry grotto]

Oh wait does that include Xingqiu?

[slate tinsel]

Overridden = NAs change to pyro

So like Ayaka who infuses her attacks with cryo would get pyro instead with a C6 Bennett

Or Eula, who does phys damage with her normal attacks would instead do pyro

Unless you're using your Xingqiu to attack normally you don't need to worry 😭

[tawdry grotto]

Hmm. So that means I would no longer be able to use him to buff my Itto. (Idk why I do that im aware he just mainly heals there)

[tawdry grotto]

Nah Xinqiu physical dmg carries

[slate tinsel]

Keqing, Chongyun, Ayaka, and Eula seem to be theo nly ones who get overridden

[slate tinsel]

Incorrect, he doesn't override some people

[tawdry grotto]

:0

[slate tinsel]

Itto and other new characters have it written into their kit that their burst infusion can't be overridden :3

[tawdry grotto]

IDK WHY IM ASKING I HAVE HIM C1

[warped oracle]

There’s more, but those are that only that really matter

[slate tinsel]

^

[tawdry grotto]

Well, awesome, thanks guys. 🙂

[warped oracle]

If a character has “this effect can’t be overwritten” in their description then no

So this includes Raiden, Itto, Ayato, etc

[tawdry grotto]

I don't read

Actually let me rephrase that

I can't read

Now for the hard part, actually putting in the effort to build Xianyun well.

For some reason I am AR 55 and my highest lvl anemo character until now has been Jean-

at lvl 50

[neon harness]

ok

[slate tinsel]

Okkk? Jean is fine

Oh nvm. Saw the levle.

[tawdry grotto]

Uhuh

I could have put the time I spent getting Dehya to level 80 (I used her like 3 times) into characters which would help me a lot more. 😔

[worthy siren]

How do you stun the worm in abyss? the mecha worm

Ruin serpent

[tawdry grotto]

Sorry I dont know anything more useful but I thing you have to hit it with an elemental attack while its spinning in the air.

When it gathers energy or something. I forgot exactly what it does.

[stable panther]

is there any way to disable the ruin serpent in the abyss or is that only an overworld feature

[olive isle]

Shoot the weak spots on the neck

[lusty cloud]

Anyone know some good burgeon activators that aren’t thoma

[keen willow]

C6 benne

[lusty cloud]

I’m poor

[keen willow]

Send your characters

[lusty cloud]

I’ll send in a bit

I’m about to get home from work

[keen willow]

I mean only one i can remember is yanfei

[keen willow]

Got a gaming upgrade

[median glade]

what's this adaptive color

[keen willow]

He's geo

[strange raft]

I have C1 Xianyun and C6 Sucrose. Even without C6 Faruzan, would this team still work well for Xiao dps?

[keen willow]

Do you really need sucrose

[rugged sparrow]

Sucrose is kinda useless there though

[strange raft]

Is she? It was listed on keqingmains, on the Xianyun guide

[rugged sparrow]

she only offers TTDS but would make rotation slightly awkward cuz she takes Xianyun's buff uptime away

she helps with energy but c6 Faruzan + Xianyun + Xiao needs very little ER

you'd rather slap another buffer/self-sustaining off-field DPS

[strange raft]

Alright I will, thank you 👍

[median glade]

if don't have furina
just benny

[olive isle]

sucrose dps

[dusty cape]

[lunar swift]

How much er does xiangling need if shes c4?

[rugged sparrow]

none her const affects her ER needs

also depends™️ on team

[lyric cargo]

"How much er does xiangling need if shes c4?"
"none"

[lyric cargo]

it would depend on the team. there's an energy recharge calculator in the pins

generally 200+

if you find the calculator intimidating, you can try it out ingame and see when your rotation starts working

[lunar swift]

Her c4 makes her pyronado last 40% longer, does that not affect her er needs?

[rugged sparrow]

no?

your CD stays the same

you don't generate extra particle either

[lunar swift]

Oooh yeah i guess thats true

[lyric cargo]

bursts don't generate energy.

your rotation should stay the same length as well, since the cooldown doesn't change

[lament flicker]

i just realize that the only thing that prevent keqing become a true electro archon is her ultimate cd

[pulsar jasper]

How do I get this? Need help asap

[olive isle]

Use Sorush

[pulsar jasper]

Thank you, it works

[neon sand]

yes but why sucorse no need

is this good plunge dmg or meh

[rugged sparrow]

I mean, showcase damage is kinda fuckall since it's not really practical

as long as you can clear floor12 then it's good

[neon sand]

true

but its fun

[neon sand]

i generally do 150k is that good?

[rugged sparrow]

.

also better to just post your Gaming enka card to see if it can be improved further

[lyric cargo]

I think that's hutao, though it's hard to make out

[rugged sparrow]

ah

[haughty lotus]

🦋

[rugged sparrow]

well still post enka ig

[lyric cargo]

I'd at least take the screenshots in abyss, that removes level desparity and we don't have to account for food

that said my Ga Ming can get big screenshot damage while failing to 3★ second side even with 9:10 remaining

damage per rotation is where it's at

[native summit]

it is

squint your eyes and you can see a polearm

[jolly junco]

I've seen much faster Gaming clears so, possibly an investment issue

or rotation issue

[pastel zealot]

sucrose - > Furina

if you dont have furina, get her

[sour birch]

for those of you who know me, cloud retainer or nahida?

my main criteria rn is how much use i will get out of each of them for candace

[haughty lotus]

You have Nilou so the answer is clear

[sour birch]

because nahida lets me run candace / nahida / nilou / yaoyao

and xianyun lets me do plunge candace

[sour birch]

i also have xiao and stuff

[olive isle]

nilou plunge

[sour birch]

nah

my nilou is full 70k hp build, her plunges will hit like a wet noodle

[lyric cargo]

still don't have c0 Nahida?
I'd pick her as well

Candace plunge is apparently a thing people tried, but I don't know if it's particularly good

[haughty lotus]

So true

[olive isle]

more dmg than my dragonstrike diluc 😔

[lyric cargo]

in theory hydro infused vape plunges are good (2x multiplier on large motion value)

but you'd have to run Xiangling for pyro aura where pyro plungers get to run Furina

[sour birch]

have you seen my candace

[sour birch]

i don't even have furina

[haughty lotus]

It comes down to whether you like Nilou or xiao more, you can play Candace with either

[lyric cargo]

I have, but I don't recall. She wasn't quite c6 yet, was she

[jolly junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxH7UwIarR8

[sour birch]

yeah not c6

[lyric cargo]

this is him btw, Bennett is c4 so no infused Xianyun plunges

[sour birch]

hi aapl

[jolly junco]

Hi

[lyric cargo]

what did they feed that Diluc

[jolly junco]

C2 and Redhorn

The Furina is C2 and they have Crane's on Xianyun

It's not even whalege investment

[olive isle]

tbf my diluc has level 8 na, xy 70/70 er/atk/cr, 80/80 skyward bennett so i only deal 42k per plunge

[lyric cargo]

not vaping?

[olive isle]

vaped

[lyric cargo]

I mostly got small numbers against wenut, with its high resistance

[raven valve]

Soo can i leave her domain??

[opal surge]

Why is your xy on er atk crit

[haughty lotus]

Yeah, for 2 weeks while you level her, weapon,talents

[olive isle]

i didn't strongbox vv for a while and since this is solo xy on fav codex r5 i need a heck ton of er

[opal surge]

Jesus Christ wtf

[jolly junco]

you lose too much buffing using a crit circlet on xianyun

if you can't get enough crit rate subs to proc fav somewhat reliably, swap to oathsworn and give a fav weapon to someone else on the team

[opal surge]

Maybe I should build Diluc

[olive isle]

okay i'll build oathsword... if i have the time

[lyric cargo]

hutao should be even better, right?

[sour birch]

hows my new yelling build

[unkempt river]

Gahh, gimmeee

[sour birch]

give you what part of it

[unkempt river]

That nice crit ratio. I only got 60/120 ish

[sour birch]

well i have aqua

if you had aqua you'd have 60/210

im bored does someone wanna do an aken-style review of the builds in my showcase

[jolly junco]

Idk

[cobalt sable]

im returning to genshin and i feel the urge to build heizou, what artifact set does he want? also do i build him crit or em

[rugged sparrow]

depends on team

[cobalt sable]

what teams does he go in

i have a few characters

what about a team like heizou, xiangling, yelan, benny

[rugged sparrow]

he can be either be a an anemo support or a carry but needs a lot more investment
can also drive Fischl/Beidou in taser agg team

[cobalt sable]

i want him to be a dps

[rugged sparrow]

4p VV is most important with TTDS

you can also build him crit with Benny buffs but well

[cobalt sable]

so should i do a vape or a taser team?

[rugged sparrow]

up to you

[cobalt sable]

which ones better

[rugged sparrow]

the term "DPS" is very loose anyway, he can deal damage on both teams

[cobalt sable]

i dont mind building characters

so what would his teams be for each respective team

like what team for vape and taser?

[rugged sparrow]

on vape you just run Bennett/XL/Heizou/Xq or Yelan
taser/agg you run Fischl/Beidou/Heizou/hydro or dendro

[fallen topaz]

Should I get Gaming from event? He’s the only one I don’t have.

[rugged sparrow]

do you have the "more important units" constellations

c4 Xiangling, c6 Xq

[cobalt sable]

what would the healer on the taser team be?

[fallen topaz]

Xq is C6 while XL is C5

[rugged sparrow]

you either rely on Xq + Beidou or run Yaoyao if agg

[cobalt sable]

so no sustain?

[rugged sparrow]

nope

[cobalt sable]

that sounds kinda bad

[rugged sparrow]

if you have skill issue ye

[fallen topaz]

Should I C6 XL or get Gaming?

[rugged sparrow]

up to you then
not much point if you get Gaming but never use him aside from the free fates

[cobalt sable]

i think ill do vape team then

i dont mind building xl bc i have r5 catch

[fallen topaz]

Is C6 XL worth it?

[rugged sparrow]

good for monopyro but that's about it

since XL herself doesn't snapshot the pyro dmg% to Pyronado

[fallen topaz]

Gaming it is then for the free wishes.

[cobalt sable]

can u still get the free lantern rite character

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[cobalt sable]

im probably gonna pick yaoyao

[fallen topaz]

Should I aim for a minimum of 70 cr for any dps?

[rugged sparrow]

1:2 ratio

[cobalt sable]

i think 50 cr minimum

60 cr or above preferred

[opal surge]

Taser is hard to die on

[cobalt sable]

rly?

[opal surge]

You have both the defensive utiliy from XQ and beidou and rainsword healing

[cobalt sable]

fair enough

but which is better

[opal surge]

I imagine theyre pretty similar but the more cracked your XL is the better the XL team is probably

[cobalt sable]

i have r5 the catch

my xl is lvl 60

[mortal blade]

what artifact set does nahida need

[opal surge]

Generally speaking deepwood

[median glade]

this wood is very deep

[lyric cargo]

is Faruzan c6? She's a key enabler for Anemo dps

In theory he should work with Xianyun who's currently on banner, though Xiao will probably work better with her

[shy cipher]

i have c2 nahida and was wondering if i should wish for her weapon of for kaguras verity. the 4 stars on the kaguras banner are more useful for me but i still need the sac frag sword from the atfd banner.. what would you guys do?

[opal surge]

I would pull for kagura instead

Especially if you don't have xianyun

Getting xianyun weapon without xianyun is complete disaster

[cobalt sable]

no shes e1

how should i build heizou in a national team?

[rugged sparrow]

at the bare minimum, 4p VV + TTDS
you can build crit on him too since he can take advantage of Bennett's buff + nice frontload

[cobalt sable]

im gonna build him crit

i was thinking widsith

these are my weapons

[lyric cargo]

I have c2 Nahida with Kagura's. If I could undo it, I probably would - her team dmg share isn't really high enough to justify getting her a 5★ weapon

don't think I'd pull on the current or next weapon banner. pjws is a standard banner weapon, so it would feel bad to pull for it.
Xianyun's signature has some value if you're planning to get her, but Nahida's doesn't really

I'd focus more on expanding my char pool unless you've already got 2 - 3 well built abyss teams

[cobalt sable]

is it okay to run widsith with 4pc vv crit?

id also run em sands right?

[haughty lotus]

No, either ATK/anemo/crit or em/em/em

[cobalt sable]

alr

[iron tundra]

👍 or 👎

[lyric cargo]

the reason to run EM sands with crit and dmg% stats is usually because of amplifying reactions (vaporize / melt) or spread/aggravate

transformative reactions like swirl don't benefit from crit and dmg%

[lyric cargo]

the goblet would be better with a hydro dmg% main stat. its substats also aren't great (just 7% crit rate, the rest doesn't matter for Yelan)

your other pieces look good

[iron tundra]

yea I’ll work on that thanks

[lyric cargo]

@iron tundra you might want to lvl90 the fav bow for a little bit of free ER

not as important to 90 the weapon as for atk scalers, but it costs very little compared to the dozens of domain runs needed to get a slight artifact upgrade

oh, and probably crown her burst

most of her damage comes from that

[crimson notch]

How much energy recharge should xingqui have?

[lyric cargo]

always depends on the team.
(in his case, also whether he's c6 or not)

||mine has ~200 on fav sword and it's always been enough. I could probably give him less on some teams and get more damage by building more of the other stats||

[mortal blade]

i need help on deciding on what characters i should use and who to build, i have to many and i can't decide

[crystal kindle]

Er depending on the team is so true

[rich rose]

these are the only 2 characters with a decent build

the rest are either bad or under development

[crystal kindle]

Do u have a crit dmg circlet on yelan?

Oh we can see, mb

[rich rose]

yes

[crystal kindle]

Do u have a crit rate one?

[rich rose]

no

[crystal kindle]

Even off set?

[lyric cargo]

in practice I'm usually too lazy to switch his set

[crystal kindle]

If u have an Hp% goblet and an off set crit rate circlet, I'd recommend u to use them

[crystal kindle]

That's fair, that's why my xingqiu always has over 200Er

I usually change sets for other characters such as yelan instead

My gorou has 267 er for my noelle too lmfao

[rich rose]

nah HP% goblet is worse than Hydro Dmg Bonus, besides my off-piece for Yelan has a really good crit damage

way too good to be replaced

[crystal kindle]

Excuse me for being rude but, that doesn't really matter if you never crit

[haughty lotus]

Send a picture of your character list

[rich rose]

i'm not talking about the crit rate circlet part yet

[crystal kindle]

I'd just recommend you to pick 2 main dps that you love, and build teams around them

[rich rose]

unless getting crit rate goblet is a thing

[crystal kindle]

It is a thing, u don't have a single off set one?

[lyric cargo]

crit rate goblet

(not a thing)

[crystal kindle]

OH NO, CIRCLET

MB MB LMFAO