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Does xianyun have any place in a Navia team..? Was saving for Chiori but idk….
no
Xianyun is unironically not a bad navia support if you can dash cancel properly to get 4 geo infused plunges since thats 4 shards between e's
I dont know if I would pull for xianyun for navia though


Time to go dps and give my Xiao artifacts to her


Where do I look for hsr help I'm not active in other hoyo servers
ask in one of the star rail servers 
if you are looking for build guides this is the doc for it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRsm60jYo8MdHWimjvY42wE8-j-0NBwG9-KutpNcQbylhhBiKBpGmUm1x3CXExthl2EB438RdMWdeT3/pubhtml
Thanks, I was looking for an imbibitor dan heng build
For me in optimizer
I could definitely calc it more thoroughly but its certainly not bad at the very least
you lose an entire character slot for that
Yeah this is with characters changed of course
what weapon should I give to wanderer, my choices are between r2 widsith, r1 solar pearl and r2 eye of perception
widsith
even though the passive can be occasionally useless?
yes
i dunno who i should pull for next 
c6 yae
really? :0
Furina cons or nuev
Hey guys, I wanna report a bug that's keeping me from getting my free primos in this event.
So to do one of the event quests, you need to complete Adeptal summon, which is another quest, if you want to continue. The puzzle requires you to turn these statues to face a jade tower so that you can activate a wind current and fly up into the floating section.
NOW the bug for me, is that I have already done the puzzle a long while before. I double checked all the statues, and they are all stuck to where they should be. But the main jade obelisk refuses to make a wind current for me.
Do you think I can get compensated in some way for not being able to complete the event quests, and therefore lose out on primos?
Who's better in aggravate between sucrose and kazuha
Of course
I spammed everything, went around to all the cranes, etc.
I rotated the cranes months ago. Now that I came back, they were in the right position, so I couldn't rotate them again. At the same time, no further interaction.
Probably sucrose if going by just buffing, but Kazuha has significant grouping that can make him bettter
A few people on a YouTube video had this issue, but they realized that they missed a crane.
Me, no. I double checked all of them.
This abyss its kazuha right
First half
meow
I don't have any electro to play in second half anyways
I know dude.
Fischl 
I did the whole thing a long time back. No interaction this time
I mean except fischl
why
Oh yea i have yae too
Then use her 
Gonna try her tomorrow
Yae fischl Kazuha dendro flegs
Go to sleep.
its almost 3pm
Ye i already did first half with beidoo fisch kazoo and yaoyao
You want an electro onfielder to get fischl a4 procs, sucrose also works since she swirls electro
HELEOWK

How would I go about doing that? Do I go through the hoyo app?
I onfield beidou

I calced it and its a 7,26% personal dps loss for navia to play XY instead of bennet, but you get VV for furina and you also get 6 stacks on every E even if you miss ZL pillar

but its calced on my navia whos tl8 NA and tl10 E
I dont know if Ive made a mistake though, first time trying to calc damage - Results are a bit inaccurate due to navia Q damage benefiting partially (7-9s) benefitting from Bennet as well. Furina fanfare is sus to calc but its safe to say that XY stacks it much faster than bennet.
Calcs begin to look way worse if you assume ZL miss pillar, if its not creating shards then XY should be more personal damage even for navia, but if pillar isnt missed then XY is a downgrade ( i didnt clean up the sheet before posting, theres some random columns that are just placeholders/random thoughts of mine
)
revenge of the orange.
I take it back the above was full of mistakes, I recalced it properly and its a 10,5% damage loss even with ZL not generating shards, i was wrong 
this doesnt account for furina getting VV but I dont think its catching it either way
can i still feed my characters to increase friendship lvl?
Calcing damage is kinda fun but there's so many random small multipliers in constellation and talents and sets and what not that I keep forgetting 
no u give them a place to live in your pot
they get free food there
how do they… get free food
the place where u grow crops that can be used for ascending??
i feel like i'm doing an injustice to the bird lady
i gave her fav codex cuz it's the only weapon i can give to her

ew favonius weapons
Can anyone give me tips on the AR 50
My team right now is Navia Furina Bennett GMC. I am contemplating whether to replace Furina with Xiangling. There are pros and cons to each but looking for thoughts on strength differences.
Depends on if your other team needs Furina more 
I need help and tips for my character that can beat the ar 50 domain
Well what about bennet xangling xinqui and ayaka?
But i need tghinari for dendro bombs
I have sucrose xinquiu and i need jean but the chances of getting her is low low
does nigguang show xianyun's materials on the map or do only qiqi/yanfei show it?
only Qiqi/Yanfei
Ok thanks
Tho i dont have diona
Rosaria yep i have her
If you want do you have any other team recommendations?
What about ever what about team recommendations with bennett xangling and xinqiu for the forth slot recommendations?
What is the rot for collei nahida kokomi nilou Ik it doesn’t need one but I keep messing up on the dendro and hydro application because I don’t have sacrificial
Yea i can do sucrose
who are you onfielding
Kokomi I think?? Idrk this team im new to it
Whatever is better
@opal surge
Why can't I go into exploration domains
I dont know too much about niloubloom personally, I just know that if you werent onfielding kokomi you would struggle with elemental applications. If you are then it should be fine. Niloumains has a spreadsheet that features the team you're playing with gameplay examples of it https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/13LNlnxmSk4pZw-1O-4f2d8QfHgLVmPxrtN-iN774SGc/mobilebasic
are you in coop?
is this okay for alhaitam

it literally only has 1 good sub
but if you don't have anything else, just stick with it
my luck is do do
Dang 260exp more so that i can resonate with electro mommy 
how important are world and story quests? as a noob ive only been doing archon quests and exploration, so i have a huge backlog of them, but most of them dont seem to have good rewards
Good reward, more lore (and more talking stuff)
Some quest even unlock new map and teleport 
How do I get this hydroculus?
This is the area in Fontaine with the storm of eye boss
That's not the only part of that puzzle, there's more if you keep following the path
Any idea what it is? I don't see anything except a key shrine and the E-skill changer to a water rope
Idk what the latter is for
I don't remember, but it's in that immediate area
solve the puzzle then you will get the oculus
help wuts xian yun artif?
Go here #👥gimshim-coop
wat
If u wanna find someone to carry u for farming xianyun arte, go #👥gimshim-coop and post request 
But for advice, here is ok
i think they were asking what artifact set is best for xianyun 

nu nu im asking wuts xianyun's artif
viridescent
all attack and ER
oh like shenhe?
check the build guide in the pins
yes
okie thanks
she havent been added yet 
kok apply hydro so slow, i need a fuzina 
Hi

oh 
weapon: her signature > ttds (only xiao teams) > oathsworn eye > favonius
artifacts: viridescent
mainstats: atk/er, atk, atk
substats: atk, er, crit rate(if using favonius)
okay thanks how about for team you have idea yes me nu have xiao
send a picture of your character list
IM GUARANTEED XIANYUN ALSO AT 74 PITY RN SO YES IM GETTING HER
(even tho i need nahida more)
nahida would be significantly better if you want to play nilou 
here prooof!!!
but she doesnt have big booba like xianyun
Oh brother this guy stinks
zzzzzz no need gameplay if have eula
she deals all da damage
multiwave
xianyun + c6 bennett + xingqiu + any melee 
diluc/gaming xingqiu/yelan xianyun bennett
xianyun is just mostly a downgrade if you dont have furina 
but i cant c6 my bannettt AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
skill issue
do it, it only affects 1 mid eula team
weak.
but
eula pyro
dont use eula with bennett then
Someone stilll using eula 
my team is
eula is decent with bennett but it's not like her teams without him are garbage
get rid of the mona
Lisa/raiden with furina and shenhe good on eula?

if its with furina you need mika
What's he do
teamwide healing
im using eula kuki rosa and layla
never bring her into abyss
teamwide heal, cryo battery
fund my yae plk
Does anyone know sum about finding all the aranara
So he's like charlotte?
Youtube
use the interactive map
yes, just more suited for eula teams
but
give me c6 yae first
mona is genuinely useless in that team
her buff will end before eula nuke hits
I found all 76 the wall won't open what I mean
Can't wait to build my freezeyaka after finishing nahida
U sure found all aranara?
Is burn Reverse melt a viable option for meltyaka?
Yea I looked it up and got the Achievement play safely or sum like that
That I didn't do
I take that as a no
Wait wat wall
iirc after doing a quest there will be a lot of chest but cant open, and after found all 76 aranara can u open it
the chest room is hidden behind a wall
It only told me find all 76 aranara
Lmao 
google it to increase research skill
but
i dun trust google
good, you are learning
can you help me learn ur credit card info for yae
yes now help
what's a credit card? if you have one can you show me yours as an example of what to send
💳


keqingmain for information, game8 if u found it tldr
not game8
game8 
so wats her best team wid nilou
Google isn't everything I need help from a real person who open it bc it only said find 76 aranara I did that so now I'm asking ppl who done it
game8 
nilou nahida den wut?
nilou kok nahida collei/yaoyao/baizhu/dmc
Wait wat de prob with game8 
who tf is dmc
candance thoma /rel
complete dogshit advice that they just make up
dendro traveler
devil may cry
oh oke then kqm then

helo
elo
Did u try this: https://youtu.be/HcuhAmuKrNI?si=J8wrSW9PWtAJIM7Y
♦ Complete all aranyaka chain quest first ♦
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPH2f477dnazI76N0IL8zI_r5kn2rLJrf
♦ Static View Guide
https://youtu.be/RcZn24u5wuc
00:00 Intro
00:23 Aranara type explanation
00:47 Aranara map location
00:52 1. Confused Aranara 1
01:23 2. Confused Aranara 2
01:56 3. Confused Aranara 3
02:22 4. Confused Aran...
didnt they say they got the achievement?
happy vday i guess 
wait no, not that achievement, nvm ignore me
anyways thanks
Dude I found all 76 I already try looking it up so unless u already did it ur not helping
rel?
100 exp more to resonate with electro mommy
Owl City - Firefly
UH HELP I DUN HAVE HER WEAPON WATS da other option
you just cant open the wall right? the link i sent is a guide for the clip board that you need to do to unlock the room
Did u do that?
do the static views
noice
I only have 10 of those that show up not 15
u must open the desert to get all 5 location left iirc
have you tried going to the clip board, keeq in mind i think you can only get one /day
and the static views quest, both of them
I have all quest done and the whole map open so it's nun to do with that
wad da heo
Have either one of u unlock that wall bc I don't see nun of this working
How cant u find the treasure room, bcz it clearly appear after done the quest
Yea I'm missing sum but I'm pretty sure it's not chest that mailbox been empty for awhile
weird
I been stuck with 10 and only did one
what the fuck does nahida really want me to get her
Loot them all 
Did that
omg I REALLY WANT HER but but i also wanna play my nilou when is her re run?
Its a long time since her last rerun iirc
how many patches till xianyun again?
nobody would know, it would only be speculation 
Who know, maybe more than a year like eula
how about furina? navia?
also kirara is 4 star right
nobody knows when anyone is being rerun and yes kirara is a 4*
we dont know about any banner past this patch
other than the drip marketting, but we still dont know which half of the patch they are in
Im not in hoyoverse company, how can i know
even if im a hoyo employee, i cant answer that question due to tos
okay okay thank you
idk cuz most of the genshin server have a nerdy ones that almost calculates everything not me asking each of u
yes yes'
this is an offcial server, not allowed to discuss leaks
But i hope fuzina rerun soon
i need someone apply hydro for my lisa hb


Feel more cute, like ayaya or nahihi 
@ayayadogetea
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whi

Hi there! I wanted to ask about this team I'm working on (Pretty early-game account, F2P)
Lynette, Xiangling, Kaeya, Bennett
I'm pretty out of the loop with Genshin, so if anyone has recommendations for changes to be made, do lmk!
Gotcha, so this'd be replacing Kaeya I'm guessing?
Happy that i have qiqi at low ar to carry my razor
And i think a healer with skill is better than healer with ulti like benny 
Or u can just use statue to heal
yep but imo early game i dont think benny buff can change much, a healer without ulti still better
Hmm yeah
Lemme check babara cd
Oh lmao wtf 32s
seem like kuki 15s is da best

Heya! Do someone have good knowledge of builds?
Just ask ur question, ppl that respond typically only respond if they know the answer to ur question

Tell me what do u think?
Yeah marcheuse gives 36 cr but I was wondering coz this shimenawa also gives 50percent na ca bonus 50percent
It’s on ER is for suckers anyway who needs ER
Atk samds so obviously freeze with shenhe furina xianyun(for vv/heal and I don't have Jean) 💀
No burst tho or hard to get burst with this
With Furina MH is the way
it’s not obvious, people come here asking for help with their hutao and the hutao has 0 em
Well my dhenhe have r5 fav too so yeah I will manage somehow
*shenhe
Wtf💀
Ppl are wild like that anyways, other than using erc to check ur er needs, and optimizer to check for ur best possible build, ur good
Do u think if I reach 300cd with marcheuse. It should be better over 50percent na/ca bonus
My Yoimiya has 0 em 😵
Play mono pyro😂
Phys yoi lesgo
Idk
just check with optimizer tbh

I dunno. They're so wierd to use. Can't you just tell me with ur experience 🙂
Mate you need 200 cr
Don’t forget mare hunter also has normal and charged attack dmg bonus
*cd
Yeah but it's only 14smthng I guess
- Marechaussee Hunter (4)
- Blizzard Strayer (4)
~= Shimenawa's Reminiscence (4) - Blizzard Strayer (2) / +18% ATK set (2) / Marechaussee Hunter (2) [Choose Two]
--- build doc
memey shut
Over over cap crit rate is better

15na/ca, 36cr
50na/ca, 15atk
didnt subtract the ER smh
Hm 💀💀ic. You want 200/400 ratio
What is a good minimum i should try to go for with kokomi em build even though I prefer comfort over total dmg on nilou kokomi collei team
Peeposmile's back 



you don't burst anyways
every other rotation is fine unless you have c2
Is nilou actually good for spawning in dendro cores
Nilou hydro app is kinda meh, so she doesn't generate that many dendro cores
it's usually the 2nd hydro unit that generates most cores (Xingqiu, Ayato, Kokomi, Barbara, Candace with the help of other infused on-fielder)

So... razor bennett xingqiu dmc 
What ew no
goddamn they doubled down
may I ask when the next event should be and the 3 pulls? really need it for xianyun
Ain't no way bro said d*ri
Do you have Nahida?
Bloomge without Nahida is pretty cope
I would know. I pulled nilou, then Nahida, then benched both Nahida and nilou
Ignore the raiden
Well im poor
I had noone else
What da puppet doin
no Layla or anything? 
No rosaria?
I mean we don't need shields for this abyss
Ah yes, overvape.
Layla eh since she could lose you vapes against bosses
I don't think you'll have issues vaping with double hydro though
for bosses you kinda do since they're immune to frozen
Hmm rosaria 
so aura just goes poof
OOOH
Yeah you right nvm
You could just go DMC for some burgeon shenanigans 
just run anemo and pump your double hydro dmg
Or you could put childe in jail
I went Nahida last time and my hutao died on the last chamber with the burgeons
And use him for +1 NA TL
Raiden also increases your damage its finee
Dehya with em and er is gonna go crazy
You should join me in the "never cook again" club
I got banned from cooking after making r4 fruit of fulfillment for Nahida 
these metaslaves can’t tell me what to do
And then realizing that I probably gain less DMG from burnmelt that I lose with xiangling
Let me cope
I'll just pull c6 and run shielderless
Sunfire + shenhe 
On second thought i should've used xianyun second half
Would it be ok to have 2 characters using forest regalia on the same team
No thoughts, just do
swap out xingqiu -> furina for more dmg or swap yelan -> furina to keep the IR?
i don't got furina

how to survive dating abyss
time to get Xianyun? 
for the raiden slot
oh, I guess you'd want Furina then
I already have her.. just didn't wanna play her against the wenut cringe
the next abuss is the same right?
hmm, she actually felt good against Wenut for me
I used this
Were you playing plunge raiden
(and yeah, she's a glorified vv ttds holder + healer since raiden's plunges don't do plunge dmg)
I was doing CA → jp
I mean with that team you atleast get the electro swirl on wenut
tbh without Furina, Xianyun probably has way less teams where she feels good
CA jp vs wenut kinda like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8t2XIFgdzY&t=3m
notes : Raiden didn't get buff from Xianyun when plunge because Raiden plunge is considered as Burst dmg
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xiangling no bennet 
indeed

c6 chevy?
my chev is only c0
nah she's still decent at c0
even without her c6 you still get pyro and electo res shred, teamwide atk% buff, healing, pyro particle generation
you also dont need to swap back into her for the res shred which is useful in multiwave content
i am talking about c6 sara though
pre c6 sara isnt a character
wonder if pyro archon over xl will make that the case even more
assuming they'll have ~25s skill duration like other recent archons
no way to know ofc
Finally an archon who doesn't work with hyperbloom

its been over 3 years since genshin was released
still no good off-field pyro damage dealer except xiangling
hyperburgeon or riot 
Pyro is just too strong 
does a Wrio shattering ice team (wrio furina kazuha charlotte) sound good for abyss?(as in practical or not)
as long as freeze works sure
hmm nice to hear xD
im asking since freeze has become rather impractical as the time goes
just don't use it second side this abyss floor 12, since bosses aren't freezable
hmm
Bosses are freezable in 2024
rn im actually thinking about ayaka kazuha mona charlotte
and gaming xianyun bennett furina
it's not uncommon for them to put at least 1 unfreezable enemy on either side either, on this abyss they didn't though
as the teams for my abyss
you shouldn't really only use a freeze team for one of your built teams every abyss
unless you just overinvest into so that you can use it even on unfreezable enemies
like mistsplitter, optimal team options, etc
hmm..
based on what I can understand
you're saying that I shouldnt only rely on a freeze team for one part of the abyss..
at least not for every abyss, yes
I see
just curious on raiden hyperbloom teams, planning on building her with raiden/nahida/yelan but should the last be yaoyao on instructor or kokomi/xq
I kinda feel like cryo has been falling off as a dps element
ive been playing ayaka freeze on the past couple abyss runs for a while, doesn’t comfortably clear sometimes but it works when it wants to
ideally xingqiu from a damage perspective
albiet my ayaka freeze is a bit expensive
I also decided not to touch cryo for my first two teams at least
it can be comfortable since enemies can't move, but it's not a reliable team in every abyss
build?
is dendro res worse
dendro resonance is worse than xingqiu, yes
now idk what team i should use for my abyss
unless you make it freeze with hydro dps and cryo support 
Neuvilette Furina Kazuha [cryo]
hmm..
thats not really a freeze team though
its just using a cryo for another stack on neuv's passive
if freeze doesnt work it doesnt matter
what abt heals though
should i just pray i eventually get kuki
this might be kinda hard on my end xD
considering i have neither kazuha or neuv
and kazuha might rerun soon(i think)
idk about neuv though
LOL
i did say in terms of damage
how about Gaming vape and alhaitham quickbloom
ohh is yaoyao enough to comfortably clear abyss then
there is another option if you want more healing
Gaming xianyun furina bennett
alhaitham nahida xq kuki
prototype amber on nahida and just save her burst for the healing + i-frame, and use xingqiu instead of yaoyao
oh ha
ayaka freeze as a substitute team
yeah
Charlotte can get somewhat good freeze uptime I think?
but it's not using blizzard strayer, the freeze is cosmetic / maybe small convenience
she can't if you don't use her long hold skill
wow u really have ayaka premium
and her long hold skill takes like 2s to use and she doesnt get interrupt immunity when using it
no mistsplitter 😭
i have mistsplitter its sitting on keqing rn
oh...
oh, I thought her burst applied cryo for decently long
f2p btw 
Im guessing your ayaka premium doenst do more damage than either alhaitham quickbloom or neuv solo
nah it doesnt last that long
probably she struggles from time to time but its also prolly bc bad supprt builds
shes fun to play though so idm
also im just
and then consider neuv team rotations are like 25-30s
really bad at genshin
yeah she's pretty fun imo
not much freeze uptime
actually imma not compare her to two giga dmg dealers
why are you playing freeze on neuvi just clock up the dpi and spin lol
both alhaitham and neuv be outperforming hutao so much it becomes funny
i might get neuv prolly not
when was neuv last rerun again
i want navia i have 3 copies of verdict when i was trying to pull for mistsplitter
tbh im alr looking forward to xianyun rerun lmao
wasted too much on ayaka ttp i got her c1
Never
btw is yelan or xingqiu better for alhaitham quickbloom
i have like 3-4 copies of fav warbow 😭
but no fav sword at all
Sadge i have 2 r5 fav swords
fav is so rare nowadays
Technically i dont use either
its always codex or rainslasher or smtn
My kazu got xiphos

i used iron sting for a long while
You can use iron sting with er sands
er sands r so rare
i feel like ive farmed for raiden for so long but her er sands is only like 6.6cd only
and fun
bro has one of the most unique kits
damn
how does alhaitham nahida yelan kuki sound
play who u like… i rlly need miss amerciana navia on my acct
Good
i think thats pretty mucb the standard team there
ya but at the same time most people have nahida yelan
hmm
now one side of my abyss has a team
for the other..
the gaming vape team works right
it's quite good, only consideration is whether Furina > Yelan
gaming xianyun furina bennett
You can just play nahida hb and alhaitham spread the other side
I found I want off-field hydro for so many teams that getting all three (furina xq yelan) was a good investment
damn nice
my current conclusion is:
Gaming xianyun furina bennett
nahida alhaitham yelan kuki
The gaming team is good
And keep fav
Ye people were complaining about a second xingqiu but atp id even pull for a third xingqiu
true
alright
imma bench ayaka and charlotte tbh
give me a 4th I guess I'm always running Neuvilette with Furina now, for double hydro both sides
and fischl as well
With the pyro nation hydro will probably only get better
I'd honestly like to have another off-field hydro like Furina who doesn't depend on normal attacks though
Furina is tied to Neuvilette, so now if I want to make Xianyun teams I find she isn't available
Ayato
Im saying diluc or gaming fits in here
Is there an AR requirement for doing Lantern Rite? If so, what is it?
Adventure Rank 20 or above
Oh okay, thats not too bad
Oh ye hows this
Starting entirely fresh on a new account, but I'm hoping to get there before the event ends lol
whats the team
goodluck
42% cr 
Xianyun xq benne
Its hunters
42 is overcapping
oh
wait it is right
I don't have furina 
get her
Not by a long shot. Mh gives you 36cr
hmm 42+ 36...
yeah 78 not too bad
get furina honestly she complements gaming pretty well
I know
you can use xq with alhaitham
I need furina for hutao before anything else
oh..
Is sumeru or fontaine better for primogems?
Sumeru has more just because of its sheer size
i would choose my mental health over primos
So i should explore sumeru for more the quickest primos?
fontaine
Alright
fontaine is stacked with exquisite chests
sumeru with common ones
would depend on what other crit buffs there are
like a char ascending with crit rate, or Xianyun's 4 - 10% crit rate buff
It's an alright ratio
Definitely low on CV though
So it could be way better
That goblet...
Tragic
I think Xiao and Wrio are the main chars where it gets pretty tight with overcapping
Yeah
looking at Xiao again:
5% base
19.2% ascension
36% MH
4 - 10% Xianyun A1
~70% before weapon and substats
one crit roll on each artifact gives another ~19.4%
so if I roll into crit 2-3x, he's capped
making me wish I pulled on the Neuv / Hutao weapon banner
It's kinda weird that both BP polearms give crit rate
But now I think about, don't all BP weapons give crit rate
They do lol
when blackcliff is your f2p option 
I mean that is his f2p weapon yeah
Natlan BP weapon series, surely
Doubt they will introduce any during Natlan
We didn't get new weapons until fontaine
yeah, no idea
If they add any more it won't be until after Sheznaya is my assumption
maybe that's a thing they do now, but there's definitely no pattern
Yeah true
They might want to give regular buyers time to R5 everything
That was around the timeline for the second series I think
right, that makes sense
then there's also farming strongboxing Vermilion so you can use pjws, if you got it from standard
technically 11.3 rolls of atk% versus the 9.3 rolls of crit from MH
Yeah
I am going for Marechaussee for my Xianyun though
I'm done with vermillion lmao
I still don't have a good 4pc MH
I don't really like deviating from resin efficient domains
I guess strongbox is resin efficient
And I need one if I wanna play Lyney, too
but I don't even have pjws, and pulling that and getting it from standard later would feel really bad
xiao dosent have any good f2p weapons right?
its r1
I started playing at the end of the event
didnt rlly understand that game
Blackcliff is alright
Missive R5 < R1 Blackcliff
I got r5 missive, but it seems like a waste
not even making use of the EM
just not a great weapon situation
Is this a good team?
Nahida
Xingqui
Lisa
Barbara
Lisa hyperbloom is pain
Especially as solo electro
She will need like 200+ ER
So then her hyperblooms will take a huge hit cuz you can't get nearly as much EM
try to get Kuki, if you can
maybe raiden, but that's a 5-star pull that performs very similar to a 4-star in that role
Lisa js my only electro but i can make a burgeon team instead
Thoma?
I only have Amber yanfei and xiangling
most pyro units apply too much pyro, so you end up with burning and very little burgeons
I'm hoping the pyro archon (next region) will make burgeon viable 
bloom on its own isn't a very good reaction, sadly. You'd either want a hyperbloom trigger unit or Nilou (who buffs bloom to the point it's actually good)
(one thing you could do with Sucrose is build high EM on her and swirl electro to trigger the blooms. but it's awkward with Nahida, you'll usually have a dendro aura so no swirls)
she can be a 4th unit, yeah
but it's actually because her burst doesn't hit bloom cores at all
do you have Fischl?
Nope
maybe just run aggravate for now:
Nahida, Beidou, Sucrose, Lisa
you can on-field either Sucrose or Lisa
Beidou kinda wants her c2 to be good, and she's largely a unit for AoE
I could see running the hyperbloom team you mentioned, if you don't have better alternatives
I can send a pic of my characters if you want
yeah, feel free to post it here
(this page lets you screenshot chars + levels + constellations, without logging into genshin)
I know that i dont have nahida but i just need 5 more pulls to have her guaranted
And i can still get the free liyue character
In 35 mins I have another shot at an Anemo vision guys
Truly the most exciting moment of the week
i hope you get geo again
That's not possible I already have geo
Piss vision best vision
You're WRONG you fool!
Worst vision! Together with DENDRO because it looks like belch!

NOOO IM VOMIT COLORED GIVE ME PYRO MF
you’re pyro wdym
oh nvm, you’re grass
are my raiden good yet
?
is this the catch?
engulfing
seems good id like sligtly more cr but its pretty good
Electro Dmg Gob?
i go for somthing like 80/140
Seems pretty insane yeah

Eh? That's not even a better ratio
can u show us ur enka card
the best ratio here is like 73.5/147, what you suggest is basically the same avg damage as they got
Like you're right if you count Sara C6 Ig
Then you'd want more crit rate for sure
Ye
cr is importnt for burst dps’#
but that would be more than 75% too
tf
you'd want like 90/120 in that case
Yea fair
c6 sara insane fr
which one is better pookies
its either 90/140 or 68/150 no inbetween
either rational or nahida furina jean(idk what its called)
no xianyun?
sadly
(basically Jean but you get ttds)
Why not Bennett
instead of Nahida
Idk
It would be way better
anyways do i go er sands or not? Inhave a cracked er sands
No not with Catch
if you have a crit weapon or her sig you'd go ER sands
The issue with the second build is that i have no cr
would the bp cr weapon be better than catch?
huh?
Oh BP
i can get thenother one
Yeah no the BP weapons are not better iirc
average crit multiplier:
1 + 0.9 * 1.4 = 2.26x
1 + 0.68 * 1.5 = 2.02x
Deathmatch is similar to Catch, maybe at R5 it is better
but do you have R5 deathmatch lol
oki so we stay on catch ig
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds
I'd check this or the kqm sheet
though your buffs are different so maybe just optimizer
nO ill just try ut out myself
this is assuming you included 12% crit rate from catch in those ratios btw
if not, then you need to include it
optimizer makes me pain
yea ik ill try to grt 90/150 ig
I haven't used it much myself tbh
inputting stuff on mobile was awkward
i dont have a laptop/pc so i use my phone usa,ly
btw, now that I got a new laptop: are any of the auto scan tools for optimizer okay to use?
Or will hoyo come down on me n_n
I don't think the autoscans will incur actions on your account, but I wouldn't garantuee it either. What I will say is that the autoscans for me aren't great, the artifacts they pick up are slightly different than what they actually are in-game - I used artiscan recently, the non automated one, and that one picked up everything correctly
The downside of that is that it does not offer you the option to do characters or weapons, but they are relatively easy to add manually
i dont know of any cases where action was taken against people's accounts for using the non-artiscan scanners, but it is a grey area on ToS so to play it safe you ought to avoid using them
artiscan is safe and doesn't breach ToS at all
atkeast its pretty unlike this guacamoly lookin ass color
@haughty lotus i got nahida finally
now who should i pull next? is it kazuha or someone who should i give priority to pull
pull xiao very meta trust
@sour birch
👽🔫
may be memesicles don't know me
but hydro knows me
sorry for pings
thou hast summoned this one
hydro
👽👽
uh idk... kazuha is always a strong option tho
i havent played this game in like a month so idk what banners r coming up
kazuha yes i need him for freeze teams
ohh i see okay
it is what it is
characters i want (i dont like shenhe but she is support for ayaka) 🥺
who should i prioritize after kazuha
Are burgeon teams good?
iz dat skill issue
level kuki to 90
play alhaitham yelan nahida kuki bottom half
play national or ayaka top half
yes
bro started 2 days ago and having thoma c6
What about this team
Nahida
Xingqui
Barbara
Sucrose
hb with lisa is better imo
Use the lisa
lisa can trigger bloom with normal atk
What would the lisa team be?
the problem is hydro application
I have xingqui idk if he is good for hydro application?
What about
Nahida
Lisa
Xingqui
Sucrose or barbara
yeah but u need a lot energy recharge
Also have beidou but she is my only other electro
and she need a lot energy recharge too
better stick with lisa cuz she uhhh can trigger hyperbloom, remember to put some element mastery on her
c2 and c4 are the only cons that really help thoma burgeon, c6 isn't needed
waiting for nahida
then my lisa will become a wisdom god of monstadt
why are you doing hyperbloom with aggravate is right there...
still waiting for real artifact loadout, i need tenacity on yaoyao for keqing and deepwood when go with lisa 
I'm farming for yelan rn, which feather is best to have on her for now?
what ever balences your rate better
rate?
alright
Good team or not?
Nahida
Lisa
Xingqui
Barbara
And who should i chose from the event?
yaoyao or xiangling if u dont have
@crimson notch long term you'll probably get c0 of every 4-star
so for long term value, pick someone who has a valuable c6
good constellations:
Xingqiu c2, c6
Ga Ming c4, c6
Xiangling c3, c4
Beidou c2
oh yh thx
What's better for Xiao: r1 Homa, or c2 Xianyun?
weapon banners being what they are and c1 Xianyun being good for exploration, I could almost see myself rather getting her c2 than his r1
do wat ur heart tell u 
not a big fan of the pull whatever you like adice ^.^

it's just.. directionless ^^
oh. germany
wasn't specifically directed at you btw, just a general thing 
ok so uhh lets try put homa on ur left hand, and c2 xianyun on ur right hand, and think: "Frank-Walter Steinmeier told me i should choose this" 
oh its homa
nice 
do you have PJWS? Or do you not have artifacts with low enough CR to be able to play MH and PJWS
don't have pjws.
I'm currently planning to run MH on him rather than strongbox Vermillion, that's why I'm asking about Homa
ur president told u that u should choose homa 
maybe shitposting everytime someone asks a question in a help channel isnt very helpful for the help channel
Maybe xiaomains discord has reliable calcs, I found some napkin math that seems to indicate that c2 XY is a 20% increase per plunge on xiao
thanks 🙂
https://www.reddit.com/r/XiaoMains/comments/1ahpgzr/indepth_personal_tc_table_for_xianyun/ this one is a bit more in depth, this indicates even way more than 20%
If these numbers are even remotely correct then I guess c2 xianyun must be significantly better than homa
and they concluded Furina cons are even better, if I'm reading that right
in other words I shouldn't worry about his weapon
Yeah I'm not sure what weapon this is assuming for xiao in the calcs, but XYs weapon at least is far down in priority it seems
i hecking love 100% dmg bonus
funny how running Furina is still optimal despite him already getting so much dmg%
Missive: ~410k rotation damage
Blackcliff: ~387k - 446k depending on stacks (defeated opponents)
Homa (> 50%) 471k
looks like I'll stick to missive unless I need Blackcliff to balance my crit ratio
idk if I'll pull XY constellations, but I think pulling a 5-star weapon is off the table if it's worse than support constellations
how much em are neede for nahida??
balance all em, and crit, get as many as you can while you have enough crit on a team that isn't a nilou bloom (otherwise get an abundant amount of em)
generally:
EM, crit rate, crit damage are all similarly good for her.
balance your crit ratio. (about twice as much crit dmg as crit rate, including her passive)
if she's used to buff another unit's EM, you'll want to make sure someone on the team has ~1000em. (It doesn't always need to be Nahida)
I wonder if we'll ever get a cdmg polearm that has a more generic effect than being sub 50%
So many polearmusers have a good team now where they want to use homa but can't proc the effect properly
yeah, good question. pulling him homa would be awkward if we then get a better one
Chloride and chiori are both confirmed sword ig, I wonder if arlechinno or maybe siegewinne is polearm
how's Chiori confirmed sword 
She has swords on her picture
... I mean
Well I guess it's not confirmed confirmed
her drip marketing
how about Mika and Raiden
But I would be surprised
Did raiden have makotos sword in drip marketing?
Or did she have EL
everyone other than ZL has the same art as their drip
so Raiden is her sword-pulling animation
sword
Oh okay, then maybe shes not sword

Chlorinde used a sword in the AQ so I guess she probably is though
yeh Clorinde uses Iron Sting so 
must be funny if she uses anything other than swords
i thought we get a new weapon type after chevruse gets a drip, then mika with an actual bow that matches with crossbow
Yeah true I guess drip marketing isn't fully reliable for weapon
just wait for game cutscenes
actually no I forgot about Childe
didn't he make an L sign on his forehead on his drip
is c0 candance good for bloom?
onfielder the rest of my team are off fielders
i think my other characters can make that specific spot a flex, but i’m not sure
nilou, nahida, yaoyao, woould be the other teammates
and then candance would be 4pc emblem,
recharge sands, the catch
you'd rather Barb + DMC pre-c6 Candace
so back to xq with nahida on fielder?
does my em and cv good enough??
why do you come to that conclusion 
but sure Xq works
i’m trying to slap together a bloom team to clear til floor 11-3 for the primos

uh, ok?
for the 2nd hydro you want to build full EM btw
unless it's Yao on-field with triple EM utilizing Candace's infusion
i have my yaoyao built as the healer
she’s slightly overboard but i am terrible with managing health
gonna level them up
so full em barbs?
2pc clam and maiden for the healing thing.
goal is to maximize her healing bc i know it’s kinda 50/50
you'd want to maximize damage so 4p Gilded/Paradise Lost
that’ll be on barbs
yes?
yeah
i’m trying to ensure they don’t die on field bc i am that stupid
i just wanna clear to floor 11-3
yaoyao doesn't really have much bloom ownership if it's a team like yaoyao, nilou, barbara, nahida. you could build her for more healing here if you needed
ye
i figured if i have no healer or another healer who’s doing all the heavy em lifting, someone’s gotta do all the heavy healing
working on balancing that crit ratio.
her energy recharge being low isn’t an issue with my team
she’s got raiden & yelan, and jean if you count her as a battery too?
idk.
double hydro + raiden
im sorry to say but all of your artifacts are bad
I guess the plume is ok if it rolls crit/hp last stat
Waow! Lucky!
i went blind and thought def is crit dmg
Is sac good for Barbara in a Nahida team or should I switch weapons?
for nilou bloom, yes
ok, good - I'm playing a Nahida-DMC-Barbara-Nilou team. I just need to farm 5* HP Maidens since Barabara's current ones are mix of 5 and 4 stars
.
uh, don't do that
barbara is supposed to be built with elemental mastery for nilou bloom
4pc paradise lost/4pc gilded - or 4pc clam set if you want a mix between damage with a bit more healing
wait, really? I was checking KQM and it was saying for Pure Healer I'll need maiden's
this isn't pure healer barbara
its on-field bloom barbara for the team you described
But I use Nilou as my on fielder, not Barbara
Should I be using Barbara as On Field then?
well you should use barbara as the on-fielder
i can say the same
what's the diff between having either on field?
you'll also heal the damage from your blooms
using barbara on-field is more hydro application, which means more bloom generation and damage
nilou still triggers some blooms from off-field from her ring anyway
for this year's lantern rite, is the kite shop the only unique shop available this time round?
You can buy some furnishings of kites in the harbor
Small 80k for 4 kites
seems reasonable
Which 4 star should i chose from the event?
Who do you have already? And constellations?
Are there any characters you like from the ones you don't have yet?








