#📌gimshim-help

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jolly junco
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it wouldn't surprise me if with xianyun, EM sands is better with dragonsbane. though I haven't calc'd it

grave mica
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also Itto plunge is so satisfying

jolly junco
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Deathmatch is good, but you do need more EM

grave mica
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I don't have an em sands on crimson

jolly junco
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you may need to consider 2pc mixed sets

opal surge
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comparing EM and HP sands with exact same roll values

grave mica
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also I have waaaaaaaaaay more hunter pieces

jolly junco
grave mica
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I can level this

jolly junco
grave mica
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what about the rest of the pieces?

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How much em am I looking for?

opal surge
jolly junco
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Ah

opal surge
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Optimizing with the best EM sands I have its a 0,1% downgrade to go EM sands lmao

grave mica
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in the meantime

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how bad is he

grave mica
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that's how it turned out

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247 em now

jolly junco
grave mica
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ok as for the team

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Furina Xianyun Yelan?

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or XQ instead?

opal surge
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I like yelan more, but for really aggressive enemies you should consider XQ

jolly junco
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Xingqiu would be more comfortable to play anyway

opal surge
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If you get knocked around you wont plunge

grave mica
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I know the Xianyun and XQ could be better

opal surge
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Yelan/XQ have way too much ER for this team

grave mica
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so HP/ATK time?

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or different weapons?

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oh XQ is already on atk time

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but I do have an HP time for yelan

jolly junco
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without any favonius weapons it looks a bit rough

hollow folio
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how do i unlock this

opal surge
hollow folio
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yh but what is that

grave mica
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how are you ar 56

hollow folio
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eh idk

grave mica
opal surge
jolly junco
hollow folio
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... i thought i done that alr

grave mica
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I prefer Yelan tho

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I often do Nahida, Xingqiu, Fischl and Kuki on the other half

warped oracle
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swap them

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Hu Tao really needs Xingqiu for the hydro application, unless your Yelan is c2

grave mica
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I think that wouldn't be enough hydro

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so Yelan and Furina isn't enough hydro for plunge tao?

jolly junco
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it should be

warped oracle
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oh wait nvm I misunderstood the team

opal surge
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Yelan furina is enough

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You just have no shield and no interruption to resistance in that variant

grave mica
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I didn't get that knocked around when I tried it

opal surge
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You are quite prone to lose 1 or 2 plunges against aggressive enemies

grave mica
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ok that's something I can swap easily

hollow folio
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u can acctually use this in abyss 💀

grave mica
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I'll try yelan with an HP time piece

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13% extra crit dmg, nice

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I could use fading on yelan with er sands

opal surge
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think ud rather use favge and hp sands

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xy might struggle else

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and idk how ur furina is looking

grave mica
copper mist
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why does she have soo much attack?

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almost 60% attack from substats

grave mica
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that's true

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I'll see what can be done

next river
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how good is the song of days for xianyun?

grave mica
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but already my hu is doing over 100k

copper mist
next river
grave mica
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viri is good on her tho

copper mist
grave mica
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especially in a team with swirlable main dps

next river
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okay thanks

stark sandal
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only if played with xiao

copper mist
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I mean having VV on the team is good

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Even with Furina on Xiao team

stark sandal
stark sandal
opal surge
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She should still hold a set in that team

copper mist
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Idk if they even play Xiao

stark sandal
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she don't really need one, all she needs is high atk PeepoSmile

grave mica
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I think the highest plunge I got was 107k

opal surge
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Bennet or ZL also don't need a set, yet they should always hold a set that contributes to team DPS

median glade
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I give zhongli catch
HMMM

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🍴

stark sandal
opal surge
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Not only are you randomly assuming that they are playing a suboptimal team, but even if they play this godforsaken team they shouldnt be recommended to run rainbow over OHC/SoDP and 2p2p atk%, not like atk% mainstat pieces are hard to find

stark sandal
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they didn't mention the team anyways so i just went objectively/generally PeepoSmile

opal surge
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Its not objective, its literally only this random team that you mentioned which isnt even the optimal team for the main DPS you're mentioning

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You could not be further from generalizing

stark sandal
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yeah i meant generalizing

copper mist
opal surge
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Generalizing would be recommending VV; as the large majority of her teams want her on VV: You're doing the opposite of generalizing, youre focusing on one team noone plays and then recommending the wrong set for it

stark sandal
copper mist
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Well you know now it's not a team anyone will recommend to you

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So you weren't generalizing, you were doing the opposite, specifying for your own situation lol

stark sandal
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to buff more you need atk tho, right? bcatEvilSmile

opal surge
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So why would you not do 2p2p attack instead of telling them to just go rainbowset

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its 8 substats of attack in sets

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well actually its 6-8

stark sandal
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maybe you have few artifacts or sum like that? when you max ATK on the optimizer it'll slap ur highest atk combination, and it might not have 2 atk 2 atk pieces Thinkge

strange scarab
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you may leave the kitchen now

opal surge
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If you only want attack, like you said (which isnt true, you need ER), then how high are the chances you think that someone is able to get 2 atk %main stat pieces on glad

copper mist
opal surge
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And how much resin do you think they'd need to spend to find anothe rattack% mainpiece on a different atk set, + a random feather or flower

dull smelt
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Does my xianyun have enough atk for her level?

opal surge
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Also, just because you may not have the set currently, doesnt mean you cant farm for it. With this logic most main DPS would be stuck running rainbow sets forever

stark sandal
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every character needs er

copper mist
strange scarab
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why skill first though

copper mist
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Yeah idk why they are levelling skill and even NA over her burst

dull smelt
strange scarab
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but at c0 you wont be able to use it pretty often

stark sandal
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is it worth it to play jean as a dps? or should i just play her support?

grave mica
dull smelt
stark sandal
copper mist
grave mica
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plunge yelan

strange scarab
dull smelt
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Jean is the only anemo character I don't have

stark sandal
grave mica
dull smelt
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Plus I'm still building her

strange scarab
dull smelt
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This was just an in-progress thing

copper mist
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I think it's incredibly silly but I also like playing other characters as more dps oriented

grave mica
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what's the best non-xianyun hu tao team?

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c1 furina

opal surge
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No real best

copper mist
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Depends really if you wanna unga bunga or play well

opal surge
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Pick between vv vape and double hydro

copper mist
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VV vape and double hydro are both good

grave mica
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so flex tape?

copper mist
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...no

grave mica
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Furina Jean Yelan Hu?

copper mist
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Why is that called flex tape

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That's an okay comp tho

grave mica
opal surge
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I don't actually think this calcs higher than XQ yelan zl, does it?

copper mist
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It probably does

grave mica
jolly junco
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the low-cost team favored by speedrunners tends to be tao, bennett, kazuha, yelan

grave mica
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don't question me

dull smelt
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This was my dps xianyun, replace the flower currently on her with the flower in the second pic

opal surge
stark sandal
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would bennett c6 buff more than jean vv in a hu tao furina yelan team?

pastel zealot
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dps xianyun 🗿

grave mica
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I was thinking ZL, Xinyan, Gorou and Itto

opal surge
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Xinyan

grave mica
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Xianyun

dull smelt
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You know you can edit messages after you send them, right?

copper mist
copper mist
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So maybe for one rotation it's fine but it will be ass after that

jolly junco
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speedrunners tend to be good at the game mechanically and have good builds

dull smelt
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Thoughts on this flower? The last upgrade rolled into def

opal surge
grave mica
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90k Itto plunges

jolly junco
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au-i_WpGonk this person has some good low-cost tao speedruns on his channel

lwk

15 + 13 + 13 = 41s
Cards: 25hp, 25hp, sprint

Assuming all charged attacks are vaped and crit, ASIMON can be done in 7N2Cs, dendro chicken can be done in 6N2Cs and Coppelia can be done in 1N1C + 6N2Cs. So the limit for all 3 chambers should be 14 + 12 + 12 = 38s for a continuous run. Also my Yelan should have been on 4pc Noblesse but i forgot ...

▶ Play video
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just make sure to mute the cringe music

dull smelt
copper mist
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Less variables

dull smelt
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True. Out of curiosity, what character would benefit most from the noblesse flower?

stark sandal
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the priority in the optimizer is dps>support>sub dps right?

jolly junco
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prioritise optimising the characters you want to play more first? its your choice

dull smelt
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Huh. Ok, lemme pull up my Bennett build

copper mist
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Any support really in a team with an Attack scaling carry

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but they rarely care about other stats than ER

dull smelt
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Here's my Bennett build

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Idk where all the er came from tbh

opal surge
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Is 2p ohc intended for something specific?

rugged sparrow
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phat heals

dull smelt
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Healing

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As indicated by the healing bonus headpiece

copper mist
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cuz all units you play with him care about attack

dull smelt
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What does 4pc noblesse do?

jolly junco
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if you click on an artifact in your inventory you can read what it does

dull smelt
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Oh, wow.

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I can't do that ATM, I'm at school

strange scarab
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you could google

dull smelt
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Why do I keep forgetting google exists

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Also these are my three best dps characters (and yes, I know I need to get a mare headpiece on neuv)

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Also, I have yet to get a good anemo dmg bonus goblet

grave mica
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@opal surge the highest I got were 93k Itto plunges

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what's the best bow for a c6 faru?

stark sandal
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is it worth it to play raiden hyperbloom (nahida) with c2?

grave mica
stark sandal
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i dont have neuv

strange scarab
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c2 raiden? you still can but using dps build in other team would yield better results

jolly junco
grave mica
rugged sparrow
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are you not mistaking her for Sara

jolly junco
dull smelt
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Oops wrong image

jolly junco
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her personal damage at c6 is okay but nothing crazy

stark sandal
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what teams can i play with nahida?

grave mica
strange scarab
stark sandal
grave mica
jolly junco
stark sandal
strange scarab
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tighnari nahida fischl sucrose

grave mica
stark sandal
stark sandal
jolly junco
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why sucrose, they have yae

strange scarab
grave mica
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kuki def triple em

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gilded or flower

stark sandal
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what build does nahida want tho?

grave mica
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I have em dendro em

stark sandal
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which team is better also?

nahida kuki yelan xingqiu or yae nahida fischl zhongli?

grave mica
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but with mine you can't have hu tao double vape or national teams for the other half

stark sandal
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skyward harp on ganyu or sara c6? i also have elegy or mounn's r4

grave mica
mortal sparrow
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Does furina or xinqui generate more dendro seeds for hyperbloom?

grave mica
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depends on the dendro

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but xq has more hydro application

median glade
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always xingqiu why depend

grave mica
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also furina ain't great in dendro teams

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at least most

mortal sparrow
stark sandal
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@grave mica does kuki want this turned on in hyperbloom?

lusty cloud
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should i ever have yaoyao and nahida on the same team?

charred junco
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Feels like a waste of a slot

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ER and off field dendro should already be high enough

lusty cloud
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who should i use as a 4th member for an aggravate team with raiden keqing and nahida?

rugged sparrow
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replace either Raiden or Keqing with Fischl and run an anemo on 4th slot, preferably Sayu/Jean/Xianyun since they also double as healer for your defensive option

otherwise Sucrose will also do, just slap Proto Amber on either Suc or Nahida

lusty cloud
rugged sparrow
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unlucky

lusty cloud
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and im already using xianyun on diluc plunge

ripe surge
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what cons should diluc have for dragonstrike?

lusty cloud
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abyss struggles 😔

rugged sparrow
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0

median glade
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0

ripe surge
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what build and weap?

rugged sparrow
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check pinned

lusty cloud
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run crimson witch

olive isle
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So I am planning to play Furina, Raiden, and Nahida for fun-

lusty cloud
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wait serp spine cost money

jolly junco
unkempt river
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So I want to make a team with Nahida, Furina and Raiden for fun. Should I get YaoYao to be the healer? Would rather not use burst to heal and I need some reliable skill heals.

rugged sparrow
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if you wanna just press E > afk then Yaoyao is probably the ideal choice there sure
just know that the team is rather... GanyUh

unkempt river
unkempt river
rugged sparrow
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Furina in bloom teams is just, don't
but since it's for funsies who cares ig

unkempt river
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Alr

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Good enough to have fun in overworld haha

lusty cloud
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i want jean sm

lusty cloud
unkempt river
rugged sparrow
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Yao helps with dendro reso + your afk strat so otzShrug

lusty cloud
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overload strat pisses me off sm

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esp when bounty enemy has electro res

unkempt river
rugged sparrow
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pretty much, yes

unkempt river
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I can just use kukis artifacts and dbane?

rugged sparrow
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yep

unkempt river
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No need to refine dbane?

rugged sparrow
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no

unkempt river
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alr thanks

rugged sparrow
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also to note, Nahida builds EM and crit eitherway, just try to balance your stats accordingly

unkempt river
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Also best healbot set for yaoyao 🤣

rugged sparrow
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I'd personally run double EM pieces instead

unkempt river
rugged sparrow
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sure

unkempt river
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Alr, don't have a single EM goblet but I'll use that when I get it then

rugged sparrow
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who knows you get a decent on-set Deepwood Flower so you can run a better off-set EM gob

lusty cloud
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farming artifacts for 6 different characters is tough

copper mist
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You should kind of go one at a time

unkempt river
rugged sparrow
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well, just a note in the future

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flower is 7 good sub rolls, goblet is 5 (including atk which is kinda meh)

lusty cloud
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Which covers 3 characters

copper mist
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Ah okay that kinda makes sense

lusty cloud
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Then after that it’s the hell of farming crimson witch thunderbird and emblem 🥰

stark sandal
copper mist
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Also aren't these different from the ones you showed before? I remember you had Homa Raiden and Mouun's Yelan

stark sandal
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they are, a bit

woeful narwhal
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Between Wandere's Troupe and Crimson Witch, which is better for Yanfei?

shrewd oak
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Who is the better DPS xiao C6 or Raiden shogun C6

haughty lotus
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Raiden c3

copper mist
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With Xianyun/Furina/Faruzan

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But at that investment, "best" and "better" is quite irrelevant

shell dawn
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guys how do f2p players normally pull for characters? For example nahida, do you stop pulling when you get her c0 or do you keep trying to increase the amount of times you get her?

rugged sparrow
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that depends?

shell dawn
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wdym?

rugged sparrow
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being "f2p" doesnt tell a lot, we don't know if

  • they have saved a lot of primos or not
  • do they have decent roster or not
  • whether they like the character
  • are they saving for someone else
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there are plenty of f2p players having c6 of certain 5-star characters already

shell dawn
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hmmm

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well it would be my 2nd 5 star character and I have around 30 pull pity and around 40 pulls available

rugged sparrow
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Nahida is a very good pull value, go for her if you'd like to play dendro-focused teams

shell dawn
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is there a constellation lvl where she gets a big upgrade or nah?

rugged sparrow
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c2

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she's like Raiden, c1 barely helps, but c2 is a pretty sizeable upgrade

shell dawn
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alr ill keep that in mind

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thanks for the help

rugged sparrow
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if you still don't have a good roster (team options and character diversity basically), I'd recommend stopping at c0

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expanding your roster helps you to clear abyss easier whenever it changes, cuz sometimes it can be unfavorable for certain teams

shell dawn
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I see

charred junco
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As a mostly f2p (I use Google rewards for welkin), I pull for the 4s and their cons more than I aim for 5s. Many might disagree, but that's how I enjoy pulling the most.

shell dawn
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Google rewards?

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the points you get when you buy apps?

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or is that something different

charred junco
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@shell dawn

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Surveys and stuff from Google, it's an app

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And it can only be used for buying things through the Google Play store - including in game purchases such as genshin

shell dawn
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oh thats cool

charred junco
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If I log into an old account and level them to 10ar, can I still use them as a lantern rite link?

sick quarry
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Xiangling C3 or Yaoyao C1
Which is better

jolly junco
opal surge
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So no, but you can get alts ready for the next returner invites event

stark sandal
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is she fine for hyperbloom?

charred junco
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Rip, thanks mommy

serene sandal
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is nahida or xianyun better for me to pull rn? i kinda want xianyu but idm nahida if it means my team comps avialable is better

kindred dune
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Just curious, but I swear a long time ago you could not teleport at all during combat? Like in 1.1 or something. Can anyone confirm or deny? Maybe I'm just getting it confused with the teapot

kindred dune
latent flicker
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soup!! tis fun to play but can it work in abbyss?

opal surge
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Soup is okayge in abyss but im not sure thats an ideal soup

jolly junco
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an ideal soup is potato and leek seasoned with salt

kindred dune
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I would ditch Sayu for some more sub DPS, you've got plenty of healing... but yeah you could probably get through 10-3 once they're all level 80

celest flint
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Would Raiden, Furina, Xianyun and Bennet work as a team or is bennet not doing too much?

latent flicker
unkempt river
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Who would be the best 5* for me to pull value wise? Was thinking about Kazuha or Neuvilette. Alhaitham also seems pretty cool. Kokomi is on my wanted list too... But who would of most value? Doesn't have to be a character from this list I just mentioned.

hollow folio
unkempt river
hollow folio
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depends on what team u wanna play

hollow folio
unkempt river
hollow folio
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but zhongli is kinda a comfy char so he doesnt makes ur acc stronger but just way easier

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kazuha can help with raiden hyper carry
baizhu can help in any bloom team same with kokomi

unkempt river
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mhmm

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Zhongli is gonna take a while to rerun

hollow folio
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yup

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same for baizhu

unkempt river
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mhm

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How would Neuvi be?

opal surge
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Neuvilette is one of the better on fielders, but at the end of the day hes an on fielder. If you have 2 you like you dont need them whatsoever

hollow folio
opal surge
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Going for onfielders when you have 2 good ones and you dont have the good variety supports is a little sus in my opinion, but if you like an on fielder feel free

median glade
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I don't see any

hollow folio
# unkempt river Who are my on-feilders haha

well there are stronger on field dps and u there gonna be re running a lot in the next patches and i would go for kazuha(to buff the dps) or for a healer which is a bit less value acc wise

unkempt river
median glade
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sure

lusty cloud
neon harness
keen condor
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If I lose and don’t get nahida do I aim for miko? Even if I don’t have any dendros.

raven valve
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C3 xingqiu or C2 xiangling or C0 gaming ?

quaint fern
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do you want gaming?

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New character > cons imo

raven valve
quaint fern
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But getting closer to c4 xiangling is a good thing

raven valve
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Ive pulled 40 wishes and didn’t got him

raven valve
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I think ill go for xingqiu cons

neon harness
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For what?

quaint fern
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Id go for xiangling over xq

raven valve
neon harness
high lark
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is diluc good

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I got them on nahida banner

high lark
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please

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are they good

haughty lotus
neon harness
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Diluc is aight

high lark
haughty lotus
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C6 xingqiu is also insane tho melonmunch

neon harness
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Not as insane as u

untold pecan
worthy siren
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does xingqiu or yelan provide faster hydro for yoimiya?

opal surge
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Xingqiu is faster hydro app, but yelan keeps up with yoi with no issues

raven valve
haughty lotus
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Yeah

livid bloom
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guys

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should u have some sacred seals left after u collect all 60 of them in the 3.1?

kindred garnet
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what would be the best weapon on raiden if i don’t want to fish for the catch?

haughty hawk
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meow

haughty lotus
haughty hawk
kindred dune
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uwu

kindred garnet
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fishing makes me tired 😭

feral reef
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Another day, another W Memesicles day

dusty cape
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time whale or money whale, you decide

haughty lotus
kindred garnet
haughty lotus
kindred garnet
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i somehow still dont have that either 🫠

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i keep getting the sword, i have 3 r5 swords but not the polearm

mortal sparrow
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Good evening, should i upgrade my furinas E or Q skill or my Raidens E or Q skill? They are both lvl 9 and yeah

unkempt river
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Do I go for Yaoyao?

haughty lotus
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No

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Go for xiangling or xingqiu constellations

unkempt river
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C6 Xq or C2 Xl?

haughty lotus
high lark
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Is there teams for diluc?

unkempt river
haughty lotus
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She shields

unkempt river
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Heals?

haughty lotus
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No

high lark
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Is there teams for diluc?

unkempt river
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They don't fit the same role then

high lark
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I just got them

haughty lotus
unkempt river
high lark
unkempt river
haughty lotus
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Both help with surviving, same role

unkempt river
high lark
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Is he good to level up tho?

haughty lotus
unkempt river
haughty lotus
unkempt river
shadow lynx
high lark
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He looks cooo do sure

high lark
haughty lotus
unkempt river
high lark
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Yep

mortal sparrow
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yup

quaint fern
mortal sparrow
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idk which one to put to lvl 10 first.

haughty lotus
# mortal sparrow yup

Raiden skill buff caps at lvl 9 so don’t level it. Crown raiden burst and Furina burst and skill if you want idk

high lark
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BYE I GOT A 5 STAR WEAPON💀

mortal sparrow
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wym skill buff caps at lvl 9?

unkempt river
high lark
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SKYWARD PRIDE

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uh

untold pecan
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ew

high lark
shadow lynx
untold pecan
unkempt river
haughty lotus
high lark
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Oh.

mortal sparrow
shadow lynx
haughty lotus
haughty lotus
high lark
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Isxinyan good

haughty lotus
high lark
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why did I get another

unkempt river
high lark
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uh

unkempt river
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Would C2 Xl or C6 Xq be of any GREAT upgrade? I know C2 Xl is one step closer to C4 but yeaaa

haughty lotus
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C6 xingqiu is very good, c2 xiangling is just a stepping stone to c4 idk

high lark
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Is there teams for xingqiu?

haughty lotus
mortal sparrow
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nahida, raiden, xinqiu and flex

high lark
haughty lotus
high lark
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Okay like the party setup?

untold pecan
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all characters you have kusastare

high lark
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Here

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Hello?

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Hiii?

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Anyone here?

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Can anyone help me make a team?

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Uh.

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Helloooo?

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Help?

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Please? 🙏

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I don’t want to seem stupid

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Help😭

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Chat!!

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I really need help

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Please

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😔

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Well I’m just gonna ask my friend

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Help

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Please

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I give up.

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Hello

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Sorry for spamming

copper mist
# high lark Help

Hmm, you don't have a lot of units yet. And you're early game, it's tough to have and actually play a coherent team

copper mist
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My advice would be like Diluc Kaeya Rosaria and Anemo traveler for now

quartz trellis
#

wich one is better

unkempt river
copper mist
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the second piece is terrible

quartz trellis
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the maxed out one or the not leveld

vestal totem
copper mist
haughty lotus
copper mist
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3 rolls EM 2 rolls crit dmg and all fairly good

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sheeesh

high lark
copper mist
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Healer, claymore

high lark
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Okay

vagrant cloak
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c1 gaming or c4 yaoyao

quaint fern
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Yaoyao cons are pretty mid

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Do you plan on playing one over the other?

vagrant cloak
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don't know

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i just have better units to use

copper mist
#

I also chose Yao Yao

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only one I still need cons for

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I'd go Gaming in your case

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cuz if you ever wanna play him, it's nicer to be closer to C6 on him lmao

vagrant cloak
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i still need cons for gaming, yaoyao and xinyan

copper mist
#

While if you ever wanna use Yao Yao for some reason, her cons literally don't matter

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Unless you wanna play carry Yao Yao

vagrant cloak
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i have a goated baizhu so i don't need yaoyao that much

tiny spire
#

Okay so c6 xingqiu or c0 gaming? be aware i dont have c6 bennett nor clould retainer

warped oracle
tiny spire
warped oracle
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new character then, you could also try pulling on banner

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xingqiu will eventually come in the shop, so you could just save

tiny spire
tiny spire
warped oracle
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you gotta learn worrypat

tiny spire
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like mono pyro is the only team

warped oracle
tiny spire
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skipping bec i rlly love xiao's gameplay and i need him after so long

warped oracle
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fair enough

tiny spire
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so c6 xongqiu is better?

warped oracle
#

ig?

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if this was any other con I would say Gaming, but it's c6 xingqiu

tiny spire
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xingqiu c6 has been dodging me

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so i will choose his c6 and gaming i can just get him later its fine

swift crown
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b_faint i haven't even started on lantern rite yet

void dagger
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lost prayers or skyward atlas for xianyun? i have other options as well but i just wanna know if these are best

quasi parcel
#

I'm confused about building c6 faruzan as an anemo support for wanderer -- why does she want ToTM at c6 and not something like ESF or Noblesse?

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It seems like the buff of 4pc ESF would have a better passive for wanderer?

haughty lotus
#

She doesn’t want noblesse because Bennett should be on the team with noblesse anyways

quasi parcel
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farm time

storm cave
#

for an aggravate team would keqing benefit from 4pc thundering fury or 2pc and 2pc gladiator/etc?

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and also sucrose with instructors? or vv?

haughty lotus
#

4pc thundering
Sucrose needs 4pc vv

opal surge
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4p TF or thundersoother

storm cave
#

alrighty then

opal surge
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One of the lowest for 5 stars ye

undone crescent
#

Could someone recommend me two abyss teams with this roster? I recently got some key characters so I am looking for input. Preferably one team with Navia.

latent flicker
#

how abotu this soup?

haughty lotus
latent flicker
haughty lotus
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soup is hydro + pyro + electro + anemo smh

quaint fern
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some explain the "food" teams to me

  • sincerely, your local cryo salesman who doesn't touch "grass"
latent flicker
haughty lotus
lusty cloud
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so im running xianyun diluc and xingqiu plunge but who else should i use

fathom plank
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this is a good one right?

latent flicker
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how does this work?

lusty cloud
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then attack it

latent flicker
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btu it crashes intot he rocks

lusty cloud
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im pretty sure you can move some of them

worthy siren
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I think you can also move some of them around

queen geyser
#

whats a w nahida team

quaint fern
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eula nahida kuki xingqiu

queen geyser
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I lookin more for a hyperbloom team but how woudld that work

quaint fern
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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hyperbloom setup > eula combo > repeat

haughty lotus
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equal with 4pc gilded for his best set (assuming someone else on the team has 4pc deepwood, if they dont he needs deepwood)

haughty lotus
haughty lotus
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No.

quaint fern
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idk what else to tell them LOL

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you don't really build a team around nahida

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so I'm just being a local cryo salesman

haughty lotus
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You are a disgrace to cryo mains.

quaint fern
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is that supposed to be domain expansion or this world shall know pain?

queen geyser
grave mica
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Now I need the Hilichurl as Makora

random marten
#

I hate this sm :) I need to build 4 stars but I dunno which ones to build mm_seven_pensive

storm cave
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bennet xinqiu and xiangling seem to be the standard

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kuki is good for dendro teams

lusty cloud
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maybe yaoyao

storm cave
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fischl is also good

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mostly build the 4 stars that will help with your teams

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so maybe just search team comps for one of your 5 stars and building the 4 stars it wants

random marten
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Okay sweet cuz my ream is literally just Ayaka, Diluc, Kazuha and Zhongli QiqiLurk

storm cave
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xingqiu is pretty good with ayaka

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ayaka yelan xingqiu and

haughty lotus
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No

storm cave
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idk tbh my ayaka team is layla xingqiu shenhe and ayaka

haughty lotus
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Ayaka Kazuha Mona rosaria
Ayaka Kazuha Furina Charlotte

storm cave
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💁💁 i find him to work good

random marten
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Man I have to build rosaria and charlotte mm_seven_pensive

storm cave
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my teams probably arent the best if you have better/better built characters

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ive only just started to try and build all my not so built guys

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pretend im a youtuber doing those “building this character in 20 days”

random marten
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yeah im also stupid and have a hard time trying to understand talents side_move

storm cave
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i think if theyre a support just ignore the normal attack talent and go for burst and the other one

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whichever is used primarily is more priority tho

lusty cloud
storm cave
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idk usually guides will tell you which talents to level up as well if you struggle

lusty cloud
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you upgrade talents to improve the skills

random marten
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It's cuz I'm finally gonna try to do abyss and I only have like 4 characters built mm_seven_pensive

storm cave
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i feel you, and the characters i do have built are not built well

haughty lotus
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You need to focus more on specific characters, looks like you are just building a bunch of random characters

random marten
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8-3

storm cave
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ive recently learnt to level characters up and such before farming artifacts so now i know how to spend my time to improve my account

lusty cloud
haughty lotus
random marten
random marten
haughty lotus
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Those are your most meta and versatile teams

random marten
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ooooooo

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ALRIGHT BET

storm cave
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on field nahida seems so fun but im building her in an off field team

random marten
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Should I roll for nahidas weapon? I have like 157 wishes worth on primos

haughty lotus
random marten
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So I should go for c2? I really don't have a character I currently want

storm cave
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sacrificial, wandering everstar or sumn for off field nahida at least

random marten
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Cuz I was stupid and missed them pathetic

storm cave
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me with navia

neon harness
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save for their reruns then

haughty lotus
storm cave
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also rolling for her weapon on this banner doesnt seem good unless you have xianyun or get lucky. xianyuns weapon isnt very versatile

random marten
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I'm gonna check if I have nahida built whoopdance

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Her talents are at lvl 1 and she's lvl 60 ze_catcry

quaint fern
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give her em dendro crit

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widsith if you have that

random marten
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i gave her the widsith and her crit dmg increased to 159 :0

neon harness
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level her up first

random marten
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yah!

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gonna have to get the lotus

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im gonna do that rn actually

full marlin
#

so does kokomi's health equates how much attack she deals?

neon harness
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her heals also scale off of hp

full marlin
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i see

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in other words i build her hp then

full marlin
quaint fern
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she cannot crit

full marlin
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makes sense lmao

quaint fern
noble vale
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Bruh I’ve tried strongboxing 39 trashtifacts I still get nothing even I’ve tried few more nope

neon harness
noble vale
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I’ll never get good artifacts

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I hate artifact farming

full marlin
neon harness
noble vale
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Is how the game is

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Everyday is nothing 🥺

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I would prefer to play the game for exploration, story and events than doing garbage artifact farming is just a scam

full marlin
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back in 2021 I did the dragonspine domain for a whole year and shit only gave me 10 good artifacts for ganyu and ayaka 😭

full marlin
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i focused on that domain for 14 months before finally giving up

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then i move on to crimson witch domain

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and that shit is even worse

noble vale
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I have feeling that I’m going to give up lol

noble vale
full marlin
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burnt out maybe

full marlin
#

i do hope they make a artifacts pity system

noble vale
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Is a good set for Hu Tao

full marlin
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like for every 50 artifacts dropped is atleast 1 guaranteed artifact with good stat

noble vale
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Even strongboxing has a low chance

full marlin
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actually its not a low chance

noble vale
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Oh ig mid

full marlin
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since everytime you do a domain the chances become higher that the next artifact you'll recieve is good

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thats why its ''artifact pity''

noble vale
#

I still get no good ones after strongboxing why always bad luck

noble vale
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I’ve checked every main stat and sub stat each artifact before strongboxing and if did see a good piece I’ll lock it. What if I wasn’t paying attention or not doing it right if I don’t know the good sub stats

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If I didn’t get something good after the first strongbox then I’ll strongbox it again

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Also I 90’d Raiden Shogun

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I still get no electro damage emblem goblet 😭

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@full marlin are you farming emblem? Have you given up yet? Curious

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The only domain I focus is emblem

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I wonder how was your experience of that domain

full marlin
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but well

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im slowly giving up

noble vale
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Damn

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I would feel the same way lol

strange scarab
queen geyser
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got this while trying to get nahidas weapon

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should i just go for the new charatcer or keep spinning on the weapon banner

fossil gorge
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im very indecisive and keep switching my teams losing mats, can smo help me make 2 permanent teams😭

rugged sparrow
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permanent teams? kek

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you have plenty of good options though, no reason to stick to "2 permanent teams"

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abyss occasionally changes too, you'll eventually need to run different teams other than the "2 permanent teams" you've established

primal cypress
#

Is Keqing Fischl Nahida Xianyun kinda playable :‘D?
I got Xianyun by accident and I atleast want to use her Ayayaka

rugged sparrow
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Xianyun at "worst" is an anemo healer, so she works just fine there

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(also no you don't get her by accident)

primal cypress
primal cypress
rugged sparrow
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still not an accident, you pull with your consciousness intact right kek

primal cypress
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I mean trueee xD

rugged sparrow
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unless you trip down the stairs, opened genshin, opened wish screen, pressed pull, all at once
now that's an accident kek

primal cypress
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Exactly that happened sillygoofy

rugged sparrow
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but idk if it's more DPS rather than her usual NACA spam

primal cypress
rugged sparrow
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well her n1c combo guarantees aggravate too so

primal cypress
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O

rugged sparrow
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cuz 3 hits

primal cypress
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Guess I’ll try out both and see which one makes more fun kusajudge

queen geyser
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Should i keep rolling for nahidas weapon or just go for the new character

keen condor
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do u want or need xianyun

keen condor
queen geyser
haughty lotus
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Do you have c2 nahida

wraith jetty
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does anyone have a good dps dori build i can reference KokoShock

haughty lotus
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No

queen geyser
queen geyser
haughty lotus
queen geyser
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really is c2 that much better

wraith jetty
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Yes

haughty lotus
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Significantly

queen geyser
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So as a f2p player i should for c2 instead of weapon

quaint fern
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unless you're running burnmelt hehe

haughty lotus
quaint fern
wraith jetty
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weapon banner big stinky

queen geyser
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i got lucky on hu taos so i said might aswell

haughty lotus
keen condor
keen condor
haughty lotus
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Burning meta

quaint fern
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natlan will make burning meta SURELY

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we're going to get the kafka of genshin impact 💯

sterile ruin
#

if i have bennett on the team, would mega magic or tidal shadow be the better option for gaming?

wraith jetty
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i wonder if shimenawa would work well for a dps dori cause her skill cooldown is so short

sterile ruin
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lamp throwing like grenades

keen condor
sterile ruin
quaint fern
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unlike ER, damage stats don't have a clear breakpoint for "how much attack or crit do I need" or "is this good enough". The best advice is to keep grinding until you have a decent amount of substats on your pieces and then use the Optimizer (https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/)

keen condor
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isnt mega magic rlly good tho

wraith jetty
quaint fern
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otherwise, tidal shadow at r5 is pretty comparable

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ig it depends how much atk% your artifacts have

keen condor
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@just pachu loudest dori main

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If u wanna ask them abiut it i think they have miltiple build.

wraith jetty
placid anchor
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Could anyone click my hoyolink

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?

haughty lotus
wraith jetty
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unless i make a physical build HeheSmile

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dori skill + laylers for the ultimate superconduct

dusty cape
#

who tf is dori?

wraith jetty
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a most generous philanthropist

dusty cape
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Think_Kz_TO doesn't sound like any playable genshin character

haughty lotus
dusty cape
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oh yeah that one short person that is a battery that needs a battery

dusty cape
#

bruh that's diona eyebrow

wraith jetty
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Proof?

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I didn’t think so

dusty cape
wraith jetty
#

I see some very obvious differences idk what you think is going on🤷

dusty cape
rich narwhal
#

How do I build my xianyun for xiao?

wraith jetty
dusty cape
#

eyebrow delulu

wraith jetty
#

the mindset of the average Dori denier

dusty cape
#

-- a delusional person

olive isle
dusty cape
wet island
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Is nahida haitham kuki xianyun viable?

sick quarry
#

which character should i choose, i already have xingqiu const: 2... [ my team is zhongli , hutao , xinqiu and yelan ] but i don't have yelan yet so is there a good character i could run instead of keaya in yelan's spot or should i choose anyone?

rugged sparrow
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what const is your Xq though

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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I'd just go more of his constellations or get XL const if she's not c4 yet (assuming you use her)

wraith jetty
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yeah if your xq isn’t c6 get xq

rugged sparrow
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a 4th slot you consider is Yun Jin on Tao/Xq/ZL, but she's temporary

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if you wanna run vapemelt you can run Layla instead of ZL to get a more cohensive team

rugged sparrow
#

Xiangling

sick quarry
#

i don't have her

lusty cloud
#

what.

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she's literally given out for free

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after abyss floor 3

sick quarry
#

i want to run double hydro team

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with hutao

rugged sparrow
#

you dont even have Yelan

lusty cloud
sick quarry
sick quarry
#

i have currently zhongli , xingqiu , hutao

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and keaya instead of yelan

rugged sparrow
sick quarry
#

xingqiu's constellations are good?

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or not worth it?

rugged sparrow
#

yes

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we wouldn't be telling you to get his const if his consts are not good otzSip

sick quarry
sick quarry
rich narwhal
#

How should I build cloud retainer for faruzen xiao and zl

lusty cloud
#

you can clear that in like 4 minutes tops

lusty cloud
rugged sparrow
rugged sparrow
lusty cloud
#

you never know

rugged sparrow
#

?

lusty cloud
#

i see people running dps xianyun

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maybe xiao is there to be a cheerleader

rugged sparrow
#

wot, just send your enka cards here

lusty cloud
#

other stats can be forgotten

rich narwhal
lusty cloud
rugged sparrow
#

on that team, either Noblesse or Songs of Days Past

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4p VV for what GanyUh

lusty cloud
#

buffs swirl reactions-

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wait nvm its all anemo

rugged sparrow
#

..

lusty cloud
#

dont worry guys it'll swirl my primogems (none)

rich narwhal
primal cypress
#

GEO swirl PeepoSmile

lusty cloud
rugged sparrow
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Noblesse is easily strongboxable so just go for that

lusty cloud
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not being able to strongbox for deepwood is pure evil

rich narwhal
primal cypress
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Gilded as well ^

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Im happy that emblem is in there GanyUh

lusty tinsel
#

Started new acct 4.4. Main units are c6 Gaming and Xianyun, but I am having trouble finding good teammates for early/mid game progression. Maybe getting a bennett or XingQ from the event will help? looking for advice

lusty cloud
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farming artifacts for 6 characters simultaneously is hell

primal cypress
lusty cloud
#

run nahida with that and you have a cursed burgeon team

lusty tinsel
#

oh damn no bennett? oh well

primal cypress
#

Only Liyue 4*

lusty tinsel
#

didnt see that lol

lusty cloud
#

idk how good xq is at spawning blooms though

primal cypress
#

Xq is always good to have Ayayaka

lusty tinsel
#

its early game prob wont have enough ER thou, would that be a problem solo hydro

wraith jetty
#

I wish they did events where you could get a free character selector besides just liyue

lusty cloud
#

xiangling is right under there too

primal cypress
#

XL or XQ
I would say both are equal but they already have XL and she’s for free sooooGanyUh

lusty cloud
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xl is obtainable from low abyss already sooooo

primal cypress
#

Choose Xinyan PeepoSmile

lusty cloud
#

thats just evil.

wraith jetty
#

if xinyan’s twintails looked slightly less goofy and if she wasn’t a chinese inspired character with a texas southern accent I might wanna play her

neon harness
#

she won't have a southern accent if you played another voiceover 🤭

wraith jetty
haughty lotus
wraith jetty
#

navia’s skill line annoys me so I play her mostly in JP but i like zhongli and childe in english

haughty lotus
#

comin atcha

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watch out

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feelin lucky?

primal cypress
#

Umbrella warfare I guess GanyUh

wraith jetty
primal cypress
#

Understandable

wraith jetty
#

i wonder why they changed barbara’s voice though

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Not that the current voice is bad (i like it a lot actually) but her old voice was really nice

primal cypress
#

I like her new one more actually

neon harness
#

older voice was more energetic, ig they thought it didnt fit her ig

primal cypress
#

It fits her personality

wraith jetty
#

I liked the voice cracks she had in her old voice

primal cypress
wraith jetty
#

ok so i have a scorpion named albert and a little plastic barbara statue, should i move the barbara to be with albert or keep them apart

primal cypress
#

Apart 🫵

primal cypress
wraith jetty
primal cypress
#

I am the Fanclub ✨

#

My Barbara will destroy any Alberts sillygoofy

elfin tusk
#

How build xianyun
Vv, er atk atk?

primal cypress
#

What team do you use her in :o?

elfin tusk
#

Hu tao

#

Trying to figure out who will do hydro

primal cypress
#

Yep then er atk atk

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She needs alot of er to reliably get her burst back in solo anemo Ayayaka

primal cypress
elfin tusk
#

No :(

primal cypress
#

Yelan :o?

elfin tusk
#

I hav yelan but she's on another team

primal cypress
#

I see

elfin tusk
#

Also have xq and childe, but xq isn't good enough and childe is useless

primal cypress
#

XQ is very good KeqingWow

lusty tinsel
#

i feel having 2 healers (babara+Xianyun) is too overkill. any other good units to use with gaming

haughty lotus
#

xingqiu is certainly good enough, if not better

elfin tusk
#

Not on his burst he's not

haughty lotus
#

build issue

elfin tusk
#

Hu tao keeps swirling Pyro with no hydro application

#

His skill is fine but also it's a pain to keep using it

haughty lotus
#

what are you talking about, hydro application?

primal cypress
#

Huh?

#

His skill is for particles mostly and dmg reduction

elfin tusk
#

I should clarify I'm using plunge hu tao

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I need hydro for reactions

neon harness
#

n1 plunge or n2 plunge lol idk man

haughty lotus
#

you have to normal attack on hu tao

primal cypress
#

Why were you talking about Xq‘s skill then? KokoShock

elfin tusk
#

Yeah that's the problem, hu tao does like ridiculous damage with the plunge buff, but xq only applies hydro on na

haughty lotus
#

no furina issue

elfin tusk
#

His skill also does the sword things that can swirl hydro

elfin tusk
primal cypress
#

The only other off field hydro applicators are Kokomi and Furina

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afaik

elfin tusk
#

Honestly I was considering ayato

haughty lotus
#

just dont play xianyun with hu tao at that point

#

she also heals her so even more of a loss

elfin tusk
#

But if kokomi and furina are coming I'm gonna pull one of them, I need a hydro healer (that isn't barbara) anyway

elfin tusk
haughty lotus
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and furina isnt a healer