📌gimshim-help

[rugged sparrow]

mommy retainer the best

[copper mist]

Her SQ was so good

Why R2

[rugged sparrow]

don't ask

[jolly junco]

he wanted lamp so badly he fate pointed it

[narrow folio]

sez u

[rugged sparrow]

😭

[jolly junco]

my cloud retainer is c0 with ttds or oathsworn

[copper mist]

I got a third lamp

[jolly junco]

certified f2p cloud retainer

[copper mist]

[rugged sparrow]

my initial plan was pulling for lamp

lamp and lamp only

but here we are

[copper mist]

R3 lamp or R2&1

[rugged sparrow]

lamp refine sucks ass

[copper mist]

I'll prob R3

[narrow folio]

What about your Yae?

[copper mist]

I knowww

[rugged sparrow]

probably the worst scaling 5-star weap

in terms of refinement

[copper mist]

Yup

[jolly junco]

that was pulling over 3 separate yae banners, it doesn't count

[rugged sparrow]

and then you have CR sig

[narrow folio]

Excuses

[copper mist]

Her sig scaling is aight

[rugged sparrow]

fym alright

it goes from 28% plunge to 80%

[copper mist]

28%->80%

[rugged sparrow]

it's more than the usual 100% increase

[copper mist]

Yeah but other weaps get increases in multiple stats

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

Wait you got r2 while pulling for nahida lamp?

[rugged sparrow]

yes...

[narrow folio]

[rugged sparrow]

and was like "eh guess I'll pull Xianyun"

then like 2 days after
"i'll try c6 Faruzan actually im so close"

one pity and c6 Gaming later

[opal surge]

🐳

[rugged sparrow]

silver lining I got my first two 5-stars in one multi after 3 years of playing

too bad it's not Xianyun into Mona instead

[quaint fern]

surely it's my turn to get a double on my wife's next rerun

[bright holly]

In hyperbloom, do I use r5 Widsith or sac on nahida?

[narrow folio]

Guessing you don't want Chiori

[fallow yoke]

sac

[copper mist]

Widsith

[earnest canyon]

the duality of man

[opal surge]

Lightmode discord

[rugged sparrow]

I do, I can guarantee her

[narrow folio]

[bright holly]

Looks normal

[rugged sparrow]

main concern is Furina re-run though

I want c2 and if she's re-running any time soon I'm omega fucked

[earnest canyon]

brozhe bacc

[opal surge]

I want c2 furina as well but atp idk if I can even cope on getting it next rerun

With chiori and probably cholrinde and maybe arlechino coming

[rugged sparrow]

dont care enough abt Arlecchino
but Clorinde kinda want just because Wriorinde ship

[opal surge]

[novel charm]

where is this chic1ken suppose to be

[rugged sparrow]

follow the pinecones

it'll lead you to the pedestal

[narrow folio]

I want them all

[median glade]

🍵

fine I will drink it myself

🍵

[serene sandal]

damn how long will it take for me to get the new character if im at 0 primos as like 30 pity

[narrow folio]

Depends on how much you're willing to spend

[quaint fern]

perhaps a week

perhaps a next year

[narrow folio]

Assuming she doesn't pull a Eula

[quaint fern]

how long as she gone?

400 days? 500 days?

[narrow folio]

A long long time

[quaint fern]

I remember a bunch of eula wanters were able to c6 just because of how long she was gone

[rugged sparrow]

27 halves without Eula

which is around 567 days

[narrow folio]

Almost two years

[rugged sparrow]

Albedo about to be the next contender with 24 halves now

[quaint fern]

surely itto rerun soon

[narrow folio]

Surely he runs with Chiori

[quaint fern]

surely albedo will get reran with itto

SURELY a triple geo patch

[narrow folio]

SHIRLEY

[gentle abyss]

Yo! What's new? Havent played in like a year.

[rugged sparrow]

watch it being Ganyu + Shenhe patch like 3.5 being Aya/Shen

[narrow folio]

French region

[rugged sparrow]

oui oui

[gentle abyss]

Ooh baguette

[rugged sparrow]

also hydro archon turning to be broken asf

[narrow folio]

And cute asf

[gentle abyss]

She on banner??

I saw she can walk on water or something??

[rugged sparrow]

who would've guessed that to make a good competitor to Yelan and Xingqiu, you just have to make:

1. Yelan's buff partywide
2. double that amount (with constellations)

[narrow folio]

No

[rugged sparrow]

also broken ass constellations

[gentle abyss]

What's on banner??

[narrow folio]

Hydro is just the best element

[rugged sparrow]

ok hydro mc calm down

[copper mist]

I mean, it is

[narrow folio]

Cloud Retainer and radish

[gentle abyss]

Who the next archon gonna be?

[copper mist]

Because of the units we have rn at least

[gentle abyss]

The bird??

[rugged sparrow]

yes

Cloud Retainer is now playable, anemo catalyst healer with plunge atk buff

(she also enables people to plunge)

[copper mist]

Hydro doesn't have the highest potential (unless we get consistent forward vape dps)

[gentle abyss]

She good or nah?

[rugged sparrow]

very good if you play around her niche

[copper mist]

but yeah it is the best element

[rugged sparrow]

at worst she's still anemo catalyst healer which is, okay

[gentle abyss]

Ooh she a baddy fr

[copper mist]

Cloud Retainer is 100% my favourite character now

I love Yoimiya still but...

[narrow folio]

Yoimiya abandoned

[copper mist]

no competition

[quaint fern]

you like cloud retainer for her design

I like cloud retainer for her children

[copper mist]

When they revealed her design last Lantern Rite

I knew I would play her no matter what

[copper mist]

I like her for both

[rugged sparrow]

imagine if CR had been another Signora case

[obtuse mauve]

yall im torn between shenhe, lyney and c2 nahida 😭 . for reference, my nahida is c1 with her signature weapon, and i have like 5 or 6 dendro reaction comps. shenhe would benefit my ayaka freeze team, and i dont have a strong mono pyro team. who should i pull?

[rugged sparrow]

[copper mist]

I double crowned Shenhe

[gentle abyss]

I gave my younger cousin my account to play for a while to test his new phone. Returnee rewards were activated. They must be gone now right?

[copper mist]

Depending on how long ago that is, yes

[rugged sparrow]

why do you need a "strong monopyro team"

[opal surge]

Do you have kazuha

[gentle abyss]

How long do they usually reset the returnee rewards? I didnt collect anyhthing

[obtuse mauve]

tbh i dont

[rugged sparrow]

well good Lyney's out of the list

now, Nahida is on banner and we don't know when will Shenhe re-run

[opal surge]

Monopyro is kazuha XL bennet, if you are considering to pull shenhe for ayaka then surely you have kazuha already, no?

[gentle abyss]

Can someone link a decent tier list? What's good and stuff like that. I gotta see if my characters still relevant LOL

[rugged sparrow]

older chars are still relevant

tier list is fuckall, it's a bait

[gentle abyss]

Okay cool

[rugged sparrow]

at c0, most 5-star characters perform more or less the same given their niches/best setups anyway

[narrow folio]

I feel that, felt the same for Furina

[gentle abyss]

Okay that's nice.

Do I NEED a hydro dps? There been so many new hydro characters 💀

[rugged sparrow]

personal take, you need a DPS from each element to maintain versatility

doesn't have to be an on-field DPS though

[narrow folio]

[quaint fern]

do you need one? no

[rugged sparrow]

keyword "most"

Dehya is just dogwater DPS at c0 yes, but she's fine as support

[gentle abyss]

Okay so I got Ganyu, Xiao/Scaramouse, Diluc, Yelan/Xingqiu

[rugged sparrow]

yeh they're all still good

[gentle abyss]

I forgot what else I got

[rugged sparrow]

Xiao and Diluc even more with Xianyun's arrival

[gentle abyss]

Gotta check the enka thingy

Who that?

[rugged sparrow]

uh, Cloud Retainer's human name

her playable name is Xianyun

[gentle abyss]

Ah okay

[rugged sparrow]

plunge go brr

[gentle abyss]

Nice nice

[rugged sparrow]

Yelan/Xq still staple double hydro, admittedly Furina kinda makes Xq go poof (in double hydro) but still good nonetheless

[gentle abyss]

Oh how could I forget Raiden LOL

[rugged sparrow]

Raiden is well, Raiden

still the same old

same as Ganyu, ig these two are few that are (mostly) unaffected from the past year

[unkempt river]

Two teams for current abyss floor 12?

[rugged sparrow]

national 1st half, hyperbloom/Tighnari 2nd half

[gentle abyss]

Am I reading it wrong or is there a character called Gaming!?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

don't ask why

[gentle abyss]

tf he do?? Silwer Wolf esque attacks?

[rugged sparrow]

pyro plunge DPS

[gentle abyss]

So many plunge dps now

[rugged sparrow]

I mean still Xiao and Gaming by the nature of their kit

[gentle abyss]

Can you circle which ones still good? Everything till Ninguan is 80/90.

And they kinda built.

[rugged sparrow]

[gentle abyss]

Oh right, did aloy get any constellations??

[rugged sparrow]

no

[pulsar ore]

Is that a website? Or an app to use to see your characters

[rugged sparrow]

it's hoyolab app I believe

[gentle abyss]

AR 56 and still dunno about it? /jk
It's the hoyolab app

[pulsar ore]

Okay cool thank you

[gentle abyss]

You can also use the website

Never tried to get the login rewards? You can get like 60 gems each month

[rugged sparrow]

from first pic, Qiqi Razor and Diona are like the low investment value chars. Noelle is okay cuz you have Gorou, and Barb can be fine on certain teams
2nd pic I'd level up Beidou and Gorou but that's about it

[gentle abyss]

Gorou? What for?? What he do?

[rugged sparrow]

Razor can be kinda... quirky though, cuz of a certain team only he can run

[rugged sparrow]

DEF buffer

Noelle converts DEF into atk

[gentle abyss]

Ah okay

What does Razor do? He kinda trash no??

[rugged sparrow]

he is

but there's a team where he can be quite good

[gentle abyss]

Must be some Nahida team I guess?

[rugged sparrow]

but just don't bother

[rugged sparrow]

yeah pretty much

[pulsar ore]

Okay i need teams as well of anyone can help with spiral abyss

[gentle abyss]

Aye! Bro learnt how to flex LOL

[pulsar ore]

Lmao i did, i just had to check out the app a bit

[rugged sparrow]

where's all your 4-stars though

[gentle abyss]

DOn't be shy, share the rest

[pulsar ore]

Lmao all at the bottom ion use 4 stars💀

[subtle ingot]

team comp with ganyu?

[rugged sparrow]

regardless you have a lot of team options, easier to just say which chars you prefer to play

[gentle abyss]

Bro killed em all for extra xp LOL

[gentle abyss]

Bro should've just said "I got everything, gimme a team"

[rugged sparrow]

I'd just play monocryo Ganyu with Ganyu/Rosa/Diona or Charlotte/flex considering how limited your options are

[pulsar ore]

Lmao i do fr got everything and im only a casual player fr💀 if i sweat this game all these guys would be 90

Im more into fighting games though

[gentle abyss]

Probably got all the BiS weaopns too?

[pulsar ore]

Hell yeah💀

[gentle abyss]

Tekken 8 goated?

[pulsar ore]

I think i got a total of 2 signatures for Xiao and Ayato and thas it

[gentle abyss]

Typical casual genshin player activities

[pulsar ore]

And yes it’s fire asl, i been on that and sweating MK1 ranked

[gentle abyss]

Nice

Imma take a final guess, You can't clear the final floor of abysss?

Like 3* or whatever it's called

[pulsar ore]

Ganyu, Beidou, Diona/Sayu, Xiangling

[pulsar ore]

Yup

[gentle abyss]

Mah man

[radiant holly]

Do any of y'all know how to figure out this puzzle south of Qiaoying Village cus I swear it looks so easy but every time I try to approach it I just malfunction

Update: Nvm I just bs it LOL

[gentle abyss]

TF Beidou gonna do? "Shield"?

[pulsar ore]

Provide Electro ontop of Xianglings Pyronado

[rugged sparrow]

(please don't cook that team is horrible)

[gentle abyss]

But why??

I havent played in over a year and even I know that team sus

[pulsar ore]

I’ll cook with that team rn and stream it💀

[rugged sparrow]

you have three energy deficient chars on a wheelchair having a go at each other

[gentle abyss]

Nah nah let bro cook

[rugged sparrow]

you can definitely cook a hilichurl camp with that yes

[pulsar ore]

He don’t got alot to work off of tho

[gentle abyss]

Watch him clear Floor 12 of abyss with that team

[rugged sparrow]

would love to see them do it

[pulsar ore]

Bennet, Xingqiu, maybe but he wants to charge attack

[rugged sparrow]

they can run meltyu with Ganyu/Bennett/XL but Diona as a shielder is uh

[gentle abyss]

Uhhh where's Barbruh??

[rugged sparrow]

not something I'd recommend

[gentle abyss]

I was about to say freeze might work. BUt barbruh where??

Aint she free??

[rugged sparrow]

she is but you just don't play freezeyu without Mona or Kokomi

or well, Furina

[gentle abyss]

You can kinda make it work with swirl and barbruh

[subtle ingot]

i havent claimed ehr yet

[rugged sparrow]

they dont have good anemo for freeze either (Venti or Kaz)

[pulsar ore]

Ganyu, Sucrose, XQ, and Diona??

[gentle abyss]

Sucrose tho??

[rugged sparrow]

Sucrose is like, the literal last option you should do

it's omega cope

[pulsar ore]

Grouping tho like he don’t got anyone else to group up enemies 😭

[rugged sparrow]

welp here comes the Ganyu main

[pulsar ore]

And with xq you can weave in like a normal or two to those grouped enemies and then freeze with ganyu

[rugged sparrow]

oh you're gonna sit this out treez

[gentle abyss]

Yeah... Even I got nothing to group LOL

[pulsar ore]

Lmao hell no

[gentle abyss]

Those mushrooms used to be so hard to kill in abyss

[rugged sparrow]

not referring to you

[pulsar ore]

Oh good

[rugged sparrow]

@quaint fern dont hide

I saw you typing

[pulsar ore]

We only main itto over here

[quaint fern]

no i was typing something off topic

[gentle abyss]

My Ganyu team is super generic. Ganyu, Zhongli, Xiangling, Bennet(or something else)

[quaint fern]

so I decided against sending it

[rugged sparrow]

😔

[quaint fern]

i'm still running that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gentle abyss]

Ganyu hit HARD

[pulsar ore]

Yk i been playin this game for abt 2-3 years now and have still not gotten zhongli

I feel like if i get him the game is gonna be easy

[quaint fern]

burnmelt is only marginally better for me and I lose xiangling dmg so I don't think it's worth running

[rugged sparrow]

it's easy even without him

[copper mist]

Zhongli is a comfort unit

[gentle abyss]

I always wanted Kazuha but somehow managed to miss him by 1-2 days ebery single time

[pulsar ore]

No like 10x easier

[copper mist]

He won't add any value to your account unless you play like Yoimiya

[rugged sparrow]

not really?

[gentle abyss]

And I lost pity to Venti banner 3 times. During 1.1 I lost pity and got Diluc

[rugged sparrow]

also meltyu

[copper mist]

How

[rugged sparrow]

imagine playing meltyu with a shield anything less than ZL

[copper mist]

How can you lose pity 3 times

[pulsar ore]

Damn rip, i feel like he’s honestly a must have unit tho

[iron tundra]

that’s just normal melt

[pulsar ore]

He’s like The Anemo Zhongli

[copper mist]

That's what they said, super generic

[gentle abyss]

Well yeah, hence "generic"

[pulsar ore]

Machine gun Yoimiya with Yun Jin and Yelan

Oof i love that comp

[gentle abyss]

Different times. Not on the same version/banner LOL

[gentle abyss]

Yeah, only thing I got for grouping is the dang sucrose

[copper mist]

Maybe save for him then at some point... buit tbf it's hard for me to imagine the life of more F2P players, sorry

I am a stinky whale

[gentle abyss]

I even got R5 EM sword for Kazuha

[pulsar ore]

F2P right?

[gentle abyss]

I fogot what it's called

[gentle abyss]

Yeah the 4* craftable one

[pulsar ore]

Ohhh ik which one your talkin bout

[gentle abyss]

??

[pulsar ore]

Also kazuha needs EM no?

[gentle abyss]

Yeah I meant EM. My bad

[pulsar ore]

Thought i was trippin

[rugged sparrow]

here I am just hoping you have enough ER on your Kazuha to craft a dead r5 weapon on him

[gentle abyss]

Bruh y u call it a dead weapon? 💀

That bad!?

[rugged sparrow]

Iron Sting is a noob bait on Kazuha lol

[gentle abyss]

Bruhhhh it used to be BiS back when I made it LOL

[rugged sparrow]

and its refine does fuckall for him

[pulsar ore]

Fr? I haven’t taken it off of him

[rugged sparrow]

it never was bis?

[pulsar ore]

What’s a better option

[rugged sparrow]

Fav if you have it

[gentle abyss]

Tf u used on him!?

Bruhhh no way

[pulsar ore]

Why fav?

[gentle abyss]

aint no way u used fav

[rugged sparrow]

he needs 180% ER on average to function in most teams

[copper mist]

Favonius is goated Kazuha weapon

any sword character tbh

[gentle abyss]

Tffff

[bright holly]

Imagine not using freedom sworn

[pulsar ore]

My first time hearing of this

[rugged sparrow]

imagine not having r5 Xiphos

[copper mist]

Xiphos has not been on a banner I wanted to pull on yet

[gentle abyss]

oh oh stinky

[rugged sparrow]

same

[copper mist]

Still don't even have R1

[bright holly]

Imagine not having a 1097 EM kazuha with 160 ER (not my main build tho)

[rugged sparrow]

praying you use rational or some shit to heavy lift that ER

*Raiden hyper idk why I type rational

[gentle abyss]

What's the character built site? I removed it from bookmarks

[pulsar ore]

Im sure you have that ER in substats alone right? You dont need favonious to get that much ER?

Or is that with Fav

[rugged sparrow]

I mean 80 ER subs equal around 16 rolls on average so

[gentle abyss]

I still got these on my bookmark bar LOL

[rugged sparrow]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds it's on the pinned

[bright holly]

Nah my normal build is just 964 em and 200 ER

[rugged sparrow]

goodge

[pulsar ore]

Lord

[bright holly]

Seeing 1097 em is so juicy tho

[rugged sparrow]

sounds like george's build too

[copper mist]

Hmm yes I wanna see your triple EM mainstat 180 ER build right now

[gentle abyss]

WHat team u use with that 1097 kazu?

[bright holly]

Open world

[gentle abyss]

Oh

[pulsar ore]

The rainslasher finally has a proper user👀

[gentle abyss]

This dude good? Bro does a water kamehameha

[rugged sparrow]

...

[rugged sparrow]

he's a good hydro hypercarry yes

[pulsar ore]

Best character rn imo

[gentle abyss]

Oh straight up hypercarry!?

[copper mist]

Play vape Neuvilette plunge

More like solo carry

Neuvilette also does beyblade stuff

[gentle abyss]

Dayum. I thought hydro archon gonna be broken.

[pulsar ore]

You get blue balls and then charge attack with him

[rugged sparrow]

... I mean she is

[pulsar ore]

She is

[copper mist]

She is but she is not a carry

Unless she is C6

[rugged sparrow]

Furina (hydro archon) is easily one of two units I'd personally recommend as a "must pull"

[pulsar ore]

She’s a mixed sub dps/ healer

[rugged sparrow]

the other being Nahida

[gentle abyss]

So basically just pull all the archons. Ez

[copper mist]

My must pulls are Dehya and Qiq

[rugged sparrow]

real

[copper mist]

If you have those you won the game

[haughty lotus]

So based

[pulsar ore]

I fear for your sanity

[rugged sparrow]

she isn't a healer unless you're just brainrotting in overworld

or if you have c6 cuz reasons

[opal surge]

In coop shes a healer ig, I did weekly bosses in coop earlier for achievements and the heals were quite necessary

[copper mist]

Furina healing is so incredibly cope you can just tell they wanted players to never use that mode

[opal surge]

[bright holly]

You can just go bennett y less your entire team scales off hp

[rugged sparrow]

literally just NRE menu or ask someone else to heal

[copper mist]

Yeah in coop it's alright but then the Furina player is doing nothing

[gentle abyss]

People do co op!?

[bright holly]

When bored yes

[opal surge]

Yeah I was just chilling swapping between dps and healing every few seconds

[rugged sparrow]

actually Sensi are you, by any chance, playing in NA

[opal surge]

Nah I'm EU

[pulsar ore]

Her heals aren’t bad tho, if you’re low on hp and you have someone like a 4 star healer who only heals with their burst (yaoyao excluded) then i think you can run her as one

[rugged sparrow]

I've seen NA coop trench so it's just a guess

[gentle abyss]

WHat's NA-E??

[pulsar ore]

But that’s hella specific scenario tho, people most likely got at least one 5 star healer

[opal surge]

Idk I've not done much coop but my coop experience in genshin hasnt been amazing I will say

They're mostly friendly people at least

[bright holly]

But why would you heal with her when you literally have a much greater damage opportunity in 1 charge attack

[pulsar ore]

Im just speaking if you don’t have any healers that heal constantly

[rugged sparrow]

never said her heals are bad, it's just you're wasting her dmg potential for mediocre healing which can be replaced by literally anyone else

[pulsar ore]

Like Baizhu

[bright holly]

The answer is simple, don’t use Furina in that team

But then overworld is overworld soooo

[opal surge]

Furina with no particles

[rugged sparrow]

Xianyun + Furina overworld

[gentle abyss]

So from I saw, Furina is basically another kokomi??

[rugged sparrow]

not even close, lol

[bright holly]

I remember my early days playing hu tao + Qiqi in open world

[rugged sparrow]

Kokomi is a dedicated healer

[opal surge]

there is only 2 5 star healers in the game, and I dont think that most people have them

[rugged sparrow]

Furina is off-field dps + support

[opal surge]

Or I guess 3 if you count qiqi

[pulsar ore]

Nah

[rugged sparrow]

4..

or 5 I lost track

[pulsar ore]

Xianyun

[rugged sparrow]

Qiqi Baizhu Jean Kokomi Xianyun

[opal surge]

i forgot the anemo girls nvm me

[rugged sparrow]

tbf sometimes I forget Xianyun heals when I'm DPS-ing too

[opal surge]

In my head they just delete furina damage rather than being classified as actual healers

[pulsar ore]

I personally use her for dps but i could understand if you use her for heals

Cause tbf nobody cares abt team comps in coop

[eternal pewter]

And Furina makes it so easy just to leave her Pokémon there and forget it

I think it's understandable to use her as a healer too

[unkempt river]

So

1. Raiden, Yelan, Xl, Benny
2. Nahida, Xq, Fischl, Kuki?

How does

1. Raiden, Furina, Fishcl Sayu
2. Nahida, Yelan, Xq, Kuki
   compare to that?

[rugged sparrow]

go with 1st set

[unkempt river]

Why's that

Just curious as to why that's better

[eternal pewter]

More damage imo

[rugged sparrow]

2nd set 1st team is sus, granted 2nd team is the best hb team you can make without forgoing defensive option

1st set is more balanced with what you have

[unkempt river]

Aight

[unkempt river]

Why is the first team sus haha

[rugged sparrow]

Raiden/Fischl would usually lead to aggravate but it's Furina/Sayu instead

which can be ok? but Fischl's main highlight is her A4 talent that you can abuse in aggravate

atp I'd rather go back to Raiden national for more dmg

[sick quarry]

Should i get more crit rate on her or is this ratio fine?

[unkempt river]

fair

[rugged sparrow]

want more cr

[unkempt river]

is her A4 that good?

[rugged sparrow]

unless you love resetting abyss chambers like Eula mains do

[rugged sparrow]

let's just say most electros in the game become relevant with the arrival of dendro thanks to her

[maiden relic]

So I hit floor 9 of the abyss, I did chamber one easy but chamber 2 is an issue. I like raidens rational but it feels useless at times. I know I gotta build them and I’m learning how but I feel like raidens rational just doesn’t do anything for me, but I’m not sure what second team I can create besides hyperbloom which I dislike. I’m still trying to learn how to build my first team but I just wanna have a good second one so I can level them up and use them if I gotta fight boss or something idk

[rugged sparrow]

what even is your first team

[sick quarry]

i have a 11 cr feather but no crit damage or atk on it, is there a way i can check it itll be better?

[rugged sparrow]

well you can run them on optimizer

[eternal pewter]

Great build!

Looking at your substats, the only way to get more crit is getting a crit weapon, they're already very good

[pulsar ore]

What team would you prefer using

[copper mist]

Nah dawg that ratio is out of whack.

[pulsar ore]

Seeing as you don’t like hyperbloom

[vital robin]

Are you using neuv on other team also which char you wanna focus on for ur teams?

[copper mist]

They need to trade in some crit dmg for crit rate

[eternal pewter]

If they somehow manage to get 10%rate without losing too much damage, yes
If not, 65/200 is a great ratio

[maiden relic]

I don’t know really

[vital robin]

Which characters are built rn

[maiden relic]

Uhm.

[copper mist]

65/200 is not a great ratio

[maiden relic]

Neuvi is sorta built? He just needs HP and a little bit of Hydro.

[copper mist]

that's nearly 1:3

[maiden relic]

But I use Neuvi in my first team tho

[vital robin]

Assuming he takes care of 2nd half who you pairing him with?

[copper mist]

wait it's less than 1:3

[maiden relic]

Sucrose, Fischl, and zhongli

[vital robin]

You need to change that cuz the first half on 2nd floor of 9 has hydro enemies and cryo shielded enemies

The 2nd half of floor 9 is much more suited for him

[maiden relic]

Well I use him on the 2nd half

[copper mist]

the best ratio with that CV is 82.5/165

[vital robin]

Yep that's fine enough

[maiden relic]

I always have

[opal surge]

1:3 on navia

[daring beacon]

is the widsth worth refining if im running nahida as on field in hyperbloom

[rugged sparrow]

if you dont have anyone else running Widsith, sure
otherwise I'd recommend keeping some copies just in case

[vital robin]

As for first half you're running rational as you said but I suppose the dmg is an issue then?

[daring beacon]

i have 5 copies total, how would you split them up?

[maiden relic]

I die and yeah

Raiden dies or Bennett dies

[rugged sparrow]

I'd do r3 first, then two r1s

[daring beacon]

thanks!

[rugged sparrow]

if you're sure you don't have anyone else running Widsith then by all means

[eternal pewter]

Would you say 75/180 is better?

[copper mist]

No

[opal surge]

yeah it is

[copper mist]

oh than 65/200 yes

[daring beacon]

who else is good with it?

[copper mist]

But not better than 82.5/165

[maiden relic]

I really should learn the ratio stuff

[rugged sparrow]

catalyst DPS in general. Wrio, Wanderer, Klee, etc

[eternal pewter]

Explain this to me because I genuinely do not know

[vital robin]

To begin with you need to level them and as well as I might need to see their builds to advise on that

[daring beacon]

ty

[copper mist]

?????

[maiden relic]

I’m new to that

[opal surge]

what is this supposed to be

[maiden relic]

Builds are something I’m new on

[vital robin]

You mean character building in general?

[eternal pewter]

I'd take 80/240 instead of 80/160 any day of the week

[rugged sparrow]

a lot better if they benefit from all 3 buffs, but 2/3 is fine too

[maiden relic]

mhm

[vital robin]

Oh well let's explain that first then

[opal surge]

[eternal pewter]

Or even 60/240 instead of 80/160

[rugged sparrow]

no shit 80/240 is 80cv more than 80/160

[copper mist]

Bro those are two entirely different amounts of CV

[maiden relic]

My Neuvi crit rate is 30 while his crit damage is 100

[vital robin]

Any set bonus?

[maiden relic]

Yes

[eternal pewter]

Yea I realised that after sending lmao

[maiden relic]

His set gives him 30

[rugged sparrow]

you do know 60/240 and 80/160 isn't comparable either

60/240 is 40 more cv

[eternal pewter]

I want to understand how mathematically 75/180 can be better than 65/200

[vital robin]

He can stay with that for now he might needs some more crit dmg however what about weapon?

[rugged sparrow]

welcome to probability

[copper mist]

Left is just straight up more damage

[rugged sparrow]

well more DPS

[daring beacon]

is nahida c2 or neuvillete c1/r1 stronger regardless of cost?

[rugged sparrow]

average DPS

[opal surge]

theyre not the same role, hard to compare

[rugged sparrow]

they're both strong but different uses on different teams

[daring beacon]

i see hmm

[unkempt river]

How do I not get instakilled by these dendro breachers smth in abyss? Just burn them before they power up that dendro move?

[opal surge]

Mathematically average DPS is just higher the closer you get to 1:2 - If you want to actually calc it then please do calc it properly, and dont do whatever you did here

[rugged sparrow]

if anything c1 Neuv makes teambuilding and playing him super braindead so there's that

[vital robin]

The powered up shots hit hard asf ye

[rugged sparrow]

destroy their dendro shield, they always start with that move

[vital robin]

You might wanna eyeframe em

[rugged sparrow]

^ i-framing them works too

[narrow folio]

Just dodge

[rugged sparrow]

if you keep enough distance you can dodge all of its projectile too, yes

[vital robin]

It's kinda hard dodging ig

[rugged sparrow]

you can't dodge it point blank that shit's just gonna hit you one way or another

[vital robin]

And it would waste quite a bit of time as well so perhaps destroying is the best way

[vital robin]

Yep that's the thing

[opal surge]

Healerless niloubloom

[unkempt river]

How? It's like a minigun

[rugged sparrow]

ah, sad that wiki doesn't list how many projectiles it fires

[daring beacon]

is FPL or gilded better for kiki for hyperbloom

[rugged sparrow]

chain burst i-frame

[eternal pewter]

That's exactly why I said it would be better to trade dmg for rate only if he managed not to lose too much damage. At that point it's easy to lose like 40%cdmg for 10%rate

[unkempt river]

that works I guess

[copper mist]

What.

[rugged sparrow]

FPL is better damage-wise but it's like marginal
don't farm FPL unless you have Wanderer to utilize Desert Pavilion Chronicle

[vital robin]

Basically whenever you use a burst you're invincible for the duration of the animation it's i framing you can do that while the attack is just abt to hit you like you can set up ur rotation while they're at it

[eternal pewter]

Look at his artifacts wdym

[opal surge]

Doesnt matter just drop it imo, its about to become an argument of semantics

[daring beacon]

gotcha thanks

[opal surge]

Takeaway is get more crit rate, you can drop crit damage for it its fine

[vital robin]

Me who farmed an entire FP set but still dont got 2pc DV

[opal surge]

going for 80/160 is better than 60/200

[daring beacon]

does kuki benefit from a higher refinement iron sting

[rugged sparrow]

no

[vital robin]

But big number satisfying and it activates monke brain

So always 60/200 even if it's worse(as long as it works✨)

[rugged sparrow]

the problem gets much worse with Navia since her "average" DPS is literally tied to her frontload

[opal surge]

Until you dont crit 3 times in a row on navia and optimal rotation becomes escape -> reset

[vital robin]

It's just two big nukes that's all

[rugged sparrow]

not critting them brings your average DPS even lower than other DPS in comparison

[unkempt river]

yep yep

[rugged sparrow]

3? try 6

(yes it happened to me with 80cr dont ask)

[opal surge]

I would reset on 3 just out of frustration

[vital robin]

I mean I reset like 10 times to get the right widsith buff anyways so might as well reset more on another char

[opal surge]

If my first 3 arent critting im going again for sure

[rugged sparrow]

no the thing is, Sensi

I double E, both didn't crit > reset

the 2nd attempt, neither crit too

[rugged sparrow]

guess what happened on the 3rd

[opal surge]

[copper mist]

Thats why I take no chances

[vital robin]

You get out of abyss log out and take a deep breath in and go out to be one with the grass

[rugged sparrow]

real

[copper mist]

Is your pfp Lyney

I still need to build mine properly

Kinda abandoned him and started prefarming for Furina

[vital robin]

Yep (I don't have him) ((yet))

[vital robin]

C0r1 lyney slaps on boss floors on abyss honestly

[copper mist]

Yeah if you play VV monopyro

[vital robin]

I played him on a friends acc and it's like a 170 CV build but has crazy clear times

[vital robin]

Yee destroys both worms

[copper mist]

Two broken pyro carries + VV + Bennett = damage

[vital robin]

One of the best worm counters✨

Im so mad I gotta deal with this abyss two more times

[maiden relic]

The bp one

Sac jade

[sterile ruin]

would this work on Gaming? 🧍‍♀️

If yes then i’ll speed run melusine

[haughty lotus]

If he needs the ER it’s nice, if he is triggering melt/vape then mailed flower is better tho

[sterile ruin]

I dont have xq to begin with 😭

[haughty lotus]

[rugged sparrow]

no Furina either?

[sterile ruin]

Nope

[gritty hearth]

this is my wip xianyun build but i think my er might be too low by the time its done so do i go for a er sands?

[rugged sparrow]

rough

[rugged sparrow]

what team

[sterile ruin]

Only 2 hydro units i have is barbruh and nilou 🥰

[rugged sparrow]

she needs very little ER if she's on-field + sig + c6 Faru

[opal surge]

Well at least you know what you are picking in lantern rite

[sterile ruin]

Yes, G A M I N G

[gritty hearth]

Mona , bennett , Faruzan

[rugged sparrow]

c6 Faru?

[gritty hearth]

c5 but im pulling still for c1 xianyun so soon possibly

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

pretty sure her ER is super low with c6 Faru

[sterile ruin]

Why does c6 faru do

[rugged sparrow]

I'm eyeballing 110-120 but could be lower

[opal surge]

c6 faru spams her skill basically (and +cdmg)

[rugged sparrow]

makes anemo DPS crackheads

[gritty hearth]

ah ok thats good

[rugged sparrow]

also generates plenty of anemo particles cuz what Sensi says

[sterile ruin]

Oh we’re talking abt xianyun team

I thought u were talking furina

[gritty hearth]

i need c6 faru bc my cds gonna be low , around 150 (?) or 140 depends on artifact luck

[rugged sparrow]

I mean getting 70/140 on a non-crit weap + non-crit ascension char is already good

that's basically 220cv

[gritty hearth]

mm

true

[rugged sparrow]

that feather and circlet looks good though

flower is nice too ig but 2 dead subs

[sterile ruin]

Whats Gaming’s notable constellation?

[rugged sparrow]

all of them looks good from what I saw

[sterile ruin]

Like provide a huge support to him

Damn

[gritty hearth]

yeahh 2 dead stats but it still rolled into a even amount so idm

[rugged sparrow]

yeh

[haughty lotus]

Do you have nahida or xianyun?

[sterile ruin]

Neither

And dont wanna pull either

[haughty lotus]

Well nahida is BiS for Nilou and xianyun is BiS for gaming

[sterile ruin]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

I CANT MY HUBBY (Itto) IS WAITING FOR ME

[haughty lotus]

You are much better off getting one of them then getting xingqiu from lantern rite

[rugged sparrow]

#1 Itto simp
has no Itto

[sterile ruin]

I DO

BUT NOT HIS WEAPON NOR ANY OF HIS C

[rugged sparrow]

[haughty lotus]

c… what?

[rugged sparrow]

truly the number one Itto simp of all time

[rugged sparrow]

balls

[gritty hearth]

go for c6 r5 itto

[sterile ruin]

CONSTELLATION‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

WHAT DO U THINK IT IS

[dusty cape]

[rugged sparrow]

well you have neither his const nor his C so

[haughty lotus]

A #1 simp would swipe the card, just saying

[sterile ruin]

BROTHER

[rugged sparrow]

back off wench he's mine

[sterile ruin]

A #1 simp whose bank control is in his mom’s hands

[dusty cape]

[sterile ruin]

NO U GET IN LINE

[rugged sparrow]

ok show your Itto

[sterile ruin]

I dont have my phone

[narrow folio]

Use Enka

[sterile ruin]

BROTHER

nah he beats me 😔

[rugged sparrow]

get in line

[sterile ruin]

Mine is 65-170

[narrow folio]

#2 itto simp then

[rugged sparrow]

what weap

[sterile ruin]

NUH UH

[sterile ruin]

NOOOOOOOO

[rugged sparrow]

considering you have no Redhorn

[sterile ruin]

R5 whiteblind

[copper mist]

Obscene. How dare he show so much skin

What has the world come to

[rugged sparrow]

I can use more NSFW art if you want me to but

[narrow folio]

xianyun rp

[sterile ruin]

YES

[narrow folio]

No thanks

[dusty cape]

[rugged sparrow]

ehh respectable

[copper mist]

No. One wishes you to NOT do that

[rugged sparrow]

how about ER and DEF rolls though

[sterile ruin]

uhhhh idr

I forgot my id too man cant use enka

[haughty lotus]

Fake fan

[sterile ruin]

No hoyolab on ipad

[narrow folio]

fake fan

[sterile ruin]

DONT U DARE

[narrow folio]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-26415146

[sterile ruin]

I DREAMT ABT HIM GIVING ME THE REDHORN ALRIGHT

[narrow folio]

dreaming about genshin is concerning

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

now that u mention it, I don't think I've dreamt about genshin

[haughty lotus]

[rugged sparrow]

oh this is hers?

[haughty lotus]

Yes

[rugged sparrow]

119% ER ewugh

[gritty hearth]

ppl dream abt genshin..?

[haughty lotus]

[dusty cape]

[near heron]

I need help

[sterile ruin]

HOWWWWW

[haughty lotus]

It’s a secret

[sterile ruin]

Bro hacked to get my id

[haughty lotus]

[sterile ruin]

coughs uhm, yeah, like who does that

[neon harness]

?

[void coral]

Hi, these are all of my characters. I currently run:

Raiden National (with R1 Engulfing Lightning on Raiden)
and
Xiao, Zhongli, Jean, Faruzan

I love Raiden National and I am doing tons of damage. I also love Xiao. However I am not doing that much damage with him. I mean I usually get around 32k per plunge but that feels weak.

I want to try Alhaitham, Yelan, Kuki, Somebody? but I don't have Nahida and won't probably get her. Who should I use in that slot? Can I make Xiao stronger? Is there another amazing team possible from my characters?

Thanks in advance!

[sterile ruin]

Everything maxed but not crit stats 😔

[gritty hearth]

[sterile ruin]

Xianyun is Xiao’s best support rn since she buffs plunging atk

Right…?

[copper mist]

Xiao has 3 best supports

I'd say C6 Faruzan over Xianyun tho

[haughty lotus]

Sucrose is better than Jean in that team. You also should really pull nahida, it’s a pretty big increase for alhaitham and just every dendro team. Xianyun is also an option if you want a xiao upgrade

[copper mist]

But Xianyun works with carries that are not anemo

[sterile ruin]

HUH

[narrow folio]

[rugged sparrow]

literally just dug your msg history, I found your UID too

[sterile ruin]

BROTHER

[haughty lotus]

Lvl 80, fake fan smg

[rugged sparrow]

hey a Wrio main too

[gritty hearth]

triple crown when

[sterile ruin]

Yep yep

[rugged sparrow]

but what the fuck is this Wrio build

[narrow folio]

I was gonna 90 her and then Navia released

[sterile ruin]

IT WAS OLD OK

[median glade]

WHERE IS MY C6 NOELLE

[opal surge]

show

[median glade]

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[sterile ruin]

I have c6 joelle

[narrow folio]

I don't use her enough to justify that

[void coral]

I don't even have enough primos for Nahida, I doubt I will get either of them unless I stop being a F2P.

[narrow folio]

[rugged sparrow]

for her dignity I wouldn't

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

I'll show this though

[opal surge]

[dusty cape]

[void coral]

I was running Sucrose before I got Jean and it seemed like it was the better option according to the internet. I am not sure though.

[haughty lotus]

Sucrose gives more energy if you have her c1 and she can hold ttds

[narrow folio]

Nice +8, keep rolling it. It has potential

[gritty hearth]

does anyone have a good samachurl route i can use , xianyun uses the scrolls for everything and its driving me insane

[rugged sparrow]

wdym u dont have 1k+ scrolls stockpiled

[narrow folio]

Imagine not having a surplus of them

[rugged sparrow]

but farming megadoc should have a route for it

[gritty hearth]

[rugged sparrow]

idk how update it is though but here

[gritty hearth]

tyty

[narrow folio]

What are you spending these on?

[rugged sparrow]

or if you're lazy to open the doc

[gritty hearth]

nothing , i barely farm them and the ones i did have are gone bc of xianyun

[narrow folio]

You don't even have to farm them, you'd get them passively from just playing the game

[opal surge]

I mean depends on how much you enjoy exploration

[gritty hearth]

im still in sumeru

[narrow folio]

And Samachurls are in Mondstadt, what's your point?

[gritty hearth]

i didnt fight them , i just ran from them

[opal surge]

I also dont have that many and I play this game more than I should

Tbf I started late ig

[narrow folio]

I have 2k gray ones and 200 greens

[copper mist]

I have a bunch now

Farmed extra for Xianyun to triple crown her day one

Sadly I still miss Whale weekly boss mats

4 more

So 2 weeks

It's genuinely so sad

[gritty hearth]

i still haft to farm her lvl 90 scrolls + weapon lvl 90 scrolls then the rest of her talent scrolls

[narrow folio]

I'm going 1/1/10 for her talents

[vapid estuary]

nahida team suggestions?

[quaint fern]

I should probably go farm ruin guard mats....

I think I'm starting to run out

[copper mist]

You are not deserving of one's respect.

[keen stump]

Who is dreams good ?

[narrow folio]

I don't have C6 Xianyun unlike some people so her autos and E damage aren't worthwhile

[quaint fern]

which dreams

[copper mist]

Phooey. You clearly do not understand the finer subtleties. It's not about practicality, it's about the gesture.

[quaint fern]

gilded dreams?

[copper mist]

Thousand Floating Dreams?

[narrow folio]

Phooey

You know she says "Fiddlesticks" when she dies?

[verbal river]

should i pull for cloud retainer if i have kazuha?

[shadow lynx]

Yeh Xianyun is hot so must pull

[verbal river]

im not pulling for looks

is she good

[narrow folio]

She's alright

[copper mist]

I only let her die twice so far, I didn't know that cuz I'm only checking all her voice things once I get friendship 6

But that's perfect

[shadow lynx]

Kazuha and Xianyun are used for two totally different purposes. Xianyun is a healer that allows your DPS to use plunge attacks, Kazuha is a debuffer

[narrow folio]

Dude, the amount of times I've gotten hit mid E should be a crime

[neon harness]

[narrow folio]

I also got hit while using her burst

[shadow lynx]

Xianyun has no grouping capabilities at all, for Kazuha that's his mo

[quaint fern]

no that's venti's mo

[narrow folio]

I gotta go farm specters

[shadow lynx]

Venti is better but we're just comparing Xianyun to Kazuha rn

[quaint fern]

those are the worst 💀

[sterile ruin]

im back

[narrow folio]

handguards are worse imo

[quaint fern]

I hated getting those to level oathsworn for xianyun

[copper mist]

Handguards are fine

Spectres are worse

[shadow lynx]

Farming SPECTERS are horrible

[narrow folio]

[sterile ruin]

THIS OMG

[opal surge]

Oh no I just got the most cope goblet I have seen in a long time but I think its an upgrade for me over attack goblet

[quaint fern]

good thing I've only leveled one character and one weapon who needed handguards

[copper mist]

Also I don't know Spectres locations off the top of my head

[narrow folio]

The droprate on handguards alone should warrant jail time

[shadow lynx]

there'a lmsot always so far away from the teleport waypoint its fokin unreal

[copper mist]

On-set lol

[quaint fern]

and those two just had to be in 2.0 before I could passively build up a stash of handguards

[sterile ruin]

my gorou farming era is now long behind

[shadow lynx]

its so bad I use the shop if I'm short lol

[narrow folio]

cryo simp

[sterile ruin]

and im short on stardust too cuz i dont pull 💀💀💀

[verbal river]

cuz i got c6 faruzan from c2 nahida and i have xiao if i put faruzan cr xiao in the same team will that be alot of damage?

[quaint fern]

💀 I needed specters for kok, shinobu, the catch, mailed flower, and oathsworn

[sterile ruin]

MAILED FLOWER USES SPECTER?

[shadow lynx]

Faruzan with Xiao heck yeh

[sterile ruin]

HELL NAH IM USING THE MELUSINE SWORD FOR GAMING FUCK IT

[quaint fern]

yeah I just checked wiki

[narrow folio]

I need them to finish leveling my Oathsworn, I was taking a break when Mailed Flower was out

I also need them for something else

[quaint fern]

I don't remember if I leveled umbrella, but for sure I used handguards for ayaka, mist, and finale

[copper mist]

I used Handguards for Ayaka, Yae, Raiden, two Mists, Engulfing... Idk

A lot anyway

[verbal river]

16 pity OMG

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[vagrant kayak]

would furinas weapon work on a dps c1 nilou

like is it the bis for a dps nilou or would key be better bc i have key

[iron tundra]

how much hp and energy recharge does yelan need (the spreadsheet doesnt say)

[neon harness]

team?

[sick quarry]

i hope i get one early too i lost pity to dehya

[neon harness]

as for hp, try to get more than 30k, but more is definitly better as long as you can balance crit and get enough er

[iron tundra]

and like 160-170 er?

[neon harness]

depends on team

[iron tundra]

just like a hutao support sub dps

[neon harness]

is xingqiu on the team?

[iron tundra]

yea

[neon harness]

weapon on xingqiu? fav or sac or somethings

[iron tundra]

sac r5

[mortal sparrow]

Server: eu
Adventure Rank (AR): 54
World Level (WL): 7
Desired activities: co op achivements killing bosses
In-game name (Optional):
UID (Optional): 764756806

[neon harness]

#👥gimshim-coop

[neon harness]

164 er if yelan isnt using fav, 151 if she is

this is assuming not c1, so 1 skill

[honest cedar]

I successfully logged into my FB acc on genshin, but it's not the correct account?? Does linking the correct account help?

[iron tundra]

ok im running er sands and i got 68/126 177 er (34k hp) is that good?

[shadow lynx]

34k HP with ER sands is veri good

[honest cedar]

i still need help

[iron tundra]

ok cool

[honest cedar]

Can someone help me with this

[stark sandal]

bro, if account sharing is against hoyo tos, why can streamers like tuonto do that?

example when they pull for viewers

[iron tundra]

i guess it isnt as heavily enforced, same with account buying i suppose

[honest cedar]

this is a pic of my account i was trying to get into (This is an old pic)

[stark sandal]

i just got banned from unofficial genshin server bcs i said that i shared acc with a friend

[iron tundra]

damn

[honest cedar]

Can somebody help me please

[stark sandal]

is the server right?

[honest cedar]

yes

when i looked at my old pics it all had the asian UID and i logged into Asia but i just restarted

[quaint fern]

double check that you're logged into asia servers

[honest cedar]

Already did

[quaint fern]

sounds like you should go contact customer support then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

are you sure you made your account with facebook and not google, hoyoverse, playstation, apple (I think you can?)

[honest cedar]

i did it with google

[quaint fern]

then... log in with google?

[earnest canyon]

[honest cedar]

I don't have it in my gmail anymore

[whole wedge]

Did 4.4 break this community or something, what is going on with the CCs

[earnest canyon]

whats cc?

[quaint fern]

you don't have access to the gmail anymore? or the account isn't linked to the gmail??

[honest cedar]

Yes and yes

[quaint fern]

either way, this probably isn't the right place if you don't have access anymore

https://discord.com/channels/522681957373575168/737245587623379044

[whole wedge]

Content creator

[quaint fern]

so you're saying that someone else logged into your account, bound the account to a new email and now you can't log in?

[quaint fern]

if so, please do visit this

there is nothing we (ourselves) can do to help you

[honest cedar]

alright then

[quaint fern]

I really would recommend that you bind the account to a hoyoverse account though

[verbal river]

whats the rotation for this team

[median glade]

faru > furina > birb > xiao

[wraith jetty]

furina > furina > furina > furina (she is all that matters on this earthly realm)

[iron tundra]

is atk sands fine on xiangling until i get a er one?

[haughty lotus]

ATK / em / ER, depends on what weapon and what team you are using

[iron tundra]

im using fav in a raiden national

[haughty lotus]

Fav is pretty bad there

Give her dragonsbane if your raiden is on catch

[lone tinsel]

Ga-Ming teams?

[haughty lotus]

Send a picture of your character list

[lone tinsel]

I ain’t got furina or xianyun

[lone tinsel]

Alr

[lone tinsel]

[iron tundra]

i need that er ngl ( i have 171 with fav)

[haughty lotus]

170 is enough even without fav

[wraith jetty]

What you got against faruzan 😢

[haughty lotus]

Fav is too much of a drop in her personal damage

[haughty lotus]

Gaming Bennett Kazuha/sucrose yelan/xingqiu

[wraith jetty]

sucrose mentioned

[iron tundra]

so is atk sands aight?>

[lone tinsel]

Alr thanks

[haughty lotus]

EM is better, if you are using dragonsbane you will need an ER sands tho

[lone tinsel]

Is this a good build

Ima change the hydro goblet later cuz it got a lot of crit

[haughty lotus]

[lone tinsel]

56/144⁉️

[haughty lotus]

Send the build with enka.network

[wraith jetty]

wgs looks good on him but why not use debate club (the best weapon)

[haughty lotus]

Explain the hp sands

[haughty hawk]

meow

[wraith jetty]

so true

[lone tinsel]

Not enough pieces for 4 piece

[lone tinsel]

Am I cooked

[haughty lotus]

His talent priority is skill > burst >= NA

You just have to keep farming. Obviously hp sands and hydro goble isn’t usable

[iron tundra]

i just started building her like yesterday so yea thanks

[iron tundra]

do you have furina

[lone tinsel]

“Farmingfarmingfarming”

[lone tinsel]

Nope

Biggest regret

[iron tundra]

i dont think marchuesse works with gaming without furina

[haughty lotus]

He drains his own hp

[iron tundra]

oh rlly

mb

[lone tinsel]

All good

[lone tinsel]

Should I use gravestone (r1) mailed flower (r5) or rainslasher (r2)

Bet

[haughty lotus]

If it’s vape a high refine rainslasher will be better

Not sure about low refined, maybe it’s still better

[lone tinsel]

Mmmm

I’ll figure it out soon enough

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/nobara-watermelon-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-kugisaki-gif-10701807415222282140

[lone tinsel]

Me asf

[haughty lotus]

Same

[lone tinsel]

🗣️🗣️

[quaint fern]

a wise person once said

just use optimizer™️

[tidal perch]

Hey which banner will be after xiao and miko any idea?

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wraith jetty]

Almost certainly chiori, and it would make sense for albedo to run with her, but that’s just speculation

[quaint fern]

archons have historically ran 4 patches after their initial release

so probably furina in 4.6

[wraith jetty]

True

[quaint fern]

but hoyo could break the pattern

so we'll just have to wait and see

but yeah, the only confirmed banner character for next patch is chiori

[tidal perch]

I am waiting for yelan and furina so should I pull in this banner ?

[quaint fern]

you want furina? I'd say no

we're speculating 4.6 and that's not very far off

at the earliest, that's about two months away

not nearly enough time to guarantee her so I'd be saving every last primo if you really want furina

(unless you're a whale, then do whatever the hell you want ig)

[tidal perch]

If I was a whale I would not be here asking what to pull lol

Furina is good with hutao?

[round scroll]

Random question but am I insane for building my wanderer around Marechausse instead of Desert Pavilion lol

This build works pretty well in abyss, it's just the niche is that he's essentially soulbound to my C2 Furina because of Marechausse's passive lol (also I have C6 Faruzan so that leaves me with 1 flex slot that needs to be a healer for furina lol)

My goal is to get 54:300 crit

[wraith jetty]

theoretically yes but she sucks hp so you’ve gotta either be a god tier dodger or run zhongli

[quaint fern]

if you have xianyun? apparently plunge combos are competitive with c1 hu tao combos

otherwise, sidegrade to double hydro comps and worse than VV vape

[tidal perch]

Currently I am using hutao water sword boy mona zhongli

Was confused what to pull as my close.to my pity not guaranteed

[opal surge]

can also just play furina bennet with hutao its completely fine

[quaint fern]

^

[opal surge]

or furina jean, but yeah furina XY would be ideal

[quaint fern]

you're swapping out zhongli and mona

[tidal perch]

My luck is going good so I might get limited 5* in this pity also

[quaint fern]

for you, I think furina would be an upgrade to your hu tao team

but if you learn how to play vv vape? forget about it unless you have xianyun

[tidal perch]

Currently I am doing 80k to 110k per charge attack

[opal surge]

thats abnormally high variance

[wraith jetty]

i do like 10k lol

[tidal perch]

By using Mona's burst and water sword boys burst and with zhonglis shield

[tidal perch]

What really?

[buoyant acorn]

If it works, it works, but i'd replace tome for bell, even if the ratio is destroyed

[quaint fern]

mona's omen debuff doesn't last long enough

[tidal perch]

Long enough to kill 😈😈

[opal surge]

Oh youre using mona that explains the variance

[quaint fern]

generally, she's not recommended if you have other options

hell, I'd probably just go yunjin and do hu tao double geo

[round scroll]

Yeah I'm planning on getting C2 and his signature weapon on his rerun.

[wraith jetty]

yeah my hutao isn’t built at all

[tidal perch]

Yunjin zhongli water sword boy and hutao right?

[opal surge]

I do think VV vape is a fairly significant upgrade from playing mona xq ZL, but vv vape setups can be a bit of a hassle to learn depending on how optimal you want it to be

[quaint fern]

"water sword boy" has a name

[wraith jetty]

dolphin boy

[buoyant acorn]

Farm more, the build is just ok, you don't need that much er pre c2, get more atk% sub

[tidal perch]

Vv vape means that ventis set right?

[buoyant acorn]

Viridescent venerer

[wraith jetty]

sucrose

[round scroll]

I see. The goblet and circlet could be better but my luck with circlets is atrocious. I started playing in July of last year and still have yet to get ONE circlet with crit damage or crit rate with both crit damage and crit rate substats

[opal surge]

vv vape in this case just means running an anemo support with hutao, its in a special category because you also need a second pyro unit to setup

Its usually Hutao XQ Sucrose/kazuha Bennet/Thoma/Amber

[wraith jetty]

amber mentioned

[tidal perch]

I got kazuha venti sucrose wanderer faruzan

Oh yeah I forgot to mention I use that double hydro bonus for hp also

[sterile ruin]

what are the regional fishing rods for

[round scroll]

Being useless

[tidal perch]

Oakwood rod

[wraith jetty]

fishing mains

[sterile ruin]

cmon, does that mean i better grind for the catch before the rod

[round scroll]

Yeah

[sterile ruin]

alr

[round scroll]

Lmao it's better to just focus on what you need rather than stuff you don't need for fishing

As annoying as it is, just go to coop and steal people's fish when you run out in your world