📌gimshim-help

[bronze lintel]

Ok thx

[lusty cloud]

how about i swap out diluc for xiangling

and keqing

i uhhhh

idk what to do with her

[haughty lotus]

send a picture of your character list

[neon harness]

^

[haughty lotus]

not as ^ as you

[haughty hawk]

send a pic of u

[haughty lotus]

🖐️

[nova swift]

Not as worth it as you

[haughty hawk]

pardon?

[haughty lotus]

raideez benjamin xiangling chev

[neon harness]

sussy name, anyways
get xingqiu next patch and run raiden xingqiu xiangling benny

[haughty lotus]

you dont have good characters for diluc and keqing

[lusty cloud]

i just use diluc to crap out big overload damage

[reef comet]

I hope your 15x crowned Lumine died and went to hell

||to meet me||

[lusty cloud]

jesus 3 pyro

[haughty lotus]

diluc overload is bad

[neon harness]

for fischl to play agg keqing or sumthin

[spare garden]

Is wavebreaker fin fine on xaingling with national?

[rugged sparrow]

sure, better at high refine too

[neon harness]

1. Staff of the Scarlet Sands (5✩)
2. Staff of Homa (5✩)
   ~= Engulfing Lightning (5✩)
   ~= "The Catch" (4✩) [R5]
3. Primordial Jade Winged-Spear (5✩)
   ~= Skyward Spine (5✩)
   ~= Calamity Queller (5✩)
   ~= Deathmatch (4✩)
   ~= Ballad of the Fjords (4✩)*
4. Vortex Vanquisher (5✩)
   ~= Wavebreaker's Fin (4✩)*
   ~= Dragon's Bane (4✩)*
5. Missive Windspear (4✩)
6. Kitain Cross Spear (4✩)*
7. Lithic Spear (4✩)*
8. Favonius Lance (4✩)*
9. Prototype Starglitter (4✩)
   Wavebreaker's Fin: At [R5], this weapon is equal to or outperforms Staff of Homa, depending on your total team burst cost.

[reef comet]

Get soss

[neon harness]

get bals

[spare garden]

I see

Ty

[civic kelp]

Still trying to get more CR and ER

[neon harness]

do you not have er sands?

[civic kelp]

Sadly not

[neon harness]

😔

[lusty cloud]

What kinda goblet is that

[nova swift]

Not as fine as you

[civic kelp]

I think it could be better, i mean 2 rolls on DEF

[haughty hawk]

not as not as fine as you

[haughty lotus]

he's asking something else...

[shadow lynx]

My Raiden is also pretty mid trust

[civic kelp]

My bad, i was talking about the circlet, but yeah the goblet is really good

[haughty lotus]

it's the shape, not the stats

[haughty hawk]

i like ur shape

[haughty lotus]

how so?

[reef comet]

Nice but

[haughty lotus]

but what?

[reef comet]

plu

[haughty lotus]

eyebrow

[shadow lynx]

RAIDEN VERI NICELY SHAPED

[reef comet]

?

[worthy siren]

Overload does more damage stacking EM right?

[haughty hawk]

😏

[warped oracle]

Yes but there’s no real situation where your building EM for overload

In most situations overload is just nice side damage, like in a overvap comp

[regal bluff]

Finally got raiden, which artifact combo is better?

[worthy siren]

oooo--- what character focuses on ovwrvape

[small blade]

Electro DMG bonus one

[regal bluff]

Thank you! I just see some people with crazy ER numbers around and was worried mine was a bit too low

[rugged sparrow]

"crazy ER number" is generally only desirable if you run her with her signature

[warped oracle]

Raiden and Yoimiya mostly

[dusty cape]

(wh)el(e) users

[regal bluff]

That explains that more given the passive, I was wondering why that was

[rugged sparrow]

very good Raiden artis though, sheesh

[regal bluff]

Ty, I prefarmed in advance since I had her on guaranteed

[dusty cape]

I was about to cry because I have to go back to emblem but I can just strongbox now

[reef comet]

Bro prefarmed

[reef comet]

Thought you have like 250cv emblem sets already

[dusty cape]

I don’t think I have even one 250 cv character

[reef comet]

Let me stalk

[dusty cape]

alright (don’t cancel me memey)

[reef comet]

5 250 cv characters

[rugged sparrow]

whel

[dusty cape]

[sick quarry]

For the raiden nat team, what level and weapons should everyone run? (Raiden, Bennet, Xingqiu, Xiangling)

[reef comet]

80/90 EL raiden, 80/90 or 90/90 aquila bennett, 80/90 jade xingqiu, 80/90 soss xiangling

[sick quarry]

Soss? Jade?

[rugged sparrow]

everyone 90/90 and 90/90 weapon

[reef comet]

staff of the scarlet sands, jade is jade

[sick quarry]

Oh i dont have those

[rugged sparrow]

it'd be better if you post what you have first than asking an open-ended question like that

[strong wadi]

If I were to roll for chevreuse, who would be better to "luckily" win early 50/50 for? Shogun or Yoi?

[rugged sparrow]

neither if you don't like them

[warped oracle]

Raiden has far more diversity in the team comps you could use her in so her but OXD is right

[sick quarry]

I forgor. My bad. Here are my weapons

[dusty cape]

patience be a virtue

[nova swift]

Not as nicely shaped as you

[slate tinsel]

Anyone have a build guide for Chevy?

[rugged sparrow]

Catch XL, Lion's Roar Xq (assuming you dont need as much ER), Aquila Bennett (Skyward is fine too)

[sick quarry]

Is sac sword not their best F2P weapon?

[rugged sparrow]

it's good if you're running double hydro where you need the particles badly, but otherwise inferior dmg-wise, especially in Rational since you have Raiden to give energy back
also idk if calling it "f2p" is correct since it's from gacha but w/e

[haughty lotus]

https://keqingmains.com/q/chevreuse-quickguide/

[slate tinsel]

Oh thanks I didn't think they'd have one up already

[rancid dagger]

Weird question, is there a cite to see who has the number one built character?

[haughty lotus]

https://akasha.cv/leaderboards

[pulsar zinc]

best build

[haughty lotus]

please dont tell me you pulled her specifically for hyperbloom

[rugged sparrow]

only 4 EM subs roll total too ohno

[rancid dagger]

This not bad?

[dusty cape]

someone sponsor me a emblem sands please

[rugged sparrow]

it's average, not bad but can definitely be improved

also not 4p Shim 😔

[small blade]

4 star goblet

[dusty cape]

[haughty lotus]

gotta make that c1 useful

[dusty cape]

I’ll give you my yae goblet if you give me a sands

[rugged sparrow]

I just realized this

[haughty lotus]

deal

[dusty cape]

I should probably go to the emblem mines so I can make minor upgrades to yomia 😔

handguards

[haughty lotus]

im out too

[dusty cape]

someone remind hoyo to increase drop rates I’m dying

[neon harness]

skill issue, just don’t pull characters that need hand guards

[haughty lotus]

yeah, ill just pull on exclusively weapon banner

[dusty cape]

why does trial yoi have a eula crit ratio

“wth man none of these shots are criting”

[neon harness]

that sounds like the perfect plan

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

ill pull on u

[haughty lotus]

sure 😏

[haughty hawk]

😏

[dusty cape]

woah

[ripe surge]

how good is r1 serpent spine for navia?

[strange scarab]

Its her 4* bis

[ripe surge]

its already really good even at r1?

[strange scarab]

It competes with other 5 star weapons

[frank spindle]

Hydro dmg bonus or HP bonus goblet for nevulette

[pulsar zinc]

hydro, hp if with furina

[haughty lotus]

Team and weapon?

[frank spindle]

Furina, Kaz, charletoto and I got prototype Amber

[spring karma]

1 or 2

[haughty lotus]

its pretty close then, use whichever has better substats or optimizer if you want to be sure

[spiral mantle]

YAYYYYYY

[frank spindle]

Ok thx

[haughty lotus]

id also switch charlotte to a shielder if your neuvillette is c0

[haughty lotus]

use the first circlet and the second sands, off piece an electro goblet

[frank spindle]

Yeah but I haven’t ran into any interruption problems and don’t have a shielder built

If I start getting my ass beat I’ll get a sheilder lol

[haughty hawk]

layla >0<

[keen condor]

Do pets stay in abyss with u?

[rugged sparrow]

they disappear during combat so

[keen condor]

oH

oki

[pulsar zinc]

so for navia dps, u burst, skill, na, then skill right?

[rugged sparrow]

if she on-fields yes

you want to use burst at the start of the rot ideally

Navia burst > support stuff > Navia strings > repeat

[pulsar zinc]

ic thought support first then burst

[rugged sparrow]

her burst doesn't snapshot and is ideally used first to help her accumulate shrapnel stacks

it also helps to proc crystallize to accelerate her stack generation when she takes on-field

[pulsar zinc]

ahh tru tru

[near prism]

You can also use it after long lasting off fields like furina or albedo or zl

Just to get better buff uptime on it

[rugged sparrow]

ill buff ur mother

on the top of your head, do you remember how much worse is Gilded vs. CW on Diluc @near prism

[near prism]

Like 5% or something, but changes depending on the team

[native summit]

im gonna ask something

should i give homa to xiangling and catch to raiden?

[near prism]

Otherway around

[native summit]

ok

[near prism]

Catch is better for XL in most teams unless your actively speedrunning

Same goes for homa on Raiden, except homa on Raiden is better universally

[near prism]

Also, it's weird, I should be excited for chev considering my diluc overload shenanigans

But I just feel sad, I genuinely don't think she'd even be that good there

[rugged sparrow]

not with that attitude

[near prism]

If by attitude you mean not with that kit then sure

[ripe surge]

how much dmg increase is c1 nahida?

[rugged sparrow]

at least 1

[near prism]

Ranges from small dmg increase to damage decrease

[rugged sparrow]

rip burnmeltyu team

[near prism]

Granted it'll rarely be a damage decrease but it changes TKP procs so it also changes timings

[ripe surge]

how about c2?

[rugged sparrow]

like 20-30% iirc

[small pond]

idk who i wanna use my guaranteed on 😔

[ripe surge]

how high is bloom dmg on c2 nahida?

[reef comet]

higher than normal

[rugged sparrow]

it's... literally stated

on the constellation itself

Burning, Bloom, Hyperbloom, and Burgeon Reaction DMG can score CRIT Hits. CRIT Rate and CRIT DMG are fixed at 20% and 100% respectively.

[neon harness]

smh, genshin players cant read, what did u expect

[reef comet]

balls

sus

[keen condor]

20 cr and 100 cd thats like a 20% chance to double dmg right?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[keen condor]

Wait does this work with nuilu bloom

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[keen condor]

Wtf

Thats so broken holy shit

[rugged sparrow]

I mean

it just averages to 20% dmg boost across the board so

[keen willow]

Hutao

[warped oracle]

Ever since raiden the c2 of archons always tends to be insane as hell

Like Furina c2 is cracked and lets her basically sneeze for her full stacks and Raiden c2 lets her just hypercarry

Nahida c2 is great, but pretty much all of Nahida is great

[native summit]

do 150% more damage everytime you sneeze
literally every archon C2 after raiden

[torpid coyote]

does the attack main stat from artifact incrase hu tao elemental damage (e). Since I'm wondering if the benett burst would increase her damage (benett is c3)

[reef comet]

hutao is both a hp scaler + atk scaler, so yes

[warped oracle]

Atk does increase hu Taos damage however you really shouldn’t run her with bennett due to Bennett’s healing

[copper mist]

Nah run her with Bennett

[warped oracle]

You can, but you might just end up making your team overall weaker

[torpid coyote]

well I gotta do with the char I got lol

[copper mist]

Bennett's buffs (especially at C6) are way more stats than Hu Tao's measly 33% pyro dmg

[torpid coyote]

I have benett, hu tao, xq and sucrose

I have benett c3

[copper mist]

[warped oracle]

Yeah that works

[torpid coyote]

Okie

[copper mist]

Rosaria fan though. Based

I should actually build my Rosaria someday to deal big dmg

And I need to build Chongyun

[viral creek]

betta get to spending

[olive isle]

my rosaria is 80/80 for 2 years

[visual gale]

what stats do I want for Bennets artifacts?(support)

[dire nova]

Should I c6 my bennet

i have c8 bennet now after today's banners

[rugged sparrow]

there's no real drawback to c6-ing Bennett, spare for some Eula team that'd want to use Bennett for whatever reason

you can also argue the case of melt DPS Bennett with Chong but

[dire nova]

Ok thanks, I don't plan on ever getting Eula so that shouldn't be a problem

[unkempt river]

Where's the new event? Dance of Res. Will?

[warped oracle]

Not available yet for EU

[unkempt river]

Ah? Meh :/

[warped oracle]

It’s only an hour away

[unkempt river]

Meh

[limber goblet]

would r5 fading twilight or r1 scion be better for tighnari ran with nahida yae fischl? currently has a cr circlet

if there’s nahida he probably doesn’t need that much er so scion would probably be better?

[olive isle]

slingshot >>>> ones that you suggested

[neon harness]

1. Hunter's Path (5☆)
2. Aqua Simulacra (5☆)
   ~= Polar Star (5☆)
   ~= The First Great Magic (5☆)*
3. Skyward Harp (5☆)
   ~= Thundering Pulse (5☆)
   ~= Elegy for the End (5☆)*
4. Scion of the Blazing Sun (4☆)*
   ~= Amos' Bow (5☆)*
   ~= Fading Twilight [R5] (4☆)*
5. The Viridescent Hunt (4☆)
6. Slingshot (3☆)* [R5]
   ~= Range Gauge (4☆)*
   ~= Windblume Ode [R5] (4☆)
   ~= Song of Stillness (4☆)*
7. Prototype Crescent (4☆)*
   ~= Ibis Piercer (4☆) [R5]

[olive isle]

tighnari can run with 0 er

[neon harness]

Scion of the Blazing Sun: At [R5] this weapon is equal to Thundering Pulse.
Fading Twilight: If Tighnari does not need the Energy Recharge this weapon provides, it is similar to Prototype Crescent in terms of damage.

scion is better

[limber goblet]

cool thanks

[olive isle]

ok scion then

[neon harness]

what if i used u as nari weapon

[olive isle]

what the

🥶

[reef comet]

is that a death threat

[neon harness]

😏

[olive isle]

🤨

[earnest canyon]

[hidden flower]

i gyat to build chev

[keen condor]

guys guys i got big leaks cloudretainer is a anemo female thats tall also hot

[neon harness]

[frozen obsidian]

which teams does c6 Benny breaks?

[rugged sparrow]

realistically none

[reef comet]

at least -1

[frozen obsidian]

gotcha

c6 it is!

[reef comet]

it's jerry's fault

[rugged sparrow]

wat

[reef comet]

[glacial thunder]

What’s the best artifact set for a Furina Sub-dps

And does it fits with Neuvi

[warped oracle]

4pc Golden troupe

it's always 4pc Golden Troupe

[glacial thunder]

Not sure but is it like neuvi im the main stat has to be focused on Hp rate?

[neon harness]

hp sands and goblet

if she is not c2+

crit circlet

[warped oracle]

Hp sands / Hp goblet (or hydro damage if c2) / Crit

[glacial thunder]

Crit for the circlet? Okay thx

Actually I have a team w/

• Nahida
• Neuvillette
• Zhongli
• Yae Miko

I’d like to change Yae with Raiden and Zhongli with Furina but I’m not sure if it is worth it

[rugged sparrow]

hyperbloom Neuv sleepge

[neon harness]

is ur nuevi c1?

i dont see how furina can replace zhongli

raiden skill dmg support is.. something? imo just give her to another team

do you have jean? kazuha? venti?

[glacial thunder]

Yeah but I kinda want to use them (in exploration purposes) cause i like those chara

[neon harness]

overworld teams doesnt matter, just use who you like

[glacial thunder]

It’s just I like Furina but also Neuvillette

[haughty lotus]

they are very good together

you just want a shielder at c0

[glacial thunder]

Okay was just asking to be sure

[neon harness]

nuevi furina zhongli jean/venti/kaz, good abyss team options for furina nuevi

[neon harness]

sleb when

[reef comet]

meme is mixing nuts

[neon harness]

whos nuts

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/tokki-sip-anime-drinks-gif-14789884

[glacial thunder]

Well i’ll take that in consideration for next abyss thx

[neon harness]

so urs?

[haughty lotus]

mixed nuts

[reef comet]

❓

[neon harness]

🐳

[reef comet]

no, deeznut

[glacial thunder]

Suggon deeanutq

Candace nuts fit in your mouth

[neon harness]

[glacial thunder]

Imposter

[frozen obsidian]

256 ER w/ Spine or 220 w/ PJWS for Raiden?

[haughty lotus]

depends, but the spine build has a lot of ER which isnt needed and PJWS ranks slightly higher than spine

[rugged sparrow]

better post enka build

[frozen obsidian]

I see..

[frozen obsidian]

I'll post in a bit once it refreshes. Just plugged her into my profile.

[reef comet]

@dusty cape whelele

[frozen obsidian]

@haughty lotus she would be 65/160 w/ lv90 PJWS, but yeah, I need way better artis!

[reef comet]

she has no crit rate

[rugged sparrow]

farm better artis then

[frozen obsidian]

I have plenty to strongbox, but I ran out of mora to level any up

[wide dirge]

Is this good on anyone?

[rugged sparrow]

it's good for catalyst DPSes in general, every catalyst DPS can benefit from it

[wide dirge]

Neuvilette? 💀

[rugged sparrow]

well *every atk-scaling catalyst DPS

[wide dirge]

Aw man 😔

[cedar flint]

give it to Charlotte

her heal will skyrocket

[wide dirge]

Does Wanderer want it over windsth?

[wide dirge]

She's being used as the camera person

[rugged sparrow]

Widsith is preferable if you have external atk buffs in play

[keen condor]

furina jean faruzan wandrer team only way to make skyward good

[wide dirge]

He doesn't

[keen condor]

no bennet?

[wide dirge]

No, I'm running him in an exploration team:
Wanderer, Yelan, Furina, Jean

[keen condor]

skyward could be better im not sure let me check

[wide dirge]

Sure, thank you

[keen condor]

its better

[keen willow]

Widsith is very buff dependent.. skyward is definitely more comfortable

[keen condor]

also could be better even if u use bennet but its a small diff

Is there a better yoi team than yoi yelan zhongli bennet?

Is she better than c6 bennet crowned with aquilla?

[haughty lotus]

If she is c6

[keen condor]

mines is c3

[queen remnant]

where is this hydroculus

[haughty lotus]

Fake yomia player

[keen condor]

hey i did 220 pulls on yoi banner she didnt come tf u want me to do

oh wait that was her weapon i did 120 in yois banner

[keen willow]

Even mine is c4

[keen condor]

they say sharing is caring frfr

[rugged sparrow]

the map points to up, so look up

[keen willow]

I'd give you all 4 if i could

[queen remnant]

i climbed the mountain too

[keen willow]

Interactive map when

[civic totem]

Does Kazuha c2 give 400 EM to himself? or just 200?

[median glade]

when on field

[civic totem]

yeah

[reef comet]

only 200 iirc, as it does not stack

[median glade]

[civic totem]

I won then

[civic totem]

thx

[copper mist]

Rate how many pee pee out of poo poo

this circlet dude... Sigh

and the sands xddmods

[rancid gulch]

alot of pee pees out of poopoos

[ripe surge]

what does c4 jean do exactly? and how useful is it for furina teams?

[rugged sparrow]

anemo shred

it's irrelevant to Furina in specific

[copper mist]

ty

[rancid gulch]

thumbs up emoji

[viral creek]

so, what do I even give raiden?

[copper mist]

In what sense?

[frozen obsidian]

Your fealty

[copper mist]

Like gift? In Natura?

[viral creek]

i guess just generally strong? I still need a main dps for wl8

just a raiden build in general

[copper mist]

Ik what I would give raiden

but that's not pg

[copper mist]

Catch

Emblem of Severed Fate

[viral creek]

do you just have a direct link to a good build?

[copper mist]

Yes check this channel's pins.

[viral creek]

unsure if the one in pins is what i would want, lemme recheck

[copper mist]

It's exactly what you should want

[viral creek]

rate the build

wait what's hyperbloom?

[frozen obsidian]

Perfect score of 5/7.

[viral creek]

just a few more

wait what the hell is the catch

[rancid gulch]

hyperbloom is electro right

[viral creek]

oh no it's fishing

[ripe surge]

ohh, it doesnt increase swirl dmg or anything like that? just anemo?

[rancid gulch]

whay

[urban ivy]

Is bursting every rotation important for chevreuse?

[rugged sparrow]

correct

[rugged sparrow]

the trigger is electro, but the damage is dendro

[rancid gulch]

but

i swear my hyperbloom was purple

[rugged sparrow]

you're drunk

[rancid gulch]

whay

[copper mist]

No

[urban ivy]

Is it just like Nilou's ult? Where it's just a nice complimentary dmg?

[copper mist]

Kind of

All of her buffing is in her passive and her E

[urban ivy]

What's the best set for her anyway?

[copper mist]

So yes similar to Nilou

[copper mist]

Noblesse if no one has that kinda? But I'd say just try to get 40K HP

Or you can build her for damage and disregard her attack buff

Or just instructor or something idk if you don't care at all

Personally my build just has Fav, 40k HP and enough crit rate to proc Fav and a bunch of ER

No set bonus

[urban ivy]

Tenacity could help right?

[urban ivy]

Also how much hp% substat Do u have?

[reef comet]

you just need 3 hp mainstats + 1 flower + level 90 and she already has 36k hp

[dusty cape]

[reef comet]

mwah

[copper mist]

Total? I think it said like 240% total when ascending. If you mean just from artifacts this is my build

so yeah literally 14% on flower and flat HP subs here and there

[jolly junco]

i thought you a whalege

where c6

[copper mist]

Yeah but I'm not crazy anymore

Not going for 4 star C6 anymore dude

Lynette and Faruzan cost me too much

[jolly junco]

whalege status revoked

[copper mist]

Yes.

Just C0 cost me over 40 wishes

[reef comet]

did you get extra starglitter from yomia

[copper mist]

I did not hit a pity thank god

I was wishing on Raiden anyway

[dusty cape]

3 am ping sussy

[copper mist]

I'll get C6 Chevreuse if she reruns on a dead patch Ig

[reef comet]

time leak, nice try, ill doxx your place

[copper mist]

Or ofc runs under a charatcer I actually want

[olive isle]

they will go in your walls

[dusty cape]

ok

[urban ivy]

Using tenacity, triple hp, fav is probably her best build if she doesn't use nobless?

[reef comet]

go back to sleep

[copper mist]

Tenacity is ass, it lasts for like 3 seconds and her E only hits once.

[dusty cape]

nah

[jolly junco]

still enough time for some characters to snapshot the buff to be fair

[reef comet]

i'd win

[copper mist]

True, it's okayge for Fischl/Xiangling team

But besides that

[reef comet]

it's not that deep, just get 40k hp, 2p2p hb, use E, switch off, profit

[copper mist]

yea

2p2p healing bonus real

shiiibal +40% healing over 2k for one character

Don't go crazy now

[urban ivy]

Ok, so she basically doesn't have an artifact set

[copper mist]

Not really

Song of days past is okay at C6

But still way less impactful than other 4pc for other chara

[urban ivy]

I see I see

[haughty hawk]

meow

[swift crown]

[small blade]

[frozen obsidian]

anyone else having issues with genshin optimizer? inventory kamera is scanning all my artifacts, but when i upload it a lot of my equipped artis don't exist somehow

[dusty cape]

nuh uh

[small blade]

Start adding Artifacts manually

[frozen obsidian]

oh hell naw

[ripe surge]

i tried ayaka, ayato, hutao with furina + jean and it hits like a truck

[sick quarry]

Is the dragon bane better than the moonpiecer?

[small blade]

for who?

[sick quarry]

I'm running hyperbloom for Raiden Shogun, Kamisto Ayato, Bazihu, and Nahida. Is for Raiden Shogun.

[ripe surge]

can i put ttds + 4pc noblesse on charlotte?

[small blade]

Dragons bane is better

[sick quarry]

ty

[small blade]

sure

[ripe surge]

but charlotte atk is like 1.2k is that alright lol

[umbral acorn]

Is Yelan, Bennett, Xiangling, Raiden good?

[cedar flint]

well this is basically rainden national team

but with yelan instead of xq

[umbral acorn]

yeah idk im not that into team building I have no clue what a national team is

[sick quarry]

Is there another set besides Flower of Paradise Lost or Gilded Dreams. That I can put on the RS for EM main stats? Is just temporary artifacts.

[small blade]

2pc sets that give EM

or you can just do rainbow sets

[sick quarry]

Like Wander Troupe?

[small blade]

yes

[sick quarry]

Rainbow sets?

[tidal perch]

Guys I can't clear floor 12

I am using these two teams
T1-hutao,waterboy,mona,zhongli
T2-navia,benett,fire bey blade girl,rosaria

[opal surge]

show character list

[tidal perch]

Ok

[strange scarab]

Surely these characters have a name or something

[tidal perch]

Here are all the chars that I have

[keen kernel]

Ideas for 2 teams? Add raiden c0

[spare garden]

You're not at AR 45 , I assume?

[keen kernel]

Im ar 45 in like one week

[spare garden]

Ic

[keen kernel]

In staying at 35, I have 86k/7k ar

[spare garden]

Alright

[keen kernel]

Think to jump, do some quest and be 45

[spare garden]

Raiden, xaingling, Bennett and that new fountain polearm character
Fichl,beidou,kirara and dmc

[river parcel]

~~Do any of you ore i can mine in #findore-here ~~
Edit: Ty! Im done

[keen kernel]

Dmc stay for traveler dendro?

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/tokki-sip-anime-drinks-gif-14789884

[spare garden]

Yeah

[keen kernel]

And new fontaine polearm is chevreuse ok

[spare garden]

Try to get xingqiu

[keen kernel]

Ok now I upgrade chevreuse to lv 80, then when I find him, I sostitute to chevr right?

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-soul-eater-excalibur-gif-25191056

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-genshin-impact-klee-cope-gif-24462233

[spare garden]

You don't need to, that team works just fine but you can if you want

[haughty hawk]

[spare garden]

I was trying to say that you can play hyperbloom with xingqiu

[river parcel]

Pick xq from next patch's lantern rite event for future teams

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/lolia-sip-juice-juice-drinking-gif-12200935

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/kyaru-princess-connect-anime-sip-awkward-gif-26897271

[reef comet]

smash

[haughty hawk]

ill smash u

[reef comet]

??

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

like bug

Okay Xianyun’s most obedient sub

[copper mist]

Okay kafkakisser 9000

[reef comet]

🥺

[reef comet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/947885740627484722/3800CA48-B666-4AC6-9F8D-80E45BCB8CEE.gif

[haughty hawk]

[opal surge]

mona is probably on nobless for ayaka mona sucrose diona right?

[copper mist]

ToTM, Diona Noblesse

[opal surge]

[vague timber]

chat how do i do this

[reef comet]

hits ball

using octopus ability

[vague timber]

wtf is a octopus ability

how do i use it

[reef comet]

the one you're having right now

just hold E

should there be a guide but i assume genshin players can't read

[haughty hawk]

charge the ball and shoot

[vague timber]

HELÖELPP I DIDNT SEE IT 💀

mb chat

yipie i got it

[hidden flower]

hold r2 to use the balloctupus ability, charge n aim, then shoot the ball thru the hoops

[vague timber]

baby i use keyboard 😭 but thank you

[haughty hawk]

@reef comet i saw

[hidden flower]

[haughty hawk]

why are u here

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/tokki-sip-anime-drinks-gif-14789884

saw what though

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-soul-eater-excalibur-sipping-drinking-gif-17500286

[hidden flower]

good morning sig :3

[dense schooner]

Does anyone know how many wishes we are getting during 4.3 second half with welkin and bp counted?

[hidden flower]

alot

[reef comet]

more than 2

[haughty hawk]

good morning kamicheal >0<

[hidden flower]

i asked bout chevy last night and i just never left this channel

[reef comet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/884849474583806069/1104122451165708288/ezgif.com-gif-maker_21.gif

[cedar flint]

it’s just the name of xingling Bennett xq and main dps team very popular team

[haughty hawk]

[copper mist]

National was the name of Chongyun/Xiangling/Xinqiu/Bennett

iirc

[haughty hawk]

i too, never left

[copper mist]

It just stuck for the Xiangling/Xinqiu/Bennett core

[reef comet]

tbh, national is just xiangling bennett flex flex, it's the real national national

[copper mist]

No it's not

[reef comet]

deeznut

xingqiu can be replaced by yelan

[copper mist]

TFW monopyro dehya is now a form of national

[reef comet]

detional /true

[reef comet]

go outside

[vague timber]

LEAVE ME ALONE!!!! I DON'T. WANT. YOU. GET OUT OF MY INVENTORY. NEOW 👺

[haughty hawk]

with you?

[reef comet]

erm, ok

[haughty hawk]

[swift crown]

[urban ivy]

From what I'm seeing, chev bis artifact is tripple hp with millelith and the other 20% hp set, and a few er substat for burst uptime yes?

[reef comet]

i'd say 40k hp with 2p2p hb + fav

[urban ivy]

What's hb?

[reef comet]

you don't really need er since only her E matters

[urban ivy]

Also how about the fontaine hp polearm, any goos?

[reef comet]

healing bonus

[reef comet]

ig better than black tassel

[dusty cape]

[urban ivy]

Ok, so hp hp hb
20% hp+20% hp
Fav for team energy

And hp% substat

[dusty cape]

fontaine weap good if with bennett on the team

[urban ivy]

Why?

[dusty cape]

bennett energy king

I might do it, I don’t have spare favges

[urban ivy]

Fav the goat of 4 star

[copper mist]

Imo Chev personal dmg > healing bonus on her pathetic helaing

[urban ivy]

Is she a hp scaler?

[haughty hawk]

HAIIIIII

[copper mist]

For damage, no, all attack

[reef comet]

well, i'd go 2p2p hb with hp/hp/hp + 30 hp% to get 40k hp, but you do you

[urban ivy]

Just like bennett

[urban ivy]

Oww yeah the healing bonus set, completely forgot about that

[copper mist]

Healing Bonus for like 8k healing seems so pointless

but Ig dmg for 8k dmg is also pointless

[reef comet]

her dmg is also pointless

[urban ivy]

You only need 30% hp from substat to get to 40k?

[copper mist]

If you don't level her talents

[reef comet]

just get c6, E, switch off, frfr

[copper mist]

Probably less

[reef comet]

1 flower + hp/hp/hp + 30% hp + level 90 = 40k hp

[copper mist]

I showed you my build which had a bunch of flat HP but only 14% HP

and she was lv 80

[urban ivy]

Yeah this character doesn't need alot of thinking to maximize, just slap hp until she get to 40k and healing bonus if u got some to spare

[copper mist]

Does this include 24% HP ascension

[reef comet]

i'd assume yes, using optimizer (unless i input something wrong then xd)

[feral forge]

roll or nah

[reef comet]

nah

[dusty cape]

[copper mist]

Nah. Unless you have a 4pc build for Gorou lying around that is still missing a DEF goblet.

Tho Gorou does not even buff based on his own DEF doesn't he?

[reef comet]

healing

[copper mist]

So Ig only Yun Jin might be okay with it as off piece.

[reef comet]

you just go for ER on Gorou

[copper mist]

Right but ER goblet modcheck

[dusty cape]

exile 😻

[copper mist]

Oh true forgor

[opal surge]

albedo piece if you dont have geo goblet

[urban ivy]

but it can record the healing from multiple equipping characters.
Can somebody explain this part of the song of day past passive?

[opal surge]

multiple set holding characters can contribute to stack the yearning effect on it, but it can only creates one instance of yearning and it caps at 15,000

[copper mist]

Wait fr?

[opal surge]

So if all 4 of your characters wear it they all only need to contribute 3,8k

[copper mist]

Oh right but they do need to old the set,

[opal surge]

Yeah multiple set holders only

[copper mist]

that's what I thought before too so ok.

Yeah it's an underpowered set sadly

15k dmg x your dmg% multis x crit is still like pretty nice

but it's an iffy set

for sure

[reef comet]

8% of 15k

= 1200

lol

[urban ivy]

That's 1.0 level of dmg

[copper mist]

Oh right but it's like 8 x that no lol woop

[urban ivy]

Back in the guoba anemo mc meta

[copper mist]

it's not one proc of 8%

6 right

shibal yes it's bad.

[opal surge]

its 5x1200

[urban ivy]

No it's 8%

[copper mist]

oh

[urban ivy]

6000

[opal surge]

but 1200 flat added isnt bad

[copper mist]

I mean

That's half a mediocre Icy Quill

[opal surge]

its not great but its not nearly as terrible as it sounds

[spring karma]

Afternoon Jen help

[copper mist]

Yeah no I am farming the set currently

[opal surge]

I am too, not intentionally though

[reef comet]

lol, copeness

[copper mist]

I am intentionally farming it, I don't have Navia

[opal surge]

Every condensed I put into that domain I die a little more inside

[reef comet]

i expected less from you tbh, mr/mrs. bolide farmer

[copper mist]

Is this a better domain than Flop/Pavillion? Discuss.

[reef comet]

worse

atleast you only farm pavillion for wanderer

[copper mist]

Isn't that the same for Navia

[reef comet]

but fopl isn't days past

[copper mist]

But you just admitted you would only farm it for the sig set. Isn't it effectively as bad then?

I mean no ofc not cuz the other set you don't want is still strictly more useful

[reef comet]

I have wanderer

[copper mist]

yeah this is the worst domain since bolide

[reef comet]

and no one forced you to farm fopl anyway, gilded is nearly as good

[copper mist]

But it's better than Bolide, nothing will ever be as bad as Bolide

[reef comet]

while if you want navia to be good, you should get her bis, furinaless behavior (true)

[copper mist]

Altho Petra is on the rise now

I wish Bolide gave a bigger buff than Shimenawa, it only makes sense with such a specific requirement

Like having a shielder usually already means you are giving up rotation damage

[reef comet]

and you're likely to get fopl/pavillion from strongbox soon™️, while nighttime gonna take another few years

[copper mist]

so if they made na/ca bonus 70% no one would be like that's unreasonable

while also being "worth" for Yoimiya

as it should be

Now it just doesn't give the 18% attack AND a lower 4pc bonus

[reef comet]

i don't know why you suddenly take a u-turn-this-conversation-into-a-selftalk so ill dip

[copper mist]

than Shim

[copper mist]

Wdym you are not just a little minion in my pc?

BANNED

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/tokki-sip-anime-drinks-gif-14789884

@small blade mwah

[copper mist]

But you gotta admit Hoyo made Bolide unnecessarily trash as a set

[reef comet]

i couldn't careless, people will gonna farm shime/emblem and call it a day

[copper mist]

Yeah so they should have fought that more imo

Like how many people were just npc farming emblem domain for over a year

some of them still are

[reef comet]

c6 yelan with 100/300 40k hp 200 er matter more than your yoimiya c6 that does 3 dmg tho, not that it matter but it's unnecessarily that you care about bolide that much

[copper mist]

Mad?

Tbf Hoyo is ass at balancing this game.

I should be in charge

[frigid tide]

Which characters should I use

[opal surge]

the main issue with MH for navia is that at C2 if you have MH you have 89% critrate without artifacts

[reef comet]

why would i be mad, i farm emblem less than anything i've done so far

[copper mist]

Whichever ones you like tbh. It doesn't really matter yet. If you like Rosaria having Fischl on your team for now will feel good

[reef comet]

that is why you need nighttime, yur

[opal surge]

Ive been in nighttime ever since the release of that domain

[copper mist]

Also don't whele Yelans step off from Emblem

[opal surge]

I have one ok sands and one pretty good feather and thats it

[copper mist]

I have a decent song of days past build

71% ER in subs

[opal surge]

my furina got an upgrade from song of days past

[frigid tide]

I want a more efficient team, and I don't wanna waste material on upgrades, using the characters that I use, the fights just seem to stretch forever, at this point I just avoid hilchurls

[opal surge]

[reef comet]

ye, they started building c6 furina, which does more dmg than c6 yelan

[copper mist]

True

[reef comet]

you will get 250 cv days past before nighttime

[opal surge]

probably

I lowkey want to go back to MH domain just to get furina a better goblet so her build is finished but my navia is running on pure cope

just one goblet I beg

[copper mist]

My aunt with her crystal ball told me atk mainstats will be useful soon on this set (when I build charlotte ofc)

[copper mist]

Das not bad. But ER modcheck

[opal surge]

shes on le pipe

[copper mist]

C'est ne pas un pipe

Oh

it's Ce n'est pas un pipe isn't it

[opal surge]

[copper mist]

oh it's

Ceci n'est pas une pipe

[opal surge]

I dont think this means what you think it means

[copper mist]

It says pipe

related

surely

[opal surge]

[sturdy radish]

Is there some kinda guide to only see what I havent got I tried use the interactive map and I still am missing some but cant work out what even with that, its such pain

[copper mist]

I should farm VV again soon lmao. I just want a decent Vermillion Circlet

and/or Sands

I still only have mid VV

[opal surge]

treasure compass

[keen kernel]

Ok I have the first team SS+ raiden xianling bennett chevreuse,
I have other 15 characters and I studied these are the best solution, which is the best?

[sturdy radish]

ooh I forgot about that ahah

[jolly junco]

classic

getting insane pieces on the shit sets fr

[jolly junco]

lisa, fischl, kirara, lynette is decent

ideally kazoo/sucrose instead of lynette

[reef comet]

i feel like you have 220 cv of nighttime set after saying that already

[jolly junco]

I have not even stepped foot into that domain

[keen kernel]

Havent :/

[jolly junco]

my navia is using 4pc golden troupe and she's being used as a quickswap dps with noille

[reef comet]

maybe full set through abyss box (true)

[jolly junco]

lynette is fine for now

[opal surge]

I am also on 4pc GT

[jolly junco]

navia with noelle is basically like geo mc if they were actually good

[reef comet]

you also has a gt sets for navia, whele

[jolly junco]

doesn't have to deal with the shitty constructs and does several times the damage

[keen kernel]

What rotation I use? Like 1. 2. 3. 4.....

[opal surge]

are u doing noelle navia furina yelan?

[jolly junco]

gorou (c6) instead of yelan

[opal surge]

[sick quarry]

Does someone else's teyvat interactive map does this when I on the enable floating window?

[opal surge]

[reef comet]

can relate

this mf took me 1 year to get

[jolly junco]

you don't really need to use a specific rotation especially at early-mid game. maintain Oz from fischl, use lynette to swirl electro and kirara E off-cooldown for the shield and dendro application. spend most of your field time on lisa

[jolly junco]

this variant is pretty good too, or fischl instead of yelan

[opal surge]

Oh I havent tried fischl yet, played a bit with yelan and it felt fun ye

[keen kernel]

Ok thx

Raiden xianling bennett chevreuse is a rly SS+ team? And It's good?

[jolly junco]

it's certainly a viable team, but I would generally still recommend xingqiu instead of chevreuse

against stuff like the hydro tulpa (innate auras) chev can overperform

[haughty hawk]

meow

[haughty hawk]

ur pretty good

[sturdy radish]

100% now :D Thanks to the compass

[keen kernel]

Better
kuki, kirara, dendro traveler barbara /
Lysa fichl kirara lynette

Or mix Idk

No choice

[jolly junco]

the lisa + fischl team is better

[keen kernel]

With lynette inside ok thxx

[haughty hawk]

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

yozhe.

[rugged sparrow]

as long as it rolls purely crit, good for Cinnabar Albedo

[small blade]

How did it roll

[reef comet]

I don't think there is anyone who gonna pull for Albedo or Itto anymore

Or at least more than 1 exist

[rugged sparrow]

who

[reef comet]

you in a parallel world

[rugged sparrow]

asked

[unkempt river]

Benny C6, XL C1, Yelan C1. Which rotation?

[reef comet]

Ain't me, I won't ask if anyone has albedo, the chance is likely to be 0

[rugged sparrow]

how many times have you asked this Ulti

[reef comet]

Like wrio

[rugged sparrow]

is Xq on Sac

[reef comet]

I don't think there is more than 1 wrio user

[haughty hawk]

yo

[copper mist]

Amazing for furina

A lot of HP and crit

[lyric cargo]

almost as good as hp% main stat and no substats

[frozen sun]

which one for aggravate yae (no external em buffs except widsith when it procs its passive.

[opal surge]

I would pull for albedo

[crude lake]

hi, how much recharge do i need with shogun with engulfing lightning?

[rugged sparrow]

with r1 you'd want 270 ER iirc

[crude lake]

is going over ok?

or not worth it

[rugged sparrow]

not recommended but if you don't really have better artis sure ig

[warped oracle]

it's fine but it's a sign that your artifact rolls might be weak

[crude lake]

this what i got

[warped oracle]

looking good

[crude lake]

72.9 Electro dmg bonus

[warped oracle]

ER could definitely be knocked down through better artifacts

[crude lake]

alrighty

[unkempt river]

^

[warped oracle]

yelan skill then burst > xinqiu burst then skill > bennett burst then skill > Xiangling burst

[unkempt river]

and NA with who?

Huh, I always when with benny and xl first so that Yelans 2 E both Vaped for 36k ish

[warped oracle]

xiangling? like it's not gonna matter to much without bennett c6

your team overall lacks a driver

[jolly junco]

probably the left build, you can check the genshin optimizer though

[warped oracle]

I would say xiangling because she has fine NAs and unlike the others she can provide a little value as a driver with c2

[hidden zinc]

Predicament want yoimiya but raiden would help my account more

[unkempt river]

I said which cons they have. And I wrote that I do have C6...

[jolly junco]

just pull yoimiya then

[haughty hawk]

[hidden zinc]

🙂

[jolly junco]

the game isn't that difficult, you don't need to use/pull for the strongest units to clear content

[hidden zinc]

Ik

[opal surge]

I still feel like raiden is lowkey not even that useful anymore anyways

[haughty hawk]

shes beutiful

[jolly junco]

I disagree, I think she's good and pretty flexible teamwise, though not one of the most useful 5*s

[opal surge]

Oh I dont think shes bad, I just never felt like "oh I wish I had raiden" when making random teams, but to be fair I dont have that many units to begin with so perhaps I just dont have the units that really want raiden

[keen willow]

The only unit i would like having rn is furina

[near prism]

thats because raiden isnt someone you incorporate in a team, you build the team around her

that doesnt mean she isnt flexible

[keen willow]

Everything else is just taste

[warped oracle]

To some degree that’s true, but I definitely feel like sometimes Raiden is more a character that completes a team like with Rational or when paired with Eula

[near prism]

maybe?? although even in those teams the entire way you build your characters is centered around raiden's flat energy regen

[warped oracle]

True, but also that’s something you should be considering for most teams

[near prism]

ultimately she's the character that affects your team in the biggest way in these teams

[warped oracle]

Like sucrose and nahida’s em buffs, or kazuha’s buffs

[near prism]

uh..yes

thats why i said that you build around raiden

instead of slotting her in

[nova swift]

Not as amazing as you

[unkempt river]

But not as kindhearted as you!

Rotation?

[lyric cargo]

Raiden s -> Yelan bs -> Ben bs -> Xl bs -> Raiden b

yelan sb is also possible

(s = skill, b = burst)

[unkempt river]

EQE?

or EEQ

[lyric cargo]

c1? I see

[unkempt river]

Benny C6, XL C1, Yelan C1

[lyric cargo]

sbs or bss I suppose

using one skill before the burst wastes less time catching particles

[unkempt river]

mhm

[lyric cargo]

but her skill deals some bonus damage while her burst is active iirc, that's why I mentioned bss

[unkempt river]

ah, hmm

[lyric cargo]

I assume sbs would be preferred by most

[unkempt river]

how much buff?

This?

[lyric cargo]

namely, her skill triggers an instance of her burst damage that's separate from normal attacks

[unkempt river]

ahh yea, noticed that

[lyric cargo]

this won't be stacked yet

[unkempt river]

yep

[lyric cargo]

Bennett uses his skill before switching to Xiangling so she can catch his particles (funneling)

Xiangling uses her burst right away so she can precharge her burst for the next rotation (prefunneling)

oh, and you'll want to use another bennett skill after the rotation to funnel Xiangling more

[unkempt river]

hmm alrighty

thanks!

[amber veldt]

Would Raiden, Sara, Xiangling, Chevreuse be decent ?

Probably be better off just using Bennett over Chevreuse still huh?

[haughty lotus]

Bennett instead of Sara/chevreuse

If Sara isn’t c6 you don’t have to bother

[amber veldt]

All of them except Raiden are C6

[jolly junco]

replace sara with benny

[amber veldt]

🥲

Even if I have EL?

[jolly junco]

what con is your raiden

[amber veldt]

C0

[jolly junco]

you pulled on the raiden banner?

c6 chev with c0 raiden

[amber veldt]

I had Raiden and pulled on the banner for Chev

[jolly junco]

you can just use raiden, bennett, xiangling, chev

good this abyss at least

[nova swift]

Not as decent as you

[amber veldt]

[lyric magnet]

how important is pulling for 5* weapons?

[jolly junco]

well it's never necessary, but some characters/teams do see a sizable damage increase from certain 5* weapons

[lyric magnet]

does raiden benefit a lot from her 5*?

im using some random prototype weapon or something on her at the moment but thought getting the 5* weapon might be worth

[jolly junco]

it's about a 14% personal damage increase over Catch R5 (free obtainable wep from fishing) when its performance is averaged across a bunch of different scenarios. Which for a signature 5* weapon is not that impressive

[lyric magnet]

I’m just not sure if it’s ever worth going for weapon over more constellation

ah yeah I guess for raiden more constellation would be better then

[jolly junco]

her c2/c3 would be

[lyric magnet]

are there any notable characters that benefit a lot from their weapon?

[jolly junco]

nilou sees the biggest team dps increase i think

from getting Key

[near prism]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-sumeru-genshin-impact-tighnari-tighnari-gif-26502622

[jolly junco]

Neuv's sig is close to 40% better than prototype amber (best non-gacha and non-bp weapon for him)

40% personal increase

[lyric magnet]

daymn 40%

[jolly junco]

considering he makes up a large portion of his teams dps it is quite significant ye

[real wasp]

Hello guys, I have rolled on weapon banner for Raiden weapon and didn't get it

But I got 2 5* weapons how does that exchange work

[jolly junco]

check the banner details

[real wasp]

I mean how many rolls I need to do the epitomized path

[jolly junco]

right now or assuming you start from nothing?

[real wasp]

How many 5* weapon I mean sorry

[amber veldt]

After you lose twice the third is 100%

[real wasp]

Thanks

[jolly junco]

well it can take up to 3 5* weapons to get the weapon you chart for ( the 3rd 5*)

[spring karma]

What’s a better crit ratio for raiden (both 260 er) 175 cd 50 cr or 132 cd 64 cr

[haughty lotus]

always balance your builds around a 1:2 ratio, including things like the catch passive

[worthy siren]

can you still trigger favonious sword passive if the character equiping it is doing off field damage?

[native summit]

no

[lyric cargo]

calculate your average crit multiplier: 1 + cr * cd
1 + 0.5 * 1.75 = 1.875
1 + 0.64 * 1.32 = 1.845

[spring karma]

Ok for sure thanks 🙏🏻

[midnight hull]

how many exp books does it take to get a character to level 90?

[lyric cargo]

around 400.

check here for the exact number: https://genshin-center.com/planner

419 apparently

[midnight hull]

ty

[lyric cargo]

oh, and like memesicles said you have to take into account all buffs. like the weapon passive from r5 the catch, 12% crit rate

[spring karma]

Yh it’s 419 books with like 3.3 mil mora lvl 1-90

Wait no it’s a bit less than 3.3 mil

[lyric cargo]

says 2.1m for me, though you'll want to level talents as well

[steady shuttle]

Is raiden still top tier character?

[haughty lotus]

she never was

if you like her there isnt a downside to pulling her, she's still good

[haughty hawk]

NUTS?!?!?

[haughty lotus]

hi

[haughty hawk]

heyyyy

[vagrant kayak]

this good 4 navia?

[haughty lotus]

not bad

[haughty lotus]

Loid*

[hearty pilot]

whats the rotation for raiden sara chevreuse and bennet

[haughty lotus]

Raiden E > Chevreuse Q hE (only first rotation) > Bennett QE > Sara QE > Raiden Q
you are better off using xiangling instead of sara tho, the rotation stays the same just switch her with sara

[hearty pilot]

okaytahsnk\

[pliant ether]

which of these two is more valuable on furina? or is the difference negligible

[haughty lotus]

probably the first, it's close enough that it doesnt matter tho

[pliant ether]

got it, thanks

[slate ingot]

Weapon to use on Chevreuse?

[haughty lotus]

favge, rightful reward is usable at c6

[slate ingot]

Fav lance?

[native summit]

yes

[swift crown]

haii :3

[haughty hawk]

[amber veldt]

Do you need YunJin for Yoimiya or could I just do like Yoimiya, Yelan, Zhongli, Bennett?

[opal surge]

completely fine

[haughty lotus]

she's only slightly better than bennett at c6

[opal surge]

Probably better even unless high con YunJin

[quaint fern]

Major benefit is being able to use Benny elsewhere

You know. Because he's glued to xiangling most of the time

[amber veldt]

I don't use him as much

[haughty lotus]

||or bench yomia and just use xiangling||

[amber veldt]

If anything I probably have Zhongli in more teams tbh

[amber veldt]

I don't have Yoimiya yet, I just want more cons for Chevreuse and would rather get a new unit than Raiden C1

[quaint fern]

Raiden c1 puts you in a good position to c2 her next run

[amber veldt]

I guess

I do use her a lot too

welp

I got a Chev con

Unfortunately I got C3 for my level 20 Mona as well

[limpid ibex]

With homa is it better to run ATK sands or HP sands for a hybrid build?

Switching off to an ATK sands would put me on 2pc ATK, 2pc ATK tho, and I'm really close to having a full Song of Days Past set

[haughty lotus]

her damage is non existent at c0

[limpid ibex]

It isn't particularly high at any constellation iirc

[haughty lotus]

its ok at c4

[mortal sparrow]

electro version of bennet??

[opal surge]

I dont see how this has anything to do with bennet

[mortal sparrow]

bennet is the best support for pyro
i said bennet as a joke/meme
would saras c6 be a good support for electro and be op like bennet too?

[haughty lotus]

she's basically only used in raiden teams at c6... with bennett lol
the only one without bennett that's actually good is raiden yae kazuha sara but no healer

[opal surge]

what about chevvy instead of kazuha for role consolidation

[reef comet]

A non-monoelectro monoelectro team

[native summit]

i hope clorinde comes out and is able to work with sara very well..

[steady shuttle]

Should I go navia/zhongli/fishl/bennet or navia/ning/furina/koko

[native summit]

but only time will tell.

[opal surge]

Are these two teams locked...?

You could just do Navia furina ZL Bennet since you seemingly have all the pieces

But if it has to be one of the variants you mentioned then I would go the first one

[haughty lotus]

navia zhongli bennett fischl/furina/xiangling

[fallen topaz]

Who do I build and what teams could I run for floor 12?

[gilded timber]

Everything is easy expect for the hydro monster in the last chamber

Can someone give me some advice on how to beat it?

My team is Raiden, Nahida, Yelan, and Zhongli

My other team is Hu Tao, Kazuha, Xingqiu, and Thoma

Raiden team is what I use to beat it

Hydro Tulpa

Sorry I forgot it's name

[reef comet]

Replace Nahida and Zhongli with Bennett and Xiangling

Build raiden with crit

[stable panther]

is the new healing set worth using?

[quaint fern]

I personally wouldn't run national for tulpa

that's just asking to get vaped

[reef comet]

It's your opinion, and who asked

[quaint fern]

[rugged sparrow]

you can dodge most of its attacks though, they're telegraphed asf

[tawny vigil]

do we only get 300 primos from lost riches?

[shadow lynx]

I think so

[rugged sparrow]

are you not counting the chest primos

[tawny vigil]

ya thats why thx

[native summit]

i cant lie
it can work for chev but i would never recommend farming that set for her specifically

just use it if you have the pieces

[quaint fern]

*use if you're farming for navia

[native summit]

this too

[strange scarab]

*use clam

[haughty lotus]

*if farming for itto

[stable panther]

i don't want to go to that domain and only get fucking itto pieces lmfao

[strange scarab]

*use balls

[stable panther]

i'm already farming for navia so i might as well use the new set

[strange scarab]

Orrr strongbox them for something else

[quaint fern]

use tenacity

*if farming for eula

[sick quarry]

What would her optimal crit rate be?

[haughty lotus]

1:2 ratio, for example like 60:120, 65:130, 70:140

include the catch passive 12 crit rate if you are using the catch

[sick quarry]

Im using EL

[haughty lotus]

thats also too much ER

unless you used your burst to activate EL then took a picture

[strange scarab]

Good lord 308 ER

Are you building a power plant

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976

[sick quarry]

My artifacts are pretty bad in terms of values lol

Im coping so hard with how bad my emblem artifacts are

[past plaza]

what weapon would be good on xiangling?

[rugged sparrow]

Catch

[past plaza]

[rugged sparrow]

Wavebreaker/Dragon's Bane are usable too but why is Dragon's Bane on Yun Jin