📌gimshim-help

[haughty hawk]

[haughty lotus]

Can you just yelange and not need another ATK sands?

[dusty cape]

I’ll still need to get one at some point just in case but

at least I didn’t use yae goblet

[haughty lotus]

[dusty cape]

ig my skyward is getting some action too

[haughty lotus]

?

[dusty cape]

I don’t want to farm an er sands for OPPA so she gets to keep the catch

[jolly junco]

you know what the tulpa in abyss means don't you

it is another abyss for xiangling

[quaint fern]

I have to reoptimize my ayaka for this abyss 😔

[earnest canyon]

[nova swift]

Not as nice as you

[reef comet]

New abyss 🤤

[dusty cape]

[violet cipher]

I'm trying to consider what I should farm atm, it's getting to the point where the best thing I think I could farm is Nobless domain, tenacity domain or weapons. It's going to be hell showing everything so is anyone willing to go to a vc room so I can stream my account so we could make a list of what I could farm for?

[lyric cargo]

you need Bloodstained Chivalry/Pale Flame?

my personal default would still be farming a domain I can't strongbox (like MH/GT, DM/GD, depending on which of them you need)

but so long as both sets from a domain are useful, it's resin efficient

and focus on two teams until you can reliably clear abyss

so prioritize domains and strongboxes that let you build two good teams quickly

[violet cipher]

I absolutely do not need Bloodstained (I mean I could for Eula but I already got a good set for her...and don't use her) but there isn't much else I need.
I could farm weapon material for Childe's Amos bow but I don't really use Childe too often.
Again, my problem is that I don't know what I need that I can't strongbox. For example, I know I need more Nobless artifacts for ShenHe but it doesn't feel cost-effective to farm that domain. At the least, I could get Flower of Paradise Lose for my Nilou but I don't have Scara and already have 2 sets for HP buffs already.
I've been clearing abyss pretty reliably, it's been close but I've 36 starred abyss very frequently, so I don't actually have to worry about that.

Actually, I've been using Tenacity on Koko but I sometimes do Koko/Furina/Yelan/Kaz instead of stuff like Ayaka or Nilou; does the Koko in the 1st team use a different set/amount of artifacts or no?

[haughty lotus]

Send enka cards for the characters you use the most

[shrewd garden]

Can anyone tell when to use 2pc 2pc vs 4pc?
Are 4pc overrated?

[warped oracle]

Depends on the character and situation, there is literally no way to give you a overall answer

[shrewd garden]

Generally are 2pc viable or no?

[spring karma]

How do I build Sara? What sub stats, what goblet, sands

[warped oracle]

Give a character

[shrewd garden]

Like tighnari?

Am using him 2pc

[shrewd garden]

Not sure but ER/DMG/Crit along with High base weapon

[warped oracle]

First you want to give Sara your highest base attack weapon. Then give her 4pc emblem with Er sands, Electro goblet and crit circuit. Aim for er, Atk and crit substats

Level talent then burst

[warped oracle]

Tighnari wants 4pc deepwood or 4pc gilded ideally

[shrewd garden]

I see.
I am using 2pc marchauesse + wanderer so there is more dps potential?

[warped oracle]

Probably not

[shrewd garden]

😭

[spring karma]

I’m gunna be using her as a sub dps next to raiden, can I use fav bow?

[warped oracle]

Unless you’ve already got a 4pc deepwood in the party, but even then gilded is still better

[warped oracle]

No, fav is shit for her

[shrewd garden]

Yes deepwood user is there

[haughty lotus]

4pc gilded or wanderers then

[shrewd garden]

Yeah ill try wanderer

[spring karma]

Also 1 more question, can I use raiden with attack goblet? I have a good electro goblet but I’m afraid I won’t have enough attack

[haughty lotus]

Depends on substats

Use optimizer

[quaint fern]

"Just use optimizer™️"

[spring karma]

How do I use that, sorry I’ve never done it

[quaint fern]

They show you how to do it

[haughty lotus]

unlike ER, damage stats don't have a clear breakpoint for "how much attack or crit do I need" or "is this good enough". The best advice is to keep grinding until you have a decent amount of substats on your pieces and then use the Optimizer (https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/)

There are guides on this website

[spring karma]

Ok thanks

[warped oracle]

Just know that while Sara has great personal damage you really just need to get a solid weapon and high skill level for all her buffs, those should be your focus and ER

You can fully sit down and grind amazing gear for her (and you can also give her raiden pieces when you get new artifacts) or you could just slap some ok pieces and nobody will judge you

Just make sure she’s c6, or don’t bother with any of this

[shrewd garden]

Widsith vs Sac frag for Nahida? Whats better for off field dps?

Both are R5*

[warped oracle]

Sac

[shrewd garden]

Oh ok thanks

[quaint fern]

Does anyone have 1k em yet?

Both are viable

[nova swift]

Not as viable as you

[quaint fern]

Usually nahida's personal damage is not unsignificant so widsith is competitive with sac frags

But depends on team

[haughty lotus]

Use optimizer

[quaint fern]

For something like burnmelt you 100% want to max her em share

[shrewd garden]

I am just waiting for archon reruns😭

Have farmed everything for raiden and now asking things for Nahida

[warped oracle]

The explanation I understand is that Widsith is great for on-field, while sac is great for off

[shrewd garden]

Is widsith 10sec passive even enough?

[quaint fern]

It's quite hard to test for tbh

[shrewd garden]

It has 66% downtime

[quaint fern]

Widsith only pops every other rotation

[warped oracle]

But it’s buffs are insane

And the weapons stats are… good

[quaint fern]

Then you'd have to keep track of two optimizer profiles as well as make sure you have custom multi targets

• Nahida's own damage is quite variable depending on # of enemies

Too many variables

[shrewd garden]

Wait Nahida E doesnt work like raiden?

[warped oracle]

Wdym, I don’t recall any interactions that don’t function between the two

[strong shale]

What keybind do i use for switching to walk? I have it on h (with other things being mostly normal) but parts like sorush are killing me whenever i have to go up and move forwards

[quaint fern]

Usually it's control

Or are you talking about run/sprint

That's shift

[strong shale]

What do i have on control thats so important i would change walk

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strong shale]

I changed it to numpad 9 at one point because there was no use for it

But now, diving and sorush

Also, are pari or aranara better? (just asking for opinions)

[spring karma]

I won’t be able to get c6 this time for her, I was gunna run raiden, Sara, bennet, Venti, is There anyone who would be better until I get a properly built Sara with c6?

[warped oracle]

Lisa with TTSD

[spring karma]

I have xingqui fully built, can I use him

[spring karma]

Ooo yes I wanted to use Lisa for a long time

[warped oracle]

Don’t even need to build her

[spring karma]

But never really had the opportunity so I’ll give it a Go

[warped oracle]

Oh wait you need to level her up

[spring karma]

Yep, I have good pieces for emblem. Can she use them?

Is it pretty much the buff from thrilling tales that I’m using her for?

So I don’t need to put effort into her that much

[warped oracle]

You really don’t need to bother with Lisa

You’re only using her for defence shred and TTDS Atk buff

[spring karma]

Ok good, is lvl 70 ok?

[warped oracle]

Far less investment, just was much damage

Once you get c6 sara then use her

[warped oracle]

I think so, you’re looking for her 4th ascension passive

[spring karma]

For sure, thanks for the help

[opal surge]

is keqing aggravate pretty much locked to fischl or can I do with lisa as well?

[spring karma]

I have little wishes for raiden, I’m guaranteed for her so I’ll hope for at least a copy or two of Sara then when re run I’ll get raiden c2 and Sara c6, only because I’ve had little time to invest because I lost my 50/50 for Furina so my whole vision for my account has changed

[olive isle]

you can do lisa, fischl just contributes a lot of off field dmg for the team

[warped oracle]

And battery

[warped oracle]

Hey, maybe you’ll get lucky and get c6 sara

I’m praying for you

[reef comet]

Maybe

surely

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

?

[reef comet]

nah

[dusty cape]

whele

[olive isle]

🚭

[reef comet]

it was easier than last abyss

[swift crown]

im too lazy to do f9-11

[reef comet]

just do it in 3 minutes

@dusty cape stop. i demand you.

deeznut

[dusty cape]

in ur mouth

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/915180263003267094/1074463811479797780/885845523335090277.gif

[swift crown]

what are the enemies in f12

[reef comet]

rocks and hydro

you have navia so it's should be fine 2nd half

first half wants something that is not hydro

[dusty cape]

yomia deeznut

[reef comet]

the neat thing is yomia can't outpower hutao

[dusty cape]

the neat thing is I don’t have hutaodeeznut

[reef comet]

neuv when

[dusty cape]

when it’s convienyaenop

will I get raiden?

[reef comet]

maybe, surely

[dusty cape]

[reef comet]

mwah

[dusty cape]

[swift crown]

you are forgetting the fact that my navia has no artifacts at all

[reef comet]

use 2p2p

only 10% worse

surely it's not 100000 dmg

[swift crown]

[reef comet]

navia doing navillion dmg

[haughty hawk]

miau

[charred junco]

Does world level influence spiral Abyss?

[reef comet]

no

but your skill influence it

[charred junco]

I don't have any of that

[quaint fern]

Just use zhongli

[charred junco]

I do have that...

[quaint fern]

Zhongli made me worse at genshin impact 💯

[reef comet]

have you ever good at genshin

[dusty cape]

no, and I never will be

[strange scarab]

[olive isle]

i really have to build noelle for this

[sweet glen]

Cwn someone pass me the link where i can see all the best builds

[sweet glen]

Hold E

[quaint fern]

Technically https://akasha.cv

However, the assumption sometimes are weird

[reef comet]

:twigballs:

[olive isle]

hear me out, noelle gorou furina charlotte

[dusty cape]

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-5920695394641505768

[dusty cape]

qoocing

[olive isle]

for 3 years, i never have a proper geo dps

[dusty cape]

me either

[slate ingot]

Any clue what gaming ascension mats are?

[rugged sparrow]

not officially known

[spring karma]

Which sword for bennet in raiden team, fav sword, sac sword or prototype rancour?

I was thinking rancour since benny scales off his base attack and it has so much on it for a 4 star

[rugged sparrow]

correct
another alternative is Sapwood since it has ER sub

[spring karma]

Yh only downside to rancour is sub

[reef comet]

where alley flash

[rugged sparrow]

silence, devil

[reef comet]

navia solo 2nd half when

[rugged sparrow]

no u

[haughty hawk]

meow

[reef comet]

ayato carried 1st half (rel)

[spring karma]

Who can use this

[reef comet]

offpiece or 2p2p or yoimiya

[spring karma]

Ok for sure

Nearly 40 cv, defence is sad though

[olive isle]

nvm i don’t need geo

[haughty lotus]

[dusty cape]

this one’s got your name on it

[haughty lotus]

A proper send off

[olive isle]

an umbrella warfare i guess

[quaint fern]

This one's got your name on it

[gilded timber]

I can't get all 3 stars in floor 12 chamber 3 because of the fucking 2 Pyro abyss things

Does anyone have any tips? I'm using Ayato, Kazuha, Fischl, and Bennett

[frozen sun]

team for floor 12 abyss, give suggestions regardless of lvl pls

[swift crown]

the hydro tulpa wrecked my raiden

[haughty hawk]

happy new year jen help

[umbral sedge]

Happi new year jen help, may the chat continue the tradition of being sillygoofy.

[haughty lotus]

[spring karma]

Happy new year jen help

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/2019-happy-new-year2019-happy-new-year-greetings-gif-13178436

[haughty lotus]

Happy 202 everyone

[reef comet]

i only use 3 characters

[swift crown]

i can't do this

[haughty lotus]

She’s c2 smg

[swift crown]

she kept getting 1 shotted

[haughty lotus]

Dongli

[swift crown]

he's on second half 😔

[haughty lotus]

[swift crown]

i only had 2

[rugged sparrow]

just don't get one shot 😔

[swift crown]

😔 im suffering from zhongli syndrome

aka skill issue

[reef comet]

silly raiden hypercarry

[swift crown]

raiden hyper without the kazuha

[noble belfry]

Abyss team for 9,10,11

@sour birch

@haughty hawk

[haughty hawk]

???

[haughty lotus]

Seriously?

[dusty cape]

[noble belfry]

[honest heart]

guys how is this team
ganyu freeze with ganyu furina kokomi and kazuha

[noble belfry]

What

[haughty lotus]

Bad, replace kok with charlotte

[dusty cape]

happy new year

[haughty hawk]

why was i pinged

[haughty lotus]

Don’t start pinging random people just because you have a question

[haughty hawk]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!

[noble belfry]

Teams for abyss

[sour birch]

i've been summoned

[haughty hawk]

brotha idk

[honest heart]

i ment isnt hydro application less

[noble belfry]

Okay

[sour birch]

figure it out those floors are easy as fuck

[dusty cape]

[sour birch]

floor 12 is when stuff matters

[noble belfry]

I didnt ping you

And i know them they arent random

[sour birch]

you can do solo lyney one side solo furina other side

those floors are light work

[haughty hawk]

i do not know u like that

[sour birch]

just do whatever

[honest heart]

facts

[sour birch]

real

[haughty hawk]

[noble belfry]

?

[sour birch]

it is also 1am in this time zone right now

[haughty lotus]

No, Furina is enough. And you need a second cryo for ganyus energy problems and a teamwide healer. Kok is teamwide but freeze doesn’t allow her time to go onfield

[dusty cape]

[sour birch]

happy new year i guess

[haughty hawk]

omg same

[noble belfry]

I see sorry

For pings

[haughty lotus]

omg same

[sour birch]

or thanksgiving of fourth of july or something idk

[honest heart]

ic ok then time to level up her also

[haughty hawk]

lets kiss

[dusty cape]

woah

[haughty lotus]

Sure

[noble belfry]

Wait you are memesicles

[haughty lotus]

Who?

[noble belfry]

I searched for you too

[haughty lotus]

I knew it

[noble belfry]

But i didnt get it so i pinged them

[haughty hawk]

[noble belfry]

Whats with your pfp

[haughty lotus]

4

[noble belfry]

Yes

[dusty cape]

[noble belfry]

Okay then

[haughty hawk]

Four

[haughty lotus]

Skate

[noble belfry]

i never did solo abyss

Lets try

[noble belfry]

[honest heart]

best weapon 4 star for charolet

[noble belfry]

[noble belfry]

And what does this mean?

[small blade]

Prototype amber or favge

[haughty hawk]

it means what i said

[honest heart]

and for ganyu freeze proto or hamay

[haughty lotus]

I know you like that 😏

[small blade]

Proto

[honest heart]

ok

[haughty hawk]

😏

[noble belfry]

Uhhh i didnt get it but ok

[noble belfry]

Dam that emoji

[haughty hawk]

whats difficult to understand

i mean what i say and i say what i mean

[honest heart]

also i need a 4th member for my hutao team,
currently its hutao xq and jhongli

i used to use dehya but its pretty useles

is xl the only option?

[neon harness]

no yellers?

[haughty lotus]

Yelen

[honest heart]

no i dont ahve

[neon harness]

yelers

[haughty lotus]

Or play the superior team, vv vape

[haughty hawk]

yelers

[haughty lotus]

Yalen

[neon harness]

hutao c6 xq anemo benny/amber/thoma rel

yelers>

[haughty lotus]

/dehya

[neon harness]

/balls

[haughty lotus]

/you 😏

[neon harness]

/

[haughty hawk]

am i interrupting

[honest heart]

bruh

[dusty cape]

yelan or cope

[neon harness]

nah

[lusty tinsel]

Hi guys, i am doing raiden's story...stuck at the help baal take a photo...cant get the right angle

nm..restarted game and it worked

[umbral sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creator-mayonags-tyler-the-creator-mayonags-gif-21031972

..

[spring karma]

Raiden with catch, attack goblet or electro

[rugged sparrow]

depends™️

[spring karma]

Well if I use my attack goblet I’ll have more cd

[rugged sparrow]

using optimizer should give you the best answer

[noble belfry]

that veg chicken on 11-3 is killing me

Even lyney cant stand it it always jumps

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-cat-kitty-tears-gif-24106422

I dont have geo team for crystals

[rugged sparrow]

u dont need crystallize though?

you have a lot of strong team options, just try each of them until one succeeds

[noble belfry]

I tried ayaka freeze

Lyney mono pyro

Haitham bloom

I only have these 3 strong teams

[rugged sparrow]

so what seems to be the issue

do you not have enough DPS

[honest heart]

les go

for the first time i used my noelle in abys and 9 stared it

not floor 12, 11

i cant do floor 12 no matter what

[noble belfry]

May be i dont have good shielder they die

[noble belfry]

F2p right?

[rugged sparrow]

you don't need a shielder to survive though

[honest heart]

hmmm no but this is her build

before that how is this navia

🗿

WAIT WHAT

NO WHAY

CAP

I DIDNT HAVE NOELLES GOBLET EQUIPED

BROOO

[lusty tinsel]

Hi, I am thinking of getting the pass for the weapon. Would the polearm be a good choice? as my raiden doesnt have a good weap as I mainly use her for HB

[honest heart]

bro jsut farm the catch

[lusty tinsel]

my main team is kokomi/zhongli/raiden/nahida.

[honest heart]

why are u even bothered

[lusty tinsel]

but the catch doesnt hv EM no?

[honest heart]

get em in artifacts then

[lusty tinsel]

i ll prob get the catch for xiangling later for 2nd team

[honest heart]

or go moon peircer or somthing

sumeru craftable weapon

i think

[rugged sparrow]

Kitain is literally free to craft and only 5 EM short at max enhancement

[honest heart]

and this as well

[rugged sparrow]

compared to Ballad of Fjords

well, 10 EM short but point still stands

[lusty tinsel]

ahh ok. What other choice would be best for my acct then?

[rugged sparrow]

what DPSes you mainly use though

[reef comet]

lol

[rugged sparrow]

Navia can get a fat upgrade from Serpent Spine

but UOMMS is fine too

[reef comet]

bro choose to use a shittier team than rational, can't believe it

[honest heart]

all archon aexcept venti

nice

[rugged sparrow]

also have you taken a look here: https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds @lusty tinsel

cuz some of your chars have... questionable weapon matchings

[lusty tinsel]

ah yes, I got that site yesterday

I dont hv most of the weaps listed :3

[rugged sparrow]

...?

[lusty tinsel]

and the mage catalyst is still kinda confusing to me

[rugged sparrow]

do you just say this without reading or

[lusty tinsel]

Zhongli - tassel as listed. Kokomi - amber raiden switching to kitain as suggested ealier. nahida - magic guide? thats what is on that guide?

unless i read it wrong

[rugged sparrow]

you have Widsith for Nahida

[honest heart]

widsith nahida godly

[lusty tinsel]

sec. lemme change my language back..i m playing in a diff language

huh? on my pic above it is magic guide and same on my game

[rugged sparrow]

...

[lusty tinsel]

bottom left?

thats nahida right?

[reef comet]

lol

[lusty tinsel]

i m confused

[rugged sparrow]

check Nahida's rankings again

unless you want to gimp your Nahida then by all means ig

[lusty tinsel]

OH u mean USE it. sorry my bad.

[rugged sparrow]

I mean that's what I said since the beginning

[lusty tinsel]

yeah I asked that yesterday when u linked me the google doc. still farming to upgrade it. only lv 40 so I am using lv 70 weap for now

or is it still better at lv 40?

[rugged sparrow]

specifically for the hyperbloom team? I'm sure it's better

[lusty tinsel]

coolcool tyvm

[reef comet]

i don't even know ayaka freeze rotation

diona e kazuha e q mona e q ayaka whatever the fuck or something, ye, idk how you struggle f11, it's a free floor

[rugged sparrow]

dont even known ayaka freeze rot
lists down a proper ayaka freeze rot

goofy ah devil

[reef comet]

you know, this game is easy, just spam e q and everything dies

[rugged sparrow]

real

now do f12

[reef comet]

i did

[umbral sedge]

[rugged sparrow]

can't monogeo Itto bottom half

[reef comet]

with ayaka? should be relatively easier than using 3 mf to fight tulpa

[reef comet]

i like how klee in every abyss you fight

[rugged sparrow]

I just feel like playing Klee this rot

[reef comet]

and she isn't even c2 ||with ttds||

[rugged sparrow]

surely this major patch

[reef comet]

gib ayaya rotation

[rugged sparrow]

coincidentally just started playing Kaeya hangout quest and got to this

[haughty lotus]

[reef comet]

bro failed klee for not having done all the quests with klee involved

[rugged sparrow]

I don't do the quest cuz Kaeya mainly 😔

[reef comet]

woah

@haughty lotus send nuke to this dude's klee

[haughty lotus]

Balls slander?

[umbral sedge]

diona e kazuha e q mona e q ayaka whatever the fuck or something

[reef comet]

true

[haughty lotus]

Language.

[rugged sparrow]

fuck

[umbral sedge]

fuck

[haughty lotus]

Oh moderators

[rugged sparrow]

what are they gonna do, un-fuck me? 😔

[umbral sedge]

[haughty lotus]

📸

[reef comet]

jerry is above saving

[white lantern]

Is this decent enough or should I get more hp

Solo water team

[rugged sparrow]

if solo hydro then she'd need a lot more ER

[reef comet]

more hp

[haughty trail]

which flower for ganyu

[honest heart]

my first blizard slayer artifact

[haughty trail]

omg

[reef comet]

possibly right, but the only good way to know is optimizer

[honest heart]

its probably gonna go in hp

[haughty trail]

whats that

[reef comet]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/

[white lantern]

Shit, like 200?

[honest heart]

called it

i hate taht hp

35cv so ig oke ish

[haughty trail]

is this decent

[rugged sparrow]

a lot more afaik

pretty sure it's somewhere in the 220-250% range for solo hydro Furina
but just to be safe, run it in ERC

[reef comet]

which piece is it

[haughty trail]

right flower

[reef comet]

you want more crit rate, but it's fine

[haughty trail]

like 40?

[umbral sedge]

HOLYYYYYYY

[haughty trail]

LMAO

32 cv both piece

[umbral sedge]

that cr is fine for freezeyu
30-45 range

[haughty trail]

ohh okay

[reef comet]

35-45

[haughty trail]

should i level her burst

[haughty trail]

im at 34 might as well

[reef comet]

her main dmg in freeze is burst anyway

[haughty trail]

give me the credit

[reef comet]

ayaka is so mid tbh, can't even beat first half

[neon harness]

Not as first half as u

[reef comet]

use "mid", ty

[neon harness]

Not as Ty as u

[haughty hawk]

ur not mid pookie wookie

[reef comet]

thank you

[haughty hawk]

erm

[reef comet]

❓

[true storm]

Whats the best team comps for floor 12?

[reef comet]

no hydro character first half
1 geo character 2nd half

[honest heart]

first half have 1 hydro if u use hutao/yomiya/any vape dps

one more year

i will be able to finish floor 12

trust

[earnest canyon]

shouldve said that before new years

[honest heart]

there is a reason im saying it now and not yesterday

[copper mist]

Abyss

[reef comet]

yomia vs tulpa

[copper mist]

Yup

Will be fun

[reef comet]

solo

[copper mist]

Yeah I can probably do that

Never think about it because I almost always use a shielder cuz I run Bolide 90% of the time

[reef comet]

zhongli ruined everyone's life

but zhongli ruined both this human's life and yomia's life

[haughty trail]

2024 still no onset goblet

[olive isle]

zhongli is the pinnacle of what makes everyone reduce their reaction time.

[true storm]

Guys how did you beat the hydro tulpa in floor 12 its gotta be the most tanky boss in abyss

I tried an ayaka hutao team and didnt do no dmg

My Navia furina had the best chance but could only kill it around 7:20

[opal surge]

furina against tulpa seems sus

[jolly junco]

I used navia, zhongli, bennett, xiangling and it died in less than 2 team rotations

[opal surge]

Its XL abyss

[true storm]

My Navia only has MH artis sooo I can only use her with furi lol

The second half I can easily clear with wanderer its the damn Tulpa thats so tanky

[opal surge]

if shes at 64 cr wtih MH its perfectly fine to run her without

its not optimal but it should clear

[jolly junco]

it has a lot of HP but it doesn't have a shield or invuln phases

[true storm]

Alright ill try a benny xiangling comp

W/ navia

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

[olive isle]

i’d do a spread team

i am really sick of xiangline

[reef comet]

oh no, not xiangline, i'm sick of xiangline

[reef comet]

yelan carried diluc

@sick quarry deeznut

[final void]

For the new event Xtreme Drive co-op game, can you do it with one other person in co-op or does it have to be 3....or can you not do it in co op at all

[reef comet]

it has to be coop

and 3 people

[strong shale]

Usually for coop events you can match up with others tho right?

Like randoms

[gray oxide]

Yes idk im a loner

Wazzup tavern

Huh is everyone dead

Oh wolly

Goodness me

[small blade]

[placid sparrow]

Which artifact would be better for Barbara? Maiden Beloved or Ocean hued? I'll use her as a healer in Furina and Ayaka freeze team.

[gray oxide]

Any is fine tbh

[placid sparrow]

I guess 4pc ocean hued provides dmg or something

[gray oxide]

She already heals sufficiently enough with either and Ocean Hued will get you 1 single instance of 30k followed by no dmg ticks

Yea

Altho its far from huge

[final void]

Heyy I mean can you do it with 3 people alrdy in your world OR do you HAVE TO match with people

[pulsar zinc]

for c6 fischl, is amos bow better than skyward harp, for on field fischl?

[cedar flint]

I doubt you will gain much buffs from normal attacks with Amos unless you plan to play charge attack fishL

[noble belfry]

Bennet and mona do is it bad or need more

Okay ill bring enka one

[elder bluff]

too much er

[ashen ferry]

hows my navia

[small blade]

What team are you usign her in?

[small blade]

Needs more work

[noble belfry]

Ayaka freeze

[ashen ferry]

true

[noble belfry]

Oh should i replace er sand?

Benney

[small blade]

Level her burst more, 80/90 her, use TTDS, Swap to tenacity 4pc if some else has noblesse (They should), Get more ER from substats

[small blade]

lvl weapon

[noble belfry]

Okay

I am loosing brain cells now

[small blade]

Mona and Bennett have very straight forward builds

[elder bluff]

use atk% sands and switch artifacts for more er substats

[jolly junco]

aside from talent levels use a different set for now

its not worth forcing 4pc whispers with bad artifacts

[cedar flint]

use something else until it’s time

[ashen ferry]

all my arts are all bad

[cedar flint]

even tho that’s my old navia

now she got the cuter picture

[jolly junco]

lots of 2pc mix options can work fine as placeholder sets, 4pc golden troupe works, 4pc marechaussee is good if using navia with furina

[stark sandal]

wait what's the site for this thingy

[jolly junco]

enka.network

[cedar flint]

enka

can also use Akasha

[ashen ferry]

thing is the pieces are all that doesn't help navia at all

[stark sandal]

can someone make me 2 teams that are rlly funny? (i've all 4 stars [ also jean c5 and mona c3, bennett is c6 ] )

[jolly junco]

ER where

[cedar flint]

she gets enough particles as of rn

but either way I’m still farming the set

[stark sandal]

this should be simpler

[jolly junco]

what makes a team "funny"?

[cedar flint]

u can play eternal melt with ganyu nahida and dehya

[stark sandal]

idk, just not a boring usual team such as xiangling bennett xq and raiden

[jolly junco]

what teams people enjoy is subjective

you either need to change the question or state your character preferences

[cedar flint]

btw c2 dehya fixes her e duration problem right?

[copper mist]

Tried to solo the Tulpa with Yoi, can do it but it takes me way over two minutes, and I couldn't even 3 star chamber 2 because Yoi takes too long killing the Ruin Guards lmao

[stark sandal]

alr, can someone name me some teams that many people call funny and op with the characters that i have?

[copper mist]

Maybe if I put one of my best teams second side... But even then lol

[jolly junco]

yes

[reef comet]

lol

[copper mist]

Not worth my time

[cedar flint]

well time to pull 3 dehya surely

did it with tighnari now can do with dehya

[copper mist]

Just have C3 Dehya

[stark sandal]

pls <3

[opal surge]

[reef comet]

neuv carried navia

[copper mist]

Neuvi

Cheating

[cedar flint]

honestly idk how you did this

[stark sandal]

i've put the heart, dont ignore me

[reef comet]

do dmg, and enemies die

[opal surge]

it was pretty easy ngl

[reef comet]

funny is subjective, ye

[cedar flint]

show navia build

[opal surge]

top half every clear is sub 1:30

but yeah second half is carrying still

[stark sandal]

then some teams that you guys find funny?

[copper mist]

Use Neuvi vs Tulpa

[cedar flint]

well make sense navia dps output is probably lower with just Benny

[jolly junco]

i was expecting the tulpa to be more difficult than it is, but it's just a big punchingbag with easily telegraphed attacks

[opal surge]

tulpa was by far the easiest to duo with navia

since free crystallize

[cedar flint]

I swear by the time I set up all the burst the bitch teleports to the other side of the map

[reef comet]

it's subjective so whatever teams that deal big dmg is fun for me

[stark sandal]

yeah, can you name some of them?

[median glade]

circle impact victim o7

[copper mist]

Where geo dmg

[opal surge]

the slowest chamber for navia to duo was second chamber

[cedar flint]

that’s why I don’t like Benny

[opal surge]

I dont own a single geo damage goblet

[cedar flint]

my abyss clears look like this tbf

[reef comet]

idk like eula team or neuv solo or navia team even, those are pretty fun for me, but it's still subjective, yes

[jolly junco]

what in the kuki

[stark sandal]

i dont have eula, i've sent the character list

[cedar flint]

healer kuki

for the win

[jolly junco]

if only you had a character on the team called bennett who already heals

[cedar flint]

well she buffs and electro as well so we cook

[cedar flint]

wish I could replace him

we need more buffers in the game

[jolly junco]

the extent of kuki's buffing is like, what, tenacity set and maybe weapon? excluding just being another EPCH character for navia's passive

[reef comet]

like ye, i've already mentioned my fun team, and you didn't fulfill any of them, so it's a subjective thing, yes (lol)

[copper mist]

I cleared with Yoi Zhongli and Talking Stick Dehya on second side

[opal surge]

i want to duo duo this abyss but idk how to do second half, neuv furina did fine chamber 1 and 3 but they cant break geo slimes 2nd chamber

[copper mist]

But tbf the Dehya team is with Furina

[opal surge]

[cedar flint]

and mobile crystalize machine

[reef comet]

the talkingshit oh no

[jolly junco]

may I introduce you to xiangling

[cedar flint]

I don’t want to use her

kuki is better

[reef comet]

everyone hates xiangling

[jolly junco]

use fischl then

or rosaria or yelan or furina

[cedar flint]

Besides one day I will replace Bennett with other support

[jolly junco]

or xingqiu

[cedar flint]

she is in the yae team

• kuki is pretty

[reef comet]

pretty mid, ye

[cedar flint]

you came up with the joke yourself or someone helped you?

[reef comet]

i told the joke for me, myself, thank you

[cedar flint]

either way the day we get another buffer I can use over Benny will be good

[reef comet]

c6 furina and c6 yelan, yes

[cedar flint]

both will be in mono kok

[lyric cargo]

if anyone sees the ultikiller14 graphic for the new abyss flying around, please tag me 🙂

[jolly junco]

he hasn't made one yet

there's a placeholder one here though, I do not know the source

[reef comet]

3 millions

[jolly junco]

yup

[reef comet]

a punching bag

[jolly junco]

it has no invuln phases or a shield so despite the large HP pool its pretty easy to deal with still

[reef comet]

the only hard stuff is when it suddenly changed the position and fucked up the burst, kekw

this abyss is much easier than last abyss, weirdly

[jolly junco]

yeah I think it's easier

not really sure what the "hardest" chamber is

might be 12:3 just due to the DPS requirement idk

[reef comet]

people who has no good geo character:

[jolly junco]

you don't need geo though

you don't even need blunt damage for the large geo slimes

zhongli makes it very fast though

[reef comet]

let me rephrase, people who use monogeo 2nd half:

[cedar flint]

this abyss is bad for me cus my main team is electro

[opal surge]

isnt that fine first half

[cedar flint]

first half I go with navia

can’t use navia against geo slimes

[reef comet]

use na

[opal surge]

shes a claymore

[cedar flint]

it will take too much time

[jolly junco]

the team they are using doesn't have a relevant source of non-geo damage

because they refuse to use a good character slot instead of kuki

[drifting adder]

anyone knows when yelan might rerun

[reef comet]

nah

[drifting adder]

ok next question. should i use hutao in floor 12 part 1 or part 2?

[jolly junco]

she should be fine either side tbh

[reef comet]

2nd is more comfortable for her, first has hydro tulpa so 2 hydro gonna be useless

[warped oracle]

She’s unlikely to rerun soon due to her recent rerun in 2.0 and her overall being low of the 5 star waiting list

[opal surge]

recent rerun in 2.0

[drifting adder]

my main teams are childe national and hutao xingqiu yelan zhongli

[reef comet]

like i said, yes

[drifting adder]

??????2.0?????????????????

[warped oracle]

Opps, meant 4.0

[jolly junco]

I'd just replace yelan with fischl then use hu tao first half

[drifting adder]

can i just put ayaka?

[jolly junco]

why though

[drifting adder]

melt

[reef comet]

does your ayaka deals 1 million dmg

[drifting adder]

i just got her wym

[jolly junco]

you can't even melt against tulpa

[drifting adder]

sadge

hutao burgeon? i got nahida

[reef comet]

ayaka dmg isn't good enough for tulpa, at c0

[jolly junco]

do you not have fischl built or something

[drifting adder]

yes

shes only lvl 20 lol

[jolly junco]

nahida is going to be bad until you get to tulpa

[drifting adder]

ill just run childe national first floor then

[jolly junco]

you could always use yelan for the first 2 chambers then use nahida for chamber 3 if you don't mind redoing

tulpa with childe national won't be good since it's hydro immune, you'll be relying on xiangling + bennett's damage to take out a 3m health enemy

[drifting adder]

n a kazuha

[jolly junco]

kazuha's damage will be insignificant

[drifting adder]

yea

[reef comet]

i mean, it works

[jolly junco]

it does work yeah

I just assume the people who ask for help with teams are the same people who lack the investment to pull that off

[reef comet]

:yozhe:

[drifting adder]

lack resin

[hot python]

is verdict viable on diluc? (im coping i lost 5050)

[elder bluff]

no

[hot python]

[jolly junco]

well yes it's viable on diluc

even if you can't take full advantage of the passive

[hot python]

20% atk not cope

[reef comet]

674 base atk 22.1 crit rate 20% atk, it's huge

[umbral sedge]

[reef comet]

[neon wave]

What quest is it?

[warped oracle]

Ha! Have fun with I think the biggest quest in the game that you can’t really pause

[opal surge]

ok thats kinda funny

[copper mist]

My favourite Pyro gyalls

That Dehya team do be cursed Ik

[haughty hawk]

meow

[copper mist]

Is that Clorinde

Who did that art

[haughty hawk]

yes

[haughty hawk]

ichigowarano on twitter

[copper mist]

Sssiiball

[sick quarry]

I wanna ask how much primos can be obtain if fully explore fontaine until the latest patch?

[olive isle]

i can’t tell, but around 30-40?

including the fountain rewards

[rugged sparrow]

30 primos pog

[reef comet]

edible

[reef comet]

at least 3

[haughty hawk]

like u

[reef comet]

ty, ig

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/crunch-cat-luna-eat-gif-3997701764820700221

[reef comet]

?

[copper mist]

Hey, it is the popular "crunchy cat"!

Amazing, I heard she is very popular with the youngsters these days!

[haughty hawk]

her name is luna

[swift crown]

banger song ngl

[copper mist]

Supa idol

[haughty hawk]

eating u

[reef comet]

uhm

[haughty hawk]

?

[swift crown]

[reef comet]

eat balls

[haughty hawk]

uhm

[reef comet]

?

[haughty hawk]

[reef comet]

pretty cool anime/manga ngl

[swift crown]

have you read the light novel

[reef comet]

bidkdeeznut

[reef comet]

i don't read light novel, it would take me a few months to finish off 1 story work , well i used to, but i suddenly stop wanting to read so much, it would lead to worse eyesight

[copper mist]

What

Reading leads to worse eyesight?

[reef comet]

common eyes myth (rel), but it's true, reading so much does lead to worse eyesight, even science hasn't proven it

[strange scarab]

Nonstop reading > gets eepy > vision blurs = worse eyesight

[swift crown]

each volume is really short

[olive isle]

https://tenor.com/view/furina-focalors-genshin-genshin-impact-heya-gif-7108248327390121427

[haughty hawk]

ok

https://tenor.com/view/frog-desert-rain-frog-angry-amphibian-gif-14101698

[reef comet]

i have read some novels with like 2000 chapters, horrendous

[swift crown]

not this one

i finished a volume in a few hours tops

[haughty hawk]

read veil

[swift crown]

what's that

[haughty hawk]

manga

[swift crown]

what's it about

[haughty hawk]

them

its a bunch of short stories abt them

all the chapters are pretty short, u can probably read the whole thing in an hour

[swift crown]

they look so hot

[haughty hawk]

they are >~<

[reef comet]

[swift crown]

ill read it tomorrow

[haughty hawk]

its one of my favs i luv it sm

@reef comet u too

[reef comet]

ty but what are you talking about

[haughty hawk]

hot

[reef comet]

not as hot as you

[haughty hawk]

thanks

[spiral dawn]

guys will navia come in std banner after her banner?

[jolly junco]

no

[dense nacelle]

Will this work using Sayu as a Jean substitute?

[jolly junco]

yes

[dense nacelle]

Thanks

[reef comet]

no standard character will do 300k at c0 like navia

[spiral dawn]

point

tigh is best std character as off now

[copper mist]

*as of now but you mean to say "so far"

Because this dude has been out for more than a year

[dusty cape]

[reef comet]

and? he isn't at navia level yet, he does get stronger the more cons he receives but it's about another conversation, navia is just too good to be a standard character

and surely they won't do clorinde or arlecchino dirty

[opal surge]

whats the best keqing team option for my alt, is it keqing fischl sucrose barbara?

not gonna pull much on this for a while so seems unlikely that I'll get a defensive dendro option anytime soon

[reef comet]

Kekwing Dendro 2nd Electro Anemo

[opal surge]

is it a dori angle so I can run a healer

[reef comet]

But for newbie account, do whatever

Run bennett

[opal surge]

[warped oracle]

Eh, best out of the dps options on standard

Jean and Mona go brrr

but also aggravate keqing is quite good actually, I would consider her and tighnari to be the best

[dark island]

Whose character is navia's weapon good for?

I lost to mist AAAAAAA

[reef comet]

Any dps that scales with atk

[opal surge]

its good for navia

[reef comet]

A statstick

[dark island]

Would it be better for diluc than wgs?

[reef comet]

Prob not

But it's actually can

[dusty cape]

But it's actually can

[reef comet]

(Or not duh duh duh)

[dusty cape]

(Or not duh duh duh)

[dark island]

[fading glade]

Can you buy resin with real money? Unlimited resin?

[dawn torrent]

Should this be enough? Or should i level her talents more?

[neon wave]

You can use primos to refresh, so yes
But it's not unlimited

[analog sable]

What world level is guaranteed 5 star artifacts

[fading glade]

Really silly that Hoyo doesn’t let you buy as much resin as you want

But thanks for answering my question 😭

[neon wave]

Some bundles also give resin iirc

[fading glade]

Which ones and how many?

[neon wave]

AR45 unlocks max level domains

[analog sable]

Someone said I had to be a certain world level

[neon wave]

According to wiki, wayfarer's supply bundle
Just 1 fragile

[neon wave]

No, just AR45

[fading glade]

Booooooooo

Sigh thanks anyways 😭😭

[copper mist]

It refreshes every week

But it's extremely overpriced

[reef comet]

They proclaimed they can refresh infinitely, it means they have infinitely money

[fading glade]

Wdym

[reef comet]

Idk, your question

[reef comet]

Her talent doesn't matter

[brittle cipher]

how do u unlock this weekly boss? i did all the archon quest

[dusty cape]

it’s from nahida’s 2nd story quest and should be out in the desert

[brittle cipher]

ohh tyy

[high palm]

what team should i make for my lvl 80 hu tau just collecting dust

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[dawn torrent]

Y not?

[neon wave]

Can you send your characters?

[high palm]

one sec

[analog pond]

With these char should i pull for raiden c0 (national team) or navia c0?

[dusty cape]

swirl damage only scales on character level and amount of em so it’s not necessary to level talents

[high palm]

hate being a ps player

i also have navia and kuki that i got recently

[dawn torrent]

Ok thank u 👍

[high palm]

soooo?

[analog pond]

Yooo so how about this?

[neon wave]

Hutao xingqiu zhongli flex (Fischl works)
Hutao Xingqiu furina jean
Hutao Xingqiu Bennett sucrose

[neon wave]

Just whoever you like best, you have good teammates for both

[analog pond]

But for meta tho? Im lacking in damage and cant do shit in spiral

[high palm]

i cant use zhongli or benny there on my lyney team and my furina is on my navia team

as for jean i just hate her

coulg anemo traveler technicly be a bootleg venti?

[neon wave]

Well no, a bit too bootleg
Also you never need to run 3 teams separately at once, so you can just switch teammates depending on what you need

[olive isle]

you should use charlotte

NOW

[neon wave]

Kinda the same? Raiden is more versatile but eh, Navia is alright
Both can clear

[high palm]

im fr building her

[olive isle]

my charlotte is at level 60 and she does heal a lot to mitigate furina's hp loss and fanfare stacks

so you may keep her at a low investment

[high palm]

im fr turning my traveler into a swirl unit

hm do i go em weapon or er- nvm er my em weapon is only lvl 50

[olive isle]

what for?

[high palm]

for my swirl traveler

[analog pond]

Whats navia team? Im tring to see who's team require less grinding

[high palm]

her best team is probs navia albedo furina charlotte iirc

[olive isle]

navia can be used in any teams that isn't mono geo

[high palm]

i cant belive im so desperate for a swirler i made my traveler a swirler-

[olive isle]

you don't really need vv shred since furina's buffs are already enough

[high palm]

noooo i need them for my lyney team

[neon wave]

Navia GMC Bennett flex

HP yeah, she's an HP scaler
Unless you need ER

[analog pond]

Wait what? Like what can you give me some example im kinda dum

[olive isle]

yes, hp% sands on yelan is great

just get an er weapon

[olive isle]

you have a built lynette, so use her

[high palm]

i wish there was a punching bag in teapot i could use-

[neon wave]

For flex? Xiangling, Fischl works too I believe

[high palm]

she wouldnt be as good as anemo traveler c6

as c6 decreses elemental res by a extra 20%

[olive isle]

c6 amc deals dmg that i can barely see, even with the elemental res

lynette allows you to build standard crit build so she can deal her good personal dmg

[high palm]

they aint a dmg dealer they are there for the swirl res shred

[spiral dawn]

guys i want to build kokomi :-
1)to apply hydro for hyperbloom team(cyno,fischl,collie/mc/tighnari)
2)to heal
As she deals too little dmg so
3) Want to buff main dps dmg
Need help with artifact set and its main stats

[analog pond]

Wow thats pretty easy, is it any fun?

[neon wave]

Idk I don't have her, she seemed pretty fun in trial though

[analog pond]

I mean... Yea she has guns and cannon and all that

[olive isle]

hp/hp/healing.

4pc tenacity for team wide atk. more useful on freeze teams
4pc deepwood for dendro teams, but you won't really find it useful since your dendro unit is usually going to hold deepwood anyways. if that happens, stick to tenacity, otherwise deepwood.

works on your cyno quickbloom team.

[frozen knoll]

which of these two would work better for xiao?
atk goblet he has 85/188
anemo goblet he's at 79/176

[high palm]

whats the next weapon banner like?

[olive isle]

that +20% res shred alone can't be good enough to compete with something like another unit that can hold 4pc vv and deals decent dmg

[high palm]

you think i dont have 4pc vv on her?

shes only there untill i can get a kazuha

[olive isle]

anemo goblet. atk goblet if run furina with him

may 2024 give you a decent anemoi goblet

[frozen knoll]

haha i happened to get the atk goblet on my bday this year lmao
and the anemo goblet just yesterday :D
sorta lucky ig

thank you for the help :>

[olive isle]

anw, amc grouping is unreliable, you had to move with tornado to keep dealing dmg, also moves some enemies away. lynette's burst has a taunt which attracts enemies to the hat

[high palm]

amc skill pulls all enemys towards you

[olive isle]

that takes more field time, lyney wants more field time

[high palm]

plus it doesnt matter that her burst pushes them away its a lyney team he has a bow

[olive isle]

you're also running xiangling in a team

or you dont?

[high palm]

im replacing xiangling with traveler

shes a placeholder for my kazuha

[olive isle]

what's your team tho

[high palm]

benny lyney zhongli and amc which was xiangling

but both are just placeholders for kazuha

[olive isle]

you already have a zhongli, which gives 20% universal shred

[warped oracle]

Xiangling is better lol

Especially with cons

[high palm]

xiangling only gives 15% pyro res decrease at c1 while a swirler gives alot more

[olive isle]

in return, she deals a lot of team dmg

[warped oracle]

So that’s 35% total pyro res, which is perfectly fine

[high palm]

which is only 35% instead of 80%

[warped oracle]

Res shred suffers from diminishing returns, so it starts to be useless for the team

[warped oracle]

Where are you getting 80% from

[high palm]

20% from zzhongli and 60% from amc

[olive isle]

c6 amc + 4pc vv + 20% zhongli

[warped oracle]

Oh right

Actually didn’t know that applied to other elements

[high palm]

yea if a element gets swirled it applies to that instead

[warped oracle]

But either way 80% shred isn’t a useful as you think it is

35% + a LOAD of extra damage is far better

[high palm]

i mean 80% is more useful then 35%

[high palm]

you have not saw how rough my xianglings build is

[warped oracle]

And then I would actually recommend swapping Zhongli for Kazuha

[olive isle]

technically yea, but you gotta consider other factors before you think about it

[high palm]

then say bye bye to my interuption resistance

[olive isle]

dodge or keep zhongli

[high palm]

cant rly dodge when charging a arrow

[warped oracle]

Then keep zhongli if you can’t

But Xiangling is one of the best parts of running monopyro

And you really should build her, she’s really good

[high palm]

got no resin or time for that im currently working on my navia team

[warped oracle]

You can strongbox emblem

[high palm]

ive finally got my navia to 90 after like a week of resin

[high palm]

used all my artifacts to strongbox husk for my albedo

[olive isle]

then build your team patiently, you don't need to rush

[warped oracle]

If I told you Xiangling was one of Navia best supports would that hurt you mentally

[high palm]

no cause i already have a team ready for navia which is albedo furina and charlotte

[warped oracle]

Ah right

No wonder you’re struggling, that’s a lot of new characters

[high palm]

exactly

[warped oracle]

I agree with 🔥 then, just be patient

[high palm]

then ive also gotta get mats for serpant

[olive isle]

build your team patiently

[warped oracle]

You can use anemo traveler as a bad replacement, but I don’t recommend wasting resources on them

[high palm]

oh dw they were already 90 and i stole my sucrose artifacts

[warped oracle]

For Lyney you really want Xiangling, easily one of his best teams

[high palm]

honestly i think lyneys best team is lyney benny kazuha and a shielder

[olive isle]

only for him to deal dmg alone, yes. but you get the most out of a mono pyro team, which is why xl is one of the best units in his team.

[high palm]

hm i might change zhongli for thoma

[warped oracle]

Don’t

Zhongli is far better lol

[dusty cape]

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[high palm]

i have lyneys weapon making thoma my shielder instead would increase my attack buff from 32 to 48

[olive isle]

thoma's shield can't refresh on lyney's charged atks

[warped oracle]

Unless you really need to move zhongli to another team there’s no reason to swap him

[high palm]

or i could make a xinyan shielder

[warped oracle]

No you can’t

Just use zhongli

[high palm]

but then im missing out on a big chunk of damage

[dusty cape]

xinyan is a horrible shielder 😭

[warped oracle]

Pretty sure C4 yanfei would be better for both of them

[warped oracle]

What chunk of damage!!?

[high palm]

right here

[olive isle]

-16% atk doesn't hurt

you have bennett's buff, pyro resonance, that's already good enough

[high palm]

crap i forgot about pyro res

[olive isle]

also you're gonna get full stacks with just 3 pyro units anyways

[warped oracle]

you could also run ttsd sucrose or heizou

[olive isle]

no need to get a 4th pyro unit

[warped oracle]

Would be better then anemo traveler

[high palm]

4th? i only have 2 pyro units on my team

[neon wave]

Plus you're losing zhongli's res shred

[high palm]

sucrose would be better on a em team