📌gimshim-help

[neon harness]

what weapons do u have, can u send a ss of ur polearm weapon page?

[haughty lotus]

soup 🤤

[gilded timber]

So this is the first team I used for the abyss

[neon harness]

enka.network

[gilded timber]

Does it look good?

[rancid gulch]

oh

[neon harness]

@haughty lotus why sus react

[rancid gulch]

what does that do

[rancid gulch]

thats insane

[haughty lotus]

ayato - work towards 4pc HoD / 4pc gladiator
kazuha - needs EM goblet, keep farming for more ER subs so you can also use EM sands
bennett - needs more ER
fischl - 4pc thundering fury isnt good on her, farm for 4pc golden troupe

[neon harness]

use a diferent weapon for ayato, either fontain craftable or kazuha story quest sword

[gilded timber]

And then this is what I use for the second half. Is it good enough

[neon harness]

sus team, quickbloom raiden

[rancid gulch]

why c6 bennet bad

[neon harness]

yelan er too high , she doesnt need that much with raiden

[umbral sedge]

Raiden
-lv 9 NA
-Mid flower, bad circlet
-can use more cr

Nahida
-Circlet?
-farm more™️

Yelan
-hp sands

Zl:
-weapon lvl

[gilded timber]

I head it was good?

[gilded timber]

I was told fav lance zhongli doesn't need it to be leveled up

[haughty lotus]

lvl weapon for 2 more pillar damage 🤤

[umbral sedge]

Sure if you only use for passive
Not lvl 90ing favge is a sin
Also ER modcheck

[hollow frigate]

@haughty lotus and @neon harness okie

[umbral sedge]

Disrespecting favge

[neon harness]

quickbloom no, hyperbloom tho sure

[neon harness]

pjws raiden

catch raiden and fjords xiangling for raiden national is another option

was tripping for a sec my bad

[hollow frigate]

but i want to give it for xiao when i get him in the future hopefully
any other recommendations?

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1084681469856854126.png?size=160&name=Trailblazer_Nom01

[gilded timber]

So what should my second team be?

[elder bluff]

are those 2 fav level 90 , one r3 and one r2

[haughty lotus]

why not

[umbral sedge]

Based

[hollow frigate]

okie, thank you very much! ^^

[neon harness]

team is fine, id recomend u switch to a full em raiden build for full hyperbloom raiden instead of quickbloom raiden

[umbral sedge]

Earn my respect by lvl 90ing favge

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1084681469856854126.png?size=160&name=Trailblazer_Nom01

[umbral sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1145454066940518611.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1135917388546703442.png?size=160&name=HackerWolf

[haughty lotus]

so cool

[nova swift]

Not as nice as you

[neon harness]

[haughty hawk]

thanks
u too
ig

[haughty lotus]

whoa

[haughty hawk]

hm?

[olive isle]

[cedar birch]

Should I get a better healer or a better dps person

[neon harness]

Who is ur dps?

[cedar birch]

Traveler

[neon harness]

get a better dps, although if u like can you can build him as dps, just get a better team for that ig

[rancid gulch]

how abt heizo

hes great

[cedar birch]

Who is that

[haughty lotus]

(he's not)

[rancid gulch]

what

damn

[haughty hawk]

balls

[haughty lotus]

yours?

[rancid gulch]

anemo guy

[haughty hawk]

pardon??

[haughty lotus]

hm?

[haughty lotus]

traveller furina fischl kuki

[cedar birch]

But then my team is forever half hp

[haughty lotus]

you have kuki, you can just switch and heal

[cedar birch]

Tbh her heal kinda sucks

[haughty lotus]

im assuming you havent built her then

[nova swift]

No u

[cedar birch]

What stat increases her healing

[neon harness]

[haughty lotus]

HP and EM, you stack EM in that team tho

[haughty hawk]

[sturdy swallow]

[sour birch]

what do yall think about the artis i have so far

[rancid gulch]

what does ayakas 1st skill do

[sour birch]

should i aim for more ER or HP or just try to full send the other two pieces to crit dmg

[sour birch]

her first ascension skill or her elemental skill or what are you talking abt here

[rancid gulch]

elemtntnatw

[sour birch]

ayaka's elemental skill deals aoe cryo dmg around her

that's it

[rancid gulch]

ok

tankyu

[umbral sedge]

That is one nice flower.

On-set goblet as well

[sour birch]

ikr 56cv goes crazy

[haughty hawk]

thats what im saying 😻😻

[umbral sedge]

[spring karma]

That’s a nice circlet but try go for crit dmg one as you only need around 40 cr because his set gives him 36 extra

[sour birch]

if his set gives him 36 extra then im shooting for 64 exact idc

[feral forge]

y not 60 tho

[sour birch]

i shoot for perfection and never achieve it, that's the kind of genshin player i am

[feral forge]

i mean if ya goin for less cr just get close enuff to perf crits

[sour birch]

or maybe i'll just run my 51cv HP circlet and not have any crit circlet at all

[feral forge]

ya hv sig?

[neon harness]

Optimizer time

[quaint fern]

Just overcrit

It's optimal

[neon harness]

why crit once when you can crit twice /surely

[quaint fern]

[feral forge]

lemme turn my screen upside down

[fathom vapor]

nahi yae zhongli and who?
someone else other than fischl since im using her for my furi koko taser

[gilded timber]

How much attack does ayato need? I'm having a really hard time balancing out em, cr, cd, and attack

[neon harness]

sucrose ig, or raiden, idk

[neon harness]

dont forget er

[gilded timber]

At least 2k right

[fathom vapor]

ooo raiden might be good, is it a good option?

[feral forge]

ya can go for kuki as well

cuz dogs drain hp

[sour birch]

no im on prototype amber

[sour birch]

nah not gonna do that work

[feral forge]

prolly not then cuz ya kinda need the cdmg

[quaint fern]

E.E I guess I'll skip https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/V0aC-GghBwyIMeSIB3xXCVtaluZ3LnM7753hSmbL6zI/https/mosaic.fxtwitter.com/jpeg/1736597915106525291/GBmUEuSagAAvi4B/GBmUGWOa0AAtYP2/GBmUIoMbwAAHlfQ

[sour birch]

if i can get 50/180 with HP circlet is that okey dokey

[sour birch]

CANDACE??? WHAT

[feral forge]

👍

[neon harness]

😭 weapon banner 4 stars i dedge

[sour birch]

BRUH

[feral forge]

ooh nice skip banners

[sour birch]

im pulling mist noooooo 😭

but i need C6 candace

[neon harness]

she works

[sour birch]

what is navia's weapon

is that a claymore

[neon harness]

ye claymore

[sour birch]

what is the second stat

[neon harness]

its so pretty, i wanna pull

[feral forge]

axe and mortar

also glare from sunglass

[neon harness]

cr

[sour birch]

pog

my noelle is about to go crazy if i dont get mist

[feral forge]

jus put it on dilulu smh

[sour birch]

no ew wtf

[fathom vapor]

nahi yae fischl kazu/zhongli? does kazu or zhongli work best as a flex (im thinking abt zhongli bcos lack of healers)

[feral forge]

bru dass y i said kuki

[feral forge]

best pyro dps fr

[neon harness]

you can switch out nahida for yaoyao/baizhu if you have them

sucrose and kaz both works for anemo spot

[sour birch]

this my noelle

with a CR weap she is kinda crazy

[feral forge]

get redhorni for her smh

[quaint fern]

Redhorn > axe bc axe has atk buff

[rancid gulch]

which is easier to lvl up ayato or ayaka

[haughty lotus]

The one you like more

[rancid gulch]

whay

no idea bro pick one

[dusty cape]

they both require the same amount of materials to level up just pick the one you like more

[pastel osprey]

spare? of navia

[neon harness]

Bruh I replied too late, hold up

[olive isle]

cross wiring the brain

[neon harness]

ayato cus he doesn’t need na talents, ayaka wants na leveled who ever u like more, aka triple crown zhongli

[dusty cape]

candance will complete my pre fontaine 4* collection and sucrose and rosa cons for melt amber

[quaint fern]

I got Candice while wishing for Kirara (I didn't get cat)

I have c6 sugar and nun already so I just skip ig

[olive isle]

I will not pull for navia even getting her axe (not)

[dusty cape]

I did kiwawa bomb it was fun

[neon harness]

Omgomgomgomgomgomgomgkmgkgkgjsbbsbshdhhdhd

Okgomgomgogkfjjfjdjdjdjdhhdhfhfhfnjfjf

[quaint fern]

What is daddy geo wearing 😳

[sour birch]

im trying for mist either way for my ayato

it's just that if i get the axe, my noelle will get it

[feral forge]

new skin ig

[feral forge]

noice

[neon harness]

my love for him

[elder bluff]

Axe is not even good for noelle

[feral forge]

shud i

[faint linden]

My thread is active for 3 days lol

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't level it unless you have a char that would use it assuming it rolls perfectly

[tardy jetty]

Version 4.3 :"Roses and Muskets" Maintenance Times

Estimated Maintenance Start Time:
<t:1703023200:F>,
<t:1703023200:R>

Approximately a five-hour downtime. You will be unable to log into the game during this period.

Estimated Maintenance End Time:
<t:1703041200:F>,
<t:1703041200:R>

The times shown above have already been converted into your timezone. Maintenance starts and ends at the same time for all servers~

(The pre-installation function is now available on both PC and mobile platforms.)

[quaint fern]

shorely we get new fountain levels

[fathom vapor]

wtf did i just roll for furina

now my furina has 72% base CR, and 92% crit dmg 😭

[strange scarab]

The next 4 stars are so ugly ugh

[strange scarab]

Ik what you just rolled: fodder

[lusty tinsel]

which battlepass weapon should I claim? plan to get Nerv when he reruns is getting the jade early a good option?

[strange scarab]

Proto amber is free

[haughty lotus]

yeah its his second best option after his signature weapon

Sigmund.

[haughty hawk]

nerv?!?!? nge reference?!?!?!?!!!!!

[lusty tinsel]

so if I dont get jade is any other weap good for my roster?

[haughty lotus]

fjords polearm if you play raiden national (raiden bennett xiangling xingqiu)

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/feliz-jueves-asuka-feliz-jueves-asuka-jueves-gif-18184379

[haughty lotus]

It is monday.

[haughty hawk]

asuka says feliz jueves

[haughty lotus]

wow so cute, I suppose

[haughty hawk]

thanks
u too
ig

[sharp saddle]

g gamin

[fathom vapor]

YO WAIT THE SANDS UAHWDUE

[haughty lotus]

all very replacable aside from the circlet

[whole wedge]

Ayaka, Shenhe, Mona and Kazuha? Or Ayaka, Charlotte, Furina and Kazuha

[fathom vapor]

thank you (just started grinding the domain)

[pastel zealot]

First one has more output i think

Second one's easier to get

[whole wedge]

The second one is the one I can do, I don’t have Shenhe yet. Or is there another team I can use that is better

[faint linden]

Tomorrow you guys didn't answer my question how bad is 2pc hp and 2pc golden troupe compared to 4 PC golden troupe

[quaint fern]

for furina?

accord to kqm sheets

4GT is significantly better

[frank spindle]

How much ER do I need on Ayaka minimum?

[umbral sedge]

Weapon?

[frank spindle]

The green one alhamham uses

[umbral sedge]

~130-140

[frank spindle]

Ok thx

[sour birch]

is 70/180 good enough for GT fischl (lyney weap)

ion wanna do more

[umbral sedge]

unlike ER, damage stats don't have a clear breakpoint for "how much attack or crit do I need" or "is this good enough". The best advice is to keep grinding until you have a decent amount of substats on your pieces and then use the Optimizer (https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/)

[rugged sparrow]

you kinda answer it yourself with the last part, no?

if you dont wanna do more then don't

[umbral sedge]

👆

[whole wedge]

Who is a better DPS, AlHaitham or Ayaka

[strange scarab]

I believe alhaitham deals more dendro damage than ayaka

[haughty lotus]

nah, id say ayaka does more cryo damage

[strange scarab]

Chonghaitham:

[spare garden]

Is this safe to uninstall?

[rugged sparrow]

if you only have one account sure

[umbral sedge]

Yeah, it just removes past character, archon quests, etc.
It won't effect anything unless you make a new account, in which case, the files will be reinstalled

[spare garden]

Alright

[whole wedge]

@spare garden yeah, don’t ever go back to an alt account, or else you will be forced to redownload

[primal osprey]

is Skyward Spine a comparable choice on Raiden due to it's NA Speed + Damage or is The Catch still better

[rugged sparrow]

they're about equal yeah, frees up Catch for XL

[primal osprey]

does the higher base damage actually make a difference at the end of the day

[sly musk]

This looks good for Charlotte artifact in wrio,furina team

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it helps to make atk% subs to be a lot more relevant

[primal osprey]

hmmmm okidoki

I don't use Xiangling so i'll just put The Catch on Raiden and save on resources

[rugged sparrow]

that works too

[median glade]

are u telling me it's good for vermilion xiao

[rugged sparrow]

I mean VHA is Xiao's bis, spare for 1 specific case

which involves Vortex Vanquisher

[median glade]

compared to noblesse?

[rugged sparrow]

... Noblesse on Xiao?

[median glade]

no on healer in team

[median glade]

compared to this

[rugged sparrow]

... it's referring to this msg

someone was asking Spine vs. Catch

[median glade]

oh..

[rugged sparrow]

no idea on how good the new healing set is, but it should be the best set there is for specific team comps

[sly musk]

Currently, im using noblesse on charlotte

[narrow folio]

Better luck next rerun

[opal surge]

Maybe I grab navia weapon on rerun

[narrow folio]

inb4 it runs with unforged or summit shaper

I'm grabbing it this run, I doubt it'll run with as good of a weapon as Mist in the future

[lyric cargo]

I have somewhat low expectations of the healing set. Let me try to calculate the damage:

15000 * 0.08 * 5 = 6000

I assume this is added to talent damage, like aggravate. In which case it would benefit from dmg% and crit.

Let's say I play it with Neuvilette, Furina, Kazuha. 100:300 crit ratio, so crit multiplier is 4. dmg% multiplier is what.. 2.5?

So that's 6000 * 4 * 2.5 = 60000.

33615 after enemy defense multiplier (lvl100) and 1.15x resistance multiplier

afaik that's about what clam does? now we'd have to see how many times a rotation you can proc it, maybe twice in best case?

(healing set: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Song_of_Days_Past)

[pastel zealot]

idk im going with the second team

[rugged sparrow]

don't forget that the buff is applied party-wide

so Kaz and Furina trigger their stuff too

[lyric cargo]

it says "When your active party member hits an opponent"?

[rugged sparrow]

quickswap that shit

[lyric cargo]

but it's limited to 5 hits, so actually better if only the char with the highest multipliers procs it

[rugged sparrow]

huh the set is worse than I thought

[lyric cargo]

in theory it looks like dmg% and crit scaling clam, which would be nice

but with these numbers, it seems similar to clam? I'm not sure

[narrow folio]

Then why use it over clam? Who'd you even put the set on?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's my question ^^

[narrow folio]

Future character, shorely

[lyric cargo]

surely

[narrow folio]

Otherwise this is just poor planning

[rugged sparrow]

I still have some questions with the sets but

[pastel zealot]

im going to pull for ayak
i wanna know:
how much crit ratio if blizzard/mare

[rugged sparrow]

as much as u can get

[pastel zealot]

note:im running ayaka furina charlotte kazuha

only got furina and charlotte atm lol

[pastel zealot]

I mean how much crit rate on both ends

[lyric cargo]

crit ratio 1 : 2 like with all chars that deal talent dmg

you just gotta make sure to count all your buffs, and not overcap 100% cr

[rugged sparrow]

cr is pretty much capped on 45% for BS and 49% for Mare

cdmg and other offensive stats? get as high as u can

[median glade]

about the res... clam is always physical
but the new one should consider vv no?

[pastel zealot]

hmm I've seen ppl do like 35/200+ for blizzard but idk about mare

i dont even know if id want mare on ayaka

[haughty lotus]

you dont

[pastel zealot]

alr..

[lyric cargo]

add buffs, don't look at just the raw initial crit rate

[sick quarry]

which is better for the trap archon named Venti?
Fading Twilight
Windblume Ode
Favonius Warbow(if there is any)
Stringless

[lyric cargo]

iirc it's 15% from cryo res, 40% from 4pc bs. so +55% total

35 + 55 = 90. 90/200+ isn't ideal unless you're assuming you'll get crit cards in abyss (which is a fair assumption, just know that's what you're assuming)

[lyric cargo]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

every account is guaranteed r1 fav bow btw. you get it from the first archon quest

[lyric cargo]

yeah, VV res shred would apply if it adds to talent dmg like I'm assuming. that's why I put 1.15x as the resistance multiplier

afaik clam is physical true dmg, so unaffected by enemy def and res shred

I'm wrong, phys res shred does affect clam

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Ocean-Hued_Clam

Sea-Dyed Foam deals Physical DMG. This damage is affected by enemies' Physical RES, but is unaffected by Physical DMG Bonus, enemy DEF, or enemy Damage Reduction.

[pulsar zinc]

which better?

[opal surge]

If U need the recharge right if not left

[pulsar zinc]

double hydro for the first one and solo hydro for the sec is what in thinking

[pastel zealot]

hmm you mean i would need more cr?

[opal surge]

177 in solo hydro will struggle

Depending on team

[pulsar zinc]

not max wep yet

around 190 plus passive bit

[opal surge]

Passive bit kind of doesn't do a lot I've found

[lyric cargo]

1 : 2 ratio would mean 100cr if you have 200 or more cd

it could make sense to take crit cards into account, though

also, unfreezable enemies (bosses) will not give you the BS bonus

[pulsar zinc]

meh then, kinda doing nice rn pairing with xq just wanna try different build

[opal surge]

Yeah I mean 190 can be fine for solo hydro, just depends on team and favge etc

[pulsar zinc]

icic

[olive isle]

gaming
https://fxtwitter.com/genshinimpact/status/1736689075711799542?s=46

[tame cedar]

Is Charlotte any good?

[olive isle]

good with furina yes

[pastel zealot]

alr then.

[pastel zealot]

yeah she's decent

[strange scarab]

Holy shit

[tame cedar]

Is Charlotte worth building?

[rugged sparrow]

if you use her, sure

[charred junco]

May someone explain weapon banner pity to me?

E.g. when does soft pity start/end, will the pity amount reset every banner even if you don't get a 5*, etc?

[lyric cargo]

pity will not reset. soft pity is 63, hard pity allegedly 80 but actually iirc 77

you'll usually get a 5★ within ~5 wishes after reaching soft pity though

it's 37.5% : 37.5% : 25% to get weapon 1 : weapon 2 : standard weapon

guarantee: if you lose (hit the 25%), next time it'll just be 50% : 50% between the two weapons. This also doesn't reset.

What resets are the fate points, but they only matter if you wish for 3 weapons in a row and have especially bad luck

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxKWjmM7lCE

it's generally only recommended if both weapons are a large increase for one of your chars

5★ weapons are like constellations. bigger numbers, but it's better to increase your character pool. at least until you have 2 - 3 good teams

[dusk galleon]

is navia good?

[strange scarab]

Wait for release and some testing to be done

We cannot say how good a character is when no one has ever used them before

[vale tartan]

You can get any 4 star in limited banner right?

[strange scarab]

Except kaeya amber lisa

[ashen ferry]

yea

[ashen ferry]

aren't they obtainable or am i tripping

[vale tartan]

I need bennett so badly

[strange scarab]

Only available on standard

[charred junco]

Aaaa that's so much better than characters, tyvmm

[ashen ferry]

kk

[strange scarab]

Its actually not f2p friendly though

[charred junco]

I'm just blessed if I get width

[strange scarab]

Widshit? Thats okayish i guess

[ashen ferry]

don't diss on widsith like that

[charred junco]

It's the xianyun propaganda

It seems like a lot of the non-wish options aren't that great, even the craftable/fishables

[ashen ferry]

iron sting tho

[strange scarab]

Started since 1.0, never pulled on 5 star cons/weapons, still managed just fine

[serene sandal]

should i craft prto amber for neuvi

[strange scarab]

Its the only decent f2p option for him

[serene sandal]

ok

[strange scarab]

Dont ever use widshit on him

[charred junco]

I'd be a little concerned if someone who's been active since 1.0 didn't manage fine

[ripe robin]

you'd be surprised

[charred junco]

I just pull what I like, even if it's a 4*. Might not be optimal but cest la vie

[charred junco]

Managing well means 36 star abyss?

[ripe robin]

yeah

[charred junco]

I can't do that because I suck lmao

😎 -dies at floor 10

[ripe robin]

Not as in hardware limiting them, but the fact that some surprisingly still didn't figure out how to build their characters after playing this game for 3 years actively

[charred junco]

3 years, 8-3 abyss, 9999 wooden fences in teapot

[primal bloom]

hello, what's a good crit rate and crit damage ratio?

[copper mist]

HOLY CLOUD RETAINER

gg we won guys

[olive isle]

anyways gaming

[copper mist]

GAMING

[opal surge]

or in navias case its worth because its the best looking weapon in the game

[strange scarab]

You know whos worth it? Xianyun

[opal surge]

Cloud retainer design looks very nice

Wish she wasnt so annoying as a character though

[keen condor]

I got yoimiya a bow on 80 🥲so it’s 100% 80 pity

[jolly junco]

one blasphemes

[charred junco]

Most people say 1:2

[primal bloom]

thank you so much!

[spiral mantle]

does xiao and furina work well together

[jolly junco]

yes

[spiral mantle]

oh wow

it would be furina xiao jean faruzan right

[jolly junco]

or bennett instead of jean, but yes

[spiral mantle]

oki

[keen condor]

Gamer leaks skill is a quick swipe with a pyro sword has three levels and the last one knocks him high up then he falls burst makes a circle and increases teammate atk based on his base atk* his c6 infuses teammates within his burst with pyro

[strange scarab]

Gamer huh

[keen condor]

Mhm

[strange scarab]

[keen condor]

Anyways is sayu good with furina or does she heal to little

[jolly junco]

she's okay

Jean is better

[keen condor]

My friend wants to play Raiden quick bloom

And doesn’t have Jean

What should sayus build be

[jolly junco]

I wouldn't use either for raiden quickbloom

[keen condor]

It’s Raiden nahida furina isn’t it a good team

[jolly junco]

it's usable but the last slot should be baizhu

[keen condor]

Sadly he didn’t have him

[opal surge]

yaoyao?

[jolly junco]

that is too bad

[keen condor]

Wouldent sayu be better for the vv shred

Or is Yao Yao just a lot better

[jolly junco]

you're going to struggle to swirl electro consistently in the team

[keen condor]

Okay thanks

[jolly junco]

yaoyao isn't a good slot either, she requires field time to heal a lot

I would recommend playing a different team

[keen condor]

Okay thanks

[fathom vapor]

decent for starters? (defo will grind)

[jolly junco]

Overall no, but the circlet is good

[fathom vapor]

yeah just started grinding, will improve

[keen condor]

Rip I’m not getting haran mist splitter it is

[spare garden]

I want to farm these but I don't know the name

[sly musk]

Udumbara Pistil

[spare garden]

Ty

[lyric cargo]

please let her be good

I kinda want an anemo healer + grouper for Furina teams. maybe that'll be her

though using Kazuha and a separate healer is also very reasonable

I think the element is the only thing we know?

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Xianyun

[opal surge]

I feel like another anemo healer would a bit sadge

now that jean finally found her place

[lyric cargo]

only thing is, using Jean + Neuvilette means you don't have grouping

or you use a second anemo, but that kinda clashes with Neuv

[pastel zealot]

Furina bringing Jean and Charlotte to the meta

[lyric cargo]

maybe the answer is just Kazuha and then Charlotte / etc

[pastel zealot]

i feel like charlotte should be s tier idk why some people put her at a

[opal surge]

why would charlotte be s tier

[lyric cargo]

or healerless / prototype amber

imo the topmost tier would be pretty small, unless we're talking about specific teams

[pastel zealot]

decent healing plus sub dps potential
idk i just feel like she complements furina so well

[lyric cargo]

last one I saw that I roughly agreed with. Just the 5★s, but 4★ would have to be around the same level to make that list

[civic totem]

how do I make the whale eat me twice?? I'm staring at her for like 3 min and she don't eat me again

[elder bluff]

she wont eat you if you damaged her enough

[pastel zealot]

i feel like alhaitham deserves to be in top tier

[civic totem]

oh ok that makes sense

[pastel zealot]

his dps potential and versatility makes him really solid

[opal surge]

hes really not that versatile

he can play spread and quickbloom and thats it p much

[lyric cargo]

I found Neuvilette's inclusion almost a hot take and a very strong statement at least

him being the only on-fielder included with versatile units like that

[opal surge]

to me I feel like doing good damage doesnt warrant being a top tier unit

[lyric cargo]

yeah

you'd have to be a good step above all the other on-fielders (all with solid damage) to warrant that

[opal surge]

ye but thats also why I dont really care for tiering in genshin either way

[pastel zealot]

about that
he kinda does doesnt he

[opal surge]

Supports/subdps are by design more 'useful' than on fielders, and hence should by design be tiered higher but that just makes tierlists awkward

[rugged sparrow]

other than Furina and Nahida, everything else is pretty luxury/situational pull

[pastel zealot]

useful support/off fielders are almost set to be top tier due to how well they can blend into any team and provide decent value

[opal surge]

If I had to delete furina or kazuha from my account id delete furina i think

kazuha just feels more fun on top of being pretty great

[pastel zealot]

kazuha is universal support

[opal surge]

although I guess im about to become a geo main

geo swirl when

[pastel zealot]

kinda sad that kazuha doesnt buff dendro

but yeah he can buff electro

so that compensates

[lyric cargo]

each of the non-swirlable elements has a way to shred a comparable amount though

dendro has deepwood memories (less shred but can be applied from off-field / no strict rotations)

geo has geo resonance and zhongli

anemo has c6 faruzan and c4 jean, though neither are very accessible

[opal surge]

wait I just realized I will need to get zhongli an actual set for navia

I guess instructors doesnt really make sense

[lyric cargo]

em scaling geo, surely

[strange scarab]

[pastel zealot]

deepwood = kazuha with dendro buff

[opal surge]

does crystalize shield scale with EM actually

[strange scarab]

Mhm

[pastel zealot]

bruh fr?

[strange scarab]

Crystalize is dogshit dont even bother getting EM for it

[pastel zealot]

soon to be Navia main

[opal surge]

what if navia scales off crystalize shield strength

[pastel zealot]

what if

its just a few days before she gets tested

wait for the numbers

[nocturne comet]

My girlfriend is a casual player and wants to build Chongyun she’s AR5
So he’s still viable then right? (Be respectful please)

[opal surge]

every character is fine

[pastel zealot]

respectfully you can run him with national team

[opal surge]

as long as they like them

[pastel zealot]

yea

or she can build support chongyun respectfully

[nocturne comet]

She doesn’t have Ei but has Shenhe and Kazuha

[pastel zealot]

i think thats a thing

[nocturne comet]

Oh with Noblesse?

[neon onyx]

can someone help me uid is 669177815

[pastel zealot]

idk ive just seen ppl do it

if she wants to run chongyun dps then kazuha support

[small blade]

try in #👥gimshim-coop

[neon onyx]

i did

someone joined

[small blade]

nice

[charred junco]

Do welfare meals stack in inventory

[elder bluff]

they do

[lofty badger]

Between rosaria, diona and charlotte, which is the best cryo flex for ayaka?

[elder bluff]

rosaria

[lyric cargo]

does that make it harder to find artifacts that don't overcap your crit rate?

[elder bluff]

the artifacts are depend on luck so

[serene sandal]

best team for neuvi? w the lowest investment

[opaque moat]

do yall have this problem too

[jolly junco]

I don't

it looks like bad lag?

[serene sandal]

pls help

[elder bluff]

neu/benny/xl/zl

[fathom vapor]

neuvi/fischl/zhongli/beidou

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I mean if the probably to overcap is much higher. I know it's kind of a close shave for Wriothesley for example, with his cr weapon

[lyric cargo]

Neuv's strength lies more in dealing damage than applying hydro

so his best teams emphasize that

but if yours isn't invested and you're not going to build him much, you're probably better off using his hydro application to trigger hyperbloom

it's using him poorly though

I'd rather play Alhaitham or Baizhu hyperbloom than Neuv

[opaque moat]

its crazy cuz everything else is okay just that robot checking thing is mega laggy

[jolly junco]

I see, I can't really provide any advice on how to solve it outside of just trying common sense things like closing and opening the application again, maybe restarting your device

[feral forge]

so we got dripped bout a character whos name is gaming?

who was namin this dude? amazon?

[serene sandal]

idm building neuvi i js dont have much time to play the game so

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Gaming
written Ga Ming, otherwise it's really hard to google

[lyric cargo]

try to level him and farm Marechaussee Hunter

can you play enough to use your resin somewhat regularly?

[serene sandal]

i can do 5 condensed a day? i have abt 50 fragile

i js cant do the whole 'take a month' thing bc it will take me 3

[feral forge]

gaming

[serene sandal]

is it worth doing the ascension quest bc i need primos

also how much hp should my neuvi aim to have

[final bay]

guys which character best fits skyward blade?

[quaint fern]

[dusty cape]

[lyric cargo]

just try to get as many crit and hp% rolls as possible, while balancing your crit ratio

at equal number of substats you'll typically want to prioritize crit over hp%, when possible. especially with prototype amber

[strange scarab]

No reason why not to
Even if youre struggling at higher WL, you can always coop

But you cant coop ascension quest

Thats between you and God

[rancid gulch]

do i prioritize em or er on xianglign

[lyric cargo]

prioritize ER until you can burst consistently and your rotation works

after that, cr/cd/em

[rancid gulch]

tankyu

[lyric cargo]

just → burst (typo, fixed now)

[olive isle]

hp stack meat shield ganyu

[worldly storm]

whats better for raiden atk or electro dmg goblet

[lyric cargo]

generally electro dmg%

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073722731939504218/1073723192218239088/unknown.png?ex=658f3fa5&is=657ccaa5&hm=bc46ecf36b24f0258eab55f552f775a0cfcfae4a23f303611283bb3e18689d0b&

(this was before Furina. maybe there are teams with her that stack enough dmg% to want atk% goblet. You can ask the optimizer.)

[worldly storm]

where is the optimizer

[quaint fern]

Google genshin impact optimizer

[native summit]

what would yall rate the team of
heizou
xingqiu
furina
kokomi

yes, im just throwing this out there

[neon harness]

Did u see the drip marketing

[neon harness]

No :3

[quaint fern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/554984861748822016/1186325834403938394/9k_1702904613971.png?ex=6592d707&is=65806207&hm=b4dd8e49b5064a939e16def111ab5470860e705f7e858e5b31c865d2e47fd374&

[neon harness]

https://fxtwitter.com/GenshinImpact/status/1736687837918179640 Smhsmh

[neon harness]

They are so fast with the silly@edits

[strange scarab]

Hhhuuguuooooooooaaaaaargrgrggrhhh

New resident in liyue harbor.. What exactly made her move to the mortal society

Who

Fake

False accusation

Good heavens those clothes are skintight

[lyric cargo]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/

[wet pelican]

Hutao with homa would be
Hp sands or Em sands more benefitting with same substats
I have 26k hp without hp sands

[neon harness]

Usually em sands, unless you have a lot of em buffs

[wet pelican]

Dont have alot and im lacking in em thats why i asked

Thx

[rigid river]

Ah guys I reached lvl 10 friendship with neuvillette
How do I get his special food recipe ?

[neon harness]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Consomme

You can make his special dish at any friendship level

Aya wth

[strange scarab]

Even his special dish is water

[umbral sedge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1101634850500399127/1186132710968787044/cb336142-5d8c-4ddf-a3f0-fdaf0cf998bf.gif?ex=6592232b&is=657fae2b&hm=6e6950d7488c6b837bead57b5bdf55498f91746b51228ba3ba2202b258b4e9f4&

[dusty cape]

[neon harness]

Smh

[earnest canyon]

I should make petpet gifs of all the jenhelp regulars fr

[dusty cape]

time to change my pfp

[olive isle]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wheeze-gif-14488819

[neon harness]

Zhongli pfp when

[dusty cape]

when piss vision

[neon harness]

Zhongli mariah carrie

[neon harness]

U first

[dusty cape]

time to go pick one out

they’re all hot

[olive isle]

zhongliah carey

[ashen bronze]

would gilded dreams be good on em hyperbloom raiden?

[olive isle]

yes

[ashen bronze]

thanks 🙏

[dusty cape]

@neon harness help

[haughty lotus]

is this kid unironically named gaming...

[quaint fern]

Apparently it's supposed to be jiaming

[neon harness]

Barkabakekskkakakskjsjshdjshsjsjkskakakkwkwiwjwjjsjskskejjejr

[dusty cape]

yes

[quaint fern]

But the translation team chose to romanize the Cantonese spelling

[dusty cape]

https://fxtwitter.com/genshinimpact/status/1736689075711799542?s=46

wrong one

[haughty lotus]

#🎮gaming

[neon harness]

All of them are so majestic, I can’t choose I’ll steal the pfp of one u didn’t pick

[quaint fern]

Is what I've been told #554984861748822016 message

[dusty cape]

alr bois it’s time to game

[dusty cape]

fr

[quaint fern]

#🎮gaming fr

[dusty cape]

I’ll make a computer decide for me

[neon harness]

[dusty cape]

[neon harness]

[dusty cape]

[neon harness]

Thoughts

[dusty cape]

none, head empty, just zhongli

[neon harness]

🤤 so true

[dusty cape]

I’m prepared for multiple guide_dog reacts

[copper mist]

Chevreuse.

Yoimiya banner.

Dedicated Miya support???

[earnest canyon]

whats high res

[dusty cape]

[neon harness]

[haughty lotus]

[copper mist]

Yoimiya story quest III confirmed???

[haughty lotus]

Yomia

[keen willow]

There's a yomia story quest 2?

Hutao when

[olive isle]

yomia

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-1week-until-christmas-christmas-week-meme-airpods-christmas-meme-gif-24202365

[charred junco]

Tog

[olive isle]

🚭

[dusty cape]

yomIIIa*

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1132526483684986970/1184385674191839252/image0-1_1.gif?ex=658bc81d&is=6579531d&hm=188e32cfc94ab23f75c14f7635457276d22b94587e7cdabec8cbf33ddc524681&

[paper cargo]

Does anyone know if next patch the fountain of lucine will be maxable? Cause I really don't feel like waiting 40 more days to do lv 1-50

[neon wave]

No new area was announced so probably not

[paper cargo]

Big sad, I'm sitting at like 1450 hydro sigils and missing a few things but cap is 40 atm anyways 🥲

[serene sandal]

is 38k hp ok for neuvi

?

shoudl i do HP/HP/HP or HP/HYDRO/HP

[haughty lotus]

Hp/hydro/crit, you need 4pc marechaussee

[serene sandal]

i did but then ppl said not to bc i was 'forcing it'

[haughty lotus]

Your current build is even worse than the last one

You just have to keep farming

[ripe robin]

focus on mainstats right now

[haughty hawk]

i need you

[haughty lotus]

I want you

[haughty hawk]

woah

[serene sandal]

is 49 fragile enough

[earnest canyon]

For what

[serene sandal]

neuvi talents and artis

[quaint fern]

Probably not

Well depends on what you consider complete

Can you get a 4 pc MH with the right mainstats? Probably

Will all of them be of good quality? Maybe, but probably not

Just farm talents first

[dusty cape]

talents and 90 for the king

[iron tundra]

what itto talent do i level first

[umbral sedge]

Na>q>e

[sturdy wolf]

What tier is Neuvillette?

[lyric cargo]

tier lists in genshin aren't really a great metric, but he's quite good

off-field supports are generally more important than on-fielders

though I've seen theorycrafters put him on a level with them, which is quite unusual for an on-fielder

[umbral sedge]

👆Genshin tier lists are irrelevant. Too many factors to consider, meta changes, etc.

[earnest canyon]

^

[lyric cargo]

if you have a certain team in mind, it gets much easier to say how good a char will be for it

[umbral sedge]

[cedar flint]

with enough investment any character can clear the game content for you so go ham

[rustic frost]

Are there any quests I need to do to start exploring fontaine

Like how inazuma has a quest for every island that u have to do to explore without suffering

[red sundial]

How do I solve this puzzle (I was too lazy to screenshot my game lol)

[rustic frost]

I believe u have to break the geo rocks near that area (use geo attacks) and then you'll get a little geo guy floating around u

If u go near the lamps while u have the guy they'll light up

So u have to light them all up

[red sundial]

Thanks!

[rustic frost]

👍

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[nova swift]

so true bestie

[ripe moth]

guys what do i name my wanderer

[dusty cape]

wanderer

[lilac hollow]

Meowche

[dusty cape]

[nova swift]

I named him 世子

[umbral sedge]

八宝粥

[ripe moth]

ooh what does that mean

[nova swift]

crown prince

[neon harness]

Dessert soup

Not as you as u

[umbral sedge]

[haughty hawk]

[dusty cape]

ezhoy.

[olive isle]

https://tenor.com/view/furina-focalors-genshin-genshin-impact-heya-gif-7108248327390121427

[dusty cape]

https://tenor.com/view/can-we-get-much-higher-the-one-piece-is-real-whitebeard-gif-26587931

[haughty hawk]

yozhe.

[dusty cape]

[dusty cape]

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

i love him

[dusty cape]

grimace core

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

rock

[dusty cape]

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

nose

[dusty cape]

my favorite so silly

[haughty hawk]

big ears

[keen condor]

How we feelin about thundering furry razor with around 500 em and a 80/160 crit ratio (or do I go full em) team is bennet c6 dmc xinque and razor

[haughty hawk]

furry

[keen condor]

Purple pikmin on top btw

[keen condor]

Elaborate

That is just a demographic of ppl

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

u said thundering furry

[keen condor]

Did u just ignore anything else I wrote (understandable)

[dusty cape]

@haughty lotus

[haughty hawk]

yea

[haughty hawk]

[keen condor]

NOT JOSH HUTCHERSON

GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD

My 13th reason why

Gn ppl I got work tmrw

[haughty lotus]

[haughty hawk]

heyyyy

[opal surge]

What happened to navia demo

[sour birch]

is 60/150 good enough for neuvillette (proto amber HP circlet)

[olive isle]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-josh-hutcherson-shocked-meme-whistle-meme-gif-14424944680414796611

[olive isle]

gonna come out in a couple of hours

[olive isle]

what artifact set

[sour birch]

mchs

[swift crown]

[olive isle]

i’d say you need more investment

[sour birch]

even though im running HP circlet

and thats like 180+cv

[opal surge]

is Hp circlet even that close without his signature/crit weapon

[sour birch]

it's a 50cv HP circlet

which candace build is better

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[sour birch]

*assuming i have enough ER to Q off CD either way

*also the one on the left has about 28k HP in the team that the one on the right was in

[lusty tulip]

How is this bloom dmg on my Kokomi full em in Nilou nahida baizhu team?

[strange scarab]

Neat

Shatter

[dapper flax]

Which for raiden?

[neon harness]

what weapon

[dapper flax]

Catch

[neon harness]

electro gob

[dapper flax]

Here her currently

[neon harness]

🤠

[elder bluff]

stats are is on track just get better piece with more cr

[haughty hawk]

<):3

[strange scarab]

Level 9 NA

[haughty lotus]

Level 10 skill

[haughty hawk]

<]:3c

[hard garnet]

which neuvillette build would be better:
1: 38k hp, 31:270, 30% hyd dmg bonus
2: 30k hp, 42:278, 76.6% hyd dmg bonus
thank u

[strange scarab]

Opp opp opp opp optimizer

Oh wait both build's crit rate is abysmal

[dusty cape]

what set

[hard garnet]

marechaussee

[dusty cape]

2nd

[strange scarab]

Get more crit rate use a cr circlet or something

[dusty cape]

but if there both marshausse why does one have more hydro dmg

[olive isle]

[hard garnet]

hydro goblet idk i’m asking for a friend

[strange scarab]

First one is hp gob surely

[hard garnet]

it is

[dusty cape]

enka.network and send both

[narrow frost]

Can you log in into your account using your uid?

[crystal gust]

I am at around 45 pity and have 21k primos and If I spend 30 pulls to get navia, will I get enough primos again from 4.3 to guarantee raiden? I want to be prepared for the worst case for her.

[strange scarab]

Uh 21k primos is 131 pulls isnt it

[elder bluff]

not enough at all

[strange scarab]

Assuming youre guaranteed for navia and actually got her within 30 pulls, you're left with 100
1 patch usually yields around 60 pulls on average
So you might get her after all

[urban ivy]

Does Gorou count also in this calculation? Or does it have to be other geo unit

[neon harness]

Gorou counts

Impregnable

[strange scarab]

Bread

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/crunch-cat-luna-eat-gif-3997701764820700221

[dusty cape]

@haughty lotus

[haughty lotus]

Hm?

[dusty cape]

[haughty hawk]

heyyy

[haughty lotus]

Good evening.

[haughty hawk]

[dusty cape]

honse.

when is ballshonse being released.

[haughty lotus]

Soon.

[haughty hawk]

give me ballshonse

[haughty lotus]

I'll consider it.

[dusty cape]

invitation to ballsmotes and kokmotes

[haughty lotus]

The council will have a meeting.

[haughty hawk]

u took honse from me

[dusty cape]

the balls council in the heavens above will decide.

[haughty lotus]

Throughout and , I alone am the honoured one.

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1107862956768764026.png?size=160&name=Sus

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-i'd-win-gif-7220010602787901432

[wheat magnet]

guys.. is it better to have 74.7% crit rate, 229.1% crit dmg or 85.2% crit rate, and 215.9% crit dmg on yelan..

she also has like 40k hp

send help

[dusty cape]

https://enka.network/

[urban ivy]

Bottom one if other stat is the same

[wheat magnet]

this?

thats her with the 2nd piece

my circlet sucks ik

[strange scarab]

Shes fine but burst should have been your first priority

[fathom vapor]

is kazuha's skill worth upgrading?

[strange scarab]

Eh barely any improvement

[wheat magnet]

alr

[haughty lotus]

Burst needs to be her highest talent, and you need a lot more ER (depends on the team)

[wheat magnet]

how much er?

[neon harness]

use erc

[dusty cape]

@Dependstm

[broken vault]

Should i lvl up my amo's bow just for fischl? ( i alr have a lvl 90 stringless r2, idk if i wanna spend the resources)

[shadow lynx]

Don't feel too bad getting a good Circlet is probably the hardest piece to get right

[broken vault]

i mean, the 10% er is quite nice since ur using simulacra

[shadow lynx]

What other bows do you have?

[broken vault]

ill send sc

[lavish arch]

i recently built 2 teams with few chars built from ground up. wats the best place to practice with new teams?

[shadow lynx]

Abyss

COMBAT PROVEN is what you want

[lavish arch]

abyss is too demoralizing 😰

[shadow lynx]

you start with your burst, unlimited tries and you don't have to waste food or trying to heal at a teleport point

[broken vault]

not many options as you can see 😔

[lavish arch]

and thats the place i want to beat in the first place... i can beat floor 9-11 but 12 is too difficult...

[lavish arch]

oh ok!

[broken vault]

this abyss rotation in particular is pretty brutal, its ok

[sharp saddle]

need some advices?

[lavish arch]

ok!

[shadow lynx]

It really depends on what kinda of team comp you're running because the amos bow is good stat stick but honestly its one of the most "mid" 5 star bows in the game

[sharp saddle]

can you pinpoint your issue first? small pool of character or just weak investment?

[lavish arch]

mid...? i have only gotten 2 5* weapons till now and both of them are amos bows 😢

[sharp saddle]

Amos' bow is pretty meh unless the holder is Ganyu

[shadow lynx]

For a 5 star weapon yes, compared to a 4 star weapon on MOST characters its still a good upgrade tho

[sharp saddle]

it's okay to use it tho

[broken vault]

i'd like some advice lol
i cant complete part 1 of the first chamber in under 2 minutes
my team in that part has 2 hydros (xingqiu and yelan) and even with the nice hydro appliance, i cant seem to do it
im running Hu tao, Yelan, Xingqiu and Diona
I changed Diona for tenacity Layla once, but it didnt change the results
then i changed diona for fischl, but then i had no healer and the clear time didnt change much too
what are the strats to beat it quickly? i dont think the problem is on my team

[shadow lynx]

Its like Skyward Spine. Is it a good polearm? I guess because it's a 5 star weapon with an ER main stat but on most characters you can remotely use it for like Raiden or Xiangling you might as well good fishing and get the catch

[broken vault]

neuv/kazuha/fischl/random shielder (still dont know who) or xiangling
or hu tao/xingqiu/yelan/fischl

[strange scarab]

Spine for raiden catch for xiangling

[small blade]

Spime is better than the catch on Raiden

[sharp saddle]

hmmm, so 12-1-1 takes you 2 mins.

can you tell me time usual time you need to beat them.
a decent/average team can start the 3rd wave around 9:10

stronger one can even do it around 9:30 or 9:40

[shadow lynx]

BUT R5 CATCH PASSIVES

[sharp saddle]

i guess you have some problem killing the balls fast or smth. If Yelan and XQ Burst are up, i don't think the lectors can even survive 10 seconds

on his shield phase that is

[broken vault]

i usually start the third wave around 8:50
the ball thingys are the toughest ones to kill, and they just spread and start wandering around, making it hard to destroy the pyro shield AND kill them at the same time

[broken vault]

lector is quite easy, its just hard to kill them all at once

i have to kinda focus on them individually, and that takes too much time

[shadow lynx]

I wouldn't focus on the time if its your first real crack at floor 12 Abyss, I'd focus more on getting the rotations right and target priority, eventually your clears get faster and you'll get the hang of it

Rome wasn't built in a day and progress is more important than focusing on 3 star clearing

[sharp saddle]

there's only 1 lector in 12-1-1

[broken vault]

alright, i admit that my dodging skills need real work

[lavish arch]

my team 1 is ayaka freeze team kazuha, ayaka, diona, mona
team 2 is Rational team raiden, xingqiu, bennett, xiangling.
my problem is with team 1 as my ayaka was level 20 before i built her... meaning i never used her before this.
i dont have good arts on mona too... still need to finish building her. but i have crowned her burst.
idk how team 1 rotations work tbh... i also need to do her sprint frequently for her normal attacks to have cryo effect.. and all this becomes lil overwhelming to me XD
team 2 for me is fine i have lot of experience with 3/4 chars on that team before so its fine.

[broken vault]

kill the balls and the lector

[sharp saddle]

i think the problem is just the balls right

they will just go around

[broken vault]

yep, and then i have to focus on the lector and the balls individually"
sometimes i even have to kill the balls individually

[shadow lynx]

ehhh its all good Ayaka is one of the most F2P friendly DPS's in the game

[sharp saddle]

freeze team is very good for 1st half yea, probably just lack of investment. Altho when the lector is on phase shield, dash around and NA / CA / E / Q with Mona instead of Ayaka

[lavish arch]

oh ok! nice

[sharp saddle]

i think if you can afford a freeze team it should be the easiest for the whole first half. No balls shenanigan

[lavish arch]

what is NA and CA?

[sturdy swallow]

normal attack charged attack

[sharp saddle]

normal attack, charged atk

[lavish arch]

ahh ok!

[sharp saddle]

Mona depletes Lector shield 4x faster than cryo unit

given same amount of elementals

[shadow lynx]

Real men use Barbara

[lavish arch]

woooowww... and here i was trying to do that with ganyu :/

[sharp saddle]

wow real men use Barbara

i wish i am real men

[shadow lynx]

I'll probably by her skin for new years

[broken vault]

i could switch xingqiu or yelan for kazuha, and ult swirl with cryo (by using diona or layla)
the freeze up time would be kinda lacking tho

[lavish arch]

is level 9xiangling burst good enough for phase 2?

[shadow lynx]

she can Replace koko in nilou hyperbloom right??

[sharp saddle]

swirling cryo with kazuha when the lector is around is harder than clearing abyss itself

[lavish arch]

xiangling**

[broken vault]

real, i hate when enemies come with elements infused

[shadow lynx]

For most characters you don't REALLY need beyond lvl 8 talents as long as they're well invested, you just do it if you really like the character

[sharp saddle]

nilou hyperbloom. And i thought i was the only one playing it

[lavish arch]

oh... well i am good then!!!

[strange scarab]

Nilou hyperbloom

[broken vault]

i could run double cryo, actually sounds like a good idea
rosaria/diona or layla, then i could focus on a almost full crit dmg build on hu tao (my current build is 70 cr/ 210 crit dmg)

[lavish arch]

is it good enough for floor 12 too...?

[strange scarab]

Try nilou shattterbloom instead

[sharp saddle]

you're running hutao there's no freeze for u. And 2 hydro is not doing justice you're not winning by goign 2 cryo

[native summit]

you can beat floor 12 with nilou bloom whilst nilou has level 1 talents

so yea

[lavish arch]

oh lol ok!! XD

[sharp saddle]

talent isn't always important

[shadow lynx]

A lot of Genshin youtubers/streamers clear Abyss 12/3 with 4 star only teams and lvl 8 talents to prove you can do Abyss without like 10/10/10 C6 R5 premium 5 star teams so yeh

[native summit]

but you dont have to crown your characters

[sharp saddle]

wow i wish i could be like them

poggie

[shadow lynx]

Not saying that talents are a dumb investment, its just past level 8 for most characters, it's REALLY expensive to invest

[lavish arch]

yeah but those ppl are really good at douging and rotations... i always just do oogabooga strats XD. which is why i am good with the rational team XDD.

need to practice

hence my first question XD

[shadow lynx]

and since most players aren't whales with millions of mora/resin/etc.. you have to invest wisely

[dusty cape]

fr

[lavish arch]

yeah true

[strange scarab]

I only got like 38 millions last time i checked

[rugged sparrow]

how does being a whale translate into Mora...

[broken vault]

here's a thing i havent told you yet, i hate playing hu tao
you have to always be on the right hp threshold and have consistent hydro aura and her aoe capabilities are "not ideal"
i think ill just distance myself from the 36 star abyss clear, until nahida/alhaitham comes around and i can run hyperbloom/quickbloom (my dream team, looks sooo fun to play)

[native summit]

700k mora to crown a talent 😭

ah hell nah

[shadow lynx]

because whales can buy mora from the shop and/or top up resin as often as they want

[broken vault]

50 primos cant hurt me

[rugged sparrow]

I have 20m Mora, am I a whale

[strange scarab]

Doesnt have to

[rugged sparrow]

it's just a dumb comparison

[shadow lynx]

Most players aren't in a position where they can just save up 20M mora is the point

a single data point doesn't make the entire sheet

[lavish arch]

my ayaka uses R5 amenoma. how much ER should i have on her?

[rugged sparrow]

and you somehow attribute people having more Mora as whales... yeah right

[sharp saddle]

you can opt out of playing Hutao.

I only need Barbara Collei Rosaria +1 for the 1st half and i got 12-1-1 with 8:35 left

[broken vault]

i mean, if you always but the bp, youll get 20m in like 3 bps (if you also do your dailies and events)
is buying every bp whale activity? 🤔

[shadow lynx]

not much you can get away with 110 even

[lavish arch]

ohh ok!

[broken vault]

thats amazing

[sharp saddle]

good to see u

[sharp saddle]

oh wait that's not me

[rugged sparrow]

BP aside, you get plenty of Mora from exploration

[sharp saddle]

but yea

[shadow lynx]

On the regular yes or you're a day 1 player that's had lots of time to farm material

[dusty cape]

[rugged sparrow]

leyline overflow also literally just happened last week

[rugged sparrow]

"had lots of time to farm material"

brother you know genshin is literally a 30 mins game tops on a daily basis, spare for exploration

[lavish arch]

yep! i was at 3M mora and went down to 31k and after 2 days of exploration, i went back up to 1.9M mora XD

[feral forge]

wdym how do ya have mora issues bruh i aint neva farmed that shizz

[strange scarab]

^^^i got 38 millions, how? Well i reached ar60 for more than a year now, so AR exp turns into mora for me
I always set expeditions for mora, using the 20% bonus
And i barely touched those rock piles in sumeru

[broken vault]

i was thinking about building the f2p hyperbloom team, but with yelan innit
i actually feel like the performance of that team on the abyss can surpass my hu tao clears (given i'm not that good with her tho)

[feral forge]

same bruh thats the chad move

[shadow lynx]

Maybe im just the only one struggling because if I'm not farming for new characters Im farming for better artifacts which is expensive af in mora for me ⚰️

[sharp saddle]

maybe? hyperbloom ez to play

for decent output

[strange scarab]

Imagine how much i can get from these

[rugged sparrow]

bruhge

[shadow lynx]

NEED THAT NILOU THO for hyperbloom

[rugged sparrow]

?

[shadow lynx]

otherwise for me no bueno

[rugged sparrow]

Nilou... for hyperbloom...?

[strange scarab]

❓

[rugged sparrow]

why are you using the worst hydro slot for hyperbloom

[strange scarab]

Might as well go use vapebloom like i always said

[broken vault]

hyperbloom just looks like mindless fun
i saw that the nahida hyperbloom team has 50k dps with random rotations and skills, its easy to play and fun

[sharp saddle]

welp I play Nilou Hyperbloom

[rugged sparrow]

cool

[shadow lynx]

AMEN TO THAT BROTHER

[strange scarab]

Go play shatterbloom NOW!

[sharp saddle]

i'll play it when shatter is real reaction

[broken vault]

Nilou is goated✅

[shadow lynx]

You use Nilou for hyperbloom because you know......

[rugged sparrow]

yeah we get it, you love to gimp your characters

[broken vault]

i wish shatter melt was real

[strange scarab]

Its real believe it baby

[shadow lynx]

ngl tho when Nilou first released she felt like a massive letdown

[sharp saddle]

too bad it doesn't work that way

[rugged sparrow]

in what regard

[strange scarab]

Theres this shatterburgeon nilou too

[shadow lynx]

like bruh Hydro and Dendro only??!?!?!

[rugged sparrow]

eh

[broken vault]

i think it was bc there weren't many dendro options at the time right

[strange scarab]

And hyperfridge nilou

[shadow lynx]

but hey Nahida released the next update and a bunch of people retracted their statements about Nilou being super mid

[sharp saddle]

Nilou is such a good design.

her main archetype is op as shit (this part can be tuned down a little)
but her usage aside her main archetype is still pretty decent

[shadow lynx]

I don't look forward to building Navia

[strange scarab]

Your loss

[shadow lynx]

because I feel like I have to slave away in her artifact domain for atleast a month before I get anything decent

[strange scarab]

So basically any character

[sharp saddle]

slap 2pc 2pc and go overworld

[shadow lynx]

new character ye lol

[native summit]

i'm not going for her

cuz i already have 2 quickswap geo units

so going for her just feels like a waste

[shadow lynx]

But given she's probaby one of the best designed characters looks wise

[strange scarab]

Your loss

[broken vault]

i won't build navia (cuz geo )
ngl, i love navia, best char of fontaine quest (navia > furina/lyney/neuv) but i just dont like geo, at all. I wish the geo rework was real

[shadow lynx]

FOR SURE I GRIND

[native summit]

i'll instead be going for rosaria and sucrose, who do have more value

[strange scarab]

You know who got the best design? Xianyun

[native summit]

Gaming better

[strange scarab]

Can he deal Xianyullion damage? I dont think so

[shadow lynx]

hey hey hey quad Geo with Itto is a lit team

[broken vault]

gotta get the phys res shread on the rosaria c6 🔥

[native summit]

yessir 🗣️ 🔥

[broken vault]

the orange numbers are simply not appealing for me
and crystalize...

[shadow lynx]

Just pull Zhongli ez

[broken vault]

zhongli is cool cuz he got the meteor, ill give geo that

[shadow lynx]

I hope C3 R1 raiden will be lit

[neon harness]

C6 r5 when

[shadow lynx]

current build C3 R1 going to give me a good boost for burst raiden?

[broken vault]

I MEANT PULLING SRY

[native summit]

C3.

your raiden is just cracked

[broken vault]

i say going for c3 has more value than going fo engulfing ( that is if youre running hyper )

[feral forge]

if sumone got dat and then played em raiden wud it be fair

[shadow lynx]

I want to see my raiden pull 500k+ when she pulls the sword out of her chest

[broken vault]

that'll be tough with no engulfing
def achievable tho ✅

[shadow lynx]

Im planning on C3 with R1 El trust

[broken vault]

nicee

fate count?

[shadow lynx]

and will end up loosing every 50 50 to qiqi probs

[broken vault]

or will the credit card do a cameo

[shadow lynx]

[native summit]

qiqi 😭

[shadow lynx]

me when I saw Yelan's demo

[broken vault]

if i lose 50/50, i NEED mona
i alr got 2 jeans and 2 keqings, can i have this mihoyo

[broken vault]

damm

[shadow lynx]

I actually WANT

ONE KEQING