📌gimshim-help

[sick quarry]

Ohh thanks!

[copper mist]

They are only at soul point and they have baron

It can go either way still

[jolly junco]

diluc can't run vapemelt, he shatters frozen enemies instead

[indigo fable]

imo qiqi works better with furina, but yea ill throw rosaria in there

[jolly junco]

qiqi doesn't work well with furina unless you on-field her, which in a diluc team you don't wanna do

[lyric cargo]

Jean or Bennett I guess, for VV res shred or the atk buff

adding Jean means you no longer need Qiqi

[indigo fable]

she works well for the seals, shes also got more invested than jean for talents rn

[jolly junco]

she doesn't

[lyric cargo]

kokomi taser or mono hydro are also options, but I assume you want to keep Diluc?

[indigo fable]

diluc doesnt matter terribly, i jsut dont rlly have a better main dps character rn

[umbral sedge]

Wooooooooooooooooooooo @copper mist

[jolly junco]

kokomi can be an on-field DPS and works well with furina

[indigo fable]

im just speaking from experience, ive been able to proc salon workers better with qiqi than jean in the past

[jolly junco]

could do kokomi, fischl, furina, beidou (ideally this would be kazuha)

[jolly junco]

you said yourself that your jean isn't invested

[umbral sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/oshi-no-ko-ruby-aqua-hoshino-ai-hosino-gif-10805831695792947376

[indigo fable]

that too

[jolly junco]

qiqi can effectively heal for fanfare when used on-field, but not very effectively off-field

[indigo fable]

what weapon should i run for kok

this is what ive got to work with

[jolly junco]

hakushin ring or prototype amber

[lyric cargo]

for weapon rankings in general:
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[indigo fable]

okidokie

[jolly junco]

could also use TTDS but you'd need to pay greater attention to your rotations

(since you'd wanna give the buff to fischl/beidou)

[indigo fable]

oh tru

ive got fischl with stringless rn

[copper mist]

We didn't see this one coming huh

But congrats they were just the undisputed best team

with the best players

Faker...

[umbral sedge]

Yeah... Zeus MVP, best top world

[copper mist]

They're all so good

[umbral sedge]

That Faker triple is going in the montages for sure

[indigo fable]

yk this mighve been destined

wishes kept giving me beidou until i got furina

[lyric cargo]

her c2 is pretty good

main downside is her damage falls off a lot in single target

[ivory echo]

guys how many time trial challenge are we supposed to have in the new 4.2 map

[rugged sparrow]

30 iirc

[tropic hazel]

Question! Crit rate or healing bonus for a balanced Jean build ? If I use healing bonus her crit is really low because I’m using Aquila favonia

[rugged sparrow]

what kind of Jean build are you even trying to go for

[tropic hazel]

Healer but I also want some damage

Is just not working - I just wanna know what may be better

I may test heals and see if she heals enough with crit

[craggy siren]

atk/atk/crit works

or er/atk/crit

[tropic hazel]

Ah so no Ameno dmg ?
I wasn’t sure on that one either

[olive isle]

what team do u run?

[craggy siren]

atk cup would make her heal more, and she also deals okay dmg without an anemo cup

9k E

[tropic hazel]

Uhhhh I don’t have a specific team right now I’m just fixing her

[olive isle]

is it w/ furina?

[tropic hazel]

Nah I wish I had furina

Again no real proper team

I’m just focussing on Jean herself

[olive isle]

oh, atk goblet can balance heals and dmg

dw, she heals enough

[tropic hazel]

Oki! I’ll switch that around

[olive isle]

what matters the most is dodge

[craggy siren]

wanderer faruzan bennett layla
ayaka xingqiu diona jean maybe

[lyric cargo]

Furina team? I feel like more healing will result in more damage

unless she already heals to 100%

[sleek kindle]

is r2 festering better than r1 primordial for furina

[lofty badger]

suggest a furina team for my friend (just make one without his character list)

[craggy siren]

neuvi furina zhongli/fischl if c1 jean

[copper mist]

Furina Beidou Fischl Jean

[haughty lotus]

Yae Furina jean Sara

[copper mist]

Primordial Splendor? Her sig is obviously better

You just need to get enough ER

[neon harness]

Up early or awake late susge

[copper mist]

Oh NVM her sig is called different

[haughty lotus]

Yes. Why are you up at 4

[neon harness]

Yes

[haughty lotus]

ok

[copper mist]

Primordial Jade Cutter is better yea

Also R2 Festering

[spiral mantle]

how can i improve my nahida?

[neon harness]

Team?

[spiral mantle]

nahida alhaitham yae miko bennett

[haughty lotus]

Replace Bennett with Kuki

[spiral mantle]

alr

[haughty lotus]

And your build is fine other that crit substat minmaxing

[sleek kindle]

i was still a noob to genshin back then its sad

[spiral mantle]

what should i do then?

[haughty lotus]

Her damage isn’t that significant, it’s pretty good in aoe but you might have higher priorities

[spiral mantle]

alr

[umbral sedge]

Coffee at 4 am, not a good idea but it is what it is.

[lofty badger]

asking for a friend: what stat should be a priority for furina

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865771067715747840/1164039779738984549/aya.gif?ex=6541c386&is=652f4e86&hm=468965b89130ff2a7e393c186fb11b345cfa1e2a937a3547efe6186137ac4a2c&

[umbral sedge]

Wth 😭

[neon harness]

Er until req> hp, crit

[umbral sedge]

Why are you still up

[haughty lotus]

Who

[neon harness]

Why r u still@up

[neon harness]

Tao

[umbral sedge]

Tao

[lofty badger]

okay

[haughty lotus]

ok

[umbral sedge]

Just finished watching Worlds

and that was the most anticlimatic series I've ever seen

[olive isle]

congrats to this person i guess

[haughty lotus]

Bailu

[neon harness]

Screm 1 what did they get

[umbral sedge]

Himeko

[neon harness]

😔 F

[umbral sedge]

LOL!

[olive isle]

thats an abundance logo

[umbral sedge]

the heck is abundance

[olive isle]

healer

[haughty lotus]

[umbral sedge]

oh the element :kokocrylaugh :

[haughty lotus]

No… not the element 💀

[olive isle]

it's a character role

[neon harness]

Breh I wasn’t able to see who they got

[umbral sedge]

[olive isle]

but it has given some standard traits, just like elemental visions and their respective traits

[neon harness]

Star rail too confusing

[haughty lotus]

Nah

[craggy siren]

78 pulls in no 5 star

[haughty lotus]

Skrril isue

[craggy siren]

surely i win 50/50 for c2 Clueless

[umbral sedge]

Hmmmge

[olive isle]

abyss now

[craggy siren]

already 36 starred

[olive isle]

beat new bosses in coop mode

[umbral sedge]

Kiddos are awake so early
Chrynkle, tell @haughty lotus and @neon harness to sleep

[haughty lotus]

I didn’t ask, thanks.

[olive isle]

🥴

[lofty badger]

mf when the wish turned gold but then your screen turns red

[craggy siren]

only got 20 primos left in those achievements

[spiral mantle]

should i only go for vorukasha's glow if i got dehya's c1?

[umbral sedge]

You just did

[haughty lotus]

You should just farm emblem instead regardless

[olive isle]

c1 increases dmg but you need burst uptime so emblem

[neon harness]

Nu u

[haughty lotus]

ok

[neon harness]

Only if u join me

[spiral mantle]

alr

whats a good team for dehya furina

[olive isle]

do i literally have to join-

[haughty lotus]

Jean Bennett

[spiral mantle]

alr

[craggy siren]

fainting is kinda like sleeping, so a punch could work

[spiral mantle]

so how should i build jean? vv?

[haughty lotus]

Yes

[spiral mantle]

alr

[unkempt river]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[unkempt river]

^

[low stirrup]

Is it worth to change charlotte for diona in my neuvi furina Jean team

[olive isle]

i would be deemed guilty by the oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale if i knock someone's consciousness off

[spiral mantle]

ill focus first on getting a good cd flower for yoimiya (cuz she's 70/140) rn then furina artifacts then dehya and jean

[haughty lotus]

Both don’t do anything, use a shielder

[craggy siren]

diona is a shielder

[haughty lotus]

1 hit

[low stirrup]

Yea lmao

[neon harness]

Yes

[low stirrup]

I don't have anyone else

[haughty lotus]

Send character list

[olive isle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/548028304050094080/1164138281429118987/catreaction_copy.gif?ex=65421f42&is=652faa42&hm=f07a8472318c937d59396f83c10b2f94cd780fdf475e400927c23f08e9239e9b&

[spiral mantle]

any feedback on both?

[olive isle]

if so, you can ask @forest venture, he can help you with that

[haughty lotus]

Oh you have his c1, you don’t need a shielder then and can just use someone like fischl

And you had Layla

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1129200780470145046/1141096362595864797/icon_19.gif

[low stirrup]

She doesn't have a proper set or a bow

[umbral sedge]

[haughty lotus]

It’s in the same domain as Furina and Neuvillette so keep farming

[umbral sedge]

Sus.

[olive isle]

oh wait that's my alt

[low stirrup]

Layla is better?

[neon harness]

Nu u

[haughty lotus]

As a shielder she is a lot better than diona but you have c1 Neuvillette so you don’t need a shielder

[neon harness]

Smh ☹️ join when

[olive isle]

where exactly

[neon harness]

Ayas walls

[spiral mantle]

?

[low stirrup]

What bow should I use for fischl

[neon harness]

Stringless is a good option, depends on what now u have

[haughty lotus]

Lvl 90 yelan and raise her burst talent

[spiral mantle]

(team i use: Yoimiya Yelan Yun Jin Bennett)

[spiral mantle]

alr but aside from that her artis r ok?

[olive isle]

ok g if that can lull you to sleep

[haughty lotus]

You really want a shielder with yomia

[spiral mantle]

man idrw get zl but guess i have to

[haughty lotus]

You can use Layla if you don’t have him

[spiral mantle]

alr

[olive isle]

https://tenor.com/view/focalor-genshin-impact-france-french-baguette-gif-27355557

[spiral mantle]

what abt yoi, what do i need to do w her?

[spiral mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/furina-shocked-gif-5025006200543465611

[haughty lotus]

Just keep farming shime for upgrades if you think you need it

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/furina-focalors-hydro-archon-furina-happy-furina-eat-gif-1723284204242416898

[spiral mantle]

specifically flower and sands right

[pastel zealot]

how many chests are there at the end of aranyaka?
and how many primos do they give?

[lofty badger]

pov: you woke up as zhongli one day, what will you do first

[sweet glen]

anyone free to help me asia server (i have furina flowers)

[pastel zealot]

omanthus whine

[neon harness]

😔 I can’t fall asleep

https://tenor.com/view/ganyu-genshin-impact-boba-bubble-gif-26156248

[sweet glen]

what?

[copper mist]

How is your progress on Aranyaka going

[olive isle]

they need to go inside aya's walls

[craggy siren]

balls

[sweet glen]

i dont want to trade films

[neon harness]

Urs 😳

[pastel zealot]

hmm at first it was like ok that's cool
now im at dream nursery and im like oh wow

[craggy siren]

[lyric cargo]

speaking of the film event, what's a good target to go for?

[neon harness]

That chat is also the coop chat

[sweet glen]

ok

[lyric cargo]

they renamed the channel, intending to make it clear film trading also goes there

it's normally just called co-op

[neon wave]

Hydro crystalflies, the otters if you gathered them all for that one objective

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[pastel zealot]

the arana or whatever's entry lines are making me laugh
havent felt it like that before while playing genshin

[neon harness]

For blue things, hydro crystal flies ig

[lyric cargo]

time to wait for convenient crystalflies to respawn

[neon wave]

If you've fished for the pipe and know the spots already the blue fish count as well

[lyric cargo]

can we photograph the underwater ones, or does the camera not work there?

[lofty badger]

it works

beware it only works on hydro crystalflies, blue fontainian birds, and otters

others simply doesnt work

[lyric cargo]

just gotta wait for that spot with 6x crystalfly to respawn then

12h timer

[neon harness]

If you have cleared the chests in ocean of the first part of Fontaine, there is a place full of otters

[neon wave]

Thalatta canyon the beloved

[neon harness]

The otters only appear if you have freed them from other chests and cages and seaweed jail etc

[lyric cargo]

thanks y'all

[copper mist]

I still need to film 7 creatures

So hydro crystalflies do count?

[neon harness]

Yes

They go back to where you first found them, their starting location

Try long logging out then back in

Or teleporting far away and the. Back

[lyric cargo]

entering tryout and leaving should reload the area

it's what I do to respawn bosses after the 5 minute timer is up

[slender adder]

should i raise her hp higher? atk????? building her is so hard

im currently orking on artifct set it is veryhard cries

[gray oxide]

@jolly junco time to turn on my anime mc edgelord mode and run Chaos Cyno v2

[neon harness]

Fish for pipe

Or use fav

[pure epoch]

try to go for 4pcs set Golden Troupe

[gray oxide]

fuck in the hilichurl's ass with the power of friendship

hell yea brooooooooother

[neon harness]

She scales off hp, lvl 90 her and level her talents

Hp goblet is good once u switch over to golden troupe

[gray oxide]

gonna run Cyno Furina Baizhu Thoma

sounds like energy blackhole hell yea

[slender adder]

thank you very much :3 @pure epoch thnak u very much :3

[gray oxide]

ngl Thoma's extra pyro aura prob just gonna grief Furina's already not so great hydro app even more

[true storm]

Anyone got suggestions how to clear chamber 3 floor 12

[jolly junco]

oh boy

[true storm]

I use Nuev Furina Kazuha Jean for the first half but cant clear second half in 1 min

[gray oxide]

the dmg is rubbish

truly one of the edgiest comps of all time

[jolly junco]

chaos cyno has always been weird

[gray oxide]

gonna crown genshinnoir as genshin's biggest emo sadboy for inventing such a thing

[gray oxide]

it really is just exchanging alot of hyperbloom for all of those fancy things

extra overloads, slightly better quicken uptime

in the end its not worth it either way

if youre a C0 kind of guy then going straight HB/quickbloom is better

[jolly junco]

you get some vaped hits on yelan, hell yeah

[gray oxide]

if you invest enough for the better quicken uptime to be more worth it then straight quicken is better

[gray oxide]

thats what im talkin abt brothaaaar

[lyric cargo]

trying to replace Nahida?

[jolly junco]

it's a really uncomfortable team to play imo, especially if you wanna get the most out of the team you build thoma with EM and then his shield is shit and yelan doesn't provide dmg reduction like xingqiu

[gray oxide]

yea

and yknow why this is a bad idea

Furina cant even wipe out your quicken aura

[jolly junco]

and even WHEN you build thoma with EM its still lower damage than just playing other more comfortable teams

[gray oxide]

95% of Cyno's uptime

so the extra quicken uptime doesnt matter

if anything it grieves your seed gen even more

[gray oxide]

hell yea i love building hybrid Thoma

truly a sadboy thing to do

[jolly junco]

I just use thoma for what he's actually good at, either a full on burgeon DPS or a shielder for wanderer

[gray oxide]

its such an odd position to be in tbh

anw lemme compare this with quickbloom

[lyric cargo]

the way it didn't immediately stun it with quicken.. not enough dendro?

[jolly junco]

I agree with your earlier statement

[jolly junco]

.

[gray oxide]

its night and day compared to this isnt it

[lyric cargo]

at 20s, it stayed invisible for quite some time?

[jolly junco]

yes but you also managed to stun it far sooner

[gray oxide]

yes

[pastel zealot]

is anyone else having the same problem that fps only drops in fontaine

[gray oxide]

but like the dmg is clearly reflected

even if you ignore the stun time

[pastel zealot]

wait no actually inazuma too i think

[ripe robin]

how does this team compare to cyno's usual quickbloom teams?

[jolly junco]

more damage at higher investment

[small blade]

Can you show your character list?

[gray oxide]

its quite similar to the Xingqiu variation

at my investment

[pastel zealot]

bruh why do i have higher fps in sumeru than i have in fontaine rn

[ripe robin]

constant frame drops? or sudden?

[pastel zealot]

sudden

[wet island]

Thoughts?

[pastel zealot]

it was still stable at 60 yesterday

i dont know what's going on but im feeling 40 fps in fontaine

[jolly junco]

artifacts look fine apart from the sands

[pastel zealot]

meanwhile 60 in sumeru

[olive isle]

what team are you planning to run

[wet island]

Neuv kazu zhongli

[olive isle]

alright more er is needed, around 200+. you can't actually rely on weapon passive as it will only last for a few seconds after casting skill

oh no

it's all good

[small blade]

ER looks fune for neuv team

[ripe robin]

If it feels like sudden chugs, it is from the game. if it feels like 40 constantly it is from your pc's specs. You can use fraps, to detect your actual frame rate in game, (cause for some reason geforce experience overlay and msi afterburner don't detect genshin's frame rate lol)

[olive isle]

i forgot hydro dragon

[pastel zealot]

hmm true

[wet island]

What about other things?

[olive isle]

just get better sands

[pastel zealot]

what does sudden chugs mean

[small blade]

Keep using your Neuv team and do Raiden, Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu 2nd half

[ripe robin]

sorry for my poor description, like sudden freezes and sudden slow down before the game goes back to normal.

[pastel zealot]

i see

well then ig abt my pc specs

i do have a processor bottleneck aft all

[ripe robin]

lowering your settings might be the best solution, or live with the frame drops

[pastel zealot]

hmm ok

i guess lower render or environmental details?

[ripe robin]

yea that would do

[copper mist]

My thoughts are godawful AI art

[gray oxide]

lmfao

[gray oxide]

have you witnessed the fuckshow that is my Neuvillette's partner-in-crime's build?

[craggy siren]

modcheck her waterdrop pupils

[gray oxide]

@jolly junco

funny part is it does more dmg than my CDMG circlet build

[jolly junco]

it is a cracked HP circlet to be fair

doesn't surprise me

[gray oxide]

True

[copper mist]

Looks good to me

[noble vale]

Hey do you think either those characters will be a good team for Hu Tao since I don’t have Yelan, Zhongli or Kazuha (the best team in the game)?

[pastel zealot]

alr

the best team in the game is alhaitham hyper

or ayaka premium

[copper mist]

@gray oxide But have you seen my 1% Xiangling build?

[noble vale]

Can you give me the character recommendations for 2 slots if I have Hu Tao & Xingqiu?

[copper mist]

Look at that juicy roll Value

[craggy siren]

that goblet

[pastel zealot]

just figured out it's just my browser 💀

[craggy siren]

chrome eating your ram

[copper mist]

This build has 3 dead stats but it's attack circlet

[gray oxide]

am i the only one who still dont know what a roll value is

[copper mist]

Probably overall potential of the build

[gray oxide]

bruh

[copper mist]

something like that, compared to if everything rolled max value

Yeah lol

[noble vale]

Ok but what bout Sucrose as the 4th slot if I have Layla on the 3rd slot?

[pastel zealot]

ar 45's min wl is 5 right

[noble vale]

I also don’t have Yelan and Zhongli I wish

I have Thoma

[craggy siren]

apparently my ayaka is top 1%

[copper mist]

This is the best build on my account

but it has way less roll value than the XL build

People overinvest in XL Ig

[reef comet]

r4

[copper mist]

Yeah

4 separate incidents

[reef comet]

lmao, give @gray oxide 1

[copper mist]

I would if I could

I really wanted an elegy and lost twice to that spear

[noble vale]

I could roll with Furina if I have enough primogems and time

[copper mist]

And another occasion idk what the other weapon was I lost twice to it AGAIN

[noble vale]

Better I save primogems

[copper mist]

Sheesh I love the attack rolls

Almost all rolls into good stats, only the circlet that has some bad rolls

Only the ER is kinda low

[noble vale]

One sec

[copper mist]

And ofc my pride and joy

[reef comet]

so true, yozhe has top 0% build

[craggy siren]

c6

[copper mist]

Yeah everything for her

[reef comet]

bolide💀

[copper mist]

I am sad I can no longer wish on Yoimiya banners

[reef comet]

why not, your pulls gonna turn in starglitter

[copper mist]

True, worth

[craggy siren]

top 2% raiden

just need a better goblet

[reef comet]

another blizzard farmer

[copper mist]

shiball

[craggy siren]

blizzard strongboxer

tfw you want to get crit dmg circlets for ayaka but end up with cracked blizzard crit rate circlets instead 😔

[reef comet]

should i use up 20 fragile resin to farm blizzard

wdym, i never use her

[noble vale]

That’s all I have

[lofty badger]

this feels so illegal

mf you got a free 10 pull there

[reef comet]

level 1 bennett, bro living life

[craggy siren]

shenhe with no cryo dps

[noble vale]

I didn’t got time to build them all lol

With 160 resins isn’t enough

[lofty badger]

MF ATLEAST LEVEL THEMP UP TO 20

[noble vale]

I don’t have much purple books

[prime fox]

[lofty badger]

THATS NO EXCUSE FROM GETTING FREE 1 PULL

[noble vale]

Well that’ll take me a while to do so and I don’t play much abyss

[craggy siren]

-600 free primos every 15 days

[noble vale]

Would been better if I have Yelan/Zhongli but too bad I don’t

[small blade]

🐳

[noble vale]

I could add Layla/Kaeya for nice melt damage for Hu Tao and Xingqiu idk if that’s good

Also dk what characters I should build for 2nd team for abyss

If Yelan & Zhongli or Kazuha are coming back then it’s the best time to farm primogems since it’ll be couple of patches before 5.0

[small blade]

You can do Hu tao, Xingqiu, Bennett, Sucrose (standard vv vape)
Or Hu tao, Xingqiu, Layla/Kaeya, Rosaria

[noble vale]

Yeah I just swap them out

Or you know what I could do Layla/Kaeya and Rosaria

I’ll use Layla for Shielder

[small blade]

That would be much more comfy and easier to execute. Though dmg will be worse, it frees up bennett and sucrose for 2nd team if needed

[craggy siren]

still top 2 but a bit better apparently

[noble vale]

Oh ok

[noble vale]

Dmg being worse doesn’t sound good but it sure is comfy

[small blade]

If you cant do the rotations properly for vv vape or get interrupted, it will perform worse

[noble vale]

I see

Dk how I can avoid that

[keen condor]

On field dps hydro traveler what should his team be I used Mona bennet kazu

[noble vale]

I wonder what other 2 characters I can use for Bennett & Sucrose in 2nd team 🤔

[small blade]

If you get another hydro like Yelan, you can do Sucrose, Hydro, Bennett, Xiangling. From your current options you can do Tighnari, Kuki, Fischl, Sucrose maybe

[half bay]

Somebody want to give me 2 red samples and 1 violet sample?
(I have EU account btw)

[fallow yoke]

amenoma or lion's roar for keqing

both R5

[small blade]

Lions roar

[fallow yoke]

ok

[pastel zealot]

where do you find this info btw

[native summit]

imma do a little funni thing

[pastel zealot]

i only know another version which is enka

[sick quarry]

does anyone in eu server want to trade with me with those genshin card

[craggy siren]

akasha system

[pastel zealot]

ohh

[native summit]

HMC, rosaria/kaeya, candace, kazuha/heizou/lynette

a little funni thing

[jolly junco]

#👥gimshim-coop

[sick quarry]

thanks

[keen condor]

Why Candace also don’t have her

[native summit]

candace specifically cuz hydro infusion

if you dont have her then...

xingqiu or smth

[keen condor]

Ok ig

[jolly junco]

furina, baizhu, raiden

[narrow folio]

Very relatable team

[jolly junco]

fr

[native summit]

this too

[small blade]

Did you build HMC to get a holder for Splendor?

[lyric cargo]

neat flower, sadly the 17cr moves her crit ratio in the wrong direction :[

[small blade]

A better circlet or goblet can fix that

[lyric cargo]

bit too much ER I think? since EL pasive brings her to 320 but emblem caps at 300

[craggy siren]

yeah my original build was good, just need an on set atk or electro cup that's better

[lilac hollow]

What's hmc role there?

[small blade]

Hydro reso for furina

[iron wing]

anyone know how much primos as a guess c2 character or character and sig would cost

[jolly junco]

(emotional) on-field hydro support

[olive isle]

furina's #1 moral, canonical, and exceptional support

[jolly junco]

indeed

[lyric cargo]

https://hutaobot.moe/tools/gachacalc
variance is pretty high

[olive isle]

for more details, look at furina's feelings about ascension: conclusion

[lyric cargo]

since you can win or lose 50/50s

[narrow folio]

To fill up a slot

[lyric cargo]

what I did with Nahida was: wish and see if I win the first 50/50
I won, so I knew I could keep wishing and guarantee c2

if I lost, I could've stopped there and keep my guarantee for another char

[craggy siren]

worst case scenario, you lose all 50/50s at around soft pity, so 6x80 + 3*70 maybe?

[lyric cargo]

oh, you mean for c2 r1?

[craggy siren]

690 rolls funni number

[lyric cargo]

my strategy is to not wish on weapon banners unless I have a good use for both weapons

after I get one, I usually won't have a use for a second copy, so I'll stop there

[craggy siren]

my strategy was to roll on the weapon banner first and see which sig i get, then roll for the character

got ayaka, hutao and yelan that way

[lyric cargo]

that's also viable, if you have enough wishes saved

if I get a standard banner weapon, I can keep wishing
then if I get the one I didn't path for, I can keep wishing and know I won't get a second copy

but that's the only way I'll ever make use of the path points

[iron wing]

do u reckon 280 can get a c2

[lyric cargo]

all I can do is ask the site I linked for the probability

or click on "next is guaranteed" to see what it looks like when I only continue after winning the first 50/50

[craggy siren]

you would get 3 5 stars

from 280 pulls

if you win all of them, you get c2

[lyric cargo]

outcomes from 280 wishes:

outcomes assuming first 50/50 is won:

so if you keep going regardless, it's like a coin flip

[unkempt river]

Just exclude that the coin can land on the bezel...

[lyric cargo]

just find one extra wish under the sofa 😛

to push the odds over the edge

[craggy siren]

if you asked everyone on earth to give you 1$, you can whale and get c6

[unkempt river]

Yup

[lyric cargo]

don't specify it's for genshin though. literally nobody will give you the money then 😛

[craggy siren]

say you're a nigerian prince who'll share your treasure with people, all you need is 1$ for the delivering fee

gather the money, buy mihoyo, make stonks, give money back to the people, stonks

[languid rover]

help with domains and bosses pls

[small blade]

#👥gimshim-coop

[languid rover]

oh sorry

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-rickroll-genshin-impact-gif-25968574

[keen condor]

Uhh would you believe me if I said no (also pulling for furina

Just gave him sum artifacts I had laying around

[olive isle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-suspicious-stare-reaction-gif-gif-26297876

[small blade]

#👥gimshim-coop

@sick quarry

[keen kraken]

is r1 windblume ode better than r5 prototype crescent for ganyu on morgana team?

[small blade]

no

[keen kraken]

can you explain why?

[small blade]

The mainstat being EM doesn't help in freeze teams at all. Also the passive is much worse than crescents

[keen kraken]

i see! thank you

[shell haven]

is the weapon banner pity 80 or 90?

[small blade]

Soft pity starts at 63, Hard pity is 80

[shell haven]

oh okay thanks for answering 🫶

[gritty hearth]

who would possibly be able to use this?

[reef comet]

Fischl/Yae in aggravate

[gritty hearth]

ok ty

[white berry]

anyone from na server got reds or purples spare that could send some

[balmy sandal]

is furina or yelan better for cyno quickbloom? (other teammates would be baizhu and nahida ig)

[small blade]

If your cyno is highly invested, furina will be better. Otherwise more hydro for hyperbloom will do better

[balmy sandal]

wdym by highly invested? For info ive triple crowned him , hes lvl 90 and has the jade spear lvl 90 ( i was originally planning to pull for his weapon but im starting to think maybe furina will be a better choice ?)

and he's c0

[small blade]

Hard to tell for sure which will be better. But I don't think pulling furina will be a good enough upgrade. (Dont get me wrong, she is an amazing character)

[gritty hearth]

which build is better?

[lyric cargo]

the main difference I see is the crit ratio. use this formula to compare them:
average crit = cr * cd

0.93 * 211.2 = 196.416%
0.724 * 245.5 = 177.742%

the ER difference is harder to evaluate. if you can't burst, you can't burst

[primal latch]

Is hu tao + furina good? Kinda reluctant since u need healer for furina. Tyty

[lyric cargo]

possible sidegrade or upgrade, not sure. I think it should be a good pull since it gives you another off-field hydro unit

so the other team can still have one even if hutao uses two on hers

[agile stirrup]

is 6-10k raw dmg ok on wanderer?

[jolly junco]

it certainly works anyway. the dmg% buff that furina provides is greater than the dmg% hu tao gains from being below 50% HP. you need to run xingqiu or yelan with furina though - for enough hydro application. Jean ideally takes last slot for teamwide healing and VV shred for your hydro units

[primal latch]

Tyty

[jolly junco]

I don't know numbers wise how it compares to other hu tao teams, should be a sidegrade at best

[jolly junco]

could you send a picture of your build

using enka.network ideally

[agile stirrup]

im not done w the build but it still seems kinda underwhelming to me

[quaint fern]

💀

I guess I'll level a dull blade

[jolly junco]

your goblet should be anemo dmg%. you also need to ascend + level wanderer more, level talents more, and level your weapon to 90

[agile stirrup]

..not yet done

the numbers still feel too low tho

at his current state

[jolly junco]

wanderer's raw damage without buffs isn't great since he doesn't have many stat buffs actually in his kit (there's his A1 passive but that requires coming into contact with other element(s)

[agile stirrup]

do yk how much the avg wanderer is supposed to do?

[jolly junco]

not really, and I don't even know what metric would be used to ascertain what an "average" wanderer is

[agile stirrup]

bc ive seen him do like 15 or 20k so idk how much i should aim for

[jolly junco]

people typically use wanderer with faruzan and bennett, rather than unbuffed as well

[agile stirrup]

ah okay tyty

[jolly junco]

in terms of how much damage you're "supposed" to do, well enough to handle abyss without much struggle - though this particular abyss 12 is bad for wanderer on both sides

[pulsar zinc]

wolf fang passive still works off-field? like if u gain stacks when burst and skill on-field, then the stacks would remain, just cant gain stacks off-field

[native patrol]

furina sucking too much hp out of offield units

[jolly junco]

correct

[native patrol]

whats the best comp for furina

[pulsar zinc]

aight thx

[jolly junco]

hard to say what the "best" comp for furina is really, she's pretty flexible team wise. main thing to keep is mind is that usually you wanna use her with a character that can provide good teamwide healing for fanfare points

its like asking what the best comp for xingqiu or yelan is if you know what I mean

[cobalt sigil]

Hey, I'm halfway through the Inazuma story at AR42 and I'm hella stuck on how to progress, my damage just isn't high enough to beat any of the enemies in it, even with the world level lowered. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, can someone smarter than me help me out?

[native patrol]

alr whats the best with whats available

[worthy river]

does anyone know how to do that genshin bug that lets you pause with the wishing screen and your coop teammates can stack as many buffs and debuffs as they want
like the old camera bug but the new version with the wish screen

[jolly junco]

have you been leveling your characters, leveling weapons and upgrading relevant talents? particularly for damage dealers (these should be your highest priority characters investment wise)

[cobalt sigil]

I've leveled them as much as I can with what I have but I haven't been able to ascend many of my characters cuz I can't beat the bosses that I need to. I run Hu Tao and I can't beat the Primo Geovishap cuz he's too strong and I can't beat Ruin Serpents cuz I'm not that far in the Chasm story yet

[jolly junco]

what constellation neuvillette?

[native patrol]

the 5 stars are mostly c0, except for jean and dulic

[jolly junco]

have you considered asking for coop help when it comes to bosses? if you join the genshin official server, get ur region role, u can access the coop channel there for that region and you will find people willing to help

being able to build your characters is important

if you have xingqiu make sure to use him with hu tao as well

https://discord.gg/genshinimpact

[cobalt sigil]

I have Xingqiu but I don't like him so I rolled for Yelan and got her and use her

[jolly junco]

hu tao, xingqiu, yelan, flexible ( can be a defensive option like zhongli) is a very good team

[cobalt sigil]

I don't have Zhongli so I've been running Thoma cuz he's the only sheilder I have

I've been running Hu Tao, Thoma, Sucrose and Yelan

[jolly junco]

neuvillette, furina, zhongli, jean
raiden, yelan, jean, furina
furina, hu tao, xingqiu/yelan, jean

[jolly junco]

I'd recommend using xingqiu instead of sucrose or thoma unless you're really unwilling to, he's a great character

[cobalt sigil]

I just don't like the way he looks, is he really that good? I don't really know what he does

[jolly junco]

he's arguably one of the best characters in the game

very good off-field hydro application, strong defensive utility (damage reduction and stagger resistance), good off-field damage

some would say inarguably one of the best characters in the game

[cobalt sigil]

I don't wanna flex my damage, I just wanna be able to keep up in the story and progress

Even with Vaporize and her E active, my Hu Tao can barely reach 1000 damage on hit

[dull stratus]

hello everyone do you know what is this stone for?

[jolly junco]

yeah you should join the genshin official server if you haven't already and get help with doing world bosses to ascend her

[dull stratus]

also this, the mushroom reacts with electro

[jagged matrix]

Needing help make abyss teams

Cyno is 90, Furina and Charlotte came home

[keen willow]

Send all your characters

[jagged matrix]

I have all four stars except kaveh kirara and fremi

And all the good ones are there

[quaint fern]

what chamber are you targeting?

[jagged matrix]

11+

[quaint fern]

are you having issues on a particular chamber?

you benefit from grouping on first half 11-1-1

2nd side is just a dps check

1st side encourages you to use grouping and hydro while discouraging cryo and anemo

[jagged matrix]

Just generally I want two good teams that can work well

[quaint fern]

is your faruzan built?

you can probably run xiao second half and cyno quickbloom 1st half

[jagged matrix]

Teams???

And I got furina too, I want to use her

[quaint fern]

Xiao Bennett faruzan shielder 2nd half

I'm not too familiar with how cyno quickbloom works

[jolly junco]

I don't think they want teams for a specific abyss floor/chamber

it;d be good if you could send a full picture of your characters though

[quaint fern]

Well cyno quickbloom should work 12 2nd half

[lyric cargo]

for overworld, you can get away with a lot.
if you want to do abyss, I'd consider building him anyways (you don't have to look at him a lot, since he's mostly off-field)

usually people have a few favourite units but are willing to give them whatever supports they need to shine. if that's not you, you can maybe still clear with enough investment

[quaint fern]

1st half.... Idk for them

Wet rock?

[cobalt sigil]

I don't really wanna do Abyss, I just wanna clear the game's story

[lyric cargo]

ah

[quaint fern]

You can get away with pretty much anything for over world

As long as it's semi coherent

Tbh. You can just keep using your team

Hu Tao yelan should be able to clear everything

*as long as they're built

[jolly junco]

kokomi, furina, fischl, venti
yae, fischl, yaoyao, sucrose or cyno, xingqiu, dendro traveler, kuki/yaoyao

if you opt for the yae team you can replace fischl with xingqiu

[jolly junco]

for the kokomi/furina team I mean

bennett, xiangling, xingqiu, sucrose is another good team but a bit risky on current abyss 12 2nd half because you can get melted on 12-3

[waxen helm]

hey can someone help me with the furina boss? cuz im on a new account wrld lvl 3 so its light work.

[native summit]

erm

[native summit]

hydro tulpa...

i think i could help

[waxen helm]

would be nice

[native summit]

go to #👥gimshim-coop for this type of thing btw

[waxen helm]

okay

also are you on EU?

[native summit]

no

NA

[waxen helm]

dang

[jolly junco]

https://discord.gg/genshinimpact get the traveler role, assign yourself EU role, and ask the coop channel there

if you ask the coop channel here it'll probably just get buried amongst film-trading requests, since they didn't create a different a channel for general coop help

[sterile ruin]

rust, amos’ bow, or aqua simulacra for childe?

[jolly junco]

aqua

[dusty cape]

agua

[brittle shale]

Can anyone help with abyss teams or is there a certain channel for that

[lyric cargo]

this would be the channel

can you post a screenshot of your char list?
you can take it under "all characters" on the company's website:
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/m.html

[umbral sedge]

Deph

[brittle shale]

u remember me??

[brittle shale]

Here it is pretty much

[umbral sedge]

[lyric cargo]

xq yelan filler filler
aggravate

or

Ayaka Kokomi freeze
hutao / hyperbloom / etc

basically the second side can be anything that's good in single target (and enemies aren't too resistant to)

[narrow folio]

Why is Nilou level 20?

[brittle shale]

“Building pity”

[lyric cargo]

the first side has multi target and a bunch of pyro shields

[narrow folio]

[brittle shale]

I haven’t played Genshin in a bit but I want to use a nilou team and hu Tao team

I don’t really care what’s best to be completely honest

[narrow folio]

Might wanna level her then

[lyric cargo]

Nilou Kokomi Nahida Yaoyao would probably be good first side, if you have artifacts for them and are willing to lvl90 both hydro units

[brittle shale]

I don’t like yaoyao

Her face annoys me smh

[lyric cargo]

you could pull baizhu

or play collei/ etc

[brittle shale]

There really is nothing else?

[narrow folio]

You don't need to run two dendros

Just onfield Nahida

[lyric cargo]

if you're running solo dendro, you'd have to on-field Nahida yeah

[brittle shale]

Maybe I could try to use a hu tao team without double hydro

[lyric cargo]

since tkp will only trigger when triggering reactions, you'd need to apply dendro to apply dendro

[narrow folio]

I mean she only needs Xingqiu so it's not that much of an issue

[brittle shale]

So I was thinking nilou nahida yelan Kokomi Hu Tao zhongli xingqiu flex

But idk what would be the best option

[narrow folio]

Furina

[brittle shale]

Or maybe I could just do double dendro

[brittle shale]

oh uhh yeah

[narrow folio]

I know you don't have her

[brittle shale]

I forgot about her I don’t know how many rolls I have

[lyric cargo]

nilou mains bloom guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/13LNlnxmSk4pZw-1O-4f2d8QfHgLVmPxrtN-iN774SGc/mobilebasic

the section on 2 dendro 2 hydro vs 1 dendro 3 hydro is worth reading
there are also sample teams way down into the guide

[brittle shale]

Okay thanks a lot

[lyric cargo]

the main upside to collei would be that she can hold elegy for a teammate em buff

[narrow folio]

I'll build Collei one day

Today will not be that day

[jolly junco]

I tried collei for a bit in nilou bloom, feels kinda meh

[narrow folio]

I honestly love her design but I can't convince myself to build her

[jolly junco]

she's popular with speedrunners though, frontloaded dendro application

then again i also dont like kokomi in nilou bloom and she's popular

[narrow folio]

What do you like in nilou bloom?

[jolly junco]

i heckin love bloom ayato

[narrow folio]

Interesting

[brittle shale]

What’s wrong with nilou bloom

[jolly junco]

nothing

[narrow folio]

nothing?

We're just going over preferences

[brittle shale]

oh ok

[jolly junco]

nilou bloom is a great team in AoE

its also very braindead

[narrow folio]

And funny

I love Nilou so much

[jolly junco]

i wouldnt play it without nahida though

[narrow folio]

Oh yea, fuck that

[jolly junco]

i also wouldnt play any single team that includes hyperbloom or burgeon without nahida

[narrow folio]

Before Nahida existed we had to make due but now it feels like a crime to exclude her

[lyric cargo]

Nahida team or aggravate or no dendro at all imo

I guess there's Alhaitham quickbloom now

[jolly junco]

there are some decent non nahida teams that utilise bloom or hyperbloom/burgeon damage but man do they feel cope in comparison

[lyric cargo]

Alh Baizhu Furina Kuki/Raiden

[jolly junco]

granted I might be biased since I have c2 nahida

[copper mist]

I do like Haitham Baizhu Furina Yae

[narrow folio]

Whale

Imagine having a C2 five star

[copper mist]

True smh

[jolly junco]

surely you dont have a c2 furina

[lyric cargo]

couldn't be me, right

[copper mist]

[narrow folio]

Noooooo

[jolly junco]

[lyric cargo]

tbf, being a lucky f2p can be enough to have the wishes for c2 lying around

go much higher and you'd have to save for a year though

[dusty cape]

[umbral sedge]

So many whales in the chat

[lyric cargo]

unrelated:
one day I might decide I have not enough to do with my resources and lvl90 xq

seems it's a 5.5% increase to his personal dmg, in between the atk increase and enemy def multiplier

[jolly junco]

i wonder if people are going to try and force ayato hyperbloom on his rerun even though he has plenty of good non-dendro teams

[narrow folio]

But hyperbloom

[lyric cargo]

I wanted to pull him the last time he ran

now I picked up too many hydro units already

[jolly junco]

ayato hyperbloom is good, if you have Nahida

otherwise forget about it

[jolly junco]

he's the most enjoyable playstyle wise imo

and works well with lots of the hydro off-fielders

[lyric cargo]

I'm kinda interested to see how he is with Bennett + Furina + Jean

[narrow folio]

I don't know if there's anyone I wanna pull on their rerun

After Navia I'm just gonna be saving I guess

[jolly junco]

I really dont think bennett is gonna be worth running over an off-fielder like fischl or yelan

[lyric cargo]

sad

[jolly junco]

fischl in particular works very well with ayato since their uptimes synergise (~25s rotations)

or a bit longer in some cases

[narrow folio]

Lyney, Yae, or Scara

Those are all in the maybe pile

[lyric cargo]

I figured multiplying the largest buffs would be good, though you'd also be buffing less units

[lyric cargo]

maybe I'll pull Zhongli or Baizhu at some point
still not sure whether to do the latter before his current banner ends

[narrow folio]

I'm missing 16 characters and 13 of them are male

They just haven't released one that I'm interested in

[copper mist]

If they released a male character that's a cute girl then maybe

Tbf tho Haitham is fast becoming one of my fav chars

I liked his no nonsense smarter than you personality but idk, I pulled him and then kinda left him there

I need to pull his sig tho for sure.

I can't watch him use Mist while holding a Foliar-like sword in his other hand in the combos

[narrow folio]

I think I'm just gonna wait and see what new characters outside of the one's we've seen release

And then make a decision from there

[copper mist]

Yeah I might want Clorinde

[narrow folio]

Arlecchino and Navia

[copper mist]

Navia maybe

Arle and Clorinde really depend on kit tho

If they are fun to play I might get them

I hope they release new 5 star healers too

[lyric cargo]

wonder which elements will get one that works with furina

so far we have dendro, anemo, cryo, hydro

[copper mist]

I hope we get an anemo healer that basically consolidates healing and grouping

Because let's be honest Jean's grouping does not exist

[lyric cargo]

anti-grouping

though you can push one enemy towards others

[jolly junco]

I feel like from a balance perspective this could only be justified if they offer no buffs/other utility outside of just being able to use VV

[copper mist]

Yeah it would be op

[jolly junco]

with shit damage too

[narrow folio]

Would they really release a character like that?

Like realistically

[jolly junco]

Dunno, perhaps

if an anemo character could group and heal well to be balanced they'd need to suck at everything else

[narrow folio]

[untold igloo]

should i build fischl or beidou first? My beidou is c6 but i know fischl is pretty good

[jolly junco]

build fischl first

she's better, more flexible team wise, and often if you wanna use beidou it'll be alongside fischl

[untold igloo]

okay!

[red pulsar]

does elemental skill dmg count for the burst aswell?

[jolly junco]

No

[rich shell]

Hey is there anyone willing to help me catch up on the days I missed for the graph adversarial event by gifting me samples plz?

[jolly junco]

#👥gimshim-coop

[rich shell]

Thank u

[noble vale]

Why the character models gets so bright in the PS5 version, do I have to adjust the brightness in settings? It has for HDR, contrast and normal brightness

Idk if you guys are familiar with console since some of you play PC

[quaint fern]

I've noticed that global illumination makes some colors too bright

Try turning that off

That or try the brightness adjustment in the menu

[noble vale]

Really I didn’t see that option

[quaint fern]

Uuuh idk if global illumination is on ps

[noble vale]

I don’t think so it only has brightness and motion blur/V-Sync I think

[quaint fern]

Try adjusting brightness then

[noble vale]

Alr

[quaint fern]

There's an in game adjustment thing

[noble vale]

I think the option you’ve mentioned has to do with the PC/mobile version

[dusty cape]

yeah there’s not much adjustment u can do for ps graphics besides brightness

[quaint fern]

Settings > graphics > brightness

Should be near the top

@noble vale

[noble vale]

Yeah fr

[noble vale]

Alr

Ngl the PC version is better cuz it has many graphics settings you can choose from

[earnest canyon]

60fps lock on pc in 2023

[noble vale]

Can you run 30fps??? I’m sure of it well I’m going with 60fps anyways

[earnest canyon]

yeah you can but you cant uncap it or set it higher or to a custom fps number like 120 for example

[noble vale]

Ah

[noble vale]

If you have a 40 series graphics card Genshin will look and perform so much better

[earnest canyon]

ehhhh genshin runs well on older cards

[noble vale]

Yeah like the 1060

[earnest canyon]

yeah its not really graphically intensive

[quaint fern]

I can't run global illumination

Still on 1050 ti

[noble vale]

I have to move to PS cuz I couldn’t handle with my current gaming chair it hurts my back shoulder and rear, luckily I have a one seater couch that is comfy

[quaint fern]

Only get stuttering in weird areas

💀 bro bought a gaming chair

Just buy an office chair

[noble vale]

I should have cop one

Also I looked up Zhongli last rerun yep he comes back yearly fn

[earnest canyon]

same here lmao

[noble vale]

I’m at 1060

[rigid river]

Guys how do I unlock this place

[teal rover]

u unlock it in a quest

[rigid river]

Nvm I got the hydrolic by just getting close lol

[teal rover]

[noble vale]

Damn Kaeya is on the very bottom while Zhongli is on the very top

[quaint fern]

8game 💀

[noble vale]

Is Layla/Thoma good shielders for Hu Tao if I need extra protection

[quaint fern]

Thoma for VV vape works

https://keqingmains.com/hu-tao/#VV_Vape

[noble vale]

Yeah is what I saw on YouTube

[quaint fern]

https://youtu.be/R_emGt8TGqY

[hollow quartz]

Artifact help 629850393 America

[noble vale]

Ty!

[lyric cargo]

#👥gimshim-coop

[noble vale]

How can I get more purple books?

[lyric cargo]

the most worthwhile way is the teapot shop

[hallow juniper]

or you can farm leylines

but tht costs resin

[lyric cargo]

yeah, in the long term you'll get enough books without spending resin

[hallow juniper]

ye

[lyric cargo]

so I consider the resin worth more

[lyric cargo]

Realm Depot weekly inventory:

• 60 resin for 1200
• 20x 20k character exp for 2400
• 10x 10k character exp for 600
• 20x 10k mora for 2400
• 20x 20k weapon exp for 2400
• 20x 5k artifact exp for 3600

weekly income: 7 * 24 * 30 = 5040 realm currency

I buy the resin and character exp, and put what's left into mora

5040 - 1200 - 2400 - 600 = 840 = 70k mora

[hallow juniper]

[lyric cargo]

you need teapot lvl 8 to buy the purple ones iirc

[hallow juniper]

sometimes u just need purple books, maybe they dont have the stuff needed to buy things form teapot

[lyric cargo]

yeah, if you can't login and claim every 2 days you can get a lot less

[umbral sedge]

But how cringe are 8game tierlists and tierlists in general

[hallow juniper]

i think its a sheild tierlist ?

idk why yunjin is there tho

[lyric cargo]

Diona on the same tier as Layla is very sus tbh

most of the chars on the list I'd never consider

[hallow juniper]

they're similar in shield strength iirc

[umbral sedge]

It depends™️ on what it is
Shield strength? Synergy? Flexibility?
Too many factors with such a broad "Shield Characters". There are shielder that fit better into certain teams than Zl

[hallow juniper]

it seems like shield strength

or maybe not nvm

[trail nymph]

before I waste any resources, is Cashflow Supervision good for anyone else besides Wriothesley?

[umbral sedge]

[umbral sedge]

C6 buff + healing factor for a Shield Tierlist :surely :

[noble vale]

Too bad I need to level up my trust rank but idk how I can get it done 😭

[quaint fern]

decent stat stick

you can use it in any team but furina enables it on pretty much any dps catalyst

[jolly junco]

statstick for atk scaling catalyst characters
it's slightly better than prototype amber on neuvillette
in teams where you use furina the catalyst can have value on more characters who don't have hp manipulation in their kit naturally

[trail nymph]

better than Sacrificial Jade on Neuvillette when with Furina?

[jolly junco]

no

[proven bronze]

What’s a good Wriothesley and Furina comp?

[umbral sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/charlotte-charlotte-genshin-charlotte-genshin-impact-genshin-charlotte-genshin-impact-charlotte-gif-14806972877519945577

[fallow totem]

how good is furinas weapon?

[fallow totem]

Wrio, Furina, Nahida, Raiden is fun. 3 off field dps/reactions and furina can also heal if need or wrio heals himself

[rustic frost]

How do I do this

[jolly junco]

you're not going to generate many fanfare stacks there pre c2 furina

[umbral sedge]

Arayanka quest -> Play Vintage Lyre

[rustic frost]

Thx

[fallow totem]

who needs fanfair when u have enough dps

[quaint fern]

yeah I just assume 200 fanfare stacks whenever I do my calcs

[jolly junco]

~15% ahead of the next best option(s) for Furina's personal DPS. she is the only character that utilises the passive well

[umbral sedge]

So true Papa George.

[quaint fern]

@proven bronze I'm liking this

[jolly junco]

[umbral sedge]

🍎 🇹

[jolly junco]

not to disrespect your team but doesn't this feel pretty bad to play in AoE? considering no grouping either

[proven bronze]

Ou ok i have to build Mika then xd and Xinqiu would Yelan be a viable replacement for Xinqiu?

[jolly junco]

yes

[tame timber]

where to go for today's subject

[proven bronze]

Atk spd + Dmg > AOE jk jk lol my scara team has little AOE control(unless you count Faruzan as AOE) but they shred enemies and he switches targets pretty quick🏃🏻

[jolly junco]

at C6 faruzan does actually help quite a lot with consolidating AoE on wanderer

pressurized collapses pull enemies close enough together you can cleave with his normal attacks more consistently

[proven bronze]

Yea true dat but not enough Kazuha to go around for every comp🥲

[jolly junco]

I don't have wrio so it's not like I can playtest or provide testimony of any teams from experience, but for a wrio + furina team I'd try wrio, kazuha, furina, charlotte and wrio, furina, shenhe, jean

[proven bronze]

I was thinking Wrio, Furina, Char or Mika + Kaz or Venti(a grouper)

The only thing is who’s a better support between char and mika

[jolly junco]

venti's burst can lift enemies too high for wrio's normals to hit them, so I've been told

at least some enemies

[proven bronze]

Oh I don’t have venti but he’s my next character to pull

I didn’t know that though either so maybe I’ll just keep skipping him

But between Charlotte and Mika who’s more of a viable support I don’t have shenhe but I wanna fulfil cryo Res

[jolly junco]

they're likely similar from a damage standpoint unless you can build enough ER on charlotte to run TTDS, in which case she'd be better

[quaint fern]

Yeah but rizzly is pretty single target anyways soooo...

I just haven't gotten around to testing a Kazuha team. I probably should

Then again... I have other teams to use in more aoe scenarios like ganyu and ayaka

Oh nilou bloom counts too

actually, I should try moving xq and mika positions

more time for furina to drain hp if I put mika 3rd

[spiral mantle]

is Yoimiya - Yelan - Yun Jin - Layla viable (bcs I don't have ZL)

[umbral sedge]

Yeah it's viable

[spiral mantle]

alrr

[reef comet]

His attacks are still aoe anyway, you just need kazuha

[quaint fern]

shorely kazuha can cryo swirl in that team

[reef comet]

Surely

[neon harness]

shoreleigh

[north stump]

For Mono Hydro, do you have to use Everlasting Moonglow for Kokomi?

[quaint fern]

:ballscant:

just use amber

[haughty lotus]

Use it if you have it. If you don’t, congratulations

[olive isle]

you had the strawberry donut, i had the matcha donut, we're not the same

[spiral mantle]

which

[tall oak]

Does anyone know what quest is this?

[copper mist]

The one on the right

[spiral mantle]

shame its not em tho bcs i use her in a vape

[copper mist]

Attack is still better in vape teams

Most of the time

[spiral mantle]

ic

[copper mist]

Especially if you use Bennett on Instructor or something

[tall oak]

Anyone?

[spiral mantle]

sadly am not

[haughty lotus]

Depends on if you have a lot of EM subs or not

[copper mist]

Nah the attack one is gonna be better on like 90% of builds

[olive isle]

Apocalypse Lost questline

[haughty hawk]

:3

[haughty lotus]

No it’s not lol

[copper mist]

The subs on the em one are too meh

And em sands already starts from a worse point

[spiral mantle]

77 em w/o sands

[tall oak]

do u know where it is?

[copper mist]

You can put it into the optimizer

If you want to see the precise difference

[spiral mantle]

akasha comparison

[haughty lotus]

Assuming equal substats, EM Sands is around 5% better than ATK% in Vaporize teams.
Kqm

[copper mist]

Oh is rust

[olive isle]

start the fallen falcon, which should be a visible world quest in tanit camps, then find all the chess pieces.

[copper mist]

Is the team on the right also the team you use?

[spiral mantle]

i use yelan yun jin bennett

[copper mist]

Ok then there is a good chance em sands is better then

[spiral mantle]

alr

[copper mist]

But you can just optimizer to be sure

Seems still weird to me why akasha would prefer em sands so much tho like what

Especially in a team without bennett

Idk what kinda black magic they use to calc stuff

[neon harness]

@haughty lotus can’t decide wether or not I like it

[haughty lotus]

Hot

[neon harness]

Nu u

[lofty badger]

whats the maximum CV you can get on an artifact? (excluding mainstats)

[neon harness]

54 or 56 I forgor

[haughty lotus]

EM sands is already 5% better than atk% and they are using rust so it’s already a lot of ATK

54.4 or something

[copper mist]

Hmmge

[lofty badger]

how much damage is multiplied when you melt a frozen enemy

[olive isle]

2.0x base, forward melt

[lofty badger]

wdym by forward melt

[olive isle]

forward melt, 2.0x base, apply pyro on cryo, strips full cryo application
reverse melt, 1.5x base, apply cryo on pyro, strips half pyro application

[lofty badger]

not when i melt an enemy thats having a cryo application

im talking about when i melt an enemy thats frozen

or is it the same?

[copper mist]

The same

Frozen is indeed a status but it behaves like a cryo aura

[olive isle]

it's the same, it's just that enemy is hit with cryo but can't move at all

[lofty badger]

ah alright

i was just thinking about a frozen melt diluc team, would that work?

[copper mist]

No

[lofty badger]

so just focus on the melt itself?

[copper mist]

Yeah

[lofty badger]

how many dendro cores can exists it one time?

[copper mist]

Up to 6 I think

But you don't really want to stack them beyond two either way

Enemies can only take damage from dendro cores two times in a certain timeframe

[lofty badger]

why? doesnt that what bloom teams for

[tall oak]

I can't find it

[lofty badger]

oh.

[copper mist]

Hyperbloom teams work because you continuously proc cores with off field electro

So you basically never get situations with 2+ cores on the ground

Basically the same thing for burgeon but with Pyro

And Nilou makes cores explode faster

And normal bloom teams are garbage because of that time rule and their damage kinda sucks anyway

[noble vale]

Hey is this world quest for the new area?

[quaint fern]

pahsiv

[copper mist]

pahsiv

[noble vale]

What that mean?

[spiral mantle]

do you think furina yoimiya is viable

[copper mist]

It kinda works

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lofty badger]

maybe idk

[copper mist]

It's... Not amazing

[lofty badger]

i heard yoimiya and ayatoes synergizes well

[spiral mantle]

ik bcs yoimiya doesnt fluctuate hp

[lofty badger]

so i think something like

yoimiya
ayatoes
healer flex
furina

[quaint fern]

that might be the marker? i randomly ran into the quest while doing my exploration

[copper mist]

That's not why

[quaint fern]

no

[lofty badger]

yes

[quaint fern]

problem is that yoimiya really wants an atk buffer like yunjin, bennett, etc.

[spiral mantle]

ik

[lofty badger]

oh.

[noble vale]

F it I’ll go start and find out if is related

[copper mist]

Yj does not buff attack

[lofty badger]

how about idk bennett??????????