📌gimshim-help

[pearl girder]

It's been a long while since i played the game. I forgot all the nuances to fishing... Is there like a video guide for it? I need a refresher.. whenever i look up guides, it's just guides for the catch or the new sword

[swift crown]

💀how chamber 1 left my first half team

[haughty lotus]

[swift crown]

idk how they lost so much hp

there was some effect on them but i didnt rly bother checking

and somehow they ended up like this

[haughty lotus]

some rods making catching fish easier, not much else than that

[haughty lotus]

lector probably

[pearl girder]

How bout baits n shit?

[swift crown]

😭 what did he do to them

[haughty lotus]

these are the baits needed to catch the fish for the weapons: #📌gimshim-help message

other than that you can find what they need on the wiki

[pearl girder]

Okay thank you

[neon harness]

yes

[minor gale]

yo guys, how do i use baizhu for dendro application?

[swift crown]

YELAN AND RAIDEN ARE NOT ENOUGH FOR 2 OF THEM TOGETHER 😭😭

[neon harness]

eq or qe, na for onfield driver

[minor gale]

alr ty

[keen condor]

do i need electro to fight the Triangle in the abyys

[rugged sparrow]

preferably

[narrow folio]

You don't but it makes your life easier

[feral forge]

is floor 12 real tuff this time?

[quaint fern]

uuuh looks fine on paper

NA issues so I haven't gotten it yet

[lyric cargo]

haven't tried it yet. first half is multiple waves with pyro shield breaking?
might need to choose the team for it carefully

second side looks like any well invested single target focused team can do it

[gritty hearth]

are er sands rare to get? ive only gotten 1 with about 2-3k resin but i need to get another w better stats

[lyric cargo]

yeah, 10% of sands will have that mainstat

[gritty hearth]

i am not getting that er sands upgrade anytime soon

[lyric cargo]

which char is it for? using an ER weapon may be easier at least at first

[gritty hearth]

furina , i need to get one w more cr so i can get to 70 cr

it kept rolling into em and but its the only main stat er time piece i have atm

[lyric cargo]

ah. tbh the sands isn't bad if she can trigger vaporize

[gritty hearth]

mm true , ill just see what i can do w her team comps n stuff

[lyric cargo]

if you could change the plume to one that's more weighted towards crit rate that'd be good

[bitter geode]

Can u guys give me all the best golden troupe user?

[gritty hearth]

yeahh , hopefully i can get one tho , this artifact domain hates me

[lyric cargo]

good amount of substats, but it's pushing her crit ratio in the wrong direction

[gritty hearth]

ah

im probably gonna farm tmmr for artifacts again so

hopefully i can get a better replacement then

[lyric cargo]

actually the goblet is where you could more easily fix the ratio without losing too much quality

[gritty hearth]

true , i could hopefully loose the atk as its useless to her

tyty

[lyric cargo]

or just something like this

[gritty hearth]

yeahh i could try n go for something like that , it would balance out my cr

but i hope i can get a er substat w it too as my er would drop under 160 if there isnt

[fallow yoke]

heyo should i give hu tao em goblet or pyro dmg bonus goblet

her em is 0

[haughty lotus]

EM sands, pyro goblet

[fallow yoke]

if i use em sands the hp will go down to 27K

i dont have furina yet so i cant do hydro res

[keen condor]

bruh i have like 2 er sands and one is rlly shit

[haughty lotus]

27k hp vs 0 EM, its pretty obvious which is significantly better

[fallow yoke]

or use db instead? is that a choice?

[haughty lotus]

what weapon are you using now

[fallow yoke]

homa r1

[rugged sparrow]

just go EM sands

[fallow yoke]

ok then

[lyric cargo]

not sure how many of mine I'd count as good

the noblesse one is alright for benny since after ER there isn't much to go for besides hp%

[bitter geode]

Rate this Future Yelan build

[quaint fern]

Senk enka card instead

[haughty lotus]

that gives very little information

[quaint fern]

Or can you put the build into optimizer with lvl 90 yelan?

Quite hard to tell actually stats without her real base HP and ascension stats

But I can already say

[rugged sparrow]

first impression is just: ER wherege

[quaint fern]

You don't have enough energy u less you plan to run favge

Even with favge it's probably too little

[bitter geode]

I'm planning to use favonius and double hydro with her

[rugged sparrow]

ic

[bitter geode]

Should be enough right?

[rugged sparrow]

depends on the 2nd hydro ig

if Sac Xq, should be more than enough

but as always, consult to ERC
and post the build via Enka if anything to see the artifact quality

[quaint fern]

Even then, it'll be hard to visualize actual hp

[bitter geode]

Ok, wait

[rugged sparrow]

what's that amount of EM from subs Jesus

only 28 useful rolls total, kinda meh

[bitter geode]

Dont ask

[bitter geode]

Vape maybe, just maybe

[rugged sparrow]

[bitter geode]

But I'll say that's good enough, the goblet is the biggest problem

[rugged sparrow]

circlet can be better too, it's 4 useful subs total

set aside that your cdmg rolls are both max rolls

flower is... kinda sad ig, 5 rolls total

[keen condor]

my best one has 12 cd and 6cr

[umbral sedge]

[keen condor]

and the only other sands i have has 10 cd and nothing else usefull its emblem tho so better than nothing

[bitter geode]

What's a good one then?

[lavish arch]

what is this called?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean a good one would be better artis

[keen condor]

anyways against the big traiangle Yoimiya yelan zhongli fishl or kuki?

[rugged sparrow]

that's just a place where you can restore genie's power

[keen condor]

or do i not need electro

[rugged sparrow]

Fischl

[keen condor]

oh the racist lamp right?

[lavish arch]

wat genie power?

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[umbral sedge]

~~Desert branch tornado genie hat recharge station ~~

[keen condor]

Kk thx

[rugged sparrow]

do the world quest

[rugged sparrow]

electro isn't needed, but if you struggle to clear in time, it can help a lot

[lavish arch]

u mean the lamp that talked?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[lavish arch]

i have it

[keen condor]

prolly better than xinque so all use her

[lavish arch]

wat do i do now?

[rugged sparrow]

yes you go there to recharge its power if needed

[lavish arch]

how to use its power?

[rugged sparrow]

u dont need to do anything? it's literally there to recharge its power

you use its power to dispel winds on the region

[bitter geode]

How many good roll

[rugged sparrow]

u see wind spheres > use its power

[lavish arch]

ohh ok ok

[rugged sparrow]

I like to set my baseline at 30 good rolls for DPS in general

[lavish arch]

tysm!!!

[bitter geode]

👍

[keen condor]

what would be beter for this abyss a halfasses build nuvi or a well build ayatoes top half

[rugged sparrow]

try both and decide it yourself

[keen condor]

imagine a cr circlet with 20 cd also lv 7 na

my nuvi is so well built tbh

[rugged sparrow]

despair

[keen condor]

ive been farming hunter from the day i got lyney

how rare is a em goblet

asking for a friend

[keen condor]

i need a on set goblet for kazu fuck

[bitter geode]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[lyric cargo]

yeah, triple EM mainstats take quite a while
thankfully I finished strongboxing VV before emblem strongbox came out

didn't get a VV flower or plume with good em subs in the process though

this my Kazuha's 47em flower n_n

[jolly junco]

abyss time

[lyric cargo]

gl

[jolly junco]

thanks

[copper mist]

Is it new rotation

[jolly junco]

yes

[copper mist]

Wee

[jolly junco]

first abyss reset of a new version is always an abyss update

[keen condor]

i just want a em goblet so i cant swap kazuhas sands with xianglings

Becuase having 250 er is more comfortable

[copper mist]

Way too much

Just roll more ER subs

[haughty lotus]

your kazuha build is automatically bad if you use ER sands

[keen condor]

idk it dosent feel like enough er

one sec

[lofty badger]

give me a viable tighnari team

[haughty lotus]

tighnari nahida yae fischl

[keen condor]

er sands helps with bursting ever rotation

cope circlet ik but what can i do about it

[copper mist]

Ohhh freedom sworn... Then yeah Ig

[lofty badger]

what happens if i dont have yae nor nahida

[keen condor]

Also isnt er sands similar to atk sands for xiangling?

[haughty lotus]

you send your character list because there is no way for me to know who you have

[lyric cargo]

sad flower :[

[copper mist]

Depends on how much your Xiangling needs

Reaching ER req > anything else basically

[keen condor]

cope

[copper mist]

If your Xiangling doesn't need that much ER then ER is useless

[keen condor]

i dont have alot of time to funnel into her that why i need the extra er // is it a big dmg loss?

[haughty lotus]

do you have fischl?

[lofty badger]

thats the fun part

i dont

[wanton pawn]

which should i use?

[haughty lotus]

you're pretty much doomed then, just wait until you get her then play tighnari lisa fischl sayu

[lofty badger]

obviously the one on the lef-

wait is that dori

[wanton pawn]

yes

[lofty badger]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-22260074

[wanton pawn]

this set also is swapped with wriot if i really need to punch something

[copper mist]

Yeah you can Ig

ER does boost your damage somewhat with Emblem

[wanton pawn]

main reason is that im already seeing people do abyss and floor 12 team 2 is favoring electro/dendro teams

so i might finally get a lineup where dori will work

[lofty badger]

7 damage crit hit surely

[wanton pawn]

yours probly mine wont

[lofty badger]

devastation

[keen condor]

with a er sands how much will it boosts i forgot emblems 4pc

[copper mist]

Bro I don't know everything

[ripe robin]

how does hunter compare to husk on noelle with furina in the team?

[copper mist]

Oof that's hard but my guess is it's better

[gray oxide]

take the amount of ER and * 25% it

[ripe robin]

no er

[keen condor]

so 25% of 250 so around 100% dmf bbuff

[copper mist]

[copper mist]

Not even close

[wanton pawn]

team will be Furina, DMC, Nahida, Dori
dori's burst+skill also give butloads of recharge

so i dont need to focus on it

[haughty lotus]

you are tanking damage by putting dmc

[copper mist]

They use Marechaussee Dori

[ripe robin]

instead of dmc you could put fischl, she would be nice

[gray oxide]

my man that is a 62.5% Q dmg bonus

[wanton pawn]

hmm. . . .

[keen condor]

wait i cant do math

[wanton pawn]

does fischl need to crit?

ah ill just give her dori's old set then

sadly no

[ripe robin]

giving fischl the leftovers!

well she actually does nice even when she uses leftovers

[keen condor]

so im 50 er away from maxing it out

[wanton pawn]

waits for enka to update

. . . wow i have NOT lved fischl's skills in forever

they still lv 7

c6

techically is 10

ah finally it updated

fischl with dori's old set

[haughty lotus]

4pc tf doesn’t really do much on her so you can get better with another 2pc set

[wanton pawn]

an atk% or EM set?

or perhaps GT

[haughty lotus]

Yeah

[copper mist]

Gt yea

[haughty lotus]

Also level 90 her is good for aggravate

[lucid sedge]

Who would you suggest for the archon team if I'm lacking nahida?

[wanton pawn]

will do that tomarrow when the resin is back

[haughty lotus]

Well there is literally only 4 options at that point lol

[wanton pawn]

DMC, Collie, YaoYao. . . .

Tighnari?

[ripe robin]

furina raiden kazuha, then you can add a flex char after that

[haughty lotus]

Are they archons?

[wanton pawn]

oh wait i was thinking dendro replacements

[lucid sedge]

Does it have to be a dendro?

[ripe robin]

no

[lucid sedge]

Just asking who will go along zhong raiden furina

[ripe robin]

benny or jean would do^

[haughty lotus]

You need a teamwide healer, also zhongli doesn’t really do anything there

[wanton pawn]

Noelle

[lucid sedge]

Thanks y'all

[ripe robin]

Archon team is all about the aesthetic not efficiency

[haughty lotus]

It’s not even 4 archons so why bother

[wanton pawn]

then if you dont got nahida or venti put traveler there

[lucid sedge]

Well I pulled for them so why not use lol

[haughty lotus]

Use them in your other team

[ripe robin]

True but it is still three archon in one team kinda of asthetic

[haughty lotus]

[wanton pawn]

tbh i didnt even want zhongli but got him to c2 becasue i wanted c6 noelle

since i have him i built him and left him with his osmanthus wine

[ripe robin]

did you get gorou c6 and yunjin c6 for her

[wanton pawn]

gourou isnt c6 still and im annoyed

yunjin tbh gets left out as i put albeido + a flex slot depending on the enemies

[rotund saddle]

whats a good % of crit rate for yelan?

[wanton pawn]

most would say 1:2 stuff but in general i think 70%

[rotund saddle]

Cool thank you

[bitter geode]

How much of a difference does a c0 and c6 Gorou do for Itto?

[wanton pawn]

"+40% crit damage"

on top of the damage he already assists with

[jolly junco]

should be around a 10% difference in team DPS (itto, albedo, gorou, flex)

(from c0-c6 gorou)

[novel charm]

In team of furina neu jean, do i needthe characters to be low hp first before using furina ult>jean ult for max fanfare?

[jolly junco]

yes

for the first rotation you just won't start with as many fanfare stacks

[novel charm]

Ack so this team good for abyss or not? Since the low hp requirement

[jolly junco]

it's pretty good yes

[keen condor]

i need a dps archon like fully hypercarry 0 support capabilities 0 off field dmg hope the pyro achon does that

[jolly junco]

I use kazuha over jean because my furina is c2 so I get 400 fanfare quickly even without healing

[craggy siren]

In the first rotation, you can still use furina's burst, neuvi will gain fanfare stacks for you, from 2nd rotation you can gain a burst of stacks with jean's healing

[jolly junco]

of course you still use furina's burst..

[wanton pawn]

should i try to get more crit damage?

this domain is anoying =3=

[keen condor]

Aim for 70 140 ig

[umbral belfry]

You could fodder all your golden troupe artifact for a better one

not circlet mb

[wanton pawn]

making do for now as i keep getting the stats i want on the MH set =3=

[frozen obsidian]

What's my best Furina team here? Freeze w/ Ganyu/Jean/Layla?

[craggy siren]

You could run a mono hydro team with furina xingqiu yelan jean too

[frozen obsidian]

Oh yeah, that was actually pretty nice to run as well

[jolly junco]

freeze ganyu without grouping?

[frozen obsidian]

I don't play freeze ganyu, so I'm not sure how much she needs grouping 😅

[wanton pawn]

mayhaps lynette for the grouping via taunt

[craggy siren]

Maybe ganyu furina charlotte kazuha?

[jolly junco]

quite a lot, especially because her burst is pseudo-quadratic scaling

[wanton pawn]

its sounds dumb but if kazu is needed on another team it could work

[haughty lotus]

I’d run mono hydro then yae aggravate or meltyu on the other side depending on the content

[frozen obsidian]

Does that mean if I do that, then I'll have to switch ganyu to off-field?

[jolly junco]

what would work better is not using freeze ganyu then

[craggy siren]

You can still run dps ganyu, the freezes could maybe make up for the lack of ir?

[frozen obsidian]

Okay. I like that Furina opened up other team comps for me to use.

Now if I can only get her ER somewhere serviceable and an on-set 5* hp goblet, then she'd be fine.

Oh wait.. if I'm doing mono hydro, then her ER is fine as-is 😅

[craggy siren]

Technically, her artifact stats and sets would affect her personal dmg, so if you use her for the dmg buff, er would be the only thing you need to care about

[ripe robin]

180 er is the point of which Furina's er is enough overall right?

[reef comet]

though some teams require more but yes

like atleast 200er as solo

[lyric cargo]

I.. guess I can still use it. Maybe in teams where Furina triggers vaporize

[rugged sparrow]

painge

just throw it to Fischl

[lyric cargo]

maybe

[reef comet]

imagine hp being atk, actual fischl piece

[fast vortex]

how does charlotte's first-person shutter even work i dont get it

[lofty badger]

is there any good f2p weapons for diluc..

[reef comet]

prototype

[pulsar zinc]

characters that can benefit hunter set through furina?

[keen condor]

all of them

Expect off fielders ig

[craggy siren]

characters that normal or charge attack would benefit more from the 2 piece i guess

[lofty badger]

can i use shimenawa or is something else better for him?

[reef comet]

crimson

[keen condor]

His best is crimson

[craggy siren]

don't use shimenawa diluc

you're gonna lose out on his burst

[lofty badger]

ah yes i forgot

alright then

any examples of diluc team comp?

[pastel zealot]

why do ppl say inazuma is the most primogem rich region?
is it because of chests or quests

[keen condor]

Who says that

[pastel zealot]

idk i asked some ppl

[craggy siren]

diluc venti bennett xingqiu

but how do you not have xingqiu

[keen condor]

THATS WHY I COULDENT FIND HIM

[copper mist]

Doubt it is, think Sumeru and Fontaine (when all areas are out) will beat Inazuma

[lofty badger]

lmfao i do wonder womders why i dont have sucrose, fischl, or xinqiu yet...

[lofty badger]

melt could work yes yes?

[craggy siren]

maybe

[keen condor]

deluic rosaria kyea benny

[copper mist]

🤨

[lofty badger]

also venti sometimes just picks up enemies using his burst

[craggy siren]

chatting

[copper mist]

deluic

[keen condor]

idk best i could do

[lofty badger]

oh, how about diluc kaeya/rosaria charlotte bennett?

[keen condor]

2 healers?

[lofty badger]

bennett does not count smh

oh wait uh i think that does not work

[keen condor]

[copper mist]

He does

[keen condor]

bennet did over 700k healing for my team last abyss

[lofty badger]

but charlotte's cryo application is just too good to pass on

[keen condor]

who said that

[rugged sparrow]

it's Sumeru

[lofty badger]

every person that have charlotte in their character archive

[keen condor]

kayea rosaria has alot of cryo application

[pastel zealot]

hmm
imma ask based on personal experience?

[lofty badger]

only if you have their burst

[keen condor]

i tried her its not alot its like once every 2 or 2.5secs

[copper mist]

Well you can tho lol

What's stopping you from getting their burst

[keen condor]

fav+er sands // even that is overkill

[craggy siren]

most characters in this game do well if they have their burst

[lofty badger]

ehhh

[rugged sparrow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vQW2225OF4UD_CTCCPUmC38dsa10KhqXQJEuyAhoX0EQ6zJEjek5HfjRVRUmHacuzLNgMqxUehv2AHU/pubhtml# literally documented here

[keen condor]

also double cryo helps get thier burst up

[copper mist]

Her app at C6 seems pretty good

[lofty badger]

oh?

[pastel zealot]

i see
thank you

[copper mist]

But base application just what you would expect

[keen condor]

its once every 6 secs iirc

[lofty badger]

hmm...

[rugged sparrow]

Inazuma barely hits 1k chests while Sumeru is close to hitting 1,5k

[lofty badger]

this looks solid tbh

[keen condor]

semeru is too big for its own good

[lofty badger]

alright then

[rugged sparrow]

Sumeru is the biggest region by far yeah

[lofty badger]

what should i build on each character? (except diluc and bennett)

[craggy siren]

er and crit

[keen condor]

Er and crit

[lofty badger]

both for kaeya and rosaria?

[keen condor]

do you have fav sword and lance?

[lofty badger]

certainly do

[keen condor]

go cryo goblet er sands and crit circlet usally cr

[keen condor]

because u wanna trigger fav

[keen condor]

refinements help alot

[lofty badger]

eh i need some for dmc and another character

[keen condor]

doubke cryo plus two fav youll always have your burst when using like one skill

[keen condor]

np

[lofty badger]

alright so i build eosf on both yes yes?

[keen condor]

Uhhh wait

eosf on rosaira and

and idk bout kayea

[copper mist]

Noblesse

[lofty badger]

holy shit right off the bat

[copper mist]

Instructor on bennett

[lofty badger]

excuse me what

[zealous ledge]

I had always thought this server is the official Genshin Impact discord server

But I was recently invited to the actual official one

[rugged sparrow]

[zealous ledge]

Wasn’t the official one “full” or something for a while?

[rugged sparrow]

it was, until they raised the cap iirc

[zealous ledge]

And was this server created because the official one was full?

[rugged sparrow]

not entirely sure

[reef comet]

genshin is fucked for me rn, constantly 200ms is literal hell to play with

[spare garden]

Is this good enough on Raiden?

I don't have raiden yet

[rugged sparrow]

sending an enka card might be a better idea

[copper mist]

CV seems low

Is this with ER weapon?

[round crescent]

Help how 🥹

[rugged sparrow]

isn't there a mirror you can enter

or have you not done Book of Esoretic Revelations quest

[primal cypress]

Need a team for first half 12-1 pls

[near prism]

I'm fairly sure this server is an official genshin server that was made because there were too many people in the main server

[strange marsh]

can i cancel story quest ?

[reef comet]

you can't

[ripe robin]

no but you can keep from doing it.

[spare garden]

I don't have raiden yet, this is on faruzan

I have R5 the catch

[lyric cargo]

I recommend just taking a screenshot rather than using the image export btw, it looks a lot nicer

[strange marsh]

yea but it sucks cause im kinda stuck on it and i cant do online co-op if i dont beat it

[ripe robin]

well then in that case you might have to do it, unfortunately

[strange marsh]

nvm im the best did first try

[copper mist]

Yeah what does that have to do with crit being low?

[spare garden]

Oh my bad

I replied to wrong message

What's the average ratio on Raiden

[small blade]

Try to get around 70/140 with the catch passive

[spare garden]

Alright

[sick quarry]

I need help killing bosses for achievements (dm if you want to help me, I’ll give id)

[cursive dagger]

What would be the best artifact stats for Furina, just got her and I have lots of golden troupe artifacts to go through

[small blade]

#👥gimshim-coop

[narrow folio]

Golden Troupe HP/HP/Crit

[olive isle]

er or hp/hp/crit

[small blade]

ER/HP sand, HP goblet pre c2, Crit circlet.
Statwise ER until Req> HP=Crit

[olive isle]

if solo furina, unless 200+ er from substats and weapons, you will want er sands

[cursive dagger]

No constellation btw

I plan on getting her weapon as well

[small blade]

Her constellations provide more value

[olive isle]

then er sands is needed

[cursive dagger]

For the drip lol

[small blade]

Valid

[narrow folio]

Good luck

[cursive dagger]

I'll go for constellation next time

[olive isle]

yes, i hope you don't get the donut

(no one talks about my donut)

[narrow folio]

Normally it's the other way around, considering this weapon banner anyway

[cursive dagger]

I hope so tooo

[hot python]

if all this goes into crit would it work on furina

[velvet inlet]

lel lose 50/50 to bronya yesterday now i got this from standard

[olive isle]

you can roll an hp sands or an hp goblet, but man idk about hp circlet

[hot python]

nvm it sucked

[lyric cargo]

one main stat is about as much as 8 max-roll substats
if you don't have a crit circlet, I'd use it for now. If you do, the optimizer can tell you which is better

[olive isle]

get e1 bronya and surely you're getting skill point neutral even spamming the skill

[hot python]

[velvet inlet]

well...

[cursive dagger]

Would a hydro goblet be better than hp

Talking about furina

[velvet inlet]

only if brat are at c2 or not using key

but the different are very small anyway just use the one you have better sub stat

[cursive dagger]

What's key?

[lyric cargo]

nilou signature

[cursive dagger]

Yeah I'll be doing that for now because my artifacts are bad anyway

[lyric cargo]

her passive caps at 40k hp

[cursive dagger]

I'll be going for the signature but for now I'll use my favonius

[lyric cargo]

c1, c2, c3 are all a bigger increase than her sig afaik

[zealous ledge]

I see. The cap was raised though

[summer wraith]

How do I prevent xingqiu from freezing me in 12-3 coppelia?

[rugged sparrow]

just deal with it, he only freezes himself once during skill cast anyway

[noble belfry]

This good i used her in abyss till 10th floor i need to get artifacts

[rugged sparrow]

unless you'd rather not have energy at all

[summer wraith]

Problem: sac sword...

[lyric cargo]

you got fav?

[summer wraith]

Ye but it's r2 plus I am told r5 sac better if double hydro charas

[lyric cargo]

hydro chars do get more energy from sac, yeah

while fav would benefit your non-hydro teammates more

I sometimes switch between the two based on the situation

[rugged sparrow]

well, deal with it then

[summer wraith]

Welp rip

[rugged sparrow]

or dodge their attacks so you don't get cryo aura on you

mainly from Coppelius since he's the one who applies cryo

[lyric cargo]

like if opponents have shields, neither can proc.
Against a pyro abyss mage, I'd use his skill to break the shield and then fav can proc after.
with sac, the chance to proc is already gone if I use the skill to shieldbreak

[hot python]

should i swipe?

[summer wraith]

Up to ya ... But that pipe weapon and festering desire are alr good enough tbh...

[hot python]

dont have festering

[craggy siren]

If you can afford it, swipe. If you don't, fish for the fleuve

[lyric cargo]

you wished on this weapon banner? D:

[olive isle]

fish for the fleuve, furina paradise

[hot python]

i can...if i fast like jesus for the next 3 weeks

[hot python]

was around 60 ish pity might aswell

[lyric cargo]

when the second weapon is bad, I'd rather keep my pity and wait for a rerun

[narrow folio]

[short adder]

is this good for neuvi?

[rugged sparrow]

that EM subs tho

[lyric cargo]

when you finish at 7:00 and it forces you to start over n_n

[rugged sparrow]

but looks good, couls be better overall

[lyric cargo]

crit ratio looks great

is he with furina? hydro resonance will help his hp

[short adder]

how about this one for furina?

[short adder]

yes

[lyric cargo]

circlet and flower could be improved

try to aim for a 1:2 crit ratio

[narrow folio]

Are you playing Rational?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, yelan rational second side

12-3-1 ate my time

[rugged sparrow]

time to try new abyss

[lyric cargo]

imo it's one of the rare abysses where it actually feels good to play, when they spam bosses on one side

[lusty tulip]

the new abyss is so ez

[lusty tulip]

true

[rugged sparrow]

despair

[lyric cargo]

that was me earlier

I only go on PC for abyss, so I often get hit with that

when you realize your venti is on Amos Bow because Fischl took his stringless

[short adder]

apologems incoming

[narrow folio]

Can't relate, don't have Venti and Fischl is on Harp

[lavish arch]

is kaveh a good dendro char for a hyperbloom team with raiden?

[narrow folio]

[lavish arch]

idk... i just got him. i wanna try a good hyperbloom team but dont have good chars...

[reef comet]

kaveh is shit, that is the best answer to all kaveh question

[craggy siren]

Kaveh used to be able to delete teyvat

[lavish arch]

ah... noted

ill just level him up for the free wishes XD

[rugged sparrow]

he's alright in burgeon/Nilou bloom, but kinda meh on hb

[craggy siren]

He could be a budget bloom burster if you don't have nilou too

[lavish arch]

what is a good dendro char for hyperbloom?

[craggy siren]

Worse, but still

[rugged sparrow]

Nahida

[swift forge]

is ayato furina jean bennet good ?

[lavish arch]

any 4 star...?

[rugged sparrow]

it's a functional team alright

[craggy siren]

Dendro mc is okay

[narrow folio]

This is one of the teams of all time, yes

[swift forge]

what team does furina boosts the most ?

[craggy siren]

A lot of them

[narrow folio]

All of them

That's the point of having Furina

[lavish arch]

oh ok!

[rugged sparrow]

except bloom teams

[narrow folio]

Well bloom teams already have Nilou

And they don't scale off of dmg%

[rugged sparrow]

I mean bloom as an umbrella

so it includes hyper/burg

[narrow folio]

Hyperbloomge

[swift forge]

I am tentative on pulling furina for hutao (works but clunky)
and the only other dps team I have is tighnari
ayato's dmg (in abyss) is not that ok

[rugged sparrow]

Furina's rather slow hydro app isn't ideal for bloom-related teams
dmg% is totally wasted too

[narrow folio]

It's not clunky, I don't know where you got that from

[swift forge]

nahhh for me using yao yao team or should I use jean ?

hutao yelan furina jean or yao ?

[narrow folio]

Jean

[swift forge]

ok ok

[tawny vigil]

for c6 furina, is it better to use marechausse

[narrow folio]

Yes

[tawny vigil]

ok thx

[swift forge]

last question does childe use thundering pulse or is it just cope ?

[rugged sparrow]

cope

[narrow folio]

He can though

But other weapons like Harp or obviously Polar are better

[rugged sparrow]

oh I totally misread the question

[craggy siren]

what did you misread it to?

[rugged sparrow]

thought of thundering fury

[narrow folio]

I was about to say, Pulse isn't even that bad on Childe

People used it on him all the time before Polar existed

[reef comet]

fr, i forgot i even have thundering pulse and yoimiya , i would've misread it

[rugged sparrow]

[reef comet]

i'm not proud

she has been like this since i got hutao

maybe i should farm for mh yomia

[small blade]

55% Def in substats

[reef comet]

that circlet couldn't roll better

[narrow folio]

You're getting there, don't give up

[reef comet]

go away yoimia user, i'm sick of emblem and shime domain, it's mh time

[copper mist]

MH is optimal on Yoi in furina team

[narrow folio]

Bolide user btw

[copper mist]

Bolide optimal

[round crescent]

Maybe... ok I'll try thanks

[lyric cargo]

lesson of the day I guess:
New chars that benefit from the blessing > old chars, even if they aren't fully built n_n

multiple attempts, then finished 7:00 and had to re-enter:
Nahida Xq Kuki Kaz
Raiden Yelan Ben Xl

one attempt:
Neuv Furi Jean Kaz
Nahida Xq Kuki Yelan

[rugged sparrow]

that wasn't so bad ig

Icewind Suite as annoying as ever

[lyric cargo]

half-built chars:

[lyric cargo]

remember to actually go back in and claim primos n_n
(I almost forgot)

[rugged sparrow]

already

[astral smelt]

Guys, would a Furina-Noelle-Gouru-Charlotte team work? I'm trying to follow the Kequing Mains Furina Geo Team a try but was wondering if I can do it with only two geos and then Charlotte for the last slot

[rugged sparrow]

Charlotte doesn't really serve a purpose there

better off with Xq or Yelan

[lyric cargo]

afaik Noelle is mostly an on-field healer until you get her constellations

at least prior to furina, she was never recommended to build until c6

[astral smelt]

I have a C6 Noelle

[lyric cargo]

ah

[astral smelt]

On another topic, how exactly does Charlotte's Healing work? I know its her Burst, but when I tried it during the current domain event, I found it lack for some reason

[rugged sparrow]

imagine Jean's healing but the lingering aoe lasts a lot shorter

[astral smelt]

OHHH - so that's why I found it lacking. When I was trying it during the event, I kept wondering how come the healing was too quick.

[violet cipher]

here's the Furina I'm working on. Is this too much ER for the best teams I could use her on? I mean I was planning to use her with Ayaka so I souppose I need er but idk if I need that much

[rugged sparrow]

way too much ER yes

[violet cipher]

kk

[pastel zealot]

im guessing that this team goes beyond insanity
thought I think that kazuha should take on shenhe's slot

[sterile ruin]

amos’ bow, aqua simulacra, or rust for childe?

[rugged sparrow]

Aqua

[dusty cape]

Agua

água

[keen condor]

What team should i do for chamber three nuvi and lyneys builds are still under development

Scratch that lyney is built nuvi isn’t

I three stared chamber one and two

[lofty badger]

im going to suggest something abnormal

[lyric cargo]

I used this. Second half, any good single target team could work

I see you don't have Furina, maybe you can run a different 2x hydro team?

[reef comet]

7 level 90 character, unbelievably whele

[lyric cargo]

two lvl70 weapons though

[keen condor]

Sure

[keen condor]

I’m struggling in chamber 3 I don’t have nahida nor furina

[lofty badger]

fuck i forgot what am i going to say

[keen condor]

[lyric cargo]

what's your best single target team? preferably one that doesn't use the hydro chars you need first half

[keen condor]

Lyney

Mono pyro

[lyric cargo]

my guess for your first half would be Ayato, Xq, Kazuha, healer

[keen condor]

Would yelan be better than xq his build isn’t that good

[craggy siren]

first tried all chambers

[lusty tulip]

Can you guys list Furina + Baizhu teams please?

[lyric cargo]

you need to break the lectors' pyro shields, so I suggested Xq for higher hydro application

Yelan could be fine if her build is better than his

if xq doesn't have constellations his application is lower than usual anyways

[keen condor]

So something like this?

Wait

Replace Barbra with Mona

[lyric cargo]

my preference would be Kazuha first side since that's the harder one for me
you can experiment

[keen condor]

Okay thanks

[lyric cargo]

sad when the hard chamber is 3rd, so you can't just re-enter

[velvet inlet]

okay... just play floor 12 first chamber and mob line up are really evil

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09TQfVKI6wE

no great insights this time, that I can recall

except for ASIMON's first teleport going to the player's starting location in the chamber

[rancid slate]

I need help in forming a good alhaitham team(I'll build the characters later)

[velvet inlet]

no nahida

[rancid slate]

she didn't come home in both of her reruns pls stop reminding me

[velvet inlet]

your best bet should be alhaitham yaoyao raiden furina

[rancid slate]

hyperbloom with furina?

[velvet inlet]

or use kuki instead if you're dying

[velvet inlet]

without nahida spread alhaitham is on par with hyperbloom

[rancid slate]

i don't get it, so are you telling me to use alhaitham spread or hyperbloom

[velvet inlet]

what i recommend is quick bloom team

[rancid slate]

which is this one right?

[velvet inlet]

with furina buff and slower hydro (compare to xingqiu) you will get some bloom but enemy will have quicken aura most of the time

[rancid slate]

is it better to use yelan instead of furina?

[narrow folio]

[velvet inlet]

since you only have yaoyao as dendro support furina buff will be stronger then yelan

[velvet inlet]

mine haven't update yet

[rancid slate]

i'm close to pity and i'm on my guaranteed so i could get baizhu, will he work better than yaoyao?

[velvet inlet]

yes

[rancid slate]

by what margin

[velvet inlet]

baizhu with furina

by a lot

[rancid slate]

but i heard his shield is ass

[velvet inlet]

easier fanfare and comfy shield

[velvet inlet]

dont think of it like zhongli shield

[rancid slate]

just enough so that i won't get tossed around?

[velvet inlet]

baizhu shield is for interrupt resistance

[rancid slate]

but it still blocks damage right?

[velvet inlet]

yep no matter how thin shield is you wont get tossed around

[rancid slate]

neat

i don't have that many 5* supports anyway so why not get another one

[velvet inlet]

he also have buff to quicken and bloom

[faint linden]

I don't what to use don't think I characters are made for this abyss any teams?

[lyric cargo]

this is a bit unfortunate for you. you want hydro first half and a strong single target team second

[velvet inlet]

done

[faint linden]

So a no no

?

[velvet inlet]

hoyolab is not update yet for me tho

[rancid slate]

wait but is getting furina's c1 better than baizhu?

[velvet inlet]

you might have to force to use both kokomi and xingqiu to break pyro shield

[lyric cargo]

maybe Ayaka freeze can handle first half. Ideally I'd want 2x hydro for the pyro shields

[faint linden]

Btw floor 11

[velvet inlet]

that one idk

[lyric cargo]

oh. I don't really recall that

first half had pyro there as well

[faint linden]

Yes

Is taser good?

[lyric cargo]

maybe this can help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09TQfVKI6wE

[lyric cargo]

it's not bad

[faint linden]

I already watched this she used taser and hb

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably run freeze first half, hutao second

[faint linden]

No my hutao is unplayable

She not

[lyric cargo]

since running taser takes up your xq

[faint linden]

I can't play her until I get a PC or something

[lyric cargo]

build her, you want a strong single target team

[lyric cargo]

might be able to get her a shielder, though I prefer playing on pc for Abyss anyway tbh

[faint linden]

[rancid slate]

you have a nice flower

[faint linden]

Thanks

She's not playable until C1 in phone

[reef comet]

use hp sands

[faint linden]

I guess I have type that I don't have a hp goblet near this one I mean I have but it's an off set

Off set basically

Btw so I guess I will play freeze

And hb

Cookie got 952 em

Well I actually would but bec she isn't playable I wanted to hit some numbers cuz with ayaka I can get high numbers basically I build her cuz I wanted to nuke

[narrow folio]

Just a little too much EM, don't you think?

[faint linden]

No she's fine

[narrow folio]

Under 30k HP doesn't seem fine

[faint linden]

Give better hp sands

[lyric cargo]

hydro resonance I guess? (missing Yelan or Furina for that)

[faint linden]

Off set

Wait wrong one wtf

[neon harness]

[reef comet]

should i build jean incase i didn't get dehya

[faint linden]

Should I farm witch to get on set 20 cv pyro DMG goblet as a f2p

[craggy siren]

strongbox instead

[faint linden]

Nah later

It's too much cr

[reef comet]

lol

[faint linden]

I am gonna farm for a certain character

So no no

Guys good luck to me for the abyss bye

[reef comet]

you wanna strongbox shit pieces either way

[faint linden]

Give*

[olive isle]

i am stuck in the dungeon

[opal surge]

Did you guys go 8-8 on furina or 6-9 for talents

[narrow folio]

6/8/8

[velvet inlet]

i went 1/9/6 like a dum dum

[gray oxide]

i will go 1/10/10

gonna prioritize Q

no reason to level NA

[opal surge]

ye i didnt even include NA Im not leveling it either

Should have said 1-8-8 and 1-6-9 I suppose

Im just thinking about going 1-6-9 this week so I can crown burst next

[velvet inlet]

maybe we will see c6 brat enjoyer who want to do 10/10/10 XD

[gray oxide]

even with C6 leveling her NA is kinda useless tbh

not like the piss low attack scaling matters when there is a fixed 43% HP scaling on every hit

[velvet inlet]

tbh if someone willing to spend for c6 that person will triple crown her anyway

[gray oxide]

prob?

[velvet inlet]

[lyric cargo]

I'm doing
7 7 → 8 8 → 8 9 → 9 9 → 9 10 → 10 10

not very informed though, I just heard some sources say level them equally but personally think burst is better

[gritty hearth]

im gonna do 6/8/8 then 6/10/10 when i have the mats/weekly drops

[opal surge]

i went for 8-8 now, finally got the lilys to 90 her today as well

[lyric cargo]

isn't her NA talent atk scaling?

[opal surge]

I really need a better sands

[lyric cargo]

I guess you do have your regular uninvested atk

for 6 hits each rotation at c6

[lavish arch]

I need help plz. Is there any trick to this puzzle? I tried for 20 min straight and I cant hit all 3 simultaneously....

[neon harness]

f12 hopefully isnt that hard

[hallow juniper]

u want the bubble burst to hit the one marked 1 first n then hit 2, 3 etc, w the same bubble, n u can also push the bubbles together to make a big one

[lavish arch]

OMG.... i didnt know u could combine them..

tysm!!

[velvet inlet]

it's not unless you are pyro main

[quaint fern]

literacy solves a lot !!!

[lyric cargo]

first half hydro app to break pyro lector shields. AoE chamber. Neuvilette and Furina are good. (Neuv can line up the lectors without much grouping and break both shields simultaneously)

second half just bring your best single target team

[hallow juniper]

i read the in game tutorial n still didn’t know wtf to do

[neon harness]

i hope double hydro will be enough the kill the chicken, cus ill be running hyperblom, cus of the dorito

[quaint fern]

yeah, it took me like 20 minutes to figure out my first bubble puzzle but they showed that you could combine them

[lyric cargo]

you got 4 hydro chars built?
I used this

[quaint fern]

next few days will be spent on her boss 😔

[lyric cargo]

if you don't have that many hydro, any good single target team will work second side

[neon harness]

same team except its nuevi fischl kaz zhongli

[lyric cargo]

chicken died faster to hyperbloom than to rational. I guess that's Nahida's c2

[neon harness]

i wasnt lucky enough to get furina lmao

[olive isle]

😔

[lyric cargo]

could work

[craggy siren]

Here's mine

[neon harness]

scream1 dioners

got hp card 2 times, not bad

[cursive ore]

Would this team work? Jean, bennett, childe, and xl?

[craggy siren]

you can replace jean with kazuha or sucrose

[cursive ore]

I have neither

[opal surge]

this abyss feels much much tighter on time than the last one was

[cursive ore]

I lost my 50/50 on furina to jean

And the game isnt giving me sucrose

[small blade]

Sunfire might cause some problems. Do you have heizou?

[neon harness]

the hyperblooms still do 14k, its not that bad agaist chicken ig

[cursive ore]

Nope

[small blade]

Tough. Use jean but dont use her burst and try to swirl pyro for vv

[olive isle]

yea, i was just worried about running jean on childe international as it's just too much pyro app

[cursive ore]

Too much pyro app? Isnt that good for childe

[olive isle]

xiangling has no icd, and sunfire just applies pyro every second

[cursive ore]

Whats icd

[craggy siren]

if you wanna run childe as the dmg dealer, you would probably run another buffer instead of xiangling probably

[neon harness]

lesgo, cleared abyss without any retries

[olive isle]

internal cooldown, where it has a time delay before elemental reaction can be triggered

[cursive ore]

Ohh

[olive isle]

standard icd is 2.5 seconds/3 hits

[cursive ore]

Because im relying on vapes to do damage

[olive isle]

xl's pyronado, however, has no ICD

[lyric cargo]

internal cooldown. it regulates how often the same damage source will actually apply its element

[olive isle]

no deaths even?

[neon harness]

😳 no one died

[haughty lotus]

🧐

[neon harness]

still no furina, fml

[olive isle]

grind teapot/tcg primos

[opal surge]

What was the furina hutao team again

Hu tao furina bennet jean?

[neon harness]

im not desperate enough for tcg

[olive isle]

furina, hu tao, xingqiu/yelan, jean/bennett

[haughty lotus]

Replace Bennett with yelan, Bennett would make it a Furina vape team lol

[craggy siren]

Another hydro instead of benny probably

[opal surge]

ah aye

Im guessing that team cant replace jean properly then?

How cope is hutao furina yelan sayu

[haughty lotus]

There are other teamwide healers but jean has vv so she’s the best

[neon harness]

i snif copium no furina anywher

[haughty lotus]

It works but sayus healing is really low

[gritty hearth]

yes but im gonna go for c6 in the future prob

[olive isle]

dw, you can still let the world come alive without furina hehe

[reef comet]

[regal carbon]

Trying to think of a team that Furina could work with, first pic is the one I’m feeling as of now that won’t disturbing my other teams (marked in red)

[neon harness]

Damn too bad kuki and raiden are both crossed out

[regal carbon]

Have Kuki in hyper bloom and raiden in rational which is my least used team these days

[haughty lotus]

You can’t play 3 teams at the same time so I don’t see why they need to be crossed out

[muted bolt]

Where is the thing to do this? I've been walking around for ages...

[opal surge]

Can't U just hit it with traveller/Lynette if Ure not finding it

[neon harness]

I forgot what traveler is aligned with but if it’s the right one, just use traveler

Lynette is dark allined

[opal surge]

I forgor too but traveller and Lynette are opposites

They should cover both

[neon harness]

I forgot the names of the mechanic already lol

[haughty lotus]

Pull Furina 🤪

[neon harness]

😭😭😭I’m trying

[haughty lotus]

Skil isue

[neon harness]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[haughty lotus]

What pity lol

[muted bolt]

what the?!

it's legit not there lmao

[elder bluff]

then I don't know

[muted bolt]

I had no idea I could do that

I don't use hydro mc haha

[lyric cargo]

any char from Fontaine can apply one of the two (pneuma / ousia)

in theory Furina can do both

but she can't switch between them underwater

[craggy siren]

or you can do the super super long quest for the arkhe alignment sword

[lyric cargo]

how does it choose its element?

[reef comet]

Lol, the new abyss isn't hard but how tf am I supposed to play with terrible ping, press changing button 9 times to do so

Rip 50 primogems ig

[haughty lotus]

Skill issue

[reef comet]

I have been defeated

[craggy siren]

Hero's Blade
When the equipping character does not have an Arkhe: When Normal Attacks, Charged Attacks, or Plunging Attacks strike, a Pneuma or Ousia energy blast will be unleashed, dealing 160% of ATK as DMG. This effect can be triggered once every 12s. The energy blast type is determined by the current type of the Sword of Narzissenkreuz.

Chatting

[reef comet]

fuck you, respectfully

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I know that description but not how "the current type" is determined
do you have to visit a location to change it?

[haughty lotus]

Who. Asked.

[reef comet]

Your mom

[haughty lotus]

ok

[craggy siren]

maybe you can change it at the waterfall thingy in annapausis?

[dusty cape]

[reef comet]

Ye, you have to do that

[reef comet]

Smash

[lyric cargo]

they should've made it switch with a charge attack

[neon harness]

so true

My ping started doing weird shit and once I reloaded my nahida was at 2k hp

[reef comet]

Kinda bad way to do so as people love to do CA for absolutely no reason, maybe something like interacting with it in the inventory or an extra button on screen to change the alignment

[craggy siren]

anyone would become budget furina at that point

[reef comet]

Ousia Pneuma or whatever are kinda stupid anyway, just use the alignment block near your neighborhood

[quaint fern]

@neon harness I got fufu

[dusty cape]

[reef comet]

Sussy baka

[small blade]

[dusty cape]

Nu u

[lyric cargo]

I figured it'd be fine if Furina's is

I sometimes press the mouse button for too long on Furina and do a CA, but that just means I have to do a second

[dusty cape]

someone gimme a charlotte

[quaint fern]

Shorely 62/138 is enough on fufu

[lyric cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1107551927169994764/1174742474095333376/image0.png?ex=6568b32f&is=65563e2f&hm=832669384d44b8488dd3c5560c3af6a01eba206698e7a3210a33103a9738792a&

this was somehow good enough to clear abyss

[small blade]

HP sands really hate you

[neon harness]

Fu 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[lyric cargo]

I think it was mainly Neuv being able to break both lector shields at once

[lyric cargo]

I have one with 13cr, but then she's also getting 16cr from the weapon passive..

100 / 110 ratio, anyone? 😄

[craggy siren]

59 pulls into furina's banner now, i can probably get a 5 star by the end of banner, hope i win 50/50

[lyric cargo]

figured since my build is bad I might as well make sure I can burst and get the buff. give her the ER

[quaint fern]

I just got her. Time to spend the next few days grinding her boss....or I could overdose on fragiles

[olive isle]

i have furina, but no furina irl

[lyric cargo]

the real problem is I haven't gotten a good cd circlet tbh

[craggy siren]

sajj

[lyric cargo]

once I get one, I can start fixing her build

[lyric cargo]

I spent 13 on day 1

[craggy siren]

what server are you in icicles?

[quaint fern]

NA why?

[olive isle]

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[craggy siren]

if you were asia, you could get my lilies

[quaint fern]

Eeeh I have people to raid for those

I need boss mats not her flowers

[craggy siren]

i see

[velvet inlet]

[neon harness]

im at 72 pity now, surely surely i can get furina soon

[craggy siren]

50/50 or guaranteed?

[velvet inlet]

dont do abyss like i do

[neon harness]

Perfect timing

Oops didn’t mean to reply

[neon harness]

guarenteed, i got nari back when the banner was first released

[craggy siren]

[olive isle]

you just need 2 friends to jump into others worlds to fight hydro tulpa, then you need at between 600 to 880 resin

[unkempt river]

Should I keep wishing for Baizhu now that I got a guarantee or wait for who? I rlly wanna wish next banner to get Kuki (would she be a good addition?). But I don't think Cyno or Ayato is good for my roster since I alr have tons of Hydro characters.

[reef comet]

Such live changing message

[swift crown]

[neon harness]

73 pity, nothing, cri

[dusty cape]

Next pull trust 😔

[bright holly]

Is hu tao, Furina, yelan and jean like the most optimal hu tao+ Furina team?

[swift crown]

I JUST FOUND OUT THAT ONE OF MY FAVOURITE FANARTISTS IS SELLING THEIR STUFF AT AFASG I NEED TO GO

[rare iron]

yea, XQ over Yelan works too

[reef comet]

New event next few day

[quaint fern]

shorely a furina off piece

I just need a good hp goblet for her that's on set

[copper mist]

Off piece circlet

Ok tbf good onset HP gob prob easier

[swift crown]

WEONG PERSON

[quaint fern]

just worried that the crit rate is too high because there's still ~22 that's not shown from lvl 90 + festering

[swift crown]

👉👈

r u gonna go to afasg

[quaint fern]

oh yeah what healer are peope using for rizzly furina anyways?

jean mika charlotte?

[rugged sparrow]

Charlotte is nice so u can go for Kaz

if Jean ig u can Shenhe, good for sgt

[quaint fern]

because rizzly's field time is so long I was thinking that jean would probably not be the best bc vv doesn't last too long with her

[rugged sparrow]

wot

Rizzley field time is fairly short

[quaint fern]

it's like 14 sec with c1 :huh:

[rugged sparrow]

you dont use all 14s...

[quaint fern]

you don't?

I haven't looked at his rotations tbh

[rugged sparrow]

I usually just 2n5c and swap out to supports again to reset

but ig that depends on who you run him with

[rugged sparrow]

wot...

I don't get this part though, why does Jean VV not last long

it lasts as long as any other unit with VV

[quaint fern]

no but like if you jean e q right after furina, you waste time while swapping to your other cryo right?

unless you move jean e q to right before rizzly?

[rugged sparrow]

Furina EQ > Jean E > 2nd cryo EQ > Jean EQ > Wrio > repeat?

[reef comet]

No, i'm not that into anime

[rugged sparrow]

mfw my Furina is super unoptimized for solo hydro run

can't test this team

welp still cleared anyway

[quaint fern]

yeah I was maybe thinking furina EQ > xingqiu EQ > mika EQ > Wrio?

[rugged sparrow]

where's the anemo...

[quaint fern]

but furina's ER req are abysmal in mono hydro 💀

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[quaint fern]

I don't think you necessarily need anemo but uuuh

I guess I can test later 💀

worst case I just dont use double cryo

which is fine because you can't sustain cryo aura on bosses anyways

[rugged sparrow]

why would you run freeze on 2nd half this abyss anyway

[quaint fern]

just talking about general usage for now 💀

my rizzly is not abyss ready

[rugged sparrow]

😔

[jolly junco]

do you mean solo hydro?

[quaint fern]

uuh yeah that

[jolly junco]

you can just give her favonius if you really need to, she's fine to use solo hydro

abysmal would be like pre c6 faruzan

[fossil gorge]

I got C1 Raiden, C2 Nahida, and Yelan but I don't have Kokomi. Whose the best replacement I can grab for the fish on this team?

[nova swift]

Not as fine as you

[small blade]

Xingqiu if you are doing hyperbloom

[quaint fern]

uuuh actually not too bad if you play wriothesley for his full 14 sec field time

[sacred bridge]

Does Charlotte’s Cryo application match Nahida’s application?

[quaint fern]

if you do 10 sec on field with wrio then burst it looks like this

wait why am I putting two healers 🤦

[rugged sparrow]

how's the first pic not 10s when you have 50% field time Wrio on 20s rot

[quaint fern]

shhh idk the actual field time

field time only changes things by a little anyways smh

my bad, ignore the earlier ones

[small blade]

No

[quaint fern]

I guess I can try those three?

[quaint fern]

wait how would kazuha even work? I cant see you being able to swirl cryo

[rugged sparrow]

you swirl after the enemies are frozen?

[quaint fern]

start with mika hE > kazuha tEp Q > furina EQ > mika Q > rizzly?

because kazuha will preferentially swirl hydro

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

and furina's summons will remain on field when you start 2nd rotation

so that hydro app might interfere with swirl?

idk, I haven't had a chance to play test

[keen willow]

This abyss is so shit

Hutao carry

[rugged sparrow]

I swirl both just fine

Furina EQ > Kaz tE > Charlotte EQ > Kazuha EQ > Wrio stuff

[quaint fern]

hmm yeah I think charlotte has better cryo app than mika

[rugged sparrow]

I can test on Mika too

[quaint fern]

I don't want to build charlotte atm too

three characters in the works simultaneously 💀

[rugged sparrow]

the question is just, do I have Mika's burst ready

[haughty lotus]

You will build and triple crown every cryo whether you like it or not

[quaint fern]

except aloy

[rugged sparrow]

oh I do

[haughty lotus]

[quaint fern]

every time I see overflowing mastery, I think.... do I finally crown shenhe NA this time

[rugged sparrow]

yeah Mika sucks ass

cuz his Q doesn't have cryo app

[quaint fern]

yeah if you want to play mika... forget about using anemo for VV ig

[rugged sparrow]

easier solution: don't use Mika

[quaint fern]

I'll just use mika for now because he's already built and work on charlotte later down the line

[tawdry oasis]

how i can open this garden rubble thingy

[craggy siren]

use dendrograna

and charge attack it

[haughty lotus]

And give zhongli fav

[tawdry oasis]

dendrograna where

can't find any

[craggy siren]

where are you on the map?