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Ooo I have this on both kokomi and mona lmao
you can leave it at lvl 1
Oh š
as for energy, ayaka basically needs 0 ER
If I use diona and sucrose, would mona or kokomi be better?
just give her r5 amenoma kageuchi and you're golden
mona
any atk scaling character

you have to make sure that you use elemental skill then heal then burst if the character snapshots their burst though
which circlet would be better for furina?
what's your current ratio?
I'm inclined to say right
but if you have something like 50/180 already, I'd go left even if substats are worse
when is raiden getting a rerun update?

How do I solve this?
I have too many characters but don't know what to focus on for 36 stars the abyss, any ideas?
I would like a Hu Tao team, and the other team can be whatever. I don't like my HT/XQ + 2 double geo for the abyss, feels weak
im at 54/119 rn sadly.
hutao xq furina flex is an option i think
ayaka mona shenhe sucrose
I was thinking pulling for Baizhu and add it to that comp
either that or use Yaoyao
Do I need better substats on any pieces or are these fine for now?
crit ratio looks okay, only two things i'd advise are
- get her to 90 you psycho
- get a bit more ER if you plan to use her as solo hydro
you dont want tao burgeon
im reserving resin rn so thats why she isnt 90 
Which would be better? Will get noblesse on her in the future but either these two for now š
for diona? hp gob
huh so other healer 
Oki tysm!
"reserving resin" you do realize that she benefits from lvl 90, or at least her 80/90, because she's an hp scaler
hp goblet for the sole reason it's an hp goblet
but if you don't need the shield then roll with the cryo dmg goblet for the ER
I need Jean 
yeah i just dont have fragile rn so Im trying to get a decent set of artis and talents up rn
eh maybe no furina on that team then,
hutao xingqiu fischl anemo/flex
hm
focus on talents and levels for now unless you plan to shove her into the abyss this very instant
yeah i just had no set for her before so im just grabbing main stats and sub stats that arent double def double atk
I could make a Furina team latter
also turn on your pings please it's a bit hard for me to see who you're replying to
also you've got some pretty good pieces ngl, just a bit of tweaking and you should be good
what can I sacrifice for more ER? I am still farming her set so donāt point that out, ik
ah okay sorry i just do it to not annoy people. but what im noticing is just im missing a bit of crit and er im hoping to get with my circlet. but ill probably try get to lv 90 first then if thats a bigger buff.
mhm, that's the thing about hp scalers
it's better to take them to 90
this, if you're using an ER weapon then you can go hp sands but anything else should go er sands
also that may work for other chats but not in jen help
pinging people is actually productive, assuming you're not constantly doing it
do i need to get her to 40k or can it be fine if its slightly lower?
assuming getting to 90 doesnt bring her to 40k
Im using diona kinda as a battery (I think itās called that?) for my Ayaka
Just get good enough subs 
get her to 90 first then worry about 40k or whatnot
oh
do you want healing and shielding to go with that?
You'd have to average 12 ER (~2 max rolls) per artifact assuming 160 er req
it's just more realistic to run er sands
Healing would be good yeah
since Iām switching out kokomi for mona
You could get away with a little under 160 
or if you have one piece with 20+ ER then I guess that's fine
isn't it ~150 with yelan/xq?
Yes 
Also how much er should mona have I forgot
for double hydro with bad energy gen or mono hydro forget about running hp sands + non ER weapon
sac or fav?
yes
can furina go with nilou
possibly not, she's better in quickbloom, hyperbloom, or possibly burger
Is this okay or do I have to reach 200 er?
..which menas you need a global healer on the team
your options are only really baizhu or yaoyao
and that would mean building em furina, which isn't that good
and her buff would be wasted
I'm not quite sure how ferryman changes ER
would you want to do something like furina eq into yelan/xingqiu eq?
instead of slotting in healer eq before yelan/xq
My dumba** wants to run her with Dehya, so some suggest Bennett and Jean as support.
funni pipe or skyward blade for new jeans?
you probably only have a few sec of boosted ER from ferryman after bursting
so idk if you would want to modify rotation to grab boosted ER from second hydro character's particles
does she even have enough time to pick them up?
not sure how to rotate the team I'm gonna try so, not sure.
how many frames is her burst animation?
is it better to use marƩchaussƩe hunter instead of crimson for hu tao when shes with furina?
Should I get Fleuve?
What energy recharge should i get alhaitham to?
What's your team?
Huh 
your weapon
is it sacrificial bow or favonius warbow?
Not set yet, the one ive been using is beidou, baizhu and fischl but i wanna try kaveh, maybe shinobu, and a hydro, maybe ayato
if you are, get more ER on your artifacts
and take them both to 90 for crying out loud 
Ooo lemme check!! Sorry!
I alr know I need better artifact, luck hasn't been on my side recently.
No materials for 90 haha
Fav
My question remains, fav or fleuve?
fleuve for damage, fav for team energy
festering > fleuve if you have it
festering desire more like oldge š
hm
then you have the choice of
- sands: er or hp
- goblet: hp
- circlet: healing bonus or crit rate
and aim for er/crit substats
do that many people have festering stuck at r3? apparently people were asking zajeff to calc r3 festering
Iāll take the hp goblet then
i'd put the cryo dmg goblet for now since it has twice as much er
but aim for an hp goblet with that much er
Ohhh okay okay 
confused?
No is oki! I understand 
i hope so lol
and for future reference, the way i think about it is:
- what's the most important stat for this character?
- what other stats are important? (ex: if running favonius, then crit rate)
- how can I work with what I have to optimize those stats?
Fav sword that low?
can someone help me
lower personal damage
this is what mr zadge has on his sheets
if you need the extra energy then ofc energy > damage
i need help making a team comp for floor 11. Most characters level 70 and up are decently built
there's no levels
uuuh is there an abyss doccument, I forgor what's on f 11
Oh uh
Wrong images one sec
here's the correct images
neuvillette first half, hu tao / klee second half
if not solo then duo with kazuha
asking for a friend: does this team comp work?
Hu Tao
Xiangling
Furina
Noelle
should i show my neuv build
sure
No lol
heck no
3 dps + furina must be a fun time
you can tell your friend to play wet rock
furina + noelle is a hella good synergy
but the team has to be noelle-centric
is this decently usable...?
okay what
furina xingqiu/yelan noelle + 2nd geo
Oki tysm! 
So the question is C6 Noelle or not
they want hu tao and furina in the same team, how will that work?
or just go furina xingqiu yelan noelle
you'll have to be coping really hard
it's usable but not optimal, especially with such a high def roll
It's a fine piece as long as your CR is above 70% at the end of everything
it won't
here are the two dps you specified, for neuv i dont have a decent 4pc mare set yet
explain in full detail
have you seen my bliz circlets
the best one has like 17.5% def 
Only 53:173...
Get CR up through another piece then ig 
-
hu tao wants to be under 50% hp
-
furina wants everyone to be over 50% hp
-
hu tao doesn't like healers at all
-
furina needs a global healer (character that heals everyone) in her team
Wlep guess I'ma wait for time to get full golden troupe....
ah, alright then
you need to level 90 hu tao and her weapon, also get her talents to all at least lvl 8. NA > skill > burst
neuvillette needs 4pc MH so keep working on that. Hu taos crit is also very low so keep strongboxing crimson
plus there's so much i can nitpick in this team it's not even funny
Iāll keep that in mind but I donāt have much to strongbox
if its festering or fleuve its not too bad
Festering
any idea for hu tao and dps furina teams i should suggest for him?
it will...
take your time with farming, artifacts take a while
hu tao furina jean yelan/xingqiu
I know
here's an idea
make a furina team and a hu tao team
don't put them together
i literally just explained that they have anti-synergy
i meant dps furina team comps and hutao team comps...
furina gives over double the damage% lost from the passive lmao
send their list
Unfortunately rn is 2 PC hydro 2 PC golden .
furina isn't a dps btw, at best a sub dps and support
They can still work together 
āļø
Takes some effort though
*a lot
much more than is reasonable
no..?
like dps venti
where is the extra effort
not possible lmfao,
but heres some
jean
fischl
bennett
noelle
hu tao
c3 beidou
diona
I'll let tcers see if furina tao ends up being better than double hydro or vv vape
What characters other than hu Tao for the second half (basically what supports)
I wouldn't say it's unreasonable
well it's not possible to give anything useful unless i have the full list
damn.
alright then be back in around 6 hours
bennett sucrose xingqiu
even so, i wouldn't go into that area
better to put them in teams where they each can work to their fullest potential
I was about to go for xingqiu, zhongli, and Bennett but ok
I still think they're perfectly fine together, Furina's buff makes up for Hu Tao being above 50%
thats what im saying
its the same thing as running hu tao with bennett, you lose the passive but its still a gain
hu tao also changes hp and noelle doesnt even heal much but heals the entire team
but yeah it doesnt seem to work very well
okay that's a completely different territory
noelle eats up field time to heal, meaning you'll lose hu tao field time
Both worth perfectly fine
true...
It's good
i'd argue you got away with that because jean
but eh
just use jean then? 
Why else would she be there?
If the only hp changes I got were from Furina's E and Hu Tao E Q I wouldn't get nearly as many stacks
I think kokomi jean qiqi and Barbara are the best healers for furina...no?
Yes if onfield, yes generally, no, and no
qiqi, no. kokomi and barbara need to be onfield so depends on the team
You swirl yourself...
Bennett Q + Jean Q = Sunfire
jean + bennett apply pyro onto enemies
You're right
Bennett applies pyro to yrself , and jean applies anemo to yrself...
jean doesnt swirl pyro after she cast her burst right
I died immediately in chamber 3
rip
i shall try that

Hi uhm can someone help me figure furinaās best teams
For ur acc? Send roster
Furina Jean C6 Yelan C6 Wanderer (rel)
Kk
Is it possible for me to beat f12
what is a hmc?
I'm begging you
Hydro main character
hmmmm
is that like that dori and mika people mention?
oh yeah, hmc must be a knight of favonius right?

surely a member of varka's expedition crew
HELP ME. Ik heās terrible but i cant use any otherš i mean theres my geo trav(my most well built)
dendro traveler is a cool variant to invest on
oh imma get up to speed first before i form my suggestions
Do you think i should go back to dendro traveller?
crinkle pringle
yep, his dendro app is great to make spread/agg/bloom/hyperbloom teams
the damage donāt really matter, you can still bring them at 1/9/9 talents (assuming c6)
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one attempts to eat a pair of sickles, nice
Yesh
Omg i just thought of something dendro mc(deepwood),alhaitham,kuki and furina
I must live up to my name.
that works as well
Kuki doesn't really heal all that much though

And the hardest one to obtain is kuki ;-;
you need baizhu instead of dmc
go yaoyao instead of dendro mc 
They prob only make those teams to elaborate on what the party format looks like tbh
I doubt they can stoop that low
I really hope that they add some characters like thoma and kuki to the paimon bargain cycle smh
if healing bonus gets a substat, then kuki may offset furinaās hp drain
healing bonus is on headpieces
oh substat
With dendro being the meta element in genshin these two are almost a must get
i cant read
the mirrors in my world arent activating, so i cant do the cupids lover quest or get the last hydroculus, how do i get them to actually do something??
Does anyone actually use those...?
Yh but she helps for furina fanfare stacks
Dont have him
which one?
you press skill, boom instant 30 fanfare
max the artifact on the left, then iāll pick
Donāt level 4 stars
it is (4 star)
wait
man i gotta rn unless i should just run no artis lmao
You have to swap between and heal every teammate individually for fanfare which doesnāt work with alhaitham teams
this is just straight up embarrassing for me to not read all the details
"generally no"
meanwhile there's me playing sac qiqi on-field
Exactly
you're not the only one lol, don't sweat it

Oh.
What if i use barbara instead
For alhaitham is basically just Baizhu, no other good options

+16 one
itās a 4 star
Oh wait itās a 4 star Breh
okay iām not alone
It has better stats
Hm ok
lol, its that obvious
i thought so but is it worth it even tho its 4 star or too much of a main stat difference
What 
my dehya has a higher base atk stat than my ganyu...
ok
Depends on their base attack and weapon 
Get prototype
easiest way to see what i need to improve is probably just the artifacts stat sheet
Enka.network shows stats better
^
proto crescent??? hamayumi????
aint no way you did that to my girl-
Yumim in freeze 
Sac ganyu superior tbh
i dont have either or enough to craft 'em
you craft it as far as i know
current bows
buy
from here https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Mingxing_Jewelry
then craft
i have that but i have no (18 or smth) white iron
Thatās easy to get, also stop levelling sac bows
H o w
checked enka.network heres my ganyu
worse that my build, honestly hard to achieve, gj
i am
but i have never gotten a full set of 5 star blizzard strayer i always get the stupid hydro set instead š¦
- get 5* artifacts
- use atk/cryo/crit damage on sands/goblet/circlet
- make crescent bow for gods sake
- level talents
welcome to the genshin endgame where we spend our resin doing the same domain for months on end
- do 3) before 1) and 2)

thats my excuse lmao
I am also f2p, that is not a valid excuse LOL
man i started realizing artifacts mattered this past summer š¦ before that i had never done an artifact domain
what domain lvl should i challenge beings ganyu is sadly still my strongest character even with that bad of a build
max level in coop
you should never lower the level of a domain, the ar 45 domain is guaranteed 5* every run
you should be exclusively looking at 5* artifacts
alright ig ill try to find somebody to coop with
Shirley
would that be the matching button that ive never used
Yes


Years*
true
emblem bros have never left
treez encounter surely
I still need like 1-2 more emblem sets but theyāre not necessary
I've been scamboxing it
a bot tells me to scambox bliz or noblesse and I oblige
"g-guys.... i h-have a t-----tttteam comp i would l-lovr to have... please ra-rate it"
hu tao
diluc
kamisato ayaka
manisato ayayo
Is the best way to use strongbox is to sacrifice artifacts with 2 bad sub stats and def circlets?
i just toss in stuff that i know i'll never be using
Kek
anyone know y my neuvi is so weak by himself. he does like 14-16k charged atk hits, with these stats. is he not a good dps or did i build him wrong. he has 31k hp. lvl 8 talents. his weapon. what could i do to make him stronger by himself
What was the phrase furina used when saying goodbye during her story quest? It wasn't english
you can check dialogue in fandom
Show your build using enka maybe
Ah alright thanks
zhongli but he just sinks to the bottom when he enters fontaine water
and then he can walk on the seafloor like metal mario
is that a bot i donāt rlly use disc that much
Search up enka network, it's a website that showcases your character stats and stuff
Mf really said that when my neuv does 8k- 10k per hit. Ok bro
my b, mine does 10k too at its lowest. most of the mains iāve seen do at least 20k.
it wonāt let me download but here it is
Level him up to 90, pretty bad artifacts ngl
also my other characters that have those stats do way more
there a work in progress
download button is placed under
ik it just wasnāt downloading
ive been stuck in here for so long. How do i fix this?
it shows you an image that you can either download or copy directly
i promise i clicked it lol it just doesnāt download
whats the skill levelling Prio for Wanderer? Skill > NA > burst?
na > skill > burst unless c2, where burst > skill
š thanks boss

what's your team for him?
it could be rotation problems maybe?
- level to 90/90
- farm for more artifacts
that circlet would be nice on someone else, but not neuvi
flower is pretty sad, goblet is pretty sad, that off piece is pretty bad for an off piece
check to see if you have any hydro goblets with double crit iirc those are competitve with hydro goblets with his sig
are you properly using reactions? he gains buffs based on how many types of hydro reactions you can trigger
na=skill>burst
š ty
i could've swore that electro resonance gave like 15% more er
2 electro generates more energy particles
oh
Been looking up wriothesley teams I have a general idea but anyone have some really cracked team comps for him ?
wriostheley shenhe kazuha xingqiu/benny maybe?
no benny
Wrio, Shenhe, Bennet, Xiangling
Wrio, shenhe, Furina, Jean
Vv jean and furina does more dmv than melt if u get enough stacks
but the ca womt crit
rn itās neuvi barb yae and pyro polyarm girl. i forgot her name. but i just want him to do more dmg solo
tbh, are you yozhe
no we are different individuals
brozhe is my blizzard buddy
yeah brozhe doesn't have a good cryo goblet
I don't have a good blizzard circlet š
no wonder
run neuvi beidou fischl anemo
also his artifact r a work in progress rn so i agree
do you have furrynya?
no
How much better is furinas signturenthan r5 fishing sword
but i kinda just wanna improve him on his own, not relying on other characters too much.
i wondering if he needs more cd or hp
both
bc my other characters have abt the same crit ratio as him and they do a lot more
a better goblet
in a solo team?
like 20% but usually c2 > c1 > sig so no reason to pull
he needs a better everything, iām just wondering which stats
i alredy pulled i was just asking so i know should i keep it on furina or ayato
have you tried https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct1iIhGXErw
#neuvillette
#genshin #genshinimpact #ą¹ąøąøąøąø“ąøąøąø“ąø”ą¹ąøąø #ą¹ąøąøąøąø“ąø #spiralabyss
mood
i dont know
it's just a statstick
with sig I'm pretty sure hp goblet is competitive with hydro damage %
the only stats that neuvi cares about is hp and crit
even with sig, it will just perform worse than hydro
unless your hydro goblet is 0cv or something lol
is furina ayato mona jean a good team? Or is there someone better then mona
š
nice vomit color babe
Thx bb
well it depends on who you got but i'd hesitate before putting mona with ayato

send roster
also avatar pfp š¤
While HP% | Hydro DMG% | CRIT is very often the best choice of main stats, builds with an HP% Goblet, HP% Circlet, or even both are still viable as the optimal pick leads only by a small margin. Note that suboptimal HP% main stats need correspondingly high-quality substats to be competitive; additionally, Triple HP% will perform worse regardless of substats.
source: KQM
furina :)
If you are going for mono hydro use yelan or xingqiu instead of mona
Might need some more ER
focalor š
Fine in mono hydro
c4 gives her energy u know
im not is there anyone better than yelan or xinque?
she will never not be double hydro, and isnāt double hydro rec 160-180? iām not far off :3
I haven't seen the words "better than" and "yelan or xingqiu" in the same sentence before
double hydro rec is in fact 160-180
wow look at me having proper er given i have c4 :3
are you dead set on putting furina and ayato in the same team?
You still dont have enough ER for double hydro. Being off my small amount wont make your rotations work unless you use lots of favge
⦠but i do have enough er for double hydro with yelan c4 and furina c4, or kokomi c6 and furina c4 :3
šš matching puke visions
and if anything, i can switch a feather to easily hit that 170 er :3
c4 reduces your er req by 30-50%
but still c4 
yeah yet i donāt have enuf 
this aint a whale this a whole weekly boss 
:)
@haughty lotus guess whoās actually leveling lyney talents now
I guess I underestimated c4.... it's about 30% of your required energy/rotation right?
with so many confounding variables i'd just hand it over to mister zajef
Yeah thats gonna work. Make sure to have one favge holder
no thanks
š³š³š³
or just put kokomi on favge
Ok
#strats

i kid you not i did that once
realized a couple seconds too late
oh yeah I got muted in mr zadge's chat earlier today for saying "MOMMY" when skirk showed up 
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his mods really be like that?
mods need to acquire some taste 
fav on kokomi ā

kokovelation
i had this one crackpot idea to run bs kokomi to get at least some crit rate
but i'm not going back into bs hell again
nuh uh
just get r5 royal grimore smh
Isnt kok your onfielder. You want her to do dmg pretty sure 
not as uncommon as youād think
the enemies are melted before anyone other than furina can EQ, and koko can Q lol.
wait till he hears about the r2 donut
itās only r1
who has donut now?
for now...
aint it strawberry?
atm im ar 47 what should i be prioritizing atm for furina?
furinas teammates btw
i wouldnāt call it mint flavored, but rather matcha
are you in fontaine yet?
if not hold off on building furina until you get there
and both 
yes i have most of fontaine mainland unlocked
drop your roster
Gib
š
Ngl i kinda want Jade Donut over Furina BiS
no š
Saving for geo mummy tho
this is what i have atm because i didnt pull on this acc , i dont have much to work with atm
Well lvl her up first
yes i see
but show all your characters so we can build a team and give you investment priority
also you have jean so that's good
xiangling lvl 1 
i just got her
fair
i have alot of resin to work with
there isnt anyone else i have that can use her there is nuvi and lyney but im still building them
i have no comment about this account...
wtf do not overcap like this bestie omg
no bennett, so reasonable 
(20 her, get that free standard wish)
whatās ur AR omg
overcapped resin
holy fuck i did that for furina but iām ar58 and a whale bruh
iāve never seen someone normal do that
people think it is cool 
47 
oh lawd
yāall help this person cause if i say anything iāll get yelled at for not knowing the game
okay one sec
If i go baizhu furina who should my last 2 characters be?
u dont have a team to work with
okay so a team i can make with the characters you have rn are furina (4pc gt), jean (4pc vv), kaeya (4pc bs), xq (4pc emblem)
investment priority imo would be to focus on leveling up each of those four, getting a 4pc vv set on jean, then going in the order of kaeya > jean / furina > xq
Any 2 fuckers
that works also lv up charecters
okk tyty
who do u have tho
well depends on who else you got
so drop the roster

YOU CAN SORT BY OWNED?????
yes
you can also go into the party set up screen and take a pic from there
it's clearer that way
Hold on Iām loading
I think servers have reset rn
There we go- sorry a ps player getting pictures suck
is dps aggrivate raiden real?
real and slaps
if so raiden furina nahida jean or bhaizu
What weapon would raiden use if not the catch?
the catch 
"iTs cAlLeD qUiCkBlOoM" āļø š¤
for em raiden go dbane
I kinda want to do a Hyper Raiden with Raiden Kazuha/Sucrose Bennett, but idk if to use Sara or TTDS Lisa. Any help? I'm using Raiden National atm
Aight time to steal Hu taos weapon
what teamis raiden in?
Use Fischl
Raiden Fischl Bennett Kazu
os sara c6?
Got it, thank you š
None
Dont have her at c6 lol
I havenāt had the time to build a raiden team yet
then the weapon could vary widely
rip if ttds lisa works or just fishl
I'll try Fischl first since she is more built than Lisa rn, and then mabye ttds lisa
oki
Ttds lisa would also shred def if you 60/70 her 
isnt that her c1 or 2 also
a4
Uh what weapon should my nahida have?
Oh god Iāve gotta pray to god i get Furinas weapon-
Any weapons that have em, i used sac frags before i got her signature
I have her on widsith rn
that works on most teams
iirc, you only use sac frags on teams where you want to hit 1k em
Btw whenās the main event for this version releasing
who is furina good with (i got yoi lyney nuvi ayato) (kequing and ayaka
)
neuv
What is genshin android update?
furina is a bit slow w yoi but can keep up
lyney wants monopyro
ayato idk lol
keqing does aggravate (or quicken? i can never remember which is which but she wants dendro aura)
furina can word p decently w ayaka depending on ur team n how much heals u need
Wdym?
they tweeted abt an update to the android client
sounds like they basically updated their stuff on google play so it works better (put simply)


two twiggies???
impasta

Interesting
Does anyone still use ganyu?
@quaint fern
I do 
I do as 4p Noblesse bot in Wrio team
i do ~~ also sac ganyu superior tbh~~
man did ganyu actually fall off??
ofc
shes still a good dps
nah, there's just more chars now, and imo people got sick of just standing there and aim shotting
She never did, there are just more(better) options
I see
Shes still the same as always
She havent gotten any major upgrades in the sense that a chara is released that works very well with her so far
She does get some new best in slot
But nothing too crazy
what artifacts does furina use
i finished her weapon for what i rlly could atm , tomorrow should i work on artifacts + lvl 80 then talents another day or should i seperate all things into different days of the week?
and how do u unlock her boss
ganyu still viable in abyss šÆ
golden troupe
talents first, because those are locked behind specific days
whens her talent domain open
4p?
focus on leveling her to 90, farm her talents on her days and then you can farm artifacts
tuesday and friday
i cant lvl her to 90
and sunday of course
im ar 48
yes
and how do u unlock her boss
ah
her boss? for ascending?
yeah
you just gotta unlock the waypoint for faster access
u can just swim to it
it's to the left of court of fontaine
what one is it tho
hydro tulpa?
the blue one
yes
its court of pontaine š
is that a problem?
are you a new player?
u said court of fontaine so
huh
why does it say court of pontaine on map-
different language?
nope.. nvm
or maybe something is covering it
ignore me my map looked funny and it looked like a P
what stats should i focus on for furina? and what stats would be changed if i got c2 ?
fuck u getting c2 for?
hp til 40k and er so you can be getting her burst back comfortably, crit after that
I think just hp and crit er is also good
for main stats u want hp/hp/crit, for subs er n crit
is furina triple hp?
try hitting 40k for hp, thts 36k if u run double hydro
because its good
ok ty
hp/hydro/crit is also good at c2. Use the goblet with better substats. Also you don't aboslutely need 40k hp, don't sacrifice Crit to get 40k hp
hydro and hp goblet are almost the same right?
ye
just run hp/hp/crit and aim for as much hp as possible and also er too
in most cases
don't need to run triple hp
my current horrible build atm 
we all start small, that's okayge
early game... mayhaps focus on survivability 
i was in co op doing a trounce domain and i used zhongli. why do my teammates not get my shield?
or is it jsut invisible to me?
im ar 48 , i just didnt prefarm at all
but did u swipe?
i thought shields and heals automatically go to your teammate in co op cuz i saw a layla do it in a yt vid
no , i saved
damn ok
ar48 is still early game
probably cons or smth
most ppl dont know what they're doing until ar56 or smth
they have different kits and abilities
c1 layla, c2 diona, c2 zhongli give coop teammates shield
i have alot of resin for furina 
oh jesus capped resin detected
now's the time to farm the boss mats then
capped 
yeahh
i got 3 weekly mats again today 
how much ER does nahida needs?
not a lot, maybe 140% ish
just realized how terrible my nahida is. what was my old self cooking?
at least u got the right set n em 
on field nahida's have around 400-500 em
this is off field
thts for off field
too lazy to lvl 90
missing out on dmg then
depennds on team, she can still go em/em/crit
teams where someone else still has triple em
an example is like alhaitham kuki nahida xingqiu or something
might as well run both kuki n nahida on em tho
cuz alhaitham is on field doing dmg
nahidas still does good dmg, but still, best option is just to ask optimizer
ohh, my kuki have triple em
noice
but my neuv on field
he's a carry, supposed to b on field
if you run gilded on nahida and deepwood on another character, you can run less em
If you are talking about Nahida's A1 Em buff then kuki already has around 1k EM for it. But you still run triple EM on Nahida if she is offield as its generally best for her dmg
ER until requirement > as close to 900-1000 total EM as possible* > Dendro DMG% > CRIT > EM
- Note that aiming for 900-1000 EM is optimal for off-field Nahidaās personal damage even when her A1 buff is irrelevant. This is due to how her A4 buffs her Skill damage based on EM. However, the amount of EM that you can realistically reach with a non-EM weapon is limited, especially without external EM buffs. Additionally, the difference is fairly minimal in Nahidaās personal damage between an off-field build maximizing EM and one balancing CRIT and DMG% stats.
damn we copy pasting paragraphs now 
why not lol
basically just use optimizer 
optimizer oppa
which piece is better? (ik they both suck)
the one w most em imo
2nd imo but you should level them more first
exactly what i said 
and don't bring up kqm as a source, i literally don't care
You said it will always perform worse
find me a good neuv with hp goblet
š my old nuevi build was prety gud
What's more preferable for Furina? A Hydro damage goblet or HP Goblet?
HP
ahh, 2nd rolled on em
nice
10/1/1 BASED
š„ŗ was able to clear 12-2 with nuevi anddongli (cus i cant dodge, skil isue)
join me, become puke gren
noh
š
anemo better
took me like 3 rotations to get anemo back
cryo for rizzly when
anemo for Varka surely
:š¤
what exploration team can I make with these characters?
lynete kaz flex flex
Cashflow or Wine Song for Charlotte (cryo applicator)
he is my main DPS(lul)
there are worse sins, like raiden overworld
nahida is so nice overowrld but she so short š
xiangling 
kazuha, lynette, kirara and a char that have the talent to find local specialties
stove lighter surely
uhh anyone in particular?
y'all saying overworld team as if i don't use my abyss team in overworld
surely gouba wont miss
jsut check your character's talents
klee for mond, qiqi yanfei for liyue, gorou for inazuma, nari for sumeru, lyney for fontaine
not saying you have them, they are the local specialy peeps
xample is tighnari in sumeru and yanfei in liyue
for overworld I prefer movement abilities
Yelan Furina Kazuha Kuki
is what I'm running right now
underworld 
underworld screm1
my phone loves autocorrecting that
okey
we're going hell now
already there sadgw
gacha hell 
going?? ure already here lil bro
who is nari?
tighnari
oh
fluffy ears dendro boi
can I replace him with yanfei for exploring in sumeru
if ure exploring sumeru u definitely want a dendro in the team
but also u do what u want
Sumeru go-to is pyro/dendro/electro and a bow char, never need to swap anything out
primos
Can anyone tell me which characters would go well with furina in an exploration team?
sure, why not ig, but yanfei cant show sumerus local specialties
for underwater, possibly Neuv. afaik Furina can't switch alignment while underwater, so Neuv would let you cheese pneumousia puzzles
Yup she can't
I'm not seeing a lot of useful movement abilities. No Sayu. idk about Lynette.
Lynette is fine
I can build Lynette no issue
My luck is sometimes terrible when it comes to 4 stars I need/want
Notice how throughout all my 79 pulls no Charlotte 
you dont need to level lynette for overworld traveling
for Wrio Shenhe Ben Kaz
should Shenhe be on Noblesse or 2pc 2pc atk%? Bennett possibly on instructor?
the way I use Sayu, she's lvl50 to avoid oneshots and I never use her in battle
O ic
for challenges where I have to fight more seriously, I switch to a different team
like weekly bosses
Ofc ofc, weekly bosses do be laggy sometimes 
I couldn't live without Kazuha in overworld
just fly tbh
every time the game gives me an awkward climbing situation resolved by the press of one button
Do double hydro + kazuha 
the ideal solution would be Scara ofc, but then you'd have to pull for Scara š
get 0 pity -> get him in 1 pull
magically get c6 Faruzan so he becomes a good pull 
it's not that deep, only use him in overworld is enough 
i don't even dare to use faruzan
haitham wants a 2nd dendro preferably to battery + 4p Deepwood holder
2nd team is fine, Kaz or Venti are better slots than Sucrose
should I push for furina(since I lost my 50/50 and is guaranteed or just wait for another character)
push?
go for it
entirely up to you
Furina is a good pull value
Okay
for haitham team, most logical outcome is replacing Jean with either Baizhu or Yaoyao
you don't need the 4p VV, and her burst healing can be replaced by either of the two (albeit to a lesser extent)
Yaoyao universal healer?
she can heal team-wide with ult, but it takes field time yes
the team rn is Kazuha,yae miko,traveler,barbara
do you mind posting your whole roster here? traveller and Barb doesn't seem to be an ideal option
bread
Yae/Fischl/Yaoyao/Kaz is the better team for you
if you want to pull for Furina, you can run Bennett/XL/Sucrose/Furina
we building a new team with this one(what artifacts do i get for yao yao,fischl,yae) I alr know I need full em for kazuha
4p Tenacity Yaoyao
4p Golden Troupe Fischl
Yae can be 4p Emblem or 2p2p mix
For char builds you can generally refer here (it's on the pinned msg)
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds
alright thanks
Layla isn't contributing much on that team
You can use Bennett
ZL is more because he has universal res shred
so double boost with bennet and yun jin?
Yeah
kk
can also Xq to cover up Noelle's godawful sgt
xq is xinqiu right
yep
and whats sgt
single target
ooo ok
Sergeant
should i pull for ayato c1 or try my luck on weapon banner?
he currently has furinas weapon ill give it to her when i get her tho
i didnt
SoSS is a decent weapon, Haran + SoSS doesn't sound too bad of a deal
if dont get ayatos weapon should i keep him on furinas weapon or r3 black sword
idk the math but I wouldn't be surprised if Black Sword wins 
SoSS xiangling needs a er sands right?
well, balance her stats ofc
if you get ER subs then you can opt for different sands, it's important to optimize it
Basically impossible to get ~200 ER from subs alone
While balancing any of her other stats
that's assuming you need a 200 ER XL
Well... When don't you
does ayato work well with furina
should be over 160 but idt 200 is right
Somewhat yeah
Definitely a playable team
Becuas eim thinking of ayato jean furina xisngling would that work?
Ehhh
Xiangling wouldn't survive in that team
reasonable
so who do i play then as the 4th charecter
ayatl furina jeanā-
i dont like fishl please
stop

fischl
ok go Amy
Is she really the only character
you can Bennett too, or Yelan/Xq
or even c6 yunjin tbh 
yuck
you need at least 13 max-rolls of ER to reach 200 (including the 2pc emblem bonus)
an ER sands gives you the same as ~8 max rolls
Bennet is it thanks
what meta, who even use ayato smg
I cope daily
dw it's directed to devil
I use ayato and yoimiya usally unless abyss too hard then i go lyney nuvi
devil is dementia? š®
find me 20 ayato mains in this server then your statement is valid 
ye
it never stops
he kept quitting and coming back
Lyney bennet dehya furina (healing)TRUST

furina + em vape (rel)
Im trying to figure out what teams to use if i run lyney and nuvi in the same abyss and they overlap so much
wot
They do not overlap at all
Lyney/Bennett/Dehya or XL/Kaz or ZL
Neuv/Furina/Jean/Fischl
Besides Kazuha Ig
where's the overlap
i forgor jean and furina exist
kaz zl is the overlap I guess


you literally put them on your Ayato team but not your Neuv team
thats what i was thinking
people only think of neuv vape at this point

mono hydro nuvi (real) nuvi jean mona furina
even if you run Ayato Neuv u can still Ayato nat + Neuv/Furina team
Mona isn't that good
well i am really dumb so thanks for the teams
Has the akasha system release a ranking for furina yet?
idt so?
I refreshed mine and it's not showing a ranking on the build card. So I think that's a no.
is 750 even that high
probably top 2% or smth, idk Ayato's leaderboards
his build is admittedly pretty good though if you've seen it, just the ER is 
classic
When ER

I did get the most insane EM sands on Marechaussee a while back so the hardest part of building Alhaitham on MH should be done
MH set after Furina releases: stonks
???
er is overrated also top 1%
ure overrated get dunked
Btw how does Alhaitham mirrors work exactly, is everything his mirrors do counted as skill damage?
yes
they do
wot
go study math now




