📌gimshim-help

[lyric cargo]

37.5 : 37.5 : 25

[pastel zealot]

what weapon should i try to get for charlotte?
proto amber?

[lyric cargo]

not sure yet
they really did her dirty by giving her atk scaling

[pastel zealot]

kinda true

[lyric cargo]

if she was an hp scaler, prototype amber or ttds would be nice

[pastel zealot]

but yeah she can be both healer and sub dps

[lyric cargo]

you might need fav codex to handle her ER req

[pastel zealot]

i wanted to give ttds to her

[strong holly]

Hii, could I have some teams recommandations for Furina please ?

[pastel zealot]

hutao furina xingq zhong

[lyric cargo]

you want teamwide, frontloaded healing and chars that can take good advantage of a dmg% buff

[lyric cargo]

without a healer, you'll completely lose her buff and a lot of her personal dmg after the first rotation

[pastel zealot]

oh yea tru

then ditch zhong with
yk what idk

[lyric cargo]

placeholder healer tier list
(koko noelle qiqi would need to be onfield to do teamwide healing)

non-healers assuming prototype amber, I wouldn't consider them

[strong holly]

So Hu tao/Furina/XQ/Jean could be good ? (:

[pastel zealot]

nahida heals?

[lyric cargo]

non-healers assuming prototype amber, I wouldn't consider them

[velvet inlet]

prototype amber

[sick quarry]

Who should I build and what sorta teams will I be able to make with these chars

[pastel zealot]

hmm...

i see

[lyric cargo]

her drain is way more than pamber heal
it's like 50% over a 20s rotation

[stark sandal]

How should I build a team? I have nahida, nilou, baizhu

[narrow folio]

Healer where?

[feral nymph]

How do I build miss Charlotte?

[pastel zealot]

ignore that i forgot during that

atk atk atk atk atk

she'll basically be insane

[novel charm]

Can explain what furina buff in razor language🧍‍♀️?

[tepid coyote]

you seem to be new, so team comp doesn't have to be your priority
but, i'd say Keqing, Mona, Xinqiu and Lyney with VV

[tepid coyote]

Furina use skill, her baby attack and it drain health from teammate. each drain increase dmg.
furina use ult, everytime team gets dmg and/or healed, she gains points. more points = more damage

[neon wave]

Does furina's buff justify playing double hydro in c0 neuv teams?

[novel charm]

Is the dmg buff apply to her only?

[tepid coyote]

skill buff, her only. ult buff, team wide

[novel charm]

Oh and the buff only after she use burst?

Ohhhhhhhh

[tepid coyote]

ye

good luck trying to find a team for that tho. i still couldn't find one.

well, Jean and fischl, but i got no jean

[novel charm]

How high can she buff as c0? Like does she buff total dmg or sum else

[neon wave]

I finally have a use for jean so I'll take it

[tepid coyote]

depends on the amount your team drains health/ heals. max fanfare points at c0 is 250 and each fanfare gain is different based on your talent and stuff

[lyric cargo]

talent level 10 gives 25% buff per 100 stacks, with 300 stack cap

but you'd care about average stacks rather than what you reach by the end of your rotation

[novel charm]

I seeee, so whats her support rotation if team with neu?

[tepid coyote]

dunno, haven;t tried her, but i think i can theory craft it

[stark sandal]

Furina can be dps?

[tepid coyote]

sub dps? ye

or off field dps, in terms of genshin

[stark sandal]

Cool

[pastel zealot]

furina can be on field for exploration jsyk

she runs on water

[tepid coyote]

i think, fischl E, Jean Q, E tap, Furina Q, Black E, Neuv Q, E , CA , Fischl Q, Neuv CA 2X

[strong holly]

?

[lusty tulip]

How long is the Act 5?

[primal tendon]

didn't I mention her elemental skill drains hp, so it will be hard to activate it's passive

[lyric cargo]

you also kinda want to be at 50% on all party members going into the next rotation

so that your teamwide healer can top everyone off right after furina bursts

giving her 4x 50 = 200 stacks right away

[devout parrot]

furina

[daring river]

Looking for lakelihght lilies please. I only need 7

[devout parrot]

#👥gimshim-coop

[honest heart]

noice

[devout parrot]

ty

[honest heart]

mine is still underway

[devout parrot]

good luck

[honest heart]

thanks

[steady beacon]

Does anyone know if yoimiya and furina will work well together? The team im running right now is Yoimiya, yelan, bennet and zhongli. But if i have furina, i will still need the sheild to stop knockback and so on.

[small blade]

keep using Yelan

[copper solar]

Can I farm the lakelight flower from other people world

[small blade]

#👥gimshim-coop

[copper solar]

Ok

[earnest bone]

would forward melt work now charlotte is available

[bitter geode]

Why is Hp goblet better for Furina?

[craggy siren]

because she gains a lot of dmg bonus from everything

her ascension talent gives 28% dmg bonus, fanfare gives 75% at talent lvl 10

you do need 40k hp on her for that 28% dmg bonus too

[ripe surge]

who is more shenhe dependent? ayaka or rice lee?

[bitter geode]

Aight I see, it'll be easier to get a good substat with this

[craggy siren]

ayaka since she's often in a freeze team, rice lee can have benny or other supports

[zealous night]

Wait are there any events that gives tons of intertwined fates/primos? I feel like I have just a crap ton with no reason

[ripe surge]

who is easier to build and higher dmg scaling? ayaka or rice lee? considering rice lee is c1

[craggy siren]

rice lee c1 is super nice i heard, he should be easier to play since you mostly use his na and charge to deal dmg, and his burst is additional dmg

but i don't know for sure since i don't have him

[lyric cargo]

whoever is rice lee

[novel charm]

Hownto unlock

[craggy siren]

the warden guy whose bottom's become a meme

[lyric cargo]

that's a weird nickname given that zl is so much shorter

[craggy siren]

that's the archon, not the warden danki

wriostheley

[willow zealot]

which is better for f2p furina

[craggy siren]

the 2nd one should be better

[bitter geode]

Would say 2nd, better er, closer 1:2 cr

[lyric cargo]

I don't see any upside to 1st

less crit value, worse ratio, less ER
slightly more hp

[bitter geode]

Anyone have an er chart for Furina?

[bronze lintel]

I just got Mona , how do I build her for burst dmg like those showcase on yt

[sleek yew]

Any one good for skyward harp & that baizhu wep?

[ocean kiln]

kokomi keeps her at full HP :huh:

[primal tendon]

so you are playing on field Furina

interesting

but I won't recommend

[sleek yew]

What to do with baizhu wep thingy

[primal tendon]

fodder

[sleek yew]

I lost both to his wep

[lyric cargo]

first time archon banner and a char with a bad 5-star weapon
name a more iconic duo for making people wish on bad weapon banners

[brisk nest]

does anyone know where i can get this

[shell trench]

best option for furina? (Yes I know they aren’t the best stuff but I don’t have any alternatives)

[lofty badger]

what is the meaning behind furina's burst animation?

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-genshin-impact-furina-focalors-gif-10369577268651150276

[zealous night]

how do you think hoyo gets the numbers for their character stats/talents? why is it always so specific down to the decimal?

[placid sparrow]

Is sacrificial sword good for furina?

[lyric cargo]

it would just be a stat stick

[primal tendon]

no

[lyric cargo]

her skill lasts 30s and has a 20s cooldown, so full uptime is easy

I guess if you have c6, you can trigger the effect again. but I don't think it would be worth running sac sword for that

[primal tendon]

stat stick...just learned this term, so weapon which you use only for it's mainstat, not for it's passive

[novel charm]

Where the hell is the other entrance/the purify thing

[unkempt river]

Has the song from Furinas character demo released yet?

[unkempt river]

Fav imo

[tepid coyote]

So what if? Neuv, furina, Sayu and Fischl?

[elder bluff]

show map location

[bronze lintel]

I just got Mona , how do I build her for burst dmg like those showcase on yt

[elder bluff]

build guide is in pins

[lyric cargo]

you can also consider fishing for the pipe sword, it's good on her

especially if other chars are using your fav

it's easier to fish for than the catch

[spare garden]

Who gives you better price for dull ring?

Is there any twist in there?

Dull ring that you got from 9 pillers of peace quest

[stark sandal]

For the bloom team, I have nahida, nilou, baizhu, which character should I add? Kuki?

[opal surge]

You can't add a non dendro/hydro

Kokomi would be standard, so maybe Barbara if you have her

[lyric cargo]

Nilou's passive demands the entire team be dendro / hydro

usually 2d 2h

Nahida, Nilou, Yaoyao, Kokomi/Ayato/etc

[amber veldt]

So since they all work together really well can the team name for Neuvilette, Jean, and Furina be Vijeana

[sick quarry]

What alternative weapon I can use if I don't have a Dragon's Bane, Moonpiercer, or Kitain Cross Spear for the hyberbloom raiden shogun?

[amber veldt]

Catch?

Why not just craft kitain

I think moonpiercer is actually better

[neon wave]

both moonpiercer and kitain are craftable

[amber veldt]

Pretty sure it's dbane > moonpiercer > kitain

[lyric cargo]

the only stat hyperbloom raiden cares about is EM

[sick quarry]

Great. Through the blacksmith? Out of those two weapons. Which one is the best?

[amber veldt]

Moon

[sick quarry]

I read that in the guide. I'm running a Kamisato, Bazihu, Nahida, and Raiden Shogun.

[amber veldt]

I dont think it's by much though

[unkempt river]

How do you change Furinas Arkhe alignment under water?

[amber veldt]

Kitain for max drip for her though on HB

[stark sandal]

Nahida + Nilou + Baizhu + xingqiu or barbara?

[sick quarry]

Anyone tested proto amber with furina drain? Does it get decent stacks? Idc about the healing.

[stark sandal]

Or just add dendro traveler

[pastel zealot]

I need some help, what weapon do I try to get for charlotte (any craftable?) if i have like no good options for her

And for furina do i just get the fontaine pipe

[amber veldt]

Havent even looked at what Charlotte does yet

[pastel zealot]

Sub dps and heal

She's pretty good

[amber veldt]

She scale with hp?

[pastel zealot]

Atk

Thought i have no idea why

[unkempt river]

Best Furina team?

[amber veldt]

Purity is probably good for her

[lyric cargo]

healing scales with atk. high ER req. If she deals reasonable damage, I havent heard about it

[sage kernel]

in terms of cryo application for diluc melt, who are the best applicators? and is charlotte any good for it?

[amber veldt]

Or oathsworn if she needs er that bad

[sage kernel]

have you tried replacing lisa with dendro mc for your current team

[unkempt river]

That's an aggravate team, not really- Lisa has lpsw and Tigh is enough dendro imo

Though what's my best furina team?

[sage kernel]

ok nice

let me cook 🤔

[unkempt river]

aight

[sage kernel]

i think you might want to build charlotte, im the same as you as i have both charlotte and qiqi unbuilt but im building charlotte because she has team wide healing

[small blade]

Rosaria

[unkempt river]

Just got Qiqi haha

[sage kernel]

Yelan furina charlotte xiangling could work

or bennet instead of charlotte

[unkempt river]

yeah, that's just my current vape team but with Furina instead of XQ

[sage kernel]

im trying to think because i know you need team wide healing

[unkempt river]

but Benny has no team wide healin

Sayu? VV shred too

[sage kernel]

yeh possibly

idk about your other team though

[small blade]

You need to keep bennet in that team for xiangling and if you replace Yelan there won't be enough hydro. Keep using Xingqiu, Yelan, Bennet, Xiangling tbh

[sage kernel]

has anyone tested charlottes cryo application? i want to know if it makes diluc melt viable

[sick quarry]

No one answered so I tested it myself, I like nahida on proto Amber more than baizhu. Kuki is the other healer.

[small blade]

Haven't tried it in diluc melt but the cryo application is not great. Better to keep using Rosaria

[sage kernel]

ok

[faint linden]

[sage kernel]

unironically considering sucrose on amber

[novel charm]

Whats the use of jean in furina team?? I keep seeing people use her

[sage kernel]

team wide healing and vv shred

[novel charm]

Doesnt furina heals?

[pastel zealot]

Jean can provide wide team healing

[sage kernel]

she can but the mode you want her on shreds hp

[craggy siren]

fun fact, her healing mode doesn't generate energy at all

[sage kernel]

and the better your healer, the more damage she can give

[pastel zealot]

You'd want furina on ousia which drains hp, so you'd want another healer

[sage kernel]

wanted jean but hoyoverse gave me a 3rd catalyst from standard banner

[pastel zealot]

Basically like her pneuma arkhe is useless somehow

[sick quarry]

is charlotte good with ayaka or is diona better

[sage kernel]

from what ive seen charlotte can actually do a bit of damage because she scales with atk

[pastel zealot]

Im thinking of doing ayaka furina charlotte kazu anyways

[sick quarry]

so shes better than diona?

[novel charm]

Ohh so would neu furina jean idk team would be good?

[sage kernel]

if you want a shield you wont miss out on too much but i think charlotte is better

[thorn scaffold]

SO not the biggest moment i been waiting for, how does Furina work with Neuvilette ?

[sick quarry]

okay thanks

[sage kernel]

charlottes healing is much better

[unkempt river]

I will, but what's the best team I could make with Furina?

[sage kernel]

you can also use thrilling tales on charlotte if you want to sweat lol

[sick quarry]

is this team okay? ayaka, charlotte, xing qiu, sucrose

[sage kernel]

seems good to me

[sick quarry]

*am going to pull kokomi when rerun

[sage kernel]

if kokomi replaces xingqiu you can use a more offensive cryo user like rosaria

[sick quarry]

okay

[small blade]

Why? What team are you using?

[small blade]

Afaik furina is a big dmg increase with c1 neuv. Otherwise its not that much better

[thorn scaffold]

I see

[craggy siren]

furina is pretty good for activating 2 hydro bonus for both of them

[narrow folio]

Same way she works with everyone else, Neuv can get stacks for Furina's buff really well though because of his own kit

[thorn scaffold]

but i am curious why c1 is better? tho i have him c1

oh is it becuase of Neuvilette stack?

[narrow folio]

I don't have Neuv and haven't read his cons so I'm not sure, I just know the two of them have really good synergy

[thorn scaffold]

I think it was that if he was matched with another Hydro, it would been better having him as C1 since he stacks on elements.

[wet pelican]

So i didnt play for 1 month now and maybe i want to pull for Furina can someone give a breakdown on furina ?

[narrow folio]

press e, drain health, press q, changes in hp give buff

That's as simple as her kit gets

[jolly junco]

basically she's an off-field damage dealer who provides a teamwide damage buff based on your party's HP changes

[wet pelican]

Changed? So like if a party member gets healed or takes dmg?

[narrow folio]

Yes

[jolly junco]

yup, any changes in HP will be taken into account for fanfare stacks

[narrow folio]

Which is why running a teamwide healer is recommended

[wet pelican]

Ok thx guys

[narrow folio]

Or someone who heals a lot even if in ST

[sage kernel]

anyone tried furina with xiao? she good enough to replace anyone?

[wet pelican]

Only barbara then right?

[narrow folio]

Jean, Baizhu, Mika, Charlotte

[wet pelican]

Oh right forgot they could heal teamwide

[narrow folio]

Barbara is like the least recommended because of her ER reqs

[jolly junco]

Barbara is a bit scuffed because her skill doesn't generate any energy so bursting every rotation could be a problem, but if you can meet her ER requirement to do that then she's alright for furina yeah

[unkempt river]

What's the best team I can make with Furina?

[wet pelican]

Thx both of u helped me alot

[narrow folio]

No problem

[jolly junco]

I have not but she should work pretty well, you could do something like xiao, bennett, faruzan (c6), furina

furina would most likely be on fav sword

[narrow folio]

It's always fav

You can't escape it

[sage kernel]

yeh shame bennet is so good because i team wide healer would be nice but bennet is irreplacable here

[jolly junco]

you could use jean over bennett, but I don't think she would be better

[sage kernel]

agreed

[narrow folio]

Jean stonks are wild right now, everyone's investing into her

[sage kernel]

couldve been me but no. funny r2 catalyst instead

[narrow folio]

I'm kinda glad they are letting less used characters take the spotlight for once

[jolly junco]

it's pretty nice that furina has made some of the more ignored characters gain in popularity

[narrow folio]

Same brain

[small blade]

[sage kernel]

i was thinking qiqi would finally get some recognition, but somehow charlotte is just better 💀

[unkempt river]

How do you change Furinas Arkhe alignment under water?

[narrow folio]

Qiqi is like bottom tier for healers you wanna pair with Furina

[sage kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-shibuya-shibuya-arc-gif-14657388738692713231

[narrow folio]

You can't I don't think

[deep walrus]

Isn't she like one of the fastest healer ?

[unkempt river]

Help?

[sage kernel]

if qiqi is on field her healing is probably the best in the game

but why qiqi on field

[deep walrus]

Qiqi hyperbloom

I guess

xD

[narrow folio]

The isn't isn't how fast, it's that her healing is ST and isn't as efficient for getting fanfare stacks

[deep walrus]

What team you suggest for furina ?

[small blade]

I don't see any functioning Furina team you can make that won't be worse than other options

[primal latch]

U can pretty much walk on water 100% with furina?

[narrow folio]

Hu Tao, Furina, Jean, Yelan
Noelle on MH, Gorou, Yun Jin, Furina
Yoimiya, Yun Jin, Jean, Furina
Tighnari, Baizhu, Furina, Raiden/Fischl
Xiao, Bennett, C6 Faruzan, Furina

[sage kernel]

yeh new meta is to run to water and not fight

[narrow folio]

That's a few options

[opal surge]

ok but they dont have any of those options

i guess they have tighnari

[narrow folio]

Did they show their character list? I was just listing teams

[sage kernel]

what is MH for noelle?

[primal latch]

What mh?

[narrow folio]

marachaussee

[deep walrus]

Marechusse hunter

[opal surge]

i thought the qiqi Hyperbloom discussion was a result of the guy asking for furina options

[sage kernel]

ahh ok

[opal surge]

[sage kernel]

and that is better than husk? zamn

[narrow folio]

Wasn't really paying attention so I dunno

[opal surge]

maybe it wasnt actually

[narrow folio]

I wouldn't say it's better, it's just easy to get max stacks with Furina and Noelle

[opal surge]

[sage kernel]

ok fair

[deep walrus]

Xiao team seems less optimal, no shielder
I guess I'll run mono hydro till I get a good synergy character

[unkempt river]

What's the best Furina team I can make? What are the other options you're thinking of? What do I need to make a good Furina team?

[sage kernel]

as an itto main im starting to feel threatened by the noelle mains

[opal surge]

Did someone calc haitham quickbloom with furina instead of yelan yet

fischl is certaintly better

[narrow folio]

Well when you slot Furina you're giving up your shield

[small blade]

Use Furina, Yelan, Bennet, Xiangling and pretend Furina is contributing a lot

[bitter solstice]

Is furina any good?

[narrow folio]

Yes

[bitter solstice]

Whats her kit?

[unkempt river]

You need a good team to use her to her utmost tho

[bitter solstice]

Hydro applier?

[narrow folio]

Not even close

[opal surge]

like all hydro characters she does indeed apply hydro

[bitter solstice]

Dps?

[narrow folio]

Buffer

[sage kernel]

sub dps buffer

[bitter solstice]

Ah cool

[unkempt river]

Aight, what are the other teams you mentioned? I have my old vape team with XQ, Yelan, XL and Benny. And my aggravate team with Tigh, Lisa, Fischl and Sayu

[narrow folio]

Unlike other hydro characters, her application is sub par

If you play her in certain teams though she can keep up with them

[small blade]

I don't think there is anything else you can do thats worth playing

[sage kernel]

does xiangling snapshot mona's omen?

[opal surge]

Its not a buff on her, its a debuff on the enemy, so no

[small blade]

that can't be snapshot

[sage kernel]

oh really i didnt know

[small blade]

Even Yelan's buff won't snapshot

[honest heart]

oof

[sage kernel]

i still barely understand mona's burst

[honest heart]

finished archon quest

my eye's pain

[narrow folio]

no spoilers

[honest heart]

dw i wont say

im here on furina stuff

also hidden how good did your furina hit

[lyric cargo]

did the charlotte tryout. not sure how much I like the Neuvilette-style "move while you cast" on her, having to hold down E while moving with WASD is

[opal surge]

Whats the verdict on charlotte actually, she looks pretty good on paper

[narrow folio]

Doesn't her hold E take like five seconds? And she generates like no particles

[sage kernel]

qiqi but fixed

[opal surge]

her hold takes 2 and it generates particles as long as u hold e

[lyric cargo]

don't like that they made her an atk scaler
prototype amber and ttds would've been good weapons on her if she was hp scaling

[narrow folio]

Qiqi was never broken, it just all she does is heal while other healers provided more utility

[sage kernel]

she doesnt even heal team wide though, only when on field

charlotte heals timewide and deals damage, and can hold ttds for other characters

[warped oracle]

both her skill when taped and held generate particals, the held having more

[lyric cargo]

also, unlike Neuv her move speed in that mode seems to be reduced

[sage kernel]

forgive my qiqi denial

[ashen light]

Kokomi on R5 TTDS and C6 Rosaria on R5 fav...

replaced with Furina on R1 dockhand (it's better than R5 fav, right?) and C1 Charlotte on R5 fav.

would Ganyu be better off with this replacement?

[warped oracle]

3 when taped, 5 when helf

[narrow folio]

I have C6 Charlotte and did zero research into her

[lyric cargo]

I got c1

[narrow folio]

[sage kernel]

she is a dps

best in slot with ocean hued clam

[lyric cargo]

what

[warped oracle]

what

[sage kernel]

source: trust me bro

[lyric cargo]

I don't think she's a dps

[warped oracle]

she's a healer

if you want a dps use rosaria

[sage kernel]

anyone is a dps if you want them to be

[narrow folio]

Regardless she's staying at level 20 until I decide she can be useful

[honest heart]

yo how is ur furina damage

[lyric cargo]

my furina dmg is [still farming the boss to ascend her]
lvl60 now

[warped oracle]

true but your statement is misleading

[thorn knoll]

does furina work well with ayaka permafreeze or with hutao vape?

[sage kernel]

joke

[warped oracle]

she works well with both

[narrow folio]

From personal testing, yes she works with Hu Tao but not having grouping in freeze made me wanna game end myself

[thorn knoll]

if i dont have a healer on either team would it still work well? like eg hutao xingqiu furina zhongli

[warped oracle]

hu tao maybe less so because I don't think you can get the full strength of her kit

[warped oracle]

yeah that works fine

[sage kernel]

she drains hp though

[thorn scaffold]

You have to finish story mode to get to the Hydro Tuipa?

[narrow folio]

Not really, you need a healer to maximize Fanfare

[warped oracle]

she's also a healer if you need her to be

it's not ideal, which is why I said she's not gonna be used to her full strength

[lyric cargo]

if you don't have a healer, you lose her buff and a good part of her personal damage

[sage kernel]

for comfort defo
but for efficiency ive heard you should just ignore the healing its a massive dps loss

[warped oracle]

also in a hu tao team with zhongli damage isn't a problem

[lyric cargo]

at that point, use xq/yelan

[thorn knoll]

the only healer i have is barbara or qiqi
wait
could ayaka furina qiqi and sucrose work as a f2p 😭

[warped oracle]

I would use xingqiu and yelan over furina too

[warped oracle]

for general content yes but good luck with abyss

qiqi is... bad

[lyric cargo]

qiqi driver could work, but you'd have to on-field her
idk if that can work with ayaka

[sage kernel]

if you get charlotte she would be much better than qiqi with furina

[thorn knoll]

man general content could be cleared with 4 stars

[warped oracle]

yep!

[thorn knoll]

hmmm okay i think ill skip furina and get yelan for hutao vape

[sage kernel]

both are rly good

[opal surge]

Did you not get a charlotte?

[thorn knoll]

yeah but without a healer everyone would js be 0 hp

[warped oracle]

they haven't pulled yet

[thorn knoll]

i hacent even opened genshin

[sage kernel]

if you are pulling for furina chances are youll get a charlotte

[thorn knoll]

what element is she again

[warped oracle]

she does eventually stop damaging the team

[opal surge]

cryo

[sage kernel]

charlotte is cryo

[craggy siren]

furina hp drain stops at 50% though

[thorn knoll]

hmmmm

[sage kernel]

unlike qiqi she gives team wide healing which furina rly wants

[thorn knoll]

is charlotte good?

[sage kernel]

on field ^

[warped oracle]

but once you reach that point Furina is gonna be really weak

[warped oracle]

for ayaka, furina and sucrose? yes

[oblique veldt]

jenshin help
What's better for C2 Furina
Hydro dmg or HP% goblet

[craggy siren]

if you go nuts on furina banner and get c6 charlotte, she does heal the active character if they hit enemies affected by her e i think

[thorn knoll]

man wtf do i do i have 3 possible teams cus ive only pulled ayaka wanderer hutao and zhongli as a f2p, i currently use wanderer hypercarry and hutao vape and i was thinking of getting hutao premium team cuz i only need yelan

[sage kernel]

wow might aswell just throw qiqis kit with charlotte

[narrow folio]

By the way Furina's buff makes up for Hu Tao being above 50%

[sage kernel]

charlotte is the 5 star qiqi

[narrow folio]

They're comparable at C2 just go off of subs

[warped oracle]

holy shit I can count the pixels

[narrow folio]

Yeah video compressed cuz I'm on my old phone

[bright holly]

Is there a “best” kuki hyperbloom team?

[sage kernel]

mobile player spotted

[narrow folio]

PS5

[thorn knoll]

anyone?

[oblique veldt]

both goblets are kind of same stats, eh i guess i'll farm more

[deep walrus]

How much CA hutao doing ? Cant see the number ?

[warped oracle]

nopre, each team has it's own strengths

[warped oracle]

also I swear hu tao is above 50% in that video

[bright holly]

Is kuki, yelan, kokomi, nahida good or is there someone good to replace one of them?

[opal surge]

Nahida XQ Kuki is the best hyperbloom core the 4th slot kind of doesnt matter at all tbh

[warped oracle]

but I can't tell because the equality is so bad

[narrow folio]

She is

[deep walrus]

Guys how long is 4.2 archon quest ?

[craggy siren]

you don't "need" yelan for hutao

[narrow folio]

I used Jeans burst

[opal surge]

4-5 hours

If you're paying attention and not skipping through

[sage kernel]

hu tao with furina is basically giving up her under 50% niche style

[narrow folio]

Is the video that bad? It looks fine to me

[warped oracle]

that's a fine team, I don't think you need kokomi however

[deep walrus]

I mean kuki kokomi both healer, idk if you need 2 healer at once

[opal surge]

Hu Tao is already pretty good with bennet, so its not unheard of to play hutao above 50%

[sage kernel]

true

[bright holly]

Who would be better then

[bright holly]

Like Collei?

[warped oracle]

who do you have?

[narrow folio]

Rough

[deep walrus]

Which weapon is this ? 72k ca

[narrow folio]

Well I'm not home right now so my quality takes a hit

[warped oracle]

send your character list

[thorn knoll]

what do i do i have 3 possible teams cus ive only pulled ayaka wanderer hutao and zhongli as a f2p, i currently use wanderer hypercarry and hutao vape and i was thinking of getting hutao premium team cuz i only need yelan

[bright holly]

Not alhaitham

[primal bough]

should i go for furina to put on my wriothesley team?

[deep walrus]

What's your hutao weapon

[narrow folio]

Homa

[thorn knoll]

such a late reply 😭 holdon

[warped oracle]

I'm multitasking sorry

[copper solar]

Can you take flowers from other people worlds because ea h time I join there's none?

[deep walrus]

With homa 72k CA ? Great but you can do even more

[narrow folio]

You can, someone else probably just took them first

[craggy siren]

they have furina too

[warped oracle]

?

[copper solar]

I've join like 5 people and they told they haven't been gotten anything from that location

[narrow folio]

I do more dmg in double hydro, I'm just showing she works with Furina

[deep walrus]

She works but not optimal team
Seems furina is designed considering hutao not getting more buff xD

[narrow folio]

Well I'm not gonna pull for a character and not use them

[brittle terrace]

someone can help me beat hydro tulpa? please help me, my uid : 858069434 asia server

[thorn knoll]

#👥gimshim-coop

[brittle terrace]

okey

[warped oracle]

imo your two prime teams are
Wanderer, Faruzan, Bennett, Layla
Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Surcrose, Zhongli
you could also do
Tighnari, Lisa, Fischl and a flex
you could also do diluc melt with c2 surcose and rosaria

[unkempt river]

The flex slot for Tigh, Lisa, Fischl could be Sayu for VV shred

[deep walrus]

Sucrose national
Wanderer double pyro
Wanderer faruzan bennet thoma
Tighnari fishl diona dmc
Thoma sucrose xinqiu hutao
Keqing dmc anemo fishl

[narrow folio]

That's strange then honestly

[warped oracle]

or zhongli

[unkempt river]

true, but heals are useful

[warped oracle]

ok but it's zhongli

[unkempt river]

Sayus heal scales on atk, right? So it's better to use atk goblet rather than anemo dmg, right?

[warped oracle]

you don't need healers with zhongli

[warped oracle]

yes, or you could triple EM but it's a bit worse for healing

[small blade]

in that hu tao team its better to use fischl instead of sucrose or amber/benner/thoma instead of zhongli

[unkempt river]

I need Sayu to heal haha, so full atk?

[warped oracle]

you may need an ER main stat and you could run a healing bonus cicuit

[warped oracle]

yeah

[unkempt river]

yeahhh, I use sac for the er

[warped oracle]

what's your rotation?

[thorn knoll]

i use those exact teams but instead of sucrose i use yunjin in tge hutao team for double geo vape i do 60k CAs without homa

[thorn knoll]

for the hutao team? it usually goes zhongli e into xingqiu e q into yunjin e tap q into hutao CAs

[warped oracle]

oh no, I was asking Ulti

[thorn knoll]

oh mb

[warped oracle]

no worries, this chat can get confusing

[unkempt river]

Yeah haha, uhm. Well I just need sayu for healing to slot her into my Furina team

Not the best team I can make, but I wanna use Furina haha

[warped oracle]

you may be better off with Fav or Katsuragikiri

[unkempt river]

The what?

[warped oracle]

Katsuragikiri Nagamasa, you can craft it

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Katsuragikiri_Nagamasa

[unkempt river]

ahh that one

I was gonna get that and I did the furnace 7 day quest but I got no blueprint so I kinda left it haha

Ohh I need to enter the arsenal?

[warped oracle]

I would just stick to sac then

I would slap a ER sands on her however

[unkempt river]

What's the best team with Furina in your opinion?

[warped oracle]

no clue man

she's been out fot less then 24 hours, and I don't even have her

[unkempt river]

We can agree on, Furina, Yelan and Sayu?

But I need a fourth good one

[deep walrus]

Probably cyno furina baizhu flex
Or mono hydro

[small blade]

Sayu isn't a good healer for her. I'd rather use Charlotte

[unkempt river]

sayu isn't?

Huh damn. Gotta build Charlotte then? Who else with charlotte, yelan and furina?

[steady shuttle]

How good is Furina? I have been away since 3.6 but am feeling compelled to login and PULL

[thorn knoll]

maybe try xiangling for vapes melts and the occasional freeze

[warped oracle]

no bennett so I wouldn't rec XL

[deep walrus]

Good but weird to see an archon with ER issue in kit

[narrow folio]

She's pretty good

[small blade]

Another cryo maybe like Rosaria

[small blade]

ER issue?

[warped oracle]

Venti?

[narrow folio]

?

[craggy siren]

an anemo for vv maybe?

[narrow folio]

She doesn't have ER issues

[warped oracle]

doesn't Venti and Furina have abou the same ER reqs

[narrow folio]

Furina is 160 with a fav user in double hydro

[deep walrus]

Venti never felt had ER issue
He actually kinda works as battery to the element his burst infused on

[narrow folio]

I don't think any of them have ER issues

And anyway you're using an ER weapon on Furina if you don't have her sig

[deep walrus]

Double hydro, then also fav
Look at nahida raiden zhongli

[warped oracle]

you've just got to be mindful of their ER, like every other character

an actual ER issue would be c0 yae miko or faruzan

those characters have actaul issues you need to build around

[narrow folio]

Zero particles and high burst cost

[small blade]

She might have high ER req in some cases but its certainly not an issue

[warped oracle]

yae miko makes sense to have a 90 burst cost but the fact she didn't come with a built in passive to help reduce that was wild

[small blade]

using her with fischl or Raiden helps

[narrow folio]

Using her with Fischl or Raiden is almost mandatory

[warped oracle]

yeha but thats why they did it, she was given a 90 burst cost to combo with raiden

but it hurt all her team comps

that's why it makes sense, but was also wild

[deep walrus]

Because you can use her for just skill and it'll still work

[narrow folio]

Are you trying to make an argument for Furina having ER issues but Yae being fine?

[deep walrus]

I mean furina burst is necessary for the buff but not yae

Though it sounds like I'm being hypocrite xD

But furina is an archon, I am talking on basis of archon standard

[craggy siren]

fun fact, yae's burst doesn't have icd, so you can aggrevate 3 times with it

[sleek yew]

Any character good for using baizhu signature wep?

[narrow folio]

No

[opal surge]

Baizhu

[deep walrus]

Kokofish barbara maybe

[sleek yew]

[warped oracle]

oh buddy...

[sleek yew]

What should i do with this then

[deep walrus]

Don't refine please

[narrow folio]

TTDS better

[craggy siren]

at least you got her weapon

[sleek yew]

What about skyward?

[warped oracle]

Jadefall's Splendor is.... bad

like really bad

[sleek yew]

Lost both to baizhu

[warped oracle]

who ever designed it should be ashamed

[small blade]

skyward bow is a pretty good stat stick. Good for Fischl

[warped oracle]

you should triple crown kujou sara and put it on her

I'm not bias

[sleek yew]

Ah okay good then

Whats furina best artif?

[warped oracle]

yeah just use it as a stat stick for any bow character

[narrow folio]

golden troupe

[sleek yew]

Crap need to farm

[sleek yew]

What about her best team compo?

[narrow folio]

Depends on what you have, she works with most on fielders though

[shy ore]

If I lose the 50/50, will I get my next limited 5 star early?

[small blade]

no

[warped oracle]

if you pray and god hears your prays then yeah!

[shy ore]

Ok then, what are the chances of getting a 5 star early tho

[small blade]

36% to get a 5 star before hitting soft pity iirc

[minor gale]

what does a dps build nahida and her team look like?

[opal surge]

my daily comission is blocking the furina story quest

Even tho I already have all my comissions done

[small blade]

4pc gilded EM/Dendro/Crit ig

[sick quarry]

Can anyone explain furina to me in razor terms😭 i read over her abilities n stuff but im kinda dumb🧍‍♂️

[neon harness]

Nahida kuki/ zhongli yae fischl maybe

[narrow folio]

press e, drain health, press q, changes in hp give buff

[small blade]

press E also do dmg and apply some hydro

[sick quarry]

Tyy

[honest heart]

how is it

also guys do you suggest c2 or weapon

[narrow folio]

Ratio is good but you probably want more ER

[narrow folio]

And if you're set on getting one then I'd say C2

[honest heart]

ok neat

and im set on geting c6 (i cant on this so c6 on rerun)

[narrow folio]

[honest heart]

also i run double hydro

[narrow folio]

Still want more

[honest heart]

i did a rotation and i dont seem to have energy issue

ok

btw team is furina kokomi kazuha and (some random sub dps)

altho my koko mi is shittier than my amber

[bitter geode]

Do iron sting passive apply to the user only or the whole party?

[subtle drift]

whats a good Furina weapon aside from her bis and festering desire cos i dont have it

[amber delta]

I got dced before I was able to claim a chest in a story domain. Is there anyway I can get back to it like re enter the domain?

[small blade]

only user

[remote palm]

Did a hu Tao skin ever release?

Like with ayaka

[small blade]

Fleuve

[small blade]

no

[small blade]

If you finished the story quest already, you can't

[amber delta]

I haven't finish the story quest

[bitter geode]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-pipe-gif-27050590

[amber delta]

But i "finished" the domain

[remote palm]

Okay, thx

[amber delta]

I wasn't able to get the last chest

[small blade]

I don't think you can get it anymore

[umbral sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-love-funny-fun-meme-gif-27687103

[lusty tulip]

How is this build?

[small blade]

favge better trust

[vague umbra]

I'm still new to genshin and dunno how to team build, I'm gonna be getting Furina guaranteed in a couple of pulls, and I want to use her + Kokomi. Not doing anything difficult, just for general exploration. What 2 other characters would be best to pair with them? ty to anyone that answers in advance

[subtle drift]

how good is it

[small blade]

Lvl weapon and get a better feather, looks good if you have enough ER

[small blade]

Best 4 star after festering pretty much

[lusty tulip]

okay tyy

[small blade]

for exploration Sayu and lynette will be useful

[umbral sedge]

[small blade]

50 cv cryo goblet where

blizzard furina where

[dusty cape]

du

[small blade]

you should

[neon harness]

du

[true holly]

hello is it worth to pull for x2

c2*

[dusty cape]

hit u with that dudududu

[true holly]

yes

[neon harness]

[dusty cape]

[small blade]

its a good constellation but not as impactful to the team as Nahida or Raiden c2

[true holly]

i see, ty!

[opal surge]

is the fountain now uncapped?

[small blade]

no

[opal surge]

Is it 40 now

[small blade]

yes

[opal surge]

[narrow folio]

It lets you get a stupid amount of HP though

[small blade]

[velvet inlet]

no where near as nilou XD

[dusty cape]

[narrow folio]

I mean Nilou has HP ascension

So it makes sense

I think its a little less than a Nilou without Key

[haughty lotus]

Whaled on bp

[small blade]

whalzhe

[thorn scaffold]

Would Furina be nice unite for defeating the seahorse?

[small blade]

not really no

[narrow folio]

If she's buffing someone who can break it's shield

[thorn scaffold]

how bout Xaingling, bennet and benny?

with FUrina

[velvet inlet]

2 benny?

[thorn scaffold]

i mean nahida*

[velvet inlet]

damn i wish i have 2 benny as well

[haughty lotus]

Who tf would ever r5 that

[dusty cape]

Yozhe.

[haughty lotus]

Du.

[dusty cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1075686801886429185.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[thorn scaffold]

guess forever stuck deahorse

seahorse*

[dusty cape]

seahonse*

[haughty lotus]

Xiangling and nahida should be able to break it really fast

[small blade]

Can you show your characters?

[haughty lotus]

[haughty lotus]

What AR are you

[thorn scaffold]

57

yes, i dominate other with Neuvilette

c1 neuvielette + r1

[small blade]

Tighnari/Ayaka freeze/National should easily beat it

[haughty lotus]

Level your Bennett a lot more before trying it again

[thorn scaffold]

Do i also need to have skill higer than 6 ?

[small blade]

Only burst, atleast lvl 9

[thorn scaffold]

my Tigh low 😦

I tried ino dmg (

[small blade]

[thorn scaffold]

i can try again

[small blade]

Might be a build issue. Or you are not using Ayaka's burst at the correct time

[haughty lotus]

Try a national team and just onfield Bennett until the core breaks

[thorn scaffold]

At what time should it been used?

[haughty lotus]

After it’s shield is down

[thorn scaffold]

Ayaka, rosaria Mona and Benny?

[small blade]

definitely not when it is flying

[thorn scaffold]

But dont i have to deal dmg to put it down?

[haughty lotus]

No, Bennett xiangling xingqiu flex

[thorn scaffold]

put the shield down*

[haughty lotus]

No, you have have to apply enough of pyro/cryo/dendro

[thorn scaffold]

i see

[small blade]

it will take some time. Just keep spamming bennet's skill

[thorn scaffold]

i try

[thorn scaffold]

Ohhhh i see, beny E efficent.

[astral sphinx]

Pain

[haughty lotus]

It’s only 8 crit damage

du not do it brother

[proven remnant]

if I were to invest in a green archer, C2 collei or tighnari? or do they wind up filling different roles

[hazy thistle]

where is this

[daring beacon]

Is furina or nahida c2 stronger

[hazy thistle]

learn from my mistakes brother

20 days for 80 wishes

i wont' gib up

[haughty lotus]

Collei is a dendro applier/ sub dps and tighnari and a Quickswap dps

[faint linden]

How good or bad is the new phone character

[narrow folio]

phone?

[faint linden]

What roll does she play

Photo*

[narrow folio]

She decent, she heals

[faint linden]

Kamara girl

Worth to build or not?

Hey you gone?

[velvet inlet]

that apply to every healer

do you like the way she heal go for it she also pair well with furina

[narrow folio]

I was busy, I'd say she's pretty good for a four star healer

I haven't done much research about her though

I just know the bare minimum

[velvet inlet]

atk scaler/healer she have nuke heal and continuous healing after

but all of her heal are tied with ult so it have down time

and her hold skill took loog ass time to ready up

but you have to do it for 5 particle

[thorn scaffold]

IF Furina ends up not being the Archon, and genshin be like sikee someone else is the archon, could u ask for refound 💀 ?

[rugged sparrow]

what kind of question is even that

[narrow folio]

What?

[thorn scaffold]

never mind lol

[dusty cape]

bruhzoom

[thorn scaffold]

what cons should i get Furina or should i focus on her signature ?Or does she need cons/ signature?

[keen condor]

I’m can get furina by the end of her banner does she work with anyone here

[neon wave]

weapon banner is pretty bad, she doesn't need cons but they're nice if you want them

[keen condor]

If u need I can tell you what cons everyone has

[neon harness]

The weapon banner rn is rly ass, imo wait for her rerun to get her weapon

[neon harness]

She prolly works with nuevi but don’t quote me on that

[thorn scaffold]

which cons?

[thorn scaffold]

smart

[keen condor]

Is that it?

No other teams?

[velvet inlet]

dehya also there

but i dont think you willling to invest on dehya

[keen condor]

Finally my talent lv 8 8 8 dehya is useable

[keen condor]

Dehya Benny Jean furina I assume

Or replace Benny with kazu

[neon wave]

don't know enough to make a recommendation tbh, c1 to c3 are all pretty solid afaik, c4+ is mostly geared towards her own personal damage

[velvet inlet]

kazuha instead of jean also works

[keen condor]

Isn’t Jean like insane with furina

[velvet inlet]

you most likey to quick swap in dehya down time anyway

[keen condor]

Also by any chance can she support yoimia

[thorn scaffold]

thanks for ur input

[velvet inlet]

and remember that dehya heal herself when low

that's also help with furina stack

[keen condor]

Oh okay

I’ll just pull furina because of the archon quest

I pull characters based on how much I like them story wise

[velvet inlet]

veri wise

[haughty lotus]

All of them that do damage

[keen condor]

Exept ayato i wanted fun sword man

[velvet inlet]

i pull brat so this thing works on klee

[keen condor]

It fits very well

[velvet inlet]

in hindsight wrio weapon seen to be better stat stick for her then tome

[keen condor]

Anyways gn I gtg

https://tenor.com/view/yoimiya-genshin-impact-spin-gif-24585095

[velvet ingot]

why would you farm that domain?
just strongbox

[velvet inlet]

electro and pyro bad

cryo and hydro good

[velvet ingot]

so farm something else and put that into strongbox

it's not

[velvet inlet]

that domain have 50% chance to drop a set that no chatacter use

[velvet ingot]

if you farm something super high efficiency like emblem or deepwood, it can actually be more efficient

[velvet ingot]

*except klee and dehya

[haughty lotus]

Dehya?

[velvet inlet]

dehya already have her own set mate

[velvet ingot]

and the thing about the cwof domain is that it's a pain to clear even if you do have ganyu, because the enemies spawn so far away

[unkempt river]

So anyone got any good f2p friendly Raiden teams?

[velvet ingot]

dawg you're coping 💀

[velvet inlet]

rational

[velvet ingot]

drop the roster mate

[velvet inlet]

how can it cope when the set is made to fully use her kit

[copper mist]

Lyney on lavawalker

Vape furina

[unkempt river]

This question is for my brothers acc. He wants to wish for either Nahida or Raiden (mostly Raiden) but doesn't know which teams he could make with her. He's also only Ar-37.

[copper mist]

I mean if you put like xiangling kazuha or something sure she does

[haughty lotus]

Forgot vape Nilou

[copper mist]

she will vape all night

[velvet ingot]

drop his* roster mate

[copper mist]

True

My furina pulls went too well man

I think I used up all my luck

[velvet ingot]

also off the bat ima make the broad suggestion that nahida offers slightly more account value than raiden
but none of the archons are bad by any means

[velvet inlet]

no shot furina can get rid of the pyro aura in this team

[velvet ingot]

emblem performs better generally, lavawalker performs better in mono pyro

[haughty lotus]

No it doesn’t?

[copper mist]

With fischl maybe

[unkempt river]

Very few characters

[copper mist]

Fischl eats pyro

[velvet ingot]

what doesn't?

i'm talking about on-field dps

[haughty lotus]

Both emblem and glow are better than lavawalker regardless of the situation

[velvet inlet]

unit ready for raiden national tho

veri f2p team

[velvet ingot]

huh?

[haughty lotus]

Do you remember what lavawalker does lmao

[unkempt river]

Hm? Unit?

[velvet inlet]

i mean character

[unkempt river]

Raiden, XQ, XL and Benny?

[velvet inlet]

yep

[unkempt river]

Overload, hmm

Isn't that an annoying reaction?

[velvet ingot]

hmmmmmmm
well the best team for raiden would be rational (raiden national) with raiden xq xl bennett
for nahida we could do nahida lisa fischl jean or mix and match between electro, hydro, and anemo characters for either hyperbloom, quickbloom, aggravate, or spread teams
the possibilities with nahida are only limited by your imagination. And roster.

[dark shadow]

Hp or hydro goblet for furina?

[haughty lotus]

Hp, at c2 hydro becomes around the same

[unkempt river]

Wow okay. So he can wish for any of them and have good teams. Noice.

[velvet ingot]

Raiden has infinite poise during her burst, it's not that big of a deal
Besides, if it came down to using raiden against an enemy, they're probably too tanky to be tossed around

[unkempt river]

gotcha

[velvet ingot]

like i said, I'd put nahida at a slightly higher priority than raiden

[unkempt river]

What about a good Furina team?

[velvet ingot]

they're both technically supports who happen to do a ton of damage
but nahida is a lot more flexible

[velvet ingot]

general framework i've seen ppl do for c0 furina is furina healer flex flex

[unkempt river]

What could the flexes be?

[velvet ingot]

That's the thing

they're flex units

as in flexible

[haughty lotus]

Furina sayu yelan xingqiu/fischl

[unkempt river]

Yeah, but what would you reccomend?

[unkempt river]

So mono hydro or tazer

[copper mist]

Taser yea

[unkempt river]

I thnk I should use Fischl instead of xq since there are a lot of hydro res enemies in fontaine smh

[copper mist]

I might build Mika just for my Yoimiya team lmao

Apparently he heals a lot

And gives attack speed

[haughty lotus]

Yeah his burst heals a lot

Might wanna just use jean tho

[copper mist]

Yeah but you can't double swirl anyway

And she doesn't give attack speed

[haughty lotus]

No c2?

[copper mist]

Oh wait

Yeah but you gotta catch the particles

[narrow folio]

Who's healing then?

[copper mist]

Which is annoying

[haughty lotus]

Then catch them

[narrow folio]

Yes

[copper mist]

But true

I forgor my jean C4

[deft sandal]

guys is it normal that this is like the third one am installing ?

[velvet ingot]

surprise surprise, a long forgotten character is now rising to the meta

[obtuse gale]

sooo what is the verdict? is hu tao with furina better than hu tao with the old xq/yelan/zl?

[copper mist]

Anyone with furina is better you just need a healer and to not die

There is your answer

[velvet inlet]

i'm so happy i can see this 3 symbol on klee XD

[unkempt river]

What about the rotation?

[narrow folio]

Jean stonks through the roof

[velvet ingot]

i'd still go with hu tao xq yelan zl
furina seems a bit too risky to play with hu tao
cuz your hp has to keep fluctuating, which hu tao doesn't appreciate

[obtuse gale]

hmm wdyt abt that @copper mist

[copper mist]

Yeah as I said

If you don't die which will be hard in such a team

[velvet ingot]

plus you need a healer

[copper mist]

Your team dps will be quite a bit higher

[velvet ingot]

which hu tao doesn't like

[copper mist]

Well healer is not an issue for hu tao

[haughty lotus]

I imagine Furina eq > sayu eq > xingqiu eq > yelan eq/ fischl e

[velvet ingot]

for the hu taos with er, yea
but i've seen plenty of ppl ditching burst entirely

[copper mist]

Bennett is great with Hu Tao anyway, ofc Bennett not ideal in that team

Yeah I think that's just sad but yeah

Can hardly fail them for going for resin efficient set

[unkempt river]

So I'd get hydro res shred, gotcha

[copper mist]

Hu Tao Kokomi Yelan Furina real

[narrow folio]

You'd probably use Jean over Kokomi there

[dusty cape]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865772611400368169/1155257355911569468/du.gif

[obtuse gale]

oki so i furina gives a few extra dps if played fully correctly which needs you to go crackhead sweat mode

or xq yelan zl team that allows you to chill

for maybe -1% less dmg

[narrow folio]

I mean it's not that difficult to play Hu Tao without a shield

[obtuse gale]

this vs this

[zealous ledge]

Literally my thoughts lool

[copper mist]

Has anyone met Liam yet

[velvet inlet]

yes

[copper mist]

Probably more than 1% but yea

[copper mist]

He is funny

Funny oneshot combos

[velvet inlet]

if you mean bounce me around in benny circle

[copper mist]

I was tryna fight him with lag, first game over in what feels like over a year

[velvet inlet]

yes

[dusty cape]

mæth

[velvet ingot]

local legends were a good idea tbh

i thoroughly enjoyed fighting that one mek at the northmost point of the current map

the blubberbeast bosses are annoying tho

[copper mist]

Yeah

Yeah idc for the underwater ones

[rare nest]

Best artifact set + artifact substat for furina??

[narrow folio]

I don't think it's that bad

[copper mist]

Golden Troupe

And she wants mainstats of HP/HP/Crit generally

Subs, crit, ER, HP%

You can use Hydro goblet too it's slightly worse but the difference is not big

[neon harness]

There’s a exp calc but idk where to@find it

[velvet ingot]

unless you're c2

iirc

[neon harness]

Check ur DMs bb

[copper mist]

Yup then I think Hydro is always better

[velvet ingot]

@rare nest just save yourself the hell of goblet farming and go for hp/hp/crit

[copper mist]

It's funny that furinas guests keep attacking stuff like torches and fires etc still making you lose hp

[velvet inlet]

i have this and my hp goblet is trash

[copper mist]

Yeah then Hydro dmg is better

I use furina on 2pc emblem 2pc voorukashas atm

I have not a single good GT piece and I farmed it a decent amount

[velvet inlet]

all of that from me farming for lyney...

[copper mist]

Nice

Bit low on er tho?

Idk her ER reqs exactly

[narrow folio]

160% in double hydro with a fav user

[copper mist]

Yeah so it is a bit low indeed

[velvet inlet]

a bit of manual funneling can fix

[copper mist]

This is with lv 20 sig and lv 60 her

Need to find the plants

[unkempt river]

Would getting the Katsuragikiri Nagamasa be worth it? I need more ER on Sayu tbh

[lyric cargo]

got fav?

healing bonus circlet and atk% goblet would be good, if this is for furina

[narrow folio]

[velvet inlet]

now we'll see if this patch max lv is 40 or 50

[magic bison]

patch notes says 40

[unkempt river]

yep, no idea why I got crit r on her haha

[unkempt river]

Nope :c

Don't take my word but: Hu tao, Xq, Sucrose and someone

[copper mist]

The first one is okay, not great so def take a chance on the second one

[narrow folio]

[copper mist]

Great piece

[broken vault]

Which goblet is better for hu tao, hp or attack?
ik both get outdamaged by pyro bonus, but which one is better anyway?

[hidden frost]

So. I run a xiao hypercarry on my alt,c6 faruzan,c0 xiao with blackcliff,bennett c5 and dehya c0. I was wondering which one to remove for Furina

[narrow folio]

Dehya

[violet gate]

Anenoma plus er atk atk for jean is fine? Shed be on 4pc vv

[sand jolt]

should I use my next guaranteed 5* for furina c0 if I don't have kokomi

so far she seems like a better yelan and kokomi in one to me

I'm f2p btw

[lyric cargo]

she's not really a kokomi, at least not for abyss. In overworld she could probably be your healer (you just switch to healing mode after the battle to top everyone off)

Furina's healing mode generates no particles and doesn't apply hydro, so for abyss you likely wouldn't be using it at all

[sand jolt]

Is she at least a better yelan then?

[opal surge]

Not really

[violet gate]

Generally you'd be pairing furina with another healer anyways so you wouldn't need to use her healing much if i understand correctly

[opal surge]

Shes a different yelan (really she has almost nothing in common with yelan other than off field hydro app)

View her as a damage buffer with relatively slowish offield hydroapp

[sand jolt]

that's the whole point of yelan though

[lyric cargo]

I'd say so, in the right team

[opal surge]

No not at all

Yelans point is to supply pretty good off field hydro app + really good personal damage

Furina is worse in both of these

But she buffs the entire team, not just the onfielder, at the cost of having to run a healer

[lyric cargo]

afaik their hydro app is comparable, they both buff dmg% and Furina's damage is comparable to Yelan's?

[opal surge]

her personal damage and hydro app is lower than yelans (from the calcs I've seen, if accurate)

Personal damage calced with fanfare of course

[sand jolt]

I'm in desperate need of a hydro that can replace xingqiu in either my national team or hyperbloom team

[opal surge]

Yelans damage buff is kinda neglegible imo and furina just teambuffs at the cost of one more slot

[hollow sand]

from what ive seen yelan outdmg furina only if shes with furina

[opal surge]

Oh really? Maybe the calcs Ive seen were premature then

If the above is reliable ignore me, then furina has more personal damage

[lyric cargo]

it's also possible the ones I've seen were

[opal surge]

furina in hyperbloom is fine, but just like yelan its more quickbloomy

[opal surge]

because their hydro app is slower than XQ

Furina in national just seems awkward to me, assuming Furina benny XL + anemo, but maybe with double hydro or sucrose as anemo slot

Else it feels like you spend a lot of time just autoattacking for no real reason if you run kazuha for example

Like quickswappy but you have no skills up when youre swapping

[lyric cargo]

not a lot of direct comparisons in the team dmg calcs I've seen

[opal surge]

I would test it but mine isnt build yet

I have comparable emblem and GT set for yelan and furina rn

Sameish amounts of good rolls

[lyric cargo]

I think she really needs her talent levels tbh. the most anyone can have right now is lvl8 burst lvl6 skill or vice-versa

let me check how the dmg% buff compares

[opal surge]

its 0.21 at level 8 and and 0.23 and 0.25 on level 9 and crown

0.31 if you have constellation + crown

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[narrow folio]

She's neither of those

[narrow folio]

mono hydro

i might try that

[lyric cargo]

the difference constellation 3 makes surprised me. I kinda dismissed it as just a few talent levels but given it's a team dmg buff..

teamwide 24 dmg%

[opal surge]

im still waiting to see calcs if alhaitham quickbloom even calcs higher with furina instead of yelan

the issue is that youd have to replace nahihi with yaoyao

[lyric cargo]

(24 at max stacks, but with c2 that's reasonable)

I haven't seen calcs for spread-quickbloom, only for aggravate-quickbloom

[cursive dagger]

Have they changed anything to do with dailes recently, I kept mine to do with furina for friendship but when I later checked them out I saw i wasnt going to get anything for them and i never claimed anything, I did help with a friends dailes but I'm unsure if I got anything for those

[opal surge]

im guessing the calcs for aggravate quickbloom was with nahihi double electro furina or

[cursive dagger]

Considering I got unlucky and got qiqi I need the primo so that didnt help

[opal surge]

Think its better this way around then spread cuz u can keep nahihi

[lyric cargo]

.

[opal surge]

Oh ye that makes more sense

[unkempt river]

Is the Sword of Narzissenkreuz worth getting? And who uses it?

[lyric cargo]

what do we know?

[unkempt river]

I dunnoh, it's out?

[opal surge]

looks pretty bad

[lyric cargo]

I can't find a fandom article, so I was skeptical if it was public info

guess they haven't gotten around to it

but yeah, that seems like an "I want to use my non-fontaine char in overworld" weapon

[narrow folio]

Did I do it right?

[high palm]

So what’s Furinas team comp rn

[lyric cargo]

I think so. Mono teams should be pretty straightforward

[narrow folio]

I didn't have a proto amber though so Kokomi is just on a level 20 ballad

[lyric cargo]

I might do Furi Jean Xq Yelan if I can convince team 2 it doesn't need a hydro

[lyric cargo]

she can probably slot into many teams, if they can make good use of her dmg% buff

the big restriction is she kinda uses two team slots, as you need to pair her with a healer.

Preferably teamwide healing, and frontload is better than healing over time

[lyric cargo]

Was there a team you had in mind?

[narrow folio]

mono pyro, so true