📌gimshim-help

[sharp saddle]

beidoumain and keqingmain said so under contexts i don't even know,

so rainslasher must be bad

don't bother

[rugged sparrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BeidouMains/comments/q7kmk2/akuoumaru_vs_everything_else_weapon_comparison/

[fading vortex]

got that. rainsplasher ❌
what should i use then? favge or archaic?

[rugged sparrow]

higher ER reqs = Fav

[sharp saddle]

you got to ask those people with a graph. Make sure you ask them about the damn context of the graph too because a graph alone doesn't tell you what it is worth for without it

[rugged sparrow]

it's literally in the thread, lol

The following graphs will compare ALL of Beidou's weapons under the following assumptions:

Level 90 everything, C6 Beidou, R1 weapons unless craftable/event
2 Full Counters, 1 Burst Cast, 11 Discharges
2 Target Scenario
50% DEF and 10% RES
25 good substats distributed between Crit, ATK%, and ER
Highest damaging combo between 2TF2NO2GL for low ER, 4EoSF for high ER
Buff used is 4NO 800 ATK buff Bennett
All info can be found in the Beidou Guide as per usual. Also refer to the Beidou Mastersheet for the calculator. These calcs assume controlled artifacts, so your mileage may vary.```

[quaint fern]

what reaction is it considering? just raw dmg?

[sharp saddle]

the context

Buff used is 4NO 800 ATK buff Bennett

does his team even have Bennett here?

[quaint fern]

nuev doesn't hehe

[zinc needle]

how do u claim?

[fading vortex]

u talking bout me? yes i have bennett if youre asking me

[sharp saddle]

you were posting a team of fischl beidou kazuha neiv

when you asked that

so i answered along with that

[rugged sparrow]

? if anything Archaic gets worse with Bennett involved due to atk saturation

[fading vortex]

u want me to send my character list?

[rugged sparrow]

when Archaic even beats Rainslasher with atk buff, I think that should be telling enough, no? 🤷‍♂️

[fading vortex]

lol idk much 🤷‍♂️

ive been playing the game unconsistently so idk much

[elder bluff]

not worth to claim it is timed

[zinc needle]

c6 I bet?

[rugged sparrow]

can also go here, guide made by Zanto https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LyhpgeCGv4GQ7MXuslgwb5lJgQ2GOrPMhIDSv2qARQo/edit

[zinc needle]

oh okay, but I accidently got his weap😭
thx for the advice🥹🫶

[sharp saddle]

just listen to him then. Given you match the context, the calc should be proper

[fading vortex]

archaic then?

[sharp saddle]

if you have enough ER to operate

[fading vortex]

got it, thx

[zinc needle]

when it wasn't expired I tried clicking it but it does nothing, I'm just asking now so it won't happen again

[fading vortex]

oh wait, my beidou is c0 tho 😂

[rugged sparrow]

[small blade]

[rugged sparrow]

unlucky

[sharp saddle]

hahaha, too bad

just go with the graph

[fading vortex]

nah not unlucky, i havent even pulled for her. i never thought she would come in handy

[sharp saddle]

can't be wrong

the electro charge ownership is kinda wonky in that team

hard to tell if worth

[quaint fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK2buPYgh9M&themeRefresh=1

[elder bluff]

go to profile page and change frame. again, not worth. and this discord is not hoyolab

[quaint fern]

there's plenty of solo c0 videos out there

that was just the 1st one that popped up when I searched

[rugged sparrow]

Neuv theoretically should have most EC ownership due to his piss poor hydro app

4 hydro app looking ass

[waxen helm]

[quaint fern]

I didn't watch, did they spin to win?

[sharp saddle]

no

and how come EC ownership goes to the one with slower app

i'm still thinking about this

this isn't vape/melt

[quaint fern]

oh wait this is the old abyss

[sharp saddle]

yes, maguu kenki

[quaint fern]

anyways, point still stands

[sharp saddle]

i clicked thinking it was new one

[quaint fern]

his self sustain is kinda nutty though

[zinc needle]

this made me want to pull for hum

man

[quaint fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZtPtCyqE78 new abyss

[haughty lotus]

A lot of characters can do that solo so don’t feel forced to pull for him

[fading vortex]

bro how th do you even start abyss with just 1 character??

[haughty lotus]

The start button

[sharp saddle]

it's actually not that rare

[quaint fern]

i've never tried soloing but I think it's easier on neuv, as long as you don't take over 50% dmg in one hit, you shouldn't have to worry about dying

[fading vortex]

i tried that but it said i had to put another character to start

[sharp saddle]

some good dps like Wagyu can do a lot of dmg by herself

[sharp saddle]

each side needs at least one

[haughty lotus]

1 on each side

[quaint fern]

okay but solo ganyu sounds like pain. you need to be really good at dodging

[fading vortex]

huh, i see

[quaint fern]

neuv's kit makes getting hit pretty forgiving

[sharp saddle]

Ken Rurouni does that a lot

with Ganyu

[zinc needle]

alright

[small blade]

God gamer

[rugged sparrow]

ah yes the solo Ganyu gamer

[fading vortex]

way too forgiving

id even say merciful 💀

[zinc needle]

like who? like with c0 and not their signature weap

[sick quarry]

his ult can just full heal u if u want right?

[quaint fern]

it's kind of stupid

oh yeah hp drain until 50% but we won't punish you even if it doesn't drain

[fading vortex]

fr, its just constant healing

and a MASSIVE percentage of healing

[reef comet]

@swift crown why you struggle, just use c0 neuv smg

[quaint fern]

the only thing it affects is the hydro damage you get from passive

I haven't played neuv so how fast is the drain anyways?

[sick quarry]

8% per tick i think

and each orb gives 16%

[quaint fern]

wait have we seen rizzley's kit yet?

[haughty lotus]

The list is too long

[elder bluff]

no

[sick quarry]

wasnt it in the trailer

[quaint fern]

maybe I haven't pulled for a new character in so long, but don't they normally show both in stream?

I think we saw short clips right??, but no kit description

[sick quarry]

yeah

it was in the 4.1 stream iirc

[waxen helm]

[haughty lotus]

@zinc needle other examples: https://youtu.be/_s84eaQLC5A?si=THaQJox1ZIa8fSag https://youtu.be/E92wFr_2I4I?si=zslJGn48DStQc45_

[fading vortex]

bro hes just a boxer 🤷‍♂️

cryo heizou + 10x stronger hopefully

[sick quarry]

yeah sadly he aint as good of a self healer as neuvilette

[quaint fern]

rizzley is just like me, he likes tea

I should go make some tea

[rugged sparrow]

solo Childe

wtf is wrong with ppl

[fading vortex]

childe on top

[sick quarry]

i aspire to be a professional water drinker like neuv

[haughty lotus]

International split up

[fading vortex]

emotional 😔

[quaint fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZK8Z8hulFg

[reef comet]

solo itto and klee when

[rugged sparrow]

im not that masochistic

[sick quarry]

how did u send that so fast

[reef comet]

then why did you become blubberbeast for people to kill?

[sick quarry]

solo dori?

or mika

[rugged sparrow]

[zinc needle]

thank you

[reef comet]

meme probably has nilou solo himself

[quaint fern]

@haughty lotus solo nilou whenge

[haughty lotus]

give me c6

[quaint fern]

ask aya smh

[haughty lotus]

true

[zinc needle]

once there is a drip marketing that means they're gonna be playable right

[haughty lotus]

yes, next patch

[neon harness]

[haughty lotus]

wtf does whale react even mean anymore

[reef comet]

you

[haughty lotus]

go outside

[waxen helm]

idkge

[neon harness]

Imagine

[reef comet]

i'm outside your house

[quaint fern]

idk it's just like

when I see it, I will also react it

[waxen helm]

🤨 🤨

[quaint fern]

except when it's on me

[reef comet]

yours too

[zinc needle]

you cant talk about leaks here right

[waxen helm]

🤨 🤨 🤨

[quaint fern]

love you too

[haughty lotus]

nuh uh

[neon harness]

You can’t
This is an official server

[quaint fern]

have you read the rules

[waxen helm]

[reef comet]

try

[quaint fern]

I dare you (I will not take any responsibility for your actions)

[waxen helm]

[haughty lotus]

mods will ban your ass as well if you manipulate someone into leaking

[zinc needle]

I did read... but some people talks about leaks

[rugged sparrow]

well, report them

[waxen helm]

😔

[quaint fern]

LEAKS ||in genshin impact version 6.9, we will get a shirtless skin for dainsleif after defeating our sibling in the stronghold of the abyss order. afterwards, we will get to marry a character of our choice and then have a nice happy life farming Jueyun Chili (OPPA) in our teapots alongside all of the friends we made along the journey||

[waxen helm]

anyways where did all my pyro vision bois go 😔

[waxen helm]

can confirm

[zinc needle]

like example ||talking about furinas gameplay|| you can get banned right?

[rugged sparrow]

who even has pyro vision other than u pablo

[haughty lotus]

yes

[rugged sparrow]

I can only remember cakes but he changed that already

[waxen helm]

there used to be memey and kon and maybe a few others but now its just me 😔

[quaint fern]

💯

[rugged sparrow]

😔

[haughty lotus]

I had pyro for like a year lol

[rugged sparrow]

right u did

[sick quarry]

Alternative ending: ||Xiangling uses her no icd pyronado destroying us and we are isekai'd||

[reef comet]

proof?

[quaint fern]

OPPA AGAIN

[reef comet]

shut up yunyunsicles

[zinc needle]

[haughty lotus]

:idk:

[sick quarry]

c1 hu tao is a scam

[reef comet]

they should get banned

[sick quarry]

hu tao is a scam

[reef comet]

talking about furina

[quaint fern]

Pull who you like

[zinc needle]

[zinc needle]

that's not me

[sick quarry]

||furina is a geo claymore who will powercreep noelle||

[zinc needle]

she's a fatui

[haughty lotus]

ah so a itto downgrade?

[waxen helm]

can confirm

no skam

[quaint fern]

Navia will make geo great again by making a geo construct as long as the great wall of china

[zinc needle]

she's a singer

[quaint fern]

It will pulse every 5 microseconds

[haughty lotus]

yay now I lost 20 seconds because I couldnt get past my own geo construct 😍

[sick quarry]

nah she will buff your jumping height so shes meta overworld unit

xiao will reach the moon with her

[zinc needle]

do u guys believe if it's ur birthday u get lucky if ur gonna pull

[rugged sparrow]

no

[haughty lotus]

no

[quaint fern]

Xiao powercrept

[waxen helm]

no

[reef comet]

nein

[sick quarry]

u get more unlucky

[zinc needle]

😭😭

[reef comet]

luck is optional

[zinc needle]

I get lucky, atleast for me

[waxen helm]

i mean you will always lose 5050 anyways so

why bother

[quaint fern]

ALL ROADS LEAD BACK TO XIANGLING 😭

[sick quarry]

not me yall stay safe tho (im 2/7 for 50/50s)

[zinc needle]

should I rely on meta chars if wanna get 36 stars on abyss?

[quaint fern]

I won my last like... 5 50/50s? so i'm wholly prepared to lose hard on rizzley

which is why I've prepared so many pully

[rugged sparrow]

define "meta"

[sick quarry]

if u want it to be easier but u dont need to if u dont like them

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

[reef comet]

midass character

[waxen helm]

cancelling u on twitter rn /j

[reef comet]

i will

a disgrace

[quaint fern]

I'll send this image to mr tenten on twitter

[reef comet]

to all meta bullshit

[sick quarry]

characters like nahida

[quaint fern]

mr tenten will return to genshin impact after xiangling paradise 3 drops

[rugged sparrow]

but what Gil said, pull for who you like more
it's also important to diversify your chars so you can adapt to abyss floors that constantly change

[waxen helm]

[rugged sparrow]

dont mindlessly pull for meta chars then got cucked cuz suddenly f12 mobs are immune to said elements

[reef comet]

monogeo itto probably the best meta in this game (rel)

[waxen helm]

[sick quarry]

yeah dont be like me and only go for geo/anemo characters

atleast at first

[rugged sparrow]

agree

[sick quarry]

behind xinyan physical

[reef comet]

monogeo alone can destroy all the bullshit meta in this game

[quaint fern]

you can either diversify to have the resources to adapt to any situation on vertically invest to the moon

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-slap-anime-cope-gif-21811497

[waxen helm]

[quaint fern]

the only limited 5* I have that aren't cryo are kazu, zhongli, nilou (I was forced 2 pull), and raddish

the 1st two and the last one are pretty universal

[sick quarry]

until the boss has resistence to geo

[quaint fern]

oh and kok, how could I forget kokoqueen

[reef comet]

generator has geo res

[waxen helm]

💀

[quaint fern]

POOR GEO BROS

[sick quarry]

had to nerf the most meta team in the game

[quaint fern]

WHAT DID THEY DO TO DESERVE THIS

[sick quarry]

physical mains have it worst

[rugged sparrow]

honestly the worst part is its attacks that keep destroying Albedo's flower

I couldn't give a shit about the resist

[sick quarry]

thats why u just use the superior gmc

[rugged sparrow]

rel, explosion upon destruction

[sharp saddle]

maybe. This is about how hard u wanna try

[lyric cargo]

the ones who go in without checking

[rugged sparrow]

Lemon warned me, I didn't care

[lyric cargo]

this is why building two teams isn't the end

abyss demands you pull and build more characters

you thought it was over, but two teams was only the beginning

[or just swap sides, sometimes]

[fading vortex]

is 30% cr sub stat possible?

[swift crown]

no lol

[fading vortex]

whats the max known cr?

[swift crown]

3.9*4 i think?

or more i cant rmb

probably more

[fading vortex]

are u sure?? i saw someone with a 17.5% crit rate

[swift crown]

then 5

[lyric cargo]

one max cd roll is 7.77%, one max cr roll is half that uh.. 3.89%

6 of those is 3.89 * 6 = 23.34%

[swift crown]

wait 6?

[sharp saddle]

initial plus 5 rolls

23%-ish

[lyric cargo]

you can start with 1 roll and roll 5x into it from +0 to +20

[swift crown]

oh fml my brain is lagging

[fading vortex]

thx

[lyric cargo]

if it's a 4-liner

[swift crown]

no wonder i kept feeling like i was forgetting sth

side note but exams are over for the day

im so hungry

[fading vortex]

then go eat 🤷‍♂️

[swift crown]

im omw home

[lyric cargo]

brain used up
hope they went well!

[swift crown]

honestly the literature paper felt strangely doable

[keen condor]

for a ayato bennet kazuha xianling team is staff of homa better then r4 dragons bane on xiangling

[swift crown]

maybe i was doing it confidently wrong

[keen condor]

like alot better

[reef comet]

#💬gimshim-chat

[swift crown]

👉👈 carry me jenhsin later?

[reef comet]

why

[swift crown]

my neuvillette needs the friendship levels

[lyric cargo]

https://keqingmains.com/xiangling/#Weapons

it's VV vape, so r5 db is 97.5% of r5 catch and r1 homa 103.1%

your catch is being used elsewhere?

[reef comet]

sure, if im not away for the next few hours

[swift crown]

😔 but will you be

[lyric cargo]

as someone who pulled on Elegy vs SoSS because "SoSS is bis on xl so it's fine if I get that"

consider if a 3.1% damage increase is worth a 5★ pull

[reef comet]

not sure

[keen condor]

okay 6 percent aint worth it tbh ill just save and hope for a good sword to come out for ayato

[lyric cargo]

SoSS in overvape is 1.5% better than catch btw, truly one of the upgrades of all time

[keen condor]

the crit it gives makes building easier tho

[swift crown]

what about rn

[reef comet]

rn is fine

[swift crown]

ok give me 5 min

[rugged sparrow]

but Catch also gives crit, ER, and also burst%

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's true. though having ER taken care of by weapon on xl is nice tbh, she does need a lot

either way you kinda want a good 10% drop rate sands (either ER or EM)

one way you could go about it is farm the sands first, then get the weapon that complements it I guess

[rugged sparrow]

atk sands ignored 😔

[lyric cargo]

bennett

[rugged sparrow]

monopyro

[lyric cargo]

with my SoSS xl build, the sands is ER so I'm short on EM

[swift crown]

@reef comet join join join

[reef comet]

im stuck in a quest kekw

[keen condor]

Is 200 er good on xiangking

[rugged sparrow]

depends™️

to ERC you go

[swift crown]

😭 howlong

[keen condor]

wdym

[lyric cargo]

80 cr 160 cd 266 em

getting +1 em sub would be better than +1 crit sub for me

[reef comet]

idk neuv talks too much

[lyric cargo]

but it's much easier to buff EM, like with Elegy Yelan

[swift crown]

he talks too little

i love his voice

[lyric cargo]

what team is she on? for rational it's often enough unless enemies are cringe

[keen condor]

ayato bennet kazuha

[lyric cargo]

your req is probably higher than rational but idk the team's req

so yeah, you'll need to calculate it

[keen condor]

ill just trail and error cuz the er calculator dont work in my phone and ipad

[lyric cargo]

it also depends on how many times bennett can funnel her with his skill per rotation

[keen condor]

3 or 4 i guess

Depending on how long i hold kazuha

[lyric cargo]

so using ERC requires game knowledge I don't always have

[keen condor]

i try her out with 200 and then 220

and see whats better

[lyric cargo]

gl!

for this abyss I needed more than usual

abyss mages second side have shields, which prevented my fav weapons from proccing

[reef comet]

me with 180 er xiangling

[lyric cargo]

and Seahorse flies up, interrupting your rotation and leaving you without energy

I think melt teams can break the pearl fast enough to prevent it flying up at all

[keen condor]

after a whole fucking year of playing this game i 36 stared the abyss

took me long enough

[lyric cargo]

I tried a bunch of setups, ended up using Tighnari spread + Kaz national for chamber 1

[keen condor]

also 200 worked i just need to do 4 funnels i hope to get her c4 i thunk it helps with energy or smthing

[lyric cargo]

this one was harder than the previous 2-3 for me

[rugged sparrow]

Tighnari enjoyer 🤝

[lyric cargo]

first time in a while I used him ^.^

[rugged sparrow]

should use him more often 😔

[lyric cargo]

I noticed afterwards that my equipment was super scuffed

[reef comet]

i will, if c6

[lyric cargo]

kaz had no circlet, I gave it to jean trying to see if sunfire breaks the pearl easily and never returned it

and fischl had unleveled GT pieces because I wasn't done farming it

[keen condor]

i run abyss with wrong weapons and sets and dont relise it till floor 11 or 12

i once had maidens beloved ayato

[ocean kiln]

Fischl be like: 🧍‍♀️

[copper mist]

Baizhu hyperbloom is a lot of fun because it's even more braindead than nahida

[lyric cargo]

also my Tighnari was using that shime circlet when I had this on a benched char

[lyric cargo]

boss has high electro res anyway, so she's really only there for quicken

should've used raiden just for her skill, more uptime

[ocean kiln]

Brute forcing stuff with Hypercarry Yelan is fun

[lyric cargo]

c6?

[ocean kiln]

C0R1

[lyric cargo]

is that hyper?

[ocean kiln]

Yes

[copper mist]

Questionable hyper yelan comp

[lyric cargo]

I feel like xq has similar damage

(over a rotation, since his uptime is 18s)

[rugged sparrow]

not if you gimp your Xq

[copper mist]

XQ's dmg is pretty similar at C6 vs Yelan C0

[rugged sparrow]

which what belveth does probably

[ocean kiln]

Yelan 100k with E and 22k per arrow

[rugged sparrow]

also

hyper Yelan
proceeds to use national on the other two chambers

[ocean kiln]

I thought Coppelia puts cryo shield

So I brought National

[rugged sparrow]

nice vape

[ocean kiln]

It's not vaped lol

[rugged sparrow]

still not hyper

ok show 100k non vaped E on your Yelan, I'm waiting

[ocean kiln]

It's literally a team designated to permabuff her

[ocean kiln]

When I get on bus so I can abuse Internet diff

[copper mist]

I mean with zhongli and kazuha shred... possible ig

[lyric cargo]

never separating xq and yelan so she can keep running aqua

I guess they'll often be on the same team for me as well now. Neuv kinda kicks them from his side of abyss

[rugged sparrow]

(it's not)

I'd like to be proven wrong though

[lyric cargo]

what does vaped xq skill do again?

it's in the same ballpark I thought

[ocean kiln]

Mine does 80kish in Burgeon

[copper mist]

Maybe on a weakened target?

[ocean kiln]

Nope

On weakened and proper setup it deals 320k iirc

[lyric cargo]

I can't stop reading weekend, help

[ocean kiln]

But the setup is impractical and that's why I don't use it

[lyric cargo]

but the weekend just ended

[ocean kiln]

Maybe if I get C1 Yelan I could run it with Amber

[copper mist]

I believe you can get unvaped 100k tho for sure

[swift crown]

[rugged sparrow]

which is why I'm waiting for their receipts

[haughty lotus]

In abyss and no crit fishing is questionable

[swift crown]

just crowned my husband

[lyric cargo]

I'm waiting for the overflowing mastery event

[haughty lotus]

I will do that after I get a 200cv 4pc 😔

[swift crown]

wait
theres one this patch??????

[swift crown]

ill do it regardless

[quaint fern]

they alternate every patch

ley line overflow, overflowing mastery

[swift crown]

fml i didnt know 😭

[quaint fern]

we always get one on the last week of patch iirc

[haughty lotus]

what are his skill and burst at

[swift crown]

ok ill wait till last week to triple crown

[swift crown]

10-7-7

😔whats that face for

[copper mist]

I crowned wandara

[quaint fern]

don't whar, they were going to triple crown at some point anyways

they're a simp, what do you expect

[rugged sparrow]

from their older vids they did 95k with 20% ele skill card so

[copper mist]

Aye

[quaint fern]

oh yeah ahah

I said earlier that navia would make geo construct the size of the great wall of china right???

[reef comet]

sure, show solo ganyu this abyss

[lyric cargo]

I thought it was announced, but the fandom reorganized their events page and now I can't find it D:

[rugged sparrow]

there is one this patch ye

[swift crown]

man

[quaint fern]

navia's elemental skill will be called "barrier of roses"

bc you know, Spina di Rosula

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Overflowing_Mastery/4.1

[swift crown]

also whats the max so7 level this patch?

[crisp bluff]

for neuvilette, is it better to have each character a different element for his a1 passive? or does something like double electro and anemo work as good?

[reef comet]

6 + 25

[rugged sparrow]

depends on who's filling in the slot

[swift crown]

time to put that hydroculus resonance stone to good use

[crisp bluff]

thinking of fischl beidou and lynette (dont have any other anemo)

[lyric cargo]

I can't find it anywhere in [1] now. (Is there a better page I should be looking at?)

[1] https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Event

[rugged sparrow]

yeah Beidou's personal damage sure can outweigh Neuv's passive

not too sure in single target though

[lyric cargo]

it's better for his personal dmg to have 3 elements I think.. as for team dmg, idk

2 dendro 1 anemo sounds bad though, you have non-nilou bloom cores (already disqualifying) and then your anemo will swirl nothing most of the time because of dendro aura

people have mostly used him in taser and hyperbloom so far

his c1 means you only need 2 reactions btw

[rugged sparrow]

2 dendro where

[haughty lotus]

[rugged sparrow]

they said double electro

[lyric cargo]

ignore me I can't read

[rugged sparrow]

😭

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[reef comet]

highest hidden comment i've seen

[lyric cargo]

I sent it, saw it, then went to fix it but it was already too late

[rugged sparrow]

iirc Neuv's 2 stack > 3 stack is roughly 6% personal dps diff so

unless your 3rd party member is a literal deadweight, it's not the worst thing to lose 1 stack of the passive

[lyric cargo]

that's surprisingly low given its a separate multiplier to his CA

[rugged sparrow]

it's an mv increase iirc, not separate multiplier

[lyric cargo]

hmm, so 2 → 3 stacks is
125% → 160%

original MV at NA lvl10 is 14.47

I thought it was 1.6 * 14.47

so your dmg formula would be something like:

passive * MV * hp * (1 + dmg%) * (1 + cr * cd)

making passive a separate multiplier?

[swift crown]

where's the oculus 😔

[rugged sparrow]

that's what I thought too, but I really haven't delved into Neuv's TC so just take what I said with a grain of salt

[rugged sparrow]

need quest to access, it's underground

go finish "Unfinished Comedy"

[lyric cargo]

1.6 / 1.25 = 1.28

so that would be 28% more personal dmg

[swift crown]

i finished it already 😔

[rugged sparrow]

then go to the green location, the final one

and take another dive into the water

cuz our first dive got interrupted by cutscene + teleport

[swift crown]

okay

thanks

[lyric cargo]

classic

"no, let me get the thing!"
game has other plans

[rugged sparrow]

ikr

backtracking is fine but this one makes you second guess if you actually need it

[lyric cargo]

earlier I was playing sea of stars and they made me walk by a chest

three dialogues later I was able to get back

[azure knoll]

Guys does genshin take any info? I have a online friend and he is using my genshin account. Is there any way where he could get my private info?

[rugged sparrow]

@ocean kiln

[ocean kiln]

Still 100k with skill

[rugged sparrow]

so 95k = 100k now

[ocean kiln]

There's 100k at the end of the vid

[rugged sparrow]

yeah with maxed A4

I'm actually wondering what abyss buff that was

[ocean kiln]

Did I get 100k?

[rugged sparrow]

do you remember which abyss it was

[ocean kiln]

No

[rugged sparrow]

:bruh

[ocean kiln]

Maybe like 2.7

[rugged sparrow]

cuz if it's some abyss with straight up 50% dmg increase then

[rugged sparrow]

now do the current abyss and see if you can hit 100k again

[swift crown]

@rugged sparrow help

[rugged sparrow]

that one's underground, there's even an icon for it

[swift crown]

yeah how do i get there tho

[rugged sparrow]

sec

[keen condor]

with the power of friendship!

[swift crown]

will friendship give me primos

[keen condor]

if u have good enough friends then yes

[swift crown]

😔 that place is such a pain to get to

[rugged sparrow]

technically yes, just craft companion furnishing sets

[ocean kiln]

It was 3.3

[swift crown]

😔i dropped the teapot the moment i farmed 2k wood in 1 day

[ocean kiln]

50 cdmg buff but it's irrelevant [trust]

[rugged sparrow]

[keen condor]

yes it dossnt change anything

[rugged sparrow]

not as bad as 2.4 abyss then ig, shit was almost 100% dmg boost

Noelle brainrot mains glorify Noelle so hard at the time cuz they can finally hit 40k-50k per slash

[keen condor]

how do you mange that

[ocean kiln]

This is without skill

[reef comet]

what is this demon summoning method screm1

[rugged sparrow]

do current abyss u coward

[reef comet]

it's fine, he's been flexing that one abyss for 100 times already

[keen condor]

floor 10 and eleven giving a 50-60 hydro dmg buff

[ocean kiln]

[rugged sparrow]

show the 100k non-vape 😠

[rugged sparrow]

only 11

isnt it

[keen condor]

the only way i feel its possible is zhongli on petra kazuha mona and yelan cuz 100k non vape

[rugged sparrow]

100k vape is easy...

[keen condor]

i got around 200k vapes but non vapes would be hard af withou buffs

[rugged sparrow]

that's what im saying

[keen condor]

I honsetly wanna see him do that time to wait ig

[rugged sparrow]

@lyric cargo Neuv's A1 is multiplier

my dumbass thought 6% is personal increase, it's actually team's DPS

[swift crown]

dedication and poverty

[keen condor]

Now do i pull for hot ice man or a fem boy with a black hole as a burst hmmmmm

[reef comet]

cryo is mid so anemo >>>>>

[willow token]

Yo can I ask about a challenge that I have for myself here?

I just needed help to see if it was too easy

[keen condor]

if u need help with it sure

[keen condor]

ask away

[willow token]

I’m starting to get into genshin and I wanted to challenge myself this month

[reef comet]

nice challenge to burn out yourself and quit the game because tiredness

[willow token]

I want to know if this seems like a good challenge for this month or if I need to add more

[keen condor]

dont burn yourself put also ur gonna have more exploration thanme and im ar 58

[keen condor]

decrease that shit now

[elder bluff]

use interactive map...

[keen condor]

u need less not more

[willow token]

It’s really that high?

[rugged sparrow]

if you're hardcore, those are like, ~2 weeks worth of exploration at most

[willow token]

My guild mate was like

[reef comet]

I mean, getting ar35 is easy, 2 statue only takes 5 days

[rugged sparrow]

^ probably even less

[keen condor]

me only having monstad maxed

[willow token]

“Dud Ar 35”

[reef comet]

skill issue

[rugged sparrow]

AR35 is like less than a week playing isn't it

[willow token]

Should I increase it?

To 40? Or more

[keen condor]

honsely depends on how much you play my mate got 40 in two weeks of playing alot

[rugged sparrow]

sounds about right

[reef comet]

just do whatever you like, just don't burnout

[keen condor]

But also play at ur own pace dont burn out

[willow token]

Oh trust me I have lots of time

[rugged sparrow]

in 1 month u can hit AR45 pretty sure

[willow token]

[reef comet]

can tell

[rugged sparrow]

exploration gives shitton of exp

[willow token]

Ok

[rugged sparrow]

not to mention abundant of quests

[willow token]

So I’ll change to 45

[keen condor]

i think 40-45 is more reasonable

[willow token]

Well I need to grind for mats and relics too

So I can probably level up quickly from it too

[keen condor]

also dont force 100 explortion i usually get a place 80-90

[elder bluff]

here is a realistic list:

• learn how to mark progress in interactive map
• learn how to mark progress on a list of quests
• learn how to mark progress on a list of achievements
  that's it. exploration progress doesn't matter any more.

[willow token]

And I haven’t even started Liyue main quest

[keen condor]

artifact grinding usually starts at around 40 and u use ur fragil resin at 45

[willow token]

Ah ok

So what do you recommend I do while I level up?

Just the mats that I need for my current characters?

[reef comet]

https://tinyurl.com/pre-ar45guide

[willow token]

Oh thx

I’ll save it for the journey

[reef comet]

i have low expectation but goodluck

[willow token]

Btw can I post my progress

[keen condor]

yea

[willow token]

I’ll probably do it every week

[keen condor]

please ping me i wanna see how it goes

[willow token]

No prob!

[keen condor]

if u need help ask here or if u want dm me ig i am usally free

[willow token]

Thx for the help and the twitch dude as well

yeah no prob

Do I post here right?

[keen condor]

if u want i guess

[willow token]

Ok then. I’ll just be lurking a bit during the week before I post progress later on

See ya

[keen condor]

Byee

would lv 90 have a massive increase? And what piece should i make better

[olive isle]

80/90 can work and 90/90 is not that of a dmg increase, you will want the level 12/crowned pyronado. maybe get better er sands

[keen condor]

yea my er sands is shit also ill try to get it to lv 12 and i think ill just 80/90 cuz i dint have alotmof books

whats the rotation for a ayato kazuha bannet xianglong team?

[reef comet]

Ayato Q Bennett Q E Kazuha Q E Xiangling Q E Ayato E NA hold, dodge, NA hold, dodge, NA hold, dodge, NA hold, dodge

[lyric cargo]

I was going to ask that

then I went to check kqm to see if the 6% is mentioned somewhere, couldn't find any numbers, and forgot ^.^

[lyric cargo]

90 is mostly an increase for transformative reactions that scale with level

there's also enemy enemy def which is based on their lvl relative to yours, but it's not a big factor

enemy def multiplier:

lvl 80 → 90 increases damage by ~3% assuming you're not shredding def
closer to 2% if you're shredding 30%

[marble finch]

what is the orange zone when fishing

[keen condor]

imahine doging

[marble finch]

and what is the little green upgrade looking thing that appears sometimes when fishing

[reef comet]

sure, you can tank the dancing boss

[keen condor]

wouldent ayato Q kazuha Q bennet Q E kazuha e and xiangling EQ then ayato E be better cuz swirling hydro

[elder bluff]

faster progress

[lyric cargo]

forgot to mention, but overload is transformative so in rational it would matter

[keen condor]

i sadly got abuses by them

[reef comet]

no, swirl is meant for xiangling 🧐

[keen condor]

i wrote jt wrong

i swirl pyro with kazuhas skill and hydro with the burst or owuld that be worse

[reef comet]

I'd would use Burst for Xiangling then normal Ep for Ayato after his 2nd E

[keen condor]

okay thanks

[tame mauve]

Can someone help me farm for cyon

[lyric cargo]

I think the problem is uptime on the VV effect for hydro?

if you swirl both at once rather than swirl → swap → bennett burst → swap → swirl, you start the 10s timer for the hydro swirl later

I'm relatively new to this stuff though

previously I wasn't really aware of the VV window

[spare garden]

What will I get if I use it?

[lyric cargo]

then I watched a video in Neuv and how swirling electro + hydro can be a problem because of Neuv skill's hydro app

[keen condor]

i can swirl both?

[lyric cargo]

you get a non-usable version of the cake and 1 fragile resin (worth 60 original resin)

[reef comet]

Ayato Q Bennett Q E Kazuha Q E Xiangling Q E Ayato E NA hold, dodge, NA hold, dodge, NA hold, dodge, NA hold, dodge, Kazuha E, Bennett E, Xiangling E, Ayato E NA hold, dodge, NA hold, dodge, NA hold, dodge, NA hold would be my rotation

[spare garden]

Ok

[lyric cargo]

so basically no downside to using it, since you keep a copy of the cake (just without the use button)

[spare garden]

Alright,imma keep it tho

1 fragile resin isn't going to make a lot different

[lyric cargo]

afaik, yes? doesn't kaz self-swirl, meaning he swirls pyro from bennett's self infusion and hydro from the enemy?

[elder bluff]

elemental absorb only happens once per skill/burst

[keen condor]

i honselty dont know i didnt know i can double swirl till now

[sinful vault]

hey so right now i am using nilou, nahida, dmc, barbara but i dont like dmc all that much. i just got kaveh, is he better to use then dmc?

[elder bluff]

sure why not

[reef comet]

why wouldn't you like a character that is on field for literally 3 seconds to apply dendro then switch off

[lyric cargo]

so you swirl pyro with his burst and hydro with his skill?

or does that not work? do you need there to be two enemies for kaz to double swirl

[sinful vault]

idk

[lyric cargo]

afaik kaveh only has on-field dendro app, but your really want to be on-fielding a hydro unit

[small blade]

Kaz has self infusion not self swirl

[lyric cargo]

partly because of Nahida's 250em buff to the active char. the hydro chars trigger more blooms

[sinful vault]

can i use collei then? instead of dmc

[lyric cargo]

ah, I thought it was a brief anemo infusion that swirls like with jean.
I guess he just absorbs the element, which is why you can get pyro absorption without the res shred and dmg% buff

[ocean kiln]

I don't have Petra 😔

@jolly junco how do I zoom in and do the animation cancel for Yelan

You told me like 1 yr ago that it deals more dmg

[small blade]

If you are talking about double swirls. Bennet applies pyro to self, you apply weak hydro to opponent, Kazuha E Initial hit swirls hydro, and absorbs pyro doing a vape hit (Removes hydro). Then kaz plunge first applies pyro (Elemental dmg comes before swirl) then swirls it

[lyric cargo]

viable I believe. I don't play Nilou, so check nilou mains bloom guide (scroll to the sections on dmc and collei, they'll list upsides and downsides)

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/13LNlnxmSk4pZw-1O-4f2d8QfHgLVmPxrtN-iN774SGc/

[ocean kiln]

Nilou Nahida Barbara and Collei is best team in this case

Premium team would be Nilou Nahida Kokomi Baizhu

[quiet current]

whats best out of a crit rate cirlet or crit dmg circlet for neuvi? ive got his sig weapon which gives like 88% crit dmg

[reef comet]

depends on your other artifacts

[quiet current]

i was thinking crit rate cus with substats itd be like a free 80% crit rate

and if i get good crit damage rolls it could go to like 200% or more

[lyric cargo]

or Ayato over Kokomi, if you have xiphos. Iirc lemon prefers that but both are good

[quiet current]

i wanted to ask what other neuvi users were doing tho

[ocean kiln]

Flopyato

[rugged sparrow]

100k unvaped E when 😠

[ocean kiln]

[quiet current]

goddamn

[ocean kiln]

I already have

[quiet current]

thats actually stupid as hell

[rugged sparrow]

in current abyss

[ocean kiln]

I'm in school

[quiet current]

and that crit rate goes up to 79% with the artifact set

[rugged sparrow]

quit school

[small blade]

Why is your offpiece your worst piece

[ocean kiln]

Should be 81% since i now have another sands with 2% more crit rate

[ocean kiln]

No better HP% mainstat pieces

[quiet current]

thats actually insanely good lol, what does ur damage look like per tick usually?

[ocean kiln]

80k ish

[quiet current]

goddamn

what team do you use? sorry im asking questions but that neuvi build blows my mind

320% crit damage is bonkers

[lyric cargo]

the answer for pretty much all chars will always be that you want a 1:2 ratio (taking into account all buffs and not overcapping 100% crit rate)

if you have two crit ratios to compare, you can calculate your average crit dmg: cr * cd

whatever is higher is better

[lyric cargo]

for marechaussee users you might need to take into account that you're not always at full stacks

[quiet current]

my god that is insane

so crit dmg circlet with crit rate substat rolls is what to go for i guess

[rugged sparrow]

Neuv is always full stack so shouldn't be too worried

only Lyney is having issue for full stack but that's only early into rot

[quiet current]

btw even if ur at full hp does absorbing 3 droplets give u stacks for maechaussee hunter ?

cus its not technically an increase or whatever but youre getting hp

[rugged sparrow]

but your HP increases through heal

[jolly junco]

I don't know what you're talking about

[lyric cargo]

yeah.. issue is his dmg is frontloaded afaik

[quiet current]

btw @ocean kiln do u find u have energy issues ?

[rugged sparrow]

yeh, and he doesn't lose/gain HP fast enough to reach max stack early into the rot

[lyric cargo]

should Zl have bursted there? (0:20)

I thought using his burst was often a dps loss

[violet cipher]

What level of talents should my burgeon Thoma be?

[rugged sparrow]

ig it's more of "shit my E is on CD lemme panic burst"

[lyric cargo]

ah

[quiet current]

also whats better out of hp% goblet or hydro damage goblet

[rugged sparrow]

depends™️

[lyric cargo]

couldn't be me
hides my yelan and her 4 substat offpiece hp% sands

[rugged sparrow]

better consult to optimizer

[quiet current]

i have no clue how the optimizer works i tried it yesterday and i was like a grandad trying to navigate it

[lyric cargo]

afaik it's close? could change with future supports as well

[rugged sparrow]

[sinful vault]

nice

[quiet current]

yh maybe

[rugged sparrow]

the main takeaway is, the more dmg% source you have, the more valuable HP becomes

[karmic sorrel]

What set does Mika use?

[quiet current]

ig so if you have a neuvi like that jen person hp% is probably better

?

[violet cipher]

My C6 Thoma’s Talents are 1 4 8, should I level them up or am I fine?

[rugged sparrow]

well passive + signature + Kazuha and Mona setup

that's shitton of dmg% already

[violet cipher]

Most of his damage comes from burgeon so I think I don’t need talent upgrades?

[sinful vault]

read it a bit and collei seems pretty good with nilou and nahida

[karmic sorrel]

What set does mika use

[quiet current]

alright epic thanks gang

[lyric cargo]

I thought normally you want Yaoyao just because of the self dmg bloom deals, so kokomi can focus on building em rather than healing

but if you don't have her or don't need it, that's fine

[sinful vault]

i dont'have yaoyao or komomi soooo collei and nahida it is

[jolly junco]

are you referring to his ascension one and/or ascension four passive?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[jolly junco]

the ascension one passive isn't dmg%

[rugged sparrow]

second one is

[jolly junco]

indeed

[rugged sparrow]

muh hydro

[lyric cargo]

so you're running Nilou bloom with barbara, building her full EM and her healing is still enough to compensate for bloom dmg + enemies?

[rugged sparrow]

how much was in the vid
15% marechaussee
30% a4
42% sig (r1)
32% (800 EM Kaz)
60% (Mona t10)

am I missing anything else

[sick quarry]

are you suggesting to build hybrid Barbara (i.e. not full EM)?

[jolly junco]

well he doesn't maintain 30% on his A4 unless you run an external form of healing

[rugged sparrow]

oh

let's just peg it down to 20% average then agreege

[restive totem]

question i forgor. does Mona need good stat as pure support? or does her burst scale off her talent only?

[rugged sparrow]

nope, yes

just need enough ER to burst off rot

[reef comet]

She needs er

[restive totem]

okay

thx

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

I'm more questioning if the team is viable in its current state without yaoyao

also asking to check if they're building healer barbara and that's why it seems to be enough healing

but I don't actually know what the right thing to build is, if they don't have yaoyao

[keen condor]

Whats the best team kazuha vv zhognli on Arciatric petra then kuki or fishl?

[sinful vault]

yes i think so, idk if that is a question or?

[restive totem]

funni thing is... CN player been saying his meta is vape-

[keen condor]

what?

[restive totem]

anyway fischl is better than Kuki Neuv team

[azure knoll]

If alhaitman good? I have his weapon and him, should I use him as my main?

[sinful vault]

i am running the team rn and its soooo op, those dendro bombs things that get buffed because of nilou are insanely strong. and my barbara heals enough so i think it's all good

[keen condor]

he is pretty good

but it depends on who u have

[azure knoll]

I have xiao and his weapon

also a few 5 stars

mona and tighnari

[keen condor]

Alhaitham has two good teams

[azure knoll]

oh and also shenhe

[restive totem]

Alhaitam is a dendro carry. he need support. he good with spread team so he need electro char like fischl or beidou

char that dont take his time on field ig

[azure knoll]

ok

[keen condor]

if i remeber correctly
alhaitham yao yao fishl beduo or
alhaitham kuki xinque yao yao
these are the most f2p friendly teams

[restive totem]

yesh very good team

[azure knoll]

ok thank you

[restive totem]

good luck

[azure knoll]

can you help em grind artifacts? I have no good artifacts

[restive totem]

server?

[azure knoll]

america

[restive totem]

ah

cant help-

[azure knoll]

oh ok

Im ar 46 but all my characters are level 40 with bad artifacts

[restive totem]

good tip i can give is dont build too much char

build the Alhaitam team first. its a great team

with those char you can spread it out into many other team

[lofty badger]

i need more tips for my build and how to build the characters in this team comp

[keen condor]

what in the ever loving fuck is that team

[keen condor]

ill help

tighnari dosent work well with bennet and xiangling

what charecters do you have

[lofty badger]

okay so this is how this works

1. tighnari - main dps, obviously
2. lisa - sub-dps, electro applier, EM and ER build
3. Xiangling - just for the pyro resonance lol
4. Bennett - buffer and healer

[jolly junco]

tighnari can work ok with bennett but not xiangling

she applies a lot of pyro, you lose the quicken aura

[restive totem]

yep. you can run instructor set on Bennet

[keen condor]

You can use fishl and a second dendro to get the deepwood buff like yao yao

[lyric cargo]

you'll want to avoid the burning and overload reactions in his teams

[keen condor]

i still dont like it cuz burning makes me pain

[restive totem]

doesnt change the fact that it works-

[sharp saddle]

what works

[restive totem]

sapwood blade and instructor bennet

heh

[keen condor]

i feel like yao yao lisa and if you get fishl that would be amazing

[jolly junco]

that doesn't make double dendro better

[lofty badger]

bro, i have the favonia on bennett?

[restive totem]

hehehe overburning spread THIGHnari

[sharp saddle]

if you play Bennett into quicken well sure, just use Kuki Shinobu along

[lofty badger]

yao yao - im busy preparing for the femboy bard
lisa - built with fully upgraded 4 star artifacts

fischl - she just keeps avoidding me

[sharp saddle]

she can reset any pyro back to electro

[restive totem]

Shinobu dont buff like Bennnet

[sharp saddle]

nice reading

[jolly junco]

if the second dendro character is nahida then it would be better than bennett

[restive totem]

... oh- im sleepy sry- YES

[sharp saddle]

tienari + xiangling

nice recipe for disaster

[lofty badger]

lisa just makes it even

[sharp saddle]

worse?

[lofty badger]

but the problem is the asstronomically high energy is lisa's burst

[sharp saddle]

[restive totem]

funny thing Lisa burst is actually really good

[rugged sparrow]

[sharp saddle]

c4 Lisa maybe

[lofty badger]

because i dont have any em goblet, i focused on building atk tighnari just for now

[jolly junco]

lisa is quite good with tighnari but not solo electro

[lofty badger]

pyro resonance is for the atk buff, same goes for bennett

[ocean kiln]

3 Favge Weapons

[sharp saddle]

is this the "weird idea" hour

[jolly junco]

it's not

[ocean kiln]

Idk I'm just button mashing

[lofty badger]

so just

tighnari
lisa
fischl
dendro resonance

[sharp saddle]

i'm seeing so many revolutionary takes

[jolly junco]

you don't need to force double dendro

[lofty badger]

I NEED to because of how dependent dendro of em

[jolly junco]

?

[keen condor]

Also deep wood on another charceter would give tighnari a more dps focused set

[sharp saddle]

dendro resonance gives at best 70 EM in case of quicken iirc

[rugged sparrow]

dat so true bestie dendro without EM = bad!!111!

[sharp saddle]

not something you can't patch up

[rugged sparrow]

dendro reso is 100 EM total

[lofty badger]

oh, so deepwood isnt optimal for tighnari?

[sharp saddle]

Sprawling Greenery: Elemental Mastery increased by 50. After triggering Burning, Quicken, or Bloom reactions, all nearby party members gain 30 Elemental Mastery for 6s. After triggering Aggravate, Spread, Hyperbloom, or Burgeon reactions, all nearby party members gain 20 Elemental Mastery for 6s. The durations of the aforementioned effects will be counted independently.

quicken = 70

[keen condor]

its good but if you give it to another dendro charecter you can give him a more dps like set

[jolly junco]

well it depends on the team, if nobody else is a good deepholder holder on it, then it is

[rugged sparrow]

did u skip two or three sentences

[sharp saddle]

deepwood doesn't need to go on a dendro char

[lofty badger]

what set its for tighnari then?

[keen condor]

wait let me check the pasive

[rugged sparrow]

baseline 50, quicken +30, aggravate/spread/hb/burg +20

[sharp saddle]

ohhhh, ye, very blind of me

[jolly junco]

most of the other dendro characters with tighnari are pretty underwhelming

[sharp saddle]

just need skill or burst dmg

[jolly junco]

nahida is good, baizhu is good if you want a defensive option

[keen condor]

Wandrer troup or gilded

[sharp saddle]

kirara :heheam

[jolly junco]

she's mid

at c6 she's decent for a defensive option

[lofty badger]

got it

[sharp saddle]

shield, easy to play

[jolly junco]

worse than zhongli

[keen condor]

They are both extreamly simmilar so chose the one with better stats

[sharp saddle]

aren't we talking dendro options

since dude wants that

[keen condor]

every shilder is worse than him

[rugged sparrow]

Yaoyao isn't too bad either

[keen condor]

yup

[lofty badger]

i only heard nahida is coming, but idk if its true so im not going to pull for her so much before its confirmed

[lofty badger]

for overworld, right?

[rugged sparrow]

no, for 2nd dendro slot in Tigh team

cuz that's the context rn

[keen condor]

no just overall pretty good

[jolly junco]

im saying that there aren't many good 2nd dendro options with him to justify running double dendro, there's like two or 3 if you have c6 kirara

[lofty badger]

okay, but can i combine tighnari + collei for more "aggresive" play?

[rugged sparrow]

why

[lofty badger]

well, ill keep that in mind

[keen condor]

collei is mid

[lofty badger]

why not

[rugged sparrow]

I mean if u have c4 Collei + Elegy I guess u can but

[sharp saddle]

2 is kinda sufficient already if he wants that. Nahida is pretty solid

[lofty badger]

okay, but who can replace collei?

[sharp saddle]

but forcing 2nd dendro is kinda whatever

[keen condor]

yao yao as a second dendro

[rugged sparrow]

step 1, get Nahida

[jolly junco]

so you agree with me?

[keen condor]

then fishl as a offensive option

[rugged sparrow]

forget about other dendro options

[lofty badger]

no, for an aggresive play

i like seeing multiple big big damage

[keen condor]

fish do bt dmg

[rugged sparrow]

then forget about 2nd dendro

[sharp saddle]

i always agree with you until it comes to weird stuff you don't play

[jolly junco]

[rugged sparrow]

ideally it's just Tigh/Fischl/Yae/anemo

[lofty badger]

no, a dendro char that can replace yao yao for aggresive play

[rugged sparrow]

tf is "Aggressive" play 😭

[sharp saddle]

aggressive is nice and all but how about a way to heal

don't "the third abyss card" me

[lofty badger]

considering big damage is a priority

[keen condor]

you cant be aggrisive if you die

[rugged sparrow]

then just run an anemo to buff Fischl/Lisa dmg

[lofty badger]

this is not an answer

[rugged sparrow]

like Sucrose

[lofty badger]

funny enough, i dont have fischl neither i do sucrose

[keen condor]

for bif dmg fishl or yae or nahida

[rugged sparrow]

💀

[lofty badger]

got it

[sharp saddle]

idc if you die but even if Tighnari is a fast shooter, if you get interrupted you're not shooting damage.

bow chars have it that way

[keen condor]

shiledless yoimia trust

i can go up to n3 at best

[swift crown]

👋

[sharp saddle]

is this some dehya joke

[sharp saddle]

hello honey

[lofty badger]

okay so,

Spiral Abyss

• Tighnari
• Lisa (will get replaced as soon as i get a new char)
• yae / fischl
• nahida

overworld:

Tighnari
Lisa
Kuki shinobu????? / fischl
dendro char / yao yao if kuki isnt present

[keen condor]

no its how i beat floors 9-11 solo yoimia ended with 20ish hp

[sharp saddle]

too good. i wish i can beat floor 9-11 with yoimiya

[swift crown]

i just woke up from a nap but i kind of wanna go back to sleep

my blocked nose is killing me

[sharp saddle]

i almost asked if you woke up from nap but somehow I just assumed so and didn't ask anymore

[keen condor]

good luck living in the spiral abyss

[swift crown]

😔i take them most of the time
i have a really hard time powering through the rest of the day if i dont pass out in the afternoon

[lofty badger]

amen

[sharp saddle]

could use some chinese oil onto the nostrils to help with blocked nose

[keen condor]

prototyoe amber lisa with er sands just to heal

[sharp saddle]

pamber on a 20s cd burst char

[lofty badger]

now onto the next question, im pulling for venti and i dont know any good team comps for him, any ideas?

[ocean kiln]

@rugged sparrow play when

[swift crown]

ill see what i can do

[rugged sparrow]

fym play wehn

[ocean kiln]

Breathe in water vapour

[ocean kiln]

Duo in League when 🥰

[swift crown]

morgana if it doesn't get screwed over by abyss again

[rugged sparrow]

I dont play league

[lofty badger]

who?

[keen condor]

just unblock it tbh seems like a skill issue

[ocean kiln]

Wtfreak

[swift crown]

😔

[keen condor]

its a team name mona ganyu venti and someone else i forgot

[rugged sparrow]

come dota u no deny cringelords

play the real moba

[swift crown]

venti ganyu mona/kokomi diona/rosaria

[lofty badger]

alright then

[ocean kiln]

Morgana
TF Kazuha
Archon Team

[ocean kiln]

Ganyu Venti Mona Diona

Mona can be substituted with Kokomi. [Fingers crossed on Furina]

Diona can be substituted with Shenhe, Rosaria, Layla

[keen condor]

I hope charrolet is a cryo xinque cuz my yoimia needs it

[lofty badger]

if you have a really high expectation for furina, im terribly sorry for you

[swift crown]

why though

[ocean kiln]

We dont know her kit

[swift crown]

archons have been consistently useful

[sharp saddle]

take care then. I'm going back, have fun talking here

love u

[ocean kiln]

Venti powercreep

[ocean kiln]

Aight cya

[keen condor]

before i go ill will pull for wriothesley if he has a good line where he calls me a good boy

[swift crown]

you too
cya later 🫶

[random valley]

what team can i use for floor 9 to 12?

[lofty badger]

mf got the whole fridge and dont know any recipes 💀

[random valley]

what they added new enemies so i dont know what can i use

[ocean kiln]

9 to 11 you can use any team and button mash

First half in 12th floor you can go

1st half: Ayaka, Ganyu, Shenhe, Kazuha

2nd half: Hu Tao, Yelan, Xingqiu, Zhongli

[1st team is cooking]

[random valley]

oh wait i forgot that i have mona (that isnt build yet...)

[ocean kiln]

Just slap ER on her with R5 TTDS

[random valley]

ok thanks

[rugged sparrow]

electro

[ocean kiln]

22% ER mainstat

[rugged sparrow]

electro

[ocean kiln]

[swift crown]

going freeze first half against the seahorse is so sillygoofy

nevermind ignore that

[ocean kiln]

Freeze without the Hydro

[swift crown]

😔😔😔my brain is lagging

[clear tapir]

Help I'm only doing 33k vape

[swift crown]

drop that def and get more em lol

[clear tapir]

I'm struggling with my resin

[olive isle]

em and talent levels

[clear tapir]

Okay thanks

[swift crown]

also get 4pc cwof

or 4pc shime

[olive isle]

should i pull who tao

[swift crown]

if you want

[olive isle]

idk but my c2 r1 wgs diluc vaped 84k in 4 seconds

[reef comet]

that's 1 hutao vape

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-genshin-impact-klee-cope-gif-24462233

[twilit sphinx]

i just got a diona, how good is she/ should i build her?

[keen condor]

whats other charecters cna snapshot other than xiangling

[keen condor]

depends on who you have tbh

[rugged sparrow]

a lot

most deployables are snapshottable

[keen condor]

I ment burst wise

[rugged sparrow]

Ganyu, Layla, Noelle, Itto, Kaeya, Beidou, Ayaka, Ayato, to name a few

[keen condor]

ohh ayato snapshots? Intersting

[rugged sparrow]

non-burst you have Albedo and Fischl

yeh Ayato does, but iirc you don't snapshot his burst into Bennett because it's not worth

[keen condor]

okay thanks

[rugged sparrow]

pretty sure this page also tells you most info you need https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Snapshotting

[zealous ledge]

Are there any good mono Pyro teams?

[rugged sparrow]

Klee, Lyney

then you just slap Bennett/XL/Kazuha or ZL with them

[reef comet]

why you slap 4 of them

[rugged sparrow]

what

[reef comet]

sus

[zealous ledge]

Why Kazu on a mono pyro team

[rugged sparrow]

[reef comet]

[rugged sparrow]

should be self-explanatory? he buffs elem% and applies element shred with VV

[zealous ledge]

Sorry for asking, but doesn’t that defeat the purpose of it being a mono-something team?

Yeah mono cryo team is nice with Ayaka, Shenhe, Kokomi and Kazu

[rugged sparrow]

when people run monoteam, they don't truly run 4 of the same element

that's just dogwater

[reef comet]

he still does pyro dmg, that technically still make him a pyro dmg dealer (rel)

[zealous ledge]

rel

[rugged sparrow]

mono- team is just the type of damage portion you deal the most

now don't call freeze a monocryo or I'll shoot you

[zealous ledge]

Ah I didn’t know. I always saw mono-Geo teams with John Lee / Gorou / Albedo / Noelle and assumed all mono teams needed 4 of the same element

[rugged sparrow]

nah, geo works because they're independent

[reef comet]

if only you can swirl geo

[chrome venture]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-genshin-impact-genshin-meme-yelan-yelan-genshin-gif-25798389

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-meme-did-i-ask-get-real-get-fake-gif-21114567

[chrome venture]

i know you

[reef comet]

do you?

[zealous ledge]

Well I personally want to go all in or nothing

So 4 pyro characters mono-Pyro it is

[rugged sparrow]

[chrome venture]

Yeah bro

[reef comet]

that is some rhetorical question, you shouldn't know me

[chrome venture]

i have returned

[reef comet]

for exactly 5 days and you gonna gone again? sure

[chrome venture]

you guessed it

[tranquil lake]

Anyone know a team I can make for floor 6 - 8 of spiral

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-skateboard-cat-skateboard-cat-spinning-spinning-gif-21095646

[small blade]

[chrome venture]

YO

[verbal river]

so with the resonance stone if the circle is dotted and not solid im on the wrong layout?

[keen condor]

Bennet xinque xianling and mona or kyea then you have keeauing dendro travler lisa and kirara or a healer

There isnt alot i can do with your charecters tbh

[tranquil lake]

fair