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W chinese va
Wah
Chinese VA pog
I am chinese :>
oh that is not enough apparently
nah i would like to see my Lyney dmg go brrr
idk why im just stupid ignore that

that was a bad way to put it, more like "i like hypercarry"
hypercarry deez nuts
altho gotta agree this is a pretty stupid way to do it
Elegy EM buff for Kaz so he can give more dmg% pog
ok hear me out
4p TotM XL
gives 20% atk to match with 4p Elegy
XL offers better support capabilities from her kit
now we just need polearm version of Milennial Movement
lol this is kinda stupid
i still wanna play shielderless hypercarry Lyney tho 😔
ig ill try Yanfei
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Xiangling...
real
Is Nilou easy to build?
yes
Im thinking of getting her for my uot account. Do you think shes good for low ars?
Ult*
not really, she's pretty demanding in terms of teammates
Oh ok thank you
and she's only good in one niche
haitham is a good dendro carry yes, he has good scaling
Ok thanks then i’ll just go for him when he comes
maybe in 5.x
That will give me enough time to save up lol
yea true
i kinda want him too, as well as ayaka
btw are chests a better source of exp or world quests
just do both? 
one difficulty is getting all team members to 90, though the dendro ones might be less important
(not sure how many blooms they actually trigger)
Oh ok i’ll keep that in mind
how u not make him tp away
when I try rotation with my ganyu he keeps tp away
when he is not doing anything => hit him => he TP away
that rule applies the moment he changed to phase 2
then how u make him not go away
just dont hit him 
wait for him to start attacking
then attack
when he is done with his attack animation dont attack him
I want best artifacts for faruzan
How good is the CC that Venti provides compared to kazhua?
same sucking velocity but he suspends enemies midair
goldfish, i just buy welkin
the 5 stars are c0, Fischl and Shinobu C6
Fischl have Elegy, Shinobu has Xiphos, Alhaitham has r5 Harbinger
Nahida has Sac
what kind of comp can clear new event's latest stage hardest mode?
i have tried:
venti shenhe zhongli ganyu
ganyu dehya nahida bennett
raiden national
wanderer xq bennett faruzan
xiao zhongli albedo jean
nilou nahida kokomi dendro traveler
keqing nahida fischl venti
yoimiya zhongli yunjin bennett
raiden venti nahida kokomi/fischl
can i see your build
No I can't log in currently
uid?
they're not in my showcase
Venti sucks enemies to a spot that's some distance away, so I think melee chars might prefer kazuha's grouping for that reason alone
Venti lifts lighter enemies into the air, so many chars won't be able to hit them with their abilities.
Overall Kazuha feels more convenient. Often you'll have a mix of AoE chambers and single target, like in this abyss. Venti does little in single target.
Venti's sucking AoE is larger I believe. I heard Venti can group the hydro enemies in 12-1 second half, where Kazuha can't as easily
I used different builds for the event as well
akasha might have it saved. if not, then not 
I don't think they're the builds I used
i want to see your build can you show me when you log in
well I can tell you the weapons, constellations and artifact sets
how u do so much dammage aaaaa me as a free to play can never do that level of dammage
raiden c2 r5 wavebreaker's 4pc emblem
sara c6 r1 skyward harp 4pc noblesse oblige
yae miko c4 r1 kagura's verity 2pc gladiators + 2pc thundering fury
kazuha c2 r1 freedom sworn, 4pc viridescent venerer
bruh
if a c6 Alhaitham cant clear faster than that then all i can say is
sounds like immense skill issue
You should be able to kill him before he moves 💀
Hiya! My current team comp is Heizou, Kaeya, Xiangling and Bennet. Should I run EM or Crit on Heizou? I'm only ar26 but I want to start knowing what to level (Widsith or Mapa Mare, etc.) and be able to do Spiral Abyss
my fastest time is 49 seconds whahhhh
Crit and use widsith
I suck so bad
ok rip
you can clear 36* thats all that matters
which other chsrsvter
skill issue xd

wow nice i wish i crown my Amber too
wow what comp
i wish i can 36* too
What would you say is the best weapon you can choose from the Battle Pass?
wolffang maybe
even if I'm early-game? I only have 20% crit rate atm. do I use mappa mare or try to increase cr?
EM performs better with early game investment but you are much more likely to use widsith over mappa mare late game
Since farming ley line branches is pain, would you recommend I just invest in the mappa mare for right now?
It’ll help you a bit but I wouldn’t do it personally
ok thanks, ill just level the widsith
spindle ayaka
Meow at the strongbox for goodluck




Should I try to clutch Zhongli in the next 2 weeks? I just lost a 50/50 and I’m ar26 (lots of ways to get primos)
If you’re dying to get him yes otherwise I’d just save for who you want
Navia
should i fodder this

realistically who would use it? 2pc on hu tao because you don't have a good 4pc set?
it's probably fodder

yun-jin off-piece if it rolls crit rate and er I guess? but most likely just fodder

i already foddered it
if i'm doing ER/EM/EM on kitain for yaoyao is slightly under 700 EM good enough
The 4.1 live has been announced yet ?
This isn’t a proper English sentence but you get it
Okii thanks !
that's you being too good
weak
how tf do i get more, i can't do EM sands because i'll have like 150ER
and i guess i could use dbane instead of kitain
more EM subs ofc
i have 75 EM on the feather
I have 119 EM on my paradise lost feather
did you check ERC btw? 150% with kitain if you're also playing with nahida which you should could be enough
ion have nahida
:ohno:
damn, the DPC farmer has fopl
2 full EM sets with lots of EM subs
this is what i have so far (dendro goblet is a placeholder)
and you use it on burgeon
based

btw apparently i gaslit myself into thinking c0 ayato can only get 3 namisen stacks per slash
its 4
he can get 4 stacks
indeed
anyways i fixed that lapse of my judgement and finished my ayato hp and atk split calc
nice
I don't know but not mentioning it on the yoimiya guide is probably for the greater good
i only calc'd for ayato yelan kaz zl though 
interesting team choice, though viable
i like the team, its pretty fun
almost as good as xq instead of zl in SGT but with pretty good AoE
and a 1.2k atk buff wouldnt give bias to the atk scaling?

oh for the sake of the argument i assumed pjc atk sands and totm zl
so i tried to balance the hp and atk
I mean you'd compare a bunch of different teams if you wanted to get a full picture of how good it is
YES but i AM INCREDIBLY lazy
but i probably should
its content
this is what i got though
2E 1Q, 32 E slashes(slightly unrealistic, but its doable), 15 Q hits
ah nice
oh wait
i think i applied C1 to his Q
that does seem to be an oopsie
eh whatever @jolly junco you get the point 
c0 is around 23%, c2 and c4 are around 30-35%
it's funny how chonky he becomes with c2
33.6k hp with KQMC subs and r1 pjc+hydro resonance
yeah
its hilarious, esp when hp sands is also viable here
Fodder right after
I strongbox as soon as I can 
Almost always
Got her a new flower it's improvement
I was lucky cuz I was listening moonlight

Hey how do genshin measure atk ?
need help, how do i clear those 2 ? any char until thoma is fully built,
fodder right after, I'm always near 1800/1800 
measure?
it's calculated like this:
atk = baseAtk * (1 + atk%) + flatAtk
multiplication
Oh
Math 
Yo math teacher my 1+atk%?
Like why that 1 is there
Ideally yea
Damn genshin become a math class real quick
is there a way to easily beat these monsters ? i dont know anything about fontaine
if you have:
- a char with 200 baseATK
- a weapon with 800 baseAtk
- a feather with 311 flatAtk
- a sands with 46.6% atk
your atk would be:
(200 + 800) * 1.466 + 311
= 1000 * 1.466 + 311
= 1466 + 311
= 1777
@faint linden

1000 baseATK isn't realistic, but just to make the math easier
Pick up pneuma block/use HMC (LOL), Lyney or Freminet (LOL)
It stuns them
why use hmc ?
You shouldn't
Pokemon
But they apply pneuma as well
yeah, % is a very fancy way of writing "/ 100"

so that's just calculating 1 + 0.466
What's wrong with me





Hey can I use fischl xq xl benny?
maybe
Yeahhhh sure
you're one of today's lucky 10000 
Oof
You sure it's 100% by 30?

Thanks hidden
10,000 adults a day learn about something common they’ve never heard of before 
Yeah I never knew the birth rate of us
i never knew us is real
imagine
aphantasia rip bozo


100% by 30 is their model, they're just trying to guess how many hear it first each day
Oh
is 26/210 an ok crit ratio on perma freeze ayaka? this is with amenoma, im very f2p
add all your bonus crit rate (cryo resonance, blizzard strayer, constellations, etc)
after that it's like any other character, aim for a 1:2 crit ratio and avoid overcapping 100% crit rate
i have cryo resonance and 4pc blizzard strayer in a permafreeze team
pretty sure thats about 80% cr on frozen enemies and 60% on enemies just affected by cryo
i have a piece that makes it 33/201, is that fine?
cryo resonance gives 15% cr
blizzard strayer gives 40%
yes 55 + 25
im thinking of either saving up or waiting for when the blackcliff weapons come in battlepass, then ill spend 20 bucks and get all of them r1 and use the blackcliff on her for better cd
i also need blackcliff agate for my wanderer hes sitting at 62/160
(i dont have widsith)
crittttt

hidden50 typing a whole essay here
so you're at 81 : 210?
trading some crit dmg for more crit rate could get you to around 93 : 185
nah, I'm just double checking my math ^^
185? neverrrrr
i can get about 10% more cr while sacrificing about 8% cd
if you have two crit ratios to compare, you can multiply them and see which is bigger
that's better crit value and better crit ratio
this is what ive got now
for example:
.81 * 2.1 = 1.701
.93 * 1.85 = 1.7205
so the second one is actually better, though by a surprisingly miniscule amount
try this ratio
according to this logic 0.88 * 2 = 1.76 so the ratio i have is much better correct?
guys what site is this i want to make some
Enka
ty
No crit rate
what website/service is used for displaying characters owned/stats for help?
.
oh im blind thank you
You have to add characters on your profile
yeah
this is what i have (sad f2p noises)
im debating whether i should pull for venti in ayakas permafreeze team addition or pull for mistsplitter when her rerun comes
you can also take your atk into account, if it changed
use:
atk * (1 + cr * cd)
But still sword users got lots of crit dmg on weapon they can easily manage it
i barely have the time, but i have it in mind
Zhongli
got him two days ago
Oh I forgot about this what should I do
I got no primos for him
Venti with faruzan performs very good
kazuhas rerun is probably going to be in july 2024 or later so uh
Hydro archon it is then
nawwwww im fine with the f2p teams i have i just want to improve my main dps's as much as i can, meaning ayaka and wanderer
feast ur eyes on my pitiful wanderer
domain expansion
I mean like you can use crit dmg sword with crit rate artifact and manage attack in artifacts
Crit rate circlet on freeze dps 
Oh
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/915180263003267094/1143787615062069258/image0.jpg
just do smth like this
i mean to be honest if u get crit rate circlet and all ur artifacts get crit damage sub stat rolls it would be fine but cd would be the way to go on ayakas circlet
Ayayayayayayyayaka
Cr circlet on ayaka = cringe.
it's extremely difficult to hit even 200 CD with a crit rate circlet
my days how much damage does that do on a full rotation
Your build is just shit if you run cr circ
ticks like a bit under 27k last time i ran it
holy damn
even my childe runs crit dmg circlet 
team comp?
that's with full buffs
im kind of torn on what i should do to keep pushing my account, is there something i should set up to show what i have and should work on? or is it just show 8 characters on enka
No
mona (4-totm, ttods) talent 6 bcs 70/70
kazuha (last time i ran this he was also 70/70 so ~850 EM, 4-vv)
diona (4-NO)
those are all the buffs i had running when she did that much
You can uss that official hoyoverse app(i am not sure)
it was in abyss so without any of the abyss cards it would likely be a bit less but i can't remember what i picked
it wasn't a dmg test thing, just a normal abyss run
im still shooting for 90 CR though
You have potential my child
Guys
How do i get over someone death?
He was too close to me
I can't take it
R.I.P
Scorpion:(
He was the coolest yellow boy
My favourite main
So, any answers?
atk cd 
wait im sorry i might be stupid how would you use hoyolab to show that 
you can load your enka showcase into akasha. you can do this with all the characters you have if you want to show more than 8 builds. it might be a lot of information for someone here to look at in one go so if you do that and then tell us what you're looking for/want us to look at/what you're trying to achieve in ur account
then someone can look at it and tell you
but if you want advice that has nothing to do with the actual builds and more with the characters you can just send SS of ur hoyolab profile to show all ur characters
oh okay so if i keep swapping the characters in my enka around and loading it into akasha it will save the information?
yeah
ok one second then dont mind me
whats dionas buff
noblesse
the reason i use her on the team is cryo resonance + heals + shield + movement speed buff and she also holds the noblesse arti set
Sounds for nerds
i need to get that on her then
i use ayaka xingqiu sucrose and kaeya
sucrose being mainly the only buffer
with vv and ttods
on the same build, according to akasha, the "average" tick should be 30k with those same buffs if everything was actually maxed
whats the akasha
my ayaka is currently 80/80
probably but i need a shielder and healer
a site that loads builds from enka into a profile it creates on ur UID, and then ranks them and calculates how much damage they do/how good they are
https://akasha.cv/profile/614777624
this is my akasha profile

how do i do it for me? my uid is in my user
r5 catch for zhongli good?
go to akasha and click profiles
Could someone tell me why people think bennett is so good? Everytime i use him it just feels like he does healing and nothing else
then type ur uid
because he give a lot of atk as a buff
do you not have C1 bennett
if you don't have C1 bennett the atk buff only activates while the character is above 70% HP
I do. he does not give off alot of dmg
but if you have C1 then any character in his field gets +1k atk or even more if he is built right
I did lvl up his talents. i don't remember the weapon
this is my friends childe, is it good?
Needs a bit more crit rate
😬
yea thats what i told her too she has awful crit rate on everything
Also ER
i like that they did not get c4 👍
just check her sxiao 😭
That goblet looks +4
here is my childe for reference
her alhaitham triggers me the most
Here's my child for reference
these builds terrify me what tf
my child has more cr than yours 
And mine has more cdmg 
your child ascends with crit 
Sorry to ask but would anyone be willing to help as to what i should build/focus on with my account to help it? ive sort of been lost the past few weeks and cant really get a good grip on what i should focus on, i have all my information loaded up on akasha now if that helps
oh wait does klee even ascend crit
also last build of hers this is her wanderer
Try again
sure
augunfiejcb well i guess i maybe have more CV ⁉️
oh wait how do i link this do i just take the account link url directly
just say ur uid and i can go look at it
653030539
Just keep trying to one up me 
@haughty lotus should I whel for bronya
Man... this is depressing to look at
k i have ur profile up, what are you trying to do with ur acc
guys ive loaded my team into akasha how do i calculate the damage
you can only see it based on specific presets
like the team i use is the standard ayaka freeze team so it's what the leaderboard is for
how do i do that?
if there is a leaderboard for your team you can see it
click the character's name in akasha
then click show leaderboards
and then go into the leaderboard and it will say dmg
Im mostly torn on if i should work on making my wanderer hypercarry team super juiced and fix his artifacts, or if i should build a third team and work on my hyperbloom as well since ive been having an issue where if the abyss isnt suited well for wanderer i struggle a lot with it. like even this easy one im struggling with because i cant deal with the cryo shield spam of copellius
if you actually wanna calculate how much your specific team will do then use optimizer
your wanderer team looks fine
how does totm help in buffing ayaka exactly
assuming zhongli faruzan and whoever else
Amenoma is a free weapon
yea its Zhong/Bennet/Faru
gives an atk buff
Same way it buffs everyone else
okay then yeah all your builds for all those characters look fine
hmmm could you tell me a rotation for my ayaka xingqiu diona sucrose permafreeze team
yeah @thorn knoll
who do you use for hyperbloom
If you use sac on Diona then do E Q E
ty
hyperbloom 
but wait that way ttods doesnt buff
build it with ttods on sucrose and diona having noblesse
Use xingqiu EQ > Diona EQE > Sucrose > Ayaka
your XQ is alright, could be improved but you have enough ER and that's what really matters
your yelan could definitely use a crit rate circlet, it would be a huge improvement, everything else is okay, you also have enough ER on her so it's fine for now. end of the line is a pretty interesting weapon choice though, fav is better and you wouldn't have to run ER sands
nahida is okay, idk what her ER reqs are like if any so maybe more but honestly i have no clue
i don't see a kuki on ur profile
Thank you 
For the life of me I couldn't figure it out
nope ive wanted to get her for so long
yeah i honestly have no clue how nahida works, i don't have her and i also don't run many dendro comps so probably get a second opinion about that nahida build
oh one sec i see her here
yes
well, sometimes
sucrose e e q then ayaka e q charged attack spam?
👍
i do know she needs a new goblet the domain doesnt want to cough up EM 
Honestly same, only team I use her in is with Nilou 
Xingqiu burst has 18s uptime with c2. Most teams with Xingqiu use his burst first in rotation 
Do a dash with Ayaka first
I see 
your team should function fine, although your xingqiu and yelan builds could both use some improvement
alright
so then would the best step for my account atm be emblem farming>
or since its strongboxable should i be going after another domain
You can just farm emblem and strongbox bad pieces into emblem
what would be the best rotations for wanderer, benny NO, faruzan with favonious and zhongli totm?
unfortunately not, shes c2

since yelan wants it so much should i swap who is holding my fav bow then? for context this is what bows i own
anyone
I'm pretty sure it's Bennett E Q Faruzan Q Zhongli E Wander E N2C
Then again, I don't own Wanderer
Faru is only c2 right
If you are using pre c6 Faruzan she needs it more most likely 
Needs 400% ER
nah she c6 i wanted a con on wanderer for the attackspeed 
Zhongli hE >Faruzan E CA Q > Bennett EQ > Wanderer
I'm exaggerating but not by a lot, it's about 280-300
with C2 faru the rotation for that team should most likely be Zhongli hE, Faru E CA Q, Bennet E Q, Wanderer (Q) CA E n2CA, Bennet E
Wanderer havers 
Wanderer ulti is only if its up that rotation anyway unless your using lost prayer, then you use it at the end of his E
I don't pull for mid characters 
meta has consumed you 
i use them both at the same time in abyss is my issue
Waifus are exceptions
ty
i mean i could run solo hydro for hyperbloom but who else would i use i guess
I was about to say, don't you own Eula?
I was trying to get my first xq back then

same cons as my yelan 
I got lucky 
I wish I had character banner luck
s🐳
My weapon banner luck is alright though
If it makes you feel better my Fischl is somehow still only c1 
It was two ten pulls 
And just recently I did a ten and got FGM
I got yelan at 53 pity and 13 pity on her first banner, Both 50/50. never got lucky after that
It be like that sometimes 
I got her at soft pity but got her weapon at 20
Why 
Omg haha so relatable I got my yelan at 10 pity
exdee
5 
I just don't have character luck, the earliest I've gotten a five star was at 40
And it was Eula
tao, yeah
Tao
Jade Cutter
Mine was yomia at 1 pity 
One in Inazuma, I believe
Gib
how to do it
I honestly don't remember, it's been a while
You can probably find a guide on YouTube though
what do i even google 💀
Tsurumi Island puzzles
I pulled on SoSS vs elegy and on verity vs polar star
it quickly became less interesting to pull on weapon for me. Like Beacon vs SoSS, I already had SoSS so it was a bad banner now
and I finally got stringless, so getting a crit bow for fischl is no longer a big improvement
If I could I would, I don't have any charge shotters on my account
So Amos and FGM are just sitting there at level one
interactive map might help
I pulled on Beacon just because I knew it wasn't coming back

what is a sub region
intentionally designed fomo 
but yeah, I was tempted for that reason as well. if the second weapon isn't good for me it's a skip though
key vs 1000 dreams + xiphos was interesting as well
This is all I could fine. See if it helps https://youtu.be/kCvLv5-lZtQ
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#inazuma #tsurumiisland
is tighnari or deyha's weapons ever coming back 
Nope

they dedge
it's possible but who knows
no way to know, but I'm not holding out hope
WSG + HOMA banner 😔
wolves stone grave
The standard character's weapons in the standard banner? impossible
too good 
Surely
when I started playing, I thought standard banner gave any random character (rather than a limited, bad pool) 
at that point everyone will start whaling on standard banner 
C18 Qiqi
You poor soul

I pulled on weapon banner thinking I'll get characters from standard banner anyway 
got pretty lucky that didn't backfire
:yo:


What is the minimum amount of ER needed on Nahida if played in an aggravate team with Yae / Fischl / Zhongli?
130 offield iirc 
100-120
without a second dendro it might be a little higher wouldn't it? in most cases aren't aggravate/spread teams a 2/2 split between dendro and electro?
worth considering that she won't be batteried as well without another dendro, though her burst is fairly cheap at 50
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memesicles with the L? 
You don't take Ws
🧐

😔

Hello would someone let me get some fish from their world im really close at getting the catch
I'm going insane i cant find the fish i need

If you still need, can join the Official server since the member cap is lifted and get their roles and find the coop channels, much more active 
Oh! Its been a while since i last checked so i didnt know thx

I have my nahida on 1000 em is that a bit too high
🤝
if bloom who needs em?
Who is in the team
hmm idk who's a good hydro applier but I want yelan is in it
Are you talking about Nilou bloom or hyperbloom…?
before i look up anything that will just flatly tell me where to find it, i've got one last glyph or whatnot to find before i can get the dragonspine craftable weapon. i see which stone is unlit at the treasure's location, but is there anything in-game which is supposed to be used to figure where to look for it?
nilou bloom but I don't have nilou.....
Don’t play plain bloom 
oh ok😭
bloom without nilou :diceofballs:
bloom with zhongli 
I want a team that is fun to play and also can be useful in abyss
Without nilou bloom is mid mid mid mid mid
😭😭😭😭 help
I see
You will struggle a lot doing plain bloom
Just the electro needs EM in hyperbloom
That’s fine
Hyperbloom 😍
who better lisa or kuki
Kuki and raiden, don’t use anyone else 
I should finish my kuki soon 🤔
so my team would be kuki kazu yelan and xq? would that work or there's a better option
You forgetting something? 
no
Dendro 

🧐 still need to level her and weap to 90
okay who's better for dendro application c6 dmc or c4 follei
|| nahida || dmc
probs later
tl;dr - does in-game point you where to look for the dragonspine craftable's sidequest places?
I don't think so, it's considered as a hidden quest I believe
best to just wiki/youtube guide it
le sigh. i wish there was more granularity than "look up something that pinpoints it". i need diagetics~
these ancient investigation journals seem to mention it, but i don't pick up on any leads from 'em
(holy crap, actually found it, guarded by a chest-unlocking ruin grader...which i had trouble turning my net off for to use skills on!)
Amazing hyperbloom team
what's better for kuki toukabou or iron
who is m
theyre kinda the same
so equal😥
yes
k-pop boy group
How long does it usually take to go from monstadt to inazuma archon quest?
is it alright to play with my acc in geforce now?
1-2 days
i believe it’s best to log out. geforce now is like a virtual internet cafe and it counts as logging in to a pc you don’t own.
what if i accidently forgot to logout?
but if you’d like to know more, check its T&C
you can log out of that device using hoyoverse login page
ooh alr
so its not entirely safe?
you’re 100% safe, just leave no trace of your info behind
alr
You can do it that fast?
yea, but you need a hefty 12-15 hours per day
I see
Third day in my new account and I'm at ar 16
Just went through the stormterror abyss princess cutscene
speed run wise (like every damn chest and side quest)
uhh
idk a few days
Alright
What are like the top 10 or so characters you guys would say are like super good to build if you have them
top 10 is very... divisive to say in the least
top5 are easier to pick though 
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinInvestment
you can check here to see units with high value investment as a reference point
Investment Priority Guide by Genshin Helper Team A character being rated 10/10 does not make them a must-pull or must-use This guide is to help players understand the value of a character and whether they would be worth the investment, not as an exact gauge and comparison of their strength as man...
which checks out with your "super good to build if you have them" part
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i thought this was hsr chat 
would freminet mika fischl kokomi work
Replace mika with rosaria
Damn the abyss easy now
Always has been
I could do it with hutao this time
yelan kokomi xingqiu bennett xiangling kazuha nahida raiden nilou hu tao 
not in that order
True hutao
Yea for first place
i chose xiangling for the ease of attainability/use that comes with her being a free 4 star with a fishing weapon while also being super good
i chose nilou for the fact that although not very versatile, she offers a solid comp that can be used in most if not all content and is quite f2p friendly (also im a bit biased
i chose tao because of the sheer numbers she puts up, that's it
zhongli can replace one of them as he is more versatile, but since rifthound release meta has been shifting back away from shields towards healing again so he is only useful in some comps
but other than that i'd say most every genshin player who knows what they're talking about would agree with the other 7 on this list (in no particular order)
yo
bro check dm pls
this is such a cope list I don't even know where to begin with 
but hey, more power for you if you think that way
nice
who would you replace other than the three i listed as uncertain
those other 7 are basically set in stone as part of the top 10
how are any of them not top 10
i'm genuinely curious
bcs i made that list with the genshin roster in front of me and i genuinely could not think of anyone to fill the other 3 slots
you're literally missing Sucrose, Xingqiu, Fischl
which is why i put those
xingqiu is on there
well still missing Sucrose and Fischl
sucrose is just kazuha but worse

fischl is uhhhh an oversight on my part
sure bud
c6 mika?
sucrose does deserve the list ig because C6 sucrose and c0 kazuha are basically the same in reaction teams
so yelan kokomi xingqiu kazuha raiden nahida bennett (from the original list)
+fischl
+sucrose
Sucrose doesn't need c6 to be better than c0 Kaz for reaction team (dmg-boost wise)
depends what reaction
anything that relies on EM?
transformative reactions yeah
???
but a vape or melt team will take kazuha
lol
Sucrose gives a better buff if kaz is not c2
that's wild
because i have both and do more with kaz
oh but i run EM sands...i'm ki
i cant find the rules but leaks arent allowed right?
kind of a dumbass sometimes
leaks aren't allowed, yes
kk just making sure
between sucrose and kazuha it's just team dependent, even in some vape and melt teams kazuha is better even at c0
internat yupge
okay so who is last slot then
anyways if im running a freze team and a electro charged team and i have one slot for a anemo charecter whats better kaz or sucrose
kaz on freeze sucrose on electro charged
okay thx
told u it's very divisive
I wouldn't even put Kokomi, Raiden, Nilou, Xiangling, and Hu Tao from your list
i dropped xiangling nilou and tao already
i said those three were very debatable and gave my reasons for putting them and then immediately dropped them
not putting kokomi... maybe i'm biased
but not putting raiden top 10 is kinda wild
who else goes on there for you
Raiden power level at c0 is grossly overestimated
at c2 sure you can make the argument that she's easily top 10 
raiden utility at c0 is not
but im tryna see who you think is top 10
yeah I'm not getting baited for this 
no i'm genuinely wondering what 😭
I'd settle for top 5, that's my stance from the start
ehhhhhhhhhhhh
would it be a dps
nah DPS finds a hard time to fit top10 
Where OPPA
exactly
this person says no xiangling top 10 ‼️
Oh
Xiangling maybe fits, but it's arguable
ehh
someone being glued to 1 unit isn't a good argument for top10
top10 should be more of team "cores"
Yea that's a bit of a massive downside of xl
don't even mention Sukokomon or Funerational now 
Since even for the teams where she's a support she's either glued to Bennett or she brings nothing to the team 
okay so in no particular order we have:
yelan
kokomi
xingqiu
kazuha
raiden
nahida
bennett
fischl
sucrose
those teams have both been dead for a very long time now lol
I agree with raiden top 10 tho
this is 9 characters
Raiden has always been a sidegrade at c0, idk
and we have someone saying no raiden or kokomi
That's reasonable ig, although c0 Raiden isn't super great and kokomi could honestly be dropped even in favor of zhongli
sidegrade from what
I guess alhaitham
to literally other options where you'd otherwise slot her at c0
zhongli last slot would be fine by me tbh although he's less meta
Could be in there as well
al haitham top 10 is kinda crazy ngl
she's the best option for hyperbloom from a damage standpoint, but doesn't heal like kuki
Her most impressive comps at c0 are like, hyperbloom and rational
She's a sidegrade for both of these
just Kuki 😔
what even is the dmg diff between Raiden and Kuki HB
she allows you to bring ur ER reqs down though
... what ER reqs down
okay so in no particular order we have:
yelan
kokomi
xingqiu
kazuha
raiden
nahida
bennett
fischl
sucrose
zhongli(?)
She buffs burst dmg of Yelan/Xinqiu
Zhongli is never top 10
well it depends
A lot of chars do that actually! It depends on the rotation used, she's funnily enough not even the most energy efficient last slot for national
ur depend
that's what i said but i'm fine with him being on there at the bottom
Raiden has lower CD between hits and buffs yelan/xq
Kuki heals
no shit I'm asking dmg% diff 😭
Oh
like sim
i'm just trying to figure out who else you guys are gonna put there
being able to hit cores more often aside, one of the advantages of raiden is more flexibility with rotation since her E lasts 25 seconds
because in no world is haitham top 10 what
not haitham no lol
Idk it's like between 5k to 20k dps depending on how hyper optimized the sim is 
bruh 20k
Honestly?
Drop Raiden Koko
Add in Ayato Venti
venti...?
Last slot is a bit decisive
can someone help
fr?
Big grain of salt, it's comparing sims of different optimization
Venti is entirely reliant on his gimmick working, which can make his spot in top10 rather debatable 
Venti trivializes 90% of the game, and in the part of the game that he doesn't he's still a good pick
granted his Q gives good mv + energy restore
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+vv never hurts
Ok but it works in majority of the content and when it doesn't he's just a really good sub dps that can give energy and proc vv
i wouldn't really put ayato top ten either tbh 😭 idk maybe it's because i don't use dendro as much as i should
he's not even dendro what
you could also assume that the second part of the sentence is a separate idea
u can ask for help, AND you can help other travelers with genshin impact
Ayato isn't reliant on dendro
any content where venti's gimmick works is easy content
because it's all mobs
bosses and tanky shits don't get affected by venti's gimmick
I mean it is but I don't think that's the point they wanted to make
which is still fine, his Q is buttload of dmg
whenever it's just mobs it definitely is
a lot of his teams are bloom based
but that's the thing though
Ah so 12-1-1 is harder than 12-1-2 then?
but it's not, the fact that it's the same sentence means that it's regarding genshin impact
Indeed, that's part of why he's good
Not the entire reason
what was in there again
we've never had full boss abyss though? so that point is moot
First is kenki
2nd is hydro eidolons, and mekas
i agree that both characters are good but i can't see them going top 10
the second half was harder purely because all my teams involve hydro characters
Venti I can maybe understand reluctance since his performance varies
Ayato is incredibly strong
like, multiple per team

nope, in this case you can assume it as 2 ways
- you can ask for help in genshin and help others in genshin
- you can ask for help and you can help others in genshin
i can't do hydro eidolons
George stop taking the bait
i see why they're struggling with homework
😭
FOUL
broski i gave you detailed instructions for the answer like three messages under your question and i got ignored
im reading it and i dont understand
maybe you should drop the class and take the lower level
the semester just started it's not too late
i dont understand
I'd do it any day eyes closed
Kokomi's only real advantage is that she heals
idk maybe my ayato is bad because i balanced him around mist and i do not have mist
al my teams have one hydro atleast sp im coping with mono pyro yoimia and got 6/9 stars

most of my teams run 2 or 3
Ayato doesn't need Mist
yeah but mine is balanced around it
..why?
I don't even know what that means
it's like my yelan was ass before i finally got aqua
???
Are you running like 70/120 waiting for mist
Ayato uses the same stacks
Idk how you build your Yelan but
i have like 77/165
good lord
damn
94 something like that
we're (somehow) debating top10 units for genshin
top unit is yoimia (im not baised)
ofc you'd peace out, Scaramid wouldn't make it even past top30
perhaps?

anyways im not gonna join this
i promise i'm not THAT bad at this
instead
only kinda bad at this

good goblet and decent-ish circlet, sands is ok
idk i don't have good enough ER subs
your Tigh is c1? pog
cringe point for using Bennett though
HOW U DOING ALL THIS... I clear in 50 secs bruuu
YOU WHIFFED 80% OF YOUR INITIAL BURST
ehh its the best option for frontload that i have
ACU
i know
god damn that is a little....
thats intentional btw
...low on er? yeah ik
fym intentional
low on crit..
i dont wanna kill Kenki too quickly coz it will teleport away before my 2nd E refresh on its second phase
i can 3 CA and not Q but that is not enough to kill the entire 1st phase
yeah i had to get at least a little ER
I think its a nice run
its on the first try when i barely have any ideas what to do
if i went for just crit i could get more
it is I'm just nitpicking
and like 10 more tries later i figured thats best
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