📌gimshim-help

[quaint fern]

yeah I think its more of a liability thing on their part

kyo the goat

I use him for AK but i know he does genshin stuff as well

interactive map is your friend

I really hate how comments aren't allowed on the official map so you might want to check the unofficial interactive map for some puzzles

paimon.moe has an achievement tracker I think?

it can help you track down hidden quests

[sick quarry]

Question: Can you access Fontaine even though you’re behind in the Archon Quest?

[rugged sparrow]

you can explore and do stuff there, yes

[sick quarry]

Okay. Thanks!

[dull smelt]

Yes, the only area you cannot access without the archon quest is inazuma, and therefore enkanomiya

[sacred bridge]

hows my freeze Ganyu?

[dull smelt]

No you can’t, remember the storm barrier?

[dull smelt]

Jesus

It damages you and knocked you back, plus there’s lighting strikes

[rugged sparrow]

good sands, everything else needs more work though

[quaint fern]

crit rate could be higher but looks good imo

i'm not sure about freezeyu er requirements tho

[sacred bridge]

about how much crits does she needs?

[neon harness]

30 or so with 4p bliz

[sacred bridge]

base attack?

[dull smelt]

Dude the artifact set increases crit rate by 40 percent against cryo affected targets

[olive isle]

crit rate seems enough (40 from blizzard, 15 from resonance, 20% from ganyu's passive)

[quaint fern]

yeah 35-40 is what I'd recommend

[quaint fern]

20 is only applied to her CA

[rugged sparrow]

you still want ~45% to cap the cr

[quaint fern]

most of freezeyu's damage is from burst

so you can effectively ignore the 20% cr buff for freezeyu

[neon harness]

frozen*
if its only cryo affected its only 20%

[sacred bridge]

You know its sad for me that my Freeze Ganyu cannot reach her full potential because I lack Mona

[dull smelt]

Huh

[neon harness]

kok

[rugged sparrow]

do you have Kok

[sacred bridge]

i dont have her

[dull smelt]

Kokomi works too

[quaint fern]

you need kok

[sacred bridge]

[rugged sparrow]

omega rip

[sacred bridge]

JEAN TOOK MY KOK

[dusty cape]

kok

[quaint fern]

classic example is morganna

[olive isle]

yangu venti diona mona

[sacred bridge]

Im stuck with using Xingqui for Freeze Ganyu its horrible...

I do have Kazuha to swirl

[rugged sparrow]

abusing Ganyu's quadratic scaling against multiple targets

[sacred bridge]

thats pretty much it

I have Yelan

and most of the 4 star hydro characters

[sick quarry]

Okay, so mainline Teyvat (the other 6 nations, I’m assuming) is okay to explore without the Archon Quest, it’s just Inazuma that’s the problem. Got it!

[quaint fern]

it's been a while

iirc ganyu's burst works where it's guaranteed to hit an enemy once per 5 icicles if there are less than or equal to 5 enemies within her range

the idea is to succ with venti so that her icicles hit all the enemies for the 40smth hits that her burst has in total

[rugged sparrow]

both are cope for freezeyu

[quaint fern]

normally, you run diona to battery and then mona to apply omen and then use moan's freeze omen extension tech

[sacred bridge]

would Kazuha work

[quaint fern]

kazu works yeah

[sick quarry]

Forgot about that, but I kinda consider it a part of Liyue, in my opinion.

[rugged sparrow]

50 hits yeh

[sacred bridge]

gud Im not pulling Venti on his rerun

[quaint fern]

venti was traditionally used because 1) we didn't have kazuha back then and 2) venti's grouping is superior in cases when they can be sucked

[rugged sparrow]

Venti works better due to stronger CC

[sick quarry]

True.

[quaint fern]

morganna has fallen off because venti has fallen off

[sacred bridge]

[rugged sparrow]

ehh

[sacred bridge]

Venti seems meh now a days

[rugged sparrow]

still good on previous abyss on top half where Venti just trivializes it

[sacred bridge]

Ah

[neon harness]

i got venti to play morgana but both venti and ganyu ended up benched 😔

[sick quarry]

I’m pretty sure it’s behind a World Quest.

[quaint fern]

I never had and still don't have venti so I was never able to run the classic morganna

and then I was lazy so I gave my BS set to ayaka while I swapped ganyu to melt

[rugged sparrow]

I dont even have BS set to play freeze properly

[sacred bridge]

Who do I use this for

[reef comet]

Eula

[neon harness]

balls

[sacred bridge]

why is my aqua bow a claymore

[neon harness]

😔 sucrose

[random jasper]

One more interesting thing is that if the enemy is big (like a boss) more icicles are guaranteed to hit them

Some hitbox logic I believe

[quaint fern]

wait that's a thing?

i should go check the wiki on ganyu's burst

I never use it anymore

[rugged sparrow]

thats just RNG

[sacred bridge]

also daddy zhongli in 3 days

[turbid canopy]

can someone help me make a good team

[reef comet]

lol

send character list

[random jasper]

I had heard so. I still use it in melt since I use Kazuha 🤣

[sacred bridge]

bro Im been wanting to pull on that old fart ever since I got back last year

[neon harness]

send a ss of ur characters

[sacred bridge]

[quaint fern]

I got my first d*luc when I lost on childe's first banner

now I have 5 of d*luc

I hate d*luc

[rugged sparrow]

real

[quaint fern]

looks like you can run national, keking aggravate, nari spread?

you should build your xq, it's like having a second yelan (I hate that I'm making this comparison)

book boy came first smh

[rugged sparrow]

it's a good agg team

[quaint fern]

check kqm

usually dendro teams aren't really strict about rotation though

[sacred bridge]

bro Diluc... Idk i got him in standard I was hopping for Mona

THis GaMe woulDnt giVe mE MonA

[rugged sparrow]

especially Keqing since she's pretty quickswap-py

[neon harness]

xiangling xingqiu yelan benny
nari fischl yaoyao/healer-shielder flex, flex
keqing fischl yaoyao sucrose

[quaint fern]

especially with tf when you just spam e

[rugged sparrow]

catgirl on crack

[sacred bridge]

which set?

[quaint fern]

I'm not really familiar with the general rotations of keking aggravate

[sacred bridge]

Its for hyperbloom right?

[neon harness]

spam random shit

[rugged sparrow]

it's just random bullshit go

[neon harness]

instructor/tenacity surely

[rugged sparrow]

usually Keqing EE > swirl > dendro > Fischl E > Keqing EQE

[sacred bridge]

I have C1 Keqing lost it on Ayaka

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ayaka-gif-22666186

[quaint fern]

oh swirl was first

I've always been doing yuegui first :haha:

[rugged sparrow]

otherwise electro aura deleted by dendro

• swirling first helps Fischl's "frontload" from E

[quaint fern]

ah yeah, using my brain haha

everyone needs the gay canadian

[rugged sparrow]

and depending on the anemo slot, also helps to snapshot buffs to Oz

[quaint fern]

(note: gay and canadian was a joke)

[sacred bridge]

welcome to 2023

[quaint fern]

yeah I don't want to be canceled on jenhelp LOL

[quaint fern]

(not that there is anything inherently funny at all about being gay or canadian)

bro nahida's range is big

I understand the keqing thing but kazuha's grouping is sufficient

[rugged sparrow]

assuming Venti works in his niche, everything else is not of a concern

[quaint fern]

• kazuha = more dmg so funny

[thorn pecan]

is this card back from the event gonna be given out later? How many attempts do i have to win 3 times?

[sacred bridge]

IDk if I want to build Keqing

I literally have all electro characters

[sick quarry]

which artifact set should rosaria have? blizzard-strayer? or Wanderers Troupe?

[rugged sparrow]

depends on team

[small blade]

Noblesse or blizzard in freeze teams

[turbid canopy]

anyone know how to get heros wit fast

[rugged sparrow]

Fischl makes Keqing playable in agg

[turbid canopy]

how

[sick quarry]

rosaria,kuki,barbara, and fischl

[sick quarry]

revelation blossoms

[rugged sparrow]

4p Nob would be the best in that team

[neon harness]

clearing chests/quests/leyline/trees

[turbid canopy]

whats that

[rugged sparrow]

leylines

[sick quarry]

the blue puffy cloud icons on your map

[quaint fern]

you know the blue cloud things on your map

[sick quarry]

look for them

[quaint fern]

there should be one in every nation

[rugged sparrow]

correct

[quaint fern]

one should be yellow, the other blue

[turbid canopy]

why not just say leylines then

[quaint fern]

you want the blue one

[sick quarry]

blue is xp papers, yellow is mora

[quaint fern]

okay

why didnt you just call them leylines

[sick quarry]

cuz leylines can be uynclear

[quaint fern]

then again, I would have assumed that you know what leylines are when I said farm, honest mistake on my part

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MAN

I don't even know what a reveleation blossom was until today

[quaint fern]

day 1 player btw

[reef comet]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-club-penguin-club-penguin-dance-skill-issue-gif-24610458

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1086215993539448883.png?size=160&name=Skill Issue

[quaint fern]

yunyun why are you fake memey

is everyone doing this to buli me 😭

[dusty cape]

Club penguin dance

[neon harness]

🤭

[dusty cape]

[swift crown]

👉👈

[neon harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140066667477606491.gif?size=48&name=CatKiss&quality=lossless

[swift crown]

😔 i think my mom just indirectly called me fat

[dusty cape]

[hot python]

Good investment to crown xl ult?

[neon harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/850545860030627850.gif?size=48&name=Cryge&quality=lossless

[rugged sparrow]

sure

[swift crown]

😔 i hate it out here

[neon harness]

😔

[fluid forge]

oh right its sunday so i can crown bennett's ult
i realised im never using up my 18 crowns

[turbid canopy]

how do you do the rhythm gamemode thing

[fluid forge]

you press buttons

[open ridge]

should i get more crit?

[turbid canopy]

no like how do you get it

[fluid forge]

you talk to the guy, there's a quest

[dusty cape]

^

[turbid canopy]

whos the guy

[fluid forge]

if you click on the event doesnt it direct you to the quest

[turbid canopy]

it only an event?

[fluid forge]

yeah the mega meka melee one?

[turbid canopy]

you have to go all the way to fontain to do it

[fluid forge]

yes

[turbid canopy]

i havent unlocked a single fontain thing

[fluid forge]

well you should

[reef comet]

send build through https://enka.network/, it only wants your uid

[fluid forge]

but you have 7 more days until the event ends
some parts of the event also requires you to unlock some underground areas from quests

[dull smelt]

And you need to display the character and have view stats enabled

[open ridge]

do i send a link or a pic?

[neon harness]

both work

[dull smelt]

Click download, then save the image, then send it here

[open ridge]

Im still working my build and talents but I wanna know how much cr i should have

[neon harness]

you need an anemo goblet skull

[quaint fern]

Anemo goblet

[open ridge]

I dont have one right now thats why

[quaint fern]

You don't need 2pc 2pc

[dusty cape]

Anemo goblin

[quaint fern]

You'll gain more dmg from using an off piece goblet for now

Rainbow your xiao

[open ridge]

okayy

[neon harness]

curent amount is fine, more is better but dont sacrafice too many other stats for that, use optimizer if you want

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/suika-touhou-japanese-goblin-ibuki-gif-23549706

[reef comet]

get full set of vermillion

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-zy0x-genshin-impact-xiangling-gif-25086180

[open ridge]

all my other pieces is flat def

not kidding

[quaint fern]

Back to the mines my friend

[dusty cape]

Literally

[open ridge]

yea

[narrow folio]

Zy0nix

[umbral sedge]

mr socks

[narrow folio]

"We are Japanese Goblin" "We are Japanese Goblin" "We are Japanese Goblin" "We are Japanese Goblin" "We are Japanese Goblin" "We are Japanese Goblin" "We are Japanese Goblin"

[umbral sedge]

[velvet sage]

well the ideal ratio is 1 to 2 but what character is this on

[neon harness]

lol thats xiao

[haughty hawk]

heyyyy

[reef comet]

oh wow, that's xiao, he's so short that I can't see him

[haughty lotus]

Go sleep

[neon harness]

nu u

[haughty lotus]

Sus

[neon harness]

😔

[haughty hawk]

u first

[neon harness]

f12 first half mono pyro thoughts

[haughty lotus]

Second half

[reef comet]

just do enough dmg to kill the crab

[neon harness]

first half surely

[haughty lotus]

[neon harness]

whele moment

[haughty lotus]

Not even c4 xiangling

[reef comet]

edited sus

[neon harness]

[reef comet]

truly yelan main

[neon harness]

why is that the strogest single strike 😭 i was using raiden

[haughty lotus]

How much EM does she have

[reef comet]

probably E nuke

[neon harness]

not that much 😔

[haughty lotus]

[reef comet]

38khp, whele

[neon harness]

😳

[shell citrus]

how to open this cage

[reef comet]

could be quest related that i forgor

[dusk galleon]

its a quest

[shell citrus]

ow

[scenic pebble]

Which one is better

[pine pecan]

which new bp weap is best/good to get

[honest heart]

a

guys

i finaly got my rtx laptop

max genshin time

[scenic pebble]

Depends for who, the new claymore is worst of all though

[jolly junco]

the sword and polearm are the best ones imo, depends on ur characters and what else you got tho

[narrow folio]

don't get talking stick

[neon harness]

er is ass on both lols

[scenic pebble]

c1 and xq it doesn’t matter

[neon harness]

🧐

[small blade]

Even then its not enough unless you use sac xingqiu and funnel one E to Yelan

[scenic pebble]

Yeah he has sac too

[neon harness]

use optimizer for ur artifacts instead, 2nd one has more hp which might be better even in double hydro

[neon harness]

r3+?

[scenic pebble]

Yes

[narrow folio]

What?

[jolly junco]

I think you misunderstood their comment

they're saying their ER doesn't matter

they're not saying that xingqiu doesn't matter

[dusty cape]

Nice story bro

[neon harness]

lmfao

sure

[small blade]

[narrow folio]

cool story bro

[haughty lotus]

ok

[umbral sedge]

i've been up for 24 hours!

[reef comet]

what, someone has cool story, i missed it

[dusty cape]

nt

[waxen helm]

pensiv i missed as well

[sharp saddle]

oh no 😔

[umbral sedge]

Hallo handsome, hope your day is going well.

[sharp saddle]

been fooling around today, a lil bit empty minded XD

should you have some rest soon?

[flat aurora]

which stats enhanced?

[umbral sedge]

I will sleep soon

[sharp saddle]

one minute, I'll send smth over

[umbral sedge]

You can see the stats enhanced.

[neon harness]

Crit rate 2 times, crit dmg 1 time, hp one time

[flat aurora]

oh i see

do u think it’ll be better than this one?

for yelan that is

[jolly junco]

you are on the genshin optimizer site

optimize your yelan and find out

[reef comet]

i feel like the upper feather is better already, it's 16+

[shell citrus]

is my crit ratio good on yoimiya

[sharp saddle]

done, check it out

[reef comet]

http://enka.network/

[thorn knoll]

Im a f2p player and i dont have that many options for a second team, im trying to make a decent second one to get abyss done.
First team is ayaka, kaeya, xq, sucrose

Im thinking of making a second team with tighnari and fischl, but im not sure who to use with them. Ive seen collei/dendro traveler as a third and idk what to put on 4th can some1 help?

[shell citrus]

??

[reef comet]

show your build on that

[reef comet]

decent flower, bad feather, bad sands, decent goblet, decent circlet, your crit stats are rather low, consider using aqua, a crit stat weapon

[rare iron]

Need to see who you have

[rare iron]

? That is aqua

Am I missing a joke

[rugged sparrow]

probably phrased badly

[rare iron]

Ohh considering

[rugged sparrow]

yeah

[rare iron]

Ok makes sense

[shell citrus]

circlet is hat?

[rare iron]

Yes

[thorn knoll]

Im on my phone i cant open genshin, could u suggest characters and ill tell uf i i have or not?

#📌gimshim-help message

Those are mostly all the characters i have

[shell citrus]

thanks

[flat aurora]

i don’t rlly know how it works…

[jolly junco]

there are video guides attached on the site

[flat aurora]

oh ok i’ll check those out

[neon harness]

Ayaka xingqiu sucrose Layla
Nari fischl healer/shielder flex Lisa/flex

🧐

[rare iron]

Ayaka Barbara Sucrose Rosaria
Wanderer Xingqiu Xiangling Bennett

[neon harness]

Wanderer Benny Layla flex
Shame I don’t see a faruzan

[rare iron]

Oh yeah Tighnari Fischl Lisa whatever works

You'd look out for Yaoyao

[lapis shuttle]

What main stats and sub stats should I get for yelan in EOSF?

[rugged sparrow]

depends on team, but going ER/Hydro/crit is the goal you should aim for with Fav

[jolly junco]

wanderer national

get knocked out of the sky and team dies of lack of energy

[rugged sparrow]

Favge Wanderer poggers

[jolly junco]

true

[rare iron]

Juust don't swap to wanderer

[neon harness]

[rare iron]

Use his skill to dodge enemies while ur Pyronado swings around you

[umbral sedge]

Scaramid.

[rare iron]

Big brain

[neon harness]

hp/er sands, hydro goblet, crit circlet
substas: er until req>crit, hp%

[lapis shuttle]

Is 200 recharge good for her

[umbral sedge]

It depends™️

[neon harness]

depends on team

[viscid osprey]

for childe team what are the requirements for a perfect rotation for each character
Childe -
Xiangling
Kazuha
Bennet ?

[small blade]

You mean the rotation?

Or ER requirement

[sharp saddle]

as we often refer to, a recipe for disaster

[viscid osprey]

yes and yes

[small blade]

Childe E > Bennett Q > Kazuha hE and (Q) > Xiangling Q and E > Childe rQ then melee for 9s. After that funnel Xiangling with bennet. For the 2nd rotation you can do the same thing again or if childe E is still on cooldown and enemy has riptide mark do Bennet Q > Childe CA > Kazuha hE and (Q) > same as before

[viscid osprey]

goddamnnnn for the ER requirement for each char?

[small blade]

Childe needs 120-130ish, Xiangling 190-210ish, Kazuha 180-200ish and bennet 200+. This is if you use Fav kazuha and proc fav twice

[sharp saddle]

made me appreciate Ayato even more

kek

[small blade]

Internat is way to dank

[gray oxide]

but is it as dank as the Alhaitham NA strings

[small blade]

Then there is multiple other things that can ruin your rotation and different rotation for each content

[viscid osprey]

I might as well bench that childe

[jolly junco]

minmaxing alhaitham NA strings is just for tryhards, it barely matters

[gray oxide]

im glad you asked, coz i fit perfectly into the category

[jolly junco]

[sharp saddle]

ah yes, tryhard people

i wish i were a tryhard people

[gray oxide]

anyways you pulling Lyney?

[jolly junco]

yeah i have him

and the legendary stage prop

im just farming for arti set before building him

[viscid osprey]

HYDRO archon wun hhuhuhuhu

[gray oxide]

time to play shielderless Lyney chop chop

[jolly junco]

nah i wont do that unless I feel like speedrunning and resetting 10 times until I don't get staggered/1 shot

[gray oxide]

nah just learn enemy pattern and it be pretty fun

[jolly junco]

i just need to learn how to make enemies not do anything for the 8 seconds while im firing 4 charged attack consecutively

[gray oxide]

😔

[jolly junco]

surely

[gray oxide]

i havent gotten a single mare piece

[rugged sparrow]

flower wer

[jolly junco]

show me your good 4pc mare set then

[rugged sparrow]

😔

[gray oxide]

now that i think about it

your Lyney actually kinda tanky

circlet

[jolly junco]

lots of def% less liable to getting 1 shot/shield breaking

[sharp saddle]

there's a funny guy in Amber main who actually stacked flat def on his Amber and made his Layla shield really really tanky

stacking sounds weird but well, used pieces with flat def

altho i don't really know if for bad base def, flat def > Def% or not

so far no flat stats I know outdo % counterpart

[jolly junco]

big brain move

[cobalt sable]

https://enka.network/u/745989705/ i dont know what to focus on and in what order to progress my account (layla is there for zhongli and will not be using her when i get him so dw about her)

[onyx yew]

how to do chamber 1

[cobalt sable]

u should probably have a shielder or healer on yoi team

sometimes its fine not too but i found it troublesome this abyss without one

u can use layla, thoma, zhongli pretty much any shielder

i couldnt 3 star chamber one but that might help

[primal latch]

Can someone give me tighnari comp? No yae

[cobalt sable]

tighnari, fischl, kuki, nahida maybe

what characters u got

[onyx yew]

yeah the problem the ai just dont wanna group up some times after the hydro phase

[jolly junco]

1. level more weapons to 90
2. talent levels (ascend fischl then E to 9)
   (xingqiu Q to 9 and E to 8)
   (nahida NA to 6 since on-field HB im assuming)
   (yelan Q to 9 and E to 8)
   3)more arti farm - you can farm 4pc golden troupe for fischl and strongbox emblem,
   once u get a 4pc golden troupe set with good stats you can go and farm emblem if you need better pieces for xingqiu/yelan still

[cobalt sable]

yeah i need a hydro gob for xq

ill get to doing that then thanks

[jolly junco]

a bit more CR and EM would be good for yoimiya, more CR for xingqiu, yelan as solo hydro with yoimiya is 250%+ er requirement too

xingqiu could probably run Atk sands, and Atk sands on fischl too

[cobalt sable]

i can run er sands with yelan but if i do her hp is only 27k

is that ok

[jolly junco]

yea

meeting ER req to burst every rotation on yelan is top priority

[cobalt sable]

i got this i dont have any onset sands for fischl

[jolly junco]

you'll get a bit more ER from lv 90 fav on yelan too

also when you get zhongli give him fav lance on hp/hp/crit rate

[cobalt sable]

i was gonna go homa hp hp crit rate

[onyx yew]

i just need too get this 3 star now

[cobalt sable]

bc i have a homa with no one to use it

[onyx yew]

im just confuse on what the team is

[jolly junco]

homa isn't worth unless ur building damage on zhongli, which in a yoimiya team isn't worth

[cobalt sable]

big rip i run fav then

[marble trout]

Anyone play on eu servers and can help me with a thing in sumeru ? Need world lv 8, just jump on a mushroom so i can get a chest 😭

[onyx yew]

hmmm what about this

[cobalt sable]

that probably would work, it would shred crab

the second half flower orbs have a dendro and geo shield i think

[jolly junco]

it should work but beidou isn't rly a good slot

[onyx yew]

wouldnt u want too shred the crab?

[cobalt sable]

yeah thats why it works

[jolly junco]

you can put like yae instead of beidou

[onyx yew]

who should i replace then

[cobalt sable]

yae

or raiden

[copper mist]

Also how does crab work exactly

Do you need to hit it from behind or something?

[onyx yew]

idk i just pray and hope kokomi can dmg it

[copper mist]

Lol yeah

[reef comet]

certain attacks will make its horn closer to the ground

[copper mist]

Oh you need to specifically hit its horn?

[reef comet]

ye

[jolly junco]

ayato is pretty good for it

cuz water droplets from burst can hit even when horns are not lowered

[reef comet]

cool, anyone try to fight the crab with monopyro team?

[copper mist]

140%

Brb playing Yoimiya Bennett Xiangling Kazuha

[onyx yew]

140% res???

damn

yay 36*

[viscid osprey]

a childe main OwO

[onyx yew]

Nah in a yoi main

I am just force to use childe

I did use her for chamber 3 too the defeat the couple

[raw basin]

How much er does main dps yelan need? Running aqua

[small blade]

Depends on team and dps yelan is not a thing until c6

[raw basin]

Untrue. You can dps with literally any character at any constellation. My Barbara hits 70k charge attacks with 75cr

Just not meta

[small blade]

Anything Yelan can do onfield, she can do it offield too. And for her to dmg you need to use burst

[raw basin]

When you beat everything in the game sometimes you want to have fun with characters and make supports main dps.

Just wanna know how much er she should have instead of debating how to play her lol

[small blade]

"Depends on team"

[raw basin]

To get the most out of emblem 4pc

[small blade]

You don't build extra ER to maximize emblem bonus. If your team has Xingqiu, it will lower your Yelan's ER req. So I need your team

[ripe carbon]

how do i unlock apep?

[raw basin]

Havent picked the team. Emblem does more burst dmg based off your er but i dont know the scaling and math of it. So i dont know what is an optimal amount to get highest damage. Or if its even worth going for the er scaling instead of other stats. Not worried about rotations getting ults back.

I can go 60ish cr with 260cd i think. But i wanted more cr. This is where shes at with random pieces that i think are the better ones put on for now

[small blade]

Don't stack ER just for emblem. She scales better with other stats. If you are not trying get her burst back then migh aswell use 2pc sets

[gaunt iron]

hi i need a team for floor 12 ignore[ levels or somethign :3c :3c :3c :3c :3c :3c;

sry i dont play for meta im a kaeya main probably half the useful characters i have arent even above lv60

[raw basin]

What would you say i should work on for this build so far besides 90 the weapon? @small blade

More hp?

[small blade]

A better feather and goblet. With more crit and hp

[sour birch]

is this a memeshot build lol

[small blade]

Ayato, Fischl, Bennet, Kazuha and Hu tao, Xingqiu, Yelan, Thoma should work

Or hu tao team in first half and Ayato, Bennet, Xiangling, Kazuha 2nd half

[raw basin]

Oh yeah true my feathers are actually awful. All of them. Will get back to farming emblem then. For the 2000th time

[gaunt iron]

no kaeya teams 😞

is 4 glad best on ayato if i dont have echoes

[small blade]

You can try Bennet, Xiangling, Rosaria, Kaeya for 2nd half ig. But it will be xiangling carrying

[small blade]

Glad, hod, nypmh all work

[gaunt iron]

does he need more er

[untold junco]

U need ER to have the ult faster, try to go around 200 tbh

[raw basin]

She has that when i swap her to support with elegy. I just wanna try her as main dps so supports can help with getting ult back. Just focusing on damage

[devout parrot]

which is better

[gaunt iron]

uh oomfie what do i build thoma as

shielder ??

[fluid forge]

if you build rosaria you can run ayaka freeze

[gaunt iron]

my rosaria is not making it past chamber 1 shes level 40

[fluid forge]

"if you build rosaria"

theres also wanderer teams

cos you have faruzan

or the mono hydro team that iwintolose used for speedrunning the current abyss (but with kokomi)

[olive isle]

2nd

[devout parrot]

hey

[gaunt iron]

i could do that but what abt the other half

[olive isle]

[devout parrot]

[olive isle]

woh

[devout parrot]

[olive isle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/899763415290097664/1114615604205322320/attachment-6.gif

[devout parrot]

very true

[olive isle]

you do that mostly?

[devout parrot]

most of the time, yes

[olive isle]

🤨

[copper mist]

Ok legit all rolls crit but just not incredibly high rolls lmao

Like how cursed is that ratio

[lunar swift]

should i level kokomi or yelan from 80 to 90 first? which is more valuable

[reef patio]

Does the 2 pcs set on retracing bolide works for the active character? Or the character that does the shield

[lilac hollow]

Active character

[reef patio]

Alr

[copper mist]

Both are pretty valuable and would prefer to be 90 so atm just pick who you like better or use more with the goal of lvling the other to 90 later too

However if you play Nilou bloom I would say 90 Kokomi is too big of a gain to pass up on

[lunar swift]

yeah i have like 4 hp scaling 5 stars that want the last ten levels and barely any books... do dendro em chars like nahida and alhaitam earn alot of the last 10 levels?

[copper mist]

Yes

[lunar swift]

yeah i have lvl 80 nilou need to level both ehhe

how to earn 1000 purple books

[copper mist]

Ley Lines

The blue ones

[lunar swift]

but i get like 30 per day😭

[copper mist]

Yeah it will take some time

Also exploration and events

If you have maxed teapot you can get up to 20 extra every week

[small blade]

The character that holds the set

[lunar swift]

yeah i buy the resin thingy a few books and a little artfact xp

these are all my lvl 80 chars and idk which to 90 first

[copper mist]

Okay yeah

[gray oxide]

Id do Yelan, Alhaitham, Tighnari, Nahida and Nilou

[marble fern]

Wich one is good for lyney?
4 wandered or 4 hunter

[elder bluff]

kazoo

[gray oxide]

4 hunter by a long shot

[copper mist]

Who do you use the most? But my choices would be
Kazuha, Alhaitham, Nilou, Fischl, Kokomi, Yelan, Nahida

Kazuha not being 90 is really

[marble fern]

ocakes

[copper mist]

Raiden 90 is valuable too if you play Raiden hyperbloom

[lunar swift]

i guess i mostly use yelan in most teams or i use all my chars a little since theyre all okay built

[copper mist]

With valuable in this case I mean mandatory

Cuz bloom teams without lv90 trigger is

[thorn knoll]

Guys id like to get ur opinions on a second team.
First is ayaya, xq, kaeya, sucrose (please dont recommend i switch out any of these)

Second team im thinking to build would either be tighnari quicken or wanderer

What would be my ideal second team? (I have faruzan c2 its not shown there)
#📌gimshim-help message

[copper mist]

You can do wanderer faruzan bennett layla

[lunar swift]

whats are good floor 12 teams?

[copper mist]

It wouldn't be an amazing team and require quite a bit of artifact investment

But you could do that

[thorn knoll]

I was told without faruzan c6 shes useless

[copper mist]

Swap Zhongli out for Xinqiu in the second team

[thorn knoll]

WIll it work with c2?

[copper mist]

Lies, she is still good to buff wanderer at C0 you just gotta do E -> charged attack and have her catch all those particles

[lunar swift]

but the hydro phantasms hurt me

[copper mist]

And she needs 300 ER%+

[thorn knoll]

O ic and would i need to build her around ER or can i focus on the usual CR/CD

[copper mist]

Then you gotta dodge their attacks...

I mean if you can beat abyss with that team

[lunar swift]

il try

[copper mist]

Then sure why not

But if you can't then you need to make it better and XQ would make it better

[copper mist]

I said she needs like 300+ ER so yeah focus on ER

Crit rate circlet to proc Favonius

[thorn knoll]

Also whats some good stats on my wanderer that i shpuls get? Not necessarily good but decent enough to get thru some high abyss floors

[copper mist]

You want crit and attack

[thorn knoll]

Like how much

[copper mist]

As much as possible

[thorn knoll]

Bare minimum for f2p

[copper mist]

He is a hypercarry most of that team's damage will depend on how good his artifacts are

And his talent levels etc.

What weapon do you have for him

[thorn knoll]

Uhhh i forgot

Oh right i have the uh

The green 3 star orb that gives CR i think it has a horrible passive tho

[copper mist]

Yeah don't use that

[thorn knoll]

I literally have nothing else to give him

[copper mist]

Do you have Dodoco Tales

[thorn knoll]

Nope

[copper mist]

The new fontaine craftable it is then

[thorn knoll]

O that would work

[copper mist]

Try to aim for 75/150 ratio for crit

But don't neglect attack completely

[thorn knoll]

Ill get that, any f2p weapons for the others in any of my two teams? The only good weapon i rly have is amenoma for ayaya

[elder bluff]

widsith can work at r5

[thorn knoll]

Everythingbis r0

Unless its craftable

[copper mist]

Favonius bow on faruzan, Bennett needs the sumeru craftable or the fontaine craftable at lv90, Layla can do whatever you got but if you have a favonius sword it would be nice

TTDS on Sucrose

[thorn knoll]

Ttds is the one that shreds res right?

[copper mist]

Xinqiu needs favonius sword more tho

[thorn knoll]

Oh wait no

[copper mist]

No it buffs attack

[thorn knoll]

Its the one that buffs ur next characyer

[copper mist]

Yes

But wait you had widsith?

[thorn knoll]

I do not think i have that many

[copper mist]

If you have just one give it to xinqiu

[thorn knoll]

I use the 3 star sword with ER on bennet and xq as of now

[copper mist]

Nooo

Bennett needs lv 90 fontaine or sumeru craftable

They give high base attack

[thorn knoll]

I told u i dont got jack 😭 i js got back to the game after sumeru released

[zinc needle]

is electro + dendro + electro = aggravate?

[thorn knoll]

Ok can u make multiple of them?

[copper mist]

Then atp sounds like you gotta focus on farming... Abyss might be a bit far away to worry about

[zinc needle]

how do u trigger aggravate

[copper mist]

Yes

[copper mist]

Yes that is aggravate

[zinc needle]

okie ty

[thorn knoll]

I have one team for like floor 9 and 10 but the other team needs work

[copper mist]

But not necessary btw Bennett just needs R1, sumeru craftable is slightly better cuz it gives ER

[thorn knoll]

My ayaya has like 50 cr 210 cd

[thorn knoll]

Ic ic

[reef comet]

ah, my eyes, ill go to sleep

[thorn knoll]

If i dont have a single favonious sword do i just give everyone the sumeru craftables

[copper mist]

No

[copper mist]

What? Refines do nothing for Bennett

[radiant crest]

Dendro + electro= quicken
Quicken+electro= aggravate

[zinc needle]

okay so apply dendro first? or it doesn't matter electro or dendro

[errant turret]

You can the jade cutter on standard right or was that jade spear?

[copper mist]

Spear

[errant turret]

Ok

[simple basin]

Is Hyperbloom the easiest to build and most practical? (Artifact farming wise and f2p weapons)

I have the Nahida+Kuki+Yelan+Xinqiu as my Main Hyperbloom team.

I'm wondering if Raiden could form a 2nd Hyperbloom with this set up:
Raiden, Yaoyao, Dendro MC+Kokomi

Is this 2nd team worth building?

[copper mist]

Just split Yelan and XQ on each team, you would lack hydro in the second team

[simple basin]

I'm exhausted farming the Blizzard Strayer for my Ayaka and Ganyu... It still gave me shit artifacts 2 months exclusive farming getting nowhere.

[copper mist]

But yes it's generally easy to build, lacks in aoe though

[errant turret]

Why yao yao?

[simple basin]

For Dendro application? Sorry I only have C1 Tighnari, C2 Yao yao, C6 Dendro MC, C2 Collei and Kirara for Dendro options

[errant turret]

Wouldnt tigh be better?

[simple basin]

I dont know which of them is gonna fit

[simple basin]

Actually. I forgot about him 😭

[errant turret]

Oh

[simple basin]

Wish I had his bow though ughhh

He shares Aqua Simulacra which I use on Yelan in my 1st team

[errant turret]

Do u have amos?

[simple basin]

He has my Ganyu's Amos on

[errant turret]

That could work

[simple basin]

Ahh

I am contemplating and rethinking about my plan to C3 Raiden (currently C0) if she is gonna be so viable on Hyperbloom too.

[errant turret]

Shes easy ur just looking for er crit and em, really really easy

[zinc needle]

why can't I equip

[errant turret]

Why not go raidon national its a good team for her (also her best best last i checked)

[errant turret]

Go near a fishing spot

[simple basin]

For my Electro applicators, I have:
C0 Raiden, C0 Yae, C3 Fischl, C6 Razor and C6 Dori.

[errant turret]

Yae is off feild and easy to build

[simple basin]

Ahh would Tighnari Yae Dendro MC and Kokomi work?

[errant turret]

Tigh ur main dps??

[simple basin]

Perhaps... But Im wondering for Hyperbloom team.

[errant turret]

Hi hidden hru??

[copper mist]

Kind of a cope team

[simple basin]

Yeah thought so too

[copper mist]

Yae doesn't consistently proc hyperbloom

[rugged sparrow]

Tighnari isn't ideal for hyperbloom either due to his frontloaded dendro app

[errant turret]

Go for it U can build tigh and yae together

[elder bluff]

drop kokomi, add fischl

[copper mist]

Yes but swap out koko

[simple basin]

Btw guys

[errant turret]

I forgot about random part

[errant holly]

should i c6 my bennett

[errant turret]

Hell yea

[simple basin]

If I make Fishcl and Yae Tighnari team, is the New Fontaine artifact good on them or should I stay with 2pc atk 2c atk/electro?

[errant holly]

so yes?

[errant turret]

It up to u tbh its doesnt really mess up any teams yet

[floral belfry]

Guys I need help with the tournament registration

Can some one help me

[errant holly]

oh ok im pretty sure lyney is gonna be happy knowing im gonna c6 benny

[errant turret]

Hiddens typing up a storm 😭😭😭

[floral belfry]

Can some one help me with that

[errant turret]

Type in ur uid and tcg lvl

[simple basin]

C0 Raiden, C6 Xinqiu C6 Dendro MC, C6 Sucrose as a 2nd Viable Hyperbloom?

[errant turret]

U gots kazuha???

[floral belfry]

Game uid and ar level

[errant turret]

No tcg lvl

What ar are u???

[lyric cargo]

in theory yes, but the team without Nahida won't be as great

it's kinda like diminishing returns. Now you're using the second best dendro, and the third and fourth best hydro for the job.

for single target, something like on-field baizhu could be the other team's dendro applier for example. it'll be worse in AoE.

You probably have Bennett from the current event and Xiangling from abyss floor 3. Gotta farm emblem for Xingqiu and Yelan anyways.

[simple basin]

I have C0 Kazuha, C0 Venti with both Em Em Em VV set

[floral belfry]

Can u tell me what is that because I'm new in game

[errant turret]

Whats ur ar?

[floral belfry]

21

[errant turret]

U cant do it yet

[floral belfry]

I started to play last year

[simple basin]

Yeah true... I'm just kinda burnt out from Artifact farming and also disappointed in my premium Ayaka Freeze team

[lyric cargo]

[errant turret]

Needs to be ar 36 i think

[lyric cargo]

what are your hydro options for freeze?

[floral belfry]

36 to join the cat tail event

[errant turret]

Yea because u need the cat tail

[floral belfry]

Thank u really appreciate it

[simple basin]

I have C0 Yelan, C6 Xinqiu, C0 Kokomi and C3 Barbara

[lyric cargo]

ah, so kokomi freeze

[errant turret]

Where can i find the jade cutter????

[simple basin]

Yes but its quite clunky

[errant turret]

Albedo??

Keqing rerun? its due

[simple basin]

Anyways... Thanks guys for insights! Appreciate yall!

[bright holly]

How much ER does yelan need in a team with xingqiu on sac?

[olive isle]

180-200, for specific er needs go to energy recharge calculator

[small blade]

Depends how many skills you can do on yelan per rotation

[bright holly]

Idk funerational rotation

[bright holly]

okie

[small blade]

There is a try hard rotation that allows you to do two yelan E per rotation

Iirc its on kqm, check it out if you want

[valid orbit]

Any good team recommendations? Currently at ar 38

[elder bluff]

anything goes

[small blade]

You don't need good teams for overworld. Most abyss teams feel terrible to use on overworld

But if you have Xingqiu try to use him with diluc

[ripe robin]

skill issue

[small blade]

Only takes 4 or 5 enemy camps to recharge Oppa burst

And everything dies before using her burst

[ripe robin]

just put a fav on everyone issue solved

[reef comet]

exactly how i solve my xiangling er problem

[jolly junco]

who plays xiangling in overworld

yae eee>nahida hold e to mark enemies and afk

[strong spade]

how do i build heizou as a dps

[jolly junco]

you can check the build guide pinned here

[strong spade]

oh thx

[reef comet]

ye, that's why i use whole fav team to charge xiangling in abyss hehe emoji

[fluid forge]

except hyperbloom teams

and teams with venti/kazuha

[uncut merlin]

hii id like to ask where is the place in fontaine where u can transition to swimming and walking

[reef comet]

activate the statue of the seven

[uncut merlin]

i already did but i dont know where is it exactly

[swift forge]

is this the place

[uncut merlin]

yes like that where is it?

[reef comet]

a lot of places are like that

[uncut merlin]

ohh i havent really explored fontaine yet so idk but thanks!

[swift forge]

in case you want to go there this is the location

[uncut merlin]

thanks!! 😄

[zinc needle]

better healer kokomi or baizhu?
or they're both good?

[copper mist]

Both good, you would go for one over the other depending on what other roles you want them to fill/what teams you want to play

or of course preference

[zinc needle]

oooooo ty ty! but u can only use his elemental skill once if u don't have c1 right?

[copper mist]

Yes

but why would that matter

[zinc needle]

I have never seen his gameplay, so I'd assume he can only heal half the hp of ur character?

[copper mist]

He heals a lot, his burst heals the on field character and his E heals his entire party

not to full but good amounts

anyway both Kokomi and Baizhu heal more than enough as long as you don't literally facetank every hit

Healers can be preferable (depending on your familiarity with the enemies) but not necessary anyway

[zinc needle]

hmmmm is he f2p when it comes to weapons?

[copper mist]

yes his best weapon is Prototype Amber

[zinc needle]

and what's better c1 baizhu w/o signature weap or c0 baizhu w signature weap?

[haughty lotus]

C0 with Amber

[copper mist]

His signature weapon is a joke

[haughty lotus]

Make sure you aren’t pulling just because of healing

[zinc needle]

hmmm ok ty

[copper mist]

yes

[zinc needle]

what do u mean

[copper mist]

Again healing is not necessary

[zinc needle]

oh alright

[haughty lotus]

It depends on what teams you are building, Baizhu is rather low priority

Kokomi is pretty high priority if you play Nilou or freeze

[copper mist]

I wouldn't go for C1 either like why would you, he already heals so much at C0 if you wanna invest in cons then do it for a damage dealer or just pull a new character, or both Baizhu and Kokomi

anyway only pull if you actually want the character is always the baseline

[gray oxide]

If you wanna invest some on Baizhu then id rec c1 more

The energy generation is nice

[zinc needle]

alright alright

[gray oxide]

His signature is his best btw

[zinc needle]

I don't know if I would go for kokomi or baizhu

[gray oxide]

But its basically just Prototype Amber pro max

[zinc needle]

I'm confused now

what is really better?

[haughty lotus]

Send your character list

[copper mist]

Yes his signature is his best but it has no use on anyone else (except maybe Kokomi but lol) and Prototype Amber is already so good idk why you would ever want a weapon that makes him heal just a bit more

like it's just a waste of primogems to heal 20% more or whatever

[gray oxide]

For Kokomi id rather use Proto Amber tbh

Id argue its a good signature weapon

[copper mist]

I would prefer that on both yeah

[zinc needle]

I just want a bloom team, but idk who I would I get since both of them can make a reaction to bloom

[gray oxide]

Just the purpose of the character that it is made for is not significant enough

Oh shit where my nitro

[haughty lotus]

Nilou bloom?

[zinc needle]

yes

[copper mist]

Kokomi is better in Nilou bloom

[haughty lotus]

Why is there so many parts of baizhus kit giving him damage bonus

[copper mist]

but if you don't have Nahida then Baizhu can work

[haughty lotus]

Yeah get kokomi

[gray oxide]

Imean if i were to choose between jade donut and proto Amber Baizhu id just go Jade donut anytime

[haughty lotus]

The question is why would you have jade donut tho

[gray oxide]

Amber is inferior at everything exept it gives extra healing multipliers which is ehh

[copper mist]

I wouldn't cuz I wouldn't have to live with the fact I wasted primos on baizhu sig

[gray oxide]

i kinda want Jade Donut tbh, but thats just me

[modern folio]

recommended energy recharge stats for xiangling and bennett??

[copper mist]

a lot

[gray oxide]

Jade Donut makes his energy pretty comfortable in solo dendro

[copper mist]

his energy is very manageable regardless

[gray oxide]

I kinda cringe at the solo element Baizhu teams coz

I either dont have burst, or cant have 50k HP

[fallen topaz]

How much ER and EM must Kazuha have?

[gray oxide]

Not like having 50k HP is that important but still

[copper mist]

mine has like 45k HP and 240% ER and I'm not struggling at all

[haughty lotus]

[haughty lotus]

Depends on your team https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U6R08k5qfW-AtT0SejiSSR2b-WUS2G1iaB1op7WSH_E/mobilebasic

[gray oxide]

It might not be in the solo dendro teams where you can only use 1 E

[copper mist]

True but what the hell are those

[gray oxide]

I can also pull C1 which is alot safer and honestly a better option

[copper mist]

oh like Cyno? right

[gray oxide]

But asthetic

[copper mist]

I don't play CYno xdd

@zinc needle do you have Nahida btw

[gray oxide]

Ah yez

[gray oxide]

AsThEtIc comes first

[reef comet]

200+ for bennett, he doesn't need anything other than er as substats so the higher, the better, 180-230 for xiangling, depends on team

[copper mist]

I mean I agree but idc about Baizhu's aesthetic

because he appears on my screen for like 2 seconds

[gray oxide]

imean true he doesnt even show his weap in his animations

[copper mist]

love how his cons are focused on making him FULLY afk btw

too funny

[gray oxide]

Also gotta love the c6

[copper mist]

yes

[gray oxide]

kinda well designed const ngl

The c6 synergises with c1 and c2

Also his c6 makes his dendro app stonks

[zinc needle]

baizhu is support right? does he buff or??

[polar chasm]

which artifact should i improve on to get more crit rate and dmg?

[elder bluff]

holy...

[haughty lotus]

His a4 buffs dendro reactions

[copper mist]

Wait did they lock #🎨statue-of-the-seven

[polar chasm]

thanks

[gray oxide]

Hes a healer, support, makeshift interruption resistance provider, single target dendro applier

[copper mist]

oh nvm I just

minimized the channel group LOL

[polar chasm]

what about feather

[zinc needle]

what is he good for? like aggravate team, bloom team?

[gray oxide]

As an off field dendro applier for dendro teams if you want the healing he offers

[polar chasm]

yeah fair enough, thanks 👍

[zinc needle]

oooo I see thanks

[gray oxide]

Offensively hes relatively to significantly subpar compared to Nahida but he also offers healing

Aggravate team is 1 yea

He can be the best option for a defensive dendro slot

[copper mist]

dang

[fallen topaz]

Should I farm Emblem for Raiden and Yelan and just box VV, for Kazuha and Venti, and Blizzard for Ayaka?

[copper mist]

If you start from 0 I'd say so

[gray oxide]

Sounds good, you can also just farm some other domains and strongbox all of those

[lyric cargo]

plume is alright since all 4 stats are useful

you're 5.1 ER over the emblem cap I guess

the circlet is kinda medium tbh, three crit rolls but it's the only useful substat

[reef comet]

they have r5 el but aight

[lyric cargo]

I thought that didn't change the 270% cap?

[reef comet]

r5 gives like 50 er

[lyric cargo]

oh, you mean it lowers cap, right
I somehow thought you meant they can get use out of > 300%

[fallen topaz]

If that’s the case, do I farm for the new artifacts for Fischl and possible new characters to be more efficient?

[gray oxide]

Yea id prob farm Golden Troupe for Fischl, esp if you look to play aggravate

[fallen topaz]

Thanks

[dusty cape]

[polar chasm]

wait so im 50 ER over the cap?

and i should improve circlet first?

ive lost track of whats stats i should be going for since ive been running this domain for god knows how long lol

[copper mist]

no

OH R5

lol

[polar chasm]

im confused

[dense schooner]

Anyone can tell me how u put the crafting bench on the teapot please?

[copper mist]

It might be a blueprint you need to buy from the teapot bird

[haughty lotus]

You need 250 ER to not go over the cap which is impossible with ER sands so don’t worry about it

[reef comet]

50er *

🧐

[dusty cape]

[polar chasm]

so.... i shouldnt be using ER sands?

[olive isle]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-star-rail-kafka-stelle-gif-11140046132115276477

[reef comet]

use er sands without getting any more er substats

[insert nerd emoji to myself before someone does it]

[dusty cape]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-gif-26382103

[sick quarry]

Does anyone have some tips for abyss? I can never get more than 33 star

[polar chasm]

aight so my feather kinda mid

[reef comet]

pretty much, ye, the only way to improve your build is to get 40cv on feather, goblet and circlet, with atk% substat yep 🤔

[dusty cape]

[polar chasm]

whats CV?

[dusty cape]

Crit value

[polar chasm]

so 40 crit rate and crit dmg? jesus

[dusty cape]

Crit rate x 2 + crit dmg on an artifact to find it

[polar chasm]

oh so like enhance crit rate twice and crit dmg once on the artifact

[dusty cape]

An example would be (9.3 x 2) + 13.2

[polar chasm]

so i should be aiming for these values kinda

[sick quarry]

When do you use atk% sands/electro goblet on raiden?

[haughty lotus]

Crit value is just a formula, aim for whatever stats you are happy with there’s no right answer

[reef comet]

atk% sands when the catch, people always use electro goblet on her tho

[sick quarry]

Wait really? I've always heard people say to use atk% goblet bc of her passive

Okay, thank you very much! 😊

[polar chasm]

oh shit i just got it lol

i get it now

[stone cedar]

I don’t have any hydro other than barb and candy, is Childe worth pulling for? Or should I wait for chief justice? Or should I wait for the archon!

[reef comet]

pull yelan

unless she's gone then i wouldn't know kekw

[stone cedar]

Is yelan really that goated

[cobalt meadow]

yes

[dusty cape]

yes.

[reef comet]

sidegrade with xingqiu at c0, at c6, arguably best dps in game

[stone cedar]

I don’t have enough to get him from the shop this month tho

[reef comet]

idk why im talking like this, it's not like people give a fuck about her c6 anyway🧐

[swift crown]

time to get enough

[swift crown]

👉👈 i'll listen to everything you have to say

[reef comet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140066667477606491.gif?size=48&name=CatKiss&quality=lossless

[stone cedar]

[reef comet]

but no, please don't

[swift crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1071839645773602879.gif?size=48&name=CATKISS&quality=lossless

[dusty cape]

[narrow folio]

[dusty cape]

hi ren

[rose chasm]

Bruh, what team can I do to 12 abyss?

Crab is hard for me

[lavish arch]

does bennett really become bad for non pyro chars if i get him to c6?

[rose chasm]

Bad only for Eula and Ayaka

[cobalt meadow]

you can do ayaka kazuha mona diona

[lavish arch]

only those 2? wat abt ganyu and shogun?

[cobalt meadow]

use mona and kazuha to take the crab shield

[rose chasm]

Not better Ayaka, Kazuha, Kokomi And Ganyu?

[faint linden]

Hey can I clear floor 11 with freeze first and hb second

[rose chasm]

I have Ganyu sup dd build

[cobalt meadow]

ganyu? diona is probably better for shield and energy. mona is probably better since she buffs damage

you can use hyperbloom on second half

or tighnari spread

[rose chasm]

I have these, more damage and more comfortable

Lm

[cobalt meadow]

use that then, just make sure to remove the crab shield b4 u use ayaka ult

[rose chasm]

I had this before Kokomi

[lyric cargo]

basically a pyro infusion could mess with chars that want to deal physical dmg with their normal and charge attacks, or have their own Infusions

but most chars with infusions they make now say they can't be overridden. and of the old ones, most don't use bennett on their teams anyways

[rose chasm]

Not better

[lyric cargo]

so it's really just physical

and so far all physical is just kinda bad

[lavish arch]

ohh ok! tysm!

[marble fern]

which one I should upgrade first?

[cobalt meadow]

e and q

on a second though, hold on

[reef comet]

his dmg come from CA tho

[cobalt meadow]

probably NA and e

[reef comet]

CA > E = Q

[marble fern]

Ocakes and ty

[soft nebula]

best team there (preffer nahida and yelan)

[narrow folio]

Eula, Ayaka, and physical dps

So Razor and Keqing ig

But nobody plays Razor and dendro exists for Keqing

[lavish arch]

oh ok! ty

[unkempt river]

Best way to complete this afaik is to plunge at the Lawachurl from the Jadechamber when doing Lan's Quest in Liyue"The Adventurers' Guild's Affairs".

[sick quarry]

why i cant beat this :c

[ancient warren]

hmm
keqing yelan nahida... diona for healing ig

diona still works because of how freeze/bloom works

[unkempt river]

Best tean I can build here?

Mona is C2 and Yelan is C1

Xl is C1 and Benny's C5

[ancient warren]

u have a lot of options 🤔

[reef comet]

Ig not right investment/skill issue/skill issue 2/skill issue 3

[ancient warren]

ur current team is fine i think, u can replace xingqiu with lynette if u want to build her as an anemo support

[unkempt river]

Would that be better though?

[ancient warren]

if u swirl pyro/hydro, yes

[copper mist]

If your Xiangling is really good yes but it would be better to replace Yelan honestly

[raw agate]

hmm kinda debating between these 2 flowers, one has 5% more crit rate, other has 79 EM

[copper mist]

Xinqiu >>

[unkempt river]

Whaattt, replace Yelan?

Yelan is C1 though

[haughty lotus]

Don’t replace yelan for Lynette

[reef comet]

Use optimizer, but I think more em is good

[ancient warren]

^

[haughty lotus]

Don’t replace either is what I meant

[reef comet]

I think they pretty much want a team for overworld c1 Yelan is truly the best

[haughty lotus]

Xiangling overworld 😔

[ancient warren]

oh if its open world, id remove xiangling

[dusty cape]

Yelan truly the best 🧐

[reef comet]

So true

[ancient warren]

scaramouche would like to talk

[haughty lotus]

You’re sus

[copper mist]

Oh it's for overworld

[haughty lotus]

C1 yelan is faster and does damage

[reef comet]

Meh, 2 E of Yelan >>>>>> Wanderer whole dmg

[ancient warren]

until she gets stuck on every object, also gaps, and skipping mountains, also his dmg is good enough for open world

[stone cedar]

I just got yelan, any tips?

[copper mist]

Dashes don't get stuck on objects anymore

[narrow folio]

Do you honestly think they're abyss ready?

Like at all

[umbral sedge]

Scaramid

[copper mist]

Idk maybe they're gonna try now

[ancient warren]

it still gets stuck sometimes

[haughty lotus]

4pc emblem, favge

[narrow folio]

Scaradouche

[ancient warren]

and can't cross gaps

[unkempt river]

F8 C1 haha, can't 9 star F8 thouvh

[umbral sedge]

[copper mist]

That's skill issue then I don't get stuck

[ancient warren]

dang, u dont get stuck on cliffs? das crazy
didn't know yelan can fly too

[copper mist]

Why are you dashing on a cliff

[haughty lotus]

I don’t go to liyue anymore

[reef comet]

Lol, midassmouche can't even climb stairs with E, bro gonna break his leg while levitating

[ancient warren]

he can tho, dont hit space, just move forward

[small blade]

You can just glide

[ancient warren]

sadly gliding is a just a bit slow

[reef comet]

that's slower than Yelan E

[ancient warren]

she cant climb up sharp angles on mountains with her skill

but because scara is unable to climb in his skill, but moving forward still pushes him forward, he just "slides" up a mountain (steep included)

[haughty lotus]

Kazuha >

[copper mist]

How is that faster than climbing

[ancient warren]

true story

[copper mist]

There's no way that's faster than climbing

[ancient warren]

it is tho

it also means u have more stamina upon reaching the top

[copper mist]

Which Yelan doesn't care about anyway

[ancient warren]

oh also he doesn't need to swim

[narrow folio]

Man this is a wild discussion

[reef comet]

As a wanderer and yelan haver, waypoint >>>>

[copper mist]

That is a big point in favor of scara

[ancient warren]

💀

ik yelan is also very good but people dont give scara enough credit 😔

[copper mist]

But the use is limited like oh boy you cross the river faster once every few days where you have to do that

[narrow folio]

Scaramid

[ancient warren]

his cd is lower than yelans

[haughty lotus]

As a wanderer and yelan haver, user whoever I’m too lazy to switch to wanderer and yelan >>>>>