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Yaoyao and fischl don't need time on field
they don't spend much time on field but they do spend some while using their abilities and swapping off
Yeah
I dunno how this is related though I said the time spent on field is similar for 4 TF and non 4pc TF
||Why does he look like that Abyss Herald?||
||hes from khaenriah, the nation where abyss heralds are from||
Well, it can't be similar since 4p user's don't do the N*5 CA, y'all said you just use E again, nah?
what??? when did that happen???
||he's 500 years old?||
Takes less CAs between Es
Btw how many CAs do y'all do? (4p users)
the cataclysm?
Non TF takes more CAs between Es
||yes!! keep playing they explain more. He shows up in several quests||
Yep
I dont really bother it either way, just do a mixture between NA and CA
||Oooo, interesting!||
Most of her dmg is from the E Q E N1C E E combo anyways
Same tbh, I just go with the flow most of the time
After that damage goes 📉
||heralds aren’t “from khanreiah” though they’re from the abyss according to current lore||
True but her CA deals tons of dmg too
||bruh, dainsleif is from khaenriah, he was once part of a knight order iirc. he was cursed with immortality after the cataclysm while everyone else were cursed to become hilichurls, abyss mages, etc.||
And her normal and charged AoE is garbage so i dont bother
Y'all don't do CAs after casting E again?
they arent?
How do I level up my tea pot cuz rn it's not looking great I'm still at level 4
Ehhh that combo is like half or more of her damage per rotation anyways
Why did it just tell me that I unlocked a Teleport Waypoint after talking to him?
Mmh, is it? I never saw it as garbage
hes secretly a waypoint 
And sometimes the Na and CA aoe is just bad you dont hit all the enemies
Well, won't deny that
So it might be less
so both do EQE. 4pc TF in total is four n1cs and an EE, non TF is five n1cs without the EE. the field time ends up similar
Lmaooo true, but usually you hit most of them, and then regroup with kazuha
How many widsiths would you all keep? Have 4 rn, thinking about keeping 2
(no 5* catalysts for me)
CA spam ungroups, so depends
I don't know how many N and CA they do before and after their 2nd E, so the time is similar, but not the same
||dain tells us in the chasm quest that hilichurls are khanreian, but in Caribert we learn the pure blood khanreians were cursed with immortality ||
Mmmh, but with the current abyss, there's lots of big enemies
I doubt they'll go far
there’s probably a domain lol
i understand now, just searched it up
I did mention earlier, 4pc TF combo is EQE n1c EE 3n1c
For the 2nd half 12-2 yes its just a boss, but for 12-1 tho, vishaps, and the rogue hilichurls, 12-3 those elite humans just zoom around either way
We do more time then
EQE n5c EE and spam n1c for a while (never counted how many times but probably similar)
We can just get the Keqing mastersheet
atk% goblet instead of pyro% or hp% because of the ER substat?
this is not an optimal rotation then since your buffs would just run out and you wouldn't be refreshing abilities on other characters
Wait, I didn't see the 12-1 and above floors yet, last abyss I got blocked at 35* and got lazy to actually 3* the 12-1
You would tho, it's just that we need more time to do dmg after our 2nd E
Because it takes more time to get it back, it's not a huge difference
Probably some seconds
And you could just re do the rotation after that
I already mentioned, without 4pc TF you just EQE 5N1C then swap out to refresh stuff and repeat
4p TF is around 6-9% better as far as the Keqingmains artifacts comparison goes
That's not what I do but maybe I'm just playing her wrong, dunno tbh
I like spamming CA
So, I do take some more time in my rotation to do NCAs
I dont know about Keqingmains dip in quality lately, but i trust they wont fuck up calcs of their main
Keqing's field time i aggravate do be relatively short
I might try Tf someday, I just love doing 2p tf to spam more
keqing will just e q e then switch out
There is one thing about
That's exactly what I don't do, I prefer using her CAs nore
Yep
Due to lack of stamina
But more CA Heheheheh
I just play her 2p to do more CAs
I just love doing keqing's CAs
https://streamable.com/wpzpyv you can ignore the initial part before the boss was revealed but this is what the rotation is like on 4pc tf, fairly short before swapping out again to refresh stuff
That's the main reason I'm not looking for a 4p, I actually like my keqing play style
Well then preference issues
Mind to share your characters build ? @jolly junco
Yeah, kinda
which one(s)?
All 4 of them if possible
i'll have to log in but sure
40k Es, impressive but not unexpected of your sir Lemon
To use on fischl and test a keqing 4p
Yeah, that was damn impressive
Anyways Keqing became an inferior driver the moment i got Yae
Dont plan on going back to Keqing anytime
Keqing is my main so I could never do such thing to her
I plan on using her forever, my one and true main
Btw is there a difference in keqing dmg (4p tf and 2p) in co op?
Also, random question
Any ideas on a fourth member for this team :
Wanderer c0/ faruzan c0 / zhongli
Besides bennett
You have Jade cutter?
DAMN THAT FISCHL
yes, I've had it since yae's first banner when it was with verity
MY FUCKING GOD
Ig I'll try to build 4p Thundering fury
Otherwise mid
damn, that goblet tho
Keqing c0 tho, damn
My little baby
Got it recently
I just need more cr in general
But damn, c6 keqing
How tf is it even possible, been playing since the dawn of times and I still have her at c1
C6 Keqing aswell?
I could do a better build with mistsplitter but it's staying on ayaka
I am officially blind
Nah, c1
Pain
he means mine
My ayaka using a damn amenoma because mistsplitter is for the queen 

R5 amenoma is actually great on ayaka tho, I was kinda surprised 
I mean I could run nahida with c6 sara instead of yaoyao and fischl for bigger keqing number

cries into f2p
Ironic, its better if there is Fischl to carry her dmg
dw though keqing's constellations are pretty shit as far as 5* cons go
not a huge diff from c0 to c6
Nah, I don't give a damn, I just wanna possible dmg boost
I just want my Queen at c6
It's just a silly dream 👍
That C6 is one of the most shit C6 for a dps 5 star ive ever seen
I don't want to have a fkng c2 mona or a c2 diluc

Or even a damn tighnari, MIHOYO JUST DROP THE DAMN KEQING CONS
Lool
yeah it is dogshit

well i mean it's some extra dmg% but for a c6 5* con it sucks
here's hoping all I ever get when losing 50/50s are Tighnari cons 
Whats the most shit one? Diluc's?
are we including off-field damage dealers too?
I think its Klee but i dont remember clearly
Yea just dpses
Klee is quite stronk c6, nah?
look at albedo's c6
Didnt specified on field or off
say no more
I forgot he have any constellations after c2 ngl
Hell yeah
5 thundering pieces, all Hp% and defense
his c6 is pretty cracked if you ever get it
Gotta love the strongbox
His const are so shit
like c6 tighnari is disgustingly good in speedruns
actually just nukes bosses in seconds
He is made a quickswap frontloading dps, and it makes his frontloading faster and stronger

Y'all believe?
Funny how C6 Alhaitham would be better in extended fights but his wind up time is so long plus the enemies are never that tanky so Tighnari gets better times anyways
yeah, sadly unlikely to hit the same 1/7 chance 5 more times :[
I did manage to get c1 (both times I lost 50/50 on the way to c2 Nahida)
I also got Tighnari c1
pray for EM on the +4
His consts are actually pretty solid ngl
Weird way to spell HP
Acceptable I guess?
(flower)
I mean for now yeah since getting 4pc TF would be a good upgrade
nothing gives flat hp other than flowers
Does tf works well on fischl? I already have a better piece for keqing
only rly 2pc on fischl
Ah, I already have a better tf on keqing as a flower lmfao
the one you showed earlier was worse tho
It seems like a Vermillion level upgrade on agg Keqing compared to 2p TF 2p atk ngl, altho the extra utilities make up for it i suppose
Not just a straight up dps increase
Like this is only 4 good rolls
26cd?
True
I will get it to 20 first tho
Imagine if it rolls cr or dmg
its not even just about keqing's personal damage tho, more aggravates means more fischl damage too
True
Also less stamina draining on CAs

Man, feels bad
Cr circlet with cr cd
All on defense
Used it to upgrade another nice piece and it had the same destiny, to become shitty
Btw fischl prefere 2p instead of a 4p?
depends what 4pc exactly
Tf
then 2pc mix is better yeah
I'll probably go 2p anyway, she has shitty 4p Eosf rn
Anything will be better
Don't criticise my Eosf fischl
I was living in that fkng domain
in teams where you can maintain good electro aura uptime fischl's best set tends to be 4 thundersoothers
but like, 2pc mix is still good

Just why.
I USED EVERY ARTIFICT I HAD
I don't have a single one anymore
And still no good pieces
hmm, if your fischl build is not good then farming the domain directly isn't a bad idea tbh
My fischl build is inexistent
then yeah just farming the tf domain itself is reasonable
you're gonna use yaoyao right? with kaz
can someone tell me the best way to grind primogems
The thing is, I gotta go back to blizzard domain soon
you will have good electro aura uptime so fischl could use 4pc thundersoothers well
Yeah
you can do an investigation run if you want some more. Or wait for resin to refill :[
Don't even dare to ask me to use TS fischl
Investigation run?
I mean you don't need to do anything special the enemies just need to have an electro aura 
I farm the route from this article (two youtube videos at the bottom) every day.
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/11884766
first video is 99 investigation spots, second is 28.
They stop spawning after you farm 100, but the last 28 are all in one location so you can get a bit past the cap
Are they 5* artifacts?
Hating on sth is 1 way to build character yknow
Cant do anything abt it
no, they're 1-star and 2-star
only used as exp or to trash and convert to mora
by "used" I thought you meant you're out of fodder
Nah, Im out of 5* artifacts xd
How much does bloom dmg scale off character lv
NSFW means "not safe for work". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_safe_for_work
Nsfw refers to things that you are not supposed to post "normally", something to do with
i knew it
And I'm confused with the scavenger hunt
Self harm, pictures with people without clothes, gore
Heyioo
Can u please tell me
Ty
28cd 3.9cr 4.7 atk on that tf flower
Sir can u tell me what scavenger event
So I do need to lv my characters to 90
Wdym by the scavenger event,can i have some context?
formula + numbers are here, if you're interested:
https://keqingmains.com/misc/dendro/#Bloom-2
yeah, with emphasis on the hydro chars since they'll trigger it more than the dendro chars
is this for nilou bloom?
Ye
nilou herself also wants lvl 90 because her passive scales with hp
and any hp% stats you build will increase with her base hp when you level her
If u go to scavenger hunt
U will find it
It on the server event
Ye it’s just I was wondering if me lving Collei to 90 is worth it
she won't trigger that many blooms I think, and you might want to replace her with Yaoyao
so might be better to hold off on leveling her
She has insane dendro application with her ult and I have her c2
Idk about her actually triggering the blooms but it’s just a “might as well” moment
most Nilou Bloom teams are Nahida Yaoyao Nilou + on-field hydro unit
usually Ayato or Kokomi
Her burst isnt actually triggering that many reactions
The fastest clearing I’ve seen online are nilou, kokomi, Collei and nahida
Due to her Q having special ICD, no matter how many times her Q ticks, it only applies dendro once per 2.5s
Ignoring her consts ofc
Lemon would be a good person to ask about Nilou teams, if you want another opinion on that
Nilou Mains Bloom Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13LNlnxmSk4pZw-1O-4f2d8QfHgLVmPxrtN-iN774SGc
Yep but Collei goes a bit more than her Q
Ye I’ve been using that
yes. get 200 at least
em sands
I will lose too much atk% + mine is great rn
em more important than atk
I'll probably keep farming for her Ig
Yeah but the substats are too good to lose them
It's offpiece so if I get a great Em sand I don't mind swapping
em sword? kinda oof tho
Already using a cd sword (bis mistsplitter)
oh yea def keep that
you don't need at least 200 EM or an EM sands for aggravate keqing, but it is a good stat
Fuck me from the past, stupid
Atk sands can be better even
F
Like this for now
And fischl, well
She definitely needs bunch of Cr, she has like 30cr/180cd
#📅tavern-events this??
I will need to farm better pieces for her
Yeah
Wait wrong link #🔍scavenger-hunt 
What's the concern..
i see why you want to keep your sands.
I mean what u have to do
I'm so confused
About it
Yeah, the cr is insane
In part 1, you'll just have to put the answer from the multiple choice shown.
In part 2, go to the game and find the exact locations. When you find it, screenshot it
Then submit to #📨contact-qixing and follow the directions mentioned
i would love that on my 
What multiple choice
Nahh, my ayaka is TRASH rn tho, wait
It's worth it tho, I don't give a damn
Ayaka using Amenoma cuz Kequeen owns that mistsplitter and artifact
Lmaoooo
still mid
Stfu, that's like peak
71.6/239 is a dream for my wanderer
Lmfao
Those artifacts are the leftovers from my hutao
scarapeak
Your hutao was kinda cracked
is this a puzzle?
I forgor
Imma get c1 and then never play any other character again
Try to break the black n yellow stone and go near the pillar
LMAOOOOO that's wild tho
I do the same with keqing, can't judge you
No matter who I get, I still do most things with keqing
my ayaya
i tried in every way
Holy sht, that's amazing
Location? I'll check on my map
If it's not there, it was a puzzle 
That's the only info I can provide
Mine will be done soon I just need a feather 
its near chasm
my ayaka
im not a whale
I don't even get blizzard anymore, it's only that other one
No grass only artifact
i double crown
triple only for few ppl
If ya break the black and yellow thingy, it just destroys the pillers around it for me
same
mid plume
looks like a hu tao goblet
i want her to be 🔛🔝
ik, too bad ion want hutao
I keep getting ht goblets as well (though not quite as good)
How r the others pilars to you? Do they have something inside of them?
yes
they have a star
rip, also miya more peak
You probably already did them then
oh ok
every single roll into er. idk luck or cursed
Don't take my word as granted, I just remember doing everything in here so, I doubt I'd miss a puzzle like that
I'm using the gilded one now. The other one was before that
First one (74/173) seems better tbh
But 84/147 is also peak, you'll be extremely consistent
yeah, better crit ratio though slightly less ER
Yeah
my xl is so cursed. i cant ever find a cdmg circ
staff. it has 44crate
Ah
these are the three crit ratios I looked at
second one is with emblem goblet, but it only has 6.5% ER
Razor gaming's spear?
Oh
Wait, how do we do that?
Multiply cr and cd
oh, it's cr circlet
I couldn't spot where all that cr was coming from 😄
the circ rolled too well, i cant roll another cdmg circ to replace it
Oh
LMFAO NICE ART
now i just prayge for 88cdmg spear in future
And holy sht, nice ratio
expected average damage is basically: atk * (1 + dmg%) * (1 + cr * cd)
(1 + cr * cd) is your crit multiplier, I ignored the "1 +" since I just wanted to know which was highest
Ohh I see
The highest = the best (?)
higher crit multiplier is better, yeah
no it is just maf
unless you're willing to reset and start over if you don't crit
basically only possible if most damage comes from a single hit
Do people rly do that?
Mmmh, but in abyss it can be weird
it's mostly people trying to get high damage number on their screenshots
hutao too sometimes
(IMO it's disingenuous to take screenshots like that unless you mention you're crit fishing)
Final say even without Benny to support Xl?
Mmmmmmh
I mean, YEAH but it's still impressive so, I wouldn't mind not to know that
yeah, if they mention it then it's fine
Like 100% crit rate
on Kokomi 

Should I build a hyperbloom team with collei?
Bals
Why not haha
🐳
No good offield hydro application, no good electro triggers
Tao
Sus
@haughty lotus 😳 wanna watch some abyss runs
mona? beidou?
Could I watch as well?
Beidou isn’t a good hyperbloom trigger
Beidou isn’t a good trigger, Mona doesn’t provide fast off-field hydro application
Mona is slow aoe hydro application which is better for freeze, not hyperbloom
So which team should I go with
Sure, I can ping you when I do it later
I recommend dendro mc bc the aoe circle is much bigger than collies, although collei does aoe dmg her circle is small and she’s only really good if you have crowd control characters like venti or kazuha
Aight to both of ya
Could do a freeze team, kaeya rosaria Mona Layla, kinda cope tho so idk
balls :ballsletsgo:
Would my best hu tao team rly just be hu tao, xq, pyro applicator and kazu/sucrose since I don’t have yelan or zhongli?
Elegy amber surely
I feel like a criminal having hardly any characters built for a near ar 60 since all my resin has gone to garb artifacts
Ye I use her with favonius
My hu tao team comp rly lacking damage tho which annoys me
F
Can u send her build?
I use this cus can’t get a good 4pc crimson or 4pc shim
So my damage does fall off quite a good chunk for not having a 4pc set
Could do hutao xingqiu Mona sucrose but I’m not 100% sure about that team
I have done that team but diona instead of sucrose a lot
I Feel like kazuha is better tho than sucrose
But I hate diona’s Q
Like sucrose is good off of em but kazuha is good crowd control for hu Tao
I think instead of another pyro you should add another hydro
I don’t have yelan
Bc another pyro might take hu Taos vaporize reactions
Other than yelan like a healer
The 2nd pyro is needed for swirls, it wouldn’t steal Hutao vapes
Not necessarily a good chunk,
4 pc cw is only ~6% better than 2 pc cw 2 pc em
Or even someone like Candace
Hutao doesn’t need a healer
Ohhhhhh
Tell me ur joking
a
Ye but I just hate how I have spent so much goddamn resin on that domain, prob the one I used the most on and can’t get a good 4 set
Hu tao mains are scary

Monthly reset?
at 13 wishes
It mean
ohh wait theres that
<—— why are there these
Lol, go check ur paimon shop
but i dont ahve any stuff
to bargain
F
Lemme just build pity to get my stardust to buy my 5 wishes 
but im pulling soon maybe
Something like Hu Tao Xingqiu Sucrose Thoma/Amber Elegy is going to be as good as it gets for her personal damage yea
Def works
This is legit me

Aaaa the shops reset today right 🚪🏃
Yuhh
Hu Tao doesnt necessarily need a shielder either way
I just don’t do much damage with hu tao compared to hu tao + yelan comps 
Someone tell me how to build heizou taser team
For Yelan shes solid but compared to VV vape its nott that different
Or maybe my supports just suck
i havet used one after i got dehya
I don’t think they do tho
How do u know when u dont have Yelan tho 
I wutched yutube
Xq/Yelan Fischl/Beidou
Heizou fischl xingqiu beidou, heizou 4p vv
the VV vape teams will do more
But, double hydro is braindead
Do they
They do
Should I do beidou or Shinobu for heals also I’m not sure how to build any of them artifact wise (and weapons)
Getting VV and Sucrose's buff and ttds is gonna be a pretty huge package
For Hu Tao's personal dmg
Do I need to get ER for sucrose
Not really, her burst isnt that important there
So I just tap her E and bam
Nah it do require some specific setup to swirl pyro
Isn’t it just xingqiu apply hydro, amber Q, swirl dat pyro
who should I build first 
For Amber yea, but for Thoma it gets a bit more specific
Mika
oke thanks
Also you really wanna do stuff in that order
While double hydro care less about the order of your skill casts
NOOO IT WAS A JOKE
time to use my books in mika 
Also Amber is only really better than Thoma if you are in possession of Elegy
oh okai 
And instructor
Idk if it’s still a huge issue but I’ve just heard people in the past say thoma steals vapes
Or is it
Yeah
Ye I use instructor on amber
Prob not with xinqiu
I heard that as well but I also see people saying nah it's fine
Thoma can use instructor if you decide to not skill issue
Huh how can you NA on thoma without also activating XQ swords
But if you know it works I won't question it
Its kinda just the same as how Yelan works with Xiao but not XQ
Ohh
Thoma Q comes out way faster
So you can cancel NA before XQ Q come out but Thoma Q still proc
Imean by the ticks
It do be alot more specific than just Amber tho
That's so much effort doe
But if one is comitted
I mean yeah but that's all you do vs once every rot
Can't get into the timing idk
Id switch to Succ, press NA and E right after that
Cancels right into her E
Or maybe Thoma NA and cancel it with a swap to Succ
Might aswell get Hu Tao sometimes in the future
If i can clear abyss using my friends midass builds and Hu Tao XQ Yelan Xiangling i sure as hell can do it but vv vape
Hu Tao
team
Every pyro dps moment:
Highest personal damage ceiling? Grab some vapes
To this day i am still not convinced that Hu Tao have a dedicated set 
But i am also not convinced that she should get 1 either
I want reverse melt set
Kind of insane how reverse melt has been treated by the game so far
Cryo seems freeze or bust
Ganyu omegalol
Imean nahhh Emblem is pretty good
Ganyu has Wanderer's yeah
We have a set dedicated to the current reverse melt dpses, but we dont have a dedicated reverse melt dps
Ganyu ditch anything but her CA for rev melt

The 4 star quickswap rev melt dpses arent made that way
Yeah true Ig
Should I put beidou on guilded for heizou
Use Emblem on Beidou, and VV on Heizou
I remember you were using a taser team
And what abt fischl and xq
what characters can use amos bow (except ganyu) i just got it and dunno who to give it to
Fischl use either 2p 2p electro atk or 4p thundersoother(kind of a luxury, dont recommend farming) XQ use the same as Beidou
amber i g
Which bow units do u use?
Gotchuu ty guys
Should I use Eula’s weapon for beidou (I got it by accident pls say yes)
No
is units characters 😭😭
Yea
Yes
Favge 
the rest are not built
So what should I use for beidou
Neither wants amos
what 4 stars can use it
luxurious sea lord, serpent spine or just prototype archaic
Serpent's spine, joel 🐟
The inazuma craftable is decent no?
…. Anything other than those 😭
Yeah
Aimshot dps units, fischl can also use it but idk what her ranking for Amos is
ok she can have the pretty weapon
i dont even have fischl and ive been playing for 2 years 
you can craft prototyoe archaic.
i g fav greatsword can work too
how would one build this team 
(Kazuha is on 4pc VV fully built)
theres always amber
amber main dps lets go
Collei on paradise 4 pc with stringless imo
Collei deepwood, kuki 2p Em 2p Em/4p gilded/4p paradise, barb can just use whatever
Barbara on ohc if you are dps
kuki 4 glided
collei 4 deepwood
barb doesnt really matter.
Alr thanks guys :]
🤨🤨🤨🤨
She works well for me like that or on deep wood
Plus it’s a hyperbloom team
Paradise useless for collei
yea exactly. collei is not reactin, kuki is
Ohhhhhh that makes more sense
We have Xiangling Paradise now Lost Paradise when

Anyways good night
I should fix my sleeping habits
Everybody gangsta 'til the collei starts reactin' 
tbh i wasnt even going for a team that worked, i just noticed they make circles with their skills so I put them together 😋
Circle impact
real, it makes my brain happy
omg satisfying photo
it’s okay 💔 i got pretty good graphics
s p a c e
What team would be better in a damage showcase? Raiden/Kazuha/Bennett/Sara, or Raiden/Mona/Bennett/Sara? (Sara C6, Kazuha VV)
i think nobless mona with thrilling tales will be better
first team
How so?
sara c6 op. cdmg stronk
kazuha gives elemental dmg bonus
But both teams have C6 Sara
oh derp.

SPOILER!!! ||Why is Aether white? Is it because he's without element?||
thats the default traveller before they get elemental powers from the so7
you start off as white when you wake up at the beach too
ah
Wish i took a different team so i could clear chamber 1 with hutao too
I missed the first run by 2 seconds
After that the metachurl just wouldn't group
oh right abyss reset 😔
😔
But it moves towards you? 
Will 180 er suffice for xiangling?
His second jump he teleports on the opposite side of the map
what team?
that looks fine for international (let me check kqm)
Mostly 2 teams
Rational
Ayato vape
hmm, usually I run to one side after the second wave of enemies to group the Hydro hilichurls, then he jumps on you which you can dodge, and follows you into the Hydro hilichurls, at which point you can kinda just cleave them all
Ye i could do it in a couple more tries.... I just didn't wanna stay in that chamber longer
might be a bit low for ayato vape
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I don’t get the joke? Yeah I know Inazuma has a different style of sword because of their culture but apparently it’s funny that it’s different?
The joke is probably that the swords will be baguettes
too little for rational according to the ERC Lemon did for me
#📌gimshim-help message
There was also “Katana Impact 😂”
then again... we don't have a fish sword nor a fish catalyst yet
theres a fish bow
just imagine... goldfish bowl catalyst 
The assumptions I did were pretty safe ones but yeah it varies
So about 200 is ok?
i still nothing on weapon banner zzzzzzz
sac sword XQ where 
like Xiangling's skill missing half the time and Raiden's E generating less energy than average
he's solo hydro, so fav is preferred afaik
Why would you use Sac in Rational?
does he not 
no
afaik it depends on whether you want extra hydro particles or extra clear particles
hydro would be to battery Yelan / etc
How do I go to the shouki no kami boss
I already did the story quest and fought the boss but it won't let me go there
did you finish the story?/ start his story quest
I did
did you finish the 2nd story quest?
For Raiden teams it should be. For Ayato teams you may need more depending on the exact team and weapon options
afaik it's fine as long as you don't star the 2nd story quest, otherwise you have to finish that first
I play with 180.. you just gotta funnel xiangling better
raiden bossfight unlocks with the 2nd story quest tho
This is where I'm at
go to story quests
this is scara tho, right?? am i trippin
running less ER so you can fit more offensive stats is a dps loss if the funneling lengthens your rotations I assume though?
oh shit, they look so similar kek
try teleporting away then see if its there, or logging in and out again
you... should be able to fight scara??? 
Which domain is it on the map? I don't even know which one it is
is it in your f1 menu?
its under sumeru city
180 is fine with raiden.... Without raiden it gets scuffed
if scara boss fight
sumeru city... then go a bit to the right on the map
if memory serves correctly
I got it thanks everyone
anyone up for testing stream quality for me? im gonna stream abyss runs later and idk if i should play on phone or tablet
What is the ayato vape team btw, in terms of party members
I normally use ayato xiangling Bennett kazuha
what're the weapon options?
I have 0 fav so it is as follows
Xiangling deathmatch
Xq sac
Bennett alley flash
Ayato the black sword
check the build guide pinned here
is yoimiya c0 good carry for abyss?
so what's kazuha on?
She's eh
The sting
god im tryna my best to make my yoimiya atleast match up to my other dps chars she jsut cant lmao
It's pretty rough on Xiangling's ER without Kitain then
Xiangling needs like ~160% ER with r5 kitain there
With catch it's well over 200%
You could try her on the second side.. she wouldn't be completely useless
(or deathmatch as it doesn't provide energy from the passive)
its just hard to get proper rotations on her since her skill duration is too short
Her previous build she was on 213 er which she was totally fine
We're talking about my wacky ayato vape team
The first chamber is probably impossible without strong supports
With r5 Kitain?
let's see
It's only a 1E per Q rotation on XL in Rational so it loses some value compared to Ayato vape
about 160% ER
(r5 kitain)
should still be a bit better
I'm only getting 200-210% ER if I assume Gouba doesn't miss
at all
should i keep this party setup or switch someone for diluc if so who?
ideally you'd get bennett > barbara
YEA BUT I DONT HAVE BENNETT 😭
For now switch xiangling to diluc
yeah, you'll have to wait for him to be on the shop
or randomly get him from a banner
xl needs a lot of ER, which bennett helps with
ferrous, bloodtainted or skyrider for diluc? or favonious. i dont have a lot of weapons atm
I guess Diluc needs less? Idk, I don't have / use him
when in doubt, fav
but I'll check genshinbuilds to see what they list
Prototype Archaic would be better than any of those (you can craft it)
I meant becuse it'll help other chars, and skyrider is very cope
uhhh i'll try to craft it
I mean of the claymore characters where fav is good, you have Dori who is bad, Sayu who is mediocre and they don't have, Kaveh who is pretty decent but they also don't have, support Dehya who is alright in some teams but they also don't have
I should've probably stopped here tbh
Wait spine is higher than wolf’s gravestone for Diluc?
spine's got a *, so I guess we should check notes
Beacon needs to be on this list somewhere
yeah, they rarely add new weapons it seems
beidou also doesn't have beacon listed, last I checked
That's only if you can maintain stacks which in practice could be difficult considering Diluc's best teams don't typically have a shielder on them
If you can maintain stacks then SS is really strong on Diluc
whats the best abyss team ?
There isn't a good answer to that, Abyss changes frequently making some teams better or worse and certain constellations/weapons/etc can make some characters stronger relative to others
If you want help then send a picture of your characters so people can see who you have
^
i got everyone
just dont know who I should build
who do you have built already? We can point out chars that would give you teams around them
I used this
Nilou bloom is good first half afaik
is ganyu melt good for second half?
gl
thx
Eh
I wouldn't, if you need to ask for teams to 9* fl12 you're probably gonna struggle with ganyu melt 2nd half

idk which chamber I should use her on and what my other team should b
electro is useful 2nd half for the 2nd boss, I'd just go kaz, ganyu, kokomi, shenhe first half - second half alhaitham, kuki, nahida, yae
is there a way to buy crystal chunks
A limited amount, and it's not really worth it for the Mora it costs
I suggest setting some expeditions to chunks and also doing some mining if needed
you can use the interactive map pinned here to find the locations of crystal chunks and you can speak to the blacksmith daily for some extra spawns
you can search up a chasm farming route
ore deposits in the chasm (undergrund mines) drop more ore
long term you won't need to farm them
Expedition.
i only have liyue and monstadt avialable
theres plenty of ore spots in liyue and mond
with expedition? or what the adventure guild thing is called
you can try asking in #👥gimshim-coop if someone is doing a chasm ore route and would take you along
the ores drop for both players
try Yaoyao over Yelan for additional healing?
not just expepdition, just exploring overworkld
what im asking is if i can get it through the expedition thing idk
is i t the mountain?
not sure what you man, just tap arround on the expeditions page until you find the ore one
@tawny vigil I second this
you'll need to make sure kok is built for EM though
ideally 4 instructor yaoyao with hp/hp/healing or crit (idt you need fav in this team tho actually it'll help yelan)
none of the places on my expedition has it
abyss gave me cancer
real
did you 36-star?
first chamber took at couple attempts, I needed 27 battles total this time
27 ain't bad
learning how to do the abyss for the first time is actual cancer
pretty sure 5-2021 was a new abyss 💀
this close to jumping off a cliff
69k damage taken --> 467k LOL
Balls and balls’ brother main??
before I got ayaka 
balls??
dark times indeed
I used to run skuffed diluc team LOL
Same 💪
it was some shit like
diluc/benny/xq/balls
I think sucrose was stuck in my ganyu team
fianlly 3 star f1
My oldest abyss record shows diluc xingqiu Bennett Kazuha lol
I think I just picked random characters and it worked 💀
I don't think I have any older screenshots
i can't believe there's a 1 year delete period on these

Is that you
yes
I'm pretty sure this was electro lector hell 💀
chamber 2 3 star, only one try thank god


I think I was using melt ganyu for this side
ganyu taunt attracts the lectors so I don't have to worry about dodging their balls
Trying abyss with wanderer is so pain 😔
Hot
ganyu
f12 sucks
12-1 sucks
never again
no venti sucks 
😳
🤨
i wonder if my xhanber 9 reuslts auupear on hoyo lab

not yet dedge
Time to wait

If you’re going to put venti and Kazuha in the same team at least do tf Kazuha smh
tf benny when 
true i should do paleflame kaz

I should use farming a layla set as an excuse to go back to pale flame 
dongli set pensive
🤨
wat
Tenassity zhonglis set smh
what if i need both bbg
170 er is probably enough for layla right? she gets so many fav procs at r5 anyways
😳
In a team with kokomi nahida raiden+ 2nd dendro/hydro is it best to have ttds or sacr fragments on kokomi?
what kinda team you looking for?
Prototype Amber. And you should be using a second hydro, a second dendro wouldn’t be great
Hyperbloom, kokomi raiden nahida and most likely xingqiu
amber then
yeah as memes said just use proto amber
no need to build em on kok
since atk wont help whatever
Why proto amber over the others?
I killed an unusual hilichurl near windrise some months ago. But after using an interactive map i cannot seem to find more. i have tried every location they are supposed to appear at. Are they just very rare? how can i find the unusual hilichurl?
support/ extra healing / energy
3 then it goes on cooldown for 12 hours iirc
just check all the spots
She doesn’t trigger blooms so sac frags doesn’t do anything, and no one benefits much from the ATK buff
In a hyperbloom team the only character that needs a lot of em is the electro trigger
I have done that.. There's nothing
well you're missing a spot then
Okk ty
hi
Kok hyperbloom :ballshmm:
dancing mona hmnn
Imagine having mona
oh make sure to build em/dendro/crit on nahida
your raiden should be at least 900 em but 1k should be very possible (especially with 4 guilded)
imaging mona
H
i
So i have time haha
i
good burgeon trigger when
dehya v2 when 
one that doesnt need er kekw
Thomas with kitten spear 😔
imagine if dehya was an acutal good burgeon trigger
i feel that
real
Imagine if dehya was a character
I literally can't play my hyperbloom team because of it LOL
fr imagine 😔
i get cons on everyone but benny
EM raiden helped get my first 36*
I have like c4 kuki i think. But i still want raiden
Discord mod spear 
miau
It’s not like Kuki c2 is a make or break 💀
but the uptime
bro half the uptime you're not even hyperblooming
aint no way I'm running EM xingqiu for decent blooms
It’s like 3 seconds 
the weak should fear the strong
me and who
3 seconds where you lose out on dps
should i run yanfei with r5 emerald orb (will be with xingqiu) or twin nepherite r3. dont have any 4 stars
😳 me
😳
Still a piss easy abyss clear lol
yea fair

maybe it's because I'm playing hyperfridge 

Neither are worth levelling in the long term
sac ganyu>>>>>>>>>>
:balls: hyperfridge
maybe I should try rosaria hyperfridge
alright i should stick with a 1 star weapon yea
well you can levels some for now then feed it into a better weapon
i forgot what those do
what AR are you?
33
you can push it to like lvl 40-50 and just use it for now
Craft like mappa mare or smth
Don’t you get a free catalyst one at some point
not yet
Or was that something else 🧐
you should have at least 2 unlocked with stormterror and andrius I think
only if you come back after not playing for like 2 weeks
Oh yea
but HAVE you been? you'll want those weapon prototypes
My friend told me about that one

yeah i guess i have to do them


