#📌gimshim-help
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best non 5* option
whats a better team childe international or raiden national
Childe
It depends
raiden national is higher single target damage and considerably easier to play
childe international has great frontloaded damage and AoE but is more complicated to play and has less sustained damage
both sucks but for now which one is better (using heizou as holder, wanderer has extra 19.2 CR)
Left picture
is it because of the substats or set
also for echoes the feather is 12 cuz ran out of fodder
Oh lmao I didn't even notice the set, sorry but I have no clue how good Echoes is
This is artifact optimizer time
Wait all your artifacts are not maxed

yes
im severely lacking in mora and exp books so now i have to pour every resin into them
Well I'd wait to ask until they are maxed tbh
all the artifact fodder i have now are from mirage exploration
Maybe some of them get better rolls than the others
It's basically useless atp to judge
okay
funny how i got kazuha a whole patch ago and his artifacts arent maxed either
Painge
only maxed xiao diluc kaveh raiden artis
With good ping but it's not any better than 2p 2p, might as well just farm for desert pavilion :sip:
benny all 16 yaoyao all 16 
so basically just judge by substats
2 atk + 2atk is worse than both of my builds right
Yeah
unless the subs are better by a significant amount
but same subs yes it's strictly worse
either use 4p desert or 4p shime tbh 🧐
i see no reason to run 2p 2p or 4p echoes since it's just not good
True but judging by their pfp they also play Xiao so they lived in Xiao domain for a while lmao
indeed
but i want to somehow get him circlet with cd substat and not burst every two rotations so ig i’m gonna live in this domain for some more time
decent flower, good feather, decent sands, kinda bad goblet, negatively bad circlet
are you talking to me if so im sorry ive been in this domain for months and i havent gotten a crit rate circlet with crit dmg ON ANY OF THE SETS
and i have uses for both sets one for xiao one for wanderer
also the goblet i cannot for the life of me get double crit anemo
i have THREE. DOUBLE CRIT GEO GOBLETS
GEO IS THE ONLY ELEMENT I DONT USE
I haven't gotten a good sands or ciclet in my time in that domain
and I basically moved on
I should return to get an echoes set for my Yoimiya though
and to finish Xiao build
I got one insane feather in that domain, that's about it
too whele can we ban
somehow my most nicely built character is kaveh cuz my gilded rolls went insane and haitham refused to come home so i just put the pieces on kaveh
why main haitham when you can main kaveh 
also this killed me little bit inside
but i did fodder an HP circlet originally for layla but rolled 26% def at lvl 16
it was double crit
i just raged and threw the thing away

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HAND THE PIECES OVER 
unmad when
imagine if i one day 36*
maybe when i get alhaitham which will be more than half a year later
i farmed emblem
pretty good, but that funny sands tho 🧐
do you believe in a person who mains like 5 ppl 
same goes to feather
damn 🧐
i just pull who i like but apparently some of them are also meta so ig i do have a chance
raiden kazuha maybe alhaitham but i lost him to dehya
i have no nahida or zhongli

these are the characters i have avalable can u guys reccomend me a team?
2 teams btw
U can do
Hutao-xingqiu-kazuha-benett
Raiden-xingqiu-xiangling-benett
i need 2 team for abyss
Oh abyss, u should have said so
wait lol
childe international, raiden hypercarry (but c0 raiden and c3 prob unbuilt sara + same 2 chars as childe team so i wouldnt reccommend) wanderer faruzan diona/layla xingqiu
not sure about hu tao cuz your highest levelled up shielder is diona and she heals
btw non of those characters are built well, its my friend's account and like im trynna just play cuz i like those characters
kinda sad bro only have xingqiu as hydro option 😔
ima try n get yelan
i was thinking, childe international and nahida hyperbloom
but that just benches so many great characters
and i like raiden
raiden hyperbloom should be fine
isnt kuki better?
well childe hu tao raiden and wanderer are all dps (maybe raiden can somehow be sub dps) so if two teams you would have to bench two of them
raiden is the best hyperbloom trigger
but usually kuki carries the healer role
iirc theyre almost the same but raiden can be used in other teams so most ppl use kuki
yep
i put fopl on my hb raiden 
flop
pl is better than gilded
Yeah it's marginally better
but gilded is more resin efficient
they have wanderer anyways if theyre willing to farm dpc for him
Yes but not if you also wanna farm for Scara which they are so that makes sense
once i get yelan im gonna use kuki for hyperbloom and bench childe and play raiden national
noooo
you can play double hydro hu tao
i could, but than the other teams would be looking pretty dry
ew, can we ban

id rather just do raiden national and like hyperbloom
so yelan praige
like i barely have any characters on my account and i can do f 12 so like this account should be able to do it
based
Xinqiu: 
ion know who that is, i only know xingqiu
can anyone please make me a tighnari team with these character?
I got lost prayers of sacred winds and uh... is it good for wanderer? I was gonna pull for his weapon but i built pity and got this instead lol
lost prayer can somehow be better than bell for wanderer
Ty for easing the pain haha
I mean, who knows if you have c6 wanderer then bell is just simply better because you want NA rather than CA 🧐
how was this rotation (was testing yoimiya again)
tighnari/fischl/dendro mc or collei/flex
Tighnari Fischl Keqing Yaoyao
Tn and kq clash in terms of field time, but I feel it's still better than dmc/collei who have little damage
maybe you just use kq as a burst bot. Lisa might be better, though she's lvl20
yaoyao adds healing and might hold deepwood so Tn can run Wanderer's Troupe. Or instructor / tenacity / etc
how much EM/Crit rate/crit dmg for off-field nahida? I'm using her with sacrificial fragment and deepwood set
doubt, kokomi or zhongli? i have a vape team with xiangling and benny and a freeze team with ayaka and rossaria.... i dont have but i wanna create, ayato is my only hydro(i dont have xingqiu) so should i pull for kokomi this patch?and is kokomi's heals as good as zhongli's shields. cause idk if i need a healer if im shielded
the usual 60/120 300-600 em
kokomi gonna make your ayaka team better, and if you're using ayato in ayaka team then getting kokomi will free up ayato and you can put him into other team
what team is she on?
if another team member has 1k em, you can just focus on personal dmg. dendro dmg%, crit, EM are all valuable and you should just prioritize getting the highest quantity of substats
Do you think yoimiya could be okay as an off field dps with emblem or smth, maybe with an on field ayato? Xiangling would probably be better anyways but I am curious if that would work 🤔
kuki, yelan, nahida, kokomi
no, sounds very coping 🧐
kuki already builds towards 1k EM, so no need to focus on it with Nahida
consider xq > kokomi, since you already have a healer in kuki. you can also run raiden for more hyperbloom damage
i got a c1 yoimiya , now that i think about it maybe it would work but i think yoi would work better with xingqiu?? who i dont have😭😭
Maybe you can do mono pyro? With xiangling kazuha and bennett?
Or overload
hyperbloom has ICD, meaning only 2 hits can damage the same enemy every 0.5s. that means raiden's faster proc rate of 0.9s compared to kuki's 1.5s can get more hits in.
Nahida Xq Yelan Raiden deals high damage but has no healer.
dont got kazu, lost 5050 to qiqi, the only good electro characters i got is beidou and fishl.... but them flying around is kinda annoying.... maybe sucrose instead of kazu is fine ig
Do you have bennett? I think yoi - benny - beidou and fischl could be good
Maybe replace one of them with sucrose, that could probably be okay as well
Though I dont think i would recommend sucrose for mono pyro
I recommend using a shielder when it comes to Yoimiya 🧐
Oooh yeah
If you have c1 beidou
Her shield isnt that great but somethings better than nothing 😊
c4, i was a beidou main😂😂
so kokomi or zhongli? cause i need 2 teams for abyss and i got only 1 rn, ayaka freeze team with ayaka ayato rossaria and sucrose
well, ig you have Ayato as hydro option in Ayaka so pull for Zhongli if you want to use Yoimiya team, but note that Yoimiya is not really good for abyss
It depends whether you want to invest more in your ayaka team or if you want to build yoi
change rosaria for a healer like Diona
bow user is a no no....im a mobile player, yoi is fun cause its like auto attack
you never need to use Diona normal attack 
you only need her skill and burst
How much crit rate does eula need?
60-80
idk how diona works, isnt rossaria easier to use? or is diona easier?
If you had 60, how much crit damage do you need?
Diona is a shielder + healer + battery, Rosaria is a crit rate buffer, off field dmg dealer, also Battery if fav lance
Id say in an ayaka freeze team diona is much more useful as she shields and heals
I cant really see how rosaria would help the team outside of some additional damage
Rosaria is better as a phys support I think
What’s a good crit rate: crit dmg ratio for childe with skyward harp?
200 cd 2k-2k6 atk 120-130 er should be a good goal
80/160. Get some ER and Em too
Ty
But honestly just use optimizer for childe
How thats gonna be hard but ok i'll try
I’ve still never used it
I need to actually get a crit rate circlet first
It's pretty easy to use once you set it up
How do I set it up?
noted thanks!
There are guides on the site. Basically just put all of your characters, weapons and artifacts in there manually or through the scanner
Do you have the link to it?
It should be the first result when you search genshin optimizer
K ty
afaik the only difference to other chars is that much of her dmg comes in a single hit
so if you're willing to reset until that hit crits, that's a reason to run lower crit rate than usual. crit fishing.
otherwise, the general advice for all characters is to get a 1:2 ratio. twice as much crit dmg as crit rate.
ah alright thanks
i should have used Xingqiu instead of ZL for Scara
but i didnt, and Lector was hell
don't think I could've 3* chamber 1 without xingqiu/yelan with scara if i want to use a eula team 2nd half

true
i cleared 2nd half with HB in 1 min
Scara Faru Bennett ZL took a whole 1:47 on first half 12-1
i think it took me 1:20-1:30
ofc you had XQ 
question why would nahida need cdmg/crate?
damage
i thought she couldnt crit?
she can
or is that her lil things
blooms cant crit till c2
ahhh okay ty
someone teams need different nahida builds just btw
generally if there is another unit with high em, nahida goes em dendro crit
i got tl 65
its fun hehe
😭
go crit rate circlet
🤨 who is using this set? nahida
maybe
she should be using deepwood
im aware ;-;
im trynna build her now but im getting dog shit
sooo shes rocking kazuhas stuff
Deepwood is more important than her EM share 
im not gonna lvl up temp dog shit artifacts .-.
i genuinely havent gotten anything good
Don’t level them, put lvl 0 artifacts on her lol
im getting good stuff from the other set tho
Also why does your Kazuha have that much crit 🤨
oh shes using kaguras
Wanderers or deepwood? If I use wanderer I break the 2pc effect for deepwood but I can get 2 piece wanderer
this is good for an off piece for her yeh?
Use whatever has better substats
No, she wants 4pc deepwood
should use deepwood for other characters
You shouldn’t off piece a flower
aight

whos 2nd best dendro applier rn?
On field or off field?
off field
Dmc

Im playing dating simulators again
Yoo which one im playing doki doki literature club
Are you joking or
yes im joking lol
he's obsessed with snapped neck
star rail
Ok but on a more serious note i actually like monika 😔
Just monika
Yuri as well
The other 2 are annoying asf 😔
I just started reading this manga someone recommended to me and its so cute

name?

Gib
😔 When i said cute i didn't mean it in a romance way breasties
Then in what way
I meant it in a wholesome way 😔
That works I just want something to read
Sauce?
the masterful cat is depressed again today
😔 dont judge me if u end up not liking
Ohhhh ive heard of that I was planning on reading it anyway lol
only use primogems on limited banner, never use it on standard banner. Done 🧐
😔 If i had a cat that responsible that would care for me i would be set for the rest of my life
💯
Can we summon on character banners with primogems?
take this for example, the first 2 are limited banners, the 3rd one is weapon banner and the last is standard banner (you should never roll on it using primogems)
I have 23 acquainted fate and 2 intertwined fate. What banners should I spend them on?
you can only use acquaint fate on standard banner, intertwined fate can be used on both limited character banner and weapon banner
use acquaint fate when you have it, just don't use primogems to buy them
ye, I stole from someone with cat pfp 

Primogems are only used to buy stuff from shop?
you can use it to buy fate or buy resin
So, I shouldn't use acquainted fate to summon on standard banner
only use primogems on intertwined fate
Just whele and do anything u want
just wales and buy things

Should I summon on standard banner cuz u said to never roll on them?
You should pull with the free fates you get from paimon shop and battle pass
Okay I shouldn't summon with fate I bought with primogems on standard banner
Thanks bro

good riddance
What is this ayaya behavior
i need resin to build klee
🤮
who?

Tao
:sip:
:Sipsu:
U sus, ban when

should i buy klees costume 
Can someone who actually knows how team comps work help me with something? 
I need to know if I could make a team with Yae Miko, Eula, and Kaeya work... If not, would a team that has both Yae Miko and Eula work?
Sorry for being stupid. 
how do open this shi 🤦♂️
It would work but not good for abyss
i think yae could work? but not the best
If I put Yae Miko, Eula, and Kaeya on a team, who would be a good option for the last slot?
nvm i figured it out
Diona, that team isn't clearing abyss tho
with enough investment but yae isnt great there, you are better off doing a eula team and a yae team
or just a yae team and someone else for the other team 
I have Ayaka, Itto, Eula, and Yae Miko as DPS characters. I'm not sure how to make it work, but I want to use Eula and Yae Miko because they're some of my favorite characters. 
eula + yae teams have extremely high ER requirements
GUYS i have given skyward spine to xiao rn. so should i keep it or should i buy black cliff pole ?
give him missive
hi
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Are there any good batteries that would make them work together? Sorry for so many questions. 
prolly raiden idk
200 er Eula woohoo
dont have ;-;
shenhes a good battery for eula i believe
this is the best I could find
yae is never bursting and eula needs a lot of er
use skyward dont buy black cliff
Just use er sands 🧐
stop farming vermillion lol
but verm pretty
Not the goblet tho
it gives only 13k per plunge ;-;
lvl 1 NA lmao
just triple crown smg
hot
get your talents to minimum 8/6/8
Ban
U GOTTA UPGRADE THAT NORMAL ATTACK ?!
its where the plunge scaling comes from..
yes normals>burst>skill
😔
disappear
Me when I didn't read the instruction :
🍋 't
ill level up that now
evil conquering
thx
should i farm artifacts more or are they fine ?
Do you know what those numbers mean? I'm kind of lost. Sorry. 😅
they are fine
okk
the blue box at the bottom is how much energy everyone needs
look at the blue number at the bottom, thats the amount of energy recharge you need
Find who
find u
hot
Nps
Thank you for your help! 

Yall sus :susge:


👁️❌🫳🅰️🖕, 🧠🪦🇷🇳

@reef comet I did 2 10x beginners wish summon and got xiangling,Noelle,chongyun
sfssd
You got xiangling, you won the game
Is this gud?
Yes
is she that good?
pair her with a bennet and shes unironically one of the best dps in the game
bouken da broken comes back to starglitter shop in november
she is good, very good, at high investment
unfortunatly, not that good early game, she has a high er req that is hard to reach for early game
and without benny even harder to use as you need benny to battery xl
okay thanks for info
Run 4 fav should be 
hot
Fine thank you
Ayam fain thank you
terrible
Ohmegah
XL oppar
Hi
Hey how much DMG is going to increase after leveling kuki to 70 to 80 (working on 90)
a lot
Burning 
hyperbloom base dmg:
lvl 70 → 2296.92
lvl 80 → 3232.32
lvl 90 → 4340.55
dmg = baseDmg * (1 + 16 EM / (2000 + EM))
so 70 → 90 is like double damage
hi

best reaction frfr

Can i run a double atk on eula since i have phys bonus in weap?
No
No lol
Unless u don't have a physical dmg goblet lol
no
more phys is better then more atk
So for sets i go 2pcs 2pcs for phys or is pale flame 4pcs better?
4pc pale flame is her best, 2pc 2pc can be better depending on the substats
i use 4 pc pale and get around 3k atk w it + sobp
2p2p is 50% phys dmg
4p pale flame is 50% phys dmg but you also get 18% atk as a bonus
Ohh ok ok ty
question, how far behind is gilded dreams compared to flower of paradise lost for hyperbloom/burgeon? wondering whether it's worth going out of my way to farm for flower
3-5%
so pretty minimal?
Paradise is only 4% better than gilded, stick to gilded unless you have wanderer
Yeah, not worth it
gotcha, thanks
what team should i use w klee
kazuha xiangling bennett
ty
Kleee zhongli zhongli zhongli zhongli
Rotation: zhongli zhongli zhongli zhongli zhongli zhongli zhongli
unlimited balls soaring from the sky


yomia
ula
kaaya
Kayak
I got 3 5*s in 3 10 pulls on HSR. You should all fear me
i remember making another acc for fun and got gepard and himeko in my first 10 pull
ayakaa

ayayaa

klee uses this boss drop right
Gogle
does flowers of paradise lost go on the electro triggering hyperbloom?
Yes, that set or 4pc gilded. Paradise lost is not worth farming unless you have Wanderer
A bit better but really not worth it
ty
i just got eula sig weapons should i pull for her? im at 67 pity with 3869 primos
do u like her playstyle?
from the few times ive played her yea, i love claymores but havent been intrested in most of the ones ive got
imo , id pull but before u do , get others opinions on it
true true
How much do you care about meta?
not at all
If you don’t care much about 36 starring abyss and like her gameplay then go for it 
Pog
is it that good?
C2 ong
c2 klees good but if i get c2 , might aswell go for c3 , if im going for c3 mightaswell go for c4 , if im going for c4 mightaswell go for c5 , if im going for c5 might aswell go for c6 , might aswell go for r5 lost prayer too
Whel
but klee's best role if you whalege and use her for speedclears is a support with TTDS, and only rly c2 matters
r5 lost prayer?? pretty sure r5 donut is her bis

this is what optimized klee truly looks like
it was on my old acc BUT , i could remake it one day prob
Which one is better for shenhe
glad and shimen imo
who is in the team
I need more than one opinion
Ayaka, Shenhe,Kokomi(soon,with 4pc tenacity),Kazuha
First build
ideally you want 4pc noblesse there but your 2pc 2pc stats are a lot better, id say right but check optimizer
:3
🐳
What optimiser?
The Ultimate Genshin Impact calculator, that allows you to min-max your characters according to how you play, using what you have.
I am not going to attempt to do this on mobile 💀 I will stick with shim until I can get better artifacts from noblesse
Yeah it’s painful on mobile 💀
Pog yomia moment
yomia is my favourite character
Bolide when
Me who is also an og yoimiya main(also an og ayaka main)
yomia
h
New Inazuma character 4.X leaked Yoimiya's long lost sister who is a hydro bow normal attacker, pog
Yomia*
yomimi
Yo mommi
No the sister's name is Ayimioy
sowwy
can someone give me a good xiangling and collei build
liek whta stats i should go for and what art
Xiangling Emblem of Severed Fate
go all in for er?
Get her a lot of Energy Recharge, then focus on crit
okie
No until you can burst off cd in whatever comp you are using
what about collei i wanna make an aggravate build with her and keqing
tenacity of the millellith?
Yeah
i love their artstyle sm
for collei her abilities are all dendro dmg should i just use deepwood?
gotchga
for klee im gonna be working on her talents tomorrow , should i try n get both her na and e to 8 or try n crown one of them?
NA > burst > skill
doesnt her burst have the worst scaling tho
mb I remembered wrong it's NA > skill > burst, id lvl 8 all of them. No talents are necessary to crown, just crown the characters you like lol
ill 8/8/8 and crown her later on , i didnt prefarm her talent mats 
im a girl 
and im prob gonna main her , i did on my old acc so i mightaswell on this acc
Sus crit ratio
her cr is ass tho so her artifacts are gonna b changed
yeah , she ascends w pyro , if she ascended w crit rate her ratio would b crazy
Dmg ascension is slightly better I believe at high investment
I see
I’m somewhat running out of artefact space, should I use the 4* to bed to level up garbage artefacts to use as fodder for new sets (when Fontaine comes out), use them on random characters I haven’t built or wait to see if new strongboxes are announced in two weeks?
new strongboxes are probably coming
how do I get adventure exp quickly?? what should I do?
World quests is the fastest I’d say
quests , chests , commisions , domains , random events
statue leveling , time challenges

oh and this thing
🐳
🐳
who else could i use instead of bennett? i wanna c6 him so i can run him with klee
face shield, mika, kuki, rosaria, zhongli, layla…
okk tyty , ill use zhongli w her
c-c-c-can we g-g-get m-much highe-r 🤭
gn brother
- alhaitham better + i stream most nights on twitch
- link in the description
- dead chat 😭
👁👄👁
😔
Xiangling*
You*

Didn't understand the math but that's a lot of dmg
Back to my normal name
Who are you? Change name
^
Mesprit


If I was a girl
You are smart 🤓 so uxie
I only got 2 emblem piece after 5 runs

Bro I just want the tail
But never got it
I have 0000000000000
imagine
Imagine imagining
imagine imagineing imagine imagining
. . . risk it?

AAAAAAA
thats pretty good
I needdddd ittttttt
Damn that's good
what character should i use it on
who do you have?

thats rly good for shime tao, but also just good in general so offpiece, 2p atk piece, or 4p shime piece
g r a s s
3 y/o accounts do this
tbh the only time i whaled was getting c6 Noelle
ended up with c5 noelle and a c2 Zhongli. . .
that man just sits on the roster
@neon harness c6 zhongli when
ban
when you get me r32 homa
lol
gave it to Candace
homa on candace 
when the HP scales
which should i use on shogun if she has 237 recharge without the er sands?
lmaooooooooooo identity theft
wdym?
oh yeah mb
💀 bro is delulu rn
how i build:
everyone is a dps
rel
dps gorou where
critomi when
@narrow kraken how's the simping this past day?
i tried crit kokomi its ended up doing less damage than the buble pop from the clam set in a souperconduct team
bad, I can't build blade and do story because I'm in hospital 
oh that sucks, hope you get better soon 😔
thank you
🤨
so JUST candace smacking things does about 15k
wait do i actually need to do exploration on this event 
the explo isn't even that bad
what event
rollercoaster tycoon
i need to break character for a bit
yeah but I hate explo :deadge:
unlucky
why play genshin anyway
just to kill time waiting for the fnaf movie
he is a gacha addict 😔 and a yae miko simp
memsicles fr
very proud of my fiance for that 🤤
i c6'd bennett should i build a pyro jean
rooting for your success
Pyro Jean?
yes
with c6 Bennet? or swirl
c6

insane
or more if she was leveled 
I wonder why
. . . should i just keep blizzard strayer on Ganyu if im just gona use her bust/skill most of the time? (Hyperfridge team)
use her bust 
can be that or emblem
Aqua or Harp?
aqua
ok. . . get a better sands and get her to lv 90 and she should be ready
fav for the drip
this is beautiful
😳 Pablo
goat
i didn even say anything how 
wait, who the fuck are you 
u imposter smg
Questionerino is baizhu good
Can i use shenhe for eula battery or rosaria would be better?
Shenhe ||c1|| would be better
Alright tanks
that'd be 5 USD. Thanks for using my service
decent healing, off field dendro application, nonexistent shielding 🧐
Baizhu shield is like Schroedinger's shield
it might exist, it might not
only one way to find out
eat a Lawachurl slam and see if you deadge
probably not dead but will eat through his shield for good
the shield is mostly for IR anyway
Ty mainly need healers rn anyway really only have kuki and barbara rn 💀
Ar 54 too 💀baizhu is my 3rd healer finally
Well on some bias you can say that he is the best dendro healer you can get rn
There are few situations where Yaoyao is better
We were fated to be together 
🧐 Bro thinks he’s me
real
🧐
Hey 
😔 Are you cheating on me

😔 Why are you trying to steal him from me
🧐 @haughty lotus thoughts on sharing
that's gonna be a nice yae miko novel
Anything for mommy yae
the color of the name is the same color of their face
excep me 
🧐 You enjoy doxxing yourself

Hey 
😔 Bbg, why are you cheating on me
No, I gave meme to you 
what da hell
nothing wrong here 
hellp, do you guyd think that i should wish for scara weapon?? i jsut got the lost prayer and idk it works pertty well wiht him :p
LP is fine on him
should I strongbox atk goblets?
hyperbloom base dmg:
lvl 70 → 2296.92
lvl 80 → 3232.32
lvl 90 → 4340.55dmg = baseDmg * (1 + 16 EM / (2000 + EM))
it's just addition and multiplication, let me insert numbers. let's say you have 1000em and lvl90
dmg = baseDmg * (1 + 16 EM / (2000 + EM))
= 4340.55 * (1 + 16000 / 3000)
= 4340.55 * 19 / 3
~= 27490
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the bar for keeping them should be very high
if it's a 4-stat starter with ER sub it could be a shenhe piece
raiden can run an atk% goblet sometimes, but even she most often prefers electro dmg%
would every other character prefer their elemental dmg bonus goblet?
if they deal talent dmg, then yeah
some chars have scaling that's only one stat, so they'd want a goblet of that stat
usually with ER subs, sometimes EM is good as well
nilou wants hp%, EM and ER for example
shenhe atk% and ER, she's the only pure atk% scaler so far
if the goblet is good, you could speculate there'll be a char for it in the future
but it'll probably be a long time, so I'd keep only the very best
if its emblem, the difference between atk% and electro dmg for raiden is negligible with the catch with similar substats
thx everyone
also certain specific builds dont mind having atk over their elemental dmg bonus since finding the perfect goblet is so random
should I keep artifacts like this? I feel like since it's a flower it won't be a good off-piece, and blizzard strayer needs crit dmg
Throw it away id say, it wouldn’t be awful on support rosaria
alright
can be good for Ayaka🧐
maybe but ayaka needs as much crit dmg as possible
no
keep
It depends
she wants crit dmg, atk and er
i think 33% cr is a bit low right
if your crit rate didn't meet the requirement, it is what it is
it's a good off-piece for a support (who wants crit for fav weapons and ER)
could be the perfect shenhe flower for example
obligatory ayaka flex demonstration
yep, she generally want 35-45, 33 is just decent
Get a cryo goblet first
oops I didn’t put the artifacts
cryo goblet mid mist carries
should I use the left or right flower? I'm just farming for her rn so my artifacts arent the best
why is cryo dmg bonus so low?
depends, left is just shit but that crit rate is quite good
I spent 5 months in blizzard strayer and it was awful
Ayaka with mist and an atk goblet that has good subs is better than cryo with nothing
if instead of upgrading twice to def it was crit dmg instead
imagine
40 cv
Keep both for now. But definitely look for a better one
I at least have a few months left to farm
Still not a good build tbh
Chongyun albedo freeze new meta
it really is
I means it's good but not flex worthy good
give me ur best cv blizzard artifact and I'll give you a 35 cv cryo dmg goblet 
compared to those without mist it’s a flex but yeah not really in comparison to those with a good cryo goblet
You can take my 43 cv atk goblet
I'm considering to start strongboxing BS in case I ever go cryo n_n
if 4.0 gives us emblem strongbox I might switch to that though, so idk if I should even start tbh
I got a 9 stat cryo goblet (cr cd atk% er), so maybe I'll want BS some day..
how do you have er I only have 111%
4.0 will most definitely give emblem there is literally no way it doesn’t, that’s why I’m saving all my artifacts till then
yeah
5 months in hell gets you something
here’s the updated screenshot
The first was from before her outfit
so you can see no upgrades since then
I'm almost at 1500, so will likely need to strongbox something before then
I get decent VV and Noblesse
could go for a better VV flower/plume/sands, or start on another set (BS? but getting to 4pc will take ages)
ur 2 circlets are literally the same lmao
Amazing build but noelle still best geo unit imo
almost
noelle supremacy she was my first main
might as well change to crit rate circlet
big crit number funny
should I just throw all of my level 0 artifacts to the strongbox cause I'll never level them anyway
I really want to build her but just been stuck on other units because the artifact system sucks
if they're bad you can strongbox, yeah
I have the issue of being unable to justify leveling 4 stars that aren’t c6 (outside of specific characters) my I got c6 I think in December which is when I got itto so she got thrown to the side 😭😭
If abyss wasn’t a dps test, I’d still be a noelle main
Dang
some are actually good before c6, but not noelle 
yeah that’s why
Who says you cant run her in abyss?
i'm having trouble figuring out what's bad, what I do is I just keep all useful main stat with at least one crit substat, for flower and feather if they don't have crit substat, having 2 good others like er/atk% and i keep it
also my itto in that photo has the wrong cd circlet he actually has 65 cr 
kinda low for itto
Just though all your itto stuff on noelle
I keep any piece that has both cr and cd that’s really all you need to look out for. For most characters anyways. Hp and em is also important based on the set in case you wanna build other or future characters
And a little investment
her burst is lvl 11 and she just can’t keep up with itto with the same stuff, I do it every once in a while when I’m bored
What team do you run her in?
same as itto, zhongli, gorou and Bennett (my albedo doesn’t have artifacts)
Also for her talents its auto>burst>skill
my bar for flower / plume is 7 useful substats at +20 if it's on-set
8 useful subs for an off-piece I guess
going from +0 to +20 gives you 5 subs, so in theory a +0 fl/pl with 2 stats could be good
in practice I still want double crit
We got a 5 star xq I need a 6star Bennett
Same
I don’t see what everyone sees in raiden National, raiden hyper carry does way more for me
I have 4 teams right now 2 are almost done and the other 2 are up next and all of them use benny
fr though
is a potential ratio of 43.5/254.5 with 122.7 er sufficient for now?
I also often keep 4-stat starters in case of a char like nilou.
I won't roll them until I actually get her, but the potential to get an all-hp% piece is good
Its f2p friendly and can be used entail you get whats needed for hyper ei
C2+ raiden?
My 3 main dps are Ayaka, itto and yoimiya (alhaitham is still getting built) so both teams not ayaka want my Bennet
C0
Atk matters a lot for mist ayaka. Also you will need more ER
Oof for my most invested account my main is phys razor, then melt ganyu, mono pyro klee, followed by tartag
Rational should still be better in single target. In aoe Hypercarry is better if c6 sara
who should i main , klee or eula
Which ever you enjoy
both teams 4 star members (not bennett) are c6 on my account and in both situations hypercarry outdamages for me personally
eula because big number go brrr
Well which one do you have the right teams for. Invest into that one first
yikes thats even rougher than me
I have even more dps that need to be built after that
why not both?? melt shatter new meta
both are semi invested and i have teams for both
What teams?
Well dam
Eula because c6
eula because klee mid
i need to build diluc
so i can buy his outfit

I'm guessing that if I have mist then the atk would be around 2250
for now the only changes i would make would be 90/90 kazu and shenhe because they benfit from it then 80/80 xiangling
Wrong klee is based
its so sad that every single outfit theyve released so far besides ayaka is on characters that are lower tier and need high investment yet theyre literally the best looking fits ive seen
im not rlly looking to lvl them atm bc i haft to work on klee
Ok can I see the builds for the klee team first?
leveling characters is so expensive man i hate it
klee isnt that high investment imo
That's really high for a mist ayaka with cryo goblet
Not that it's bad just insanely hard to get
who 🧐
i need to become a whale so i can enjoy building every character
all of them 
whaling for resin
i already whale for characters
my c2 tighnari is not by choice 💔
i just save primos then spend it to replenish
i suck at saving primos
although i started 4 days ago and i have 15 wishes
im gonna whale for yelan rerelease
i had to go to 78 pity for klee so atp i dont rlly care abt spending
hopefully its like 4.2 but if its next patch im whaling hard for cons
but i also really want kokofish
i alrd had eula sense release so , i have everyone in this update besides the bowl cut twinkie and mika
koko solos that twink
real , she would drown his ass
kokomi nilou and yelan walking past nahidas domain and jumping scarabortion
I might be calculating it incorrectly because I'm testing the artifacts out on my ganyu whcih has a prototype crescent
lower base atk but has an atk substat
im saving for yelan
and i get paid tommorrow
and eula keeps looking nicer and nicer
it might not be that high but it'll probably surpass 2000 atk
real , ended , jumped , obliterated , beaten up , nothing
so true
I'm almost caught up on all who want 90 now. Just Yaoyao sitting at lvl20, and I have like 0 books saved for fontaine
do you get the 20 books a week from teapot?
i stopped building eula , pale flames a bitch and i haft to build klee
tbh i forgot about teapot after i hit level 8 and got all the primos
do not tempt me i need to save
c6 eula is so nice though
what if i
I get 60 resin, 20 books, 120k mora a week
Me with razor
my amber solos
crit rate kinda mid
dont , trust me , some of her consts are so fucking ass
her c6 js makes it easier to get dmg on her ult..
true but c1 and c6....
her c6 is not good
???
Eula's C6 is 40% dmg increase
i appreciate the convincing
what do you mean by "not so good"
klee c6 is better is what they mean
thats one of the biggest increase you can get out of a c6
it is??? i thought it was js a thing to get stacks easier
Klee's c6 is fucking garbage
obviously if it's not 200% dmg boost it's trash
🧐 I thought you was joking all the time

c0 r1 eula can only get 14 stacks, with c6 you can get max even if its still a little hard
that shit literally doubles the amount of stacks u can get
relevant
what the hell 
klee banner sold how much it did because its literally the best c6 in the game
they've been saying that and I thought they were joking too 
only up to c4 is good
klee walks on that liyue hydro with the bad cut
i didnt know it was dmg increase , i thought it made it so u could get stacks easier 
did u not read what the c6 does
its only a damage increase because hoyo locked her stacks behind the last con
people simp, they don't even know what fuck is good about the cons 😔
real , cuz if i think theyre pretty idgaf what theyre consts do , im pulling
no im wrong i admit klee c6 is bad
dehya holds the best c6 kit in the game sorry
my beautiful pyro desert queen
🧐
well do more research before you speak ig

this is the only way to whale
me spending for haitham and weapon because massive booba
no cuz , i literally dont read any shi abt the consts or give 1 fucks 2 fucks any fucks abt them , if theyre pretty and i like theyre playstyle im pulling for their const/consts
do be alot of excuses when one said sth dumb
imagine pulling for meta
the cliché
Well go to #💬gimshim-chat then
ok and i didnt know? mb js bc i said something wrong.. like i literally said i didnt know

im staying where people know the game
better know then
You just said you don't pull for meta
ok and i know now
kinda weird that we r saying that meta doesnt matter in a channel that is just about meta
sarcasm
it also helps that every 3.x character is meta (not scara or dehya) because of how broken dendro is in recent abysses
glad this abyss is different
not necessarily broken

It’s not a bad thing the game did need the massive meta change it brought but it’s still kinda sad esp when geo and phys get left in the dust asides from 1 or 2 characters that are good
I’m waiting for focalor so I can run a full archon hyperbloom team
Hyperbloom 
Most fun reaction idc
🧐
most lame reaction ngl
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