📌gimshim-help

[umbral sedge]

#👥gimshim-coop

[waxen helm]

if you want to help people in game prob better to ask in #👥gimshim-coop

[lime nacelle]

Bruh i messsed up

Ish

I'm such an idiot

Lol

[waxen helm]

its ok

[quaint fern]

I sent two people to #📌gimshim-help instead of #👥gimshim-coop by accident

we all some times

[lime nacelle]

Yeu

[waxen helm]

[lime nacelle]

Yey

[swift crown]

[olive isle]

[dusty cape]

[fickle quiver]

[gritty hearth]

[waxen helm]

[lyric cargo]

is that a low base atk weapon? (might just be that it's not fully leveled)

[waxen helm]

510 seems to be highest atk when fully maxed out for dis weaponaccording to wiki

no idea if its high or low for polearms

[rugged sparrow]

fav wher

[rugged sparrow]

all weapons share the same base

510 is 3rd highest for 4-star

(or 2nd lowest )

[waxen helm]

oh wait give me a moment to process this my 2 braincells are trying their best

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

below fav, but it's on the list at least

[shadow lynx]

Should be on Favonius tho...

[lyric cargo]

I guess they don't have it?

[rugged sparrow]

well re-farm artis then

[dusty cape]

Isn’t like 20 crit rate good enough to proc the passive or am I delusional

[gritty hearth]

is this good

[reef comet]

should be 100, 30 is good :sip:

[lyric cargo]

her icy quills don't use her own crit stats, but crit with the buffed character instead afaik

so that plume looks a bit sus to me, afaik you just want as many atk% subs on it as possible

[gritty hearth]

im just using the plume as a placeholder rn , i dont rlly use glad so its the only one i have atm

[lyric cargo]

ah

could use an off-piece, but I assume the ER from that goblet is needed

[gritty hearth]

yeahh

[lyric cargo]

are you doing 3 weekly bosses?

it's where most of my glad pieces come from

[gritty hearth]

i do weekly bosses for fun

[lyric cargo]

I do them for billets

though I'm not convinced it's worth it, it's just FOMO in case there's a craftable weapon I want in the future

the only way to get it will be to have done those weeklies

[gritty hearth]

i have some billets i dont use

[lyric cargo]

iirc I'm drowning in bows but have few swords

I'm preparing to r5 something just in case

[gritty hearth]

mm , i have some billets on my alt i need to use for my ayaka so i can get her weapon to r5

[lyric cargo]

btw: how is Sucrose aggravate for 12-1-2 this abyss?

I assume the electro lavavhurl resists electro and doesn't care much about anemo? So it'll mostly be the dendro unit damaging it?

[rugged sparrow]

with enough dmg u can just brute force through the shield, albeit gonna take longer to actually kill it

haven't tried pure aggravate myself in 12-1-2

have only tried monogeo/monopyro/quicken

[lyric cargo]

I feel a bit limited in team choices by using double hydro first half

I'd try national 2nd if I had a hydro

maybe I should monopyro second half

could do something like Fischl EC or hyperbloom first half

[lyric cargo]

monopyro as in Ben Xl Jean Kazuha

it's probably bad since it's not a shieldbreaking chamber, nvm

[rugged sparrow]

might lack in damage yeah

[lyric cargo]

I tend to think of Jean as a pyro unit

[quaint fern]

how did you know what I was doing right now

[rugged sparrow]

• ASIMON gonna make your life hell

[lyric cargo]

but she doesn't actually benefit from pyro dmg%

[lyric cargo]

I already 3★'d chamber 2 and 3

[rugged sparrow]

oh

what teams have you tried for 12-1-1

[lyric cargo]

1st half:
Xq Yelan Ben Xl/Kaz

2nd half:
Nahida Fischl Beidou Sucrose/Venti

[rugged sparrow]

I think running 1 hydro is enough for 1st half, just run national with Sucrose/Kaz/Venti last slot

CC helps immensely for the whelps

[lyric cargo]

I'll try:

Nahida Xq Kuki [chongyun]
Ben Xl Yelan Sucrose

I saw someone do hyperfridge first half

less ideal for breaking the pyro shield than double hydro

[lyric cargo]

I'll try that as well

my first run used Venti Xq Yelan Raiden

[rugged sparrow]

ah

I did some monohydro shenanigans with Yelan/Xq/Jean/Venti

[lyric cargo]

actually I just died with that because of no healer

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

the team I actually got through with and 3★'d chamber 3 was this

[ripe robin]

nilou team on first half feels pretty nice to use

[neon harness]

[olive isle]

[neon harness]

Ngl, I think this was the first time I cleared abyss

In like a year

[still lynx]

I forgot how sus the Lisa climbing sounds were

😭😭😭

[reef comet]

how lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931632494963466334/1078071292948910110/SPOILER_SPOILER_BF22DEC9-AFD7-49A7-AE54-2A386EBE5122.gif

[neon harness]

skill issue

I avoided all the consecrated beast abyss too

[quaint fern]

ah yes.... fond memory of 2020

where are those who share the memories 🥹

[reef comet]

consecrated beasts are fun, just avoid dying 😔

[neon harness]

😭

[quaint fern]

just reset 😁

[mild nebula]

a friend@of mine pnce lostened to lisa Climbing noises for 24 hours

[reef comet]

just 1st try smh 🧐

[neon harness]

💀 bro is down bad

[reef comet]

you would listen to zhongli idle for 24 hours, wouldn't you 🧐

[neon harness]

🧐 yes, I would listen to it forever if he moaned during his idle

[gaunt kettle]

who is skyward spine good on?

[reef comet]

ban when, meme sus

[neon harness]

Raiden

[gaunt kettle]

besides raiden

[neon harness]

Umn not that many polearms want onfield and er weapon

[reef comet]

speaking of zhongli, zhongli can use it

[neon harness]

😔fav>

[ripe robin]

eula hyperbloom is cute

[gaunt kettle]

give me a comprehensive list

[feral forge]

if i have 315 joyeux vouchers does that mean i have explored the new place fully?

[ripe robin]

yes

[feral forge]

sure?

[dense coral]

[ripe robin]

yup 100%

[feral forge]

welp 30 days without any thing to do

sadge

[quaint fern]

wish me luck o7

[gritty hearth]

real

[reef comet]

it is easy, don't even need luck

[neon harness]

kinda sus no dendro electro for dorito boss but you got this!!

[rugged sparrow]

it's doable without quicken but takes a while

should be fine if their top half can clear fast

[ripe robin]

no electro on second half is pure masochism

[gritty hearth]

i got my ass whooped in floor 12

[river socket]

is it worth leveling up normal skill on xingqiu, bennet or kazuha? i currently use them and diluc

[neon harness]

Nope, keep the normals at 1

Diluc needs to have his normals leveled tho

[reef comet]

I would just level up their skill to 6

[ripe robin]

kazuha u can do without leveling any talent

[kind plover]

you can up xq e

[ripe robin]

xingqiu definitely needs his e leveled

[quaint fern]

not bad
1 whole minute left

now idk if i cleared 1st half too fast
they don't have energy full

[ripe robin]

woah asimon went nicely then rng wise

[quaint fern]

not too bad when your ganyu does like 150k bloom 🐳

[pliant cargo]

Can someone explain what to do here

[neon harness]

blow the sand away, use anemo or there should be a device near the entrance

[pliant cargo]

I stand on top of it

And it’s not doing nothing

Found the problem

[pliant cargo]

Thank u so much

[pastel osprey]

wish one it good of hu tao?

[neon harness]

left

[quaint fern]

really depends on your stats yeah in all cases left unless you're already at like 99 CR

[primal nova]

who can amos bow go on? don’t have ganyu or anything and should i level it?

[quaint fern]

charged attack amber, it's okay on tighnari

[primal nova]

ah i dont use amber

dont have tignari but should i level it

[gritty hearth]

its good on charged attack venti

[quaint fern]

no one plays CA venti

[primal nova]

bow characters i have are amber, collei, sara, gorou, fischl, farazan

[gritty hearth]

ive met some ppl who did

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/esqueleto-gif-24452082

[primal nova]

should i level it? i doubt i would use it though

[pliant cargo]

How bout here

[quaint fern]

waste of resources, don't

[pliant cargo]

What do I do

[primal nova]

last question is it ganyus signature?

[gritty hearth]

yes

[primal nova]

theres another puzzle thing which gives you a yellow triangle then u go near the flame things

[quaint fern]

canonically, it's the bow that she uses

not originally HER bow but it's what she's shown using

her melt BiS isn't even amos anymore though

[primal nova]

oh whats her bis now

[neon harness]

i think its naris sig bow

[pliant cargo]

I can’t find it how dose it look

[primal nova]

do you want me to join and try help

[quaint fern]

I keep telling myself it's for nilou

[gritty hearth]

his bow is never coming back , its gonna b eula 2.0

[pliant cargo]

Yeah sure thank u

[primal nova]

whats ypur uid and world level?

wait please tell me your in asia

[pliant cargo]

888941456

YO THX SO MUCH

How u get that

[river socket]

is it worth using condesned resin on domains that give talent level up materials

[gritty hearth]

yeah

[pliant cargo]

Alr I restarted it

[primal nova]

is that weird floating thing moving or staying still

[pliant cargo]

Yeah it is now

[primal nova]

Oh yay! Ok when it goes near that one torch use electro (lisa might be easiest)

[pliant cargo]

Ooobhh thx so much

[quaint fern]

i'm still a bit short right? buff caps at like 76.6k?

[primal nova]

All good!

[quaint fern]

let me check math then

(max hp - 30000) (9/1000) = 400

oh wait you''re right

i remembered wrong

[lyric cargo]

idk why I was trying so many weird teams

first attempt with this was easily 3★:
Nahida Xq Kuki Venti
Raiden Yelan Ben Xl

[rugged sparrow]

that's nice

[lyric cargo]

I thought rational wouldn't be great because the enemies in 12-1-2 are so spread out

so I didn't attempt it

[lyric cargo]

well, they were wrong about the last digits 😛

74444 is easy to memorize at least

[quaint fern]

techincally 74445 but yeah

[lyric cargo]

oh, right

[whole wedge]

This might sound weird but, is Alhaitham Spread or Hyperbloom/Quickbloom better at AOE?

[quaint fern]

i'd assume spread ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ripe robin]

they probably have very similar performance, assuming you are using nahida on all of them

[whole wedge]

I have Nahida, yes

[ripe robin]

depending on how you group them with alhaitham you might have an AOE edge, but I kinda still think they would be very similar

[whole wedge]

Tried the spread team without anyone using Favonius… and it sucked having AlHaitham’s burst usually almost full instead of ready

[whole wedge]

I’m just seeing how comparable Spread is to Hyperbloom by asking this

[rugged sparrow]

what's your haitham's ER anyway

[whole wedge]

127.5 with Shinobu using Xiphos R2

[gritty hearth]

should i pull for shenhes bis

[rugged sparrow]

do you attempt to burst every rotation or smth

[whole wedge]

Yes

[rugged sparrow]

you'd need a fuckton if you want to burst every rot

[whole wedge]

I’m not supposed to?

[rugged sparrow]

you're not supposed to

treat him like Fischl where you alternate between E and Q for his dendro infusion

[whole wedge]

Normally in my Hyperbloom team, I usually burst every rotation

[rugged sparrow]

in hyperbloom yes, for spread no

[radiant beacon]

If you want to, that is a excellent build and the bis not needed

[lyric cargo]

I'm guessing one difference will be how well you apply electro to all enemies

if they all have quicken, Nahida will trigger spread with her skill on all of them

[gritty hearth]

yeahh but i need a replacement weapon for engulfing bc i wanna build raiden soon but i cant leave shenhe weaponless

[whole wedge]

That’s definitely something to consider

[lyric cargo]

spread also gives you Beidou

but she doesn't benefit from dendro res shred, and hyperbloom does

[whole wedge]

Would you prefer using Alhaitham Hyperbloom or Spread?

[lyric cargo]

idk how that plays out. Beidou will be strongest against exactly two targets

in a vacuum my gut says Alh Nhd Kuki Yelan

but I'd use aggravate in AoE, having a grouper is nice and you also buff Beidou's damage via VV res shred

something like Yy/Nhd Fischl Beidou Sucrose

[reef comet]

you better off using fav, with shenhe bis, your er won't meet the requirement

[lyric cargo]

idk if you have the units

[gritty hearth]

mm ok tyty

[lyric cargo]

maybe catch Lemon and get their opinion sometime

[rugged sparrow]

didn't he explain at one point

Spread has better vertical scaling

hyperbloom is bottlenecked by c2 Nahida to scale further

[lyric cargo]

yeah, if you could add a third spread unit that'd likely be best

[radiant beacon]

She can hold fav

[lyric cargo]

this is adding an aggravate unit though, so it's about aggravate's higher ceiling vs hb getting 30% res shred where the aggravate unit gets 0%

I also like how hb gives you a unit with 1000em for Nahida's burst scaling

I assume Nahida builds full EM in Alh Spread?

[gray oxide]

Ohhh dendro discussion, count me in

[small blade]

[rugged sparrow]

she might, depending

if you run Kuki she can be the one running 4p Ins + full EM

or Nahida can reach 1k EM with dendro reso + 4p Ins + EM subs + sig

without having to run triple EM

like EM/EM/Crit or EM/Dendro/EM

[gray oxide]

I still dont understand the context someone mind explaining?

[rugged sparrow]

just a simple question of "hb or spread tham"

[gray oxide]

Easy

Spread have a higher ceiling, and scales better with AoE content
Hyperbloom have a higher floor

[toxic vessel]

What character should I use in this team
Bennet , XingLing, Layla which one should I use?

Using RAzor makes sense?

I don't wanna use sucrose or Noelle

[gray oxide]

You can use Sucrose

[haughty lotus]

[toxic vessel]

Btw i killed all the enemies
And finally cleared the quest I was stucked on heheh

[toxic vessel]

I don't want to 😭 his fighting style is trash and I hate mage type characters

[lyric cargo]

so aggravate's higher ceiling trumps hb's -30% enemy res?

because we can't add a third spread unit, it'll have to be an aggravate one

[gray oxide]

Imean you dont have to use her on field, just cast her skill and burst and swap out

[gray oxide]

Wdym by 30% enemy res shred?

[rugged sparrow]

Harshit, this is like your 4th time asking this

you'll always get the same answer, either just run Sucrose or Kaeya

[lyric cargo]

Alh Nhd Kuki Yelan:
3 units benefit from deepwood debuff

Alh Nhd Kuki Fischl:
2 units benefit from deepwood debuff

[toxic vessel]

lol i guess i have no choice

I thought Razor might become a good sub dps

[gray oxide]

The HB team would def perform better in ST

[rugged sparrow]

Razor is an on-fielder, which works good with Kaeya/Layla, but not with Bennett/XL

[gray oxide]

Tbh

Hidden

There r something to keep in mind abt HB

You loose spread on Alhaitham

Kuki cant hold instructor for 120 teamwide EM share

[lyric cargo]

for MT I was suggesting full aggravate since that gives you an anemo grouper

but OP was asking about Alh teams in AoE so I guess spread?

[gray oxide]

Yea spread would be the logical choice

It have much better AoE scaling

Imean not much better

But better*

[lyric cargo]

ah, it's not full uptime even with Nahida Alh?

I guess it gets cleared and then you have to wait for kuki to apply electro again

which vs enemies is subject to ICD

[lyric cargo]

^

tagging OP so they see

[gray oxide]

Not rlly

Rlly depend on Kuki's bad electro app to reapply quicken

And with Yelan quicken uptime is alot better vs XQ but its not 100%

Paragraph again?

[haughty lotus]

[lime shore]

can u fish toki pages V from enkanomiya

[lyric cargo]

how does losing quicken actually work?

I guess you start out with a good amount of dendro aura

then kuki triggers quicken

subsequent electro apps trigger both quicken and aggravate until dendro gauge is gone and fully converted to quicken?

once the gauge is full quicken, additional d/e app only triggers spread/agg and won't increase gauge at all

while hydro and passage of time both drains the gauge

[lyric cargo]

multiple!

[primal nova]

should i build kuki even if my only dendro character is traveler?

[unkempt river]

Is it possible to do some PvP in coop mode?

[lime shore]

u outta have dendro amber girl

[haughty lotus]

Show a screenshot of your character list

[primal nova]

i mean i do but idk if shes good

[gray oxide]

Its basically just Yelan will clear out the quicken aura before Kuki reapply electro to the underlying dendro aura to create quicken

[lime shore]

go dendro traveler and her

[primal nova]

k gimme a second

[haughty lotus]

k

[gray oxide]

You overestimated how fast Kuki's electro is

[lyric cargo]

you can build hyperbloom with traveler, it has decent floor if you're just starting out.. but very low ceiling and circle impact. Nahida will feel much better

ultimately hb without Nahida isn't that viable compared to non-dendro alternatives

[primal nova]

did the second page send

[haughty lotus]

No

[primal nova]

ar 55

second page ^

[gray oxide]

Hyperbloom with Nahida is viable

Its just not at the good level

[primal nova]

i don’t have her

[haughty lotus]

You can do hyperbloom but you have better options

[primal nova]

so worth it or no

oh also on this topic can i have some help team building

[haughty lotus]

No

[primal nova]

):

[haughty lotus]

Hu Tao xingqiu Layla balls
Raiden Kazuha Bennett fischl

[lyric cargo]

right, I knew it was slow but wasn't thinking of it. Or maybe I thought her burst gets you a strong quicken aura initially

so the dendro aura never gets fully converted to quicken. hmm.

[gray oxide]

I mean without* lol

[primal nova]

… can you repeat the character after layla?

[haughty lotus]

Kaeya. Did I make a typo? 🧐

[gray oxide]

Not rlly its just all 1u quicken aura

[gray oxide]

Imean there is this thing called underlying aura

[primal nova]

Kaeya? that’s an interesting choice

[haughty lotus]

You can also do Hu Tao xingqiu sucrose Amber, this has higher damage but is harder to play

[gray oxide]

When you apply dendro aura to an enemy with quicken aura 2 things happens
The enemy gets a dendro aura under the quicken aura
The attack triggers spread

Because the dendro aura is the underlying aura, it will consume the quicken aura first

[lyric cargo]

oh, I thought the dendro would only react with quicken (not add more underlying aura)

[ripe robin]

damn EULA... definitely carried me this abyss

[copper mist]

Lmao

Imagine if you didn't pull eula

You wouldn't be able to clear this

[haughty lotus]

Fr

[lyric cargo]

just don't swap to her

[ripe robin]

yeah definitely needed her

well to be fair she helped a bit doing like 480k to each vishap on the last chamber with 2 bursts

[whole wedge]

When it comes to Hyperbloom, Xingqiu produces more cores and Yelan increases the dmg, so it’s a win-win no matter who right

[rugged sparrow]

not quite

Xq increases cores generation but griefs your quicken aura (assuming you play quickbloom), he also gives stagger resist which is nice for some on-fielders that want it. generally better for pure hyperbloom teams

Yelan has slower hydro app (pre-c2) which helps you maintain quicken aura = more aggravate/spread procs. she also buffs on-fielder's personal damage damage output, so she's generally better for quickbloom teams

[whole wedge]

I keep forgetting there’s a difference between Quickbloom and Hyperbloom

[rugged sparrow]

do be like that

Yelan can also access Elegy to further boost the team

[whole wedge]

Alhaitham is Quickbloom in this case right? Since the damage is mostly from Alhaitham?

[rugged sparrow]

quickbloom is just aggravate/spread + hyperbloom, don't overthink it

[copper mist]

Yeah

If you play alhaitham with hyperbloom you can call that a quickbloom team

[copper mist]

But le xq can hold le key of khaj nisut

[rugged sparrow]

quickbloom tham means u have Xq/Yelan in the team
pure spread means u just brute force with dendro (quicken)

[copper mist]

[rugged sparrow]

ER reqs go brr

[whole wedge]

What about a team like Nahida, Xingqiu, Shinobu and Kazuha? It’s more pure hyperbloom so Xingqiu is better here?

[rugged sparrow]

that's more of a hyperbloom yes, Kazuha is ??? though

[whole wedge]

Oh I have him at C2

[rugged sparrow]

he doesn't exactly buff anything other than Xq's damage

[copper mist]

Kazuha basically useless there besides grouping, I guess with C2 he does kinda buff your haitham

[rugged sparrow]

where's the haitham in Nahida/Xq/Shinobu/Kaz

[whole wedge]

Your actually right, I keep forgetting the C2 effect is only applied to who is on field in the ult

[copper mist]

Oh wait lmfao

I didn't see nahida

[sick quarry]

This good? (AR36)

[haughty lotus]

Looks good, if you have an electro goblet use that instead

[rugged sparrow]

try referring to this: https://tinyurl.com/pre-ar45guide

[whole wedge]

Speaking of this team, it’s crazy if with groups of enemies, but with single targets especially bosses, that’s when it falls

[haughty lotus]

I mean just don’t play hyperbloom in aoe at that point

[rugged sparrow]

it's "good" in aoe by the virtue of Kazuha grouping

otherwise hyperbloom has always been an sgt-centric team

[whole wedge]

All this time I thought Kazuha was helping in ways more than grouping, but there were simple details that shows he really doesn’t lol

[whole wedge]

Speaking of single target, how do you feel about Hu Tao? All other single target units or teams have at least some AOE capability(or I forgot someone), but then there’s Hu Tao who’s like almost strictly single target

[rugged sparrow]

at least she's good at dishing sgt dmg, with respectable aoe

[river socket]

condensed or normal resin to collect ley line?

[rugged sparrow]

entirely up to you, if you need a lot of leyline mats might as well go with condensed

[small blade]

Yoimiya

[whole wedge]

The only AOE she has is her burst

[rugged sparrow]

Yi

[whole wedge]

Oh. Right, bow Hu Tao

[rugged sparrow]

well her CA can hit more than one targets but sure

[reef comet]

Yoimiya can burst and deal aoe

[whole wedge]

I know it can but her aoe still sucks

[rugged sparrow]

it's serviceable for abyss floors at least, we don't have many heavy aoe content

if you want heavy aoe pyro DPS just run XL/Diluc

[whole wedge]

This is why I haven’t used her in a while because it’s annoying trying to use her to hit multiple enemies, I used her in the 3.7 abyss because only because of the restrictions

[reef comet]

I never use her in abyss 😔

[whole wedge]

Xiangling is good, idk about Diluc though, he powercrept af

[rugged sparrow]

he is

[reef comet]

any char can clear abyss, with the right investment 🧐

[rugged sparrow]

powercreeping in genshin isn't real, spare for Layla that just invalidates Diona's existence

[whole wedge]

Speaking of Diluc, why is there no mention of the Beacon claymore in the build guide(the one that is pinned) for him?

[ripe robin]

Layla does that? interesting I wonder how she would perform on an ayaka freeze team when it comes to batterying ayaka

[rugged sparrow]

because it's good

[whole wedge]

Sorry forgot to put no, I meant why is there NO mention

[reef comet]

that guide is just too old 👴

[small blade]

She has em buff with c6 for some teams

[rugged sparrow]

build guide hasn't been really updated
Nymph's Dream isn't even on hydro DPS section (Ayato and Childe mainly)

[whole wedge]

They just haven’t updated it in a while I guess?

[reef comet]

yep

they never did

[whole wedge]

Is Diluc’s BiS the Beacon at this point

[rugged sparrow]

if purely speaking from particle/s, Layla has an edge
Diona's only advantage is burst particle generation which makes it easier to funnel for Ayaka

[reef comet]

who knows, it's a 5* crit stick so it's good on him

[rugged sparrow]

otherwise Layla can do:

1. 4p totm for the Ayaka freeze = higher DPS
2. she has high personal DPS herself

[whole wedge]

Or interchangeable with Redhorn depending on crit needs

[rugged sparrow]

atp it might, Beacon is way too cracked for claymore DPS in general

[whole wedge]

When you guys started Genshin, did you guys want Diluc?

[rugged sparrow]

nop

[reef comet]

Never did, they give him to me anyway

[rugged sparrow]

I hate his character, got him recently and he's still friendship1, 20/40 (for fate) and dead

[whole wedge]

I started 1.1 second half

[small blade]

I wanted childe got diluc instead

[reef comet]

I lost Raiden to Diluc and never get any Raiden since then

[whole wedge]

First ever 5 star? Mine was Qiqi

[reef comet]

my first 5 star is bennett

[rugged sparrow]

ZL back in 1.1

[small blade]

When was childes first banner? I forgot

[rugged sparrow]

1.1 first half

[viral creek]

got eula on accident while building pity for kokonut, is she even good

[rugged sparrow]

ah yes, building pity moment

[reef comet]

ah yes, no

[rugged sparrow]

meta-wise she's worse compared to other DPS at similar investment

but she's usable even in abyss

[reef comet]

she's pretty usable in this abyss

[ripe robin]

totm is usually put on kokomi(Though you wouldn't have koko on there with diona lol) or mona usually, as for her personal dps i imagine it's pretty negligible if she's built purely for shielding, so I'd imagine they have similar performance regarding that, I imagine that diona's healing does give her a bit of an edge over Layla, since you do have moments it's when needed, in a team where you use mona.

[terse remnant]

Yes

[ripe robin]

||her best team...||

[terse remnant]

it’s his current BiS weapon at full stacks, better than redhorn in avg dps in meltluc comps

[rugged sparrow]

Diona's healing exists because of her shield downtime + pathetic shield HP
even with triple HP, Layla's personal damage far eclipses Diona. Diona effectively only contributes to 500 DPS (using sim) last I checked

[viral creek]

i don't have the wise mf

[whole wedge]

I’ll admit, sometimes I pull senselessly and sometimes it gets me what I never really wanted but I never blame anyone else but myself

[rugged sparrow]

same

[viral creek]

that's how i got yoimiya too, i don't even want her

[reef comet]

that's how I got 70% of my characters, damn

[ripe robin]

how much does a shielder Layla contribute to overall team damage?

[rugged sparrow]

lemme check

[whole wedge]

Lmao, 70%

The only “accidental” way to pull on a banner is if it’s actually an accident, like pressing it on accident and not pressing intentionally and getting someone you didn’t want and rant about it

Anyone gonna roll for Blade?

[ripe robin]

just tested layla her in chamber 1 of floor 12 in abyss first half instead of diona, her cryo application from her e kinda helps smoothens things a bit but otherwise it is kinda indifferent to a diona clear .

[mystic jolt]

Is that a new Minecraft character?

[ripe robin]

though her shield is definitely stronger

[rugged sparrow]

@near prism come here u

there I brought the Layla specialist™️

but from my little research in Ayaka/Kaz/Mona/Layla her DPS (triple hp) hovers around 6k range

[whole wedge]

||jokes aside, there’s a lot of Honkai Star Rail players here too that’s why I ask stuff about it here too||

[mystic jolt]

Has anyone beaten the new abyss yet? What's the most annoying enemy/chamber?

[rugged sparrow]

12-1-1 imo

[whole wedge]

This abyss is way more doable than the last one, I wonder how many people had their brains broken last update from trying to figure out what teams to use

[reef comet]

isn't it the easiest floor 🧐

[rugged sparrow]

maybe, I just find it most annoying

the rest is a breeze to me

[mystic jolt]

As long as Hu Tao can sweep the floor I'm coolin

[rugged sparrow]

hence the "imo"

[ripe robin]

no annoying chamber, maybe energy drain on chamber 12-3-2, but even that is easily manageable

[whole wedge]

^^^

[rugged sparrow]

what energy drain

[near prism]

Hi

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[rugged sparrow]

if u dont mind

[lapis galleon]

help pls... im trying to choose between wanderer and kokomi (im at 71 pity)
i have acess to all materials needed for wanderer
i dont have watatsumi island
pretty sure u can just use waverider to get there
im doing a hyperbloom team
im a miko main
on one hand kokomi would be useful
but i have to work harder for her materials
personally i dont want to fight hypostasis
help pls

[reef comet]

🧐

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

Anywhere between 10 to 20% depending on the team

[rugged sparrow]

20% would lean more towards monocryo w/ Shenhe right

[whole wedge]

Lmao

[ripe robin]

I do see koko as a better investment in the long run, but wanderer isn't a bad alternative if you want him.

[rugged sparrow]

1. Yae isn't an ideal hyperbloom char, just a disclaimer
2. Kokomi is better value, just co-op it (the materials etc)
3. only go for Wanderer if you really like him, he has insane needs in terms of investments/teams

[near prism]

Ye, iirc correctly in ganyu shenhe kaz Layla triple hp Layla with HoD under kqmc has 10k-11k dps out of 50k~

[lapis galleon]

ok ty

[mystic jolt]

Wait so would the yae thing apply to an aggravate build too or nah?

Cuz I have her built like that

[rugged sparrow]

hyperbloom isn't aggravate

[reef comet]

[rugged sparrow]

her E has low priority on dendro cores

[mystic jolt]

Ya ik but it still uses electro and dendro yk

Idk dendro mechanics

[whole wedge]

Anyone who has Gepard, have you ever had at least one member die

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[near prism]

Tingyun

[lapis galleon]

ohhh gotcha

[whole wedge]

Holy shit can she stop fucking dying all the time

[rugged sparrow]

it's always Tingyun

[near prism]

No.no, not always

Sometimes it's bronya or silver wolf

[rugged sparrow]

Pela for me cuz Doomsday Beast somehow loves her ???

I swear Doomsday Beast is harder than MoC atp

[near prism]

See I use Pela and sw in the same team with gepard that way enemies don't know whether to hit Pela or sw

[rugged sparrow]

Gepard with 300% aggro modifier gets entirely ignored

[near prism]

Naturally

[whole wedge]

Is there any character that has debuffs to counter the thing Kafka does to make the team fight each other

[near prism]

Bronya, luocha and nat afaik

[rugged sparrow]

yeh all 3 has cleanse

[near prism]

It's called cleanse, it's a concept we have in genshin too

[near prism]

No one else right?

[rugged sparrow]

non

[analog rapids]

even enemies have preferences on who they want to hit

[whole wedge]

Natasha does?

[rugged sparrow]

wait, M7

[reef comet]

yep

[near prism]

Yes, A4 trace iirc

[whole wedge]

What info do we have on Blade so far, is he DPS

[rugged sparrow]

truly the foxian beauty of all time

[mystic jolt]

Wait I thought they just hit at random

[rugged sparrow]

they don't

[near prism]

Noh that's Yukong
Tingyun is the foxian beauty influencer

[rugged sparrow]

different paths have different aggro value
preservation obviously being the highest

Hunt being the lowest iirc

[near prism]

@rugged sparrow after I get Yukong I'm gonna game and use welt Yukong luocha sw

[reef comet]

mfw my Seele gets attack the most 🧐

[rugged sparrow]

grandpa and hacker kid obliterates enemies

[near prism]

Welt actually goes so hard in AoE

[mystic jolt]

This what happens when I don't read the manual

[near prism]

No it's what happens when you only use the info given to you in the game

[rugged sparrow]

I think it's datamined stuff, yeah

[mystic jolt]

Ah I see

[near prism]

Hoyo has this fun habit of making it as infuriating as possible to figure out mechanics

[whole wedge]

Team suggestions for this stage?

[rugged sparrow]

looks at genshin

[quick tangle]

Who should I replace with kokomi if I have a team of
Beidou
Layla
Ningguang
Rosaria
All except rosaria are properly built, ningguang and beidou I have their name cards, I rarely use rosaria, and I main beidou

[mystic jolt]

I learned that the hard way💀

[near prism]

Would you be surprised if I told you sac sword and or any form of cdr allowed Layla to have 2 whole different interactions

[rugged sparrow]

having a namecard doesn't constitute to a built char though?
the overall team is bad nonetheless, what kind of team do you have in mind?

[reef comet]

what mechanics, shouldn't we just pewpew and enemies die

[rugged sparrow]

[lime nacelle]

Ninguang

To do taser team

[quick tangle]

No one supports anyone that’s my entire team, I’m hoping once with kokomi I can sort out who to put on my team and who to keep out because it’s a mess and I don’t know how I’ve lived this long

[near prism]

If you refresh her E just before it breaks, you don't lose the stars from the previous E and you also don't lose the A1 shield strength % stacks

It acts as one continuous shield

[lime nacelle]

And physical in rotations with rosalia @quick tangle

[mystic jolt]

Yes pew pew with barbruh go brrrr

[near prism]

Again, only possible with some form of CDR

[rugged sparrow]

you'd want Nat for 2nd half for sure
maybe do
Gepard/Nat/SW/Yanqing on Kafka
Jingyuan/Tingyun/Fire MC/+1 on top half

[rugged sparrow]

hot

[quick tangle]

I meant as in “I have this character fully done, so should I retire them?”

[near prism]

Hence, In this presentation I will show you why Layla+chongyun is a good pairing

[lime nacelle]

Yess

Taser team IS broken

@quick tangle

[near prism]

Naturally they're not great together most of the time

But it's an interesting interaction with chongyun's cdr from c2

[rugged sparrow]

that's entirely up to you. friendship is an entirely flavor thing to the game
if you wanna do abyss, you obviously need a better team
if you're just playing genshin for fun, then do whatever pleases you most

[whole wedge]

Isn’t that Jingyuan team going to die easily?

[rugged sparrow]

it's moc4 and your chars are high-levelled

FMC can solo prese on lower difficulty MoC
which matters even less if your Jingyuan can just one cycle each boss

less cycle = less dmg taken
who would've thought that offense is the best defense

[unkempt river]

I'm playing coop mode with my brother now and I can see everything he has explored and teleport to waypoints. Have I unlocked all of these tp points too or what?

[whole wedge]

In his world, yes

[unkempt river]

Ohh, so I basically joined his world?

[rugged sparrow]

yes, exploration progress is player-dependent

it's very common to join other people's worlds if you want to do bosses/content you haven't unlocked for various reasons

[fathom eagle]

How do i thaw all shards?

[reef comet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFDvapZCVwE

[bleak turret]

Can someone help me please

[frozen obsidian]

is there any way to get these ones that are in the water a little too deep? 😅

[frozen obsidian]

What do you need help with? 🤔

[bleak turret]

My accounts been hacked I did the form twice and they both been denied

I’ve gave bank statements and ever

Everything

It was ar 52

[frozen obsidian]

Ohh.. account stuff. They can probably help you over at the official genshin discord instead of here.

[bleak turret]

I can’t chat there

[bleak turret]

Also use Nahida if u have her

[olive isle]

yes?

[frozen obsidian]

Ah.. Guess I'll be able to grab it once I get her lmao. thanks

[bleak turret]

.

[olive isle]

even your date of account creation, specific characters?

[bleak turret]

I’ve got more proof of my ownership’

[bleak turret]

Idrm when I first joined

[olive isle]

and your wanderer’s name?

[bleak turret]

Don’t have him

I spent a month farming for Klee and the hacker is using all my mats on other characters

[olive isle]

you don’t have to own wanderer, you can still rename him at the end of the chapter 3 interlude

[bleak turret]

I don’t think o got that far

[olive isle]

what about pc specs?

[bleak turret]

I got to the part after u fight wanderer with Nahida

[bleak turret]

I put them

And I also put all the devices I had played on

I. Have access to the HoYoLAB still

[olive isle]

hold on

if that so, try to hoyoverse login

using that hoyolab acc

[bleak turret]

I can’t it says to verify with the email

[bleak turret]

How I do?

[olive isle]

https://account.hoyoverse.com/#/account/accountInfo

if you still manage to log in that account

you still have a chance

[bleak turret]

Hol up lemme log on my pc

[olive isle]

do it on phone

[bleak turret]

ye i can get into it

but i never set a username

[olive isle]

Okay

You still got a chance, try to get rid of that email

[bleak turret]

i cant

[olive isle]

let’s do dirty for once

[bleak turret]

?

[olive isle]

log out all devices

[bleak turret]

delete?

[olive isle]

everything

it might log you out

[bleak turret]

its only that one

[olive isle]

hmmmm

[bleak turret]

im still in

[olive isle]

okay that’s your email problem

a hacker managed to brute force your email

[bleak turret]

its changed to rambler.ru instead of gmail

[olive isle]

yea, gotta check your personal email first

that’s the hacker’s email

[bleak turret]

bruh hoyoverse needs a way so i can hop in a vc with a staff member and show them my proof

cuz hackers deleted all my friends and everything

[olive isle]

yea but settle your hacked email first, surely lots of stuff are linked in there

[olive isle]

if that so, use your usual login location as proof of ownership

[bleak turret]

wym

[olive isle]

the place where you often log in to genshin

do you login often to a classroom? jail? detention room?

[bleak turret]

?

wait ill get ss of what happens rq

[frozen obsidian]

Damn. It's actually crazy how rampant account hackings are and a lot of them are from the same domain--rambler.ru

[bleak turret]

I had nearly a year work on it and spent like £30

[frozen obsidian]

I hope you get your account back. I'd hate for this to happen to me.

[ripe robin]

wow that is weird

[bleak turret]

ive done the freaking form forthe 3rd time

hoyoverse gotta hop in a vc with me ong

@frozen obsidian https://youtu.be/67csNrMVDiM u recon i can use this as proof?

[frozen obsidian]

Lmao. Love that you're flexing on a lv30 boss. However, this seems like a good proof to me!

[bleak turret]

gotta flex on lvl 30 trust

nah my jean is way stronger now tho

i can nearly 1 cycle lvl 80 i think

bennet was lvl 50 cuz yes

[ripe robin]

did you link your account with your phone number or just email?

[frozen obsidian]

Haven't fought pyro regisvine for a while and I just started building xq, so imma try how fast I can kill it.

[bleak turret]

just email cuz my friend made it for me

[ripe robin]

and to be clear it was your personal email?

[bleak turret]

ye

its the email i use for everything

whats a good team comp i could use

[ripe robin]

weird, considering it supposed to send a verification code for everything you do with your account information

[bleak turret]

didnt get one

[small blade]

screenshots and videos of your account won't do much. You can't prove it's actually your vid/img

[bleak turret]

ye but if u go onto my other videos which is this rblx volleyball game it shows my account i dont change the name

[frozen obsidian]

Really? That's crappy.

[ripe robin]

at least they could try

[bleak turret]

also the channel name _gura. is the same as what i had my genshin account as gura

[ripe robin]

it won't hurt

[small blade]

Well I can say techinally send them a email saying Gura is actually my yt channel

[frozen obsidian]

That yt account should be the same as the previous e-mail used with his account too, so that seems like it would count.

[bleak turret]

he also changed the name to buer in russian and the pfp to nahida

but i wanted jean so i wouldnt have changed it

[bleak turret]

it is the same email

but ye in some of the vb vids it shows my rblx user which is also gura

i can send them proof thats my account

[small blade]

do you have any purchase receipts?

[bleak turret]

i have the thing from the bank app

[pliant jolt]

i just pulled eula 30 pity.. and idk if shes any good so is she any good ? (I am a complete free to play and i am shiverin in ma timbers currently.)

[frozen obsidian]

I wonder if it's possible that the hacker has access to your email, got the verification code, then deleted the e-mail.

[bleak turret]

where it shows like how much u paid

nah it would have shown up

also i have like 200 unread emails i doubt he would go through them all

[rugged sparrow]

1. shouldn't have built pity on a banner you're not familiar with
2. meta-wise she's not that good as she requires a lot more invesment compared to other chars

[frozen obsidian]

All they have to do is filter e-mails from hoyoverse and see the most recent one--they don't have to read your other emails, but I digress.

[bleak turret]

klee is better then eula tbh

[small blade]

Hoyoverse should give you a receipt for that no?

[bleak turret]

no it just goes to the bank app

[pliant jolt]

o no i mean i dont really mind getting eula tbh. she looks kinda cool ig and my fav char is ayato and thats like hella far prob so all good just askin if she good on C0 and for a f2p.

[frozen obsidian]

They didn't send you a receipt from when you bought anything in-game?

[bleak turret]

thats all it gives

[rugged sparrow]

she has fairly ok team options as f2p, but her performance is meeeh

by all means, she's still a viable DPS to clear abyss

[pliant jolt]

ok good bc i currently have keqing as my first team and then i was thinkin i could do eula im ar 45 and still floor 6 idk how to go more.

[frozen obsidian]

Actually, that makes sense. I buy in-game currency via paypal and paypal sends me receipts, but it doesn't have hoyoverse account info.

[pliant jolt]

what dungeon thingy should i try clearing for eula like artifact ?

and what f2p weapon is best for her ?

[bleak turret]

i sent these but ye

[bleak turret]

run 2 pc pale flame 2 pc blood stained if u want best dmg pretty sure

[rugged sparrow]

Proto Archaic / Snow-Tombed, you get Snow-Tombed for free iirc
otherwise show your options

[bleak turret]

also make sure u have a high er cuz most of her dmg comes from her ult

[rugged sparrow]

it's best to farm artis when you hit AR45 for guaranteed 5-star drop
she ideally wants to run 4p Pale Flame (Ridge Watch domain)

[weak cargo]

hi guys good morning or good evening or good afternoon

[rugged sparrow]

if you have free Layla from the event, you can also farm 4p Tenacity for her, so it's a pretty good deal

[pliant jolt]

where do i get it for free ?

[rugged sparrow]

by doing a hidden quest in Dragonspine, I believe

[pliant jolt]

oh ok

[weak cargo]

how much hp do i need minimum on zhongli

[rugged sparrow]

there's no set minimum honestly, just run with whatever you're most comfortable with

[pliant jolt]

is it fine if i focus on 2 characters at the same time ?

[rugged sparrow]

deeeeeepends, honestly
mind showing your roster?

[weak cargo]

its better to do it one at a time

my what

[pliant jolt]

keqing and eula ? my keqing is already nice for me but i still wanted to do eula for other team

i wanna speedrun abyss for primos

[bleak turret]

if u wanna clear fast imo just spam bloom teams

[ripe robin]

can't you click on it to show additional information so it can give you a serial number of sorts?

[rugged sparrow]

better post your roster here so we can judge if you have sufficient resources for 2 separate teams

[crisp bluff]

need help with floor 12😞

[bleak turret]

nope

[pliant jolt]

i dont have any dendro chars except traveler

[weak cargo]

what is a roster u mean build?

[bleak turret]

use traveler then

[rugged sparrow]

I'm not asking you

I'm asking jteodors
roster = char list

[weak cargo]

oh ok sorry

[pliant jolt]

my first team

[bleak turret]

spam bloom

[bleak turret]

jean>

[rugged sparrow]

looks good honestly, now for your other chars

[frozen obsidian]

If that's true, then that's some crappy system. It should provide you with a transaction ID.

[ripe robin]

Try logging in into your bank's website and check the history of transaction on your account

[pliant jolt]

my other team

but i was thinkin of doing eula team since i just got her..

[bleak turret]

its nto a site its a app

and thats all it says

[pliant jolt]

and im kinda too lazy to farm sayu

dont have any ascend mats for her

[rugged sparrow]

frankly you have better teams than a Eula team already
again, can you post your whole chars? to see if you can actually run Keqing + Eula

[ripe robin]

I know, but each bank is supposed to have a website on browser and on there, a history of transactions is for sure to be found

[bleak turret]

idk cuz its my dads

[weak cargo]

should I put zhongli full hp

[frozen obsidian]

The app doesn't have a website connected to it that you can log-in using your credentials?

[weak cargo]

ok

[bleak turret]

again idk its not my account

[frozen obsidian]

Might want to ask your dad for that transaction ID.

[ripe robin]

well... you could ask your father about it and explain the situation to him, from there you can make progress on retriving your account.

[pliant jolt]

i was thinkin of doing keqing one team and eula other team both as main dps.

oh and im tryna get xianqui rn he just doesnt wanna join me 😭

[frozen obsidian]

you'll see him in paimon's bargain in September

[rugged sparrow]

kinda tough since Keqing badly wants Fischl and Eula would also benefit from Fischl than any of your electro options

Keqing/Fischl/DMC/Jean
Eula/Layla/Kuki/Bennett

should be your best bet

ideally I'd just run a rev-melt instead of Eula but

[pliant jolt]

ok but i prob wont play enough to have those shit things that much to buy him.

[bleak turret]

just subsitue him for some1

[rugged sparrow]

substituting Xingqiu with c2 Yelan yes

[pliant jolt]

ok thanks and what would be the comp of eula+keqing ?

[pliant jolt]

seems impossible to get c2 tbh

[rugged sparrow]

you just don't pair them together

[rugged sparrow]

forgot to add /s

[pliant jolt]

bc i dont know how to set goals in genshin so i leave very fast and return every once few months

[pliant jolt]

so its either that or if i actually want better results i just abandon eula ?

[bleak turret]

ye

physical dmg isnt that good anymore

[rugged sparrow]

mhm

you can also ditch Keqing so you have Eula/Fischl/Layla/Lisa and a rev-melt team

[pliant jolt]

nah but keqing alr my current best built char

even got her lvl 80 weapon

[tame cedar]

Is 2pc deepwood and 2pc emblem good on dendro trav?

[rugged sparrow]

depends on the team

[tame cedar]

I plan on using him with my cyno

[rugged sparrow]

who are the other two units

if there's no other dendro DPS like Nahida, you can run 4p Noblesse on DMC
if there is, 4p Deepwood is viable to further boost your Nahida's damage (who in turn can run smth like 4p Gilded)

[tame cedar]

My team is
Cyno
Beidou
Traveller
Kazuha

[rugged sparrow]

yeah just 4p Noblesse

[tame cedar]

Ok

Thank you

Last question which character are good with Eula? Cuz rn my current team is
Eula
Beidou
Kazuha
Diona

[rugged sparrow]

Eula's team format is generally Eula/cryo battery/electro/flex

what chars do you have

[tame cedar]

I meant diona not bennett

@rugged sparrow

[rare iron]

He asked who you have, but usually something like Eula Fischl Rosa Diona is good

Raiden also works as the electro

[tame cedar]

I don't have Raiden and I don't have fischl built

And Rosa is also not built

[rare iron]

Yeah time to build them then

[sick quarry]

hi guys
i have a couple wishes over and i wonder what banner i should spend them on?

[reef comet]

who do you like?

[tender swan]

Depends on what's your playstyle and who you like.

[sick quarry]

eula is pretty cool
idk who fits my team better tho

[reef comet]

You find Eula cool, roll her then 🧐

[tender swan]

Go for it

[pliant jolt]

what stats should i have on the artifacts ?

[tender swan]

Daym xq

[reef comet]

:sip:

[rugged sparrow]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds for ar45 and above

[sick quarry]

huh?

[frozen obsidian]

Yeah. Someone just got banned for something similar very quickly lmao

[tender swan]

I think it's against the rules

[sick quarry]

oop

[tender swan]

Do you have beidou/rosaria/bennett?

[sick quarry]

i do have beidou

not using her tho

[tender swan]

what abt bennett?

[sick quarry]

nah dont have him

[unkempt river]

How is Sayu?

[sick quarry]

welp ok i got eula

[rugged sparrow]

she's an alright anemo slot since she also doubles as a healer, but she has severe energy issues

[tender swan]

Congrats for getting her

[reef comet]

pretty good for overworld because she won't chase animals away

[olive isle]

Lilypichu

[unkempt river]

nicee

[frozen obsidian]

i keep forgetting about that fact

[unkempt river]

What fact

Which ones should I use?

[frozen obsidian]

Lilypichu voices Sayu

[sick quarry]

so which team should i use?
Im currently going with
hutao - xingqiu - fischl - layla

[frozen obsidian]

You'll want to invest in xiangling since she's strong and fits in many teams. In your case, personally, I would use xiangling, anemo MC (lumine), mona, and maybe beidou/lisa?

[unkempt river]

Hydro and Electro? Why not use Kaeya for the freeze?

Or is the lighting and hydro effect better?

[weak cargo]

spiral abbys team reacommendations?

[olive isle]

it’s either you go freeze or go electro charged, there’s no in between

[unkempt river]

yeah, but is the electro charged better than freeze?

[frozen obsidian]

Kaeya can work too for a melt team. Either way, you'll be fine using them to go through the story until you have more characters.

[olive isle]

they’re both good in their own ways

while freeze is safer but not good on bosses

[weak cargo]

guys a little help pls?

[olive isle]

let me analyze first

[weak cargo]

oh ok

theyre all unbuilt ıll build them

[reef comet]

Eula, Fischl, Beidou, Layla

[sick quarry]

at level 10 can anyone tell where to use resins

[frozen obsidian]

gimme a sec

[frozen obsidian]

https://tinyurl.com/pre-ar45guide

[frozen obsidian]

you'll want to use your resins for ascension materials, weapon materials, and talent materials.

[sick quarry]

huh whats this

[sick quarry]

at level 10 there is nothing except the boss but they are of too high level

[frozen obsidian]

It's a guide for going through the game from low AR to AR 45.

[sick quarry]

oh

[frozen obsidian]

If you don't have anything to spend your resin on for now, then spend them on blue leylines which provides character exp materials. They look like this:

[olive isle]

1st half: xiangling, xq, kazuha, benny
2nd half: nahida, fischl, lisa, baizhu

[weak cargo]

ok ıll build them thanks

is xq keqing or xingqiou

[frozen obsidian]

xingqiu

[olive isle]

Xingqiu

[weak cargo]

wait

yeah that was a stupid question

[frozen obsidian]

nah, you're good.

[pliant jolt]

thanks

[scenic spindle]

Can anyone help?

Idk what to do my with 30% crit flower

I thought itto needed gladiator

[lyric cargo]

when in doubt, off-piece

[scenic spindle]

Alright

[lyric cargo]

does it have other stats beyond 30% crit damage?

[scenic spindle]

But I still feel like my hu tao is doomed

[scenic spindle]

I don't remember but I remember flat def

And ER

[lyric cargo]

not the easiest char to farm for

[scenic spindle]

I literally cannot get my hu tao to hit 400k

With her ult

Only 100k 🥲🥲

[lyric cargo]

damage benchmarks for a char I don't play don't tell me as much

you can post her buildcard if you want

[scenic spindle]

WRONG BUILD

that's the wrong build

[marble hound]

Mid build

Get gud

[scenic spindle]

there we go

[lyric cargo]

keep strongboxing crimson witch I guess

[scenic spindle]

for some reason this build gets better damage

[lyric cargo]

the goblet has basically no substats

[marble hound]

Thats worse than the first one😭

Oh pyro goblet

Nvm

[lyric cargo]

the good news is you're bound to get a better goblet since it's offpiece

[random valley]

what team can i use for floor 11 and 12?

[scenic spindle]

I can't use this one because it lowers my CR

so sadge

I should have chose ganyu instead sigh hu tao is a hassle to build

[lyric cargo]

freeze first half should perform well

aggravate second half for ASIMON

[scenic spindle]

I just wish someone could save this account

[lyric cargo]

it just takes grinding I guess?

[marble hound]

Pray to rng jesus

[lyric cargo]

unless character pool is the problem as well

[scenic spindle]

I got some insane pieces yesterday for itto but not for hu tao

[scenic spindle]

keqing is c1

[lyric cargo]

I see Sucrose national

hutao without Yelan or Zhongli might not be the best, not sure.

monogeo is missing units

[scenic spindle]

there was no yelan back then

I'm an old player that quit for a few years

[weak cargo]

still working on the gobllet but what do you think

is everyone asleep

[reef comet]

you're using him as a support or a random ass build?

[weak cargo]

supoort

[swift crown]

😔Where's the 4pc noblesse

[reef comet]

get 4p noblesse, use sapwood

[weak cargo]

sapwood on benny?

[swift crown]

Yes

[weak cargo]

ı use sac sword

[swift crown]

That's why you're changing it to sapwood

[weak cargo]

its lvl 60

[swift crown]

[swift crown]

Level it

[weak cargo]

wow oh no ur joking

I'll

[swift crown]

🤨We're not joking

[ripe robin]

sac is kinda useless on him, give that to xingqiu, benny's E cooldown is already so short.

[weak cargo]

saRcaSM

ok ok ıll give him sapwood

[swift crown]

It's difficult to tell if people asking for help are being sarcastic or not 😔

Especially since this is a genshin server

[quiet pendant]

is this a good team for hu tao?

[elder bluff]

how about this

[weak cargo]

its an i but an ı

withot the dot

[swift crown]

Ngl I thought my screen was glitching out

[ripe robin]

smh not using burst-nuke support build

[olive isle]

[reef comet]

er sands >>

[weak cargo]

no its on my keyboard and we use both in my language theyre different letters

[nimble spindle]

ah Bennet could heal hutao so maybe other hydro/ xl / shielder

[weak cargo]

and I just uuse it bc it should be without the dot (I) but ım too lazy to press shift

so it turns out as ı

[quiet pendant]

would something like a c6 yunjin work?

[nimble spindle]

If C6 yunjin then you would user more na than ca right?

[vague fulcrum]

do i make collei my sub dps or do i stick with building fischl

cus i have 2 lisa for electro

and i feel like having 2 electro users is holding me down

[weak cargo]

btw I also have İ

and İts 80 now

[nimble spindle]

2 dendro is more efficient if you play dendro reaction imo

[reef comet]

hutao xingqiu fischl layla

[vague fulcrum]

im jus tryna have more some "element variety" for better reactions if that makes sense

[nimble spindle]

ohh what chara do you have tho, mix and match team comps always fun

[vague fulcrum]

i heard kaveh is good but i have little actual comp knowledge

[nimble spindle]

yep Kaveh is good like Nilou lite, quick bloom with his skill + it heals him

[vague fulcrum]

would you think he'd do good on my team? and who would i swap him with?

[weak cargo]

should I give up on pyro dmg bonus for 4p for benny

[nimble spindle]

you can create an alternate team with him, and still save the ele charge team. Kaveh - Barbara - collei - dendro MC is quite nice for bloom at the start

[kind plover]

he doesnt really need pyro goblet so yeah

[weak cargo]

ok

[nimble spindle]

Perhaps change it to hp%

[kindred garnet]

was trying to find out what was eating my pc storage and i found genshin is nearly 100gbs
is this right?? is it really that big for everyone else now too?

[magic frost]

how much er and em is xigleg supposed to have

[weak cargo]

haha funny

[nimble spindle]

well I just follow what the stat recommend

[weak cargo]

ı need attack boost

so definetly atk% and crit

[nimble spindle]

200+ so the burst uptime is ontime

[weak cargo]

just noticed my laptop has 50gb left/400

so probably yes

[kind plover]

only weapon base atk affect his atk buff

[weak cargo]

oh

so crit then?

[kindred garnet]

mines at 6gbs/475 😭
trying to clean up storage

[magic frost]

oof ok

[nimble spindle]

benny buff comes from his base atk boya

[magic frost]

I think she has too much er

[weak cargo]

ok

[sick quarry]

best way to level ur AR? im at 39 atm and i feel really slow ngl

[magic frost]

I didnt build her until recently snd so i have nothing for her

[nimble spindle]

but his healing still need from his hp

[vague fulcrum]

im about to start sumeru so ill try building for this team

[swift crown]

Dailies, exploration, quests

[magic frost]

you get 100 exp per domain clear i thnk

[vale wind]

usually people go for er, hp, healing bonus

[swift crown]

I can guarantee Sumeru will give you a lot to work with

[magic frost]

when famring daily

[nimble spindle]

cause her burst cost is high and her value is from burst so yeah

[magic frost]

*i meant em oops

[nimble spindle]

same

[magic frost]

she has 469 em lmao

but only 155 er

[nimble spindle]

ohh try to balance with her er

[magic frost]

i have no er main stats

[nimble spindle]

ganbare ganbare, sumeru is huge and fun to explore

[magic frost]

pain

[nimble spindle]

hm what arti your xl using currently?

[magic frost]

uhh half emblem and et for em bc i have nothing else

*wt

Wt speicifcially because i have a nice cup lmao

[nimble spindle]

Wt?

[magic frost]

Wanderer’s troupe

[nimble spindle]

ah that

[magic frost]

I was tryna pick between these 2 and my friend said pick atk bc her atk is currently pathrtic (and i sgree on the psthetic part)

[nimble spindle]

Is there really no er sands? For goblet I think using er before pyro while you balancing the er

[magic frost]

(She’s at 996 atk 😭)

[magic frost]

yeah my sands has no er thst isnt def def hp hp

and that is waiting in the strongbox lmao

[nimble spindle]

aw the first one is good actually

[nimble spindle]

how bout your goblet and circlet?

[magic frost]

uhh lemme get my goblet rq

[magic frost]

sorry that took a while (had to start it up lmao)

[small blade]

Try to get 4pc emblem with correct mainstats then keep looking for better ones. EM/ATK sand, pyro goblet and crit circlet. Use the catch r5 on her. Aim for 200% ER, 1200+ atk, 200-300 EM, 60/120 crit for now

[small blade]

That's a good goblet. You can use that as your offpiece

[nimble spindle]

yep catch is one of the key, good luck fishing for it

[magic frost]

OH RIGHT I FORGOT FISHING EXISTED 💀💀💀💀💀

[swift crown]

Prestige spotted

[nimble spindle]

if you lazy just craft the prototype one

[magic frost]

she’s on the dragon’s ehatever eith em substat

I should fish, yeah

[nimble spindle]

dragonsbane

[magic frost]

ih yes yes thst

[small blade]

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-wave-cute-gif-26206290

[magic frost]

oh and im also in a dilemma lmao

[nimble spindle]

Good luck

[magic frost]

do i get wanderer or kokomi or skip for 4.0

[nimble spindle]

[swift crown]

[nimble spindle]

kokomi imo

[small blade]

Wait till a character you like comes

[swift crown]

I'd pull for kokomi if your gambling addiction is that bad but you should probably wait and see 4.0 characters first

[magic frost]

i like wanderer because he’s bbg and flies
kokomi will help ganyu permafreeze
I saw wuite a bit on reddit thst apparently 4.0 will have an archon???

[shrewd garden]

Anyone who uses Zhongli as a main DPS?

[swift crown]

No leaks

[magic frost]

it’s those calculation people

idk if it counts

[swift crown]

Tf you mean calculation 😭

[small blade]

Calculating leaks fr

[swift crown]

How do you calculate banner rotations

[nimble spindle]

Simp first meta later

[magic frost]

IDK THEY SAY EVERY DK HOW MANY GET SRCHON

[olive isle]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-donut-kokomi-kocopium-gif-25600010

that's my comment ^

[magic frost]

GOOD POINT

[nimble spindle]

nah no archon in 4.0

[magic frost]

HMM BUT IF I HPGRT KOKOMI MAYBE I CAN ABYSS AND GET SIMP LATER

[swift crown]

😔Just wait for the 4.0 stream