mondstreet-votes

[final gorge]

damn that’s a pity

[wicked quest]

F

[final gorge]

u could earn 50 mora this round

[sharp cobalt]

I salute you, you didn't get swayed by this bitcoin

[rugged igloo]

[sand arrow]

Definitely going to be out of stock by then

[neon ibex]

watch as klee makes a big gap

then gets clapped by Hmm in the last minute

[rancid whale]

it's more plausible than it seems.

a couple millionaires can do it themselves.

[neon ibex]

i'll wait in few hours before I vote

[final gorge]

💀💀💀

[neon ibex]

I losed 200 on baal

[rancid whale]

cough

[neon ibex]

first time gambling and I fell so hard

almost went bankrupt

maybe I am morax

[fast glen]

100 Mora best profit

[jaunty stone]

That would require the previous method, which is trying to overcome the winning emote by a close margin.

[half ore]

There is 0 profit without the bonus. Only loss

[fast glen]

Since the 1st part of the formula is almost 0 if everyone votes for KleeReee

[final gorge]

the most profit is like only 1 mora gap

[jaunty stone]

If you vote for HMMM right now, you will experience only loss. If you vote for KleeREEE with less than the bonus, you will lose atleast half of your input.

You can try and wait for the last 5ish minutes, see if anyone would try to overturn the current winning emote, then vote accordingly. You don't need to vote for HMMM, even if many people are spontaneously voting it. If it is still losing, you may vote for KleeREE and gain some profit.

[fast glen]

KleeReee have a few invalid entries cause they put Ree instead of Reee 🤦

[glacial briar]

Can our input aka the b be the same as the extra prize aka the d or does it have to be bigger to unlock it

[jaunty stone]

I has to be equal to or above to gain the bonus. I heavily recommend only giving the 100, as it would give you the maximum profit of approximately 50%.

[fast glen]

B larger or equal to D

[glacial briar]

Yeah i know with mora youd only lose profit unless the losing is more then 50% of the winning

[jaunty stone]

Ah, yes. But in this specific round, you will be regaining your 100 every single time, plus the result of the usual formula.

[glacial briar]

Yeah so with 100 the margin is 50 extra mora

If you win that is

[jaunty stone]

Indeed. ^^

Everyone, there are three Es in KleeREEE and 3 Ms in HMMM, so vote carefully.

[tepid gull]

one guy just got saved by the E's

[graceful mason]

Yes yes

[tall lotus]

13 mora profits STONK

[sharp cobalt]

Watch this 11k gap go to nothing after 4 hours

[distant kayak]

timezones says otherwise

[tight ice]

yeah i always am suprised how people keep overturning the vote

[sharp cobalt]

it's always like this!!!

They couldn't just let my Baal go

[tight ice]

hopefully klee wins this one

[sharp cobalt]

watch how people ruins it later

[safe pecan]

tbh u don't really need a turn over for this considering the extra prize and all

[fast glen]

I doubt Klee will be overturned, since everyone will profit in Klee
Overturn have higher payout but too risky

[frosty meteor]

if they have enough funds they could overturn and get extra profit

[fast glen]

12k vs 500

It will be interesting to watch 🍿

[frosty meteor]

yes it will

[pseudo fox]

yeah

[fast glen]

Wtf did Hmmm get less vote?

[tall lotus]

there are 2 type of people who participate first one is people who actually want emojis and another one is people who want more mora

[fast glen]

It's 300 now

[lilac trout]

u guys want to over turn the votes??

[karmic grove]

[distant kayak]

[karmic grove]

[pseudo fox]

inb4 the last minute they turn over the votes

[distant kayak]

literally don't care for mora, give us the kleereee*

wao i typo twice

[karmic grove]

there's 13000 mora for Klee, I don't think overturning is possible

[distant kayak]

who's actually gonna dump that much mora to overturn

[lilac trout]

same here but still we don't know how much mora others have

[karmic grove]

[lethal sphinx]

Anyone know how to check how much mora u have?

[distant kayak]

use .pf in #bot-playground

[safe pecan]

best case scenario would be if some people tried to overturn and failed giving out even more profits

[sand arrow]

True

[lethal sphinx]

Thanks

[lilac trout]

the hmmm emoji is better ...

[final gorge]

true

[marble raven]

doesnt matter, both are added to the server anyway

[final gorge]

oooh really?

[jaunty stone]

This is just a formality at this point.

[lilac trout]

then whats the point of over turning the votes

[marble raven]

well sussy paimon did say 1st 2nd and 3rd place are the ones going to get added

[sand arrow]

Just mora

[jaunty stone]

Mora.

[marble raven]

[lilac trout]

oh
i thought ppl wanted another emoji to win and that was the reason of over turning stuff

[jaunty stone]

No. It was always mora.

[latent zealot]

Nah, both are guaranteed to be on here anyways

So it’s just profiting at this point

[sharp cobalt]

No one wins, the house of Morax always wins

[bitter lance]

fiddy free mora

[sand arrow]

Imagine how funny it would be

If the 2 animated emotes won and nitroless people only had one new emote

RaidenGasm got 4th unfortunately

[sharp cobalt]

[jaunty stone]

It is indeed truly unfortunate.

[marble raven]

as a nitroless pleb im just used to using default emoji so i dont really bother

[elfin nest]

[distant kayak]

[spring ingot]

[eager coral]

i say this round's result are the same as the first one

also why is klee beating animals everytime shes competing

[golden vessel]

The animal stole Klee's treasure and blew up

[marble raven]

the animal is not guilty.

but klee is always innocent.

[golden vessel]

Therefore the animal is guilty

[fast glen]

18k vs 400

Trying to overturn that is like..... A legendary feat

It's like using a Lvl 1 Barbara vs lvl90 Baal

[regal zinc]

I dont think they wont do it

Because if you vote 100 is a sure 50

At least on the winning side

Right?

[fast glen]

Yup
100 is 50 profit

[regal zinc]

Then, they definitely wont do it

Maybe on the next battle

🤔

[bitter lance]

[eager coral]

[elfin nest]

is it time to take hmm to the moon

[tepid gull]

👀

[tall lotus]

50 mora bois

[fast glen]

I don't think we will do that

[grim mica]

I spent 20 on it. That's all I had

[brisk folio]

@fast glen trying to break the bot?

[smoky nacelle]

Wdym?

[golden vessel]

Please let KleeREEE win

[elfin nest]

it will at this point

its hard to take a 21k pot down within 5 minutes

unless

[smoky nacelle]

Actually its possible

[copper barn]

I would vote 100 mora but I lost all my mora lmao I have like 35

[smoky nacelle]

They formed a whole discord group

[wary shard]

It won’t work

[smoky nacelle]

No, it will

[elfin nest]

lmao thatll be hilarious

[smoky nacelle]

Yeah

[wary shard]

You know what would make this server fun? Being able to transfer mora between people

[copper barn]

Istg if that happens I’m done with spending my mora bc I’ll literally have exactly 0

[wheat jetty]

What were we on again, 25k? Still most of us already voted, so no worries

[elfin nest]

then ppl will make smurfs and donate to themselves

[smoky nacelle]

No, it would just result in lots of alts

[uneven jungle]

I hope it will so i wouldn’t lose my 20 mora spent

[wary shard]

Of course you would have to add bot/alt protection

[copper barn]

yea ppl just using their alt acc’s to win themselves some free mora

it wouldn’t work

[smoky nacelle]

Yes

[jaunty stone]

Nah, HMMM is not going to win this time. Good game.

[wheat jetty]

You’ll still only get around 10 mora back if kleereee wins

[copper barn]

how abt the extra prize?

[uneven jungle]

I voted for hmmm

[wary shard]

Let’s say we thought of a mostly foolproof plan though. It could lead to fun moments

[uneven jungle]

So

[full granite]

[wary shard]

The Mora Mafia would emerge

[bitter lance]

tippers

[jaunty stone]

Pikachu, maybe you can try to vote for KleeREEE right now?

[copper barn]

in like 20 seconds gotta speed run

[wary shard]

10 secs

[final gorge]

oh no

[brisk folio]

Closed

[wicked quest]

It already ended

[bitter lance]

[wary shard]

It’s over

[smoky nacelle]

Oh? Which group are you with?

[jaunty stone]

Ah

[brisk folio]

Wooooooo lesgooooooo

[copper barn]

it takes a while to finalize

[pseudo fox]

yay

[jaunty stone]

5-30 minutes. It depends.

[copper barn]

[gloomy elbow]

Rip

[wary shard]

Wdym? If by emote I’m with the winning side

[gloomy elbow]

rip Satire

[smoky nacelle]

Oh i see

[uneven jungle]

Guess my 20 mora is gone lmao

[smoky nacelle]

I thought you were gonna overturn the votes lol

[copper barn]

did u only have 20 mora?

[uneven jungle]

No but

[wary shard]

Nah, I would use mora transfer to create a mora loan shark business

[copper barn]

ikr BIG F

[uneven jungle]

I don't want to vote for something I couldn't use

[wary shard]

Monopolize the industry and then create the mora mafia

[jaunty stone]

Pikachu, both of those were going to be added anyway. This round was just for the Mora.

[elfin nest]

mora wall street

[wary shard]

I’ve already committed several mora crimes involving fraud and duplication of mora

So might as well keep on going

[wheat jetty]

wot

[copper barn]

think they’re talking about it’s a gif and they don’t have nitro

[bitter lance]

[golden vessel]

Show da WAE master

[final gorge]

aHahhahahahaq

[wary shard]

Yeah we took advantage of the bot and queued 0 mora songs before they patched it

[wicked quest]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-happy-halloween-dog-fluffy-cute-gif-10136551

[jaunty stone]

Yes, but my point is that their wish is of no issue because both the gif one and non-gif one are being added, whether either of them win or not. It's just a formality and opportunity for Mora.

[golden vessel]

Since the winning emote has much more vote, is it possible to lose mora if I vote less than 100 mora?

[tepid gull]

yes

[golden vessel]

I see

[wheat jetty]

the duplication part, pray tell

[final gorge]

yep you lost 50%

[jaunty stone]

You will definitely lose Mora if you vote less than 100.

[smoky nacelle]

You must vote 100 exactly

No higher no lower

[wheat jetty]

These past 4 rounds were to find the 1st 2nd and 3rd emoji to be added btw

[golden vessel]

Welp, at least I didn't lose all of it

[copper barn]

too bad I only had 35 in my wallet and voted for 35

[regal zinc]

🤔

[undone kayak]

Rip everyone who voted less than 100 and 200 or more thinking they would profit

[bitter lance]

technically don't make a loss if you voted anything between 100-150 too but yeah

[copper barn]

I literally lost all the rounds except the first 2

[tepid gull]

well you didn't win those either, technically

losing money isn't winning

[golden vessel]

Was there a strategy to this?

[wary shard]

Assuming there is no befuddlement going on, then that one is going to my grave.

[orchid niche]

so I lose some mora if I voted 200?

[regal zinc]

Yes

[orchid niche]

[jaunty stone]

You will gain 30 profit.

[tepid gull]

you don't, you just make less profit

[regal zinc]

Ah yes

[jaunty stone]

Or less than that, depends.

[orchid niche]

aight fuck I shouldn't have done that

[undone kayak]

Nope, you’ll have 200, (200 x .5) + 100 = 200

[copper barn]

yea I can’t read equations probably I should really rethink my mora decisions next time

[undone kayak]

You didn’t earn or lose

[orchid niche]

welp guess I just get my mora back then

[jaunty stone]

No. You will definitely gain. Just around 30ish Mora.

[orchid niche]

then wuts up with the extra prize-

[copper barn]

I think the xtra prize is for the final round

[tepid gull]

you just omitted the first part

[uneven jungle]

I feel this

[undone kayak]

If didn’t matter considering how badly hmmm lost

[tepid gull]

200*400/23000

[copper barn]

So if u pick the correct emote (aka ) you get an additional mora since it’s the last round

[orchid niche]

Literally me doing random bets without knowing what math is

[wicked quest]

It's still finalizing

[undone kayak]

If one wins by a landslide, everyone loses

[copper barn]

Lmao me in a nutshell

[bitter lance]

oh weit no it's something like 100-200 assuming the worst

[jaunty stone]

Hm.

[orchid niche]

I feel u

[regal zinc]

My brain..

[tepid gull]

3 mora

[undone kayak]

Unless if there’s the bonus prize ofc

[orchid niche]

Can't even do algebra let alone a fucking ratio

[copper barn]

I feel u I merely passed my maths exam in the 50s percent

[orchid niche]

fucking got 85 final grade in math report card btw

[tepid gull]

👁️ 👁️

[golden vessel]

Lucky u

[tepid gull]

I mean you're just telling yourself that you don't get it without even trying to get it

[copper barn]

Ikr 85 is pretty good

[orchid niche]

bruh what- that's literally the lowest in my country- frikin gets bullied when my grade is down from 89 to 70

[golden vessel]

But 85 is good

[orchid niche]

Laughs at the bullies with my 95 english final grade

[tepid gull]

Asia?

[copper barn]

lmao whattt literally we have to pass 50 and we’re good unless u have Asian parents then 90+

[orchid niche]

Well anyways I dont really care bout grades as long as I learned something

[golden vessel]

Same

[jaunty stone]

Listen, if you voted exactly 100 during this round, you will get back 168. That's a 68 profit. In the case of 200, a 3 Mora profit.

[orchid niche]

me asian but fucking down to 90

[golden vessel]

I laugh at bullies with my superior broken english

[orchid niche]

I always see that slipper flying and getting my ear pinched

[copper barn]

Me at 50 and Asian:

[orchid niche]

[wheat jetty]

That’s a loss, it ain’t 169

[golden vessel]

I'm asian and as long I get above 80 I'm fine

[tepid gull]

most people don't even try. they simply convince themselves that they're dumb. 👁️ 👁️

[copper barn]

cries in 60-70 scores and is expected to get 80+

[orchid niche]

yea dont mind me getting fucking 85 in my art final grade even though I put efforts on it

[golden vessel]

I didn't say I get above 80

[jaunty stone]

I am fine with my current scores, I don't want to try harder than that. I am too lazy.

[orchid niche]

yes my mom always gets the slipper flying and pinch my ear then tells me to go back to kinder

[copper barn]

I don’t blame u I blame ur teacher

[orchid niche]

totally agree. FRIKIN I WASTED A WHOLE WEEK TO MAKE A 3D MODEL AND JUST GAVE ME A SHIT 85 SCORE LIKE BRUH WHAT

[gloomy elbow]

My mom got mad at me since I got tired in the 4th grading and got 96 average grade of all gradings 💀

[orchid niche]

mom laughed at me

[golden vessel]

What a coincidence I get 85 at art too even tho I put alot of effort

[wicked quest]

Tf

[vivid dock]

mine never good at art but get 96

[wicked quest]

Lucky af

[golden vessel]

Did she expect you to get 100 or something?

[vivid dock]

~~nah i'm joking I'm not schooling anymore

[wicked quest]

I see

[orchid niche]

Bro fr can't my parents just understand that I literally learn nothing in school and learn so many things with google?

[pseudo fox]

why do parents like this exist...

[orchid niche]

that's literal common in asian

[vivid dock]

are u asian?

[stuck belfry]

Wth 96 final grade is already so high

[gloomy elbow]

Yes

[pseudo fox]

as long as I get 90+ my parents will be proud

[vivid dock]

ahaha no wonder
as expected

[golden vessel]

96 average is high even by asian standards

[stuck belfry]

True

[orchid niche]

totally agree like bro frikin I never got a high grade like that since kinder to high school

[jaunty stone]

My parents don't even check my scores cuz they know I will always get straight As, but bought my older sister a darn cake cuz she managed to not get a single E. My life is a lie.

[golden vessel]

Damn, straight A's

[stuck belfry]

Just doing ur best is enough tbh, why need to be mad

[orchid niche]

pls I can't even frikin pay some enrollment shit

[vivid dock]

nah, the main point is Parents sometimes never satisfied with any result you get.
you better know what things that can get attention from your parents

[golden vessel]

I sense favoritism

[jaunty stone]

Who said im doing my best. I'm lazy as heck. I just have the power of last minute panicking.

[orchid niche]

I already know lol she'd get in a good mood if I compliment her cooking skillz

that'd be pog ngl

[stuck belfry]

Lmfaooo same

[golden vessel]

No school in discord pls, it's my escape from reality

[jaunty stone]

Reality is often disappointing. You can't escape education.

Unfortunately. OTL

[orchid niche]

I think he meant like help do assignments and projects- find helps from discord friends

[golden vessel]

Ooh, I didn't even think of that

I thought you meant school channel

[orchid niche]

Tbh I learn mostly everything from google and some games than school

[fringe flame]

yo

[orchid niche]

I literally don't understand all of my teacher's formality and talking like a frikin professional and cant understand a single word

[jaunty stone]

Ah yes. Please drink your dihydrogen oxide, as during the absense of the compound, a very peculiar reaction occurs where a tall child appears at your window, demanding you to hydrate and take care of yourself or they will make you.

Very peculiar, indeed. 🤔

[umbral tartan]

that happened to me more times than i can count, it's scary

[orchid niche]

lmao

[golden vessel]

Lol

[wicked quest]

It's still finalizing

[orchid niche]

bro wuts taking paimon so long to finalize-

[jaunty stone]

Also sleep is good for the skin, so go do that as well. Just like I am about to do. Adios peoples. ^^

[wicked quest]

Imma eat dinner while waiting

[orchid niche]

gud night!!!

[golden vessel]

Paimon has suffered paimonial meltdown

[orchid niche]

eat well!

[copper barn]

Literally my teachers speak to me like I’m 50 years old and smart at the subject and they give me the exam knowing that I don’t know half of the info because they explain it horribly and then I get a bad score even if I tried putting effort into it

[orchid niche]

literally me

Bro istg teachers also tend to PURPOSELY change the frikin topic of the test and literally none of it was the one we learned

[copper barn]

Paimon’s busy in the hot pot smh

[copper barn]

And they say the test is everything we learnt like only half of the test is topics that we’ve learnt but the rest of it is just guessing

[orchid niche]

ye fr fr like "What is orange? Fruit or color?"

[wary shard]

Yes

[golden vessel]

It's a vegetable

[orchid niche]

[orchid niche]

big brain moment here

[copper barn]

Okay fr though it’s finalizing rlly long omg

[orchid niche]

im getting my excited beyond limits and bouta burst my head off

[copper barn]

[orchid niche]

that is creepy

[copper barn]

lol it’s pewdiepie

[orchid niche]

still creepi

Let alone do that with Albert FLamingo's face

[golden vessel]

Creepypie

[copper barn]

[orchid niche]

looks like chad squidward but different skintone

Aight frik knew it

[wicked quest]

It's not finalized yet?

[orchid niche]

ye

[golden vessel]

Lol

[orchid niche]

help im having trouble tryna draw a crystal

[golden vessel]

Crystal? Genesis crystal?

[orchid niche]

any crystal

[golden vessel]

[bitter lance]

[golden vessel]

[wicked quest]

Wtf it's still finalizing

[orchid niche]

prob cuz many users voted

[wicked quest]

Yeah maybe

[stuck belfry]

[copper barn]

At this point it may never finalize

[tepid gull]

rip

[bitter lance]

scammed out of 100 mora

[marble raven]

we broke the bot and the economy

truly a bruh moment

[golden vessel]

It's still finalizing?

[elfin nest]

now that is a moment

[final gorge]

well ponpon isn’t online

[white yacht]

We cant vote already?

[full granite]

cant

[white yacht]

;-;

[marble raven]

:TeriCry:

[river bluff]

How to earn 10000 mora fast? UwU

[bright epoch]

Le cry in 🐳

[white yacht]

be morax

[river bluff]

May be Childe can help me?

[elfin nest]

checking time Ah yes another 2 hours

[safe knoll]

morax is poor XD

[eager coral]

ponpon snatched our mora then leave

[white yacht]

but u can create it sooo ヘ(￣ω￣ヘ)

[safe knoll]

rob the bank lmao

[mint sage]

Kindly ask a mod to abuse their perms

[river bluff]

I dont think they will

[mint sage]

They have so

[glacial briar]

I think paimon is dead guys

[mint sage]

And so is ponpon

[steel hill]

The instructions say 5th aug to 12th but were already at the finals. Will there be another one?

[safe knoll]

whos ponpon

[eager coral]

nopnop

[marble raven]

i think there's 2 KO rounds each KO rounds containing 8 matches

[white yacht]

Is that kind of bonbon candy XD

[eager coral]

the one who created le bot bruh

[white yacht]

Aa, her name actually sounds interesting, thx for info

[fast glen]

I got the Mora

52 profit

[gloomy elbow]

FINALLY

[stuck belfry]

Ayoo finally

[daring dagger]

for how long was it finalizing?

[gloomy elbow]

An hour and a half I think idk

Yep

An hour

and a half

[golden vessel]

I got -14 mora profit

[daring dagger]

ah alright, not too long then

[stuck belfry]

Rip

[copper barn]

I had 35 now I have 32, I’m literally dying rn

[golden vessel]

I had 40 and have 26 now

[copper barn]

and I thought I would get 100+ when this game ended

[orchid niche]

got 246

[copper barn]

[orchid niche]

[golden vessel]

As profit or total?

[umbral tartan]

oh, apparently i got 52 profit

[orchid niche]

total lmao got 46 profit

[golden vessel]

Ah oki

[orchid niche]

atleast I got my mora back

[copper barn]

ah, I guess I lost a lot of mora during this game

[umbral tartan]

i think i got more than what i lost the first 2 rounds, i think it was 35 or something

[golden vessel]

I'm grateful that daily checkin exist

[orchid niche]

lol

[umbral tartan]

well i spent 35, i dont know how much i lost

[copper barn]

I’m grateful that 1.2x bonus exists

[stuck belfry]

Got 83 profit lol

[golden vessel]

Tru

[orchid niche]

should spend 100-150 though it is a gamble and its 50/50 u'll lose and win

[safe knoll]

WAIT WHERES THE BONUS 100 MORA

[copper barn]

one day I will buy merch

[orchid niche]

split into pieces for every people

[safe knoll]

WTFFF

[golden vessel]

If you bet less than 100 u Don't get it

[orchid niche]

remember the 1mil primo giveaway?

[golden vessel]

1 bil

[umbral tartan]

how much above 100 is it safe to spend and still profit

[copper barn]

I didn’t even enter

[safe knoll]

ALR I WANNA DIE

[orchid niche]

oh but still splitted into pieces for us lmfao

[marble raven]

just 100 until 200

[golden vessel]

And we got like 100 each

[orchid niche]

u shouldn't cuz I only got 120 or sum

[stuck belfry]

Check the rewarding equation

[safe knoll]

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE BIGGEST SCAm EVER SMH

[orchid niche]

lmao

[copper barn]

If u pay higher than 100 > 100

[umbral tartan]

you overestimate my brain's ability to function

[safe knoll]

HONESTLY JUST gO buy the merCH AT genshin.shop

[marble raven]

bruh i remember most people only got like 12 💀

[orchid niche]

me who is broke and only relying to mora

[safe knoll]

ill buy for you if you buy for me XD

[golden vessel]

Nah, you and I just smol brained at the wrong place and time

[orchid niche]

seems 50/50

[copper barn]

exactly me bc free merch just wasting your life time on discord

[safe knoll]

LMAO SO TRUE

[copper barn]

I knew about this rule but I couldn’t do it because I only had 35 mora anyways

[golden vessel]

I want morax dwagon pillow

[umbral tartan]

im just going with what everyone here is saying, im not smart to figure it out by myself

[orchid niche]

I literally need a chongyun plushie

[copper barn]

75 000

[golden vessel]

Tbh, it's easier to commission a local doll/pillow maker to make it

[umbral tartan]

what if i have nothing of the sort near me

[safe knoll]

i just want a keychain 😢

[copper barn]

Basically me

[golden vessel]

Then that's on u bud

[copper barn]

Anyways I’m going to go to sleep and cry about my mora loss from 200 to 32 goodbye

[safe knoll]

how did u lose so much

[orchid niche]

hope you'll dream of getting 1mil mora

[copper barn]

I lost all the rounds except the 1st 2 and my dumba$s spent 75 on the wrong ones

[copper barn]

Ty

[orchid niche]

[safe knoll]

the strat is to wait until the end and see whos voting what

[golden vessel]

No, don't dream about it, you'll be devastated when you woke up

[orchid niche]

aight frik im off to sleep too

[copper barn]

most of the rounds were at 4am ):

[orchid niche]

ya'll gn stay safe and cyaaa and hope u got 1mil mora

[copper barn]

Every dream I wake up to I’m always devastated ))):

[safe knoll]

after i graduate from college ima just buy the whole shop XD

[copper barn]

Wait I phased it wrong I meant I hate waking up during a good dream

[golden vessel]

I'm usually happy when I wake up

Cuz I tend to have nightmares often

[copper barn]

I end up waking up in the mid of the night during a nightmare

[golden vessel]

Saaame

[copper barn]

anyways aa gtg sleep frfr I have essay tmr ):

[umbral tartan]

wonder what's the last time i had a nightmare

[full granite]

next round when

[lethal sphinx]

I just realized my mora decrease

Kovote 45 return with 23

[marble raven]

yeah, if you look at the equation in #869142152893038602 you got the 50%*B

[tall lotus]

42 mora profits XD

[lethal sphinx]

-22 mora from voting in the final round🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♀️

I didn't read u get D if B≥D

[tall lotus]

If you use 100 mora you will get 150

[tall lotus]

How sad

[lethal sphinx]

Too blind to realize🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♀️

[tall lotus]

Event isnt over

Just like me I should use 100 mora but I accidentally use 120 mora that was big mistake lol

[lethal sphinx]

Oh I jz realized thanks for telling me

[lethal sphinx]

Because too many people voted?

[tall lotus]

Yes if I spend 100 I will get 50 mora profits = 150 mora

[hushed thistle]

Hello gamblers, just wanna tell please don't dm me about knockout (─‿‿─)
I will participate in the end for fun~

[sand arrow]

[tall lotus]

No one stop can you

Do what you want lmao

[celest canyon]

Hey can someone tell me why I didn't get 100 mora even though it spend more than 100 mora

[sand arrow]

You only actually get 50 ish in total from the rewards

[celest canyon]

How does the math work

[full granite]

[fast glen]

0.5 X B + D(if B >= D)
There's another part, but that one is near zero in KleeReee vs Hmmm
B is the mora you bet
D is extra prize (100)

[celest canyon]

That's sad

Thanks

Still got lesser than 100

[fast glen]

Yup, the highest profit is 50~

[celest canyon]

Paimon scam us

[fast glen]

When you bet 100 = 50 + 100 - 100

[celest canyon]

Sad

[fast glen]

Math, it's all about the math

[celest canyon]

Damn I bad at math

[fast glen]

Don't worry, only the final round require math
And normally peeps here will do it

[celest canyon]

Ok

[marble raven]

voting channel locked kekw
anyway see ya'll next final round

[smoky nacelle]

does anyone know why knockout is locked?

[eager coral]

reject #knockout-cmds
return to #869129540369281054

[fast glen]

Probably to prevent people from using the commands when there is no KO voting

[tepid gull]

👁️ 👁️

[steel hill]

Probs cause people kept using it instead of #bot-playground

[umbral tartan]

yeah whats up with that

[daring sail]

Waitttttt... I had like, 200 mora before I vote, and I didn’t loose any, but now only 106 mora?

What is the use of knockouts then, it’s not giveing me any mora

[celest canyon]

how much did you vote

[pseudo moon]

Hm, interesting. Wdym by that?

[echo stag]

When new chracters will add in standard wish?🥲

[pseudo moon]

This is not the channel for that xD

[marble raven]

sorry for stalking you but in your history you voted for raiden gasm which lost actually

ah well, sorry for your loss, i guess

[daring sail]

Oop I did oop

😫

[pseudo moon]

Btw, if the winning side's mora isn't 2x of the losing side, then the winning side will also be getting back less than they spent.

[smoky nacelle]

Yes

[daring sail]

awww

ill stop doing this now.... no use to do this knockout thing.... imma just do my checkins...

[final gorge]

u should have voted on kleereee

[pseudo moon]

There's ways to profit, you just need to know how tbh.

Such as voting 100 on kleereee in the final round cause that would have given you 50 profit.

[tall lotus]

where are emojis?

But I like one mora more than pepe hmmm

[marble raven]

nice opinion but unfortunately the whole server likes capitalism

[tall lotus]

sigh

[sand arrow]

it was never an emote event

it was a mora event all along

[celest canyon]

ngl the emotes this round kinda sucked
many super overused already

[shrewd canopy]

yeah…

[marble raven]

well the server needed at least another emote other than mora, and choosing generic ones are one of the options
you're right though. they should do an emote contest (just like the banner one with maybe slightly different systems or else, just not this capitalism voting game). either they're just testing knockout bot or they're afraid of an economic downturn haha

[celest canyon]

when i saw the event before it started i thought it was gonna be a drawing contest and we vote people out so it was kinda underwhelming when i saw the choices

[sand arrow]

They probably will have one in the future

Or alternatively you could pay Mora to choose one

The server banner contest just finished so I don't think they wanted to do another art contest so soon

[rancid whale]

knockout is great for my wallet.

[celest canyon]

OUR wallet

wink wink

[marsh finch]

Yes our

[sly pivot]

[stiff mango]

I forgot to vote for the finale :(

[sly pivot]

F

[faint imp]

I didn't got anything

[sly pivot]

lol

[hard sail]

Me too aaaaa

At least they are running another round

That should be fun

[stiff mango]

yeah!

[sand arrow]

8 more rounds yay

[tame bronze]

yay

[sly pivot]

yay sleep schedule :))

[faint imp]

I remembered I voted on Kleeree once

[celest canyon]

f

[rancid whale]

knockout is great, I doubled my initial mora (･ิω･ิ)

[karmic grove]

[celest canyon]

[karmic grove]

[stable surge]

[solemn gale]

[edgy trellis]

[north dune]

[graceful mason]

[fickle lake]

Hi

don't read my discord username

[still moth]

Whats your channel name

[fickle lake]

Again son

don't read my username

[still moth]

Where is your channel

[fickle lake]

Press at my pfp

I warned you son

[still moth]

I am stopping here

[tired peak]

then i wont

[still moth]

Hahaha

Nobody knows

[fickle lake]

xD

[wary shard]

Genshin server be like: nothing too suggestive please!
Also genshin server: raiden-gasm

[sonic hedge]

ikr it's so weird

[twilit helm]

[golden vessel]

[shrewd zealot]

Raidengasm should have won tho

[pseudo moon]

Not really, it's too good to win.

[tall lotus]

E

[sinful thunder]

ª

[solemn gale]

ⓢⓟⓞⓡⓣ

[sand arrow]

[still moth]

Ganyu cute

[jaunty stone]

Ooo I like our options.

[still moth]

Must win

[golden vessel]

Which should I vote to get

[smoky nacelle]

paimon

[still moth]

Currently paimon is winning

[smoky nacelle]

you will get more if vote for paimon

[brisk folio]

Paimon

[solemn gale]

[celest canyon]

mfw i got slowmoded

[golden vessel]

But ganyu has 0, that means I lose mora I think

[solemn gale]

It has 1 now though

[still moth]

True maybe just wait for the next final round for guaranteed profit

[wheat jetty]

if you're thinking about mora, voting none will gain the most

[celest canyon]

stonks

[still moth]

But I like gambling

[golden vessel]

This

[tight ice]

im voting for paimon

[celest canyon]

fuck it just flip a coin and whatever side it lands on vote them

[solemn gale]

[celest canyon]

gg ez

[tight ice]

bad idea cause ganuh has 0 mora

[distant bluff]

paimon emote the best

[celest canyon]

but its a funny idea

[tight ice]

true,, but i dont really wanna lose mora

[celest canyon]

got that copium babeyy

[solemn gale]

Boost the server and get more mora

[celest canyon]

lets face it we’re all too broke for that

[solemn gale]

[jaunty stone]

I guess Ganyuh is gonna win this, seeing as Paimon peek is being voted for atm.

[golden vessel]

Is it 1 mora = 1 vote or 1 user = 1 vote?

[solemn gale]

1 mora 1 vote i think

[jaunty stone]

1 mora is 1 vote.

100 Mora is 100 votes. And so on.

[spiral silo]

That surely breaks the balance

[golden vessel]

I see...

[karmic grove]

its intentional for fun

[gleaming slate]

I kinda hope the paimon one will win it’s so cute! But most likely it’s gonna get overturned

[umbral tartan]

i've learned my lesson, i'll just vote on the special round

[smoky nacelle]

nah we wont this time, we want the paimon emote

[gleaming slate]

We? Is there like a secret cult out there that overturns emotes?😅

[raw sapphire]

[celest canyon]

OUR mora

i love communism

[sly pivot]

i dont think so i think its just people acting on their own

[golden vessel]

Unless...

[distant bluff]

yeah, i think so too

[brisk folio]

It’s for the

[pseudo moon]

You heard nothing.

[golden vessel]

But I heard everything

[sand arrow]

[gleaming slate]

😅 alrighty then

[tepid gull]

what's the weenie role 👁️ 👁️

[sand arrow]

yes

you need to know the right people to get it

[celest canyon]

dude....

[sly pivot]

lol

[celest canyon]

hand over the weenie role

[golden vessel]

Give me weenie role pls, I'll give you 1 mora

[tight rain]

Nuts

[golden vessel]

I like nuts

[half ore]

I still can't tell if weenie is jean simp role or dys simp role

or maybe that's the whole point

[solemn gale]

I want fatui role

[sand arrow]

I wish you could pay mora for a custom role

not like I would use it cause merch

[pseudo moon]

Ye, spend mora on merch.

[floral fog]

\

[iron venture]

what’s this channel for?

[karmic grove]

[pseudo moon]

To stop us from doing math in #knockout-cmds

[iron venture]

I seee I see

[pseudo moon]

🏃

[fast glen]

This round voting is really slow 🤔

[graceful mason]

It started when a lot of NA is asleep

8:00 pm PST

So I assume this round wont have many votes, based on tbst

[solemn gale]

Eh, people just dont have anymore mora to vote

[jaunty stone]

or they are waiting for the last 4 minutes to go full ham.

[sand arrow]

some people think this event is over already

tbh they should've made some sort of announcement like

2nd bracket of knockout is starting

[smoky nacelle]

I think people are waiting for the overturners to overturn even though they wont since its too low

[verbal dawn]

i would vote for the ganyu one if it had a different name
like GanyuStare

[pseudo moon]

I mean, people didn't read the instructions xD

[golden vessel]

If I vote paimon, do I lose mora even when the emoji wins?

[sand arrow]

plug in some numbers to the formula

[golden vessel]

62

I can't math

[tepid gull]

you can you just don't want to

👁️ 👁️

[golden vessel]

May or may not be true but I'll ignore this

[tepid gull]

it is true

[golden vessel]

I just want someone else to do it for me

[tepid gull]

all you need to do is read, understand, plug in the numbers and calculate

[golden vessel]

[tepid gull]

do it yourself you lazy bum

[golden vessel]

Fine

[jaunty stone]

If the difference is this wide, then yes, you will lose mora.

[lethal sphinx]

Yes

[golden vessel]

Thanks

I'm grateful for people that don't force me to do math

[jaunty stone]

You can vote when/if people try to overthrow Paimon, in that case you can try to make sure it still wins, or you can just not vote and let it win anyway and get the emote you want without losing anything.

[lethal sphinx]

183.62/(1308+62) = 8 mora + 1/2.62=31
Total = 39 mora if u vote 62

[golden vessel]

So I lose 23 if I vote

[lethal sphinx]

For now yes😂

[golden vessel]

What if I vote 1? Do I get 0.7 mora?

[smoky nacelle]

no it rounds down

[jaunty stone]

Ya get none! 😄

[final gorge]

are y’all planning to vote ganyu in the last minute?

i want ganyu to win 😔

[fast glen]

What if we overturn the overturn 🤔

[final gorge]

wha—?

[jaunty stone]

You can fight for the one you like during the overturn, yes.

[final gorge]

BUT I WANT GANYU TO WIN ;_;

i dont want to vote paimon ;_;

[sand arrow]

I'm just gonna sleep for this round

[fast glen]

I will support you

[sand arrow]

seems boring

[final gorge]

okay nice how much mora you have

[fast glen]

I spent 1

[final gorge]

:((

[fast glen]

Pat

[final gorge]

so you’re not voting last minute?

where is the voting last minute army

[lethal sphinx]

Do u have enough mora to overturn

[final gorge]

i have 200 mora only ;_;

thats why i come here

[jaunty stone]

Haha. Do your best and find your companions and fight the war!

[fast glen]

Depend on how many people join in

[final gorge]

do you know the risk?

if there’s a lot we could lose mora

coz the voting is so slow

[lethal sphinx]

Do u want to sacrifice yourself?

So people that vote paimon gets more

[final gorge]

????? i want ganyu to win why would i let paimon win

[coarse glen]

vote last minute ig

[final gorge]

aka why would i sacrifice if ganyu wont win

[fast glen]

I see myself lose Mora unless I vote 1 Mora
I predict 5k on Ganyu and 1.5k on Paimon

[final gorge]

that’s so bad

😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

[sand arrow]

the participation in this event is at an alltime low

[smoky nacelle]

idk why

[sand arrow]

imagine if it has under 1k total votes someday

[fast glen]

I think cause most people got tired of being overturned

[hard sail]

Yeah probably

[sand arrow]

@high marten nice pfp

[fast glen]

Around 25k of Mora was lost in the 1st KO

[sand arrow]

that game is good

[fast glen]

Or gave to the winners anyway

[high marten]

thanks 😄

[final gorge]

any ganyu simps here

[sand arrow]

I like ganyu but more of a hutao/raiden simp

[hard sail]

I wouldnt say simp but I really want her

[fast glen]

Ganyu Main but I simp Raiden

[final gorge]

would you like to overturn the votes?

[hard sail]

Raiden just built diff 😍

[fast glen]

Nope, I did the math

[final gorge]

i’m ganyu main and i love ganyu

[fast glen]

If Ganyu goes beyond 3k vote
Assuming Paimon is 1.5k
Its all negative profit

[final gorge]

so you saw how much risk is there?

[hard sail]

I'm down to vote ganyu tho

[final gorge]

yeaaah the risk, that’s why if anyone is planning to vote last minute you should come out

[fast glen]

The math is
If winner is 2X more than loser, its all downhill from there

[final gorge]

and we can plan this better 🙏✨

[hard sail]

I can't vote last minute but I'm happy to vote ganyu i prefer that emote

[final gorge]

i have 200 mora i can vote less to lessen the risk

[fast glen]

I think vote 1 Mora for now

And see how much overturn vote there is

[half ore]

If people try to overturn for Ganyu tho, people can then reverse overturn for Paimon, since the people overturning for Ganyu can't put in very much or they'd go over, but then people for Paimon would have more room to vote...

[fast glen]

Yup
We have a chance to overturn the overturn

[final gorge]

i will cry i just want ganyu to win 😔

please make ganyu win people planning to overturn.

[half ore]

but then if that happens, people can then reverse reverse overturn for Ganyu if they have enough mora to defend their overturn and not enough people reverse for Paimon...

[solemn gale]

Emergency food first

[half ore]

but then they can also reverse reverse reverse overturn....

[final gorge]

overturn overturn overturn

[half ore]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[final gorge]

😵‍💫

[fast glen]

Hmm

Mostly likely scenario is 3 overturn. Anything more than that the time is probably out

[frosty meteor]

to vote or not to vote

[half ore]

true, time is a problem

[jaunty stone]

🍿

[fast glen]

Viene, there is a way to make Ganyu win and stop overturn

[final gorge]

what

[fast glen]

If you can somehow make lots of people realize if Ganyu get over 3k votes, no profit

Then not a lot of people will risk it

[hard sail]

Ima vote ganyu

[final gorge]

but people don’t read somehow ;_;

[fast glen]

3.2k now, cause Paimon 1.6k

[final gorge]

like uh i remember people overturning

[frosty meteor]

i dont think last minute voters really read anything that happens here

[final gorge]

and everyone was commenting in knockout cmds everyone stop

[smoky nacelle]

But theres an issue, people dont read, they just vote

[final gorge]

coz u will lose mora

[fast glen]

Even during the 100 Mora final round?

Like people voted more than 100?

[smoky nacelle]

Yup, they just went so they earn

[final gorge]

yeah a lot

[smoky nacelle]

Even though they dont

[fast glen]

Smh

[small river]

alright rich people who yalls votin

[hard sail]

LOL

[final gorge]

ganyu

but i have only 200 mora so im not rich

[hard sail]

I put 10 on ganyu

[final gorge]

nice

[small river]

i placed 100 on klee when she lost fr overturn

so im out of the rich squad

[hard sail]

Dang

[final gorge]

damn 1st round?

[hard sail]

At least these emotes are non nitro

[fast glen]

1st round was a scam
Everyone lost so badly

[solemn gale]

[elfin nest]

any oil princes here

[sand arrow]

Only morax

[marble raven]

huh its been 4 hours but there's only 1.7k spend for the votes

[sand arrow]

Sleep on it

[marble raven]

😴

[gleaming slate]

It will most likely start going crazy in the last few mins

[solemn gale]

Maybe

[jaunty stone]

Get that Ganyu! ^^

[frosty meteor]

i dont think they're gonna overturn this round

[final gorge]

i hope not pls dont get crazy

[frosty meteor]

sorry viene we're not getting ganyu

[final gorge]

noooo 😥

[marble raven]

paimon peek is a better emoji tbf

[final gorge]

what? ganyu is better tbh

[gleaming slate]

Most likely unavoidable, for those to either overturn or those who loom and vote last minute

[final gorge]

for me ganyu emoji is cuter

[frosty meteor]

i dont think last minute overturn is gonna be worth the profits

[small sequoia]

ppl are getting smarter now?

3 hours left and it's only 1,9k votes

[frosty meteor]

or maybe they didn't realise the event is still happening

[small sequoia]

yeah after the first phase, they thought it was over

[iron venture]

how much money do you think people will get back?

[small sequoia]

you mean this round?

[iron venture]

yep

[jaunty stone]

Paimon peek is adorable, apparently.

[small river]

alright rich people are we turning over

[smoky nacelle]

no

[burnt panther]

do you not get mora if your voted emoji wins?

[small river]

ok ill sleep in peace

[smoky nacelle]

how much mora do you even have?

[small river]

im poor from last round

[jaunty stone]

Depends. If the difference is too large, you will lose mora, even if you win.

[burnt panther]

i see, thank you

[marble raven]

well we dont have a nitro free peek emoji

[jaunty stone]

If PaimonPeek wins with this rate, you might get 25 mora back, at least.

Gambling do be like that.

[marble raven]

with only 2k votes im afraid if there's going to be turning tables

so i just wont vote this round, not even 1 mora kekw

[fickle lake]

Good morning

[marble raven]

might join last minute tho to see if it gets interesting

[small sequoia]

its last second vote now

[final gorge]

if it gets interesting later, more than 4k votes will make it a loss for everyone

[fast glen]

Oh no, even if Paimon win there’s 0 profit and you lose money too

[marble raven]

since people has 300 mora per person now, it literally only going to take 6 person to overturn this vote

[fast glen]

But if the overturn got overturned 🤔

[marble raven]

then its just last second hope

everybody going to all in so they dont make a net negative in bank kekw

[frosty meteor]

overturners are only gonna have losses

[solemn gale]

[frosty meteor]

it's too risky

[fast glen]

As long as overturn don’t go over 2X losing side you get profit

In the past, we have like 5k so it’s hard to go over the value, rn it’s 2k
Too risky

[fast glen]

Especially if they don’t read the messages here or do the math

[marble raven]

well then i wont participate in the vote either way

[small sequoia]

I'm gonna vote last 3 secs

[marble raven]

then do a typo kekw

[solemn gale]

Copy paste ez

[small sequoia]

the typo either saves me or wins me profit

[stiff mango]

every time I look at previous round results and I see the grey, it triggers me

[small river]

same

[stiff mango]

thanks for making me feel less lonely xD

[small river]

salty over my lost mora

[stiff mango]

ah ah yeah... I know the feeling

[sharp cobalt]

The fuck y'all doin Ganyu is losing

[pseudo moon]

PaimonPeek cuter.

[solemn gale]

[small sequoia]

Yall get ganyu nsfw body pillow if she wins

[solemn gale]

[stuck belfry]

[sharp cobalt]

I voted 100, where?

[small sequoia]

https://bit.ly/3iDk1MB

[sharp cobalt]

[solemn gale]

Bruh, you fell for that?

[fast glen]

I voted 1 Mora, my house is at this coordinate pls ship there
40.8223286°N 96.7982002°W

[kind crow]

wait sad cat lost ??

[marble raven]

stickers!

[brisk folio]

So it’s better not to vote this round as if ganyuh votes is 2x more than paimon we still lose mora

[final gorge]

yep

[brisk folio]

Hiazzzz

[solemn gale]

[final gorge]

u cant just vote coz we dont know how many will vote

u might actually lose mora

[jaunty stone]

Not gonna lie tho, Paimon is cute. Why not leave this round and try for the next one?

[brisk folio]

Probably if those rich ppl just vote and then people think ‘ey can win mora’ then follow the hype train during the last few mins

[final gorge]

rip lol

[steel hill]

Aww so cute

It says bonus 0 mora does that mean if we vote this round then we will get no mora

[solemn gale]

­­­­

[marble raven]

yep, more importantly by voting in this round you will actually lose mora so dont do it

[serene pike]

what if I vote for ganyuh and it wins but is less than double the votes of paimon?

[golden vessel]

Then you profit

I think

[steel hill]

I voted on paimon many hours ago so if paimon wins this round i get nothing?

[plush tusk]

Not a lot at least, the formula is made to lose you mora if one side is overwhelming the other side in terms of the number of vote

[serene pike]

if paimon wins but the amount of votes for ganyuh doubled is more than the amount of votes for paimon(not doubled) then u profit

[stiff mango]

you never loose mora if you vote for the winner though

[steel hill]

I don’t understand

[serene pike]

No u will

rn if u vote for paimon and it wins u lose 50% of ur mora

because ganyu’s votes doubled isnt more than paimon’s votes so u don’t get profit

[solemn gale]

So basically 5:4 profit
but 5:1 no profit

[serene pike]

yep

[plush tusk]

The formula is right in the #869142152893038602, basically don't vote on the winning side if it's number of vote is more than than the double of the losing side, if you want to win some mora

edit: this rule only cover the case when there is no extra prize, it's quite different when having extra prize

[final gorge]

u will get back 50% mora

[formal niche]

So its not worth investing this round?

[elfin nest]

its about time to take ganyUh to da mooon

[fast glen]

If you can hype Ganyu over 3k but under 6k

[plush tusk]

no, unless there's a huge wave of vote that knock over paimon (if you vote for ganyu) OR ganyu vote is close to paimon vote (if you vote for paimon)

[final gorge]

they said if paimon wins

[fast glen]

The 0.5 X B part

11 mins left

[solemn gale]

No mora left

[fast glen]

10 mins left and no sign of overturn

[solemn gale]

Paimon > ganyu

[formal niche]

Its paimonpeek without spacing

[steel hill]

Maybe spelling it wrong copy someone elses

[hard wren]

Yeah i mistyped

I spent like 3 minutes to figure out what was wrong

[brisk folio]

Hmmmmm 5 mins left still no wave

[fast glen]

Rip my 1

[wind valley]

it started

[brisk folio]

Oh no

[steel hill]

You spoke to soon

[copper barn]

overturn 👀

[formal niche]

Probs overturn too late

[brisk folio]

Hmmmm vote or no vote

[copper barn]

Can they do it

[solemn gale]

[fast glen]

I only see 3 peeps

[brisk folio]

Not really

[copper barn]

yeah I don’t think so

[polar steppe]

There wont be one ig.

[copper barn]

unless it’s spam fest

[wind valley]

are you sure about that

[fast glen]

Well they successfully help Paimon profit

[copper barn]

did y’all vote yet?

[fast glen]

Nope

[brisk folio]

I see lots of ppl typing may they legit be stalling till final seconds

[final gorge]

nope

[fast glen]

I have 450 but not enough

[copper barn]

same prob gonna vote last 30 secs

[steel hill]

I did hours ago

[brisk folio]

Here it comes

[copper barn]

If it actually overturns ima be shook

[compact reef]

[plush tusk]

1min is a bit short to get over 2k vote imo, rip

[fast glen]

It is!

[formal niche]

Rip ganyuh

[brisk folio]

Oh here it’s comes

[copper barn]

yea true

[brisk folio]

Hahahaha

[fast glen]

I just threw in 450 Mora

[brisk folio]

Noceeeee

[plush tusk]

Damn

[fast glen]

Noooo

[copper barn]

LETS GOOO OVERTURN

[fast glen]

We went overboard

[brisk folio]

Woooooo

[solemn gale]

Rip i mistype

[formal niche]

Nooo im too late

[elfin nest]

ahahaha

[final gorge]

you are the reason

[steel hill]

…

[fast glen]

Dear God pls don't go over 6k

[celest canyon]

DONT VOTE ANYMORE WE'RE GONNA LOSE PROFIT

[serene pike]

it’s alr over =_=

[elfin nest]

its over already lmao

[gray crescent]

I made a typo F

[fast glen]

It was 3.5k when I voted qwqqqq

[celest canyon]

greedy people dumped in everything TOT

[plush tusk]

the vote is closed anyway