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yes, fav over twilight
if itâs r1 fav no, twilight better
yeah, now that I have seen 144 fps on that game, I do totally accept the risk
my fav bow r2
I have spent thousands of hours in this game
who made that poll?
Polled for Yelan users on gamespot
gamespot. . interesting
whats gamespot
well i wouldnât use fav if it isnât r5 but thatâs just me because i prefer dmg
oh, Ayato does 18 sword attacks with his E as well, that's probably the most "banneable" thing
itâs like ign
I'm still trying to find the exact comparison video, but not able to find it in my YT history. It's pretty unanimous though that Fav R0 is better than Twilight
would sac bow be better?
not really
alr
true
no getting 2 eâs are good for more energy
and more consistent dps
1 E is like 10 sec cd so having 2 from sac is very useful
hmm, at least that was my experience with my R2 sac bow lol
fav is very good for emblem of fate build, best for 4 stars for emblem of fate for yelan
oof r2, ya r5 preferably
r1 fav > r1 sac
Agreed
I don't have emblem of severed fate on her though, I don't have any HP sands lol
xd
i had to work with my artifacts too~ sad rng so i ended up with lots of hp% on substat
ah, c6 yelan I see
yep my queen~ also r5 uwu
are you running c0 yelan with fav?
holy
nope, with fading twilight lol. Favonius is like R2 as well
I regret burning all of them previously
ya if you could get a good emblem set, swapping to fav would be good
pre AR50 mistakes lol
yep most are gone
Not even talking about the passive proc, but at r1 fav bow doesn't align with yelan, you need at least r3 if you want to use the passive every rotation... In this case the new bow is better even if it has like 30% less er
Hell i don't recomend using fav or sac if it isn't at least r3 in most cases
250cv
Who needs set bonus anyway
we dont talk about that
If only we had a crit stat
I got xiao at fifty pity : D
Finally my ganyu build is complete 
who you melting ganyu with
Xiangling and benny
that's a neat build
qiqi playing drum
(got this btw)
almost reached my goal
why staff of homa
because i don't have pjws
Small W for new player like me but just hit AR40! Woop woop
I want to ask you a question of why you want to upgrade that
Boredom
The day we are going to get an hp scaling claimore that weapon is gonns be really insane
24% bonus damage for free if you have a shield, 41% hp as substat
Its a shame the passive is on such a long cd
That is only for the shield but yeah
You can get the 24% bonus even if the shield is from zhongli for example
attack stat
beat you by 1 cv 
Heres the build
anyways its a nuke build so i focused less on er 
THE BULLYING đ©đ©
There we go.
I'm using favonius and plan to build mine in a similar way. I saved this for refernce. Thanks
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And this is why u play music games on tablet
but i did this on my pc bro
C6 R5 now baby
Damn
she is now my second C6 R5, Raiden was my first
only do it to chars i REALLY enjoy and Yelan is just MMMM so fucking fun
Yeah i agree, Yelan is fun
Damn
How many of my xiao's artifacts would be considered good?
lets see the stats and artifacts 
gotchu
beware the tenacity pieces will give you trauma, and her ER LMAOO
lemme ss give me a sec @broken sphinx
that er is very problematic
ya think?
I run this
what set is that?
4 emblem
nice nice, yummy ratio
still farming...
whats your goal?

how do you even check that?
Just from comparing to other yelan stats and having a rough idea
Theres no way to officially check, not yet at least
I think my yelan is like top 5% at least tho
This is just from comparing to other stats that ive seen, and ive seen over 100 by now

And so far i only found 2 people who have better stats than me ok maybe 3
So larger sample size would be better but you work with what you can
And from the sample size you can get an idea whats considered avg and above avg
Pro Canorus 7/7 at 2x speed
ah i see, nice :) @broken sphinx keep on the grind brother
Oh yea i cant stand plying with slow speed, i play on 10.9 on bandori and psekai
Its a pain⊠havent gotten a good piece in ages, those pieces you see i got a long time ago
But i dont play bandori and psekai much cause i dont feel like trying to fc harder songs >.<
@twilit matrix hbu, what r ur goals
Im already ar60 so ive pretty much done everything i needed to, i just do teapot nowadays
C2 isnt that worth tbh id just get c0 and call it a day
but other then that atm, just get yelan up to a 60-70 to 260 plus w abit more ER
and i kinda already have a ton of wishes ready for when he arrives, theres no coming back
ive been wanting it for a while so im still gonna get it
you dont have to force 2piece tenacity bonus, you can do 2piece emblem or 2piece nob instead than getting hard copium on those pieces

here's what I have on her for reference, pretty decent if you ask me hehe

4pc emblem is her bis

Eula?
Hu tao
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Floor 7 tho
Depends on playstyle, IME. But generally yes.
i never said it wasn't
My highest in open world rn is 1mill on cryo regisvine.
Can probably hit like 1.1mill primogeovishap
Now you are disowned @visual bear

I just wanted to see the dmg height since this abyss disorder gives free resistance shred
This abyss buff is way too broken
Yeah I literally 36 star with duo 4 stars each side with ease...kinda too easy
I think my fischl talents are still lvl11 and random artifacts too
Only thing good about teapot is you can get primos
Dw im jk I've seen some fun things happen in teapots.
I wish they would add windtrace.
Then I would go ham
This hoe straight busted now.
@gilded fable This one will certainly fry a lot of enemies.
She's balanced in a way that makes her an easy swap to Ganyu Melt, too. Give her Catch + Rate hat she ends up at 303 EM, 69.5% CR, 120% Dmg, and 240% ER.
could be better đ„±
are these stats decent
ya
shes on 2pc nobles and 2pc emblem
Catch or what weapon?
dbane r1 rn
Really nice
thank you
time to play back Eula
try to use ttds in her team since your atk is low
yeah i use bennet with her, my bennet gives a lot of attack cause hes crowned with aquila
Itto bad Noelle free

if only that one roll didnât go into em
thats not too bad.. vaporize damage 
hu tao piece right there
A tale of 2 Taos.
A tale of 2 Shenhes.
how do you have time to farm two good sets wtf
tbf u just gotta farm the one and throw everything into strongbox until u get what u need
are the main/substat rates different in the strongbox
I've used the Strongbox almost exclusively for Noblesse and do Emblem more than any other domain. 
And I had Tao's CW set since long before Shim even existed.
are there any characters you guys absolutely hate
hate playing, hate the design, hate the personality, hate the lore, etc
Eula. 

If that were an Anemo goblet for Xiao, I'd cry tears of joy.
that moment your out of weapons to lvl and stacks keep getting bigger
lol i have the goblet but no Xiao for it
C6 Kazuha right there, my guy. 
jean stole him i have 100% for next 5 star so im waiting to get kazuha
First time try harding on abyss. Unfortunately floor 12 is kicking my ass
even have a r5 lvl 90 iron sting waiting for him
What do your teams look like?
lol was gonna ask the exact same thing cause you could just be setting your self up to fail
National and Noelle Zhongli team
What levels are they and whatâs your AR?
any venti kazuha or sucros any of those 3 for 10 and 11 will make them VASTLY eaiser
Ar55,
I even used Anemo Traveler although I donât recommend it, they do have some cc 
Yeah, floor 10 (sorry) was good. Esp for the claymore damage bonus. My national is built but too lazy to level them up to 80 rn
gotta remember get units to 70 to get there second passives like sword bro
Also have the only F2P Anemo shred in the game.
well venti u never wanna put above 70 its a WASTE cause if things out lvl him to much his ult will still CC but wont lift them off the ground
EM / Swirl scales on character level and 20 levels makes a huge difference.
Ah, so he's OK at 79 like rn? . I heard Swirl is dependent on level. Was planning to get him to 90 after I get Kazuha
true but then you can put shit to high into the air making ANY meeles unable to hit it
Any Melee?
Raiden hits it just fine.
Up to what level do you think sucrose should be leveled to?
my ayayto E and raiden miss OFTEN in domains i use venti cause there to high in the air
- Takes anyone that does a lot of swirling to 90. It's one of the more worth it 90s you can do.
im sorry missing main dps attacks WAY out range that swirl
Noelle hits when I'm in the overworld
How about just using him in comps he's compatible with instead of using him to save you from building good comps.
It's like not C6ing Benny.
cause lvl is still low
i use him for CC and making domains faster good units with him alot are meele based and can MISS
Nah, even when enemies are flying. Noelle just has an extremely large hit AOE
How much dmg do your Noelle hits do?
Such as 
im farming VV set kazuha wanna make a meme dps set watched only 2 of the 12 strikes of his E attack hit rest AIR
±10k in overworld right now. Has a bad def sands
whats her build can you moe it on over
I'm probably going to build subs dps Kazuha. I'm not having luck with EM mainstats in VV domain
And for Abyss you use Noelle, Zhongli, and who else ?
Somebody say Noelle? Not even in Husk4.
ya what was your abyss teams cause u said national without raiden OR kazuha need a cleaify there and what was full second team plox
I love Noelle and her gameplay. I mained her till ar 45, Sheâs just not competitive to use without a well built team and I donât have Gorou 
And without c6, I have her c1 too
She's the only GS I play. Running her with C6 Yunjin + (C Anything) Gorou changes everything.
lol well next banner hes there with new eletro ninja
The thing is Iâm guaranteed for and waiting for Kazuha. So it pains me to have to skip her this banner and next banner for Gorou, but I know if I spent like the 100 wishes Iâd have saved for Kazuha for Noelles team I might not even get them and Iâd end up with a 5 star I donât want
i mean itto is just a better noelle NGL
I'm not touching Itto's banner either. I'd love Gorou conts + Cookie but I won't risk Noodle Arms Mcgee.
i lost yalin 50/50 to jean so im 100% kazuha and i have 110 wish waiting kazuha WILL be mine
Hopefully heâs with Heizou too, will make farming for VV easier
Sadly that crit rate is too low 
use the flower to make up for that also NO home
See, I hate pieces like these that have one elemental stat but then the two piece bonus is for another element 
Why? lmao. All my best cups are offset.
Would you believe me if I said I have a goblet with 15% crit rate and that's still not enough? Granted it means I have to change others, but that's a hassle.
Had to use the bathroom rq
Bad feather and sands, not 20'd them until I get better pieces
Untrue. Itto has much more strict comps and rotations. Noelle shields, heals, and does dmg. She can also rotate the party during her burst.
Also since she uses NA and not CA you can run something like EC + Geo using Yelan, XQ, Fish, Beidou, etc.
If HoYoVerse got rid of those flat stats, there would be a lot less trash out there.
đ© a loooot less

flower and cirlet gotta get rid of that EM its a REALLY wasted stat on geo
This is true, her C6 means you can do a full rotation and still end up with Noelle's burst still active.

That's a fantastic piece.
my kinda piece
The other onset Geo Cup I had from Husk had 0CV. So... I'll take it.
is it weird this doesnt have a home
Snagged this the other day too.
The only Pyro cup I have has 0CV
My Bennet would give it a very nice home 
lol yomia holds my pyro set
Heyyyy, that looks like the one I gave to my Xiao.
lol i have this one on amber i keep forgetting to lvl
Yours is pretty good⊠butâŠ
It took me over 600 days to get this goddamn cup.
ya mine was stronk box lol never farmed noblesse in a LONG time
It would be less than half that to get anything if HoYoVerse actually made sensible decisions.
wdym? Shit drops are in their favor. Why would they ever make the grind easier? Especially when it's the ONLY THING TO DO AT AR60.
this one also to lvl just forgot i had it
Bruh how you just forget a double crit Elemental Cup? 
Because people might be incentivised to leave for that reason among other reasons?? Lack of good co-op, no replayability, events are rarely ever co-op, etc.
Oh I agree but they made over a billion dollars their first year alone. I don't think they care about retention rn.
its over a year in the game shits gonna get forgotten
They're shortsighted if they think that players will just stay.
The only reason I play is to improve my current team and play with a friend.
Sure. But when they start to lose players they can just make it easier then. rn they're still setting records for banners and shit. Plus 3.0 will bring a ton back.
Otherwise, there's literally no other thing you can do.
lol i forgot MANY by looks of it
Who awaits level 100 characters and grind? 
Bruh. The fuck. 
Farm. 
i get them lock them and move on some times cause u never know what your going to need
I more mean: I roll every single dual crit cup I get right away, basically. lmao
Same, so long as it has good mainstat.
i kinda just stack them i have 22 lvl 4 elemental goblets with double crits
nice piece
ill lvl them one day just once its full and i go on a massive box run again get more lock those forget repeat
i blame it on the sands cause me getting above 40 cv sands PAIN so goblets have never been my issue
I run my artifact inventory very lean ig. I have 234 + 20 arts and the rest is fodder atm. Total of 250 or so.
your higher then me im 214 +20 and solid 108 +4 locked so all are double crits or never locked
had to bring up the calculator make sure my math was not shit cause rolls of 9s is anoying
I guess I finally got to the point where I wasn't getting enough rollable arts to not just burn fodder into everything that was remotely useful. 
always plus 4 cause thats NOTHING in mats gets double crits or starts double crits lock them away and then move on
Oh for sure. I just roll them up right away and roll it into another if it's not based by 12-16. Different styles I suppose.
I have most of the cast leveled / useable so someone always needs an upgrade.
me its sands my best sands is only 42 averaging like 32 CV needs upgrades
yes only shit f2p ar 59 over a YEAR into a game gotta push those standards above the 30 cv into the 40 cv point
I end burning lots of gold pieces.
I've started sacking ~25CV stuff, yeah.
ive built every good unit and keep a few off sets on throw away toons like kaeya,lisa,sayu for others you know build for new units OR shit to come like my sayu has kazuha triple EM set up great stated already
You could just lock them
Yeah my Eula holds Tao's Shim/CW set (whichever she isn't using at the time). Chungus holds Shenhe's Noblesse set usually, too.
It's way easier to switch a full set of gear if it's on a placeholder. Locked or not.
I never thought to swap gear sets. I just have single setups.
Like Noelle is actually pretty good right now, having 2.2k attack and 2.3k defense.
So I don't plan to change her at all.
For instance: I use Tao's CW set when I'm playing Mona/Yelan/Zhong but use her Shim set when playing a VV comp with her.
dude its way easier and faster on the swaps and prepwork like a new unit that hasnt come out but u know what the bis sets gonna be you farm it place it on holder unit then that gives u a basicly a stat tracker for him crits EMs so on
That's why Diluc had on Yelan's gear. Wanted to see it with the CR ascension easier.
like triple EM set i have sitting on sayu is 70/172 with her using a ER weapon to not effect crits or EM and even with triple EM my kazuha is already gonna be STACKED
This is the most fucked up thing I've ever heard.
I need it.
its not perfect yet need to get flower/feather replacement they both rolled little high in crits wanna get the crit damage down and em to ATLEAST 1k
that will make up for me not being able to get his sig weapon
Your account sounds way too based, art wise.
I envy your RNG. lmao
lol 80/226 ayato 60/280 ganyu 80/230 ninng 70/160 full hp zhongli raiden is 68/174 still making her but catch giving extra crits messing with me
Jesus christ, my guy. 
ya im a focused guy i want ONE unit at a time built and its not done till i say its done and those are getting close to done
this is my sands issue just NOT LOVING ME legit ZERO hp sands from mil set
god damn it i wont be able to get the bp to lvl 50 today ;-;
Show builds
I mean. I feel ya. I tend to hyper focus on a character but I end up gearing others with the stuff that isn't up to par. Fun to see how people do things differently.
4 piece heart and his sig weapon close to perfect right now

Just show the artifacts as well as stats
o i gotta remake ayatos get a good meme pic for it
Ok i just looked at your profile, you dont have a 80/230 ganyu
ExplainâŠ

ya that old cause ayaka and shenhe are both 80
Its not old that was taken just now

Enka has up to date profiles
i can link a 80 shenhe AND ayaka pic fam they have been 80 for awhile well shenhe has
No we want to see the ganyu and ei you have
You said this, i saw nothing of this sort
because your looking atleast 6 plus month old units
R u saying enka is lying when it has up to date profiles?
i mean ayato was not even there w4 peice heart
and hes on my card him and ninng are only 2 on my card
I figured it was a cap but I didn't care enough to do the legwork. 
Enka updates profiles every 5 min so you are lying
well i linked it with MY tag you can check the stats
ok then explain the ayato i JUST SHOWED with my uid
Well this is you isnt it?
your failing at the most BASIC logic end here so either hoyo current is wrong of that sites out of date
OOF
this is YOUR uid isnt it? I looked it up
and now you are hiding them
dude if you are gonna flex actually busted builds, then actually show it then say it
and also i already proved that you were lying unless you saying enka is lying when we know this is your uid and that these were shown on YOUR profile showcase
it doesnt matter if you hide your chars when i already did the research
let me check this again
is this also your ning build
idk why you have to make up shit for your other chars, this is pretty good for stats on ning
if your not seeing this ganyu your MISSING ALOT
ok put it on your char profile so i can look at the artifacts myself
but wait a sec, that atk is really cope
ok i see it now
ya cause im not using her ALONE BB shes always with xangling or raiden
show your ei as well
as i said sands are my weakness
just show your 67/170 or whatever it is you claimed
68/174 you said with catch
yea im just waiting for your ei now
cause 68/174 is NOT something to be joking about, those are godtier stats if you DO have them
also you should just get every main dps to 90
unless you really are tight on resources
bro i didnt actually expect to get him in a single đ
68/160 174 may have been a old peice OR i swapped and forgot waiting for eurka to try and show it still
but i think its a diff piece cause i dont remember her ER being 252%
ya so unless i take them all off and reset it dont update weird but i got IT
i gotta search i think it was either eletro sands or attack sands over ER i gotta check
let the man lie in peace god damn it XD
SPF the FBI up in this biihh
Fr dude was like L shitting on light Yagami

aahhaahahahah fr
Holy crap nice...almost as good as mine tbh
guess eurka sorce for him is not good enough
fixed it to update and not not good enough evodince
@wild elm its okay your stats are great.
Perhaps not 100% as accurate as u said but close enough
Waiting to hear 'I don't do abyss cuz it's a waste of time'.
i gotta find it im thinkg that was her eletro cup/attack% sands and 232% er build that im convinced i tossed arounds cause this proved higher in dps
Me who clears floor 12 with duo 4 star characters in 6mins total.
but still building her will make her EVEN stronger

me who now has a crit positive build on Qiqi with over 3k unbuffed atk @ 80 
nope did the math this build is better lose on 10% crit damage for the 18% more eletro damage and more on weapon
so this is the accurate for current raiden unfinished
Congrats
2,400 damage how with no ATK artifact??
Erhem....R5 ENGULFING
Ngl that build has 6 more CV than me but I have 14% more ER.....which doesn't matter cuz the mf has r5 engulfing and c6
So basically like a 88% Atk stat I think
Nice build all round
r5 engulfing so jelly
If you're so jelly then swipe
dude with the weapon banner i would need to swipe like 4k plus
i would be the one stuck hitting having to refill every time
thats where my rng has gone she stole kazuha,yalin, and itto
copium childe build
i want shinbi but i dont wanna roll on itto knowing kazuha is soon and i have 100% chance for kazuha
3 flats of fun
same with feather too though its all crit damage no rate
Just đł
but that ruins the F2P flex
polar star carry
Then don't complain about being F2P 
lol thats the love i have for my childe
wish me luck didnt know i had this but DAMN gonna try
I had to make dinner
well u got proved wrong but GG fam
i mean off piece for goro or yun kin
I mean i only will judge whats on your profile so
If you dont have the proper setup then thats on you
Also if we are gonna be picky your ei isnt 68/174 like you claimed
But moving on
i mean there linked off eurka u can see for yourself
ya having to log off then on hit reset got ANOYING af tring to let that shit update
Idk about ps4 but for pc and mobile its pretty easy to login and log off
well issue was log off check if it updated NO had to log back on change something change it back relog was not with the PAIN
Ok now almost 90
but second miss hina WHEN are we getting her in game thats the real qestion
It always refreshes once you log out
After 5 min yes
Wtf
ya glad is where all my rng is too lol
Iâm the opposite I would kill for a good glad crit hat
oh right, this is my 2nd 40cv artifact
I got my first one 10 months ago
Wowww nice
I just got my first 50CV art the other day after 620 days. 
I have over a dozen
I donât have a 50 cv yet :((
My highest is 49.8 ;-;
It's okay don't get too excited. It was an HP hat. 
Mine was an atk sands 
This is my best atk sandsđ
I mean I've had a number of ~45CV arts for a minute. But a 50.6CV HP Hat was interesting. lmao
Ugh I want that for my yelan </3
Trying to make it work for her but rn Zhong has it.
Basically let me keep his Q dmg the same but gain ~5k HP. I'll take it.
Niceee
I want elegy for my yelan
Me fucking too, my dude.
I wanna casually bust out 150k+ Vape CAs. 
everyday im suffering from this wt strongbox for over half a year
just dogshit artifact after artifact
for all you wonder why this isnt worth leveling to +4, it has er and def which are useless for melt ganyu
Er is only good for ganyu if you want to use her as cryo application + burst support (for off field dmg)
notice how i said MELT ganyu
lmao made me think i got a 40cv feather 
Er is fairly beneficial for melt ganyu as you'll need cyro application for melt, and even tho her charged atks provide cyro ap, her burst will add more dps
always +4 it dont get crit rate its fodder for next one
Dont need it even if it lands cr
I want triple or quadruple useful substat
useful stat enjoyer 
i mean ER is useful all around
If i do want a better flower that is
honestly it's only worth leveling if it wasnt a minroll
but then u hit 4 7% plus crit damages making it 40cv plus
how about i just show you my ganyu and you will see why i fodder almost everything i get
i mean sure if you're that desperate 
flat def seems to like you
lowroll better than no roll amirite? 

anyways ive been malding in this strongbox for over half a year + not including the times i was farming for wt + wt strongbox before i was going for no pieces
you can see now why i say that flower is trash
strongbox has been fairly nice to me tbh got quite a bit of 40cv pieces
That's a vibe.
dude me not getting a skyward would be a MIRICLE lol
harp is just a stat stick for crit
The base atk is also nice. Don't be such a capper, my dude. lmao
140k Blooms is more than most people with Amos do. 
the passive isnt that useful for ganyu
So what? It's still over 60CV at R1. lmao.
only other option i would have is a r1 hamyaina or crescent but dps wise the skyward wins
It's all about stat balance / investment. Regardless of the weapon.
if i had it trust i would use it cause that would get me 2k attack and im already high in crit rate
83/225 in current build i could sack some crit rate pretty easy
i cant justify running a cr hat, my cd would be too low
what comp you using your ganyu in anyways? melt?
well tbf why run 4wt if it isnt melt 
yea if you go wt its melt
Just get a better hat smh.
ez
130k melts without vv btw
ya my hates for main crit D on set trash i think 11% crit rate is best
pretty sure i trashed all my wt hats by now 
if i had vv i could do more im pretty sure
well im still farming wt strongbox so... however long that will be
You also have to consider you have C2.
what does c2 have to do with anything here
Mainly C1, which is a pretty solid jump for CA
c1 doesnt apply till you do an initial ca
im talking about my INITIAL CA is 130k melt dmg, ganyu xl benny zl

I'm just memein btw I really could give a shit I hate playing Melt Ganyu. Freeze 4 Lyfe. 
you end up with trash like this to much its a gaint ja bait im gonna roll
yea i fodder those as well
cause its 3L and flat atk, low chance for %atk or em 4th line
plenty of fodder from 16 or so cause mines well and striking a EZ times 5 exp for more fodder
well tbh i will prob roll it to +4 then fodder it
i fodder +4 into the strongbox as well btw, i could careless about wasting a bit of artifact exp
o no i save those lol just spend those into once that look great
+4 is just 6 4* fodder + 1 3 star fodder
using all+4s in the strongbox and getting all shit is just peak strongbox meta 
yea ive done that before
lemme show you guys what happened after farming months of the NO strongbox + farming that domain before
lol im waiting cause all my units have max friendship
you see this er?
i can run non er sword and hp sands cause i have that much er
sadly the WT strongbox just hates my ass
something like this
lemme pull up my second account's bennett stats
luckily all my er drops are from emblem 
actually no my kokomi is using it
i have a 33% er feather on kokomi, ugh i dont wanna switch out my chars again
will just take a screenshot of the feather
shee totm pog
yea godly feather
do you guys wanna see how important cr is even when you have over 70 cr?
This is between 2 different feathers
depending on unit 70% is min i shoot for cause how much even at 82% my ayato dont crit makes me REEE
so technically... unless you have 100 cr, cr will always beat any stat if you are looking at avg dps
i could technically swap but its prob not necessary
brobrobrobrobroken
why i dont wanna give ayato the new set cause i know my RNG is booty c
the 33% er ofcourse
this why the person running 94 cr or 98 cr or whatever just has more dps than me
thats why i run this over higher CD. the CR goes down by 30%
its cause they just have more cr, its not even about the cd and hp at that point
well tbf thats the difference of like 1cv to 4cv, cr should outperform 
oh i tested the diff between 8 cd vs 2 cr and 2 cr still wins
lol screaming at mihyo i will crit and u cant stop me
@lucid hornet im sure you havent seen this before, my diona's hat
makes sense ig
bruuuuh
lmao i lose some dps but stays constant
5 log outs later
why cr hat if not running fav đ€
24% er
aquila for att hes only 70 i have no invested much into benny
my barbra has something close
hot
nah yours doesnt have crit subs lol, thats why its meme cause it dodged every crit
i wouldve foddered this hat if it didnt dodge every crit
its that just 90% of artifacts though
yea ik
when you have 4L starting 3 good subs and the last one useless stat and it rolls EVERY ROLL into the wrong stat, that is shit is super tilting
my yelan feather is also kinda funny i guess 
i guess, good thing i got a more usable one 
why cant this happen on my character banner đ

Yea thats a good piece
which one would you guys go for?
didnt much schooling xD
However second one has more hp
would go first for the er
although its not eosf but i like being able to unga bunga rotations 
Would go for first one
if you running double hydro tho, go second
ill go with first then. i hate having various builds kinda makes me wonder non stp
oh wait its both 130
The issue with second one is that higher cr wouldnt really help since its only 200 not 250
mb misread it 
Like you should get more cd till u reach the 250 threshold
yeah i still have ways to go for the build. didnt think id pull for her til my brain did a full 180
Like for me i need more cr or hp
thats nasty
you should def just use optimizers tho 
I do
talking abt sensei
Thats why i know a lot about min maxing her
oh didnt know there were any

Like the difference is marginal but stll a diff
yeah theres a lot, head on to yelan mains or smthn 
Nah just use genshin optimizer its better
đ
does it account for er?
It can/
My team for yelan btw
nice
You just need to give Optimizer a minimum ER you want.
You can set any minimum build values before optimizing with it. Rate, ER, etcetc.
My yelan build doesnt have er issues as u can see
Then it gives the best build based around those stipulations.
sheesh sounds pog
And ive even tested it in abyss before i ran the er calc
It is. I need to update my arts on mine so I can optimize with some of these dank new pieces.
The reason why i use thoma is cause hes c6, its not unintentional
yeah inputting artis is kinda annoying 
Use one of the scanners. THey're on the site.
If i had kazu i actually would need more er on yelan, like 150 i think
ooh okay okay imma look it up
So venti is actually good here cause i can run my current er
lol friendship farming right here lol
But usually people tend to run double hydro with yelan
Ive tried it too but my team comp works fine
I can't get over Tao, Yelan, Mona, Zhong. It's so good.
Why mona and not xq
Everytime.
Im confused how this team will work if shes no t constantly vaping
Yelan C1 lets me run them both at like 150% ER and runs like clockwork.
She is constantly vaping though. lol.
Wouldnt xq vape better with yelan
not for unga bunga dmg
Mona omen doesnt move it stays in one place
Nope. Mona + Yelan still vapes every CA. And it does move. lmao. Omen stays on anyone it hits.
mona omen + yelan a4 sounds hella hot
Especially with C4 Mona. 
oh my đł
How does double geo vape ht compare to double hydro + zl
should do way more for hu tao's personal dmg
Which one
Double Geo vape doesn't work without Yelan C2.
double hydro
Sorry i mean double geo vape with xq
even more so then
Its cope af running yelan with ht alone pre c2
https://twitter.com/MaidMadsen/status/1536217392283537409?s=20&t=03vT6Rzb4PuwEQG_DYteCw
Few crit misses in this but you can still see her vape every hit. This was an older build so don't worry that it's not a bit higher in this clip.
So double hydro zl is better than double geo xq
yes
Ic
Yes. Considerably better, IME.
So thats her best comp now
I tend to do Yelan EQE > Mona EQ > Tao E brrrrrrrrr
Mona holding TTDS if you want max Tao dmg but building her as DPS is fine, too.
What about thoma c6 vs zl
Trash.
I wanted to love it but it's literally just worse. lmao
not necessarily, but hu tao + double hydro is her best comp
zhongli is replacable, could go xl or even fischl
Could u argue if you do have c2 yelan that ht yelan vv zl is better than double hydro zl?
Plus Yelan's passive. You lose out on the extra stack from 3 elements vs 2.
true
At that point I'd run Tao, Yelan, Albedo, Zhong.
why run vv without a second pyro?
Can't swirl Pyro til the second rotation.
sounds tedious 
You guys should try plying dps yelan at c0
It is. I hate VV Tao comps. It's so fucking sweaty.
Her dps at c0 isnt bad
true
only tried nuking once. never tried that again
But have u done it with recurve bow
well, maybe i would once i get more nuke supports 
Why tf would I ever do that? I have Aqua. 
To see f2p dmg
sounds cope 
Mid.



Yelan is actually similar to ei in that their main dps depends on their q
There's no wrong way to do it but because she doesn't really use Atk for anything but NA it's worth it to just ignore the phys dmg itself.
And we r seeing a lot of these main dpses now
If you run Spine + C2 Jean on Raiden she just destroys everything. Atk Spd ftw.
true, dps builds are just sub dps builds with her on field
Brb dishes
gl
If you have Yae and avoid HP it'll be pretty pog no matter what tbh. It's onset for her.
I knew this flower was going to come in handy someday.
Thanks
do it
heres mine
how do u like elgy on her i have it but i just poped it on venti and forgot
I'm so glad I won my 50/50 for C1... even if I did lose the one for C2.
really great for funerational 
I want a damn Elegy so I could break 150k vapes on Tao.
It'll probably happen once I get C3 anyways.
if i got aqua i probably wouldve used a 5 set on yelan 
damn 
I'm so jealous. I can't roll CR hats for shit from Emblem. lmao
all my good emblem crit hats are cr 
XL creaming over that second one. lmao
true 
after 630 days i finally reached ar60
lol pretty solid off sands
the fuck? 
em loves rolling on circlets 
Bruh. EM loves rolling on everything for my Emblem. lmao
Her Catch build swaps to a rate hat with no dmg... but 89 EM + ER. lmao
zamn 
82 btw
my highest ever was 83 đ
I think 81 is still my cap.
same
Well I don't have enough mora lol
rip
lol my first kazuha 50/50 loss to jean was at 88
yae piece
True
Yae or Beidou... Or Fish. Or Keqing....
Who's best support probably fish but but beidou benefits more from glad fish wants tenacity
But I could be an off set piece
damn tenacity fischl
i never thought of that
Fish does not want Tenacity. lmao. She can use Tenacity.
i mean 2p glad is always a good option
probably not for supports or units that are like hu tao or yelan
DPS supports need atk too.
I meant like sub dps
forgot about them
Or is this a Main dps raiden maybe because I do have engulfing lighting
How dare you.
does em work with raiden? idk i dont have her
Doesn't hurt... but it's not a priority.
I saw from one of the recent zajeff videos that tenacity is usually the best for team dps
Oml I literally just realized I've misspelled lightning my whole life
I've always spelled lighting
I know it's off topic
Fish is capable of doing an absolutely insane amount of dmg. Tenacity really cuts that back. Like... I get it...? But I'd rather use... Zhong... Or Kokomi... or Mona...
Fair enough I have been trying to build kokomi or mona
Also is monas c1 still broken
Fischl usually isn't more than 20% of her team dps plus you can reshapshot for the tenacity buff
trading out 18%atk and 15%electro dmg
for 20%attack?
does it hurt that much?
Why would you run the donut and tenacity
imagine not running r5 ttdsđ
I mean... if you want to farm a dope set for her by all means... but that's a big resin investment in a domain I hate farming cuz who tf plays phys? 
It was bad enough farming an HP set for that Kokomi. lmao
And I got mine pretty quick with a few Yelan pieces.
Still only have a 2pc PF. 
omg that emoji is hideous
sheeesh
Are you using kokomi as an onfield driver?
yes
the tenacity domains is super badđ
No. Hence the HP cup. Her Jelly stays on-field and up at all times. I never NA with her. 8.5k healing ticks is more than enough.
Then why the donut?
Drip. I usually use Amber or TTDS
đ€ amber is also for on field kokomi
i feel the donut doesnt look even look good on her
that event catalyst is much better aesthetically
How so?
oathsworn something?
Nothing Amber does has anything to do with her being on field. And it helps ease the ER req for single hydro EC comps.
Because it gives you the most personal dps especially with clam, if you are only using her as a healer than ttds would give you more team dps
Okay...? But again... less ER required. More comfortable play. It's not like I use Kokomi to be sweaty.
If I want good times I'll give Amber to Mona and nix Kokomi all together.
I'm even more confused about what you are using kokomi for now, you use her in an ec comp where she is usually on field
Or just give Mona TTDS. lmao
She's not on field in an EiMiko + Kazuha comp. lmao 
im so stupid
i was wondering why you guys were talking about the character amber
i just understood yall talkin about prototype
makes so much sense
It happens. 
I forgot about with miko, i was thinking of with beidou
But raiden helps with er doesn't it
Oh yeah. I'm talking C2/3 Raiden.
And I don't think you're hearing me. It's not I need the 48% atk to clear anything. I also don't like worrying about tighter rotations for TTDS.
It's just a pain in the ass most of the time. I only really use TTDS for bigppmemes.
It's just comfortable.
I mean it is more comfortable I was just talking about what gives you the most dmg
Oh yeah. I don't really give a shit what gives the most dmg. I clear an abyss floor in seconds rn either way. 
But yeah. Sweating it out with TTDS will be the most dmg.
lol baby xiangling
Final form gouba
why is your att so low my lvl 70 is beating your 85
Because the DM passive isn't on the card... and who the hell uses Xiangling with anyone but Benny anyway?
deathmatchs passive
Also because she has 300 EM.
But yeah DM put her around 1500.
i mean shes pretty strong with water dude and kazuha benny is optional
IMO she's trash without Benny in anything but Sukokomon. This build is specifically for Rational anyway. The only other thing I use her for is Melt Ganyu. Swap the Catch for DM and give her a rate hat.
i use her for memes more then dps NGL shes very unused on my account
Or like... Klee Mono-Pyro but that's a totally dif build from this.
I only built her for those 2 comps I mentioned. She's probably my least favorite polearm character. I couldn't stand her and didn't touch her the whole like... first year I was playing.
Same with Benny. But... Memes. Ya know? 
funerational 
i think i have used shenhe more then her and i dont even use shenhe that much
I fucking love Shenhe. She's the only reason I have any fun playing Cryo characters. I hadn't touched my Ayaka in months til Shenhe showed up. I also prefer freeze Ganyu. Melt puts me to sleep.
Plus she puts this R2 Spine to real good use. 
shenhe and yelan 
morgana is popular ganyu sytle
I hate Morgana. Venti in general bores me to tears.
A couple abyss cycles ago I actually 36ed pretty easily just replacing Ayaka. Ganyu, Mona, Kazuha, Shenhe.
But Shenhe also lets me do this with C0/R1 Ayaka so...
Her E is still lvl 9. First pic is Q ticks, second is her E.
E

G
lol shes just another 70 on my account
this is my shenhe 
damn 2 crowns on her you must use her
double crowned her and yelan 
mainly cause they hot 
Crowns are for simping.
exactly 
man of culture i see lol
Both my accounts have a triple crowned C1+Homa Tao on them. 
Main has C2... and will get C3 when she runs again.
u dont wanna see my hu tao u may ree
im going for more yelan cons lmao 
maybe go for shenhe's too, a few steps closer to c6 
not a positive ree a negative one cause its bad
It's fine. I treat mine well enough to compensate.
Her shim build is actually optimal at 70/222 w/ 161EM I just haven't updated the card.
OPTIMAL
my hu tao is kinda mid, homa didnt drop twice in a row. Dbane wont give any refinements 
and. not going back to crimson anytime soon
Bet lemme just use an optimization real quick
Gotta make sure I maintain my Polearm Simp Status.
Do you even have xiao
This is honestly kinda lit. Onset cup, too.
Are you kidding?
i guess those 6 months did pay off 
Pretty huge CV ngl lmao
I just don't see you flex him ever is why I asked
It's because I hate him. 
I still couldn't tell you why I triple crowned him.
I basically just keep a build on him to flex on nerds with like... 1900 atk and 250% CD. 
I play him a bit more since Yunjin dropped and I got C4 Jean. Lets me have a bit more fun with his comps.
Sinse we're talking about hu Tao
my xiao is 8/6/8 talents lmao i could never
only thing i have crowned is my ninng and she has 3 of them
does yunjin affect plunges?
no but NA Xiao is a thing
ah i see
homa be STRONK
tbh I'm been playing Xiao, Yunjin, Zhong, Yelan and having a lot of fun with NA Xiao.

how does he get his burst back
Yunjin and Zhong both have Fav.
Plus... ya know. I actually make sure he has some ER.
i barely get it back with fav jean with this much
Yeah that's why I have 2 favs and basically the same ER. lmao
Sucrose better if u don't have c4 Jean
protentional flex?
sac jean 
but i don't feel like using a separate healer
wait if i used sucrose could i survive with this low ER
Use Raiden?
U will
đŠ
hate to see it 
https://twitter.com/MaidMadsen/status/1521979792282816514?s=20&t=l4xfnzrwIShsyUnD8jj65A My favorite way to use Xiao.
So the piece turned out horribly but its still a VV EM at least, might give it sucrose and save Sucrose current piece for Kazuha
so what does xiao even do there 
Well, in abyss he will actually burst during Raiden's downtime. But otherwise... He has on 4VV... while Kazuha has a max EM WT/VV set on. Lets me push his buff harder for Raiden.
Plus... it's an Overload comp. So he helps a lot in juggling / chasing down flyers. It's fun as all hell.
I think he actually has Fav in that vid too. Just for comfort. But I wouldn't use his burst in that case. Just swirl VV procs.
Is this good a good 4pc Blizzard ayaka
pretty good already
Ty
Yes. Nice atk, too.
Most people fall way short for Blizz.
Broooo the sands đ
How long have you been farming the domain!?
I've been farming that place since 1.2 off and on and it took over 550 days to get a useable Atk Sand. lmao
that domain is literal hell.
I can do it in 40s but nothing will speed up the shit drop rates. 
danggg
The only built pyro character I use is bennett so it takes a while to break the shield for me
Just take Xiangling at like lvl 20. She'll still melt the shields in seconds.
Oh really? Okay thanks I'll try it out :)
Ye. Shields generally take the same amount of dmg regardless of the actual dmg it would have done. iirc.
moment u plus 4 and dont see crit damage or atleast ER scrap
I wouldve been fine if it all went to cr but I was looking for 2 VV EM sands and theyre all I have right now, plan to run both Kazuha and Sucrose on EM/EM/EM
Good luck. I've been looking for an EM Sand from VV since... 1.0 
I got pretty lucky to get 2 EM sands without much resin spent, they do have bad substats but if theyre for supports I dont mind as much, a cr/cd focused Kazuha will probably use an atk sands in my case
Can I see yours by the way? If i remember correctly you had a really well built Kazuha
About 1 month
oh woww đđ
Happy Monday
I need Catalyst Billet. Plz. 
I got a polearm bilet tdy
still sunday for me
Rate my klee and xq
More cr on klee
Not enough?, well i barely missing my crit on her tho
Its mainly for that passive
wait... Which passive, her 50% chance one?
Whatever the fuck its called the one that gives team er if ca crits
I had one 4pc emblem with sac, but i use mist + mixed for maximized dmg
I cant balance crit with mist and 4pc emblem on
I do, ok i will try
But if u dont have the energy for his team then stick to sac
Can they just add some goddamn endgame content
Im literally playing teapot now cause abyss is too much of a joke and i never have resin to spend
Like where r the boss raids?
Since day 1 people have been asking for endgame content
Like whats so bad about boss raids?
Nnk is a mobile mmo game and has gacha, why cant genshin do the same
Id love having raids in genshin⊠not this boring shit that makes avg daily playtime less than 1 hr
Like lets be honest, abyss is just too easy to be considered endgame
Anyone can 36 as long as they arent trolling around
I already 36âd both as f2p and non f2p⊠theres nothing else to do other than resin and dailiesâŠ
What do you guys think? Do you agree?
No
Why not
You cant br serious that abyss is endgame⊠its just way too easy⊠ask the avg ar58+ player
I wish there was an endless collousseum with endless mode where you and 3 others can team up and fight as long as possible and get rewards depending on how high you get.
Yea that would be cool
But for some God forsaken reason, HoYoVerse just doesn't like the idea of cooperative game modes 
This is what im doing on my 3rd acc
Freedom-Sworn Ayaka đ
Healer Ayaka
Nice, too bad Ningguang can actually heal more than Ayaka ever will (using the prototype thingy).
Have you played NNK seriously? There's nothing fun about it. Repetitive tasks once the story quest ends and almost everything is automated. Same as Lost Ark. I quit both after playing for quite a bit of time.
Yes, abyss is easy. However, it takes quite a bit of effort. Not a lot of people can afford to spend that amount of time in a game.
36 stars, for many, is still a pipe dream.
However, for the folks more dedicated and try-hards, it's easier. Don't generalize that for all.
If you spend money, it becomes easier. Much easier.
On the other hand, yes, Mihoyo should add more flair, more permanent features and exciting gameplay to the existing model to make it even more attractive.
Lmao is there even a healing sword that aint self-healing? đ
Also, this is not the channel for such discussions. #đŹgimshim-chat is the ideal place.
Abyss doesnt really take that much skill tbh, i play a f2p acc and what i found out is that as long as u do your talents and have decent artifacts theres no reason why u cant 36 as f2p im sure many can confirm this
Also people forget that leveling and funding supports actually matter
Nnk is whatever tbh, i play it as a side game
Not a generalized thought though. Anyhow, I'll not prolong this discussion here since this topic is not for this channel.
Im in a strong guild and im a elite in the guild as f2p so thats good enough for me
Nnk at least has raids and endgame content to do
I still like genshin more but it does offer content that genshin should have
pretty woman
U can call it a way of coping if u want to
Cause i really wish genshin was a real mmo
Yes
kinda regret for doing this
im just trying to find a cdmg feather for hutao, i love this game
I have too many of those already.
why cant this be crimson witch for my hutao
repetitive tasks? so u quit? isnt that the same for genshit lmao clearly bias
Yes, but atleast in genshin I get to do them. In NNK, it's automated so zero effort and hence lost interest
Nnk does stuff that genshin does better
And vice versa
@nova summit i missed u mf
Have u seen my ayaka ive shown it a lot already
Well there it is
its disgusting but good enough for endgame content in genshit






