🎴genius-invokation-tcg

[remote furnace]

i think is basically a first turn pressure deck aiming at taking out a character first turn

[chilly basalt]

"first turn kill", though in genshin tcg terms they mean first round

[remote furnace]

yes

i did say it didnt i

[chilly basalt]

killing one character round 1, to hopefully cripple the opponent's strategy

[remote furnace]

i did say it prior

[chilly basalt]

hmm, I only saw "i am not sure what ftk really stand for"

afaik, otk is killing the whole party, ftk just one char

[remote furnace]

you need to read the whole thing friendly reminder

[steady cedar]

where is cats tail tournament?

[late widget]

you can find it once it opens under tournament updates.

usually each patch comes a new tournament... tho is not guaranteed

[steady cedar]

well it is late. last week should have been registration and we start this week. There only 20ish days left in the patch now.

[boreal carbon]

Yeah there seem to be no CTG in this patch

[last chasm]

No card back (yet), no ctg, no serious showdown, no prince cup winter wildcard

Everything is fine 🥰

[stray void]

[vague ridge]

I’m currently planning out some Archon-inspired decks, starting with Furina. I have both her and Neuvillette as 2 of my 3 characters.

The question is, who should the 3rd character be?

[last chasm]

Layla

[vague ridge]

Would Charlotte or Wriothesley work as well?

[last chasm]

Charlotte could work but Layla better

Rizzley is big no

[crisp saffron]

Where can I find good decks?

[gritty belfry]

1. You can join the GITCG discord in the #🤝partnered-servers channel, its the most active global server for TCG, there's a help channel and a tournaments channel for the best performing deck from weekly tournaments
2. This site has CN tournament data, but it usually takes them half a patch to get updated https://www.summoners.top/en

[upper needle]

When is the next CTG?

[steady cedar]

never tcg is dead

[remote furnace]

You can go subscribe to xeiryuutcg on YouTube e

[remote furnace]

96 is right the dev burnt their kitchen after 4.3

Every single patch, shit is more stupid

If they can do it best thing to do is deleted everything put it back to 4.3 where everything is fine and colourful

[steady pulsar]

they tried to tone down the magic but well 🦤

[remote furnace]

They tune down something that can destroy the new meta

[terse delta]

Imagine if they didn't nerfed Jeht... x_x I miss having to play 3 jehts

[edgy pewter]

Where my card back

🤔

[late zephyr]

[rotund trellis]

[vague ridge]

How does my Diluc Melt deck look so far?

[worldly flume]

not enough draw and wgs seems like overkill

i think it could be better if you could put in some value engine

[crystal zinc]

I think it could be better if you just delete it

[worldly flume]

toxic ebri madge

[elder heart]

I think you should keep lotus and change the rest of the food for two of stormterrors lair, two Bennett talents and one diluc talent

Bennett burst will provide healing anyway so all the heal food is too much

I don’t think you need star signs, it’s a very aggro deck so I think you’re better off using their 3 damage skills and building up to burst

I also think you can replace the crane returns and jade chamber for card draws like liben

[remote furnace]

the first thing when you are looking for in a bennet deck is his talent

and second, ebrithil had the right idea

just 🚮

[chilly basalt]

I think before they delete a deck, they should know where to find a better version

otherwise.. "just delete it" isn't very helpful advice I feel 😅

[lost terrace]

1. Bennett decks really need his talent.
2. Neither Diluc nor Chongyun can use bennett's burst as optimally as a prepare skill character (Abyss Herald, Electro hypostasis, Dvalin and so on)
3. You have no ramp and as such you are mostly limited to 2 attacks per round.
4. You have WGS and no way of discounting it, besides that, its unnecessary here.
5. Too little card draw.
6. send off is eh, if you have it because of chiori or apep then imo blast is better.
7. you have alot of food, and considering that bennetts burst is going to heal you at times, you can afford to cut alot.

overall it fails as a diluc deck, because you cant equip him easily and theres no diluc talent, and it fails as a bennett deck because theres no one here who takes advantage of his burst, as well as its missing his talent card.

[crystal zinc]

So what he said is

Everything is wrong

[vague ridge]

How does my Lyney-Benny Mono Pyro Deck look so far?

[worldly flume]

No offence but the card choices here reflect your lack of understanding of the cards.

I think you should read the cards snd what they do before adding them in.

Again not really trying to be mean here but you should try to do that first.

[vague ridge]

I think I see the problem here… Chevy doesn’t work in mono-Pyro builds.

It’s fine, though. I just swapped her out for Klee.

[knotty notch]

pyro res is useless in mono pyro

[vague ridge]

Fervent Flames?

What should I swap that out with?

[knotty notch]

your cards dont synergize

you have aggro cards but then you are playing bennet and countdown

stove god needs 2 diff arcane cards

[late widget]

ima gonna be honest.

is not practical.

-pyro reaction card only works if you do elemental reactions related to pyro. (unless you happend to fight Chongyun/Kokomi/Cicin Fatui mage decks every single time, so they self apply elements and then you come up with the reaction from pyro.)

-countdown card is an expensive choice. Its better use on a Discard themed deck. Weapons and artifacts are fine, but you need to create an ideal synergy.

Its better to aim for elemental reactions/combo and characters skill that may be compatible with one another.

I have yet to see a "mono deck" that would work, But I could be wrong. Maybe in the future, there might be more options to make it viable. but what you have right there is not good for consistency performance.

[remote furnace]

If you want to know the definition of garbage and nonsense I will be happy to educate you

Did you just swap 2 cards out of a meta deck and call it your own deck

[rancid plover]

Countdown is being used even outside of Discard these days

Has good base value

But yeah the deck needs some tweaking

[late widget]

never said you cant. I just mentioned its better used under that spectrum.

[rancid plover]

Mono decks will always be leaning on meme decks honestly, but Lyney with his talent may be the strongest argument

[late widget]

agreed. or maybe we havent realize the "golden combo" for a mono deck (whatever element type is) I might have a few on top of my head but IMO you can only make it viable with raw power Like having ults almost every turn that hits 4-6 damage starting at round 2

[north sequoia]

And maybe mono herald electro, but then again it mostly a meme deck 🤣

[remote furnace]

Just tell him to replace Bennet with scorpion atleast don’t have to say it “my own mono pyro deck” because it obvious what deck he made change from

[night mica]

its about time for mono pyro vid

[brazen creek]

anyone got good chiori deck?

i have been using noelle, gorou, raiden deck.

can i replace gorou with chiori?

[shy fjord]

I don't have the specifics, but I've been seeing a lot of Chiori/Navia and the occasional Chiori/Zhongli. They're a pain to fight, so they have to be doing something right...

[worldly flume]

Samach try not to be a bully challenge (impossible)

[remote furnace]

i am just tired of this

[rancid plover]

It's not too hard to also just keep words like that to yourself

[steady cedar]

oh this week I managed every dynamic card, still have my 5 blank cards and fontaine board as well.

[remote furnace]

i cant stop it that deck is adsolute garbage

[boreal carbon]

Well I mean you can just say stuff like how Chevreuse don't work at all in non-overload deck, (also personally the Countdown is useless) and leave it at that, no need for harsher words 🧍

Oh also I just realized the Stove is probably useless too 💀

[remote furnace]

that was for a bennet deck without talent, with chongyun and diluc

also

if you think about it

he never made his deck all he did is swap out scorpion and put it talent away

[digital moth]

Hi everyone, I just joined this server because I found out that if you participate in the Cat's Tail tournament you can win card backs that cannot be found elsewhere. 😍 Do you already know when the next tournament will be?

[boreal carbon]

Sadly we do not know when is the next tournament is

[digital moth]

OK, we'll just have to wait then.
Is there somewhere I can see the cardbacks that have come out so far?

[remote furnace]

it doesnt matter they probably will never comeback

and the next batch of cardback release are in like 2025

[boreal carbon]

The non-gold ones, are these I think, I have all of them :p

[digital moth]

cool! thx 🤩

[lyric rivet]

only the enka one can be obtained now

past 3 are gone

[rough patio]

I'm still betting that the next one is the desert

[terse delta]

Guys i saw in a CN group that the Genshin Physical TCG pre sale starts today… would yall have any idea where to buy or pre order ?

[remote furnace]

Yeah buy that

The actual good game

Unlike your 5050 mamere

[lyric rivet]

taobao

[remote furnace]

淘宝

[terse delta]

Checked on taobao will probably wait til evening for updates

[late widget]

well... its the same for Nilou. She works the best on dendro/hydro decks only. You can use her on pyro/electro reactions, but "her full potential" wont be unlocked. The thing about this game honestly is, to play with the best selection possible and try to reduce the randomness with the support cards.

so playing chevreusse on decks outside of overload decks is... basically wasting your time.

[late widget]

u mean the game?

[lyric rivet]

reducing randomness is overrated

maximize randomness

[remote furnace]

how about this straitup have a card that instantly win you the game or lose you the game

let the 20k prize pool be raffle

[eager turret]

Exodia ahh card idea.

[steady pulsar]

we technically already have that, it's just being used by NPCs rn

[late widget]

honest input from anyone (wether is good or bad)

how would you improve this deck?

[late widget]

well surprise me then, wich deck you would call unpredictable?

[lyric rivet]

xianyun cube with 0 dice fixers

neither you or your opponent can predict when you will get enough aligns to skill

[late widget]

electro or crio cube tho?

[rancid plover]

Use Stove arcane, reduce one Eremite talent, too much expensive food imo, don't use Kath. Dawn Winery is also okay I guess but just one copy at most

Recommend Quick Knit and something like Golden Troupe, Vanarana also

[humble wagon]

i don't think any of those companion supports are useful tbh

most of the food is unnecessary like they said yeah

[rancid plover]

Lotus is okay

The other food are best for more Stall like decks that have longer games

Niloom is more of a round 3-4 deck

Regardless it probably won't go too long to gain much value

Don't have Mao either if you wanted to run that much food

[oak nacelle]

so grossly in love with this deck i feel almost wrong for using it

the only downfall is not getting three ice-dice in the very beginning for maguu kenki first move buuuut double anemo character bonus skill card gives you an omni dice after a ‘free’ fast action switch for the cost of one anemo dice

waiiit noo the chiori wasn’t a kill 💔

i think decks that could bypass this are fatui-manifest and very likely good navia decks

[terse delta]

Any news bout the pre sale of the physical TCG

[stray void]

it's live

not sure if I should post it here though, there are 4 links and I might get bonked for link spamming

[late widget]

and so, the new version comes and promises sigewine, rosaria and the geo abyss hound... along with "a new game mode" that is pretty much auto battle. Any thoughts?

[remote furnace]

this game is fucked

not even close

only thing we are looking for is the deletion of card that shall not be named

[late widget]

I dont see the vision behind that game mode other than "trying" to bring casual players

[late widget]

nice try, but that wont happend

[rancid plover]

Yeah using Maguu Kenki needs an expensive R1

Make sure you have dice fixing

[terse delta]

Ayaka deck is almost sold out in every taobao shop... I pre ordered the ayaka starter... The 18 booster packs and the dice accessories

[stray void]

there's an ongoing gag that all top players are playing TFT instead

guess HoYo caught on to it

[proven gyro]

does anyone know a good deck that utilises Nahida's talent?

[safe ermine]

are ya winnin boys?

[rancid plover]

No Nahida deck uses her talent, it's not worth using

[proven gyro]

but having pyro unit allows tri-karma to deal dendro dmg on active character

it has good combo potential

[rancid plover]

Theoretically but it's still not a recommended talent

Decks with Nahida already do a lot of damage anyway

Plus you probably won't be able to use it as much as you want to regardless

[proven gyro]

what about deck with multiple saurus cards?

[rancid plover]

You don't use several in one deck either

Most popular is obviously Yumka or Yoink, the others are more niche

[crystal zinc]

unnecessary

[rancid plover]

Yea

[crystal zinc]

Your breakpoint reach after nahida burst is already really good

You'll never need the extra dendro aura

[proven gyro]

I'm trying to use at least 2 different ones

[rancid plover]

Doesn't seem optimal

The other two don't seem to have as much value as Yumka could

[proven gyro]

hmm okay

[rancid plover]

Most summon decks don't want to lose one usage so soon

Niloom is an exception where you dish out more damage I guess cause that's how it goes

[proven gyro]

any cards that synergize with yumka?

since I feel like its usage is kinda expensive

[rancid plover]

Yumka is the most universal so you can fit it in any deck

The trick is to minimize your hand

It can really mess up someone's game

When you get key cards

Don't bother running the technique food or Atea for it

[proven gyro]

oh lol

Well I'll see what can I do, since I'm not really familiar with techniques, been avoiding their usage

[rancid plover]

It's fine if you don't use any

But may as well get familiar with Yumka

There's also Xianyun's technique

It's pretty good

[sly field]

Does anyone know any good teams that use furina?

[gentle stag]

What are the most common meta decks nowadays? I got burnout and left around the time when everyone was using Jeht and dice magic

[last chasm]

Barbara, Lisa, Furina

[last chasm]

• Crab, Cyno, Thoma
• Kuki, Xianyun, Herald
• Yoimiya, Yelan, Rizzley

[proven gyro]

I'm trying to make a video so I really need it xd

[wet beacon]

my favorite deck is freminet furina chongyun with serene + magic overlord and a few other cards that make cards that werent in the deck

[rancid plover]

Asked for current meta though

I'd put Chiori/Navia in there

[remote furnace]

after 3 patches finally got apep gold talent card

I guess I just don’t meta atall

[remote furnace]

Yumka isn’t universal

But the deck that runs it is broken

It counter their matchup

[late widget]

hmm so so.. thinking how I can make Zhongli great again in a deck.

[rancid plover]

Chiori Zhongli Dehya

[rancid plover]

Compared to Kohola and Tepetl you see it more often, that's what I meant

[late widget]

I was running Dori instead of Dehya (mainly for sustain purposes) But is a solid idea.

[late widget]

yeh, that ish annoys me TF out sometimes. But is a good card if you know how to play it well

[rancid plover]

It's most annoying R1

Especially for decks that have equipment or Countdown

[rancid plover]

I've seen it before it's meant to be a tanky powerful summon deck

[remote furnace]

It just mean the other one is complete garbage

Lament level garbage

[late widget]

and it is, so far I've seen some great results but need some changes to solidify (yes, pun intended) its performance.

[rancid plover]

You have to keep Zhongli above 7HP

Which shouldn't be too hard I guess

[oak nacelle]

rice whale whoever you are I hope you know my stomach dropped

[shy fjord]

How is this third deck supposed to be played? I've seen it a few times but it didn't seem too strong

Was it a deck counter thing or just a skill issue for the other player?

[last chasm]

https://youtu.be/VZlrPij_KnU

It will be better if you get Yoimiya talent at r1

[gritty belfry]

As someone who mains this deck, some key things to note while piloting:

1. Deck has a harder mu vs aggro/yumkasaurus/ancient battle/freeze/kuki xy
2. Yoi needs to be protected at all costs and should have burst up by end of R1 using MMR/NSC/Glad + Cov, swap off if needed to dodge R2 threats
3. If opp gets greedy, there is an FTK line with Yoi E > NA > Yelan E > Cov + Glad/NSC Yelan NA or Yoi Talent + MMR 3NA
4. Once Yoi burst is up, u can sac her and ramp into next round, if opp refuses to kill, swap over to Yelan to draw or Wrio to get E online
5. During OTK round, calc every possible line to find optimal use of every card in hand, every time i will miss something which leads me to miss out on 1 extra atk
6. Depending on the format, this deck is used to counter specific stall decks and since it uses 3 characters that dont fit anywhere else, u can slot this in if you need to bring 9 unqiue characters

[remote furnace]

You play it an realise it take almost no skill against other deck so you drop it

[vivid cloak]

and then there's also lyney cyno yelan that will eat it up

[shy fjord]

Thanks

[shy fjord]

I see, thanks!

[true owl]

heres the upcoming tcg update (note b4 ure reporting me coz its a leak... its taken from content experience which u know what is dat? so dont take this as a fact since content shown here may or may not appear when its live):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQ16BlBI4B7HAZMDbm6LiaN0eOLCYyIhbM4Gj6Uyy7NOiZ1hkryWlD08hcZTEb9e2huuRdtb1MbyGED/pub
source for CE video : https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wcmaYJE4t/?spm_id_from=333.1387.upload.video_card.click

[remote furnace]

It already out I think

Normally when they did live program the nerf and buff update would be already somewhere else

[north sequoia]

Wow sig n rosalia sounds hard to play

[remote furnace]

But I see no balance change

Ok I am fucking out

How they let broken ass herald talent with 8 dice value live through all the patches

[crystal zinc]

no idea how youre making up random value numbers

[humble wagon]

i think he means 3 per skill (energy) and then 3 for burst (minus one due to the card costing 1)

but it doesn't really make any sense bc of the conditions needed for it to activate anyway

[remote furnace]

You need the extra card to tune

And 1 card = 1 dice

Yes it around 5 dice value since those are the card that is least important

But worst case still could be 8 dice value

Unless you get perfect dice then whatever 4 dice value

[crystal zinc]

bro's counting dice luck as a part of a talent cards value

truly a samach moment 💀

[remote furnace]

That the realistic way of doing it, Yelan talent 0 value for you lmao

[crystal zinc]

samach yapping about a game which he doesnt understand the tiniest bit of is so iconic

[celest magnet]

When will they add more TCG to the overworld? Idk how often they add it

[worldly flume]

ironic considering he trash talks others for not being good at the game

[oak nacelle]

rice whale what is your deck smoking

everytime I use yunjin her atk is ass how did you manage to get a broken deck 😭

[worldly flume]

what is rice whale

[oak nacelle]

user

[late widget]

[late widget]

yeh... break the game even further

[orchid summit]

Isn't there any Rosaria card? I can't find her in the characters to invite list

[stray void]

-# I wonder if you have checked the stream...
anyways she's not in TCG yet; wait for 5.2

[orchid summit]

What stream?

[stray void]

the 5.2 stream

[orchid summit]

I don't watch anything about gi

[stray void]

ah ok

fair enough

[late widget]

she will be added on 5.2

[remote furnace]

like you know about me

and how much i know about the game

[worldly flume]

herald talent is not 8 dice value

i think everyone will disagree with you on that one

[remote furnace]

i account max value

you are very likely not going to get perfect 4 4 dice

having herald talent will need 1 extra dice and 1 extra card for tuning(and yes normall 1 card does worth less than 1 dice generally)

ofc yes i know it only cost 4 dice

[crystal zinc]

It's crazy how some people always desperately try hanging onto their opinion, despite the fact that they've never been somewhat succesful at this game

If only casuals were trying to actually improve at the game, maybe it wouldnt be dying rn

[last chasm]

Nah, this side game is dying because there is too much hatred towards tcg

Especially from big influencers

[crystal zinc]

tbf it's still completely hoyos fault

they made tcg a minigame inside a gacha game and locked it behind ar 32

so people from other card games never touched gitcg

and the only people left to play it were a bunch of gacha gamers

[chilly basalt]

I'm an MtG player who happened to also play gitcg and like it

but signing up for tournaments feels like a high bar of entry

if it was like MtG arena, they have an ingame ladder and the equivalent of monthly primogem rewards for reaching a certain rank

except, that's where the contradiction comes in. It feels like ingame gitcg rewards are mostly cosmetic.

But if they give relevant rewards, gacha grinders will feel like they have to play it now and react negatively

[safe ermine]

anybody still playing tcg?

[stray void]

convo happened multiple times in the GITCG server but I'd have to say again for the peeps here that all you said is unfortunately true

again, writing was already on the wall in 3.1 SP, they already said the game will have zero tangible rewards for competitive play at that time

the whole CN system was made specifically to sidestep that statement, but we haven't got that yet

and CTG, which was supposed to be Global's way to sidestep that statement, is under-marketed

[remote furnace]

[orchid summit]

I have a doubt. The card Eremite Teatime gives food if you have three characters of the same faction. What is a faction?

[humble wagon]

faction is something like Fatui or Monster

it should say in a character card's tags what faction they're from

[remote furnace]

so weapon type elemental type and location type

[latent rivet]

Hey heyy

I haven't played in months what did I miss lol

[rancid plover]

Not just faction, also elemental type and region if I'm not wrong. 3 different conditions

[orchid summit]

I know, but what is faction?

[rancid plover]

A group, like Eremites as mentioned or Monster

[orchid summit]

I use a deck with Yanfei, Lisa and Barbara, and I got the food

What faction are they?

[rancid plover]

Region or in this case Mondstadt cause of Lisa and Barbara

If it's not Eremite, Fatui or monster, it's region based

[orchid summit]

Then what faction are Lyney and Lynette?

They're fatui and from Fontaine

[orchid summit]

How many months?

[latent rivet]

Idk like 2 or 3

[rancid plover]

I think region comes first, Freminet is also the same case

Basing it on the order of information Like how it tells a character's element first, weapon, region, then faction

[latent rivet]

Last thing I remember was hearing about Yun Jin and a whale heh

[rancid plover]

Both were nerfed, whale mostly

People have been making it work again though, I've also been playing it

Meta has been Kuki Xianyun Hydro/Cryo unit, Crab, some Cyno/Overload, Chiori and/or Navia, Apep is also floating around

Some older decks can still breathe and be viable though

Magic is also still a thing with decks like Herald Sayu Chongyun

[latent rivet]

Ooo

As a Kuki main I like to hear that lol

[rancid plover]

Kuki's been really good since her release, very versatile, can be a really strong anchor with her talent

[latent rivet]

Yeyy

Something new I noticed is the saurian cards

[rancid plover]

Yeah techniques

Xianyun and Hydro Hilichurl Rogue also make one

[pine sphinx]

The eremites also do

[rancid plover]

Oh yeah I forgot

[upbeat onyx]

this comeback is so funny

[chilly basalt]

why did they send nilou
when Nahida dies to swirl dmg anyway, might as well sac her first

maybe it didn't matter

[remote furnace]

maybe you should realise why it is funny

[lyric rivet]

it wouldnt have mattered

[upbeat onyx]

complacent probably

[rancid plover]

It was a loss either way so eh

[remote furnace]

Nah it probably an abandonment

[analog oyster]

Currently thinking on what to put in a Chiori deck

want to use Furina because of bias

[last chasm]

You can use Klee, Shenhe or Herald

Each one of them has slight different play styles

[analog oyster]

Herald?

[last chasm]

Abyss Herald

[analog oyster]

ahh

[last chasm]

Actually you can play Chiori-Furina-Sigewinne (stall) and Splendor sword for Chiori

But idk if it could work well

I havent seen anyone try that

[rancid plover]

Chiori Herald Navia

[brazen creek]

finally done.

[terse delta]

My first edition genshin tcg booster packs just came yesterday and i didnt get that grade 4 ayaka 😦

I got a holo Ganyu/Chongyun/Keqing/the blacksmith/oceanid

All of the cards are in chinese still… will also buy if the en one releases eventually

[gritty belfry]

still waiting for my tcg packs to arrive

[terse delta]

Where do you live… i got mine about 4 days ago…. Im from PH

I ordered x1 ayaka starter/18 boosterpacks/dice accessories

[gritty belfry]

malaysia, should be arriving today

[terse delta]

Hope you get lucky in your packs… me not so lucky… wheres my shiny Ayaka?!

[gritty belfry]

manifesting G4 collei

[terse delta]

I have 2 G4 but its chonkyun and oceanid 😦

Or maybe my oceanid is g3 might check the rarity difference

Gold lining is 4 and silver is 3

[crisp saffron]

Not as funny as you

[gritty belfry]

g4 is alt art, there's only 1 in 54 packs/1 in 3 boxes (i dont think its possible for 2 G4 in 1 box)

[upbeat onyx]

took 2h to get a good team

pretty fun event

[dawn shell]

how is it that you always start first in this event?? and why is the event not for coop 😭😭

[dawn shell]

just use freeze

[upbeat onyx]

i hv no idea how the event works tbh i was starting to think i was fighting bots 😭

[upbeat onyx]

i had the most fun with shield and hp stacking teams

[dawn shell]

real!!! but some even keep the cards to nuke on navia so i thought maybe it isnt bots but how come i never start 2nd

[dawn shell]

sounds fun but looked like freeze was really solid to me

[upbeat onyx]

i think i started second like once or twice actually but still very less

[upbeat onyx]

ill try it out

[dawn shell]

the resonance along with yelan or xingqiu makes the opp do 0 dmg

[upbeat onyx]

u shld try layla and zhongli + white tassel i think ? the one that heals 5 max hp each round

i hit 70 hp w zhongli and he js kept healing

[chilly basalt]

haven't looked at tcg in a long time
is this any good for stall?

or is what's effectively +1 hp for 1 die just terrible value

also, is golden wolflord any good?

hmm, golden corrosion sounds exactly like poison in slay the spire

[crystal zinc]

no

[crystal zinc]

^

[chilly basalt]

ok, I thought maybe having food you can play wheneveryone is at full might have some value

but I guess that's the 2-cost fontaine food already

[storm mango]

Sharing a rare Round 1 win in the new mode

[remote furnace]

It for crab when rgs is meta

[upbeat onyx]

crazy immune team

[humble wagon]

99 ayyy

[late widget]

that 99 was overkill ☠️

[late widget]

might be good. People still under "the testing phase" fought a couple of people using him a couple of times, most of the duels I won using a frozen focus deck. does terrible against pressure/high combo decks... he is better off coming in, attack, swich asap to avoid most damage.

thats at least my impresion and experience. so long the corroed character stays in combat and the wolf doesnt have the talent on, is easy to avoid the corrosion damage.

[dark coyote]

Likely best against shield stall strategies, but outside of that yeah kinda mid

[vivid cloak]

so in my humble opinion, monocryo teams are the most efficient in HBM
I lost only a few games, but some of them were r1-r2 where equip+buff diff can be too high

now, to show off my best build:

• layla on shim
• wrio on sac + exile
• venti on sac + vermillion, adeptus applied
• ayaka on fav (+ marechausse due to the lack of options)
  https://youtu.be/0J4wYwT_7do

~~maybe there was tandoori I forgot about, you can count atk yourself to check ~~

144 raw dmg at round 1

[remote furnace]

It broken

[chilly basalt]

need the talent, I assume?

[remote furnace]

It just a better zhongli

[orchid summit]

Anyone knows what's up with the tournament?

[dark coyote]

So I've been trying to get this deck to work for a while now, to quite literally no success. The only things that can't be changed are Kujou Sara and Shinobu, but the middle slot, deck, and gameplan are all free to be changed

Deck code:
ARDxwVAMFTDAyVsMFpChzWoNFeBB5lQOCfAQ75EPCSDQ9J0PC0BA9rQQCxHwC78QDLAA

my other thought is Cheveruse

[stray void]

so Tuonto is streaming something 👀

[steady cedar]

like tcg related?

lol just pack opening for content. guy never even going to play

[last chasm]

Dont get your hopes up

Not a single big influencer wants to play genshin tcg

[late widget]

before I put my personal input, tell me a bit of your battle plan. Whats your vision behind this deck

[dark coyote]

Small damage to prep for big damage? I'm not quite sure how to explain these things

I do know that neither Kirara nor Shinobu's skills benefit from crowfeather cover, but it provides two instances of electro application, can buff any of the 3 characters, and helps with burst damage especially

I guess it's a pseudo stall deck

[late widget]

does it have to be these 3?

[dark coyote]

I feel like I probably spread myself a bit thin in trying to make sure I had options, though. The plunge attack card isn't ever used, for example

[dark coyote]

There has to be Kujou Sara and Kuki Shinobu, but the 3rd character can be anyone

[late widget]

wa, downplaying my cat gurl like that lol

jokes aside, heres what I think..

[dark coyote]

I gravitated towards Kirara due to her having more immediate Dendro application than Yao Yao, a good damage option with her burst, and being able to use swords

By the way, it's okay if the two of them aren't the main damage dealers and instead support another character

[late widget]

Ok then, heres the tea.. I would take off 1 talent card. (leave only one of each from kirara and shinobu) first thing in round one, is to use the secret technique that you have. That would automatically give you one of the 2 talent. If you start with kirara and her talent shows up, is a solid start. You can use it, and benefit from its perks before swiching to either side.

Next, take off the following cards: Stormterror layer (both), plunge attack, one of the favonious church.

Add another leave it to me, one Dawn vineyard (for swap at no cost), some food at low cost/location healing card. (wichever you choose)

I have a similar deck (kirara and shinobu) their main goal is to swich as many times as possible while using their elementals to trigger the pasive damage from their skills

having no cost swap plus quick swap it adds great value to that strategy

I dont use weapons, so thats up to you at the end.

FXAB0VwNERDB1WoNFeBA65cOCbBx7DQOE8BB8UgPFBGBO1cTC7FgS7sUC7GwC8MQDLAA

this is what I use. You dont have to follow the same path, but just to give you an idea what I meant before.

[last chasm]

Yao Yao with Rightful Reward is actually more useful than Kirara in your deck

You can get unlimited heal

But you need dawn winery to keep moving around with zero cost

[gentle stag]

I also had more success using Kirara in 2 dendro 1 electro deck

[rancid plover]

Too many talents and the other cards here can be changed imo

You can just do with 2 Kuki and 1 Kirara talent, no Aquila, Crowfeather cover also doesn't really benefit them a lot

I'd replace Sara to be honest

[late widget]

yeh

[worldly flume]

I NOMINATE ABYSS HERALD WICKED TORRENTS

sorry for caps

[dark coyote]

good suggestion

[dark coyote]

From a gameplay side I agree, but, have you considered

ship deck

[worldly flume]

abyss herald trust

[late widget]

if you aiming to "disrupt" oponents dice spend habits, then yes, herald is a solid choice. I would argue Neuvi its better choice damage wise

[worldly flume]

id disagree because crowfeater will be more efective on herald than neuv

remember heralds prepare skill applies two crowfeather buff per skill

[late widget]

that would be correct if you speak on using only the elemental skill and dice cost/benefit ratio. You can get 2 extra damage more than neuvi on that scenario. (neuvi would do 3 damage with crowfeather, 4 if enemy has electro applied, herald would do a flat out 6 in between both attack on the same scenario) But neuvi is better damage wise because of his follow up with his basic attack + self sustain and the option of using a catalist.

[worldly flume]

the option of using weapon does sound appealing...

cus you could run wagner with it

and get kuki with sword

[late widget]

agreed, if you fixed on using weapons.

but to your point too, herald is better if you like to go straight to business and minimize odds for the weapon card to show up.

[orchid summit]

Please, can somebody with Apep and Scorpion deck fight with me? I want to learn how to defeat it with my deck

[rancid plover]

What server are you on?

I'm on AS

[orchid summit]

Europe

[remote furnace]

What deck are you running

[orchid summit]

Yanfei, Lisa and Barbara

[remote furnace]

Let see how long does it take me to re-download the game

[orchid summit]

I can't play now, I have things to do

[rancid plover]

What does Barbara contribute

She doesn't synergize with them, I'd suggest Mona

Since Apep is naturally gonna act more gradually Aggro can mess it up pretty bad, Mona seems like the perfect choice

Besides you'd want some more offense to get through Xinyan's shields and all

[orchid summit]

Look, I wanted to make a deck with the characters I use in the game

I worked some time until I made a deck quite good

And it is my only deck

I won't change it never

So, if there is a new meta on every version, I want to be able to defeat it with my deck

This is the current meta I'm looking for

[rancid plover]

Bring some fast swaps then I suppose

Though as a user of the Apep deck they can also trick you to either giving a Bloom, Burn or Quicken with Barbara's Hydro aura so watch out

[orchid summit]

That's the trick, I usually use Barbara to pretend I'm going to use her

[rancid plover]

Even if you switch off and Apep is used first you still have Dendro aura lying about

You either give them a Bloom or another reaction

[orchid summit]

That's why I'm asking for help

I haven't been able to defeat it yet

But I even learnt how to win versus Kaveh and Whale deck

[rancid plover]

Main issue about Apep is inconsistency

Kaveh is a no brainer with literally no action cards they use other than Kaveh talent

Apep lowrolling is what I'd say the biggest threat to it

In terms of decks, heavy Aggro to disrupt the set up but it's still tricky

Your best bet is an Overload nuke with Lisa's status

Getting Xinyan down is also a good start

[orchid summit]

I don't really think Xinyan is the most problem

For my deck it's more difficult when there is other monster instead of Xinyan

[rancid plover]

Apep deck without Xinyan is rather weird

Usually they're kept together cause that makes the job easier

It's the third unit who's been interchangeable

I say problem cause of her added defense, Pyro aura and 3-2-2 burst + the Festive Fires

She's still the most efficient character at Discarding there is

[orchid summit]

The only way to find out if it works is having a duel

[rancid plover]

I feel the general strat is just working fast enough

I'd help you test but we're on different servers and Apep isn't very popular nowadays it seems

[orchid summit]

It's not just Apep the problem

This card, I don't know what's its name in English

There has been some duels where I didn't understand ANYTHING

[rancid plover]

Oh Bonecruncher Energy Block

It got nerfed at least

With the Consec beasts

And again Apep isn't consistent and they affected the consistency a little more

[chilly basalt]

this is why I set all my games and devices to english
much easier to google things, or talk about them online

[late widget]

America server here, cant do much other than providing insight.

What Juju said, is pretty much the main point about apep's strat. disrupt with anemo/overload, or have a strong aggro. Yanfei x Lisa could help, but for how long is the question.

Barbara is kind of dangerous there, for the free dendro reaction with her "E" healer... If you fixated on using the same characters, is understandable, thats your gameplay, but to put it simple, you would have to rely on overload a lot.

[rancid plover]

Targeting Apep will be a bit tricky cause you don't bring it out unless absolutely necessary to draw a summon, if not then it's just on standby

Until reignited

And well they would still be doing some damage before then

[orchid summit]

This is my deck code
ATCA7SIPACCQ9EUPBZBA+l4PB6Ch+ysPEtGxAiwQCSFQW5sZGVHwC7wQE7FhDDYRDBAA

[strange escarp]

can anyone explain more about the lakelight thingy mechanics in the game??

[rancid plover]

Lakelight stacks accumulate whenever the character equipped gets damaged or healed, every 12 stacks grants a normal attack costing -2 unaligned dice, +1 damage and +1 healing

Obviously Furina is the best user of this

[terse delta]

Did yours arrive already? Mine says its still in cargo ship or something

[late widget]

do you need insight on what can be change outside of the chars?

[orchid summit]

Not really, I need information on tactics to use already in game

[late widget]

ok cool. lemme have a look

[merry merlin]

He already did an unboxing vid for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l5bTJnA8X8

[late widget]

Well... since your focus is only "strategy" rather than deck improvement, I would suggest to put pressure with lisa first... (will make it short and simple)

R1 apply conduction as much as you can with lisa.
R2, move to barbie (counterproductive I know) and use her elemental. if you have the option, move to yanfei and set up her first elemental.
R3, revenge damage with lisa or use her ult. If you have katherine set up at this point, go straight to swap between yanfei ansd lisa and use cards based on the situation.

The deck IMO... (again.. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION) is hard to maneuver. Is gonna take a lot of odds to have katherine soon wich is the main clutch for the pressure strat to work. The set up (weapons/artifact) is expensive, leading to more often than not, attacking only once per round if you want that extra punch. (luckily, after testing the deck, I dont see you must use weapons if you rely on overload and the conduction extra damage for lisa). the Good I saw on this deck is, It has a lot of "trick" that can lead to a "surprise MF" moment, but at the end, is your deck. If you happy with it, roll with it and be proud.

hope that helps.

[gritty belfry]

Yep made a video on it

[gritty belfry]

Lieil linked it

[terse delta]

Ooohg thanks I'll watch it now hehe

[orchid summit]

Thanks, I'll try

[boreal carbon]

Is this a new sudden patch like that one affecting Yelan & Treasure Hunt lol?

[last chasm]

We can talk about leaks in here?

Nice info, uncle Samach

[boreal carbon]

Well apparently not LMAO also I genuinely thought there was new patch notes/new updates

[late widget]

Did someone said "Leaks"?

DENIED!! 🚫

[crystal zinc]

I wanna thank staff for their great service to humanity today

[gritty belfry]

Wait did they ban him?

[last chasm]

Damn they really banned him

Anyway

Anemo woven is cancerous

I didnt get a single L at all

[chilly basalt]

how do y'all like the 4v4 mode?

I thought the TCG was wasting a lot of potential by only having 3v3
but I haven't actually tried 4v4 yet

[last chasm]

I dont know if they implement 4v4 in normal mode, but i love this heated battle mode

[late widget]

the mode is cool but I think is fine just for events. Not as perm feature

[gritty belfry]

4v4 actual tcg would be broken... case in point, barbara+furina with maidens, your entire team just never dies

[chilly basalt]

yeah, was going to say it's not balanced with it in mind

[rancid plover]

It also changes a lot

Like for starters the base number of dice should be higher I think

If there was actual 4v4

I think it's best they keep it as a temporary mode

[vivid cloak]

wouldn't that just die to xianyun ec + potato

[gritty belfry]

aoe is +4 and st is +2, so yeah, they need to rebalance everything

[edgy pewter]

Whatt

4v4 mode?

That could have so much potential

[chilly basalt]

how do we make decks for it, btw?

[terse delta]

Im seeing posts in bilibili and taobao… Keqing Grade 4 currently is the most expensive one coming in 2nd Ayaka and Ganyu grade 4s…

And i translated some comments… the prices of the grade 4s could go higher as time goes by while waiting for en release of genshin tcg

[last chasm]

The power of very popular waifu

[late widget]

in paper. But the whole game would've to be redesign.

I like it the way it is now. I would say leave the 4v4 thing for events or for fun/meme youtube videos

[rancid plover]

I agree

It's already a lot more complicated for newer players now than it was before so redesigning the whole game will make it more difficult

And just changing what we all know about it permanently isn't a good idea imo

[rough patio]

The game has been going constant evolution

[tough quail]

why did i put 4 bond, shouldn’t it be dmg -2? so 2 bond

if it’s a bug that’s pretty broken

[loud yacht]

it seems that it thinks you have her talent attached?

[merry merlin]

It is the total dmg done by the skill. She did 3 base, 1 extra on neuv from sc, and 1 piercing each to lynette and tao. 6 dmg total-2 is 4 bol

[tough quail]

ahah! thanks i didn’t know the piercing counts

[terse delta]

Mine is currently at customs… ill post here when it arrives and show which grade 4 i get

[gritty belfry]

Hope u get some good g4s

[late widget]

well, aparently season 6 tournament was the last of the year...

about 19 days before the years end, no additional tournament I see

Its been fun, frustrating and a learning exp these past months since I joined early 2024 for the tournaments. Hope they bring new tourneys too

[rancid plover]

Agreed

[terse delta]

I hope so

[patent ember]

I really CAN'T WAIT for the stuff I ordered

I got 3 boxes, 3 precons, and 2 accessory kits :)

[orchid summit]

Do you know anything about some tournament any time soon?

[steady cedar]

maybe astra carnival went out of business. I havent seen any tweet or post from them for months now

[last chasm]

Tcg is a mistake, every official tournament is canceled

[gritty belfry]

YoimiyaBonk

[stray void]

I'm just gonna say that it's been nice to meet all of you duelists

but guess our time is over

thank you all for the tournaments, the banter and the invasions

[vivid cloak]

trust they're just finally making a proper tournament pvp system integrated into the game

[drifting flume]

So what are the best decks right now, have not played in a while

[orchid summit]

Now they're using Sigewine and Rosaria usually to freeze, but last version decks are still popular. Xianyun, Navia, and many monsters

[drifting flume]

the monsters are all broken, What website do you use to see meta decks?

[gritty belfry]

https://www.summoners.top/en/teams/5-2

[orchid summit]

Is anyone willing to duel against me using meta? Europe server

[late widget]

one can only hope...

meantime, they bringing new cards and updates...

Clorinde/Mualani + other cards coming, looks promising.

others might be hatin' but well, thats just my opinion. Im a bit off the loop with how people play these past few weeks to rest/explore the new areas... Natlan is crazy

[steady cedar]

dang for CN only

but I think we will be getting a free card back? not sure

[steady cedar]

ok looks like we get it on patch day. Pretty cool We didn't really have a pink theme one yet

[late widget]

what does it say the banner?

[orchid summit]

The golden wolflord gives corrosion to enemies, dealing damage if the character is in reserve
I received damage even though it wasn't in reserve. Why?

[chilly basalt]

check what its talent card does

it most likely had it equipped

[orchid summit]

Ok thanks, new challenge

[safe ermine]

hey gamers, is anyone still playing tcg?

[late widget]

yeh. Its just slow season due to no tourneys

[safe ermine]

what decks are ppl playing nowadays?

[proven gyro]

stall decks

[orchid summit]

Sigewine is the Ultimate Staller

[late widget]

havent had troubles fighting decks with Sigewine tho... The thing about her is, it requires lots of support.

BTW, for those who dont celebrate, Happy Holidays!

For everyone else Merry Chirstmas!

[gentle stag]

Sigewinne stall decks feel easier to me than older stall decks with Barbara

[late widget]

if well build the deck that is... she has a very niche gameplay and is not as flexible as other characters.

[last chasm]

At the livestream, i saw Mualani skill only 2 cost (like Hu Tao) and it made her na to be 2 cost, while also only needs 2 energy to burst.

Seems like new broken character

[stray void]

tbf her kit is kinda weak (?) overall with most attacks not exceeding 2 on their own aside from the mark that adds 2 per stack, which can only be applied twice per E, and can only be applied conditionally using a Technique, so I don't think she's actually busted

btw before anyone tries to shoot me down: it's Creator Experience content
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1014733405783326758
(translation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT4hON7hPopZDEi4F8ay5jvO0aiDhdX_wT3nRMy4JUlrcmK7UnIM52ZBvdTlItOC7bScDuG5vQJnKQy/pub)

[last chasm]

Hmm.. seems like she gonna relying a lot on her summon

Ultimate surfing buddy gonna be her favorite action card

[orchid summit]

Is anyone willing to duel against me using my deck against meta? Europe server

[stray void]

it's confirmed
https://hoyo.link/80GCFBAL?q=2ENMOozGoPT

[steady cedar]

LOL mirror maiden come full circle first nerf and now reverted

Rosaria is dead now dang...

[crystal zinc]

she was never alive to begin with

[neon stone]

The guy rage ragequitted lol. I was just trying some new combo.

[steady cedar]

what am I missing? can't they just hit you and you die? they have 8 dice

[gritty belfry]

new xiao buff, he steals cube's revive

[vivid cloak]

I presume they watched through opp's perspective? since it's xiao's pfp being blown up like it's their loss

[steady cedar]

ohhh good catch. ok makes more sense now

[late widget]

Hello TCG comunity Happy new years!

Saw mualany and... she a menace. Once you find her ideal combo, is a menace.

[orchid summit]

Is anyone willing to duel against me using my deck against meta? Europe server

[stray void]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1LDrVYrE79/

[mighty field]

Can anyone help me with the Forge Realm Temper challenge?

I’m having trouble building a deck to deal with the second challenge. The one with the stone lawchuels and you take damage at the end of the round no matter what

[steady cedar]

i think I beat all the challenges with just bennet electro cube. Didn't have to change any cards

If you want something that solo deals with lawlchurl. Noelle's shield blocks physical hits more effectively

[orchid summit]

Amazing

Can somebody with Apep deck fight with me to learn to defeat it?

[vivid cloak]

if you're using the same deck as in the video you probably lack dmg to win the aggro battle and healing to win the attrition battle

[rancid plover]

Barbara can be a liability as well

If they go Apep first

Or otherwise you're gonna have to play it smart to avoid giving them a Bloom or such

It's still hard to say

[last chasm]

Back in my day, there was a tournament called Cat's Tail Gathering.

[orchid summit]

There must be a way to defeat Apep with that deck

Someone to help me try?

Europe server

[mighty field]

The issue frankly is not the monster itself. Rather, the challenge effect. At the end of the turn, all my cards get dealt six damage. it can be reduced with shield, as well as the effect of dealing damage during the turn itself. basically, anytime damage is dealt to either side, the end of term damage is reduced by one. I tried to use Nahida in this way. Her marked dealt an extra source of damage, therefore reducing end of term damage.

[vivid cloak]

simply put, if opp's apep deck is optimized, and they do a decent job at implementing their strategy with given rng, they have a very high chance of winning against your deck
in the case of a casual manner, anything is possible, and you may do whatever your heart desires

[late widget]

in general, you need either hyper healing or hyper dice generator, so you can attack more often in a round. I beat it if Im not mistaken with a whale, furina and yelan deck.

you can also follow the advice from the other players, Noelle is a good match

I beat it with this deck personally

FXAB0VwNERDB1WoNFeBA65cOCbBx7DQOE8BB8UgPFBGBO1cTC7FgS7sUC7GwC8MQDLAA

it has kirara, alhaitam and kuki

[stray void]

back in our day, we got our gold card backs through The Prince Cup

[north sequoia]

If you still troubled, I suggest to use chara big atk count like Alhaitam, Neuvi, Wrio and Clorinde. If using them, at least you could reduce all pierching dmg into 2

Additionally card helper like Tada! and fontaine resonance then some heal food

Or kaveh bloom pretty good too~

[last chasm]

Nah, we're good

[edgy pewter]

Whats the current meta?

Btw is there a really damn good deck with xinyan, random ass electro character, and some herald

[golden breach]

I think ppl say mualani is meta now

Tho in my honest oppinion, whale is better

[rancid plover]

Whale got nerfed hard though and it's harder to play now

Doesn't even work with Veteran's or MH anymore which was huge

[edgy pewter]

Fr sad 😦

[edgy pewter]

How ._.

[rancid plover]

She and Clorinde are what's hot in the meta rn

[zenith fossil]

Hi yall. How would I go about making this deck? (Keqing/Fischl/Ganyu/Mona/Oceanid) I just started PvE for the primos and have barely any idea of how things work. I'm player level 2 and played with all Mondstadt's open world's NPCs.

[timber sundial]

Hey so like am I the only one not getting sennight gauntlet rewards after coop matches and arena???

I'm player lvl 10 for extra info

[gritty belfry]

spend your coins, it caps at 20000

[orchid summit]

I think the best would be Keqing, Fischl and Mona/Oceanid. With them, you can spam invocations and electro-charge a lot, and you also have the electro cards avaiable

[timber sundial]

OHFUCK

thanks man

[zenith fossil]

I have got the Keqing and Mona cards as you suggested. I have two questions.

1. What's the rotation?
2. Where to get Action Card for the deck? Is there a code like this one? https://act.hoyolab.com/ys/event/bbs-lineup-qskp/index.html#/pc/detail/6622cb758f63810b6b1532f0

[orchid summit]

1. Keqing-Mona-Fischl, like that you can take advantage in case of overcharge.
2. You can buy cards by talking to the cat in the bar, and copy your deck code by tapping this button (sorry, the pictures are in Spanish)

[dim dragon]

Hey I am new to tcg, I am not able to level up the player level

[zenith fossil]

So basically Keqing skill > Mona skill > Fischl skill. And burst wherever necessary? Also do you have any recommendations on what action cards to buy?

[orchid summit]

Ah, no, I was talking about the order to put them in the deck
Use first Mona skill, to change as a fast action to Fischl. If the opponent doesn't notice, you can electro-charge in the first turn twice, first with the attacks second with the invocations

[orchid summit]

And in case the opponent bursts you, it makes you change to the next character
Keqing-Mona-Fischl is a great order to continue the duel after that

[orchid summit]

What characters are you using?

I can give you advice

[orchid summit]

Being your first duels, you can use cards with simply efrects, like the elemental artifacts, the two-dice weapons, and some food and places to get health
For that deck Liu Su and Tian could be really useful. And Vanarana is almost essential in every deck
Also, Send off and I haven't lost yet! can screw a LOT of strategies
Finally, Elemental Resonance cards are absolutely indispensable if you have two characters of the same element

[zenith fossil]

Many thanks!

[rancid plover]

You may be out of weekly challenges or need to ascend but you'll be able to level up soon

For pve,
shenhe sc: https://cards.keqingmains.com/shenhe_superconduct
shenemo: https://cards.keqingmains.com/shenhe_anemo
rxn: https://cards.keqingmains.com/nahida_overload
For single target bosses, just run bennett+talent

Some good PVE decks to clear content if y'all need

[dim dragon]

Diluc,fishil and ganyu

[orchid summit]

To win you need to have an strategy
With that deck you can start with Fischl and invoke Oz, change to Ganyu and use any attack; the next turn, use the five-dice attack. If the opponent has managed to avoid all elementary reactions, change to Diluc and spam the elemental skill

[dim dragon]

Tcg challenges are hard to complete, I am not able to level up

[orchid summit]

What server are you on?

[dim dragon]

Asia

[orchid summit]

Oh, then nothing. I'm on Europe

We can talk in private, if you want some help

[rancid plover]

I'd suggest trying the PVE decks mentioned, Sucrose can also clear most of them pretty easily

And well watching some playlists about general GITCG knowledge like from Blep

[dim dragon]

Ok bro 👍

[steady cedar]

Can someone razor explain me Mualani, All I see is swapping and swapping and then she dies. When does the damage happen.

[orchid summit]

When Mualani uses the elemental skill she starts shining. Each time she changes to another character (with her technique, she can do it without spending a dice), she adds a token to your character, accumulable. When Mualani or her invocation makes damage, each token make 2 more damages

[steady cedar]

Doesn’t her technique cost 1 dice? Then you have to swap back to her. Hmm 🤔 I guess something like kazuka would help. Do I just switch around and hope the burst summon will do damage eventually?

[orchid summit]

Actually I usually kill her before has the oportunity to attack. What I do is wait my character has many tokens, then change to other with no one
Because everyone use Mualani to oneshot, and they need 4 tokens for that

And yes, Mualani's technique costs a dice, sorry

[gentle stag]

I like to spread her stacks more evenly

[north sequoia]

Yeah, specifically one hydro dice for each technique which makes her pretty costly even for one hit kill

[slender tide]

Tcg tournament when🙏🙏

[earnest perch]

We're waiting

[gritty belfry]

Its been 4 months since the last one, and we dont have any news on whether or not they even plan on doing more

Your best bet is to join the gitcg discord but those are community hosted weekly tournaments and arent affiliated with genshin

[stray void]

PSA: idk if any of you are moving from TikTok to REDnote, but if you do (or your friend does), just know that you too can join in on the fun over in CN as Fonta Cup concludes this weekend
https://www.xiaohongshu.com/user/profile/66868cdd00000000030312a0
-# official miHoYo channel btw

[crisp saffron]

[fervent salmon]

no ctg anymore?

[gritty belfry]

[torpid orchid]

https://youtu.be/YfR-UA7SJjs

[main umbra]

https://youtu.be/maKjs5cAmkk?si=Ui_qzw2sR-rKzIGe

[static elk]

ok so

i am new to this game mode and i am not exactly what you'd call a board games gamer

i understand the card system and was just wondering if there were a few decks to strive for ?

like my end goal is all of the tccg achievements

[orchid summit]

Chongyun, Xingchiu and Razor, it's a really good deck and not that difficult to use, and it really helps getting the achievements

[static elk]

Thank you boss 🙏

[orchid summit]

If you need any help, tell me

[static elk]

Alright I shall, thank you!

[static elk]

Ngl I am getting hooked already, got to level 5 and doing all the player duels and challenges

It's not as bad as I was lead to believe it was

[stray void]

to be fair, it was never that bad if you're playing for more than just primos

it's just that progression-gate + lack of primos led to disdain

-# and let's not talk about the 3.7 incident

[static elk]

What da tuna is that

Ngl though I thought it was gonna just be a stake grind but like its a grind yeah but it's not stale I like the simplicity of it compared to actual board games

After attempting the tier 3 achievements for the local legends this is a nice respite as I can actually do this

[stray void]

Genius Invokation became the focus of the 3.7 flagship event, and part of it is actually playing the card game for primos

you can probably guess how people kinda hated that

[static elk]

Yeah I get it, I do get days where all I wanna do is press left click like a cavewoman

[lament vault]

https://fxtwitter.com/invokationtcg/status/1882960130079354925

[dim dragon]

Anyone tell me how to change the card back design

[orchid summit]

Here

You can also change the board

[compact epoch]

bleh

[dense lance]

https://youtu.be/UVw7hpsimbM

[timber valve]

😦

[main sleet]

its been a fun time

[worldly flume]

OPEN THE CHATS BACK UP

[deft edge]

it's listed as a youtube kids video :ayahah:

[dense lance]

Yeah i know, i just wanted to test what difference it made.

[knotty kite]

are not comments deactivated in kids mode?

[stray void]

uh oh

[stray void]

yeah most functionalities are limited for a video marked as "for kids"

[crisp saffron]

Not as fun as you

[fervent salmon]

since ctg chat deactivated
is it mean, ctg is dead for a long time?

[amber leaf]

Likely so, the mods or the event hosts have been busy. It will be back once there is a new season out

[main sleet]

which is next year

and Sorush golden card back

[stray void]

let's be real

I'd be super surprised if the Crown card backs arrive in some people's mailboxes in the next few days

if they are going to drop a Lunar New Year surprise, I'd be more than happy

[gentle stag]

tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Hoyo simply decided to stop giving freemogems for TCG events

[stray void]

it was never necessary for more than getting numbers anyway

most people playing CTG came for the card back and just dip right after

[worldly flume]

we need the ctg channels back !!

[static elk]

I srsly need a new deck for sumeru I am getting destroyed

[lyric rivet]

how

like what would even be the qualifications

[stray void]

the CTG points are not supposed to be for nothing

[lyric rivet]

so i get one for free?

yay!!!

[knotty kite]

you mean #cats-tail-leaderboard?

but it never got updated after s2

[stray void]

yeah I mean we gotta wait

[worldly girder]

EHEN IS NEW TOURNAMENT HAPPENING??? I M DYING HERE WAITING

[crisp saffron]

@left sparrow that's all you

[static stratus]

whats the current meta in tcg

[crystal zinc]

jadeplume terrorshroom

[static stratus]

is there a specific deck?

[chilly basalt]

I think they're trolling, not sure

if there was some fundamental shift after I stopped paying attention, I'm sorry 😅

[steady cedar]

I tried a few mirror maiden sayu, I think nahida/yae miko/furina is pretty strong. Then there is the random bennet deck and the usual xianyun or chiori decks. Crab overload is kinda back there not much counters.

but without a tournament there really no reason to play

[static stratus]

thank you I'll take note of these

[stray void]

have fun speculating, I guess

[modest wren]

Arlecchino kinda mid 😦

[agile plover]

does ANYONE know when the next tournament is happening even

[crystal zinc]

Billy ate it

[stray void]

Billy slander

[crystal zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1114750550462971955.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

my billy can eat what he wants

[static elk]

i need a new deck

[lyric rivet]

never

[static elk]

like i am getting rolled

i need one

[static elk]

Like i am starting to hate tcg

cant do the tavern challenes on ther serious show downs bec idk what works since nahida teams dont

[gritty belfry]

nahida is prob the best dendro unit, most of her teams just run 2 other elements to keep reactions up so her seeds can trigger consistently, u could send ur deck and get feedback on the other cards bcuz we dont know how good/bad your deck is and how to tailor it for you

[static elk]

Look I just need a deck to ctrl c and v I can play the game I just am not creative enough to come up with a deck

[gritty belfry]

https://act.hoyolab.com/ys/event/bbs-lineup-qskp/index.html#/pc/detail/6622cb758f63810b6b1532f0

[static elk]

Is there card that can remove special effects like ward and freeze?

[gritty belfry]

1. edict of absolution (arcane) can prevent freeze/petrification/swaps from sucrose, jean and overloads, but you need to preemptively play the card before the effects happen
2. for freeze specifically, you can play Ta-da to thaw yourself, at the cost of taking 3 physical dmg (1 physical + 2 shatter)
   not sure what u mean by ward, but if it's other debuffs, then there's no way to remove them

[static elk]

Well I was doing the stage in port ormos against those two abyss mages and I kept getting dazed over and over so I can't do 3/3

[gritty belfry]

oh that, yeah, no way to get rid of it unless u play edict

otherwise, just pass the round

[static elk]

I think I have an idea run 2 catalysts along side Nahida si ce their basics are elemental

[gritty belfry]

i would recommend alhaitham, his NA has higher dmg and he has access to lofi/sapwood which synergizes with NAs

[static elk]

Ok you might actually be God rn Ngl just did it with him and a turn free

[gritty belfry]

nah, i just play tcg more than genshin

and i havent played tcg in a while, i mostly just talk about it on discord

[static elk]

Either way thank you 🙌🙇

[boreal carbon]

Omg same🙊

[chilly basalt]

I used to play, now I'm confused by the MtG terms

did tcg add things called ward and edict?

edict is probably just part of a card name

(I know it from MtG to mean effects like "each opponent sacrifices a creature")

[crystal zinc]

edict of absolution is an arcane

[chilly basalt]

the neuvilette card? (I vaguely remember it)

[grand flower]

[distant mountain]

bruh how to register to tcg tournament

[stray void]

unfortunately we don't have one right now (and likely not for a while)
-# one of the partner communities does do tournaments though if you're into tournaments and not just the tournament

[south sierra]

any tips against the 3 herald? (every reaction give 1 onmi)

is even posibol in 3 round???

[south sierra]

i cant find the optimal team, heral before died get shield, 12hp each one, shield tank 2 hit

you have 3 round, potencial (without cards) 9 dices for round, if you do 3 reaction each round

if you activate hydro one, is 2 less dice (yes, they have the talent)

[gentle stag]

I did it with Mona, Fischl, Wanderer on max difficulty

[south sierra]

can share deck? I'm out of ideas xd

already 2h... T.T

[gentle stag]

I don't have the exact deck unfortunately (I changed the same deck between each challenge)

But I can show something that's close enough, if that helps

[south sierra]

yes 😄 that will help me

[gentle stag]

It was something like this

[south sierra]

ty 😄

[gentle stag]

np

[south sierra]

the other 3 stages was really easy, this last one is too hard, maybe? is that or i can see the optimal team xd

[boreal carbon]

That one is definitely annoying & frustrating if you use the wrong deck. I personally did it with Shinobu, Xianyun, Cryo Hypostasis. Xianyun swirls helps a lot

https://youtu.be/BNilGikYoQA you could try this one too

[south sierra]

ty for the video, i wont lie, i still stuck because the hydro one decide freeze my wanderer before i can finish them T.T i only need do 1 basic more

[gentle stag]

I just changed to Mona or Fischl to take the hit from hydro but I guess edict of absolution (anti freeze arcane) could help too

[south sierra]

yeah, did you know what funny? i have that card but just discard it to dices, because i say, i wont need it

xD, instant regret

[faint phoenix]

hey does someone have the physical cards? I just got mine and wanted to play with someone (using webcam or smth)

I have dice and all so if you don't have them we can just take note of the things or whatever

[random copper]

uh guys im new what's the meta

[crystal zinc]

WIN because you always wanna win

Wanderer Itto Nahida

[humble wagon]

wanderer itto nahida good setup you need to run a weapon deck bc both wanderer and nahida share the same type

so a lot of wagner

gameplan is like nahida seed then itto to build stacks+shield from rd 2-3 shenanigans and then wanderer to hit weak offield ones

it's really good tbh and fun to play so lmk how it goes when uou play it :)

[crystal zinc]

he gets it

nahida seeds do lots of aoe dmg

and the rest of the deck compliments that very well

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145217630924460123/1174547586246524938/bug_cat_nod.gif

[crystal zinc]

totally not a scam

[unborn oak]

It's a scam

[gritty belfry]

No, it's a WIN

[random copper]

madge

ill just one trick crab thnxs

[stray void]

@vale spire can you see #🤝partnered-servers?

[vale spire]

Yep

[stray void]

try again with the server slug in all caps

[vale spire]

?

[stray void]

so like the part after the slash, write that in all caps

[cloud panther]

Is there place for self-built deck trying to counter meta, bc I'm sick of seeing the same decks again and again

[vale spire]

Where do I type this

[shrewd bolt]

Ctg when

[main sleet]

next year

[shrewd bolt]

[lyric rivet]

next life

[steady cedar]

just give us free golden card back

[elder heart]

huh there's been many people getting hacked and posting shady links recently

[crystal zinc]

surely everyone knows not to click 50$ steam gift card links

[stray void]

what if we reverse invade CN

[craggy arrow]

tournament when

[stray void]

we are checking

[lyric rivet]

who's we

[stray void]

Tavern, probably
-# ||that was a Scuderia Ferrari reference btw||

[stoic dust]

has there been a tournament with card back reward recently

[stray void]

no

[humble wagon]

"has there been a tournament recently" "no"

[crisp saffron]

December 2nd, 2028

[knotty kite]

in Genshin impact 2

[stray void]

[celest magnet]

TCG tournament coming to the genshin killer aka wuwa

[stray void]

inb4

[native ocean]

does anyone know where i can find a plcae to play tournaments? (preferrably for welkin)

[deft edge]

google "gitcg discord server"

[lyric rivet]

real or fake

might have to start wuwa then

[celest magnet]

Fake sorry

I don’t think wuwa has tcg (yet?)

[lyric rivet]

😔

[knotty kite]

time to suggest them to do that then

[native ocean]

yay

[stray void]

Mr. Pillow we're literally in #🤝partnered-servers

[deft edge]

it's difficult to navigate that channel. faster this way

[torpid orchid]

https://youtu.be/Psg0rNle9As

[celest magnet]

Any deck advice? Ik I’m heavily reliant on talent cards but that’s about it

-# Also yes I really do need a lot of retuning cards lol

[deft edge]

G0ARxKQMG5DByb4NGuBx4acOFBCB4kgOGCAh9IIPG0Bx9rcWC5FgabYYE6FhijYcDMAA

R1 mulligan for card draw. start on sigewinne and ramp 8 or ramp 5 and sigewinne E
R2 chiori talent E and then ramp or perhaps start going to mualani
R3+ start killing using mualani

feeling the need for a lot of "retuning" (or dice-fixing) cards is a common beginner mistake and can be solved by increased card draw and dice generation

[celest magnet]

Should I add back sigewinne talent card? This deck revolves around summons which is why I use sigewinne + talent card

[deft edge]

i dont think you should, because sige's talent is relatively weak. the other talent cards are more impactful.

in general, most talent cards are not very good, and so you should treat them as any other card, i.e., you should include them in your deck if they are worth it, and not just simply automatically include them (which seems like what hoyoverse envisioned and tries to push, but isn't optimal in practice). in fact, most good meta decks have 0/1/2/3 and rarely 4 talent cards at most. having 5 or 6 is almost certainly bad

with that said, feel free to add it back if you want to build a deck that specifically revolves around certain talent cards

[celest magnet]

Well I’ll give your deck a try and see how it goes. Thanks for the suggestions!

[normal saffron]

Hello

How do I discard a card

[crystal zinc]

if you really really want to discard a card, it's gonna happen

you just need to wish hard enough

you need to believe in yourself

there's nothing you cant achieve in this world if you work hard enough

[devout anvil]

I believe you can discard cards thanks to other cards effects but otherwise, you can use a card to tune the element of one of your dice.

[normal saffron]

So only if it says ‘discard this card if/when you only have 3 cards left’ and stuff like that?

[devout anvil]

Unless I miss something with the rules, yes you need specific card

[normal saffron]

Ahh okay

Thanks

[devout anvil]

Or if your hand is at 10 cards

I forgot there was a limit, I've never truly see my bf reach it when he played TCG

Oh and there is a special rule concerning Support card because technically, you can Discard one you already placed on the board if there is already 4 cards. (so if you have for example already 4 Supports cards on the board and 3 Support cards in your hand, technically if you play them all, you can "discard" 2 of them but it will cost you the cost of each Support card)

I don't know if this was clear enough concerning the support part

But I'm curious to know why you want to discard cards

[normal saffron]

I’ve reached the limit before with a hand of absolutely useless cards and I was devastated when those 2 cards you get at the rounds end dissipated

The support part is clear yeah

I fixed my deck so there’s very few cards that become unusable but I still want to know just in case

[devout anvil]

Okay good luck with your deckbuilding o/

[normal saffron]

Thanks ⭐

[stray void]

just a quick note, cards discarded this way do not count as instances of Discard

the card will simply be voided and nothing will happen

[devout anvil]

Oh yes thank you!

I forgot it

[gentle stag]

I got all the shinies, nothing left to spend coins on

[south sierra]

i still left entire equipament and half support cards, but also i didnt do most of the npc fight in the open world

[boreal carbon]

Yeah we both need to wait for next patch to spend on something

[deft dagger]

Idk but sometimes my characters are low on hp ig like 1-3 + other person already ended the round…I want to place an end of round healing card like sangonomiya shrine but stuffs full, then I would be forced to discard cards

It’s a specific example but yup desperate times call for desperate measures 😭

[devout anvil]

If you use your cards like this, it will count as discard indeed and I can only think of one card which give bonus value for discarding 9 cards. So unless you actually build a strategy around it, I wouldn't think too much about discarding.

What do you play as main characters cards? 🤔

[deft dagger]

Most of the time depends on who I’m going against tbh but I do default to inazuma characters 😅 (Ayaka, Ayato, & raiden shogun) for the support card + trying to keep the costs low

Ngl it’s been a while since I played tcg tho been grinding thru exploration

[deft dagger]

Btw which card gives bonus that ur talking abt 🤔

[devout anvil]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Jeht_(Support_Card)

Anyway i'm not proficient in TCg in any way, I'm relying on what my bf showed me 😓

But I would really like to try TCG

[deft dagger]

Wait….wdym?

[devout anvil]

Oh sorry, I play with my bf account and I still haven't try to play TCG yet but it seems really fun so I would like to

[deft dagger]

I was doin one of the sumeru quests when I found abt it

(I was playing genshin for a while but I quit for a year or two when I got back into game)

But lowkey ngl the game’s confusing at the beginning

Also I’m a bit salty abt the the ley line looking support cards like wdym it’s unobtainable?!? 😭

[steady cedar]

copium? 🤔

[stray void]

you don't have to @ me like that 💀

anyways @crimson jay do you have any updates? (or are we deadge )

[steady cedar]

apparently CN already had their 5.4 tournament completed... We lost the first season already lol

[stray void]

someone pointed out that we lost the Astra Carnival Facebook page... we might as well say we lost everything at this point

[steady cedar]

This is just awful, they should just send the free versions of the card back to everyone like the fonta card back if they are not going to have any tournaments.

[gritty belfry]

just bring back tournaments

[steady cedar]

I would be fine with them just tracking the in-game matchmaking, let us see our score on hoyolab or something and then rewarding card back to the top whatever percent each patch

[stray void]

I'm not quite sure about this but perhaps this could go into a HoYoLAB ticket? except I'm not sure if they can

[steady cedar]

I remember there was an event there once where you just play the regular matchmaking i think it was the first 3 or 5 games a day and when you reach a certain win amount you got primo or something

so they done it before

[stray void]

wasn't that like a one-time thing though

[steady cedar]

ya just saying they have the ability to do something like that

[stray void]

like, there exists an entire portal in CN that they could use but they would have to modify quite a few things

and frankly saying it's probably pretty low in their priority list

honestly I'm not entirely sure how Battle Chronicles works (specifically the privacy settings)

but I do think that it could have been as simple as having a number

don't even need to show match log, just a single rating number is enough for most purposes

[steady cedar]

true and then we can make a discord bot that pulls that rating and we have a nice leaderboard

[stray void]

let's not get ahead of ourselves here

right now it's about figuring out the best way from a design standpoint to put in the rating

[steady cedar]

Even just an event that says 30 matchmake games a patch gets the card back automatically no rating system would be fine in my book.

[stray void]

...

alright, let's just step back for a second

right now, anything that can't be applied in CN can't be applied in Global

but there is one thing that does work in CN, and that is the Summit ladder

the catch is, that would require copying their competitive portal

it does appear that they have been able to disable some functionalities of the CN secondary server

but the question is: how are we sure that's all it takes

[torpid orchid]

https://youtu.be/ff9Ujvno-bw

[lyric rivet]

copium 😔

at least we got the participation tier enka card back

[tribal nimbus]

hey! so i began playing when this game mode came out, but then i dropped the game and i missed out on a lot of stuff. i've been wanting to get back to it but i've been super overwhelmed since a lot of new cards have come out since, and i have no idea where to begin.

would anyone be willing to help me get a better understanding of how the game works right now and the basic principles i need to keep in mind?

[gritty belfry]

i highly recommend these 2 channels, it's all the important stuff condensed into video form:

• https://www.youtube.com/@blepthecat/featured
• https://youtu.be/VtUiHQUcpkA

There's also the GITCG discord which has a more active discussion channel linked here #🤝partnered-servers message. You can start off by picking a character you like and building a deck around them, if u need help just ask around

[tribal nimbus]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! REALLY APPRECIATE IT!!!

[acoustic scarab]

Is Cat's Tail Gathering no longer running? We don't have a S1 2025 while the S2 2024 started around beginning of march

[stray void]

yeah it has been on pause for months now, some speculate that it's done for good

[cold cloud]

[stray void]

FYI: Creator Experience content is out - 5.5 cards, card effects and balance changes (excluding names thereof) are now public information

[deft dagger]

Wait why? 😭

[last chasm]

Can you share the link?

[gentle stag]

Kachina card is coming

[humble wagon]

are locations outside of cn not going to be able to get these cards???

[steady cedar]

Looks to be CN server only

[flint moss]

god fucking damnit

[echo ocean]

rip cat's tail

[rough patio]

I don't think there was an official announcement about CTG ending permanently for NA

[south sierra]

no way, i wanted a mualani nerf and i only see new cards to combo with her

also, Kaveh get another 5 cost card xd, a surprise 5dmg in seed

wait, i thing is the higher cost? if i not remember wrong, before was 4 the higher cost

Tecnique 2 dmg for 1 cost is absurd high (but the card cost 5 to equip)

• 2 Shield when equip, sound pretty op for stall decks, enable waste oponnent time and doing a lot of dmg

also hehe, i think with the new location card, i can finally build a full rng deck for casual play, and gamble every draw and every card effect xd (4 new card and 2 of then is rng, 1 swap hand with oponnent, 1 equip talent card that sound pretty op)

[gritty belfry]

All of the new action cards sound bad/meme aside from the food card, we got info for what it does from cn creator experience and it's arguably one of the best food cards for it's flexibility

Especially boat, that thing is 5 aligned, its unplayable

[south sierra]

i thing the boat cost 5 because is pretty op

if we dont count the cost for equip it

1 dice for 2 dmg, and stall the turn, enemy out of dices and probably they are low hp, enough to defeat all 3 characters

the swap hand probably got hotfix, cannot wait 1 change hand to 8 and eat 7 forbid know (the sumeru card debuff, dont know the exact name)(that one that -1 hp and draw a card, 1 per round max, cannot convert the card)

probably boat will be in crab, shenhe, or stall decks

[gritty belfry]

Its only 2 uses btw

[south sierra]

+1 use for every team the character enter combat

unlimited uses/charges

[gritty belfry]

Yeah and your opp is not sitting there doing nothing

[south sierra]

really sound for stall with barbara xd

i mean, if you equip it in turn 1, and dont get one shot any character (or equip in a turn that you know you can eat 5 dices and nothing will happen)

you have stall and dmg, 2 in 1

[gritty belfry]

By the time u spent equipping boat, xinyan can NA NA Burst with pilgrimage for 14 dmg across the board and she is not threatened for an entire round

[south sierra]

well, then dont equip it if your opponent using xinyan

i see the boat as situational item, if your opponent decide 2 liben or draw cards in turn 1, you can use boat (maybe i wrong)

[gritty belfry]

Im just using her as an example, i think using this card feels like just giving your opponent a free round to do whatever they want

[south sierra]

probably the boat will be play when oponennt have 5 dices or 6 (and you know they will need swap), and you want first turn next round

is that or just in stall equip boat after all artifact are in the game

dont know, i'm not meta player, so probably after patch release, search a little video in internet and see if have really a use or not the boat

[gritty belfry]

The only use i see for this card is if an opp runs whale and steals this card from you, then their whale is bricked

[south sierra]

i see a use if opp decide turn 1 instant end, using liben and draw card and that stuff