#🏗️ Affordable Build Commissions (experienced)
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when r u gonna do it
when my movie is over
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il go sleep soon r u gonna do it or tomorrow
interesting tutorial
20 min left
yeah
do you still have to go to sleep
if u can do i can wait if u wont il go to sleep when its 4 am
if its 3 am for you you should go to sleep
nah i mostly sleep at 4 am
go to sleep early i need to make a few things before i can start mass selling frumpy loader tutorial 😭
so ur gonna make it tomorrow
ight then

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@jolly sedge is the circle box thing a perfect circle?
I might’ve just had a insane revelation
Twinnnn
Builds above this message
@turbid fern update?
As you had see last time
All the walls have differrnt size
So isnt a perfect circle
Awwwww
mushroom can u do it now?
when u can do it bro
When I get home!!!
when u get homeee
It ain’t that long
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bro its been more than 4 hour r u wanna do it or nah just tell it
im still at schoollllllll
its 3pm?
im like an hour behind est
plus
they thinking of keeping ujs here becaujse oif the weather that is north of us
but they prob wont
school way too poorf for dat
@latent abyss ill ping you when im home but itll prob be an hour
what abt now
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@wide ibex can i buy the wardrobe?
would also love for u to build this table for a com 🙏
just a bp not filled
np
scratch that js need the wardrobe
vro
mb?
its ok
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/modern-furnished-warehouse-building-with-office-4e08a5f9cfc54805b57429ee24c18dea @wide ibex price range?
Available on FAB: https://fab.com/s/519455313262
Click for youtube video:
NOTE (as of 2023) To make this model more accessible for all: All licensed textures have been replaced by copyright-free (cc0) textures.
This project is developed in Blender 3.2.0
This is a modern industrial warehouse building with a furnished interior for Blender Eeve...
it can be downscaled, i just want the shape retained somewhat
yo mushroom
after like 1 hr i wanted to farm willow then this happened
it makes truck glitch and every wood to fall
ima go sleep tomorrow can u fix
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Can u make ma a plinko machine @wide ibex
I guess
When I get home
400k and you pay for materials
Ok
alr got it
@wide ibex lmk when i can get the wardrobe
r u gonna fix it soon
sonce i paid 400k just for it
ITS SUPPOSED TO BE
watch the tutorial vro
Like 😭😭😭😭
Look at the tutorial and look at the thingy I made
It’s literally identical
Ooo St. Louis arch that would be cool (I live in Missouri)
Yea I live about 40 mins from STL
Twin
Yes but it will be like really expensive cuz cars are INSANELY hard to make and take foreverrrrr
How much would you say it will cost me?
I think a have a 3d model
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Gah dang
Like petrified
Why do you even want that it’ll be like a bajillion schematics
That thang
I saw some ppl with it
Ain’t no god damn way bruh
I had smn building it but i think he became offline
Yeah I wonder why
Lol
wait u make cars?
if so u should make a s13
I don’t know what that is twin
nah i wonder why we want Mushroom business when she really overprice her creations lol
No I don’t
Lmao
I made you like some stuff and gave you most of what you paid me back 💀
Plus you didn’t have a reference for me to go off of
So I had to free style sum
@west oyster like hush it vro 👍
@wide ibex so r u gonna ever sell me the wardrobe lol
kinda js ignored me abt it yesterday
Yes twin
I would like to know howmuch it would cost to make a 2nd wall of 0,01stud in my castle for wallpapers
?
select ALL of the walls take the width (usually blue number) and put it in the thingy in the bottom right where you can input lke a number and put that number as the width and move it inside of the wall like towards the inside and then make it 0.01 of a stud by subtracting the blue number to make it 0.01 so like 10 would be 9.99
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@lunar mirage
I'm too lazy
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im literally on rn
join up, fhooled
srry i js got home from work
someone was sick so i had to go in
added
joi
yea
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thanks
@lunar mirage no resell
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dw ik
ok
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@wide ibex how much would it cost for u to make me a cave looking thing where the length is 200 and the width 40
ima def say itll be very expensive @sly mirage
yea but the size of it sucks
True
Btw the outside of it doesn’t have to be done
Wait
I gotta get a making plan for it tbh
True
it would probably be like 10m @sly mirage
@wide ibex could you make me a basic concertia wire that I can easily copy and paste like in these images?
yea
Thank you
wire or wall @royal halo
@wide ibex would you be able to make the donut factory full plot
what is a donut factory twin
Do you have a 3d model of it? @shell pond
@wide ibex no sorry
it would be really really expensive
How much?
how detailed would it bwe
@wide ibex I don’t mind if we don’t add the donut guy
idk what you would consider detailed the donut doesn’t need to be extremely detailed but still look like one
the donut isnt the only thing I have to make
I have to make a huge factory
@shell pond
Well lmk the price and what you would remove to make it reasonably normal to build
I can build all of it except the weird guy on the top
Ya I don’t mind the guy
So what could you do for price?
idk
@wide ibex could you make two hesco bastions (the block things in the images) like two on top of each other each of them the height of my character and the wire all by itself? Ignore the things circled in red
Like 5 blocks is my character height
And make sure to do the wire mesh please
im confused
On which
so do you wanmt me to make a wire mesh wall thing or a ouch wikre
Yeah just two things stacked on top of each othere
But also this separately
If you wouldn't mind
That alright?
i wouldnt mind
i could doooo like maybe 7 or 8 million since its a picture reference and a full plot factory 😭
How much and also could you dm me when done?
Like 350k I guess it might be more because it could be annoying to make
Payment after completion?
175k before 175k after?
Uh sure
But I was referring to the post saying if the price is above a million then it requires full prepayment
Wdym so is my stuff 350k?
Yeah
Add me my username is dxrkswat ill join u to give u the first payment
@wide ibex
Alright just tell me whenever
@wide ibex Ey mate!
Hi
i guess
With hold
Basically this build
Based around the Void Forest
How much you think it would be?
wtf is that
A military camp of some sort
o
Nothing too big, but with less parking space of course
dw about room for storage
I got a whole underground for a reason
ok
Ty
dm me @lyric vessel
Dmed!
@wide ibex
U think u can let me know if u can make a modern warehouse with a three layer basement
@wide ibex
How much u think it would cost
Can u just free build or nah cause i dont really have a reference
I can go find one tho
Yes sir🏃♂️💨
im a girl
Yea im cooked all these models are buns
Wdym?
Im not seeing any good 3d models
Oh
You can still use pictures twin it just makes it cost more
Ight lemme get the pictures
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queue is not even that bad tbh
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soon i was scrolling and lf places ans i chatted to save
oh
twin what? @sly mirage
Yeah
i can do it for 1.25m? @sly mirage
Hmm Lemme think abt it
Ok
How big would it also be btw?
How big would it be for that 1.25m?
@sly mirage Congratulations! You have reached 1000 points and unlocked the ACTIVE GOOBER activity role!
quarter plot
Alr
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50x50
So it would be 4x the price for full plot
that actually seems kinda small id do 75x75 for 1.25
Nah no need for filled
ok
Filled would be like 2m lol
no
How much then
itd be 100k + material costs from davstar
Fair
yea
Okay
ok
@sly mirage i dont want to rush you but i need to know if i should put you in the queue or not
I will prob do the 75x75 one but I gott agent money
But I can get the money ina few days cuz I am not playing on phone on vacation sorry
75x75
Here it was 1.25m tho
ok
@silver fern did you ever get them pictures
@royal halo
@sly mirage btw did you decide if you wanted that cave
Oh Nah that cave i don’t need anymore it was just to weird to have an autoloader/unloader in a cave
Hello, I need some things built for some industrial buildings I am making. I’ve been looking around for some 3d models that would fit in my build. If these are something you would want to make, let me know and I’ll start deciding the dimensions for them. For the models with two versions of the same thing, I only want the non-rusty version of it.
Pump station: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/rusted-pump-station-7e01afa8037b413f8c8d88b11467c3bf
Oil storage: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/oil-storage-with-pump-station-640ea2e1f53c485e9f79b68ab68fb3bf
Machine: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/industrial-machine-49940d093f744b68a90a3efb12c72b07
Industrial device: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/industrial-device-54b982fff0b94facacf91cadbd470c87
Gas separator: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/industrial-gas-separator-0022511e43344a279ceb89fa36ac8851
Rusted pump station model for industrial visualizations. 4k PBR textures and materials. 3ds max 2018. Corona renderer 1.7 Vray 3.6 - Rusted pump station - Buy Royalty Free 3D model by maxpsr
Oil storage midpoly model for industrial visualizations
Regular painted and rusted
4k PBR textures and materials
3ds max 2018 Corona render 3, Vray 3.6 and Blender 2.82 Cycles files included
Non overlapping UVs. - Oil storage with pump station - Buy Royalty Free 3D model by maxpsr
Machinery device for industrial visualizations. - Industrial machine - Buy Royalty Free 3D model by maxpsr
Machinery device for industrial visualizations.
4k PBR textures and materials.
2 textures set: regular painted and rusted.
3ds max 2018 and Blender 2.82 files included.
Corona render 3 and Vray 3.6 - Industrial device - Buy Royalty Free 3D model by maxpsr
how detailed do you want all of them to be? @pliant cedar
I want a high level of detail, but they don’t have to be perfect copies of the models
If you do want to build them, could I start of by ordering the gas separator so that the rectangular frame is about 20 x 20 x 30? How much would that cost?
idk what thing youre talking about
so not perfect copies but high level of detail?
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind if some of the smaller details are removed, so long as it still was reasonably detailed
Ok
i can make all of them
Alright, thanks. I’ll give you the dimensions I want each of the things to be, in the format width x length x height. The size is just a rough guideline, do what makes it look like the model.
Pump station: 40 x 20 x 15
Oil storage: 10 x 25 x 10
Machine: 15 x 50 x 12
Industrial device: 15 x 30 x 16
Gas separator: 20 x 20 x 35
Could you give me an estimate of how much each of them would cost, and roughly when you'll be able to start working on them?
Uh
@pliant cedar I’ll dm you the price and stuff
But I’m at school right now
The individual machines could range from (minimum) 250k to 600 (max) though (like all of them will have a diff price ranging from that)
That pricing works for me
That's fine too, the things are pretty complex
Ok
I’ll tell you in a sec I have pretty bad Internet in my first and second period at school :l
Take your time, I'm not in a rush
bro can u make basement like infinite castle demon slayer?
What is infinite castle demon slayer
wait a sec
Ok
Can you give me the link to the model
Are you still looking
cant here
@wide ibex no lol
😭
You never asked me to make anything else though twin
Maybe para could help you twinzino @median ferry
Idk
I honestly don’t know if they do commissions still
Or at all
Ooooh
Not sure if she does commissions anymore though or if she even plays the game atp
That’s ok
Oh
Nah it's not okay cuz i can't fill it, hard for me to tap the spots
do u think u could build a industrial air unit
What do those be looking like
one sec
Yeah I need a better picture bro
lol
hahahaha
how you doing bro?
I’m doing ok
good good
Do you want me to build something
think you could build the fnaf 1 plushies?
Idk
Isn’t that like two boxes on top of each other twin
its a air unit
TWIN
back
I could do it I guess
Ok
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It depends which one of the ppl I got to make and I thought someone already made fnaf plushies and the animatronics
i made the animatronics and i tried asking them but never responded
Oh
@wide ibex can you show me your past work ?
It’s in the post somewhere
im lazy, ill trust you based on the words , give me a second ill try and find a 3d image with enough informations
Ok
@wide ibex what do you think fam
😭
Yea imma check something else, mb
Is that Bloxburg twin
yes twin
Bloxburg have some sick design ngl
i dont play that game , but dang , they have cool design
Fair, ill see something else give me a moment twin
Sketchfab have some plain white un original designs
or i just dont know what to type in order to search
Hell nah 😭
What about this @wide ibex
For the trees ill just get the living axe and place normally
its a speed build lol
yea its a tutorial
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ill pay generously
tell me how much space you would need so i can empty the place
since id want the base to be faced on this direction
Uh quote for what?
uhhh
A quote for what I was wanting built, so I have an idea of how much it would cost me. I'll send the 3d model
ok
It's a big file, sorry it may take a while
The rock foundation doesn't need to be built tho. You'll see what I mean when you see the model.
i need a pretty small log cabin
yea they are
eh ur better off building it urself tbh
it's kinda easy i think
Maybe take a look at the model I sent? Maybe it's something you can com this person for?
This model
Uh idk how im supposed to look at that I need a link to the sketchfab or whatever and I have a cabin that I have permission to sell to you if you wanna buy it
Hey man have you made pipes or anything similar
Unless you want me to make one
im about to have to
Someone wants gas industriual thingies
I started them but it’s so tedious on console
oh
hm i can't open the file
Oh sorry here's the link, my bad.https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/log-cabin-free-download-2657189dbdff49fdb20ba33d6ebd5c52
This is just a log cabin from a scene Ive been working on check out the full scene on my artstation https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Ye2n3Y
Textures are low res so I could fit it all into a small file size. - Log Cabin (Free Download) - Download Free 3D model by Kless Gyzen (@klessgyzen)
its ok
@wide ibex can u build this stairs?
😭
but without the stone thing
what
is whos commission
the gas pump industrial ts person or
someone else
this is the space
oh
Ooooof
is that from royals warehouse thing
yea xD
thats crazy 😭
So mushroom, could you build that cabin without the stone foundation? Also how much would that set me back? No schematics filled.
@wide ibex
The gas stuff
I’m actually gonna do something separate ima dm ya
his commission is 2m but hes getting like 5 different things that are huge so idk if you really wanna do that
im finna be home in 20 minutes yall
im riding da bus twin
Hell ya better for the environment
sip and drive
i actually hate that i have to fill every block in with a material
20 percent building and 80 percent filling ts up
Real. Getting material is the "fun" part
@wintry wraith dm me
@clear notchdm me
@cerulean pagodadm me too ill talk to you about the mansion thing
@wide ibex would you be able to recreate the lumber tycoon 2 thumbnail base()
yea I could do it @high raptor
how much would you want for it?
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idk
alright well lmk, im gonna try to find more refrences
ok
@high raptor did you find more references
oh yeah
just from the games page
than this video has some footage of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_dnszYt1Ro
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from like 3:20
yeah
oh
thats very good tbh
i mean ik in the post it says 1m for full plot size but ong its so simple i honestly cant be bothered charging a million 😭
didint even see that
oh
alright
i put you in the list ill make it tommorow maybe dm me tho so i dont forget
@high raptor
aight
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@wide ibex how much would this cost to commission https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/concert-hall-880a988712044554b4077412f676de3a
Concert Hall from my game “Lords of power”. One of the buildings for building your own city. Low-poly, color-palettes, no animation.
For tile 20mx20mx30m.
You can freely modify it and use in all of your games.
Optimized graphics: polygonality and very small textures 8x8 pixels allow you to use models in all game engines.
Correctly I...
like 160x200
Uhhhhh
Like 4m
@gilded fox
that includes filling?
Uh no
Filling is like 100k plus whatever the cost of materials are for whoever I find to get materials since davstar isn’t doing it anymore
@gilded fox
Oki
How much will a jam maker cost?
Is it from a tutorial
Uhh if a tutorial makes it easier sure.
I don’t know how to make a jam machine bro I would rather use a tutorial
You have to send it in DMs I think
Sent
i sent a dm @wide ibex
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well i build one now
?
Are you tryna sell that in my post or what?
just showing
That boy ain’t responded in ages mane
That’s literally at the top of my post like from months ago
That was in may twin 😭

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@wintry wraith
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@wide ibex yo, i have a question
yes
So, a friend was making me a halo helmet statue
He got a bad situation with oaklands
And now he's gonna be off for a while
He left me the work he alr did
Are you good at making statues?
i can try
Lemme send you photos of how it looks
what happened with your friend
awwww craneo 🙁 i heard about that
Yeah
that looks pretty finished
I know but it has some things like without finishing
Oh it's okay
Mushroom how to make good looking rocks to like big walls when you wana build somthink on top
I mean just nice loking rock to mountain
?
@wide ibex i got the money ready
Ok
Ok gimme
Idk how to explain it
@cerulean pagoda I forgot what you wanted me to build
Nvm I remember
frieren abandoned castle
Oh
@uneven lantern do you have more pictures or a 3d model
So you found pictures of the castle but not the world download?
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@uneven lantern can you try and find a world download on mc? I can try and find one but it will be super expensive
yeah
how much
Ok
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Twin 🥀
I remembered
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Idk
I don’t really build stuff in order and I kinda take a break from building one thing and do something else or get distracted super duper easily but it usually doesn’t take that long honestly unless I’m insanely busy which I’m really not ever but things do happen so yk
@cerulean pagoda I need you to pay me the 4.1m
Huh
And I gotta find someone for materials
All of it ?
Idk I ain’t good at estimations twin icl
Houses do take a while tho
Like a couple days probably idk
I just finished a warehouse and ima do a cabin 2day and probably something else that’s kinda small
I cant do it , sorry
Unless you want me to do the cabin and try to work on the house you want
Yea , i do not like to work
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@uneven lantern did you find it?
@shell pond do you still want the donut factory cuz ima take you off da list if you don’t respond dude ;-;
I’m good thanks didn’t realize on was on the list
Oki
nop
let me talk with some people before saying if ill indeed want the build or not
Ok
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i wonder whos build is next 🤫
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haii mushroom, do you make cars or (mildly complex) robotics as well?
@wide ibex I have a complex commission that I can pay later on Friday (2 days later) as I have no time to earn oaklands cash. Max I can pay is 150k right now, but I can grind up to 500k on the weekends.
i can make a car
Would this model be a challenge?
is that a 3d modewl
@chrome lagoon
Ive checked if there is a 3D file but it seems they only provide pictures around the model
can you give me the link to it
@chrome lagoon\
okay
@wide ibex check my dms again
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i hate to break it to you but you are not a skilled builder
you are below average
Uhhh ok cool ty for your opinion it matters so much 💀💀🥀😭
Wait.. didn’t you dm me asking for a build? Uhh I thought I was below average?
That’s crazy bro
I would never
@unreal bramble
Ty for bumping my post btw
yeah and when i asked you thats when i found out that you are below average i hope that helps
Bumped my post again ty and you are also a “builder” but you’re asking another builder to build for you
He dmed me asking if I’m a skilled builder and when I told him to go here and look at the pictures that I’ve sent here he said nevermind
Now he’s not only in my post for no reason bumping my post for me 😌
I don’t know why he’s in my post saying I’m a below average builder when he hasn’t even shown his own builds nor does he have a post for building himself
I think he’s just projecting tho
Maybe he’s insecure over his own building and has to go in others post and say his very very veryyyy important opinion 💀
@paper tusk
@unreal bramble
Go ahead and please bump my post once again ❤️
stay mad boo
I guess I’m mad from you coming in my post and saying I’m a below average builder LOL
just the facts
sorry if you cant take the truth <3
and by bumping your post im letting more people know not to hire you as a builder
Mmmm is that allowed? I don’t think soooo
is scamming people by calling yourself a skilled builder also allowed?
And nobody cares abt your opinion it’s YOUR opinion
people that know real skilled builders agree with me darling
Oh I’m a scammer now damn
That’s crazy
Oh because people that act like how you act know and have a lot of skilled builder friends
Bazalright
Lmao
I must tell everybody that calling yourself a skilled builder is scamming!
That means you’re scamming too @unreal bramble
I’m not mad
You’re the one in my post
not only you were mean to me when i politely asked you to show me your previous work now your also mean just because im telling you the truth
yes you were
When was I ever mean to you
instead of showing me your work
you forced me to search for it
not caring about a potential person that you could build for
and then you said "gl finding someone" just because i said that im not interested anymore
saying that is optional honey
you should've just accepted that i didnt like how you treated me
im not?
I didn’t treat you bad
im just showing you that you were mean bc you asked me to
Come on dude you’re in my post arguing with me but you’re not mad
Get over yourself twin
if you still dont see it you are the one mad here
I ask everybody to look in the post
It’s easier
Rage bait + also against the rules + screenshotted lol
ur lwk weird :/
I’m lwk weird
@unreal bramble where else was I mean to you I’m still curious
I don’t think bro got anything else to say:(
what now
@unreal bramble idk bro I just thought you were gonna atleast try to point out where I was mean to you
You did come into my post though
And now you seem to not wanna be in my post
Interesting
Twin you showed me two examples where I wasn’t being mean
I want you to show me a real example
Unless you can’t because I wasn’t ever mean to you
Like 💀
Ooo I reacted with a skull
What a horrible act honestly
Be so fr
Find an actual time where I was directly mean to you @unreal bramble
ur saying that im mad and ur still talking
Yet you’re responding but alright guess I can’t speak in my post artie said so
@unreal bramble said it wasn’t funny so I can’t laugh I was about to but @unreal bramble said it wasn’t funny
all i said is to stop talking to me
not in your post
bc your wasting my time
and ur kinda embarassing urself
soooo
and why are you typing again
when i told u to stop
its not worth it
I’m so embarrassed that someone came into my post and got mad at me LMAO
I’m sorry you’re so insufferable it’s actually laughable
Ooo that was so tuff can you tell me to do more stuff plsssss it was sooooooo tuff of you 😩
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Yeah I already responded to that Artie
You avoided showing me when I was mean to you
That’s kinda embarrassing imo
Smartie pants 🤪
Vro is so arrogant he can’t even realize when he’s lost 😔 @unreal bramble crazy bc it’s in the big 25
@unreal bramble ez
@paper tusk ez
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@wide ibex how much is it for u to build these 4 flowers?
I know but it’s easier to copy paste em then get em
But it wouldn’t look like the flower
Fair
Could u just make some kind of flowers lol
they gotta be like size of one Ingame tho
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yo sorry i just wake up
i was wondering could you make this perhaps?
Uh
Isn’t there a guy making Pokémon right now?
yea but i wanna see other people also do it since ive been waiting almost a month is so just wanted to see
i never said i stopped asking him im just waiting but i wanna buy from others too
Why do you wanna buy from others too
yo when you will be able
Idk
I’m finna go to school
can you do this
ohh
Yeah do you have a 3d model
That isn’t a 3d model
because i got money and love rhyhorn
why would a "skilled" builder need a 3d model in the first place
Because it helps and I prefer it durrr
Vro is still in my post yapping about me he must be obsessed or something
are you able to tho or? just wondering ^^
I really dk I’ve never made a Pokémon b4
Plus davstar has experience with making Pokémon
He’s really your best bet imo but if you want me to I will
Try
calm down that was just a simple question
i mean it can be a learning moment
no need to be mad again
😂😂 all good fam ✌️💙
😂 not mad at all 💕 hope you’re good tho ✨
@unreal bramble
Yeah
is tthis real?
Uh what