Krreeee's logic shenanigans

[jovial brook]

nice

[jovial brook]

kinda strange how you made exactly what i was going to need

[rugged wigeon]

i read your mind

[jovial brook]

lol

now i can use it to make the shower work in the house im making

[rugged wigeon]

Low taper fade

[rugged wigeon]

@golden frigate

[golden frigate]

/giverep

it uh

[rugged wigeon]

oh thats an oakspace post hold on

[spring osprey]

Uh oh what is that in the background

[rugged wigeon]

Ban me frfr

[celest pond]

are you using nasa computer? :P
thx u for making me motivated 🫂
also i wanna ask where do i check to learn about stuff that u known? the pacman image rom, search comp etc... and that wall of wires

[rugged wigeon]

oh sadly there isn't that much ressource online i had to figure it all out by myself

[celest pond]

hmmm can u tell me about the stuff here? im fascinated

[rugged wigeon]

what do you want to know in particular?

[celest pond]

all of that xD

i dont know about RAM, Display, search stuff... kinda green to it. only know about throwing blocks around with logicgates

[rugged wigeon]

oh tbh i use fancy word for stuff but most of it is really simple

it's a matter of displaying what you want and just make stuff react together in certain ways

[celest pond]

u can tell me the concept and i will figure it out 👀
like what is a ram and how stuff hold data etc

[rugged wigeon]

the specific screen you're talking about is a simple data storage you can go trough

it just stores stuff in num interface

and let you navigate trough it by changing where your "cursor" is

as for the searching you just input numbers and it compares them to the numbers that are already in there and give an output based on that

[celest pond]

still a bit vague. need more teaching x-x

[rugged wigeon]

bunch of and gates

you send a number into all of them at once

the one that had the same number lights up

[celest pond]

hmm so the idea is setting a bunch of 0 value logic gates with boolean type in mind, and sending bits to it to store as 0 and 1...
and them SomeHow extract that 0 and 1 and SomeHow count that into position and direction?

[rugged wigeon]

boolean is rarely the solution for this game's logic

using decimals is way more efficient

for a LED display you can use bits but to store that data its best to store it as decimal and then convert it to binary

[celest pond]

can u tell me about decimal? i only know about binary and boolean

[rugged wigeon]

so to display anything there's 2 main solution

LEDS wich can turn into any color based on the number you input into them

and Billboards wich can display any image from sending in an image id

so what you want to do is pretty much bring the correct numbers to the correct place

and move them around in whatever way you'd like

[celest pond]

hmmm u know any challenges listing site for me to do and learn by step by step? like it get slowly from basic to hardcore stuff. my "level" is around as basic as it could be. i only able to throw stuff around with logic gates for now x-x.

[rugged wigeon]

start with a simple display , something that's used in 99% of my project is a matrix decoder

[celest pond]

my "Best" creation so far was tictactoe (and i lost the blueprint 5 years ago_

[rugged wigeon]

like just make a 5x5 wall of Leds and try to make a point that can move around based on user input

[celest pond]

aight challenge 1, get enough money to build a few led and play around with it

[celest pond]

yesss thx u

[rugged wigeon]

should cost ~35k

[celest pond]

well, i barely able to buy a conveyorbelt is my current state XD will get there sometime

[rugged wigeon]

yup even tic tac toe is enough to sell as logic

people would prob pay alot for this

[celest pond]

sniff, if only i dont lost that book (handwriting). will make again later. i rmb it was very simple but require u to create some wiring packs first, like Lever but in logicgate, signal alternate etc...
the blueprint was like 1 block time 9, and the wiring behind is like trying to find 3 in a line and based on the "corlor" of the line, tell who win. and it work with 2 simple stuff. A switcher wiring pack (sr latch again i think) (so ppl play alternatively on 1 board) and signal locking pack (sr latch i think), and an extra resetter

[rugged wigeon]

yeah that works nice did you use 14 seg for the display?

[celest pond]

i dont do display, i use the Line itself. XD it light up if it has energy/signal went by lol

[rugged wigeon]

this type of checking works on small scale but you could run into some issue with larger one as sometimes multiple combination can lead to the same sum

[celest pond]

yea if i do a caro on a big board then hell broke loose..

also can u tell me what is the idea behind that TPS counter of urs?

[rugged wigeon]

the frequency and hz clock gate behave in a different way to tether clock

basically if you set it to 10 pulse per sec

they'd try to do it no matter what

so if the server lags

they'd still try to do them wich leads to inconsistency

on the other hand tether clock run at the same speed as the server

if the server slows done the tether clock slow down

wich makes it 100% reliable

so what i do is i measure how many time the tether clock managed to trigger in 1 second (the 1 second is handled by a frequency)

[celest pond]

so u use something that run with game's speed, and use something that doesnt run with game speed, and subtract them to find the ping?

[rugged wigeon]

yeah i use something that runs at server speed and measure how many times it triggers during a real life second

[celest pond]

hmm also what is a tether clock?

[rugged wigeon]

i call it a tether clock but it doesnt have to be tether

the game run at 60TPS

wich means if you line up 60 gate in a row it will take one sec to go trough all of them

so each gates takes 1 tick aka 1/60th of a second (~0.016667s) to process

so if you just loop a few gate together you get a clock

[celest pond]

hmmm u can subtract/compare that data with a subtract gate (available in game) right?

[rugged wigeon]

yeah but that isnt really how i do it

i am not comparing how many time the tether clock and the frequency managed to activate in one second

i am using the frequency to BE the second

[celest pond]

so like u set a "start" with it and end when it "stop", u count how many "flash" did the "tether clock" did?

[rugged wigeon]

yup

you can even use a button for that

[celest pond]

oh yea a button have fixed trigger time XD

[rugged wigeon]

yeah it stays on for 1 second

[celest pond]

ehehehe thx u 🫂 tmr i will have many thing to do ^-^ my love for logic stuff and coding and writing flushed back 💝

[rugged wigeon]

[celest pond]

i just made a switcher in #1368997298935435324 , if u have time, pls check if u think it would work :3

[rugged wigeon]

rn i'm busy with the competition but afterward imma start to use the display i made recently to ascend to another universe of logic lol

[celest pond]

Lol good one and have fun :D

[rugged wigeon]

selector that switches output each time you press a button to chosse where to route materials?

[celest pond]

hmm it is for a laser type. if a wood cross the laser it trigger the "click" and then the path to the "gate" is changed.

[rugged wigeon]

ill soon need to make my own assembly language to run code in the terminal

[rugged wigeon]

oh so it distributes the wood?

[celest pond]

it is to make woods line up from 1 input line to 3, in horizonal, and then there is a conveyor below it to push it away, stacking 3 + 3 + 3 to make nine, and then "push" that 3x3 layer on to the LARGE box

[celest pond]

yuss

[rugged wigeon]

kk

[rugged wigeon]

hard to standardise the wood

[celest pond]

we have sawmill which can help with the height

i do have 1 complete machine on LT2 but when i start it, server freeze

and conveyor belt broke 😂

i will post the legacy picture of my simplified machine.. well i didnt capture the part where u can see the name of the gates

[rugged wigeon]

yeah LT2 turns into mush very fast lol

[celest pond]

this is 1 of my 5 projects

[rugged wigeon]

love the duped axes 💀

[celest pond]

yes lol

so in short, wood in, laser detect and close Entrance door, laser measure and trigger a bunch of sawmill, chop it and then when it done, open Exit door, wait until the last wood block exit, close Exit door and open Entrance door

[rugged wigeon]

do you know about the crates?

[celest pond]

crate in Lt2? i dont see any... only in OL

[rugged wigeon]

yeah in oakland

[celest pond]

yea at light house. and the size is 3x3

[rugged wigeon]

uhhh

i meant the other ones

[celest pond]

which one? therez mini, small, medium and large? or u mean the decor?

[rugged wigeon]

the one you can scale and store item in

up to 250

[celest pond]

i dunno. only hours ago i discovered that i can scale conveyor belt XD

[jovial brook]

how many types of crates are there?

decor crates, schematic crates, purchasable crate with certain item inside, crates that you can open and close, shipment crates

[celest pond]

i dont even know all the item in the oak shop yet x-x. im very NEW to the game, less than 24 hours playtime

[jovial brook]

yea

i was just mentioning how there were a lot of different types of crates

although the one kreeee is talking about

is a storage drawer

[rugged wigeon]

welp

[spring osprey]

Huh?

TEST LOADING

[rugged wigeon]

pulses when you load your plot

[spring osprey]

Ah

[rugged wigeon]

a

[jagged girder]

Welcome

What's your username

Ill fund your logic introduction

[jovial brook]

Sounds like someone who wants to hire someone for a business

[celest pond]

spare me sharks xD, my VGA keep dying randomly and until i have a job to get money to fix it, nothing will advance anywhere

[jovial brook]

this happens after the plot fully loads in?

[rugged wigeon]

i think so yeah

[jovial brook]

well then

i guess you solved a problem without doing much lol

[rugged wigeon]

carry on calculator

kinda like binary but 5 000x more efficient

uses a bunch of glitches

[jovial brook]

lol

if that thing really works after it fully loads

the game already knows when the plot loads in

and hoofer can figure out when to unanchor everything that needs to be unanchored

[ancient meadow]

What is this does 🤯 ?

[rugged wigeon]

you know how you can only do number with 15 digit max?

[ancient meadow]

Yes ikr

[rugged wigeon]

this is an adder that can do infinite digit

[ancient meadow]

Incremeter can do that ?

[rugged wigeon]

they can only go up to 999 999 999 999 999

[ancient meadow]

Wth u need that amount of number 🤯

[rugged wigeon]

yup

because i use it to encode stuff

you can only fit 7 letters per interface for example

[ancient meadow]

I wish i can log in roblox so i can check it out ☹

[rugged wigeon]

this is 90 digit

999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999

[ancient meadow]

Mindblowing

[dim yarrow]

omg what this bro

[jovial brook]

I’m confused

All this time I’ve been thinking I’m stuck at 15

How does that thing work?

What makes it not max 15 numbers

[rugged wigeon]

it splits up the 90 digit into 6 group of 15

then it adds all of that up

and carries on

[jovial brook]

Ohh

[ember jackal]

Isn’t typing the code gonna be an insane pain tho if you want to program it yourself

Like using buttons to type in my experience is really bad

[rugged wigeon]

ill keep the function short

also i can autocomplete

[ancient meadow]

Is this same in game max is 1e+308 before turn to infinity ?

[rugged wigeon]

theres just a 15 digit limit

[ancient meadow]

Ugh

[rugged wigeon]

wich can be bypassed

[ancient meadow]

This wire is send 309 digit. So in game not work like that , almost 1 month im not playing oakland 😭 even not touch the egg event

25d ago

[rugged wigeon]

if you need more than 15 digit there's alot of ways

[ancient meadow]

Not need it yet, just having fun with logic stuff. Tbh i hate to wire more than 50 port display

I did the circuit for snake but look at that port disppay 😵‍💫 im not going to finish it

[olive lodge]

Anyone know how to make animated lights?

[rugged wigeon]

randomized?

clock into a randomizer into a binary

then you relay it to choose the color

[olive lodge]

Ah

I don't think I have enough room for that

Ah

[rugged wigeon]

or clever wires

[olive lodge]

Where binary?

[rugged wigeon]

logic shop

right next to the door

[olive lodge]

I'm not seeing it

[rugged wigeon]

regarde mieux

[olive lodge]

?

[olive lodge]

What

[rugged wigeon]

look better

[olive lodge]

Nothing Says Binary on it

[olive lodge]

I found it but which one do I pick

In or out?

[rugged wigeon]

wichever one turns number into binary

[olive lodge]

I'll just get both

[rugged wigeon]

yeah

[olive lodge]

Do I use an interface?

It's working

[rugged wigeon]

nice

[spring osprey]

btw did they change the discord names recently?

all the names are glowing

looks cool

[mint musk]

there was a new update

[spring osprey]

sick, it looks really cool now

[mint musk]

fr

[rugged wigeon]

dah hell

32 BIT overflow

[jovial brook]

lol

[spring osprey]

oof

thats weird

[rugged wigeon]

or gate doesnt have tht behavior , day is saved

[spring osprey]

good lol

[rugged wigeon]

it just keep 32 bit out of any number that goes past 32 bit

thats why the number is so random

[spring osprey]

idk how they coded the NAND gate to be so broken (idk if thats the NAND gate, never used it)

[rugged wigeon]

thats exclusive or

thing is it compares using binary

[spring osprey]

ah

[rugged wigeon]

while the or gate use decimal apparently

[spring osprey]

oh i see

is there a reason they used binary? seems a bit broken lol

[rugged wigeon]

i mean it works up to 32 bit

so like 10 digit and a bit more

[spring osprey]

fair enough, also what are u using it for? that big calculator?

[rugged wigeon]

yeah for the substractor

adder carry on is easy

substractor i do (100000000000000+A)-B if B>A and A-B if A>B (also if B>A i carry a one)

[spring osprey]

oh god lol

yeah makes sense

wdym by carry a one?

[rugged wigeon]

to the next calc

[spring osprey]

for the - symbol?

[spring osprey]

ah nvm

[rugged wigeon]

well a (-1) ig

makes more sense

[spring osprey]

what are your plans for this calculator btw

[rugged wigeon]

ALU

for the computer

decimal computer

[spring osprey]

ah i see

i thought it was just to humble cadbury

[rugged wigeon]

also that

i mean it is tileable

so theoretical infinite digit

[spring osprey]

oh wow

[rugged wigeon]

multiplier is a bit less tileable but still kinda

depends wich way i do it

[rugged wigeon]

45 digit substractor

seems like it works

16 digit wire

@wicked kernel

17 digit

spent 10 min wondering how to detect when it equals 0 just to realise and gates exist

added 0 detection to the substractor (yipee)

[jovial brook]

and gates
not gates
greater than gates
nand gates

banana gates

[rugged wigeon]

@supple sapphire

@spring osprey

[spring osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

Thats sick

Almost instant too

[rugged wigeon]

just a few ticks yeah

the logic is pretty much a TON of if statement

[spring osprey]

lmao

[rugged wigeon]

so much more weird cases

[spring osprey]

I just had a great idea on what to try making next lol

[rugged wigeon]

i got stuck for a while because there was like 3 different case with one solution that worked for both but would break the third etc etc

logic aneurysm triangle

[rugged wigeon]

hm?

[spring osprey]

I dunno if it's even possible, but what about a sans fight?

[rugged wigeon]

oh with logic

yeah def possible

not that complicated actually

lot of dedicated circuits

[spring osprey]

Yeah, would be kinda bad though

[rugged wigeon]

you could make it 1 : 1

[spring osprey]

You would need a lot of billboards to make it look smooth

[rugged wigeon]

problem is detecting diagonal hitboxes

like a bone that comes at a weird angle

[spring osprey]

And angled attacks would be painful

[rugged wigeon]

you'd have to have preset trajectory

or calculate them

pretty much a bunch of big line drawers

[spring osprey]

Yeah

[rugged wigeon]

well line drawers arent tiled but you get the point

[spring osprey]

Also i never finished snake lmao idk why im trying to get another project planned out

[rugged wigeon]

snake is just painful

99% spam

oh also have you seen this?

17 digit wire

[spring osprey]

Hm?

Huh? how

[rugged wigeon]

it has very weird behavior tho lol

[spring osprey]

O h

[spring osprey]

Wdym

[spring osprey]

The overflow thing?

[rugged wigeon]

i add 1 it adds 2

the only way you can actually use the number afterward is

[spring osprey]

Wtf

[rugged wigeon]

ez 19 digit addition

[spring osprey]

Oh wow

Is that the limit though? Does it just go to 9999999999.. if it goes over 19 digits?

[rugged wigeon]

if you went past 19 digit the first output would overflow

the other one would work tho

[spring osprey]

Ah i see

Weird mechanic lol

[rugged wigeon]

since you can only input 15 digit numbers going over 19 digit is very hard anyway

you already need 22 maxed wire to go to 17 digit

so you'd need 2222 to reach 19

[spring osprey]

Damn

[rugged wigeon]

adding up 2 maxed wires and not overflowing is sweet tho

can be implemented in simple calculators very easily

[olive lodge]

By chance does anyone know how to cycle between images on a billboard?

[spring osprey]

oh boi you would be surprised @rugged wigeon

[olive lodge]

I require information on the sacred arts of ligic

[spring osprey]

i can try to get on the game rn and send a picture, but it's simple honestly

[olive lodge]

Ok

[spring osprey]

timer into an incrementer, incrementer into a greater than gate (this will determine how many frames on the animation to loop back) and the greater than gate into the reset of the incrementer

that logic will be the basic system for the animation frames

then you want to get the output of that incrementer into a bunch of AND gates, each gate will have a number (1,2,3,4,5,6) that will determine what frame it is (first frame of the animation/second frame, etc etc)

you get the output of the AND gate into a relay, the output of the relay needs to be the ID of the image, corresponding to that image's position (is it the first frame of the animation? then get the first ID of the animation)

and the output of all the relays into a single billboard

there is a lot of ways to make this, but this is just the basic concept of animation in oaklands

i can make a quick example in oaklands, but idk if i can join rn, im a bit occupied

[rugged wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-of-text-who-asked-gif-13446607101319546836

[spring osprey]

screw u lol

✍️ 🔥

[olive lodge]

I ain't reading allat

[spring osprey]

pluh

[olive lodge]

Explain it in Terraria terms

[spring osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bone-lee-terraria-mage-last-prism-gif-18258808735766268307

[rugged wigeon]

so you clentaminate the billboard with the correct image by sending in the correct id into the billboard , each id is stored in a number interface , the numbers get sent into relays

[olive lodge]

Ah

[rugged wigeon]

then its just a matter of choosing the correct relay atthe correct time

so you assign a number to each relay using and and gate

[olive lodge]

I am now more educated

[rugged wigeon]

and just make smthing that cycles trough all the numbers using an incrementer

[olive lodge]

So like cycling wires using the grand design

[spring osprey]

i wrote all that for nothing

[rugged wigeon]

yeah you use the grand design to put the correct color wire one at a time

[olive lodge]

Wow this has been so educational

So a complex hallow farm

[rugged wigeon]

there's logic in terraria too mate

[olive lodge]

Ye

But i use it for more mundane stuff

[spring osprey]

make a 3d renderer in terraria

[rugged wigeon]

terraria might be more optimized than oakland tbh 💀

[spring osprey]

i wont doubt it

[rugged wigeon]

i mean if oakland ran 100% on the client it might get close

and was 2d

[olive lodge]

Fr

Terraria has better performance

[rugged wigeon]

it runs on binary tho

very slow

[olive lodge]

A

[rugged wigeon]

Oakland's logic runs on decimal

[olive lodge]

Mango apricot same thing tbh

[rugged wigeon]

both good

mango are way too expensive tho

[olive lodge]

Nectarine

[rugged wigeon]

meh

clementine are better

[olive lodge]

Blood orange

[rugged wigeon]

ew

pinneaple grape and mango

[olive lodge]

Screw it

[rugged wigeon]

top 3 best fruits

[olive lodge]

Ambrosia

[rugged wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/exodia-yu-gi-oh-anime-summon-gif-17959838

[rugged wigeon]

making a square root calculator

gonna look very satisfying

rounded to 2 decimal

for now

[rugged wigeon]

i can just round it further by adding some zeros everywhere

square root calculator

[spring osprey]

whoa sick

i like how it looks like it actually calculates it lol

[rugged wigeon]

because it does lol

it's using a formula

Newton-Raphson

[spring osprey]

oh is it not using the calculator?

[rugged wigeon]

its doing xn+1=1/2(xn+S/xn)

looping

[spring osprey]

ah hell nah wtf

[spring osprey]

holy

m a t h

[rugged wigeon]

not as complicated as it might look

theres only 2 variable and one of them is a constant

[spring osprey]

it's harder to understand from just a picture lol

[rugged wigeon]

yeah

[spring osprey]

but i think i understand it

[rugged wigeon]

also the stopping function does it by itself because of rounding

so i dont even have to implement that

[spring osprey]

oh noice

[rugged wigeon]

if i multiply some stuff by 100 it should by itself just give me the proper rounding

i just need to fix a small case

oh nvm

im dumb

i just mixed 1/3 and square root of 10

tought it was 3.3333... but it is actually around 3.16

[spring osprey]

oh lmao

[rugged wigeon]

made it faster and removed the need for a clock

the calculating just adds the delay itself so i can loop it back directly

[spring osprey]

oh damn

i cant get over how cool it looks with the digits changing real time lol

[rugged wigeon]

now i pretty much have every operation

everything a calculator can do + square root

[spring osprey]

also, did u see the new quests thingy

"place and wire 10 components" will be hard to do

[rugged wigeon]

oh god how am i gonna do this

[spring osprey]

wtf

tf u mean incorrect

[rugged wigeon]

where is that?

[rugged wigeon]

the stage thingy?

[spring osprey]

yeah

they sent a link for a canva

the vote is in that canva

https://www.canva.com/design/DAGirs2J51w/cau_jsebmGaeJHab_15Rbg/edit

see if that works

[rugged wigeon]

wouldve expected the "no" to be wrong answer 💀

[spring osprey]

lmao

man

school tomorrow

i want to finish the plugin today but i dont think i can

[rugged wigeon]

oh gooly gosh

i found something

scary

wires actually store 30 digit

the 2 decimals are actually just visual

if you multiply by a power of 10

[rugged wigeon]

whats left?

[spring osprey]

panorama testing + tps thingy

[spring osprey]

wait what

[rugged wigeon]

full 15 digit are decimals then after the decimal point there is an extra 32 bit

[spring osprey]

a bit weird though, is it not?

[rugged wigeon]

i won't question it lol

[spring osprey]

lol

[rugged wigeon]

all i know is it let me do an extra like 8 digit after decimal point easily so oh well

[rugged wigeon]

i'm actually more precise than the Windows calculator by 1 digit 😲

[spring osprey]

oh wow

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

[rugged wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

can't really display it but oh well

[spring osprey]

sadge

[rugged wigeon]

oh nvm i found a way

[spring osprey]

k ima lock in and try to finish the plugin

[rugged wigeon]

ight

[spring osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-locked-in-lock-tf-in-cat-cat-meme-gif-13335816645637017379

[rugged wigeon]

bit overflow error after more than 15 digit but since it's the square root of 15 digit on a positive number it can't go above 8 digit

so i have guaranteed 7 digit after decimal

[spring osprey]

slider done

[rugged wigeon]

yipee

[spring osprey]

holy moly making sliders in a plugin is a pain

[rugged wigeon]

for the presets you should put them on the slider

like when you move its slightly harder to go over the presets

ya know?

[spring osprey]

oh i see

idk how to make that though, ima try

i might just make a text, and if u go over a used TPS, it says like "Oaklands TPS" or something

[rugged wigeon]

yah

[rugged wigeon]

can you make it a bit less sensitive?

seems a bit hard to get a specific one

[spring osprey]

that would mean making the slider bigger or changing the max value

or u can make the testing window bigger

since plugin windows can change sizes lol

[rugged wigeon]

15 digit input

[spring osprey]

the logic:

https://tenor.com/view/a-person-who-thinks-all-the-time-albert-einstein-a-person-who-thinks-has-nothing-to-think-about-except-thoughts-gif-571443897782833709

[rugged wigeon]

this is all the extra logic

[spring osprey]

oh lol

[spring osprey]

oh btw u can input it directly into the textbox if u need anything specific

[rugged wigeon]

oh great

[spring osprey]

lol idk why but i thought of something funny

grab some random gameplay of doom and make an animation of it in oaklands

"Doom in oaklands"

no one need to know you cant actually play it lol

[spring osprey]

i might be done with the animation testing

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[ancient meadow]

Build its button, diplay and case kree would be a things 🙂

[rugged wigeon]

uh ?

[ancient meadow]

Literally, like sematic to cover it?

The calculator circut above cobine it as one

[rugged wigeon]

oh

this is only part of a calculator

it will be used for a pc

[ancient meadow]

Then it can be public use too

Aahh i see

[rugged wigeon]

25.03 usin the pre rounded numbers

so very precise

works from 0° to 90 °

then its switcharoo

[rugged wigeon]

rounded

[rugged wigeon]

shape drawer that uses relative position so it can draw stuff anywhere and any angle and any size

@spring osprey check this out

[spring osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

I have no words....

[rugged wigeon]

i have one for you

LINES

cause now that ive got the points

i just need to link them

[spring osprey]

Cant wait for DOOM

[rugged wigeon]

i meannn

technicalllyyyyyy

could run doom

[spring osprey]

Manually do each doom frame

Lmao

[rugged wigeon]

[spring osprey]

I mean, how bad can it be..... right?

The worst part might be doing the display

[rugged wigeon]

the cos and sin part is the most complicated

just a big formula where i fill in the variables

there's a few approximation like a pi/180 to turn angles into the correct form

but the display is so unbelievably small compared to how precise 14 digit after decimal point is that it causes no problem

i mean the cos and sin are approximation by themselves

for rounding i do if x[with decimal]<x[without decimal]+0.5 i just remove the decimal and if its bigger i remove the decimal and add 1

[spring osprey]

damn

[spring osprey]

lol, just make every digit of pi inside of oaklands

[rugged wigeon]

pi is annoying to calculate lol

[spring osprey]

isnt it just 22/7?

[rugged wigeon]

that's an approximation

a very innacurate one that is

[spring osprey]

oh damn

[rugged wigeon]

the calculation is you take a circle and do Circumference/diameter but then you need to know what the circumference is

there's iterative way of doing that by subdividing lines

[spring osprey]

yeah

[rugged wigeon]

but its pretty tricky

[spring osprey]

i dont think you really need that many digits of pi though

leds/billboards cant really get thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat precise

[rugged wigeon]

for reference the way i calculate cos and sin is an infinite function that get more precise the more you use from the function and it reaches the level of accuracy an actual computer has after only 5 steps

[spring osprey]

yeah

cant you do the same with pi? except you stop after 10 steps or so

[rugged wigeon]

iirc correctly pi is an iterative function

like how i did my square root thingy

[spring osprey]

ah

[rugged wigeon]

doubled it so i can make it faster

(more robust)

[rapid halo]

i bro making a pc

[steep shard]

this post is from my nightmares

[rugged wigeon]

yuh

this is dedicated circuit for complex formula

i could run it on the pc but since its for graphics i want it to be fast

[rapid halo]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-2786175780991966991

[rugged wigeon]

oh it does work

the issue is very dumb

was just too lazy to fix the issue when reaching zeros cause i tought it wouldnt be a problem 💀

44 5

x0+4 and y

[spring osprey]

sick

[spring osprey]

also, damn that looks really cool

i like how the logic looks in oaklands compared to lt2

in lt2 it's just a grey block

[rugged wigeon]

will look betetr as this is only using a distance of 8 and 16 vertices on a screen that wasnt made to render this sort of shape

also the reaosn it cuts off on the left is because i still need to fix some issue when it reaches 0's

fixed it on the right

[spring osprey]

ohh i see

i thought it was just a starter point kinda of thing

[rugged wigeon]

nah it actually start on the right side

and goes counter clockwise

[jovial brook]

for a second i thought this was for the competition lol

[rugged wigeon]

doesnt fit criteria

[jovial brook]

kinda does

if it was fully finished

[rugged wigeon]

i mean THEORETICALLY

since it can run anything

it could run something that fits the criteria

but might as well just make a dedicated circuit

[jovial brook]

yea

[rugged wigeon]

goal is to continue making good wiring so i can cover the whole plot

making it look like a motherboard lol

calculating cos and sin one time per funtion makes some cool circuit lol

[jovial brook]

lol

[spring osprey]

holy moly

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

you need some cleaning service in that plot fr fr

[spring osprey]

also..... please dont tell me thats the 🐟

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scream-cat-screaming-screaming-cat-screaming-cat-meme-cat-holding-head-gif-18315479387537093127

[rugged wigeon]

le poisson

[spring osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scream-cat-screaming-screaming-cat-screaming-cat-meme-cat-holding-head-gif-18315479387537093127

[rugged wigeon]

i need to finish my display and then ill make a 3d render

gonna be big boy logic

like if i go all in and make one calc per point

i can make it ~5 fps for corners

and longer if i make the actual lines

i have alot of time this week

so LOCK IN

gonna be a similar circuit to this but like x12

(again yes i could do that with a list of instruction but it would be painfully slow)

if i say dumb stuff about 3 rendering don't worry i don't know anything about it but should be able to learn how it works in a few hours

if i do dumb stuff feel free to correct me and tell me how i could do it better

[jovial brook]

idk anything about pcs lol

[rugged wigeon]

it's more math than pc

the way ill do it is pure brute force dedicated circuit

a pc would do it the same way but with instructions

[jovial brook]

yea

[rugged wigeon]

its jsut such an important program that im making it dedicated so i can then use it as an instruction

[rugged wigeon]

[ancient meadow]

💀

[mint musk]

[rugged wigeon]

11 000 wire 4 000 gates

and 2/3 brain aneurysm

ill need about 8 of those

maybe more

for the 3d renderer

ill do 1 shape at a time for now

well due to how it will work i only need to worry about number of corners

so maybe 16 just to be sure

8 is already slow

yeah we'ill see

can always add more later

[mint musk]

[rugged wigeon]

perspective is only one more calculation

ez pz

[mint musk]

could you make a 3d game

[rugged wigeon]

yeah

pretty darn slow but yeah

[mint musk]

pretty cool

[rugged wigeon]

for reference a 10x10x10 cube takes minimum 2 seconds to render

still like 50x faster than a binary computer would 💀

[rugged wigeon]

THE TICKS ARE A LIE EVERYTHING IS A LIE THE UNIVERSE IS COLLAPSING

[mint musk]

is vro ok

[rugged wigeon]

i spent hundred of hours doing something that doesnt exist

[spring osprey]

Huh

[rugged wigeon]

ticks

[spring osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scream-cat-screaming-screaming-cat-screaming-cat-meme-cat-holding-head-gif-18315479387537093127

[rugged wigeon]

they don't exist

[spring osprey]

Wtf do u mean they dont exist

[rugged wigeon]

the logic isnt tick based

[spring osprey]

H u h

[rugged wigeon]

most thing just happen to be the same speed

[spring osprey]

whoa sick

[rugged wigeon]

8 sides looks like a circle already lol

6 side looks like this for some reason

atleast its regular 💀*

[spring osprey]

wtf lol

sheet of paper looking aah

[rugged wigeon]

triangle

[spring osprey]

Dorito with an ant

[rugged wigeon]

in theory this is 5 sides

[rugged wigeon]

thats residual dw

[spring osprey]

Ah

[rugged wigeon]

oh i think i'm just dumb

[rugged wigeon]

found why this happens

this is what 6 side should look like

this is what 6 side looks like if you invert some angles in the 90 degress quadrant

[rugged wigeon]

identical to this

so its just because when i was doing my testing i tried with 4 and 8 side so the X and Y were the same for bothpoints but inverted

[spring osprey]

Oh

[spring osprey]

Thats makes a bit more sense now lol

[spring osprey]

Meanwhile im doing a 2d game lel

[rugged wigeon]

hm?

snek?

[spring osprey]

Im trying to make a 2d game using UI in studio

[rugged wigeon]

oh ok

we need to remember the comp lol

[spring osprey]

Oh yeah the comp i forgor

[rugged wigeon]

ok we are getting somewhere

atleast those corners are correct lol

[spring osprey]

nice new name lmao

[rugged wigeon]

getting closer

[rugged wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

[rugged wigeon]

this is raytracing

that's it 💀

[spring osprey]

wow

[rugged wigeon]

double computer

[rugged wigeon]

https://www.roblox.com/share?code=94dd185a73569a4ca8786949a33d5df6&type=Server

private server

[rugged wigeon]

raycasting

(5*5)/(5+10) = 1.66666...

and then 10 - 1.6666 = 8.34

wich is the X coordinate of the intersection

[sudden jackal]

im here to check out epic math

[prisma pine]

Same

[rugged wigeon]

have you been satisfied with the epicness of the math

[sudden jackal]

yes, I have been satisfied with the epicness of the math

[rugged wigeon]

i hope you get satisfied with the epicness of the 3d rendering later on

even more epic math

[prisma pine]

Make a roc.

[rugged wigeon]

a what

[prisma pine]

🪨

[rugged wigeon]

i can make an abstract 3d shape ig lol

[prisma pine]

Yay :D

[rugged wigeon]

or the word rock that spins 🗣️

[prisma pine]

That works too

[rugged wigeon]

yeah ok so this was pure luck lol

this formula assumes the camera has a X value of 0

so what ill do is calculate relative position instead

[rugged wigeon]

Xproj=(f*Xr)/(f+Zr)+Cx

[rugged wigeon]

with relative position

now i either take the smart route and make 3 more

or take the brute force one

and make 31 more

[spring osprey]

Huh

[spring osprey]

Oh god

Wait, AT 5AM???? DO YOU EVEN SLEEP??????

[jovial brook]

Bird or oaklands logo

[jovial brook]

9 am for me

[spring osprey]

It might be like 10AM for him, but still damn

[jovial brook]

depends on if he has school

[rugged wigeon]

oakland logo with 16 vertices

[spring osprey]

Holy

Damn

[rugged wigeon]

90 Pixel per sec renderer

0.75 fps cube

need 3 matrices or maybe 2 idk

[spring osprey]

oh damn

[rugged wigeon]

every single points is calculated at once tho so its technically like 20 fps

just the rendering taking a while

[spring osprey]

oh i see

i want to see it working later lol

[rugged wigeon]

yeah i'm kinda doing things backward so rn i have the rendering part almost done

still have to do the point moving part

but technically i should eb able to manually input any shape soon

[spring osprey]

damn thats cool

doom when

[rugged wigeon]

ill just make a spinning doom logo 💀

[spring osprey]

lmao, close enough

[rugged wigeon]

also due to how the 3d to 2d thingy works

i can easily make it use another style of projection

cause like if i remove the Z it simply removes all perspective

as point cross the line directly

[spring osprey]

Oh i see

[mint musk]

🔥

[jovial brook]

where do you get so many

oh wait nvm

[rugged wigeon]

dupe 🤑

[jovial brook]

im reporting you to the police

@police

[rugged wigeon]

@FBI

[olive lodge]

@rugged wigeon how do I make animated waterfalls?

[spring osprey]

I mean, you can try using billboards

Using animations etc

[rugged wigeon]

https://www.roblox.com/share?code=94dd185a73569a4ca8786949a33d5df6&type=Server

[jovial brook]

ooo

free private

thanks

[rugged wigeon]

thats not the goal lol

[jovial brook]

yes it is

[olive lodge]

I'm sick of billboards

[spring osprey]

Whoa

[rugged wigeon]

the distance from the line to the bottom point is the focal length

pretty much the zoom

[rugged wigeon]

touching grass

perspective proj done (i think)

[olive lodge]

Also krreee

[rugged wigeon]

what

[olive lodge]

Do you know how to make an animated waterfall with lcds?

[rugged wigeon]

use lcds

[olive lodge]

How

[rugged wigeon]

by placing them

[olive lodge]

I'm trying to animate it

[olive lodge]

I'm trying to animate the waterfall with lcds

[rugged wigeon]

put random shades of blue in it

[olive lodge]

I'm using sapphire

Please just take this seriously

I'm begging you

[spring osprey]

i mean, you can do a scroller

infinite looping scroller

[rugged wigeon]

added 0 detection cause for some reason everything needs it

[rugged wigeon]

re wired a whole entire side to move it by 0.625

[olive lodge]

KRREEE

I BEG OF YOU

TEACH ME HOW TO ANIMATE WATERFALLS WITH LCDS AN MY LIFE IS YOURS

[rugged wigeon]

generate a number between 1 and 10 randomly and add it at a set interval onto leds that are already barely blue

[mint musk]

[spring osprey]

Damn

[spring osprey]

How did u get this many line drawers???

[rugged wigeon]

dupe

[jovial brook]

grr

line drawers = cheating

[spring osprey]

[jovial brook]

i cant make this without line drawers can i?

or is it way harder

[spring osprey]

Just a lot more logic i guess

[jovial brook]

lol

those three outputs are x y and z?

or just x y and something else?

or none

[rugged wigeon]

you can make a line drawer without the gate that is legit the same speed (might even be faster)

[rugged wigeon]

X Y and length of the line

[jovial brook]

ohh yea

[jovial brook]

terrible gate then

i need the other one

the array

[rugged wigeon]

the logic for a whole line drawer is very complicated

like 20 gates all wired in a goofy way

even more if you do all quadrants

[jovial brook]

Grr

Doesn’t that mean we need a logic update 2 this year

[rugged wigeon]

also by that logic the blocker is useless since its a relay with a not gate

[rugged wigeon]

yeah but they prob won't

because they say not enough people care about it (even tho way more people would if they did)

[jovial brook]

Yea

I need it

It’s not like we can become millionaires from a line drawer

All it does is give some more fun

[rugged wigeon]

it can also be used for way more than drawing line

very ez absolute difference calculator

[jovial brook]

Also for no reason I think you should ask in the motion contest if unreleased items are allowed

[rugged wigeon]

i won't use it for my thingy

the3d renderer aint for the comp

[jovial brook]

Yea ik

[rugged wigeon]

the only other unreleased gate would be the memory array but they removed it fully from the game

[jovial brook]

But it’s still interesting to know

wait what

Noooo

Why

Grr

They got to add a thing where certain items can’t leave your plot

[rugged wigeon]

why

just anchor them

[jovial brook]

I meant structures

So that they can make sure no one gives away stuff like that

[rugged wigeon]

it's ez to track

[jovial brook]

I guess yea

[spring osprey]

@rugged wigeon i dare you to render this:

[rugged wigeon]

make a 16 vertices version of it

and i will

[spring osprey]

16 vertices? I have no clue how to make a skull with 16 lol

[rugged wigeon]

you can make a 2d one

and then i make it spin

[spring osprey]

Sure lol

[rugged wigeon]

coordinate range is 1 1 to 25 20

[spring osprey]

length/height?

[rugged wigeon]

25 long 20 high

[spring osprey]

kk

[rugged wigeon]

geogebra

[rugged wigeon]

this is the website i use

[spring osprey]

ip grabber (real)

[jovial brook]

No links allowed

/e ban

[rugged wigeon]

breuh

[spring osprey]

what link

[jovial brook]

Idk

Was jk though

I don’t think it’s a rule

[spring osprey]

must have been the wind

[spring osprey]

i think it is, no?

[rugged wigeon]

it can be more than 16 but it will be increidbly slow

so yeah 16 for now 💀

if you do 8 i can also double it so its like a a thick 2d thingy you know

Tétraèdre – 4 sommets

Cube (Hexaèdre) – 8 sommets

Octaèdre – 6 sommets

Icosaèdre – 12 sommets

Cuboctaèdre – 12 sommets

Pyramide a base triangulaire – 4 sommets

Pyramide a base carrée – 5 sommets

Prisme triangulaire – 6 sommets

Prisme rectangulaire – 8 sommets

Prisme pentagonal – 10 sommets

Prisme hexagonal – 12 sommets

Antiprisme triangulaire – 6 sommets

Antiprisme carré – 8 sommets

Antiprisme pentagonal – 10 sommets

Antiprisme hexagonal – 12 sommets

Bipyramide triangulaire – 5 sommets

Bipyramide carrée – 6 sommets

Bipyramide pentagonale – 7 sommets

bunch of basic shapes that would work

cuboctaedre is cool

[spring osprey]

they massacrated my boy

LMAO

[rugged wigeon]

btw its 16 point but infinite lines

[spring osprey]

wdym

16 at a time?

[rugged wigeon]

like 16 vertices max (for now)

but the number of line can be anything

[spring osprey]

oh i see

that still doesnt help much lol

[rugged wigeon]

Cubohémioctaèdreare cool too

[spring osprey]

no, just no

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-2786175780991966991

[rugged wigeon]

its only 12 💀

[spring osprey]

sure.............

[rugged wigeon]

heres another cuboctaedre

[spring osprey]

......

good, now make doom-

jk lol

[rugged wigeon]

dooms rendering is a bit different

ill prob make it on another display

but thats for another day

[spring osprey]

lol

[rugged wigeon]

if they make a general logic comp i def would

[jovial brook]

English only

Get out

My chat now

[rugged wigeon]

it's math

lot of math isnt in english

[jovial brook]

Uhh no actually

Rectangulaire is rectangular

French right?

[rugged wigeon]

rectangular * 😄

[jovial brook]

Yea

I guess math doesn’t have to be English since not many people gonna understand anyway

Easy to understand what some of the shapes are but what’s a carree

[rugged wigeon]

i mean the name of the shape is pretty much just latin

[jovial brook]

Yea I get it now

Carree is a square right

[rugged wigeon]

carré yeah

[spring osprey]

retangular in portuguese

it really doesnt change much tbh

[jovial brook]

Yea

Which is cool

[spring osprey]

@rugged wigeon tell us a word in french and we have to guess what it means

[rugged wigeon]

Quincaillerie

[spring osprey]

uhh is it a number? lol

[rugged wigeon]

nop

[spring osprey]

what the hell

[rugged wigeon]

🗿

[spring osprey]

sounds like millionaire, does it have anything to do with that? lol

[rugged wigeon]

it's the name of a place

[spring osprey]

;-;

that feels like cheating lol

[rugged wigeon]

no like

"cinema" or "restaurant"

[spring osprey]

oh i see

i still have absolutely no clue

lmao

[rugged wigeon]

idk how you could possibly guess any word lol

[spring osprey]

i have no idea at all

doesnt sound or looks like any places lol

[rugged wigeon]

try to guess the gender of a wall

[spring osprey]

wtf? uh

concrete/bricks

[rugged wigeon]

every word has a gender

[spring osprey]

even a wall? lol

[rugged wigeon]

yeah it's un [wall] but une [table]

[spring osprey]

ah i see lol

i use my "call for help"

@jovial brook help lmao

[jovial brook]

Un is male

Une is female

[rugged wigeon]

Un le mon ton is male and Une la ma ta is female

[jovial brook]

Yea

[rugged wigeon]

[jovial brook]

So quincaillerie has nothing to do with numbers?

[rugged wigeon]

nop

[spring osprey]

it's a place apparently

[spring osprey]

.

no idea what place though lol

ima just say a bunch of different names and see if i get any of them right lol

[jovial brook]

Yea

But I was thinking of phone booth

[spring osprey]

@rugged wigeon
Barbershop?
Thrift shop?
Gas station?
Observatory?

[rugged wigeon]

it's a kind of shop

[spring osprey]

oh that too could work

[spring osprey]

uhhhh idk, logic shop? like in oaklands? lol

[rugged wigeon]

lol

[jovial brook]

is it?

i like browser discord

i can translate anything if i wanted to

[rugged wigeon]

no it's an hardware store

[jovial brook]

hmm

phone store?

[spring osprey]

logic store is close enough lmao

[rugged wigeon]

yeah fair

[jovial brook]

ohh nvm

[spring osprey]

my turn, in portuguese @rugged wigeon