#Krreeee's logic shenanigans
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π€
πΈ πΈ its a pc
text based yeah
Cool still
what this gonna be
windows terminal
what does that do
executes command
ohh
painful
its like 2 times as big as pacman technically
im guessing your going to make sure you dont make a wire wall
bleh
it has 500 cell pacman has 280 but pacman has 12 slices andthis only 4
also the wiring is WAY tighter so way faster to do
I mean...
What would you qualify as a wire wall
Cause I might have made 5 of the biggest one I've ever done
Twice as big as pacman
[all for a slightly cooler text as I could have just made 1 line and shifted it π]
anything that i cant see through
Bro, I understand someone can bulid pc in Minecraft, but HOW DID YOU DONE THAT IN OAKLANDS?!
i think its easier in oaklands
cause you need less things
but all we missing is copy and paste
Component wise easier in oakland but world edit and creative mod make it 1000x faster to do in Minecraft
also the reason it looks good is because of hardwiring lol
an actual pc would be 10000x slower and not display any text
the time it takes to code a function is prob the same as hardwiring it and hardwire looks fancy and are very fast so id rather do that
Dang
this is what text looks like encoded
rewired pacman's display so i dont look like i have schizophrenia when i tell people it's actually moving on the screen
What does a computer do that identifies it as a computer
Bc it takes long but itβs not really complicated with all the logic stuff
look up "turing complete" on google
when doing anything with logic you have 2 option
the first one is an actualk computer that could do everything but really slowly (like 1 frame/5sec) and with crappy graphic
the advantage of that is that it can do anything
or the second option aka the one i do
is doing dedicated system
for everything
this lets you make 1to 1 recreation of irl stuff like pacman etc
but the thing is for each thing you want to do with it you need to build a new system
to be honest 95% off all the logic on my base is simply to display what i calculated with the other systems
display are a nightmare
decoders too
lot of spamming wall of gates
Due to how the game logic work binary computer are rarely a good option
Computing π
Because bread taste better than key
What it mean ?
I choose freedom π₯
exactlyyyyyyyy
vro that guy on the bottom has a point
I swear I made the terminal to procrastinate pacman and ended up making some pacman to procrastinate the terminal π
The good thing with the terminal is once I'm done with that annoying display I'll be able to use it for a ton of logic project
@sterile temple is this mean page up/down?
It means I can make all the text go up infinitely
This way I can just do command after command without running out of space
I'm also making a buffer
If I did scroll back up I would need to save all the text that goes off the screen at the top and bottom
lmao relatable, im trying to make snake but im just switching between each one of them
but in the end it really doesnt matter since both of them take so long to wire everything
yeah its a pain especiallu when the "quick project" turns into a nightmare
the terminal went from ~426 gates to 4000+
it should pay off in the end (pretty much turned into an actual computer by accident lol)
They gotta and copy and paste for structures
if they do with wire included i could do project like pacman in under an hour
probably will
I mean now that we have the wire moving
We should see it in a Qol update
anything that comes from boxes can only be replicated one by one rn so i think the way ot works just doesnt allow for multiple
they'd have to redo a bunch of code
why do you need and gates that much?
relays id understand
ah ok
But I do think we should stop asking for invisible wires
uh?
I think that might be laggy
no?
it would be less lag actually
also its not invisible wire
Imagine you couldnβt see all the red wires
its non rendered wires
its client side
My pc probably would explode
its rendering
and it would just not render it
its already doing that like 60 times a second
why don't we have quantum computer yet
Wdym
rethorical
lol
omg i wish, i also wish it was possible to move gates without the wires breaking, so we can just wire everything up first and then compact everything (without everything breaking)
i wish there was a "Wiring and Logic update"
You have unlocked the Active Goober activity role!
huh? lol
you can but you have to select both gates idk if its possible for them to do it when moving only one
i know they arleady had to rewrite a bunch of stuff to make that happen
yeah ik but it's still very limited
yeah especially with criss crossed wires
oh damn, i hate spaghetti code
i mean, idk what goes thru the code for the wires to be moved
if the gates are cloned, deleted and placed elsewhere, then it makes sense the wires are broken
basically when moving multiple stuff at once each thing would be placed after the other so with wires they would just not have anything to connect to and be cut off
(for the moving process)
i mean, what they could do is break into steps, first move every structure, then replace the wires
but i might be very wrong, since idk any of the code
i could maybe try making a similar code from zero, but it would be difficult to implement into the game since it's going to be very different from the code in the game, buuuuuuuut π
yeah i doubt that would work lol
oh btw i actually made TWO accidental computer
the display itself is pretty much a computer by itself π
huh.................. TWO????????????????
damn lol
yeah for the display i send instruction in and it moves data around and do stuff to it so id consider it as a computer
like it pulls out piece of data do stuff with it and put it back wherever
all that cause i'm lazy
i could use that system for the scroll down function but i do it as its own to make it faster
yeah basically a computer
the only thing stopping me from making wiring rn is school and "imagination block" lmao
i just cant picture how i would do the other functions in snake
i guess i will just do bad apple for a while
The best logic comes in the shower 
lmao i only shower quickly before school, almost no time to relax and think
and early in the morning on the weekends (before people say i dont shower on weekends)
i remember when i was a kid i just locked-in randomly and started planning stuff for lt2 lol
i drew shapes and set it as gates, lines as wires etc
only thing is that in lt2 you have to buy wires 
oh yeah i never did much logic in lt2 wires were pain
almost every project was like 500k+ and some even cost 30m+
money isnt really an issue on lt2 but still annoying
i dont think you could even have x25 boxes
when i read the sign saying that wires are free in oaklands i almost gasped lmao
nope, one by one and you had to pay the boat for it
and guess what, if the games decides it's time to stop they just fling your stuff when coming back from the boat
when i lost 1 full truck filled with logic gates, thats when i gave up lmao
iirc it was only bit based stuff too
only bools (wire turned on/off)
yeah thats boring lol
Here comes the sun doo doo doo doo
i tried making a sign and it just broke, because all the letters activated each other

now show it to a cavemen and try to explain the image lmao 
the good thing with oakland that made me cracked at logic is i started doing it without having a clue about what a logic gate even was
so i had no bad reflex
i see alot of people being stuck on using binary when doing logic
h o w lmao
while you can do far faster / efficient stuff exploiting the actual game mechanics
trying
what was your reaction to finding out what a logic gate was?
headaches probably lol
lol
my past experience were Minecraft
i used a ton of gates without knowing what they were
like when i was 8 years old making rock paper cissors in MC with a ton of and gates
damn
oh yeah also i guess one thing i also would try making later is a rock paper scissors game in oaklands
i think it will be a quick project (trust)
epic strat is having both side use different numbers for each π
very cursed
btw @rugged wigeon i had to change the old system i used, apparently the timing sucked and i couldnt increase the number unless the clock was running really fast
did you try incrementers?
yeah, i tried it and it worked

had to do a little organizing tho, but it used wayyyy less space
i still dont know what plotter means π
this
oh you mean for the display?
the thing where you send coordinate and it put it on the correct slot
yeah
i still didnt make it yet since i have to plan how i would make the snake increase in size
oh ok
and the fruit spawning
i have a very cursed way to do the snake size if you want
and i have no idea how i would make the fruit spawning, thats what im stuck on rn
since i kinda know how to get a empty slot (using NOT gates) but it would cost a lot
but i dont know how to make it a chance of spawning in that slot
oh like spawn smthing making sure its not on the snake?
yeah
you could spam tries
with equal chance on every spot
i mean, that also could work but i would need it to be fast
and in the last moments where the player is almost winning, it would take a while to spawn the fruit, no?
or make a shift register to have a list of pixel filled by the snake
yeah i guess i kinda need that
and for snake lenght you can use fading
my messages are getting moderated lmao
i still need to make the gameover when you touch
the snake
can use the same register as the fruit
yeah that was my thought, so i might need to register everything huh
but my screen is 16x24 am i cooked....?
384 area
most snake grid are like 10x10
why not lmao
trust me thats plenty already lol
i didnt think of the problems it would cause later lol
i just thought "oh this size should be enough for a fun gameplay"
and not "oh god thats a lot of gates i will need to wire"
also Leds or billboard?
leds
kk
384 billboards would be insane
have you tried fading for the snake display?
(maybe not for u but, yk)
fading?
ahah yeah who would be dumb enough to do that am i right (
)
like plotting the lenght of your snake and remove one each frame
that was my plan, but idk how it would work
and it would be limited to 10 length
why?
since the white light from leds go from 0-10, no?
oh but you turn any number greater than 0 into a green (or whatever color you want the snake to be) led tho
with relays
Wire it this way easier to see for me
yeah but i wanted the snake to be white and fruits red
you can double not gate or relay white
having the snake be green might be a cool idea...
you'd just have to change a single interface to chose the color
idk i think i have to figure out how im going to make the plotter
plotter, then "snake length memory", fruit spawning and gameover on overlap/border touch
also brb i have an essay to finish π
snake lenght memory?
kk
this
what am i seeing
Song goes hard
1475 wires
oh the irony
@spring osprey do you know if image have to be seen to be loaded in server memory or if they just have to exist somewhere on my plot?
dude what is that
headache inducing
but in the end you get cool flashing stuff
i would imagine the satisfaction is extreme
have you seen the pacman?
sure have
cant even begin to imagine
the most ive made is a scrolling 14 segment display
that's already alot more than most player lol
how did you display characters on this
each tile is a billboard , each character is an image , i take a number and transform it into the corresponding image id wich i then display on the correct billboard
i see
doesnt sound that bad atm but im sure its a lot worse to get working
still super cool
ah its actually not as complicated as it sounds
its a ton of spamming
and routing stuff wherever
i'm currently working on a buffer a scrolling function and another thing thats a bit complicated to explain
yeah nws
was the spam just a display test? cause im wondering how youll input whatever
i think i saw a keyboard in the corner, but i feel like thatd be a little tedious tto work on
with*
the spam was me inputting a ton of thig after each other to test every letter
there's 2 main input and some other
1 for the letter you want to choose
and 1 for the position you want it to go to
oh word
then theres the buffer input to sortta "confirm" what just happened
and the last input is something that "pulls out" a whole line so i can do stuff to it and then put it back in
this way i can change position of lines / move letters around for the backspace and spacebar
and a ton of other things
the display will let me do alot of thing
the end goal is a windows terminal
im gonna make a ton of commands to do stuff
that would be so cool but so horrible to make
the display is 95% of the time spent tbh
but then i can use it to display whatever logic you could think about
the only """issue""" that i saw was with the characters that would go lower than other, like g, j, y
yeah i need to fix those
how would you even
by remaking them smaller
alot of font have them not go under the line
like here the j is fine
ye
just the p q and y
this was back when it was only 142 character
now its 500
christ
10 lines of 50
yee i dont imagine ill be doing anything insane like that
or maybe ill try but im no expert
trial and error
my last 3 big project are Paint pacman and this and you can tell the imporvment from one to the other
Paint for example has some VERY DUMB mistake
coordinate based too
it looked very smooth
the pathfinding takes into account it's coordinate , the goal coordinate , wall collision and backtrack blocker
oh was that a bot?
oh yeah it was auto pathfinding from bottom left to top right lol
duuude
i can manually control it too
ye what input would you use to control it
a single number
think of it as a grid of numbers
each time you go right it goes up by 1
each time you go up it goes up by 100
nono im talking about like, say you get to the point where YOU are playing. will it be pressing buttons or a joystick
or etc
oh buttons
or levers
they are pretty much the same except button have cooldown
joystick is trash
thats why i never wanted to try a game because theres no real satisfying way of controlling
cause yea buttons have the cooldown
wish there was a way to get direct input
you can put lever into a not gate and have 0 colldown
you could try pressure pads
this has same issue as button
but worse because you can press multiple at once
lever should be fine but if they really arent i can setup a macro so that when i press arrow key it presses the correct spot on my screen where the levers are
has to redo the scroll down to make it 2 tick faster 
they just need to be seen by the player, i dont know exactly what the conditions are but i can test it later
alright
cause i was thinking about just having all the images in poster and merge them into each other
idk how that would work
also poster can only be seen from one side so maybe it will still work if you look at it from the invisible side
i also thought about using that for bad apple, but 1200 would not be cool to buy manually lol (and it would cost more than a million)
yeah fair enough poster can get pricy
honestly, idk i need to test it since it might only load if the image is seen from the front
i only tested with billboards and it worked like that, not sure about posters
its prob really weird cause like how would it behave if it was at 89Β° angle , how would it behave if it was only 1 pixel shown etc etc
also if the player needs to see it are you sure its server side and not client side?
i guess it just tests for the angle the of the part the decal is placed on (in this case the billboard or poster)
i think it might be saved on the client's side
kk so its probably better to have a bunch of image next to the screen
yup
ill try to do smthing so it doesnt z fight too much
ah, how much i enjoy my internet...
337 failed to load textures and images 
oh you can see when the image load in console?
no, when it fails to load
you can see the white images on the right, because my internet sucks
weirdly enough it's only when i join the game, not when im playing it
weird
i tried contacting roblox too, i have no idea why this started to happen all of the sudden
do you know if image loaded on poster are registered in the same place as billboard?
they might not
i think it might be my internet provider or a roblox update, but i really dont know
has it always happened?
nope, they arent registred in the F9 console
nope, i guess it started this month? or last month, i dont really know
havent heard about any big update in the past month or two
and i guess it only happens to me, or else more people would be freaking out about it
does it really affect gameplay?
a lot
textures wont load and it takes ages to join any game, and it stays without any textures
maybe clear cache?
Weird question but would there be any use to do that with my text?
bit weird to explain but i could do the scroll up in 2 steps this being the first one
or just in one by skipping this one
what is it for? loading everything in?
the left one is just every line filled with letters
dont mind the gap
the right one would be the middle step when scrolling the screen down
ohhhh i see
because my display is 50x10 but the gates are in a 25x20 wall
for compactness
so when i was originally making the scrolling function i didnt think of it and wired pairs of 25 to the one right above
i fixed it now but idk if it could have been useful for anything
in the end it does the same thing but like 2 tick slower so 
also what will scrolling be used for? like an actual console where old messages scroll up?
yeah so that i dont need to clear the screen everytime it reaches the bottom
in that case i think it would be a good idea to make it, im not sure how but it would also look cool
i mean i have made it
the question was wether i use the first design
slower but can do that one weird thing
or the new one wich is twice as fast but cannot do the weird 2 step thing
so im just trying to see if there is any use to the weird thing
i mean.... your choice really
i think im the last person who should be answering this since i would just pick the quickest option that doesnt cost that much lol
lol
vertical moving will be this sytem
well down as up would require memory n stuff and be very useless
and left and right is gonna be pull out a line modify it and put it back wherever
MY BLOCKER IS BALD

pretty acurate tbh
it's a " " gate now
the joke was so bad it got his own 4 minutes of silence
lol dw i'm just locked in
what does your gate do? i do know
lol
do i have you added on roblox?
i dont think so
atleast i dont remember adding you that one time we joined the private server
whats ur user?
JP_Pontes
sent , the server you joined me on ran out tho
oh really? oof
accepted it rn
yup
also im in a singleplayer server rn, i thought it would load a bit better (it didnt)
oh yeah dw imma grind wires rn i think the server couldnt handle both our base
yeah it kinda sucks that bases unload when far away, so everytime you get closer again to the middle of the map it loads all of them at once
kinda makes it unplayable for me ngl
oh roblox just died
what??
yup
i just hit something invisible
that's probably a " " tree they are made out of " " gates
no... it's weirder
its a random invisible block???
and it's massive 
still hitting the invisible block
oh....
that's odd
thats bad-
they're the same texture
tbf i think roblox is down rn so that may be a part of the issue
this also happend last week, so idk about that
when lag just gives me x-ray 
"i swear im not hacking"
what should i do with this many meteor cores?
meatballs
or take 1200 pictures and make bad apple-
(im not doing that lmao)
can you sell meteor/infused cores? i might just sell them
to player prob
oof
redid a bunch of wires AGAIN to make it clearer and easier for me to wire
thats alotta relays
4 000+ gates
and 10 000+ wires
wires
everywhere
all the time
i swear it's gonna be worth it
i'm going crazy
What the .. π€―
@rugged wigeon do you mind sharing where you got all the images for the letters?
can i dm you the link?
ye go for it
btw @rugged wigeon after some testing, the image has to be facing the player's screen, it cant be blocked by another part in front of it (apparently? idk i need to test some more)
does transparent part count as blocked?
let me test rq
apparently not
can you try having multiple poster in the same spot?
ima have to buy some brb
oh doesnt have to be poster can be anything
hopefully
every time i test it's something different wtf
π
apparently even after seeing the poster the image flashes black a little bit
(while seeing from the transparent part)
and now it just doesnt pre-load at all wtf
have you tried comparing billboards and poster on that issue?
im testing with posters-billboards
and not billboards with billboards
also do you have any info on the amount of time it stayss in memory?
no clue
apparently it does pre-load with billboards, and not with posters

so poster are useless?
apparently yes
can you try holding the id in memory cell to see if it does anything?
they might use a different item for the image display, so the loading might not be the same
one might be using a SurfaceGui and one a decal
you mean without connection to a billboard?
yeah
or a billboard blocked by a solid block
/backward
ah i see
btw it didnt work
i'm also curious to know if you have to display -> wait for it to show -> stop displaying for it to be saved in memory or if you can jsut -> display and not display without waiting for it to show
hmmm ima try to use a zero tick to display it to test it
btw testing it backwards didnt work
0 tick are 8 ticks you should try 0 tick gen
kk
use this setup for actual 0 tick
covering it with a single solid block worked
not sure if this is because the pulse is too short
the first time you pressed it, it was black so it didnt load but the next time you pressed it, it flashed the image
look after tho
so it does pre-load with a 0 tick
kk
here it is using a 0 tick gate (aka 8 ticks)
yup it did pre-load with 0 tick
it seems like even tough the first one didnt show up the next attempt were succesful
wich means you dont have to wait for it to show up to have it saved
you just need to "attempt"
yeah, first attempt it didnt load in time, the 2nd time the image was pre-loaded
actually you gave me an idea to pre-load my bad apple b4 playing it lol
idk if the game will like 1200 frames being loaded quickly though 
play trough it at mach 20?
yup
is the quickest clock using 3 tethers?
or was it 4 the limit?
what i can actually do is go thru the whole animation 2 frames at once, since one will be loaded by the big screen and one by the tiny pre-load screen
oh god, how fast does it go?
i can run trough it at mach 20 on a small screen in the corner each time the screen is doing smthing else
like scrolling etc
this way i dont waste any time 
i can make it keep track of where it stopped and loop
server handles it well
ima test it rq lol
i mean we pretty much have the same exact system rn lol
oh nvm you have the preload
idk how that works
oh if you dont wanna buy 1 billboard / frame you can do it 10 by 10
maybe it's too fast and the server is lagging a lot too, the pre-load billboard still flashes black a lot
i mean, it didnt really work that well
you should try having some image on another billboard constantly on to make sure thats the reason
with your 1500 image you cant really do that for all frame but if it works i would only need like 150k$ worth of billboard
i mean, preloading every image with individual billboards will be costly
also congrats i think you did a big part since last time i saw it
and i dont think i can use the same system for pre-loading everything
i really didnt lol, im kinda slacking on the project bc of school
im still on frame 150
with the grid design i showed you for the image storage you would need the square root of the amount of image to make a very efficient loader
loading it 38 frames / 38 frames on the vertical axis so its in order
i think i can try a slower timer? or maybe the storage has a limit on how many images are pre-loaded
ill try preloading every image in an individual billboard tomorrow and tell you how it goes
with 92
already a pretty good sample
you can see every time it lag spikes lmao
i mean theoretically speaking 
a 10x10 led display black and white image would fit in 2 num interface
huh
num splitters + binary?
i dont think youd even need num splitters
a 15 digit number can be 50 bit
i think the hard part would be placing each num value, how would you really know what number to input?
oh yeah you'd definitely need a script for that
even to write text in my terminal i use macro script and alot of chatgpt
as it is very encoded and hardly readable
oof
you learn to read it eventually 
new unique egg (selling for 1b) (trust)
also, im not crazy right? the egg texture didnt load correctly, right?
uhh looks fine to me
uhhh how about this one 
yeah ok this ones not lol
lmao
the unstable egg, funny
the unstable internet egg is real
also i gtg cya tomorrow
good luck with the wiring lol
cya
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I'll give 10 oak buck to anyone who manage to translate that into English
@steel moon Idk if you sent me another message and I didn't see it but you can dm me on this account
I figure I'd ask this in a logic area since I'd get an actual answer, the smoke blocks am i able to make them move like there's a breeze or is it only straight up
You can prob just rotate it
And if you can't get a ton and make stair with it
@spring osprey it seems like the server actually only store in memory a certain amount of pictuire , currently loaded ones can be infinite but unloaded ones arent
by preloading 26 out of the 92 images they are all smooth and dont flicker
here it is with all of them loaded
oh i see
is that someone's IP adress? lmao
It's a 16 character sentence lol
Without compression it would be about 240 character instead of 32
damn 
also i dont have the ethernet cable set up yet so this is what i have to deal with
horrible internet π

double dog
3/5 layer done 17 to go
it should speed up
now that ive got it equalised
my god.... i will have to compact this so much
also, do you think my XY system will work? before making the whole thing and it ending up not working at all lol
it's 2 AND gates, one for the X axis and one for the Y axis, connected to the relays
and relays connected to the LEDs
yup this will work but you would need 2 relays
i suggest you try to use a single and gate and a single relay
with double/triple digit increment for one of the axis
this design is good for some VERY specific use case but its actually slower most of the time
and x2 more expensive
wait, why 2 relays?
otherwise it wouldnt be the correct power would it?
oh i didnt think about that
damn lol
the old design for 2 axis was 2 wall of relay with stripes of and gate and a third wall of relay to combiune both and then another to correct the power
but nowadays you can just
1 wall of and gates to choose pos
and 1 of relay so its the correct power
how would it be only 1? Combining both XY axis?
the Y axis gate are set to multiple of 100 or whatever smallest power of 10 is above your max X
ohhhh
you can also use similar stuff but you set each gate to +1
this way its easier to connect the end of a line and the start of a second
but for your use case criss cross is goog
now that i think about it, im not sure how i will do the colors, or maybe just make them all white (even the fruit)
what i can do is input both the color into all relays and XY positions
but then i guess i will need 384 memory gates
you will need those memory gate anyway
for the apples atleast
good point....
good thing with leds is the power are small enough to make full screen check with a single gate
like if your snake is 10 long and each gren tiles =28 and theres 1 red apple at 56 you know total is 336 but if the apple is eaten its 280
i forgot one wire.........bruh lmao
honestly im kinda scared to build the LED screen rn, since i have no clue how to go from here
and i might just waste so much time for something that might not work
that would be so painful lol
i might just do bad apple rn and plan it out first
384 is way too big for snake lol
tbh you could start with a 10x10 and expand
if it really is too small for you
the logic (other than the display) would pretty much be the same no matter the size
also im wondering if all those bad apple frames are public
can you try to find them? @rugged wigeon
also i found this random gem lmao
anyone can use them if they have the id but i cannot see them on your profile if you havent uplaoded them to the store
oh, well i might have
why are there so many random animation frames for boykisser lmao
can you give me the exact name of anyof them?
well i just uploaded from my pc, so they all have the file's name lmao
yeah so anyone can use it with id but i cant see them on your profile
oh alright
when your done with bad apple you can send the id into a transmitter and i can use a reciever to have the full animation as a character when you're on the server lol
wait, YOU CAN INTERCEPT OTHER PEOPLE'S TRANSMITTERS????
yup
what if someone makes a TV channel-
yeah i was thinking about makign a radio
but tv works too
that would be impossible without them telling you
i wanted to use note blocks to try and synthetize voice
i might make the roblox TV announcer meme
i honestly dont like how the note blocks work
the volume is too low and you can know what instruments are on
wah wah wah wah wah wha wah wha
ooo
imagine how cool it would be to just transmit something to everyone's base lol
yup
the terminal is a fancy text display to do all that sort of things lol
its not really 1 project
oh please make it transmit messages lol
other people would prob need a decoder or a display at least but yeah
"/print BALD"
Someone's speaker: "BALD"
idk if you can change whats inside a speaker with logic
would be cool
yeah sadly, you can only print the number input and players names using ID
could make a transmitterless transmiter with that
send in the number on a speaker and recieve with a commander
wait, commanders can detect speakers?
prolly
speaker act as the player
i wish they would detect server messages like the meteor or tips
can't they?
i tried, but it didnt work
aw
with a universal enough display you could run pretty much anything on your base if someone else is there
like have all the logic on one plot and display it on another
would be cool for 1v1 game
so no cheating
oh wait you just gave me an idea
transmit poker lol
yeah best part is you would only need 1 processor and just route it to the correct spot
1 center base with all the logic, and when someone wants to play they give the username and use it on the transmitter
(also a storm is happening outside, rip my internet 2x)
i might have to stop playing for now
the thunder is so loud it's making the house shake
damn
im surprised there is still power
anyways, i will be back after the storm is over, or just be back tomorrow lol
cya
Lmao, i hope it didnt get any audio of my brother
did you open your window
?
No, it's just loud asf lol
lmao, not where i live, we only get strong thunderstorms but never tornados
And i wasnt able to get the big thunder that happend too
there's a very old barn in my garden that shakes so much with wind you always wonder if its gonna fall over 
trees are scary too during wind
I remember there was a thunderstorm so strong it just took one of the trees that we had in front of our house lol
oscillator are great during big thunder
Atleast it didnt take the roots, the tree just revived itself
it grew back from just the roots?
Well the rain just suddenly stopped lol
No, a bit of the trunk survived, it grew off of it
oh ok
It just split the tree in 2
it's surprising that the grew grew back cause it mustve been fragilised alot before the wind
shouldnt have splitted if it was in good shape
Took a long time tho
It's a super tiny tree with a lot of leaves, almost like a boat lmao
Im not surprised it broke, the trunk was tinier than my wrist
there was a huge apple tree in the middle of my backyard that fell over with ALL of the roots
it made a huge crater
Damn wtf
And you want to talk about storms being strong over here lol
the tree was old π
Was the tree rotten or in a bad shape??
Oh
the tree was healthy iirc
like rot wise
but it rained alot wich made the ground softer + wind
Damn, the wind hates the elderly trees apparently lol
Yeah makes sense
I remember a huge tree fell near where i live, took 2 days to take it out of the road
i swear natures purposefully lands in the middle of road
+50 point when it takes down a power line
Massive even 
+10 Combo if it hits a car
lol
and it gives opportunity to make cash π€
picking up branches for people / fixing roof / fixing stuff
Oh lol
Here where i live the houses break the trees, concrete walls are not breaking easily
My house survived the german bombs i think a piece of wood should be fine π
Damn wtf 
meanwhile American house made out of paper, gum and paperclips
Standing on hopes, dreams, nails and bullet shells
making display is always a bet between you and yourself
its a 50/50 of getting burned out before you finish
but at the same time when you finish you can start doing the fun stuff
True
Wish there was a easy way to copy and paste logic
I might make a compilation of suggestions in #1236521625499729920
wiring it takes hours
Tomorrow, because i cant do it rn
Yeah, and you might make mistakes as well, taking even more time
I will add a lot more than that
Something like #1267511175348752486
yeah just post it in there or ping @jagged girder
Sure
progress
@spring osprey ive never done any coding / programming in my life but i think with my current display and encoding methods i can pretty much make it into a computer that doesnt use any binary and actually use the text to write code i can then execute
it's gonna be extremely goofy but atleast i can prove my point that this game's logic was not made for binary
i might write snake
the goal is to be able to write programm without placing / wiring any gate
just straight up write instruction store them in memory and be able to read it
that means an ALU that actually uses the game's calculator 
i just need to do magic so that it can handle 15+ digit calculation
will prob go to like 150 digit or smthing
that also means i might double up the displayto be 50x20 so it can actually show up text very good and also display stuff in a big resolution
like 20x25
just need to hardwire instructions
ill prob be a goblin and just use the 50x10 layout as a 25x20 screen
screen overlap π
ill prob need to do 2 different resolution anyway due to the letter spacing
so 1 for when i display text and 1 for when i display smthing else

damn wtf, good luck that seems impossible
whoa sick
and thats only half speed
im transferring it to another save cause oakland cant handle my plot anymore
30 tps when i turn the machine on
also i cant play today, womp womp, i have places to go
damn
except each time i join on 2 account i crash the server π
also it might become a problem when they have to put limits for roblox's new storage limit
80 umb

btw i have one question with how you make XY displays
let me just grab something rq
yuh?
Aight im on my phone now
This is the sketch i made for the display, LED is the display, the triangle is a memory, circle is the relay square is AND gate
But i was thinking of attaching every AND gate input into a single tether, but how would i send every information? I cant send everything at once thru one tether since it will just add up everything
Also to input something on the display is XXYYZZ, x is color, y is one position and z is another position
Mb if the quality is too low on the camera
And it might be very confusing to understand too lol
oh woops sorry i was transferring plot and completely forgot about that
lemme take a look
yeah you'd have to send everything one by one but it wouldnt really be a problem
like the snake youd only need to update 1 or 2 tiles at a time
if the small delay really bothers you you can use a buffer
the thing is that i dont know how i would so do, and i think i would have to send each tile data every clock update, lagging a lot or having a lot of delay/being too slow
store the updates in memory and shift them one by one
like, how would i send each tile data at a time?
most of the time the data getting calculated is offset already so you can just 0 tick it into the display
you mean each gate having a delay?
no like it ends the 'caculation' not in sync
so you can just send it all as a short pulse
oh wait, are you saying i can just input it all at once and it wont add up on the tether?
if i use the 0 tick?
if you REALLY want it to be crazily efficient you can do it like i did the ghost and use 1 plotter / thing to update
for snake its gonna be so fast that you wont need to do that
sure, also would the blocker + tether work as a 0 tick?
im not in the game rn so i cant take a screenshot of it
blocker + tether = clock memory cell + tether = 0 tick
same setup
just different gate
aight
ima try it when i come back later
theres probably a ton of other setup to generate a 0 tick but memory cell is cool cause it outputs the value you send in
ohhh yeah, thats useful
i discovered the blocker clock while trying to make a 0 tick pulse lol
took me a while to realise why it would flash like that
crazy how many inventions come from happy little accidents
especially when you try stuff with mechanics that shoulndt exist
btw for some reason the lag bugs are gone, it's all loading correctly now
idk if i somehow fixed it, if my internet randomly got better (it didnt) or if it was a roblox error and it got fixed
atleast i can play roblox now 
@rugged wigeon changed it to transmitters and did some more wiring
im going to have to sell some more to buy new gates
should i also make a transmitter for turning the animation on/off? so people can turn it on/off from their bases?
also brb, im going to be back in 4-5 hours (maybe? idk)
transmitter"s"???
you can just use a single transmitter lol
i know but i mean for the pre-load too
'BadApple' and 'PreLoadBadApple'
would be cheaper to billboard it all than to transmitter it all
huh?
do billboards cost more than transmitters?
transmitter + reciever
oh right lmao
but i mean like
if your gonna spend that much
might as well use billboard and have it all preloaded
but it wouldnt pre-load everything, since you have to be looking at it, unless i made a mess of wires to bring all of them to the front of the animation

NOOOOOOOOOOOO
THATS SICK π₯
Oh wow it looks really cool
ah hell nah 24 tps?
public server lol
ah nvm, thats valid
had to move the build to another plot
i crashed 6 server doing that
also why does it update at random times?
new title: the server murderer
it updates every 2 seconds but when its the same twice it just doesnt move
oh i see
i would expect it to update to more random numbers ngl
its always multiples of 2
cant get more precise
im measuring with a 2 tick clock
and counting how many time it can activate per second
so on a good server it ill activate 30 times
ohhh yeah i see
30 times per second is crazy though
what happens if it hits 0? lol
does the server just crash?
kaboom
server would prob crash before hitting 0
yeah fair enough
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hm?
not sure
you need to start from scratch tho

i mean, there is a month to work with
also can there be teams? or just individual players?
there can be teams
lol hell nahhh
we can team tho
ive got a pretty cool project
sure, why not
oh?
dms
aight
@rugged wigeon mind if I steal you in dms real quick?
go ahead
@rugged wigeon converting more people to the tether clock cult
b
when the comp is done ill post some vid of the project progression over time
Kk
yup the more you tile it the slower it can get

