#REVERT THE ACIDSMOG DAMAGE CHANGE

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steel dove
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Overview

The new acidsmog changes limit playtime in the uranium caves to 10 minutes

In 1.75.1, the acidsmog damage was changed from 1.5 to 1.85
The new damage values make it borderline impossible to actually get anything done down there, significantly damaging the viability of uranium.
More damage means it takes longer to heal, and you have less survivability once unequipping your choice of coil
-# (Currently the regen coil is the best for the uranium caves due to the anti-gravity feature of the fusion coil making it incredibly hard to manouver in the tight spaces)
-# (https://discord.com/channels/865737627712749579/1338150943744852120)

The Math

From full health, it takes ~35 seconds to be completely drained, then ~2:30 to get back to full health.
Rounding that to 30s : 150s in terms of time spent playing : time healing.. in an hour long run, you would get only 10 minutes of gameplay

600 seconds mining and moving items
3000 seconds spent regenerating health.
And while, yes, you can regenerate while driving, the fact you only get 10 minutes of actually playing the game is unbelievable.

Luckily for this post, I managed to find a server that was still running on 1.75, rather than 1.75.1

Pre changes, it took ~60 seconds to get to 0 health.
Slighty less if you get to the minimum amount you can get to before equipping the coil again, but we'll work with 60.
Going from close to death to max health takes you only 45 seconds
Thats over a 300% increase in the time it takes to regen between versions
60 seconds of playtime : 45 seconds regen time
In an hour, that's.. 2057.14286 seconds : 1542.85714 seconds
34.3 minutes playing
25.7 minutes healing

Due to the massive difference in time, the income per minute from uranium has suffered a massive downgrade.
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Summary

The old acidsmog damage values provided a nice challenge. You spent just under 50% of your time healing, and the other 50% was spent actually playing the game. A balanced mix
The new acidsmog damage more than triples the time spent healing, and halves the time you can actually play the game.

This change has made uranium practically a death sentence to obtain. It swaps a fun health management challenge for a waiting game, where you spend 5/6 of your time sitting waiting for your health to regen.

The request?

CHANGE IT TO BE LESS DAMAGING -PLEASE-
-# P.S. Don't forget to upvote ;)

steel dove
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The argument that "You can heal to half, not full!" Is completely null, before it gets brought up.

Sure, you get back to playing faster. But what don't you have? Health. You have to bring out the coil faster, due to the lesser volume of health that the smog can eat through

If you were to heal for half the time, 75s (The rough time it took to heal pre-1.75.1), you would only get 15 seconds of gameplay.
-# (Values adjusted for the rounding previously)

... Which is STILL in the ratio of 1/5 from before

steel dove
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Change the Acidsmog damage to any amount lower than 1.85/s

steel dove
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REVERT THE ACIDSMOG DAMAGE CHANGE

steel dove
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I'd also like to point out that pre-1.75.1, you were unlikely to reach over 10k/min.

In an hour-ish mining session, I was able to get roughly 500k in ore. (Sold via the flame pits)
If we use the previous value of 34.3 minutes of playtime in an hour with the old smog, each minute of gathering earned you 15k.
This is offset by the 25.7 minutes spent regenerating, meaning the actual value is more around 8333/min. Still below the cap of 10k/min

If, in an hour session with the new smog, you only get 10 minutes of playtime (Time to gather resources), you realistically are capped at 150k per hour - A pitiful 2500/min.
Once again sticking with the theme of threes, that's over a 300% loss

trail remnant
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PLZZZZ PLZ PLZZZ ZIM GRINDING SAPPHIRE AGAIN PLZZZ REVERT

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THIS STUFF IS LIKE GRINDING MAGMITE OR WHATEVER ITS CALLED ITS HARD

true nexus
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i more likely want to buff the healing coil or fusion coil's healing

spark finch
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Either what your suggesting, or atleast some kind of new healing belt of such, something to equiped while we use are pickaxe, or have a new feature where we could use both are hands to hold a object that way we could hold the fusion coil along with a pickaxe...

dim light
spark finch
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Right something along those lines!

steel dove
valid crescent
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You could rather use a kind of delay on the new acid crown. I already thought about it earlier, so let me explain. While wearing the crown you get like 1-2 minutes of shield. When the timer is over, you start to take acid damage (just as normal). The crown needs like 2 minutes to regenerate its powers and then you can use it again. That way you get more benefits but its not so overpowered like the obsidian belt.

steel dove
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Problem with that is that you’d need to constantly exit the zone over and over
Once again causing it to be waiting simulator

valid crescent
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Sure, I’m aware of that problem (even tho I ment that the crown could regenerate in the zone too) but that way it would at least give the player a bigger window between the waiting sessions.

marble yoke
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You know 1 stud of uranium if worth 2x the sapphire

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So if they make things easier

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They would have to nerf the value of uranium

steel dove
# marble yoke You know 1 stud of uranium if worth 2x the sapphire

It was difficult enough to justify the price when it was added - Acidsmog that required a 50/50 timesplit between healing and playing, a wide area with narrow-ish bridges, Enemies that actively try to harm you, literal lakes of acid that your rocks could fall into

With the updated values: your time goes to 20/80 of playing being the 20% and healing being the 80% and Fusion coils make those narrow birdges and sharp turns borderline impossible without spilling your cargo (Basically requiring the healing coil),

steel dove
late sapphire
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BUMP OML PLS.

steel dove
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Been bumpin it, just forgot for a few days

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It doesnt show bc I was deleting the "Bump" everytime.. because posts full of them look tacky

marble yoke
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Im not sure if they meant they want it reverted or they want you to bump it

late sapphire
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i mean i want it reverted!