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lol
also im glad you like my basement
Anychance you’re coming back ? lol
not tn
Darn Alr have a good evening !
May i ask why
its very silly
yes
I am also silly 
sad sakura is not viable
I don’t think it’s really supposed to be
but petalfall
midgame sure
Yeah if that’s the case it def needs a buff since rn it’s only like 1-2k optimized
Well idk lucky got like 5k at some point, I keep forgetting about there being bigger sakura now
Yeah the trees are pretty large but each big tree is around 7k
And big trees take a decent amount of time to process with weaker set ups
Do trees just take longer to chop overall, or does it scale up with the number of ramifications?
low quality bush sneek peek
most automatic tree cutters suck imo
with the new chopping mechanic i dont think theyre going to really be neccesary
#oak-general message
once i have all the materials in the game i should have the biggest material list bc i have the glitched ones from jaks test islands
what are your test islands???
vro doesnt know 💀
from what ive heard its a place where unreleased trees/forageables were located
Dang new farming method?
its not on the map so youd have to fly to it i think
unless youre talking about something different 
We do not talk about the forbidden spruce tree
I had 8 of those but one of them got eaten by a schematic 
the new has won
i finally got a design down for the processor
its an absolute monstrosity though so it might not be very practical 🙁
just gotta work on the logic
would love to see a test run of it
are you nerfing flowers?
idk
bro, for flowers its fair. because you build a machine that jars them quickly
i have to redo my lavender data cause when frumpy said i was "doing it wrong" i deleted the data
its not the darn flowers fault 😔
whats the plan for buffs ked
cause im gonna make a note of it
ive buffed sapphire and flameslate spawnrates a lil
.
alright
and snow tree price increase
mk
snow tree new meta???
lemme note that down rq
and then kelp/lumi kelp nerf
yay so no flowers
not yet at least
no not at all atleast
mk cool got it all noted down
so ill know what to test right when the update is out
smart
also, looks like hoofer is gonna have to work on implementing the new tree chopping behavior soon since it won in the poll
you know what else won in the polls? 
Alien axe one taps ice pine
doesn't even need to charge

was just about to start an ice pine run
landed right infront of me
So the semi's back wheels DO NOT MOVE so we can't do icy slopes anymore
noticed this with newest update
was this even intended?
didn't happen previously
bruh
gonna have to revise everything when i play oaklands again
All trailers have become super slippery since update
god (hoofer) was telling you not to do ice pine run
use grav or infused coil and you can get it to work 👍
gotcha thanks
also Alien axe is just better than emberbane now
full charge cuts plek in one go while ember full charge doesn't
def getting nerfed we all know it
some of the slopes take some effort but you can definitely do it
By how much if I may ask? Right now Sapphire spawns can be boosted simply by server hopping, so having a spawnrate where that is no longer required would be a godsend, as I have been losing quite a lot of ore after a bad server hop (sometimes anything mined after the first server hop doesn't save and gets deleted if you hop again)
Yeah server hopping is so scary now, entire semi truck full just vanished , and regular trailers always despawning
Yup. This happened to me today:
Before Hopping:
After Hopping:
Wow that’s crazy…
dont rely on it
i dont remember exactly but I boosted the total rock spawns in the cave by like 20 ish nodes i beleive
i can check in abit
I haven’t really. My big issue is I play mobile . Like being able to hop on and off throughout the day . So if I’m out farming and have to hop off it’s scary to load back in haha
Oaklands moment
average streaming enabled experience
is there a spreadsheet of what is good to grind
I update this infrequently
Wowie big changes
Jak, after the secret friday's been solved will you update the prices of the new mats?
yea some of them will need balancing likely
might need to be nerfed, but they are hard to get to
Notes for Snow Tree
Travel Times
4.33
3.83(Could be faster on the way back)
11k per min high rate
end result^
strategy I basically only took the lower half and not the spiky parts
if spiky part had somewhat large branches I took those too
gonna do another
How did you
so can you test only going for ones on mountain
so ice pine no spawn on ice?
cause I'm not at the glaciers
I'm at the main island portion
if its on ice its a no no i think
no it spawns on ice just not the glaciers or that one lower area
oh
can you send a pic of the general area?
by glaciers you mean the ice path?
yeah they spawna ton on the left
ya
if you guys want to test balancing for void crystal and the trees in void once you figure that stuff out that would be epic 👍
I think the trees are most likely fine but idk abt the void crystal
yeah i def will
I haven't figured out the entrance to void
u need to enter the region for them to spawn
gotcha
they'll spawn up here tho
ok so we'll basically just have to go up higher for them
fusion coil on ice is gonna make me crash out
I'm gonna cry
this spot fine?
its right next to the station
i think thats one of the bad spots
what about this one
istg if you make us climb to the observatory to harvest ice trees...
its gotta be hard to get bruh
yeah
with it spawning near the bottom in high amounts that just makes it easy
also im not really needing fusion coil on the ice
11.3k high rate with this spot
seems strong: #oak-general message
ONE heavenly tree paid me 150k damn
Yeah I think no matter where the ice trees are, it should still be fine
also Jak new mats where do they fit in with money per min
I imagine the void crystals being end game cause they’re a bit of a pain to get
Who designed this
Anyway once I take my long nap cause I lowkey didn’t sleep last night, I’ll get some data that includes getting the entire ice trees and see how much worse that is from just taking the base of it
Cause a lot of people just kinda take the whole tree
Brother it getting nerfed
oh for this I didn't time how long it takes to look at the compass to locate the tree; which takes a minute 15
1.25
makes the rate 15k per min
Without Light Etcher Btw so the max rate is prolly higher
huh void crystals only being 3 alien pick hits
white darkling is evil
who is vro talking to
meeee
its soo cool
???
well not reallyy
also jak is this area an intended one?
yea
I rise
@torpid ocean are you more curious about void crystals and trees rn or magmite/flameslate
void stuff
Juicy
big middle tree?
Yeahh
I give up; failed twice with the semi alrdy😭
thats it for me today
but either way took me 17 min to fill a semi of shadow tree and around 9 min one way to the area
failed on the way back
used magma entrance
semi full of most mats is around 1,000 studs for reference
if theres a route that does not involve me cliff diving that would be much appreciated
#oak-general message
i made 1m off a 75% full semi of void crystal
blawg im LOST
Please make the darklings with the droppable tools either slower like the other tool wielding ones or make them not one shot please
no but i cant really fix it
#oak-media message
So this layer gets put up again after a while
Requires 2 large bombs
Below first layer of void rock
Doesn’t have texture for sum reason
After a while is around an hour
#oak-questions message
Is this real? You can actually get 7mill from a big log?
Cause if it is, I'm rebuilding the Sequoia cutter
Sequoia is around 9k units full
4.5k times whatever the stud price is
40500000
Thats still absurd
@torpid ocean can we get the mat values of the new things for science reasons
Please
is that real?
It’s prolly a 4th of a sequoia or smth but defo above 5 mil
is this getting nerfed
in oak news u will have to convert to planked tho
X 1.25
thanks
also new mats are not affected by stocks right?
Jak was Boomite buffed? its stock price is higher than its presumed base price. (168.3 currently vs 165 base)
Flamslate + Magmite 15k per min
used a potion but even accounting for that its 14k
high rate btw
Apparently my Flamslate + Magmite spreadsheet has been broken this whole time 😭(Other runs not this one)
just fixed em

You have shadow etcher?
Did a void crystal run with just a sellner and got 10k per min; got lucky and found a 2 crystal on the initial downward descent; MM entrance
gonna do a run with sellner plus 3 large crates now
We need a 6 wheeled extended flatbed sellner
Which entrance you use bruh
what’s bette shadow or the big one
The oobmab one
God no, tried a semi and failed horribly
got an 11k run with this; mined 6 crystals total
ngl void crystals feel very luck based since a 3 node basically makes a run half finished
Mmm yeah they do appear quite sporadicly
@torpid ocean will you sign a tomb good sir for my collection
Only a bit longer than the sellner , but full flatbed instead of box still be nice for short crate runs
I was able to do a semi run and I got like around what lucky got
I think I got like a bit more but still
#oak-media message
so shadow > magma per stud right?
and shadow etcher 1-2 taps the trees and shadow is around 5x larger than any magma
#oak-general message
idk but i get 600k in 20-25 minutes
HMMM
where do you find a flat spot to load them in? all mine just roll off
I have zero clue its not me grinding
oh mb bro
no its like the same
Imma do a run tmrw since I just got a shadow etcher
tried doing a shadow run then the server got shut down
at least I got the route down
14.5k per min for shadow
again similar to blue pine if you had a reallly good bandsaw set up for it; it would be broken
whats the spawn rate for great shadow trees btw since I only found 1 in the initial cutting
#oak-general message
Should smth like this be considered when balance testing?
Were you in new server
How new?
last night
Yes
Optimized ?
No normal rate
I would have no clue what optimizes would be
It wouldn’t be 0.5 at least
mm ok
Could you maybe try to swap the travel time with going thru magma entrance just to see what that is
magma is so much worse but sure I can time that
Because whenever I release river revamp the mushroom entrance will have like 4-6 extra minutes probably
couple problems with magma when bringing out shadow trees
I think I can only do magma with a boxed semi in this case
Why you telling on us smart people
We just think better thats why we make more😭
But throw in the nerfs will ya
10:31 one way with magma to my spot with the semi flatbed; 11k per min estimate prolly lower
this is ur setup?
Yes
ya selling it?
I agree and I don't think it should be nerfed but it's not my call to make
Well its just like right when the people are happy some people feel the need to go tell the devs😭
Like let the people have darn fun
No wonder people sit in silence with their methods and make everyone suffer not telling them sad...
Im working on making a better design rn as we speak
you posted it mate 😔
and yet some people get mad when we gatekeep things 😂
Not to be sent right to the balance dev like bruh
I was helping the people thats what my job is
yeah
you could try telling people in dms so you-know-who doesnt see it, but no guarantees theyll keep it a secret
Yeah well darn the shadow trees are nerfed now i swear they are tiny and people are saying 200k a semi load
😭
Like bruhhhh they want us to farm damn magma wood why is that always the bottom standard
Till magma took over again
Its always been magma
I have a growing hatred for that place lol
Well we can only hope now the fate is in jaks hands
imma js wait for the fishing update
I think the value stayed the same for the trees but the trees are small now thats what's changed
Im not sure so im gonna finish a test run really packing the semi takes longer to get now too but if it still pays the same thats fine
Tested and it was indeed nerfed by like half
Even with professional stacking skills and 0 errors the speed is no where near what it was 300k for a stacked semi was 650k before🥀
And it took longer to get
So much sadness
dayum
it’s been nerfed already?????
shadow trees
@torpid ocean have u nerfed shadow again ?
Everyone's saying different things i actually have no clue then idk why i would only get 300k tho from a semi when its usually 650k i understand branch sizes can effect the price because its in studs but all the trees seemed small like all of them yesterday 2 big trees filled the semi completely today I had to chop like 5 to fill the semi
its already considered, we do optimized rates
alr, Ill fix this
I thought it was based on regular machine setups not done with advanced setups also was it nerfed everyones wondering and I gotta know if im just tripping and dumb lol
it is, optimized rates are fine being above the target rates
yea ill post i forgot
Ahh ok
so it’s been nerfed? i’m a bit slow
its on the stock market now tho
Oh niceeee
and the other new stuff
W jak
it took me like 20 mintues to find where the script was for stock market lmao
God
(im just dumb oaklands scripts are organized well)
are there any plans to make light etcher better than the shadow etcher? it's considerably harder to get than the shadow etcher but seems to be a lot more niche
I didn't really want to make it that much better because its a huge pain to get and I'd rather it kinda just be a cooler version for people who want that, than like a neccessary tool to be able to get the highest rates on stuff
main use would be heavenly trees
that's fair, but it doesn't really seem worth it at all right now, though I haven't found any heaven trees yet. I guess I just hoped it'd at least also be good against void grove trees as well so it'd be a sorta optional upgrade
Only every Friday tho so you cant really farm those efficiently... I feel like the light one should have been easier to get the shadows more useful imo to late now tho ig
if it means anything I was very disappointed to have grinded for so long only for it to be worse than the one I got much earlier, but I can understand if it's just for flex and maybe it'll be useful on fridays, still haven't been able to test it on heaven trees so I can't say for sure if its that useful
I heard it 1 shots them so thats very useful but for the rarity and the chance you will even see a heavenly tree its kinda strange how hard it is to get
its not worse, its like 5% better, just doesnt have the shadow tree / suiractal buff
maybe ill add that to it
shadow and suiractal buff would be perfect, and 5% better is good to hear
ill add that rn, will be released with next upd
I just say worse since shadow and suiratcal are much more consistent
alright, thank you!
Yeah that would make so much sense its rare and hard to get having it do both features is a W
Then its worth grinding for
are the values for Shadow and Suiratcal reasonable enough for me to go back to grinding other resources from time to time? I love the new stuff but it kinda felt like all other resources became worthless to grind
Idk I’ve yet to do proper runs on them to see if it’s been nerfed too much
I will do runs later this evening to see
170 something a stud to 123
A stud thats huge
I believe it wont go lower
big trees are really easy and fast to stack so it makes sense
if they arent it will be buffed
data is appreciated
I can't time trips because I go afk a lot but I can let you know how much a flatbed semi of either of them would be
at least neatly stacked and not going off of the bed
hmm, just going off of the prices on the stock market though I will say Suiratcal seems very high for big tree/logs, but again I haven't tested them so I can't say for sure. Higher price per stud than something like magma trees which has small logs that take longer to stack and process looks wrong though
it is harder to get to it with the enemies so I'm not saying for sure that it's wrong though, but it's easier to stack on a truck
ngl I need to test suiratcal with just a sellner or smth
whelp that ruined a good run
someone on a public server was trying to convince me the desert route was best and I've been trying to learn the route for myself lol, I needed to see this
theres defo an rng aspect with this; my shadow run didn't have a single corrupted even tho I had 3x the amount of trees on a flatbed
Bring back original boomite and adurite sell prices!!1!1!1!!!
so what’s everyone grinding now
Idek
Been struggling all day barely moved in money
I might just accept the nerf and stick to shadow lol
I hate the other options even just want and did uranium was like 40 minutes for 175k
Like bruh what the helly
I must suck or something cause thats not matching up with how good they say it is
uranium sucks
Also tried snow trees and they are just too small got a huge semi full and it was only 300k it took me like a hour to load drive back prosses it and sell
They are worth a good amount per stud but when a branch is only 2 studs it doesn't really work
Why do you like shadow so much just curious
Also try plek you might like it better
it is still a viable option
jumper said he got 700k/hr 
y are you even in this part of the cave!!!
I feel like shadow was overnerfed.
Idk i zoned out
I dont
oof
uranium is like stupid
I wanna figure out a different mechanic
Is there anyway to know if I’m on a newer server?
If you got in a private or solo server you are
My idea: Yk those minigames where you have an allotted amount of time to collect x resources or else you fail? Instead of collecting resources, we have to murder goblins, and for each goblin we kill, we get some points. At the end of the time limit, we get some nodes of uranium/greeb based on the score.
Lore wise there's some person that hates goblins for idk killing big reptiles and assigns the player to assassinate various types of goblins around the acid lands. These goblins are spawned in when quests start in specific areas/landmarks are glowy to make it easier for the player to see who they have to murder. The goblins drop some parts of a key(or whatever) that you bring to the person to fix. Key(or whatever) opens a door that, when you pass through it, tps you to a location where the minigame starts.
the door tp thing is just so the player can't bring a ufo or smth
I mean that would be cool as like something to do in the arena but not really a mechanic for grinding uranium
like I wanna do something in the uranium section of the cave that isnt poison fog
Did suiractal get nerfed ?
I can only think of:
Maybe have evolved goblins/skeletons in the uranium area that have evolved due to higher radiation levels? Similar to alien invasion, they drop uranium bits instead of scrap?
Reaction-Based Skill Checks; everytime you try to mine a uranium node in that area theres a series of 4 skill checks, failing one deals 40 dmg to the player. or like any simple skill check in general
uranium bits would be interesting
make the uranium shoot out radiation when you mine it
Definitely still viable and I really like the void jumper is also like a pro grinder lol
But shadow wood isnt hard just gotta learn to stack
uranium would be awesome to get a rework or even if you could buy like a health potion to splash yourself every now and then to fill your health to make it abit more fun and less just standing around
Im not really sure what you could do there....
or what your plans are but it was very rough lol
I really want foragble consumable buff effect thingys
one of em would be just like a health potion
it would be so cool
Yeah that would be awesome
No one really farms fruit anymore either so it would be sick
Would you mind making a guide on how to stack good?
I have a guide up that shows how to do it well with the box on the semi
If your doing it without the box the logs just go the opposite direction to stack them
Is the guide in #videos-and-streams?
Were shadow trees also given a smaller max size?
Yes I belive so
He confirmed the price nerf but im not sure about size I could be trippin
From what I can tell they are smaller still good method tbh
But definitely missed out if you didn't farm within the last few days
Luckily I did and used it buy a powerful wood machine.
W
I think void grove is good in its current state tbh, it should still be monitored but I think it's worth its difficulty
okay not resource related but space blaster dealing damage from outside of the enemies detection range seems really cheesy, and the goblin bow and acid staff both misfire often (makes sound, doesn't shoot anything or deal damage while aiming at enemies, even if close)
also sometimes enemies spawn right ontop of you, which is a huge pain when they throw you into instakill soup
@torpid ocean when will speed coil/ fusion coil give cars speed boost
When fusion coil will become an acessory like scooba tank ?
Never
I don't think
Also wouldn't really work unless you could toggle each individual ability on and off as you'd like
It was just a joke
Ah I thought you were serious lol
But I wish better aim on the space blaster, I cant aim downwards 😭
What's the best way to get a whole suiratcal tree to your plot
use lunar staff
Hire someone/buy off market lol
just do it piece by piece through multiple trips if its not for decor
or if you have lunar staff you can get entire tree to one of the entrances and chop it up and get it you your base
and maybe this
I'm not sure
I can try and squeeze a run in rq before I have to go to class
Obviously joking
It pays very good but server hopping only a few people really do that
Some people also have weird glitches and methods they gatekeep
We cant see the monthly sellers anymore so idk who's doing it but... I know for a fact most of us arnt making a large impact on that 200 something million everyday from it
Ik people server hop until a big tree spawns but I don't understand how they are so efficient with it... I use alot of brain power😭☠️ and its not that crazy
I dont actually make that much maybe im slow but even if all the players were making what I am the number wouldn't be at 200 million everyday
brainpower what is that ?
I have exhausted every possible way to try and get those trees faster and better I dont see how you can without exploits
For the rate that it's at
Hoofer hopefully gonna patch what I think it is soon
Urgh I ran out of time to get a run in, I’ll be able to do a few in a few hours when I’m home
when i server hop my truck NEVER stays w me
but why doesn’t my truck stay w
Idk
Jak when is a fix coming for goblins spawning under map …
There's also a spot if you drive over with the ufo it launches you up
Maybe people are flinging trees through the map or something
Idk if that would work
But I can get a picture of the spot later its just strange how it pushes you up
Or kills you instantly
No thats when it jams you into the map
And it says your going 9999 studs
Thats not what I mean
This spot literally shoots you straight up
And without the new invisible barrier they probably were able to get whole trees that way
Thats how people got the messed up ones
@torpid ocean I heard a few people have trees like this too.... so the price of the sui tree could just be messed up because they are selling it
I have even seen people in random servers with big parts of the trees that no way could have fit through any entrance
I love server hopping
And being so large thats huge money
sui didn't seem that excellent to me definitely one of the best options but its not as broken as it seems
its only 350k a tree right?
Its like 350k for the normal ones and the slightly bigger ones are like 450 -600k
But they take awhile to get
To cut and prosses
And you can fall lose the tree or die at any point
Fr thats what im saying
yeah tbh I feel like the rates should be higher for some resources
People are cheating like 100%
I play like 8 hours a day some days and theres no way to make that much now even with lost of experience
Im fast at loading the semi selling.... my machine setups great but theres no way
I wonder if classic joop crate sui might be better
would be hard to consisteintly tho
I think the way anchoring works in general is kinda busted for these larger trees, especially when they're worth so much
Getting the tree off the island isnt the hard part moving it through all the stupid spikes and annoying enemies is the problem
They hit you and you fly into the hole and die they hit you into spikes you try and run out with the coil you die
A tree is in the way and you cant lift the sui tree through them so you put it down and are swarmed by dumb enemies
Don't get me wrong I like how it is rn but its in no way broken
People are exploiting making it look to good
I understand, I just think the anchoring is something worth thinking about now that we have expensive big tree. If it's fine then it's fine, just something to think about
There's methods to easily anchor things
Or grab them think outside of the box
Unfortunately this one tho is the only thing I will always gatekeep😭
Apologies
if its using a grabber while driving that ones pretty well known I think, but I'm assuming it isn't
I don't really see a problem with doing that, maybe how strong it is with the lunar staff? idk, again just stuff to think about
as far as I care the game is balanced because I don't feel like I have to restrict myself to only one method to make good moolah :)
Void's a little better, I think it's a good risk reward thingy
my fave will always be Magma I think, it's just quick and easy for me
I meant initial void
initial void discouraged me from playing past grinding the two axes
I just dumped all the money I got from the 2 trips on semis and gave someone the rare blue one I got for free 
Nope
Lunar staff tho.. can pick up the whole tree
Most of the time that works too
The grabber doesn't work for these trees i wouldn't even try
So is it better to farm Shadow Trees over Suis?
Also I feel like the thorns need some kind of tinkering.
Yeah I know im saying I think the reason the sui tree is so high on the daily sold materials is because people are selling them that they had saved from before
maybe
I think that people are using this or UFO & moon grabber
I asked if hoof can patch using grabbers while inside vehicles I think that it will remove some of these exploits
is this balanced?
Y
Don't people usually just chuck on their sellner
It should weld
huh ig I'm an oldie
back in my day it didn;t
Can you guys also nerf the thorns while you’re at it, or at least fix their hitboxes.
I hope he doesnt
Why
Because I like this
It makes my life easier
And I dont need to die to the monster so often
why don't you just use a vehicle with an actual bed
When I tried, it flipped while I was going back
More than once
So, I just fly with ufo and moonstaff
Its safer
ya sure but it's not intended and it makes it way too easy
I’ll still be able to use a staff without a vehicle right?
Yes lol
Sounds like it’d cost a lot of bombs though.
In public servers, the lava entrance is always open
Always open, or is it that a bunch of people keep it open as it seems to be the most popular entrance.
Like, if we wait for 20% buff, 700k per hour
But we took a long time sawing it
I getting through the void to another entrance sounds like agony.
no the plek cave and lava cave are connected above the void
thru the void entrance
there is like a drop on the plek side tho
so you can't drive up there
Sounds like it.
or is plek better
Suiractal is better(for now)
if you are cheesing it with a moon staff and UFO suiratcal is probably best
but that's gonna be fixed
you just grab the tree and get in
won’t the ufo like fly down?
wdym
Ufo never fly down
I think people just take the whole thing
maybe cut it up once they out of the grove idk
prolly cut in void entrance area
still have to wait for the tree tho
for it to spawn
It spaws very quickly
It seems that the more people the faster
I always farm in group
And when I'm alone, it takes some time
idk how that’s like more quicker then just taking it to where u load it up n go back
just safer i guess?
I like to put in in the non upgraded semi, because the suiractal is big and gets stuck when I try to get it out of the cave
not if u server hop public
ahhh
ya i don’t understand this ufo 😭im guessing u don’t go straight over the void do ya?
no lol
yeah i give up lol my ufo goes flying when going up a slope 💀
Also in the new experiment, I was yk grinding the early game and noticed that spruce saplings required a different tier compared to the larger tree type for some reason
and MM is amazing for mid game
I'm curious about the intended way to farm some materials, like, are we expected to use the semi for stuff like Suiratcal and Magma or just the easier stuff to get to? Because I've been having lots of trouble trying to get to the middle island with the semi, I much prefer just using a sellner and getting small amounts at a time
Your just making yourself struggle more
Most materials should be grinded with a semi even if it has a box or not
you just make way more some exceptions obviously but not many
For testing purposes me and cosmic always try to optimally grind any mat whether that includes server hopping jumping off cliffs with a semi etc.
am I though? I'm not trying to climb any leaderboards, I want to use the semi but more often than not I find myself struggling to make a turn for a minute or two, or having all my logs fall off after I get out to kill an enemy that just spawned, it's not enjoyable for me to use a semi for lots of these harder materials
I say, there isn’t really a “wrong” way to grind, just do what’s most comfortable and easy for you
Sure if you’re trying to get rich quick you can be grinding incorrectly, but otherwise just depends on play style
^ yeah if you dont actually care about getting the most money you can it doesn't matter games are all about fun at the end of the day
thats fair, I guess I'm just wondering what the devs expected players to grind these with so I can better understand if it feels good balance wise
I only said that because personally I don't have fun if im making 100k a sale or something
Makes me get off😂
Only thing I can say tho is practice makes perfect
I made 170k off of 6 logs with a sellner just now
You will eventually get better at driving the semi
semi for plek is crazy; how'd you get it in consistiently?
Wdym? Oh, the bomb walls yeah those suck, but with refined scuba gear you can just enter through the waterfall
all the paths are really wide in my experience except the bomb walls I hate the bomb walls
Yes but the actual cave entrance is tiny
You cant fit a semi
Like the path right at the lumite shop
well thats not the only enterance
I dont farm plek so i really dont know
Thats one of the things I have farmed like 4 times
I've tried others it doesn't work out consisteintly
Used to be great then they changed the plek cave
I have the opposite experience, old plek cave I got stuck all the time
😂😭
well I WAS gonna go get some Plek to see if anythings changed
I wish my heavenly spawns were that easy😭
so yeah the leftmost entrance is easy for the semi, didn't have any trouble getting through the one near the shop either, and the rightmost one is definitely big enough I'm not even gonna test it
not boxed; flatbed is suboptimal due to plek reasons
it's not boxed because I stack them sideways, I don't think boxed would even change anything on the left and right
imagine leaving there with it stacked sideways lol
I.. have?
I don't remember I'll tell you when I finish up later
gotcha thanks
snow tree
Like snow
Yeah tons of it above the giant hill in snow biome
But I honestly wouldn't recommend grinding that...
I tried it i was very disappointed
too used to shadow smh
its quick and easy when the lift WORKS
Bruh nah any other methods are better because of this distance and the trees size in studs is tiny
its 180k a semi load its fineee
Also ontop of that is annoying to load the vehicles tiny little branches
Thats absolutely awful
just don't bring the branches
I hope your joking
bro I got 160k off of suiratcal with a sellner what are you doing in the void
Not using a sellner
icepine
.. the semi is a must
semi is a must if you're a sweaty sweat :)
takes around 18 min its fine
Thanks didnt know it was the snow one - Hate lift anyway i never use it haha
so whats the latest progression regardless balancing
I mean you clearly have skill with that method or have farmed it lots before but str8 up that isnt that great with today's meta
cause its unbalanced😭
if snow pine is that bad! perfect! it wont get nerfed if i do a video
❤️ finally one that wont be lol
I never said it was wrong tho
at least it wasn't my intention
Yeah actually true reading up mb seems like you were saying ice pine is fine😂
What's your ideal per hour end game material goal
Yeah id have to agree then jak said 10k per minute is around end game material goal thats 600k a hour..
People are making a million something a hour
But balancing would be so hard because every method is different speeds
we time it
Yes but that doesn't account for weird methods and things people do
we have a very nice spreadsheet
To increase speeds
Me and cosmic can't optimally study every resource
we need more ppl😭
@torpid ocean wdym by eatign fruits give buffs
Idk bruh the way of testing materials has to change
Jak, are sellners valid for testing the whole 10k per minute thing or nah? we talked about it earlier but I just wanna get dev confirmation that I can contribute to this thread with my sellner because I am bad at driving the semi
semi is giant truck right?
Only some materials... not using a semi for some would just throw the number off by way to much
yeah
Causing the thing to get buffed for the people who use the semi
i dont even have semi on my giant 400 hours plot...
I just wanna know if it'd be useful to have metrics for other vehicles too, I'll obviously mention what vehicle I use for stuff but it'd be good to know if thats something thats being considered at all
cuz if not I won't even bother y'know?
I use my sellner a lot
Probably yeah I'm not sure what jaks looking for he should answer tho
W
alright, I'll try to gather some data with my runs later. I'm really not good for times when it comes to semi usage unless it's easy materials because I always take breaks 😭
do you have a spreadsheet yet?
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Kv_hTc4MtcLJ4rjDBtzszDyZYruRY3pLygiUZA8p_90/edit?usp=sharing
dope
does it say lmao for anyone else
ohhh
a is a naughty word you should change it to lmbo 
how do I make a copy? I've never actually used any spreadsheets or google docs before, and if I have I clearly forgot LOL
I see in the pinned there was a time where they specifically wanted tests on lategame materials, is there anything specific that would be good data?
Yeah idk im a dummy those spreadsheets make 0 sense to me😭
it makes it easier for me to adjust material values and figure out what rates will be
and have separate travel / farming /processing time can be helpful too
the travel time is gonna be very useful when I do river update since a bunch of stuff will need to be buffed due to increased travel time
I can just add an additional few minutes (or however much longer it takes) and figure how much stuff needs to be buffed
Fair enough
can we buff after this time?😭
like test first
there will be lot of testing for it yea
I'm gonna try and get it done even if fishing isn't ready yet
More time to tesst
Yes
Eh he’s got like 2 other people helping him he’ll be fine
Oh I thought he was the only one doing the balancing
No
I would loveee more than 2 other ppl
Well w then
LMAO yeah
Where's there supporter roles???
Like contributer?
Idk I didn’t think too much about it tbh
Nnnno I don’t think so
Idk i have seen yall helping here for like months I think yall deserve it but idk how that works and it aint my call
Think it’s just cause nobody really “contributes” I suppose
Think Jak would have to ask like one of the CMs to give the role
Yeah not sure how the role works
I was gonna ask if we could get a different role entirely
I could ask for contrib tho
If you want yeah until you get like a different role
🤝
I really just want my work to be appreciated, and it already is so
the spreadsheet is overwhelming seeing all the different stuff to fill out, I think I'll just do whatever the new/adjusted things are when we get an update then call it a day after I have a few runs done, how much is recommended? the full 10?
However many you can do is appreciated
I usually just do like 5
alright
I really need to get back on redoing data for my other materials
I'll try and do what I can, I don't need any fancy roles though, I just like game balance and if doing these helps at all then I'm already very happy
Cause I technically have a full spreadsheet but since there’s like better axes and bigger trees I need to redo
oh yeah! travel time, do I split up the going to and then going back? or are both times added up?
Split up the times for going there and back, then add together
perfect, so would I put it in like XX:XX | XX:XX | (XX:XX) ?
i usually just have 3 stopwatch tabs open on google
Mmm I may make a write up on how the spreadsheet works
Resume the travel one on way back
If you want to that would be nice
yeah I'd certainly appreciate it
Ive made good progress on the server
Oh yes
lemme invite u and lucky
I use irl stop watch
fr lol?
I use livesplit
Yeah
It’s a good timer cause I can have like segments
I’ll show it once I boot my pc up
wait thats genius
oh yeah @floral shard I might end up just doing 2 rows of plek on my semi because its honestly a lil boring loading it up with such small logs, so you might not wanna know how much it'll make since it won't be anything crazy I don't think 😂
up to you lol
split
per hour vro
Listen my sleep meds are kicking in my brain
Lemme check
500-700k ish?
Think the max cap is gonna be 600k per hour eventually
maybe 700k idk
Why
Did someone say they’re getting like 1m or summ
Cause I’m still doing testing
cuz someones tryna buy my gramo but idk how good grinding is
cuz if its 1m plus a hour then it isnt worth
Mmmm
Idk from the one run I was able to get in for sui tree I got like 700k from the entire tree and it took me like an hour in total I think?
Again I’d need more data, college is kicking up so I’m not able to grind as much
700k; then it’s a great sui
I will say trying to farm for the spreadsheet is really frustrating with all the invisible collisions, just lost my stuff on the return trip because something invisible bonked my truck somewhere that I couldn't get back up from because invisible wall blocked the way
I have the livesplit ready, I'll just start doing these tests next time we get new resources because I'm not a suiratcal guy
it looks like the ice pine buff didnt go through (still old price on stockmarket).
but the less elevated ice pine spawns were removed. which makes it really bad to farm rn
Yeah fr driving to the top of the hill for a small tree is bad just make less trees spawn there and make the trees bigger fr fr
Because even if you throw the trees down the hill the time it takes to be able to fit a tree in the semi with a million 1 stud branches is just to long
why is Quartz value so low it's a tier 2 ore right?
@torpid ocean what’s the price per stud for sapphire?
its on stock market
oh mb
Might have to try that again
Sapphire? I’ve wanted to try it.
its a lil annoying rn since the lift is busted but still worth imo
Yeah I enjoyed sapphire
Back when I grinded it before it was nerfed
But seems to be at a good state again
did the light etcher gaining a buff vs shadow and suiratcal get implemented yet?
I think it rolls out with the next update
I wouldn’t use the cable car anyways…
Not enough spawns for the semi to be worth it
You can get all the sapphire with a sellner and a trailer
And bring it back faster with the lift
Thats one of the materials I do actually use a sellner for
semi is only worth it if you server hop ngl
I don't use trailers anymore now since semi is a thing 
ngl all the times I server hopped I never had my semi disappear

only time I've serverhopped was for aurora tools tbh, and I guess heaven tree if switching to a solo server counts
so server hopping w a semi for sapphire is good?
Also thanks for the easy Suiratcal and Shadow tree processor, hopefully it’s good temporary machine until I get the one I paid for.
🙏
Hope it helps
Definitely not as advanced as autounloader loader possessor but it definitely works well for those trees
😭
u can have tomb vro
it's much appreciated here at least
whats up with these crates?
ppl grabbing whole tree
lame
oh nice
its interesting seeing the void grove without the filter
I wonder if it's worth patching welding huge resources to stuff in general. It's fine for something like the huge moai but with resources it seems really easy to just transport full trees, at the very least if there'll be more big lategame trees I think it should be considered
I’m curious what it was.
😭
I dont even wanna share it with how broken it is I sold the sui tree at -9 and I didn't even feel bad
I will tell you forsure
people in chat are talking about clipping through stuff by "flip abusing", I'm assuming that means flipping their vehicle
That sounds strange
I swear if the method results in the lunar staff useless in the void.
I've always found it strange that a limited item has such a specific use in the first place, it's weird that it's so strong
It’ll probably come back for Halloween.
still limited though, I don't like limited stuff being such a big help for year round materials
How broken is the method, like what is the amount you can earn per hour?
I'm assuming its very broken, considering they don't want to talk about it outside of DMs
Shouldn’t be a problem to say how much it makes per hour, expect for it making people try to figure out.
Holy
New servers are fixed already i think
Ahh
to say its fine to publish
whats the benefit of using boxed semi over flatbed for suiratcal? I'm trying the semi for lategame materials again
noo
Darnnnn
lmk when u want tomb tho
I was gonna say
the grove just got a glow up chat
Big
Jak could you check if snow pine really got buffed as announced
it seems to be old price in game
Yeah www forsure im just gonna eat some dinner and i will see if your active in chat if not I can wait till tomorrow or something whenever works for you
I'll never understand how y'all get the semi through these lategame biomes its so tedious and frustrating for me 
last time i took like around an hour of mining session on uranium(80% spent on using fusion coil to heal and 10% on killing mobs), i got 300k out of it
maybe we could get some sort of gear to reduce the poison damage?
or make uranium worth more
said 300k can also be obtained from a single suiratcal, which takes me considerably less time
How does one manage to farm uranium? I have no clue if it’s rare or in that scary poisonous section of the cave
i just used a selner + big cargo(forgot what its called). go mine, go low HP, hold fusion coil for 9 years, kill mobs aggroed on you, rinse and repeat
In that poisonous area?
I struggle to kill the mobs without dying to the fog
yes, you have to use the fusion coil while in the vehicle as well
so you dont die from poison damage
no, regen coil wont save you
id recommend a good weapon as well
i use corrosive etcher
i added sum more details
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