#MOB!!

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stable roost
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TRUE

torpid ocean
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lol

stable roost
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also im glad you like my basement

upbeat monolith
torpid ocean
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not tn

upbeat monolith
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Darn Alr have a good evening !

lime kite
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May i ask why

stable roost
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and also tbh feels weirdly temporary

torpid ocean
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its very silly

stable roost
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yes

lime kite
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I am also silly bleh

floral shard
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sad sakura is not viableSadge

stable roost
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I don’t think it’s really supposed to be

floral shard
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but petalfallcrying

torpid ocean
stable roost
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Well idk lucky got like 5k at some point, I keep forgetting about there being bigger sakura now

floral shard
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Yeah the trees are pretty large but each big tree is around 7k

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And big trees take a decent amount of time to process with weaker set ups

slow kayak
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Do trees just take longer to chop overall, or does it scale up with the number of ramifications?

spark frigate
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low quality bush sneek peek

feral nova
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dam

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Ya'll have tree cutting setups?

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I don't even have a tree setup cursed

lime kite
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with the new chopping mechanic i dont think theyre going to really be neccesary

floral shard
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#oak-general message

junior tulipBOT
floral shard
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what are your test islands???

lime kite
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vro doesnt know 💀

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from what ive heard its a place where unreleased trees/forageables were located

floral shard
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Dang new farming method?

lime kite
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unless youre talking about something different gnarp

hard lark
hard lark
stable roost
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the new has won

lime kite
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i finally got a design down for the processor

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its an absolute monstrosity though so it might not be very practical 🙁

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just gotta work on the logic

floral shard
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would love to see a test run of itsteamhappy

robust nimbus
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it would be great if jak didn't nerf anything:(

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games already good rn.

torpid ocean
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next update has buff mostly

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besides kelp

robust nimbus
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are you nerfing flowers?

torpid ocean
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idk

robust nimbus
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bro, for flowers its fair. because you build a machine that jars them quickly

stable roost
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i have to redo my lavender data cause when frumpy said i was "doing it wrong" i deleted the data

robust nimbus
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its not the darn flowers fault 😔

stable roost
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cause im gonna make a note of it

torpid ocean
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ive buffed sapphire and flameslate spawnrates a lil

robust nimbus
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.

stable roost
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alright

torpid ocean
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and snow tree price increase

stable roost
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mk

robust nimbus
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snow tree new meta???

stable roost
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lemme note that down rq

torpid ocean
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and then kelp/lumi kelp nerf

robust nimbus
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yay so no flowers

stable roost
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not yet at least

robust nimbus
stable roost
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mk cool got it all noted down

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so ill know what to test right when the update is out

stable roost
lime kite
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you know what else won in the polls? trol

floral shard
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Alien axe one taps ice pine

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doesn't even need to charge

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was just about to start an ice pine run

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landed right infront of me

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So the semi's back wheels DO NOT MOVE so we can't do icy slopes anymorecrying

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noticed this with newest update

floral shard
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didn't happen previously

ebon egret
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gonna have to revise everything when i play oaklands again

upbeat monolith
ebon egret
left portal
floral shard
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gotcha thanks

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also Alien axe is just better than emberbane now

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full charge cuts plek in one go while ember full charge doesn't

left portal
left portal
robust nimbus
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does anyone know the daylight/night sensor thing?

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what is night and what is day.

rose harness
# torpid ocean ive buffed sapphire and flameslate spawnrates a lil

By how much if I may ask? Right now Sapphire spawns can be boosted simply by server hopping, so having a spawnrate where that is no longer required would be a godsend, as I have been losing quite a lot of ore after a bad server hop (sometimes anything mined after the first server hop doesn't save and gets deleted if you hop again)

upbeat monolith
rose harness
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After Hopping:

upbeat monolith
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Wow that’s crazy…

torpid ocean
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i can check in abit

upbeat monolith
# torpid ocean dont rely on it

I haven’t really. My big issue is I play mobile . Like being able to hop on and off throughout the day . So if I’m out farming and have to hop off it’s scary to load back in haha

floral shard
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Oaklands moment

torpid ocean
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average streaming enabled experience

ivory vale
floral shard
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Wowie big changes

limpid tundra
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ice pine now seems op?

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i could be wrong tho

floral shard
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Jak, after the secret friday's been solved will you update the prices of the new mats?

torpid ocean
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yea some of them will need balancing likely

feral nova
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Are Void Crystals the new meta

torpid ocean
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might need to be nerfed, but they are hard to get to

floral shard
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Notes for Snow Tree
Travel Times
4.33
3.83(Could be faster on the way back)
11k per min high ratesteamhappy

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end result^

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strategy I basically only took the lower half and not the spiky parts

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if spiky part had somewhat large branches I took those too

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gonna do another

torpid ocean
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im gonna remove them spawning on glacier

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only in mountains

feral nova
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How did you

floral shard
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grabby

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complete accident

torpid ocean
floral shard
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so ice pine no spawn on ice?

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cause I'm not at the glaciers

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I'm at the main island portion

stable roost
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if its on ice its a no no i think

torpid ocean
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no it spawns on ice just not the glaciers or that one lower area

stable roost
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oh

floral shard
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can you send a pic of the general area?

torpid ocean
stable roost
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oh lord

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they spawn a ton on the area you crossed out

torpid ocean
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only 5 spawned on the glaciers lol

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but the other area alot spawned and its too ez

stable roost
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by glaciers you mean the ice path?

torpid ocean
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yes

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the part on right

stable roost
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yeah they spawna ton on the left

torpid ocean
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ya

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if you guys want to test balancing for void crystal and the trees in void once you figure that stuff out that would be epic 👍

floral shard
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where da trrees

torpid ocean
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I think the trees are most likely fine but idk abt the void crystal

floral shard
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I haven't figured out the entrance to void

torpid ocean
floral shard
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gotcha

torpid ocean
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they'll spawn up here tho

stable roost
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ok so we'll basically just have to go up higher for them

floral shard
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fusion coil on ice is gonna make me crash out

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I'm gonna cry

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this spot fine?

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its right next to the station

stable roost
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i think thats one of the bad spots

floral shard
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what about this one

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istg if you make us climb to the observatory to harvest ice trees...

stable roost
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its gotta be hard to get bruh

floral shard
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cosmic the ice is horrible now

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we can't go up ice ramps without fusion

stable roost
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yeah

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with it spawning near the bottom in high amounts that just makes it easy

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also im not really needing fusion coil on the ice

floral shard
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seems strong: #oak-general message

junior tulipBOT
stable roost
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Yeah I think no matter where the ice trees are, it should still be fine

floral shard
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also Jak new mats where do they fit in with money per min

stable roost
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I imagine the void crystals being end game cause they’re a bit of a pain to get

floral shard
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Who designed this76starsineyes

stable roost
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Anyway once I take my long nap cause I lowkey didn’t sleep last night, I’ll get some data that includes getting the entire ice trees and see how much worse that is from just taking the base of it

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Cause a lot of people just kinda take the whole tree

floral shard
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Heavnely tree being 17k per min is crazy

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I love oaklands

stable roost
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Brother it getting nerfed

floral shard
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1.25

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makes the rate 15k per min

floral shard
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Without Light Etcher Btw so the max rate is prolly higher

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huh void crystals only being 3 alien pick hitscursed

floral shard
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white darkling is evil

lime kite
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who is vro talking to

floral shard
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its soo cool

torpid ocean
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👀

floral shard
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???

torpid ocean
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well not reallyy

floral shard
torpid ocean
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yea

stable roost
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I rise

floral shard
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@torpid ocean are you more curious about void crystals and trees rn or magmite/flameslate

torpid ocean
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void stuff

feral nova
floral shard
feral nova
floral shard
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I give up; failed twice with the semi alrdy😭

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thats it for me today

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but either way took me 17 min to fill a semi of shadow tree and around 9 min one way to the area

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failed on the way back

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used magma entrance

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semi full of most mats is around 1,000 studs for reference

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if theres a route that does not involve me cliff diving that would be much appreciated

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#oak-general message

junior tulipBOT
floral shard
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took them an hour

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And also are the invisible ramps intentional?

stable roost
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blawg im LOST

nimble jasper
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Please make the darklings with the droppable tools either slower like the other tool wielding ones or make them not one shot please

limpid tundra
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what’s meta rn

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ice pine?

torpid ocean
floral shard
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#oak-media message

junior tulipBOT
floral shard
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So this layer gets put up again after a while

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Requires 2 large bombs

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Below first layer of void rock

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Doesn’t have texture for sum reason

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After a while is around an hour

feral nova
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#oak-questions message

junior tulipBOT
feral nova
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Is this real? You can actually get 7mill from a big log?

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Cause if it is, I'm rebuilding the Sequoia cutter

floral shard
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Looks like half a sequoia right

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So how much is a full sequoia

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In units

feral nova
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Sequoia is around 9k units full

floral shard
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4.5k times whatever the stud price is

feral nova
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40500000

floral shard
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Thats still absurdcursed

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@torpid ocean can we get the mat values of the new things for science reasons

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Please

feral nova
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is that real?

floral shard
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It’s prolly a 4th of a sequoia or smth but defo above 5 mil

feral nova
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Dang

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About to go farm like 10 of these and trade it for a gramophone frfr

limpid tundra
torpid ocean
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X 1.25

floral shard
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thankspepeiosredheart also new mats are not affected by stocks right?

rose harness
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Jak was Boomite buffed? its stock price is higher than its presumed base price. (168.3 currently vs 165 base)

floral shard
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Flamslate + Magmite 15k per mincursed

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used a potion but even accounting for that its 14k

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high rate btw

floral shard
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just fixed em

floral shard
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Magmite only is worse than flameslate + magmite now

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10k vs 15k

stable roost
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Eek

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Guess the spawn rate was the problem

arctic flare
floral shard
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You have shadow etcher?

floral shard
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Did a void crystal run with just a sellner and got 10k per min; got lucky and found a 2 crystal on the initial downward descent; MM entrance

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gonna do a run with sellner plus 3 large crates now

upbeat monolith
limpid tundra
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what’s bette shadow or the big one

floral shard
floral shard
floral shard
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ngl void crystals feel very luck based since a 3 node basically makes a run half finished

stable roost
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Mmm yeah they do appear quite sporadicly

high idol
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@torpid ocean will you sign a tomb good sir for my collection

upbeat monolith
stable roost
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I was able to do a semi run and I got like around what lucky got

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I think I got like a bit more but still

floral shard
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#oak-media message

junior tulipBOT
floral shard
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so shadow > magma per stud right?

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and shadow etcher 1-2 taps the trees and shadow is around 5x larger than any magma

floral shard
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#oak-general message

junior tulipBOT
feral nova
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HMMM

limpid tundra
floral shard
limpid tundra
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oh mb bro

torpid ocean
floral shard
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Imma do a run tmrw since I just got a shadow etcher

floral shard
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tried doing a shadow run then the server got shut downcrying

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at least I got the route down

floral shard
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14.5k per min for shadow

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again similar to blue pine if you had a reallly good bandsaw set up for it; it would be broken

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whats the spawn rate for great shadow trees btw since I only found 1 in the initial cutting

floral shard
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#oak-general message

junior tulipBOT
floral shard
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Should smth like this be considered when balance testing?

torpid ocean
floral shard
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How new?

torpid ocean
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last night

floral shard
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Yes

torpid ocean
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Like 10 hours ago

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k

torpid ocean
floral shard
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No normal rate

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I would have no clue what optimizes would be

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It wouldn’t be 0.5 at least

torpid ocean
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mm ok

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Could you maybe try to swap the travel time with going thru magma entrance just to see what that is

floral shard
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magma is so much worse but sure I can time that

torpid ocean
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Because whenever I release river revamp the mushroom entrance will have like 4-6 extra minutes probably

floral shard
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couple problems with magma when bringing out shadow trees

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I think I can only do magma with a boxed semi in this case

high idol
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We just think better thats why we make more😭

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But throw in the nerfs will ya

floral shard
limpid tundra
high idol
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Yes

limpid tundra
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ya selling it?

floral shard
high idol
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Well its just like right when the people are happy some people feel the need to go tell the devs😭

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Like let the people have darn fun

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No wonder people sit in silence with their methods and make everyone suffer not telling them sad...

high idol
lime kite
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and yet some people get mad when we gatekeep things 😂

high idol
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I was helping the people thats what my job is

lime kite
high idol
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Yeah well darn the shadow trees are nerfed now i swear they are tiny and people are saying 200k a semi load

lime kite
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😭

high idol
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Like bruhhhh they want us to farm damn magma wood why is that always the bottom standard

lime kite
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sapphire used to be the top grinded for awhile

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but it died for some reason

high idol
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Till magma took over again

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Its always been magma

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I have a growing hatred for that place lol

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Well we can only hope now the fate is in jaks hands

lime kite
high idol
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Im not sure so im gonna finish a test run really packing the semi takes longer to get now too but if it still pays the same thats fine

high idol
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Tested and it was indeed nerfed by like half

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Even with professional stacking skills and 0 errors the speed is no where near what it was 300k for a stacked semi was 650k before🥀

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And it took longer to get

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So much sadness

high idol
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Ice pine is probably the move now😭

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Idek anymore🤧

limpid tundra
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it’s been nerfed already?????

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shadow trees

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@torpid ocean have u nerfed shadow again ?

high idol
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Everyone's saying different things i actually have no clue then idk why i would only get 300k tho from a semi when its usually 650k i understand branch sizes can effect the price because its in studs but all the trees seemed small like all of them yesterday 2 big trees filled the semi completely today I had to chop like 5 to fill the semi

torpid ocean
torpid ocean
high idol
torpid ocean
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yea ill post i forgot

high idol
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Ahh ok

limpid tundra
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so it’s been nerfed? i’m a bit slow

torpid ocean
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its on the stock market now tho

high idol
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Oh niceeee

torpid ocean
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and the other new stuff

high idol
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W jak

torpid ocean
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it took me like 20 mintues to find where the script was for stock market lmao

stable roost
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God

torpid ocean
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(im just dumb oaklands scripts are organized well)

stable roost
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It’s ok jak we know

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are there any plans to make light etcher better than the shadow etcher? it's considerably harder to get than the shadow etcher but seems to be a lot more niche

torpid ocean
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main use would be heavenly trees

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that's fair, but it doesn't really seem worth it at all right now, though I haven't found any heaven trees yet. I guess I just hoped it'd at least also be good against void grove trees as well so it'd be a sorta optional upgrade

high idol
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Only every Friday tho so you cant really farm those efficiently... I feel like the light one should have been easier to get the shadows more useful imo to late now tho ig

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if it means anything I was very disappointed to have grinded for so long only for it to be worse than the one I got much earlier, but I can understand if it's just for flex and maybe it'll be useful on fridays, still haven't been able to test it on heaven trees so I can't say for sure if its that useful

high idol
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I heard it 1 shots them so thats very useful but for the rarity and the chance you will even see a heavenly tree its kinda strange how hard it is to get

torpid ocean
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maybe ill add that to it

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shadow and suiractal buff would be perfect, and 5% better is good to hear

torpid ocean
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ill add that rn, will be released with next upd

safe badge
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I just say worse since shadow and suiratcal are much more consistent

torpid ocean
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or patch

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whatever

safe badge
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alright, thank you!

high idol
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Yeah that would make so much sense its rare and hard to get having it do both features is a W

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Then its worth grinding for

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are the values for Shadow and Suiratcal reasonable enough for me to go back to grinding other resources from time to time? I love the new stuff but it kinda felt like all other resources became worthless to grind

stable roost
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I will do runs later this evening to see

high idol
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A stud thats huge

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I believe it wont go lower

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big trees are really easy and fast to stack so it makes sense

torpid ocean
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data is appreciated

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I can't time trips because I go afk a lot but I can let you know how much a flatbed semi of either of them would be

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at least neatly stacked and not going off of the bed

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hmm, just going off of the prices on the stock market though I will say Suiratcal seems very high for big tree/logs, but again I haven't tested them so I can't say for sure. Higher price per stud than something like magma trees which has small logs that take longer to stack and process looks wrong though

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it is harder to get to it with the enemies so I'm not saying for sure that it's wrong though, but it's easier to stack on a truck

floral shard
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ngl I need to test suiratcal with just a sellner or smth

floral shard
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whelp that ruined a good run

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floral shard
gusty anchor
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Bring back original boomite and adurite sell prices!!1!1!1!!!

limpid tundra
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so what’s everyone grinding now

high idol
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Idek

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Been struggling all day barely moved in money

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I might just accept the nerf and stick to shadow lol

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I hate the other options even just want and did uranium was like 40 minutes for 175k

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Like bruh what the helly

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I must suck or something cause thats not matching up with how good they say it is

high idol
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Also tried snow trees and they are just too small got a huge semi full and it was only 300k it took me like a hour to load drive back prosses it and sell

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They are worth a good amount per stud but when a branch is only 2 studs it doesn't really work

floral shard
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Also try plek you might like it better

torpid ocean
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jumper said he got 700k/hr shrug

torpid ocean
left spear
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I feel like shadow was overnerfed.

floral shard
torpid ocean
torpid ocean
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uranium is like stupid

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I wanna figure out a different mechanic

left spear
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Is there anyway to know if I’m on a newer server?

torpid ocean
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If you got in a private or solo server you are

floral shard
# torpid ocean I wanna figure out a different mechanic

My idea: Yk those minigames where you have an allotted amount of time to collect x resources or else you fail? Instead of collecting resources, we have to murder goblins, and for each goblin we kill, we get some points. At the end of the time limit, we get some nodes of uranium/greeb based on the score.

Lore wise there's some person that hates goblins for idk killing big reptiles and assigns the player to assassinate various types of goblins around the acid lands. These goblins are spawned in when quests start in specific areas/landmarks are glowy to make it easier for the player to see who they have to murder. The goblins drop some parts of a key(or whatever) that you bring to the person to fix. Key(or whatever) opens a door that, when you pass through it, tps you to a location where the minigame starts.

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the door tp thing is just so the player can't bring a ufo or smth

torpid ocean
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I mean that would be cool as like something to do in the arena but not really a mechanic for grinding uranium

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like I wanna do something in the uranium section of the cave that isnt poison fog

night sage
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Did suiractal get nerfed ?

floral shard
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I can only think of:
Maybe have evolved goblins/skeletons in the uranium area that have evolved due to higher radiation levels? Similar to alien invasion, they drop uranium bits instead of scrap?

Reaction-Based Skill Checks; everytime you try to mine a uranium node in that area theres a series of 4 skill checks, failing one deals 40 dmg to the player. or like any simple skill check in general

lime kite
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make the uranium shoot out radiation when you mine it

high idol
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But shadow wood isnt hard just gotta learn to stack

uranium would be awesome to get a rework or even if you could buy like a health potion to splash yourself every now and then to fill your health to make it abit more fun and less just standing around

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Im not really sure what you could do there....
or what your plans are but it was very rough lol

torpid ocean
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one of em would be just like a health potion

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it would be so cool

lime kite
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potions in oaklands 🗣️ 🗣️

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Add Potion Of Luck For 500 Robux

high idol
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Yeah that would be awesome

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No one really farms fruit anymore either so it would be sick

left spear
high idol
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If your doing it without the box the logs just go the opposite direction to stack them

left spear
high idol
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Yes up abit

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#videos-and-streams message

junior tulipBOT
left spear
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Were shadow trees also given a smaller max size?

high idol
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Yes I belive so

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He confirmed the price nerf but im not sure about size I could be trippin

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From what I can tell they are smaller still good method tbh

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But definitely missed out if you didn't farm within the last few days

left spear
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Luckily I did and used it buy a powerful wood machine.

high idol
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W

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I think void grove is good in its current state tbh, it should still be monitored but I think it's worth its difficulty

safe badge
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okay not resource related but space blaster dealing damage from outside of the enemies detection range seems really cheesy, and the goblin bow and acid staff both misfire often (makes sound, doesn't shoot anything or deal damage while aiming at enemies, even if close)

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also sometimes enemies spawn right ontop of you, which is a huge pain when they throw you into instakill soup

upbeat monolith
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@torpid ocean when will speed coil/ fusion coil give cars speed boost

night sage
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When fusion coil will become an acessory like scooba tank ?

high idol
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Never

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I don't think

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Also wouldn't really work unless you could toggle each individual ability on and off as you'd like

night sage
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It was just a joke

high idol
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Ah I thought you were serious lol

night sage
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But I wish better aim on the space blaster, I cant aim downwards 😭

high idol
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That would be nice☠️

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Very limited forsure its a struggle sometimes

twin thunder
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What's the best way to get a whole suiratcal tree to your plot

upbeat monolith
twin thunder
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Whole suiratcal tree to make profit

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Not for decor or whatever

safe badge
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just do it piece by piece through multiple trips if its not for decor

spark frigate
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or if you have lunar staff you can get entire tree to one of the entrances and chop it up and get it you your base

torpid ocean
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anyone have rates for suiratcal

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server hopping seems to be problem

stable roost
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I can try and squeeze a run in rq before I have to go to class

high idol
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😭😂😂😂

torpid ocean
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uh no

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vro

high idol
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Obviously joking

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It pays very good but server hopping only a few people really do that

torpid ocean
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seems like the few are making a ton

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I hate server hoping vro

high idol
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Some people also have weird glitches and methods they gatekeep

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We cant see the monthly sellers anymore so idk who's doing it but... I know for a fact most of us arnt making a large impact on that 200 something million everyday from it

torpid ocean
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yes I'm trying to figure out what they r doing

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pretty sure ik

high idol
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Ik people server hop until a big tree spawns but I don't understand how they are so efficient with it... I use alot of brain power😭☠️ and its not that crazy

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I dont actually make that much maybe im slow but even if all the players were making what I am the number wouldn't be at 200 million everyday

torpid hatch
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brainpower what is that ?

high idol
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I have exhausted every possible way to try and get those trees faster and better I dont see how you can without exploits

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For the rate that it's at

torpid ocean
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Hoofer hopefully gonna patch what I think it is soon

stable roost
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Urgh I ran out of time to get a run in, I’ll be able to do a few in a few hours when I’m home

limpid tundra
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when i server hop my truck NEVER stays w me

torpid ocean
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that's fine

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I think it's more something else

limpid tundra
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but why doesn’t my truck stay w

torpid ocean
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Idk

upbeat monolith
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Jak when is a fix coming for goblins spawning under map …

limpid tundra
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if i report the server hopping thing woukd j get s computer gnarp

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boooo

high idol
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Maybe people are flinging trees through the map or something

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Idk if that would work

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But I can get a picture of the spot later its just strange how it pushes you up

torpid hatch
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Or kills you instantly

high idol
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No thats when it jams you into the map

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And it says your going 9999 studs

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Thats not what I mean

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This spot literally shoots you straight up

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And without the new invisible barrier they probably were able to get whole trees that way

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Thats how people got the messed up ones

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@torpid ocean I heard a few people have trees like this too.... so the price of the sui tree could just be messed up because they are selling it

I have even seen people in random servers with big parts of the trees that no way could have fit through any entrance

floral shard
high idol
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And being so large thats huge money
sui didn't seem that excellent to me definitely one of the best options but its not as broken as it seems

floral shard
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its only 350k a tree right?

torpid hatch
high idol
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But they take awhile to get

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To cut and prosses

floral shard
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yeah I doubt you can push past 800k an hour

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using legit methods

high idol
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And you can fall lose the tree or die at any point

high idol
floral shard
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yeah tbh I feel like the rates should be higher for some resources

high idol
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People are cheating like 100%

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I play like 8 hours a day some days and theres no way to make that much now even with lost of experience

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Im fast at loading the semi selling.... my machine setups great but theres no way

floral shard
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I wonder if classic joop crate sui might be better

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would be hard to consisteintly tho

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I think the way anchoring works in general is kinda busted for these larger trees, especially when they're worth so much

high idol
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Getting the tree off the island isnt the hard part moving it through all the stupid spikes and annoying enemies is the problem

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They hit you and you fly into the hole and die they hit you into spikes you try and run out with the coil you die

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A tree is in the way and you cant lift the sui tree through them so you put it down and are swarmed by dumb enemies

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Don't get me wrong I like how it is rn but its in no way broken

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People are exploiting making it look to good

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I understand, I just think the anchoring is something worth thinking about now that we have expensive big tree. If it's fine then it's fine, just something to think about

high idol
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Or grab them think outside of the box

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Unfortunately this one tho is the only thing I will always gatekeep😭

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Apologies

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if its using a grabber while driving that ones pretty well known I think, but I'm assuming it isn't

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I don't really see a problem with doing that, maybe how strong it is with the lunar staff? idk, again just stuff to think about

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as far as I care the game is balanced because I don't feel like I have to restrict myself to only one method to make good moolah :)

floral shard
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at least we're getting somehwhat close to that

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until void came along

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Void's a little better, I think it's a good risk reward thingy

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my fave will always be Magma I think, it's just quick and easy for me

floral shard
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I meant initial void

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initial void discouraged me from playing past grinding the two axes

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I just dumped all the money I got from the 2 trips on semis and gave someone the rare blue one I got for free popcorn_cat

high idol
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Lunar staff tho.. can pick up the whole tree

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Most of the time that works too

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The grabber doesn't work for these trees i wouldn't even try

left spear
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So is it better to farm Shadow Trees over Suis?

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Also I feel like the thorns need some kind of tinkering.

torpid ocean
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The dont spawn that big anymore ?

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Pretty sure

high idol
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Yeah I know im saying I think the reason the sui tree is so high on the daily sold materials is because people are selling them that they had saved from before

torpid ocean
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maybe

torpid ocean
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I asked if hoof can patch using grabbers while inside vehicles I think that it will remove some of these exploits

floral shard
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aw that wuld make giant moai a pain

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would

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also join hoof's experment fr fr

torpid ocean
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I will

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I'm going to make what I've always dreamed of

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lol

floral shard
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is this balanced?

torpid ocean
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Don't people usually just chuck on their sellner

floral shard
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it doesn't anchor no?

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was that changed?

torpid ocean
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It should weld

floral shard
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huh ig I'm an oldie

torpid ocean
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I mean when I got one it did

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idk

floral shard
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back in my day it didn;t

left spear
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Can you guys also nerf the thorns while you’re at it, or at least fix their hitboxes.

night sage
torpid ocean
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Why

night sage
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It makes my life easier

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And I dont need to die to the monster so often

torpid ocean
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why don't you just use a vehicle with an actual bed

night sage
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When I tried, it flipped while I was going back

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More than once

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So, I just fly with ufo and moonstaff

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Its safer

torpid ocean
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ya sure but it's not intended and it makes it way too easy

night sage
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Makes sense

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Oh yea, me and my friend discovered today that Plek got op again

left spear
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I’ll still be able to use a staff without a vehicle right?

torpid ocean
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Yes lol

night sage
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Because of the lava exit

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We filled a semi with plek

left spear
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Sounds like it’d cost a lot of bombs though.

torpid ocean
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hm

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what is op

night sage
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In public servers, the lava entrance is always open

torpid ocean
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and you are doing with 2 people so

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that changes things

left spear
night sage
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But we took a long time sawing it

torpid ocean
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I mean that's fine since you doing with 2 people

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get ya money

left spear
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I getting through the void to another entrance sounds like agony.

torpid ocean
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no the plek cave and lava cave are connected above the void

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thru the void entrance

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there is like a drop on the plek side tho

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so you can't drive up there

limpid tundra
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so is sutical still meta?

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or the best

left spear
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Sounds like it.

limpid tundra
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or is plek better

night sage
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Suiractal is better(for now)

torpid ocean
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if you are cheesing it with a moon staff and UFO suiratcal is probably best

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but that's gonna be fixed

limpid tundra
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i need to learn gnarp

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someone teach me Flabbergasted

torpid ocean
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you just grab the tree and get in

limpid tundra
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won’t the ufo like fly down?

torpid ocean
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wdym

night sage
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Ufo never fly down

limpid tundra
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nvm

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don’t u still have to chop up the tree to

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tho

torpid ocean
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I think people just take the whole thing

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maybe cut it up once they out of the grove idk

floral shard
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prolly cut in void entrance area

limpid tundra
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for it to spawn

floral shard
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ehh its just a 7 min spawn time

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timed it myself

night sage
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It seems that the more people the faster

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I always farm in group

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And when I'm alone, it takes some time

limpid tundra
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idk how that’s like more quicker then just taking it to where u load it up n go back

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just safer i guess?

night sage
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I like to put in in the non upgraded semi, because the suiractal is big and gets stuck when I try to get it out of the cave

torpid ocean
limpid tundra
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ya i don’t understand this ufo 😭im guessing u don’t go straight over the void do ya?

torpid ocean
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no lol

limpid tundra
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yeah i give up lol my ufo goes flying when going up a slope 💀

floral shard
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Also in the new experiment, I was yk grinding the early game and noticed that spruce saplings required a different tier compared to the larger tree type for some reason

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and MM is amazing for mid gamesteamhappy

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I'm curious about the intended way to farm some materials, like, are we expected to use the semi for stuff like Suiratcal and Magma or just the easier stuff to get to? Because I've been having lots of trouble trying to get to the middle island with the semi, I much prefer just using a sellner and getting small amounts at a time

high idol
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Your just making yourself struggle more

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Most materials should be grinded with a semi even if it has a box or not

you just make way more some exceptions obviously but not many

floral shard
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# high idol Your just making yourself struggle more

am I though? I'm not trying to climb any leaderboards, I want to use the semi but more often than not I find myself struggling to make a turn for a minute or two, or having all my logs fall off after I get out to kill an enemy that just spawned, it's not enjoyable for me to use a semi for lots of these harder materials

stable roost
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I say, there isn’t really a “wrong” way to grind, just do what’s most comfortable and easy for you

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Sure if you’re trying to get rich quick you can be grinding incorrectly, but otherwise just depends on play style

high idol
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^ yeah if you dont actually care about getting the most money you can it doesn't matter games are all about fun at the end of the day

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thats fair, I guess I'm just wondering what the devs expected players to grind these with so I can better understand if it feels good balance wise

high idol
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I only said that because personally I don't have fun if im making 100k a sale or something

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Makes me get off😂

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Only thing I can say tho is practice makes perfect

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I made 170k off of 6 logs with a sellner just now

high idol
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You will eventually get better at driving the semi

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I really like the semi for something like Plek

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and heaven trees especially

floral shard
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Wdym? Oh, the bomb walls yeah those suck, but with refined scuba gear you can just enter through the waterfall

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all the paths are really wide in my experience except the bomb walls I hate the bomb walls

high idol
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Yes but the actual cave entrance is tiny

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You cant fit a semi

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Like the path right at the lumite shop

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well thats not the only enterance

high idol
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I dont farm plek so i really dont know

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Thats one of the things I have farmed like 4 times

floral shard
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I've tried others it doesn't work out consisteintly

high idol
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Used to be great then they changed the plek cave

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I have the opposite experience, old plek cave I got stuck all the time

high idol
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😂😭

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well I WAS gonna go get some Plek to see if anythings changed

floral shard
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I wish my heavenly spawns were that easy😭

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so yeah the leftmost entrance is easy for the semi, didn't have any trouble getting through the one near the shop either, and the rightmost one is definitely big enough I'm not even gonna test it

floral shard
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it's not boxed because I stack them sideways, I don't think boxed would even change anything on the left and right

floral shard
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imagine leaving there with it stacked sideways lol

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I.. have?

floral shard
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whelp i dunno how you do it

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how much per load

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I don't remember I'll tell you when I finish up later

floral shard
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gotcha thanks

oak stone
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What is Ice pine please?

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am i going mad?

torpid ocean
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snow tree

high idol
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Like snow

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Yeah tons of it above the giant hill in snow biome

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But I honestly wouldn't recommend grinding that...

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I tried it i was very disappointed

floral shard
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too used to shadow smh

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its quick and easy when the lift WORKS

high idol
floral shard
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its 180k a semi load its fineee

high idol
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Also ontop of that is annoying to load the vehicles tiny little branches

high idol
floral shard
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just don't bring the branches

high idol
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I hope your joking

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bro I got 160k off of suiratcal with a sellner what are you doing in the void

high idol
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Not using a sellner

floral shard
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icepine

high idol
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.. the semi is a must

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semi is a must if you're a sweaty sweat :)

floral shard
oak stone
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Thanks didnt know it was the snow one - Hate lift anyway i never use it haha

heady field
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so whats the latest progression regardless balancing

high idol
floral shard
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cause its unbalanced😭

high idol
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So me saying I wouldn't recommend snow trees aint wrong

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☠️

oak stone
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if snow pine is that bad! perfect! it wont get nerfed if i do a video

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❤️ finally one that wont be lol

high idol
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^

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Yeah thats a positive

floral shard
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at least it wasn't my intention

high idol
high idol
torpid ocean
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pins

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varies per resource

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but like 10K / min

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more/less depending on difficulty

high idol
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But balancing would be so hard because every method is different speeds

floral shard
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we time it

high idol
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Yes but that doesn't account for weird methods and things people do

floral shard
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we have a very nice spreadsheet

high idol
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To increase speeds

floral shard
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we need more ppl😭

heady field
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@torpid ocean wdym by eatign fruits give buffs

high idol
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Idk bruh the way of testing materials has to change

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Jak, are sellners valid for testing the whole 10k per minute thing or nah? we talked about it earlier but I just wanna get dev confirmation that I can contribute to this thread with my sellner because I am bad at driving the semi

heady field
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semi is giant truck right?

high idol
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Only some materials... not using a semi for some would just throw the number off by way to much

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yeah

high idol
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Causing the thing to get buffed for the people who use the semi

heady field
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i dont even have semi on my giant 400 hours plot...

high idol
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Because i believe stuff is tested with the best equipment

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That would be the semi

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cuz if not I won't even bother y'know?

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I use my sellner a lot

high idol
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Probably yeah I'm not sure what jaks looking for he should answer tho

stable roost
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Yeah sellner is fine

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I do runs with both semi and sellner just to compare so

high idol
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W

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alright, I'll try to gather some data with my runs later. I'm really not good for times when it comes to semi usage unless it's easy materials because I always take breaks 😭

floral shard
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do you have a spreadsheet yet?

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I don't, no

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Sounds useful though if I'm gonna start doing some testing

floral shard
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#1337177575612612649 message

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dope

floral shard
stable roost
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Yeah that’s my display name

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I just have it set to cosmic in the discord server

floral shard
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ohhh

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a is a naughty word you should change it to lmbo troll3d
how do I make a copy? I've never actually used any spreadsheets or google docs before, and if I have I clearly forgot LOL

floral shard
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theres somewhere in this thread where cosmic explains how to use it

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I see in the pinned there was a time where they specifically wanted tests on lategame materials, is there anything specific that would be good data?

high idol
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Yeah idk im a dummy those spreadsheets make 0 sense to me😭

torpid ocean
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it makes it easier for me to adjust material values and figure out what rates will be

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and have separate travel / farming /processing time can be helpful too

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the travel time is gonna be very useful when I do river update since a bunch of stuff will need to be buffed due to increased travel time

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I can just add an additional few minutes (or however much longer it takes) and figure how much stuff needs to be buffed

high idol
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Fair enough

floral shard
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like test first

torpid ocean
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there will be lot of testing for it yea

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I'm gonna try and get it done even if fishing isn't ready yet

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More time to tesst

stable roost
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Yes

high idol
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Fishing gonna be so sigma

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🤝

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More for jak to balance 😭 poor jak

stable roost
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Eh he’s got like 2 other people helping him he’ll be fine

high idol
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Oh I thought he was the only one doing the balancing

stable roost
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No

torpid ocean
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I would loveee more than 2 other ppl

high idol
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Well w then

torpid ocean
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lucky and cosmic do way more than me

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in terms of testing

stable roost
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LMAO yeah

high idol
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Where's there supporter roles???

stable roost
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Like contributer?

high idol
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😂

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Yeah

stable roost
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Idk I didn’t think too much about it tbh

floral shard
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I thought it was discontinued

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like giving it out

stable roost
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Nnnno I don’t think so

high idol
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Idk i have seen yall helping here for like months I think yall deserve it but idk how that works and it aint my call

stable roost
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Think it’s just cause nobody really “contributes” I suppose

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Think Jak would have to ask like one of the CMs to give the role

high idol
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Yeah not sure how the role works

torpid ocean
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I was gonna ask if we could get a different role entirely

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I could ask for contrib tho

stable roost
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If you want yeah until you get like a different role

high idol
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🤝

stable roost
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I really just want my work to be appreciated, and it already is so

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the spreadsheet is overwhelming seeing all the different stuff to fill out, I think I'll just do whatever the new/adjusted things are when we get an update then call it a day after I have a few runs done, how much is recommended? the full 10?

torpid ocean
stable roost
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I usually just do like 5

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alright

stable roost
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I really need to get back on redoing data for my other materials

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I'll try and do what I can, I don't need any fancy roles though, I just like game balance and if doing these helps at all then I'm already very happy

stable roost
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Cause I technically have a full spreadsheet but since there’s like better axes and bigger trees I need to redo

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oh yeah! travel time, do I split up the going to and then going back? or are both times added up?

stable roost
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Split up the times for going there and back, then add together

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perfect, so would I put it in like XX:XX | XX:XX | (XX:XX) ?

torpid ocean
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i usually just have 3 stopwatch tabs open on google

stable roost
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Mmm I may make a write up on how the spreadsheet works

torpid ocean
torpid ocean
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yeah I'd certainly appreciate it

torpid ocean
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Ive made good progress on the server

stable roost
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Oh yes

torpid ocean
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lemme invite u and lucky

floral shard
torpid ocean
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fr lol?

stable roost
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I use livesplit

floral shard
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yeahh more fun

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livesplit for speed runs right

stable roost
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Yeah

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It’s a good timer cause I can have like segments

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I’ll show it once I boot my pc up

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wait thats genius

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oh yeah @floral shard I might end up just doing 2 rows of plek on my semi because its honestly a lil boring loading it up with such small logs, so you might not wanna know how much it'll make since it won't be anything crazy I don't think 😂

floral shard
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up to you lol

stable roost
floral shard
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I'm pink!!!

stable roost
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OH

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PINK

digital aurora
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whats grinding per hour at rn

stable roost
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Huh

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Idk like 10-15k?

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Depends on material and other stuff

digital aurora
stable roost
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Listen my sleep meds are kicking in my brain

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Lemme check

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500-700k ish?

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Think the max cap is gonna be 600k per hour eventually

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maybe 700k idk

digital aurora
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are you SURE?

stable roost
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Why

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Did someone say they’re getting like 1m or summ

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Cause I’m still doing testing

digital aurora
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cuz someones tryna buy my gramo but idk how good grinding is

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cuz if its 1m plus a hour then it isnt worth

stable roost
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Mmmm

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Idk from the one run I was able to get in for sui tree I got like 700k from the entire tree and it took me like an hour in total I think?

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Again I’d need more data, college is kicking up so I’m not able to grind as much

floral shard
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I will say trying to farm for the spreadsheet is really frustrating with all the invisible collisions, just lost my stuff on the return trip because something invisible bonked my truck somewhere that I couldn't get back up from because invisible wall blocked the way

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I have the livesplit ready, I'll just start doing these tests next time we get new resources because I'm not a suiratcal guy

shrewd glen
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it looks like the ice pine buff didnt go through (still old price on stockmarket).

but the less elevated ice pine spawns were removed. which makes it really bad to farm rn

high idol
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Yeah fr driving to the top of the hill for a small tree is bad just make less trees spawn there and make the trees bigger fr fr

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Because even if you throw the trees down the hill the time it takes to be able to fit a tree in the semi with a million 1 stud branches is just to long

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why is Quartz value so low it's a tier 2 ore right?

limpid tundra
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@torpid ocean what’s the price per stud for sapphire?

high idol
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Ohhh

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Blessed again

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I forgot about ol faithful

limpid tundra
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oh mb

high idol
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Might have to try that again

left spear
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Sapphire? I’ve wanted to try it.

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its a lil annoying rn since the lift is busted but still worth imo

high idol
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Yeah I enjoyed sapphire

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Back when I grinded it before it was nerfed

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But seems to be at a good state again

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did the light etcher gaining a buff vs shadow and suiratcal get implemented yet?

high idol
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I think it rolls out with the next update

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they've done a few patches but I suppose those aren't full on updates

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fair enough

left spear
high idol
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Not enough spawns for the semi to be worth it

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You can get all the sapphire with a sellner and a trailer

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And bring it back faster with the lift

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Thats one of the materials I do actually use a sellner for

hard lark
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I don't use trailers anymore now since semi is a thing cat_thumbsup

high idol
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Yeah till it despawns

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😭

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Super rare but the time i brought a semi it disappeared

hard lark
high idol
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Damn that was probably just super bad luck then

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Maybe i will try it again

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only time I've serverhopped was for aurora tools tbh, and I guess heaven tree if switching to a solo server counts

limpid tundra
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so server hopping w a semi for sapphire is good?

high idol
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Im guessing its very good

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If your semi stays your set you can fit so much

left spear
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Also thanks for the easy Suiratcal and Shadow tree processor, hopefully it’s good temporary machine until I get the one I paid for.

high idol
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🙏

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Hope it helps

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Definitely not as advanced as autounloader loader possessor but it definitely works well for those trees

high idol
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😭

torpid ocean
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u can have tomb vro

high idol
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Hahahha smart man I will dm you

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Hopefully I dont get hated for leaking this😭😂

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it's much appreciated here at least

safe badge
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whats up with these crates?

torpid ocean
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ppl grabbing whole tree

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weird

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wonder why that'd be better than just putting it in the vehicle

torpid ocean
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faster

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easier

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cheesier

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lame

torpid ocean
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revolutionary update

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coming soon

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to an oaklands near you

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oh nice

torpid ocean
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im gonna add some stalagtites

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that will look cool

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its interesting seeing the void grove without the filter

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I wonder if it's worth patching welding huge resources to stuff in general. It's fine for something like the huge moai but with resources it seems really easy to just transport full trees, at the very least if there'll be more big lategame trees I think it should be considered

left spear
high idol
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😭

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I dont even wanna share it with how broken it is I sold the sui tree at -9 and I didn't even feel bad

left spear
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-9?

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Hopefully I get to find out what it is after it’s patched.

high idol
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I will tell you forsure

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people in chat are talking about clipping through stuff by "flip abusing", I'm assuming that means flipping their vehicle

high idol
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That sounds strange

left spear
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I swear if the method results in the lunar staff useless in the void.

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I've always found it strange that a limited item has such a specific use in the first place, it's weird that it's so strong

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It’ll probably come back for Halloween.

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still limited though, I don't like limited stuff being such a big help for year round materials

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How broken is the method, like what is the amount you can earn per hour?

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I'm assuming its very broken, considering they don't want to talk about it outside of DMs

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Shouldn’t be a problem to say how much it makes per hour, expect for it making people try to figure out.

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20k per min

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Holy

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New servers are fixed already i think

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no

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not yet

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but soon prob

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im waiting for hoofer

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Ahh

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to say its fine to publish

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Would that be considered game breaking?

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Prob not

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whats the benefit of using boxed semi over flatbed for suiratcal? I'm trying the semi for lategame materials again

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Darnnnn

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lmk when u want tomb tho

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I was gonna say

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the grove just got a glow up chat

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Big

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Jak could you check if snow pine really got buffed as announced

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it seems to be old price in game

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I'll never understand how y'all get the semi through these lategame biomes its so tedious and frustrating for me Sadge

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With the best method

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20

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last time i took like around an hour of mining session on uranium(80% spent on using fusion coil to heal and 10% on killing mobs), i got 300k out of it

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maybe we could get some sort of gear to reduce the poison damage?

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or make uranium worth more

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What exactly was done to the void?

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I’m not sure what the glowup is meant to be.

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yes, you have to use the fusion coil while in the vehicle as well

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so you dont die from poison damage

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no, regen coil wont save you

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id recommend a good weapon as well

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i use corrosive etcher

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Ah

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Jak, may i know what kind of issues does the grabber vehicle combo usually bring

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other than being able to carry trees on the go ofc