MOB!!

[tacit mountain]

as always

[upbeat monolith]

I haven’t really played much with logic, I figured out some dispensers and collision stuff but haven’t put enough time into that

[coral mantle]

what would i get on average if it was like +20%?

is what im looking for

its max price on average how much id get per piece not per stud

[upbeat monolith]

@stable roost has the optimized data I believe

[coral mantle]

oki

[stable roost]

Hur

One sec

I was only getting like 5.5k/min for optimized

[coral mantle]

whats the average doe

[stable roost]

like 4.3k

could prolly be higher but i was using different numbers of trailers

sapphire spawn rate isnt very good

anyway im gonna actually get magmite data now since i didnt do that yestersay

[stable roost]

urgh the semi is impossible to use for magmite it just never wants to turn

[floral shard]

yeah it sucks

[stable roost]

im just gonna do the classic sellner and 1 trailer, i tried 2 but then one of the trailers fell over

[upbeat monolith]

We need an extended bed sellner lol

[lilac raptor]

Ive got some advice, move adurite back, or give it a better location, they moved it cause some players couldn't get to it, but they put it in a literal impossible place to farm efficiently, making it worthless

[lime kite]

just grind something else atp 🥀

[torpid ocean]

ppl are still getting good rates

[lilac raptor]

there was nothing wrong with the last spot, i dont wanna fish every single piece out of lava, i get moving it to make it eaier for some, but putting it above lava?

[lilac raptor]

also the fact i never see it even top 10 on the leader board anymore, kinda shows the change made it alot worse to farm

[upbeat monolith]

I’m fine with the new area but it would be nice it the veins and node were above the land masses

[lilac raptor]

thats my biggest complaint, its so annoying to have to shove the camera into lava to find where stuff falls, and majoritiy of players dont have an obsidian belt, so not sure how this makes it more accessable

[lilac raptor]

went from top 5 selling, to this, like come on

[upbeat monolith]

Once the breakable walls are fixed it will probably drop a lot more

[coral mantle]

So average for uranium is 4.3k? What about greeb?

[coral mantle]

Do you know how to figure it out with a semi?

[floral shard]

uranium rn is just a worse magmite and greeb rn is just a worse boomite in terms of money per min

this is due to grimestone volume decreasing by 40% from processing

[coral mantle]

is that a bug

[floral shard]

zero clue but its applying to a couple rocks rn

[coral mantle]

why does the volume matter

[floral shard]

this is list

[coral mantle]

i thought it would translate from big pieces

[floral shard]

volume = stud?

less stud = less money

[coral mantle]

oh

well yea i meant like if you have a huge piece of uranium it should be a huge pieec of uranim forged or refined

[floral shard]

in rock form the volume bigger

refined volume smaller

[coral mantle]

and forged even smaller

[floral shard]

nah for some reason only decrease after refine

forge stay same as refined

[coral mantle]

im sure thats prob a bug

[stable roost]

Grind sapphire with a semi

That’s how

[coral mantle]

i just need the average price bro

[stable roost]

About the same thing, 4.1k

[coral mantle]

not for sapphire

sapphire is 2300

[upbeat monolith]

Does it have to do with items clipping through the machines I have a video somewhere lemme try to find it

[floral shard]

nope I tested with just one rock at the time

its just decrease the volume for certain rocks

[stable roost]

It’s a fun little treat

[upbeat monolith]

Oh ok, is there a fix coming for pieces clipping through machines if they are too small?

[floral shard]

no clue also congrats on number 1 trader

how many reps?

[upbeat monolith]

Ty! 710 atm

[upbeat monolith]

So I’ve had it happen for sure with greeb and uranium, as soon as raw enter refinery they drop underneath it refined

[lilac raptor]

Breakable walls?

[stable roost]

Yeah you usually need bombs to access the magma caves but the walls are broken rn for some reason

[stable roost]

@torpid ocean did 1 run with magmite plus flameslate and both together gave me like a 6-7k optimized rate

i only did 1 trailer tho but im gonna try and do 2 trailers, semi is near impossible to control in its current state so im just waiting for that to get fixed

uhhh if you want i can do a run with JUST magmite cause im not sure if you'd want to buff both magmite and flameslate cause it seems you want people to be grabbing both flameslate and magmite when they mine

[torpid ocean]

ya you should grind both

[stable roost]

ok ill just keep doing what im doing then

[floral shard]

Magmites fine run imo

[stable roost]

what you could do is buff flameslate a bit maybe

[floral shard]

I think it’s better to only grind marmite and serverhop

Ew spell check

[torpid ocean]

7k a min aint very good for something thats supposed to be end game

[stable roost]

mhm

[floral shard]

I’m getting 9k

[torpid ocean]

mm

[stable roost]

are you using semi

or like

[floral shard]

Yeah

[stable roost]

oh

[floral shard]

Via the pa TV I showed

[stable roost]

that would do it

[floral shard]

Path

[stable roost]

ehhh i could try and use semi again

cause that would give better results

[floral shard]

Tbh is magmite hard? I just find it tedious

[stable roost]

nah not really

tedious yes

i mean if you use fire potion only issue is it takes awhile to mine the nodes

theyre quite tough

[floral shard]

Yeah

[stable roost]

hmmmm

ok heres what i say

@torpid ocean you could probably give flameslate a small buff since it seems magmite is fine ish on its own

im gonna try and get a semi run with both

[stable roost]

@floral shard where do you even park your semi so stuff stays heated

nvm figured out a crude way to get my semi in my usual spot

[stable roost]

alright, got my semi run in, optimized run is like 8-9k

i think best bet is to give flameslate a buff

[upbeat monolith]

I feel mag should get a higher buff cause if people want to spent the time to sorta down in the lava it should pay off

[stable roost]

well with semi i grabbed both and it gave about the same rate as magmite (at least with lucky's data)

he got 9k with just magmite, i got about 8-9k with both magmite and flameslate

so i mean if jak wants it to where people should grab both, flameslate buff is the way to go

given i dont server hop at all

[stable roost]

@torpid ocean i was just thinking, one thing you could buff more is lumite, i was only able to get like 7-8k for it

oh wait you wanted it to be like 8-9k nvm

[upbeat monolith]

But is lumite ment to be more focused for credz and opening up room for other cash meta ?

[floral shard]

Jak are you able to view the mat leader board?

[stable roost]

think the api for that is broken rn

cause this is what it looks like in game rn

[floral shard]

oh you think that's inaccurate?

[stable roost]

uhhh idk

i just know the api is really out of wack rn

[torpid ocean]

yea I wouldn't trust api rn

pretty sure it's broken

luck is like redoing it all

[torpid ocean]

Optimized ?

could buff it up 1k /min

maybe 2

[stable roost]

ye

[floral shard]

Rate the processing set-up🤑

[floral shard]

my magmite spread sheet is broken for sum reason

doesn't properly calculate high rate vs low rate

[stable roost]

how so

ohh wait i see the issue

the hell does it mean by divide, ill see if i can fix it rq

mm nvm i see the problem

[stable roost]

alright so to fix it, put current sell price as $1 for columns not in use

should look like this

[floral shard]

did I do it wrong it no worky

[stable roost]

mmm lemme look

change the 3rd and 4th value to 1

there you go

oh your rates wtf

OH

move all your run times up a row

your first row is empty so your rates arent working

yeah see

[floral shard]

first run is nil

I just got too lazy to fix the number lol

[stable roost]

mm

[upbeat monolith]

Does anyone have a A-Z list of plants/fruit

[floral shard]

Magmite Run 4 Notes:
Magmite is good 10k per min
Some magmite turned to obsidian(mostly smaller pieces)
Server hopped 3 times(Bad luck with spawn times)
NO FIRE POTION
Magmite and Flameslate Run 5 Notes:
Figured out how to consistently get over my fears!
Flameslate sucks needs a large buff; magmite is just so much better
flameslate 1.4k per min vs magmite 7.5k
That's a 5x difference (thats a lot)
does not include the down cost of the fire potion which would lower the overall rate by 1k per min

did not server hop

[upbeat monolith]

What about the cost for the belt aswell

Is that something that should be taken into consideration

[floral shard]

whelp then I would be making negative money per run lol

[upbeat monolith]

Yeah I guess that would be hard to add in

With it being 1 time purchase

[stable roost]

Flameslate buff it is

Given it would be a small buff

Uhhh @floral shard do some lumite runs ked

Cause from my data it wouldn’t hurt to buff lumite a bit as well

[floral shard]

I'm getting 8-9k per min

[stable roost]

Should be fine then

[floral shard]

@torpid ocean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRVBXrao0w

10k per min

[low moon]

hold up

money?

[stable roost]

Mmmm kelp

I’ll do some lum kelp runs

[nocturne peak]

Damn that's alot of stuff

[upbeat monolith]

Keep in mind to efficiently farm it you’d need a refund scuba which is no easy task

[floral shard]

trailers don't save during server hops anymore

lumite such a coin flip; sometimes 9.5k per min somtimes 8k

[upbeat monolith]

I’ve had this issue for a while

It cleared up for a bit sorta but still mostly happens

Semi ftw

[stable roost]

Yeah that’s why I don’t server hop

[floral shard]

How does hardness/toughness for rocks/trees work?

scaling-wise

bro my 2nd trailer spawns in but my first trailer didn't

[upbeat monolith]

lol

[upbeat monolith]

What’s the max overall % a material can drop on market board ?

[floral shard]

20%

so 0.8 of base

[stable roost]

Ye

[upbeat monolith]

Ok Ty

So for example uraniums lowest would be 544?

[reef oar]

Has anyone tested the kelp method that someone made a video on a bit ago I tried replicating it and couldn’t get anywhere close to it

[agile kite]

yes

like 1 truck load is newrly 13 k

so having to go however many times to in 1 hour is ALOT

maybe like 15 trips or so(pure guessing) with trailers

so its js not realistic

[floral shard]

wait sellner plus trailers?

[agile kite]

i dont remember exactly but i think it was only 1 truck

[agile kite]

nut i overflowed it

[floral shard]

then ur grinding suboptimaly

ofc ur not gonna be getting optimal rates

[oak stone]

I tested 3 times

all over 600k an hour 😮

@reef oar

which includes the processing time ...

[reef oar]

Damn

Guess I’m just slow then lol

[agile kite]

me too ig

[reef oar]

@oak stone I can get 16 ish per load but how did you get the kelp to spawn so quickly half the time I’m just driving around for one or two at a time

And sorry for the ping by the way

I can confirm it works though with like 20 min of farming I got 160k

[oak stone]

sooo much spawns for me - unless ole Jak has done a quick nerf haha

I also do both Normal and Luminescent kelp

[floral shard]

@torpid ocean any forageble near spawn is probably broken rn if its jarred price > 400, since lavender is at 8-9k rn; e.g. sakura apparently its 16k per min based on someone's testing

defo not 16k per min but its probably above 10k

[reef oar]

Like Sakura trees?

[digital aurora]

🪦

[torpid ocean]

No the flowers

[floral shard]

Jak did Emberbane get buffed in the most recent update?

and how does the emberbane mechanic work with the multi chops?

[floral shard]

10.6k per min MM run

[stable roost]

yeah mm is basically balanced

eeuhhh i may make a list of stuff thats currently balanced so we can see where we're at

im gonna go back and redo like all my old data now that we have like different sized trees and stuff

[floral shard]

caps only 11k per min high rate

shrooms are so back

love driving sellner plus trailers into the canyon🙃

[stable roost]

mmmmm yes

[lime kite]

not for long

[lime kite]

just curious, did you guys account for failed runs when doing the balancing data for magmite?

[stable roost]

I mean I never really had failed runs, usually if I failed a run I wouldn’t even record it and I’d just try again

But yeah, if we did record a failed run it gets accounted for

Usually failed runs just cause stuff like a higher farming time or a higher travel time if you flip or something

[lime kite]

true

[stable roost]

Jak kinda bases the balancing off like “optimized” runs which use a hypothetical processing time, so if the optimized run is like 1-2k within the ideal money/min, means it’s balanced

Cause like everyone has different kinds of loaders and unloaders

[hot thistle]

Is their any thing better than plek and not magma wood cause I don’t like to farm it lol

[stable roost]

Not really cause those are like the end game materials

Try boomite, it’s good

[hot thistle]

Alright

[hot thistle]

Thank you

[floral shard]

plek is absurd

still hate it tho

[floral shard]

cosmic how'd u do 3 trailers for plek

I keep clipping random bumps and go flying😭

[floral shard]

Plek is new meta

[hot thistle]

I do 4

Doing 5 is almost impossible

Cause how long it is

[hot thistle]

Is it fr?

Ima start grinding it more

[floral shard]

14k per min

[hot thistle]

Wow

[floral shard]

4k more than other late game

[hot thistle]

YES I don’t have to grind boring magma wood

[floral shard]

Yeahhhhh

[upbeat monolith]

How’s plek any less “boring” lol

[hot thistle]

It’s way easier and better to grind

[floral shard]

Less dreary imo

[hot thistle]

Magma has more steps and is boring

[upbeat monolith]

I play mobile and usually have Netflix on Picture in Picture mode floating on top of the game so it doesn’t bug me too much lol

[upbeat monolith]

But yes I’d agree if I didn’t

[hot thistle]

Mobile is so hard to play onnnn

[floral shard]

Does ur game not lag?

Dang what phone model

[upbeat monolith]

Surprisinglyruns really well

[floral shard]

I need this

[hot thistle]

Might be cause I’m not use to it

[upbeat monolith]

When acid lands first came out it broke my phone ngl lol

But the devs have done a lot of good work to reduce that and it’s running great again

[stable roost]

I love plek

[upbeat monolith]

See I was on my year break when river cave and plek came out so I never played when it was the meta. I don’t know the route 😦

[floral shard]

the route completely changed since then lol

before was the maze now we have scenic route

[stable roost]

ye

[upbeat monolith]

Has anyone made a video I can watch?

[stable roost]

hang on lemme find mine

[floral shard]

dang I just found it lol

#1337177575612612649 message

[junior tulip]

lmao (@c0smicviolet)

@torpid ocean here my plek route

Typical Developers - MOB!! · Apr 30, 2025, 1:28 AM

[stable roost]

this was made before the map revamp but its still about the same

[floral shard]

[stable roost]

yyes

[floral shard]

jak also recorded one iirc

[stable roost]

yeah

well idk

[lime kite]

why plek of all things 🥀

why not boomite, or magmite, or magma trees, or uranium

[stable roost]

well for 2 of them apparently they worked togehter with someone

still max is like 14k for the solo one so

mmm tomorrow ill see if i can get up to that

[lime kite]

do you have a processing setup for trees?

[stable roost]

ye

[lime kite]

im trying to build one but ive been struggling 🙁

[stable roost]

idk i built tupi's

[upbeat monolith]

Build frumpys semi loader unloaded it works so good

[floral shard]

I think 5 solo runs is enough data for plek

now time to never touch it again until river rework

[floral shard]

pallidium 10k per min🔥

can we get more tree metas cause rn its 3 tree vs 7 rock

[upbeat monolith]

Was palladium changed to not be so random?

Sometimes I’ll spend 15 minutes in the cave and only find 1 node

[floral shard]

Nope still pure luck

[upbeat monolith]

Ok thought so lol

[reef oar]

How do I get plek?

I’ve never seen it in the lumite caves

[stable roost]

#1337177575612612649 message

[junior tulip]

lmao (@c0smicviolet)

Typical Developers - MOB!! · Jul 29, 2025, 1:57 AM

[reef oar]

That seems like a long way lol

[reef oar]

And thank you

[stable roost]

yeah its like 2 mins but idk

[floral shard]

can we get an artic kelp buff its 3k per min

a 2x size increase would be 🔥

[stable roost]

Is artic kelp even supposed to be a viable farming method

[torpid ocean]

not late game

well if you dont have scuba you cant

so no not really ig

[stable roost]

Eeeeeuh if you want, you could make a new list of the goals for materials, especially since we have new ones

And then I can keep track of stuff that’s properly balanced

[floral shard]

plek nerf when

[upbeat monolith]

Do you saw the plek to be able to fit more in the load ?

[floral shard]

nope just get in and get out quickly

if you cut it right the pieces should be pretty straight

[stable roost]

I really need to do more plek runs, cause when I did it the optimized run was fine

[floral shard]

I think ember buff made it a lot faster or sum; or leaf collision

[stable roost]

I mean I used pollaxe

Doesn’t the emberbane have the same stats as reinforced now?

[floral shard]

yeah but multihit so idk

[stable roost]

And I did the run when leaf collision was removed so

[stable roost]

You’re right…

[floral shard]

didn't ur run do sawing?

[stable roost]

No

[floral shard]

where no sawing run

[stable roost]

At least I don’t think so

[floral shard]

me no see

[stable roost]

Uhhh lemme see

[floral shard]

15 min grind time for 3 trailers is absurd if no saw

[stable roost]

Idk maybe I did saw????

[floral shard]

u defo sawwed ked

[stable roost]

Either way yeah ima do another run with emberbane later cause im gonna hit the gym

[floral shard]

gym is good u should get do azy challenge to get statue

good motivation fr

[stable roost]

I mean I’m trying to lose weight so, I’m mainly doing cardio

[upbeat monolith]

Have you tried a few runs with sawing and collecting more ? To see if it ends up being better or worse ?

[floral shard]

Cosmic did one

[upbeat monolith]

What’s the challenge 😮

[floral shard]

Excercise

[upbeat monolith]

Well 1 wouldn’t be enough to get proper data I don’t think lol but I suppose

[floral shard]

Cosmic knows the route

[upbeat monolith]

What’s the exercise needed ?

[floral shard]

Push-ups pull-ups

Tailored for person to person

[upbeat monolith]

I reach out to him for my amounts ?

[floral shard]

Yeah give desc of ur abilities

[upbeat monolith]

Interesting Alr

[stable roost]

Hello

I’ve sent my plek route a few times in here

[upbeat monolith]

@torpid ocean #1400110704211525632 check out this guys post. Could be a great idea for a market revamp

You’d still have to add in the refined and sanded. But how is shows base price and current price and the tax thing makes it easier to understand how it works

[torpid ocean]

Yea Ive asked hoof to do it a few times

I'm gonna figure it out myself lel

[stable roost]

Splendid

Also I think once I get home I’m gonna make a spreadsheet or something so we can keep track of what’s balanced and what still needs work

[floral shard]

is there a mid-game prog in oaklands rn? just feels like u can make uncertain pick and then go straight for boomite or make emberbane and go for MM

[stable roost]

Ehhhh idk, unfortunately people usually just do sequoia and skip mid game

Rosa quartz is the only like mid game thing I can think of

Kelp maybe???

[floral shard]

rosa is like pretty good tho ngl

8k per min

[stable roost]

Yeah

[floral shard]

kelp needs scuba for good rate without its a little slow

compared to rosa

[stable roost]

Eeeuh lemme look at my data

Eh kelp is early game nvm

Idk I’ll look at the old list Jak made in a sec

[stable roost]

ok so i took a look at the old list jak made for intented rates for some materials, and based off that we have boomite, fungiviolet, rosa quartz, mm, lumite, and magma being balanced

im gonna try and retest a ton of my old tree data tomorrow with the emberbane and see if i can get better runs in

[floral shard]

12k rose gold plus pallidium high rate

only got 4 pall nodes total rest was rose gold

so I don't think I got too lucky with it

no serverhop

[floral shard]

second run 9k high rate 3 pall nodes(nodes were the skinny nodes)

zero clue if semi is more viable than sellner plus 3 trailers

only doing sellner so its easier to sort pall and rose

put my runs under CANYON GRIND

[floral shard]

nvm numbers are still rate not low nor high

12.5k first run, 10k second run, 11k third run high rates

so sellner plus 3 trailers > semi

[torpid ocean]

End goals for each material (UPDATED)
higher difficulty/investment > higher rates

these rates should represent the higher end of the max sell price ACTUAL rates. Optimized Max sell rates shouldn't be more than 2k over

Early game / early mid game - anything else not listed is either meant for early game, or mainly building. rates from 0k/min-2k/min

Mid/late mid game (USING MID/LATE MID GAME ITEMS)
Petrified oak 4-5k/min
olive 3-4k/min
acacia 3-4k/min
blue pine 4-5k/min

spruce 5-6k/min
Kelp (and luminescent)- 5-6k/min (no refined scooba)
Purple Cactus - 5-6k/min
Red Cactus - 6-7k/min
Sakura Blossom - 5-6k/min
Regular Mushroom - 5-6k/min

blueslate /smokeyslate ore - 4-5k/min

fungi violet - 6-7k/min
Rosa Quartz 5-6k/min
Quartz 4-5k/min

Lavaslate and Blackstone ore (magma cave) - 7-8k/min

Probably gonna make these 2 late game, however if they are they need to have higher tier rock
Palladium - 5-6k/min (9-10k late)
Boomite - 7-8k/min (9-10k late)

late game

ice pine - 9-10k/min
magma - 9-10k/min (not meteors)
plek - 9-10k/min
Mysterious Mushroom 9-10k/min

magmite/flameslate - 9-10k/min
lumite - 8-9k/min
sapphire - 9-10k/min
Uranium - 9-10k/min

greeb - 7-8k/min

any non end game mats shouldn't be over 8-9k/min when using end game stuff

FORAGABLES
<5k/min
fruits will give buffs for eating, jarred fruits makes buffs last longer

[torpid ocean]

What mats am I missing

[floral shard]

rose gold

fungiviolite

oh nvm

"Kelp (and luminescent)- 5-6k/min (no refined scooba)" what about with scuba?

[split locust]

what is mm

[floral shard]

mysterious mushrooms

[upbeat monolith]

This is wicked and looks like it’ll be great for all stages of the game

[torpid ocean]

I'll add this to it but any non end game mats shouldn't be over 8-9k/min when using end game stuff

They should really be even lower than that but that's the max

Depends on the matsrial and difficulty

[lime kite]

gonna be honest, i dont think this was thought through much

why is magma trees the same as magmite

[floral shard]

they are basically the same difficulty

both aren't hard at all

[torpid ocean]

not hard at all!!!?!!

[lime kite]

magmite stresses me out, also unlike magma trees if you mess up, your run is ruined

and why is sapphire the same rate as uranium?

[stable roost]

Mmm looks fine rn, if I find anything I’ll let you know

OH, I forgot to share my thingy I made to keep track of stuff

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wPrXtlL5WKqT1hr3TEenLHBmEFWgJnAqt5j5vuXbASE/edit?usp=drivesdk

For some I used both me and Lucky’s data, but today I’m gonna regather a TON of my tree data since the emberbane is buffed so like half of it is empty rn

[floral shard]

fineee I guess theres a steep learning curve but afterwards it reltively simple

[floral shard]

[stable roost]

Yes

[floral shard]

Where does red and purple cactus spawn mostly?

Also it would be kinda cool if red cactus show thorns at you like the corrupted version

Shot

[stable roost]

the higher areas of the desert

[upbeat monolith]

By the old classic shop

[floral shard]

this made 47,487

red cactus 3k per min with max set-up

I miss old map purple cactus grinding

also I remember during halloween we were able to jump/climb to the classic store area from the ground floor of the desert

am I just going crazy

also purple and red cactus spawns are right next to each other why would a player not grind red over purple?

[twin thunder]

It's impossible to take a semi into the plek cave right

[hard lark]

From what I saw it is possible

[twin thunder]

Boxed upgrade

It can't fit

And crates are terrible

[hard lark]

#oak-media message

[junior tulip]

Simas (@ssimass)

dont think you're ment to be able to get that down here

Typical Developers - #oak-media · Aug 1, 2025, 2:01 PM

[hard lark]

idk how

[twin thunder]

How old is that

[hard lark]

today days old

[floral shard]

prolly suboptimal since semi speed slow af and that route is also slow af

chance based ores are so silly

13k per min lumite peak 8k mininum rn

[floral shard]

#oak-questions message

[junior tulip]

Dark_Shadow (@dark5051)

Did they lower the price of the plek?
I sold 5 extended trailers full of plek but I got only 200k.
200k I did with only 3/2 extended trailers

Typical Developers - #oak-questions · Aug 1, 2025, 8:36 PM

[floral shard]

Jak did you finally nerf plek ?

[upbeat monolith]

Savage

[torpid ocean]

no It would have been in changelog

hasn't even been an update

I think

[stable roost]

They prolly didn’t load the trailers all the way or summ

[floral shard]

its down 20% today

[stable roost]

That’s prolly why

[floral shard]

I wish it was always down 20%

[floral shard]

scrap needs a buff

only 8k per min high rate

[lime kite]

[floral shard]

jak is stud = unit?

[stable roost]

WHY DID YOU TEST SCRAP

[floral shard]

ITS A GRINDABLE CURRENCY

GOTTA MAKE SURE ITS BALANCED

[stable roost]

Bro

[stable roost]

Also yeah one stud is one unit I think

[floral shard]

alr thanks

[stable roost]

Jak can correct me if he wants but yeah

[lime kite]

alien spawnrates got nerfed 🥀

[twin thunder]

Literally who cares

[lime kite]

Who are you 😭

[twin thunder]

What's wrong

@lime kite

[wanton dune]

4500 messages

[floral shard]

new optimal scrap method 16k scrap per min #oak-media message

[junior tulip]

BICKELSBOSS (@bickelsboss)

Typical Developers - #oak-media · Aug 5, 2025, 7:33 PM

[reef oar]

Uhm what

How?

[stable roost]

Bro are you trying to get scrap nerfed or something

[lime kite]

how

the picture explains nothing 🥀

[floral shard]

joking

not serious

[lime kite]

💀

[ebon egret]

perhaps metal detector

[floral shard]

Raw adurite it’s not luck based nor am I that blind😭

[ebon egret]

oh

i think it spawns in one specific location, idk tho i haven't found them since the devs moved where it spawns

should be on or around one massive vein of raw adurite

[dark sundial]

It's in that room at the start of the Magma Caves with the bunch of little islands and the boards

[ebon egret]

cool, thanks

[floral shard]

Oh Jak someone's having trouble with the blue keycard quest is it still possible with map revamp?

[upbeat monolith]

Yes it is I did it not too long ago

[floral shard]

Gotcha thanks

[jade halo]

Yo how do u farm it fast

Its really annoying fighting with the skeletons and healing

[torpid ocean]

Has anyone tried bluepine recently

Max setup

[floral shard]

oh wow blue pine got taller?

[floral shard]

ok so 20k optimized but.....

my processing time counts cutting the tree

I didn't bother cutting tree before processing

cause yk too annoying

so 9k high rate

if the crate bug where u store a ton of mat in a crate is still a thing I think blue pine is broken

since my processor can't handle this much wood rn

I only cut down three trees and like 10 big ones spawn per server

[floral shard]

oh if someone has a set up using bandsaw it would push this rate a lot further

cutting took 50% of the time

[floral shard]

kinda like pre nerf sequoia ngl

[stable roost]

Yeah I think the biggest issue rn is the really big trees, I’m gonna get data where I just gather it normally

[lime kite]

im trying to design a processor rn actually

its like impossible to get the bandsaws to do what i want 😭

[floral shard]

because conveyor?

hit a 10k per min run for blue pine(9,667)

[lime kite]

wdym

[upbeat monolith]

What is this “max setup”

[stable roost]

Basically like best tools

[upbeat monolith]

Nothing to do with processing setup?

[stable roost]

Not really cause we have the optimized

[upbeat monolith]

Wdym

[stable roost]

On the spreadsheet

[upbeat monolith]

But what I’m wondering is are the rates based off just the collection of the materials ?

Cause in my opinion that’s what it should be based on . Have nothing to do with what happens once it reaches your plot

[stable roost]

Based off of travel time, farming time mostly

[upbeat monolith]

Yes ok so that’s it ?

[stable roost]

Basically yeah

[upbeat monolith]

And nothing to do with time to process and sell?

[stable roost]

It’s also taken into account yeah, but there’s both an “actual” rate and “optimized” rate

Actual rate uses your processing time, optimized uses a theoretical processing time

[upbeat monolith]

I don’t think it should be taken in to account tho

It should all be based purely on difficulty of farming + travel

Once the farmed material reaches your plot timer should be stopped

Cause after that it’s a wild ball game and will vary so much

[stable roost]

Again that’s why we have an optimized section for the materials, we can plug in whatever number for that

Optimized is basically like the “max” for how much you could make an hour

Or min

[upbeat monolith]

Hmm

[floral shard]

What’s the problem with bandsaw?

[floral shard]

Rn both me and cosmic have pretty strong set-ups but yes it could be a problem if we had more people helping😭

Not something we need to worry about as of the moment

[lime kite]

its cutting on the ends of the wood instead of at the intersection of several pieces

[floral shard]

that would only be a prob for blue pine right?

ohhh nvm ic

[lime kite]

it affects any tree

[floral shard]

maybe bandsaw all in one area to overlap cutting?

[lime kite]

maybe

but the more bandsaws you have the more likely it is to get stuck

(on the thin bars or whatever)

[floral shard]

yeah...

I can only think of the proccesing setup being the ground then

kinda like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwR_Rec-Pk&t=2s

[upbeat monolith]

My point is that it shouldn’t have to do with processing time

Cause that’s where data can imo get crazy

[floral shard]

How so?

[lime kite]

seems like this machine would struggle with larger trees

but its pretty decent

[lime kite]

I agree icl

[stable roost]

Mk in that case I’ll just make a sheet that gets rid of processing time and see what the difference is

You know what, @torpid ocean can you explain why you take processing time into account

[torpid ocean]

its the difference between a sweat and average player

[stable roost]

Yeah cause they think it shouldn’t be considered at all

[torpid ocean]

why

if i dont consider processing time at all stuff will be over nerfed

[stable roost]

Because it can vary too much apparently

Which is why optimized and actual exists

[torpid ocean]

actual should represent a good player's setup
and the optomized is like a theoretical max if someone had a crazy setup

which is why i dont really mind that much if optomized is a bit higher as long as actual isnt aswell

[stable roost]

Yeah

Also while you’re here, I think the biggest thing rn that’s gonna affect balancing of trees is the like really big ones

Cause lucky did a run where they only grabbed like a few big trees and got like an insane rate

[torpid ocean]

is it just because you can get more alot faster

@floral shard

ive been thinking about increasing their like cut time

toughness

whatever

[stable roost]

The farming time was literally just 1 min

I’m still gonna do runs where I kinda just grab stuff like the average player would and see how it is

Cause my old data is like 2k max per min but that’s pre terrain update

[torpid ocean]

its hard because if i just nerf it, its gonna be horrible for normal players

[stable roost]

Mhm

[torpid ocean]

like most people dont have insane bandsaw machines

[stable roost]

Yeah my setup now is like multiple sanders and planters

Plankers

[torpid ocean]

if you are cutting them manually its probably perfectly fine

[stable roost]

I do however have a save with like a horrible setup so I can test on there

I mean hypothetically if you want the “best” run you’d really only be grabbing the really big trees

Kinda like sequoia kinda, it’s just cause of the large volume

[upbeat monolith]

But what make a “sweat” or average

Wouldn’t it just mean they farm a lot of stuff faster

[torpid ocean]

based on the setup

[upbeat monolith]

An average player can build the most efficient setup

My point being a sweat would farm faster and more efficiently

[torpid ocean]

i dont think typical players are going to build the best possible setup

[upbeat monolith]

One of the first thing I did when I retured to the game after a year “ essentially started fresh as it was a brand new game at this point , I looked into the top setups

But I just feel material value should be based purely on the time to farm, with difficulty, and travel time and even just time to mine ( magmite) should be what makes it more valuable

[stable roost]

mk so i removed processing time and it basically caused my actual rate to increase

by like 1k

[torpid ocean]

it doesnt make sense to not consider a variable

[upbeat monolith]

Market changing is a variable

[torpid ocean]

its accounted for

[stable roost]

ok but the sheet accounts for that i believe

[upbeat monolith]

I’m saying it’s a variable though lol

[stable roost]

yeah

[upbeat monolith]

It could be anywhere in between low and high aswell

[stable roost]

the point is trying to figure out the hypothetical max someone could make from a material

[torpid ocean]

@floral shard you are using bandsaw setup right

when you got 9k/min with blue pine

I think I need to make it so the bandsaws aren't like a million times faster than cutting by hand

[stable roost]

Prolly

I don’t think lucky has bandsaws tho

Neither do I

[torpid ocean]

are they selling raw?

well their actual rate was high too

[stable roost]

Good question, I don’t think so cause earlier they mentioned their machine having issues with it

[floral shard]

Toughness would be a good fix

[floral shard]

Nope

[stable roost]

I mean the high rate is cause its literally like a 1 min farming time

[floral shard]

Pure just me cutting

I can quite lottery throw the tree to my base

Literally

Thats how close it is

[torpid ocean]

Ya

[stable roost]

Plot 5 my beloved

Should I gather blue pine the “normal way” and just grab whatever trees are near me, regardless of size

[floral shard]

biggg better

thicker trunk

[stable roost]

Dude but then if it gets nerfed the smaller trees will be worth nothing

[floral shard]

yep

thats the problem

I think nerfing it would make it suck for progression

[torpid ocean]

well it should probably be similar to oak

given that it's right next to base now

[stable roost]

The big trees are a NIGHTMARE

[floral shard]

also wat you do for progression run cosmic

[torpid ocean]

could you try doing great oak

[stable roost]

Basically whatever tier that tree needs

[stable roost]

Ok

[floral shard]

great oak = big oak tree?

[stable roost]

Yeah

[torpid ocean]

ya

[floral shard]

zero clue that existed ngl

[torpid ocean]

they are all called great

internally

[floral shard]

its still affected by stocks tho?

[torpid ocean]

ya

it's all combined into one tree but the generation is technically different trees

[floral shard]

o just noticed there are two blue pine values in the mat sheet

[stable roost]

so like, should i just not bother trying to grind any tree normally and instead just grab big trees?

[torpid ocean]

Idk

[stable roost]

cause i still feel like grinding it normally is just as important to consider, because obviously bigger tree = more money

[floral shard]

are we grinding normally?

[stable roost]

thats why sequoia is good despire being like 1 dollar

[stable roost]

when i say grind normally, i mean like grabbing different sized trees

not just focusing on the great trees

[floral shard]

o

[stable roost]

because obviously those are gonna give a lot of money

[floral shard]

so like max vs progression how we grind?

[stable roost]

max is like maxxed tools and setup, progression is based on the minimum tier required

so like using a rusty axe for oak

[floral shard]

sander affected by size or smth?

big = money? so no take small cause sub-optimal right?

quality > quantity fr

[stable roost]

yeah but not everyone knows to just go for the big trees

[floral shard]

by this I mean sander tiers like less volume

[stable roost]

i feel like we shouldnt base the balancing off of JUST the great trees

[floral shard]

but then we don't know wat to nerf or not

cause sub-optimal

[torpid ocean]

Great trees should effectively be no different than getting a few normal trees

Is the goal

[floral shard]

you would have to change values individually then

[torpid ocean]

I don't think changing values fixes this

[stable roost]

yeah thats the issue

the great trees have more volume

you would have to make 2 seperate values

[floral shard]

yeah volume > value in this case

[torpid ocean]

It's a problem with the chop time scaling i believe

[floral shard]

for great trees

[torpid ocean]

Yes

[stable roost]

maybe???

[floral shard]

yeah that works as well

[torpid ocean]

Like

[floral shard]

it would have to be a very sizable difference tho

like veryyy

[stable roost]

yeah either make great trees harder to cut or like, put great trees in their own value range

[torpid ocean]

It should take the same time to process a great tree than it does to process equivalent value normal trees

[floral shard]

I think you would have to triple toughness for great blue pine as an example

[stable roost]

eeeeh, lemme grab like 2 great oak trees that are near my base and see what i get

[floral shard]

where spawn

and what plot number

[stable roost]

finlay bruh

[torpid ocean]

Forests

[floral shard]

idk the names ked

[stable roost]

literally any plot on finlay

[stable roost]

NOOB

[floral shard]

I have zero oaklands knowledge

[stable roost]

bruh

HOW CAN YOU BE BALANCING AND KNOW NOTHING KED?????

[floral shard]

I JUST CUT TREE AND MINE ROCK

AND HIRE PEOPLE TO MAKE PROCESSORS

AND TRADE

[stable roost]

im going to shake you like a latte

anyway oak time

lucky you will rue the day

[floral shard]

of wat

[stable roost]

you just will

[floral shard]

aw

[lime kite]

so we're killing bandsaws

[floral shard]

huh red birch also has two values in the mat list

[torpid ocean]

No

No

[floral shard]

we're saved

[lime kite]

what would be the point of bandsaws if theyre nerfed?

[floral shard]

murder ppl

many a uses

[torpid ocean]

If you READ 🧌you would see luck y said they got without

So clearly they aren't the problem

[lime kite]

🙏

[floral shard]

oh right wat tierr is cutting red mushrooms at

[torpid ocean]

I think steel

[stable roost]

id ignore the optimized but yeah i got like 5.5k ish

@torpid ocean

only grabbed like 2 trees

[torpid ocean]

yea def broke

[stable roost]

i think you may have to put great trees in they own value cat

[torpid ocean]

It's unintuitive

I want to fix the chop time scaling

[stable roost]

yeah true

cause with emberbane it didnt take much time at all

would prolly fix sequoia too

actually no it wouldnt, that tree is just so big that it gives a lot of money no matter what

[floral shard]

oo red mushroom new best mid game tree?

6k per min but veryy suboptimal

didn't even take the caps lol

[stable roost]

i swear

0.43 farming time

[floral shard]

it just cut

once for bottom once for top

[stable roost]

god bless, at this point i should drop out of the balancing effort and just let you handle it

[floral shard]

1.75 for full charge its pretty fast ngl

[stable roost]

emberbame

[floral shard]

yep

[stable roost]

i may still gather data gathering different sized trees cause tbh i dont think its intended to just be grabbing the great trees

not even may, im going to do that since it should all be about the same

[robust nimbus]

@torpid ocean what flowers are you nerfing because ill quit if you nerf the ones I grind 🙁

[torpid ocean]

If it takes longer to cut then the $/min would be same

Are you on rn btw

[torpid ocean]

Any that let you get more than like 7 or 8k a min

[robust nimbus]

can you name some?

[torpid ocean]

no

[robust nimbus]

so lavender is getting nerfed 🙁

[torpid ocean]

if you can make over 8k a min

[robust nimbus]

oh no I dont think u can

wait so then no flowers are getting nerfed

because it depends on the machine u have and the method you do u cant make that much unless you have that stuff

[stable roost]

i am now why

was there something specific you wanted me to look at

[torpid ocean]

no but im doing some testing for the toughness thing

if you wanna join

[stable roost]

bet ill join

[torpid ocean]

https://www.roblox.com/games/9938675423?privateServerLinkCode=64319290701378232371579815792128

[lime kite]

💔

im just trying to adapt lol

[upbeat monolith]

Am I crazy or was the semi walls made thinner… I have stuff clipping through all the time now

Also it’s annoying the trailer wheels stick out further than the seller … the truck fits through then my trailer gets stuck :/

[lime kite]

I don’t think they were

[upbeat monolith]

I can’t load with a grabby anymore for it sends the semi trailer flying around and everything falls out

[lime kite]

does it do that often

[upbeat monolith]

It happened 3 times then I gave up using the semi:/

[lime kite]

Dang 🥀

[upbeat monolith]

It’s like playing the game operation.. if i touch the side while loading the thing explodes

[torpid ocean]

@stable roost thought of a potential solution

Change how cutting works
When a tree is still rooted, the first cut you make hit requirement is determined by the total volume of the tree (& toughness constant)

Then, when the tree is down, all the other hits are a lot shorter, so most of the time is spent on the initial first chop

[stable roost]

ooooo

yeah that could be good

wouldnt that make it like way too easy to cut down the smaller trees tho?

[torpid ocean]

Well we'd make sure they are the same as before

It would mainly just effect large trees

[stable roost]

ohhhhh

in that case yeah that sounds like a decent solution

[torpid ocean]

I feel like people might like it better that way

idk

[stable roost]

lol def not, people hatw anything that isnt like a buff

[torpid ocean]

like once you have the tree down, it won't take a million years to cut each individual peice

[stable roost]

ohhh

[torpid ocean]

well like just for building ig

[stable roost]

wait actually yeah

[torpid ocean]

it will just take a bit longer to cut down initially

[stable roost]

that actually sounds pretty good tbh

[lime kite]

i kinda like this actually

seems more realistic

[floral shard]

the sapling aren't included when you want all tree size varients to be equal right?

[upbeat monolith]

What about adding a new tool, like a handheld Skilsaw that only works once a tree has been cut down and it chops it up fast

[torpid ocean]

They aren't all going to be equal
It's the time per volume that should be equal

so sapling would be

[stable roost]

Mmm sapling

[floral shard]

whelp alien axe best axe now ig

does more per hit than emberbane and is faster

[torpid ocean]

great

[stable roost]

Lmao are you fonna be nerfing it

[torpid ocean]

not gonna stay like this

Yes

why would a limited item be better than perm stuff

makes no sense

[stable roost]

Yeah plus emberbane is a pain to get

Makes sense for emberbane to be the best axe

[torpid ocean]

and now everyone is gonna be crying about ts

uhg

[stable roost]

[torpid ocean]

idek they were gonna be like this vro

[stable roost]

Mm maybe you could slightly buff the emberbane more or summ so it’s on par with the alien axe

Although idk if that would make it too powerful

[torpid ocean]

I don't wanna do that

The alien pickaxe can just have same stats as uncertainty

and axe can be same as emberbane without the magma tree buff

[stable roost]

Ye

People are still gonna complain but when do people ever not complain

[stable roost]

Ok well I’m seeing that the axe can’t cut magma and stuff

[torpid ocean]

nvm ig

[stable roost]

People keep saying it’s a bug lmao

[upbeat monolith]

I still prefer gleam ..

[lime kite]

good thing i didnt waste my money on the alien tools 🙏

[floral shard]

huh alien pick < uncertain

are the ufo's suppose to do dmg cause I rlly can't tell

[hard lark]

yes they do damage the stones

[floral shard]

gotcha
its only noticeable with weaker rocks

[hard lark]

true

[torpid ocean]

(im not changing them )

[floral shard]

so the axe tier req is intentional then?

found a sellner worth of lumite on the ground free 100k🤑

[torpid ocean]

idk

[lime kite]

🤑

[stable roost]

Hoping people vote for the new one

Well it’s winning so

This is splendid

[upbeat monolith]

goated for having that idea and implementing it working 24 hrs!

Is making it so the initial cut can vary depending on which type of tree be something that’s feasible? Or would that all come down to axe type

[lime kite]

is the new system going to make gathering trees take longer

[stable roost]

Nah it’ll just take longer to get bigger trees

[upbeat monolith]

I don’t think so

[stable roost]

Like the great oak and great willow

[upbeat monolith]

You’ll be able to trim them to fit a lot faster which should reduce time I think

[stable roost]

Cause rn the great trees kinda break balance cause of their volume so more time should be spent on the initial cutting of the tree

So I don’t think it’ll reduce time much, it’ll kinda just make great trees similar to regular trees in terms of gathering time

[torpid ocean]

I cheated

I just made 2 axes with different stats for the new system

[stable roost]

LMAO

[torpid ocean]

hoofer would need to actually add it because idk how to without breaking everything

[lime kite]

😭

[upbeat monolith]

Hey but still, to be able to make something to show the community to get input to see if it’s worth hoofer putting time into is awesome

[torpid ocean]

That's the idea

[stable roost]

Mmm I wonder if you can ask hoofer to add it in like testing or summ

[torpid ocean]

well if I do add it, I'll need to change like all of the tree's toughness so they don't take longer to cut than before

[marsh patio]

every single thing in icelands is not worth it for the time it takes

[stable roost]

Oh fun

[marsh patio]

and effort

and money

[torpid ocean]

I thought sapphire was still good

[lime kite]

ong

[stable roost]

Eh…

[marsh patio]

besides sapphire

[torpid ocean]

well the only other thing is ice pine

[stable roost]

I think when I did testing with ice pine it was still mid

Lemme see

[lime kite]

sapphire might be good, i just hate waiting for things to spawn in

[marsh patio]

its already basically impossible to get anywhere there without falling down and spending 10+ minutes figuring out how to get back up

it might be a skill issue

but then theres also the price just to get there

and ufo's cant even go there

[fast yoke]

yeah

[stable roost]

Snow is 162.5 right?

[fast yoke]

jak

can you make it so ufo can go on the lift in icelands

[lime kite]

snow ore?

[stable roost]

I meant ice pine

[lime kite]

oh

[stable roost]

It’s known as snow internally

Mm yeah ice pine needs a buff for sure

[lime kite]

[stable roost]

Only like 4-6k optimized

[lime kite]

Do you know if server hopping is an intended feature?

It seems buggy for me lately

[stable roost]

lol no

It’s supposed to be for keeping your items intact in the case of an accidental disconnect

[lime kite]

alr 😄

[stable roost]

Yes

[lime kite]

[stable roost]

Idk why it’s suddenly being buggy tho

You using semi when hopping?

[lime kite]

yeah

[stable roost]

Cause apparently semi has issues with that

Ah, that explains it

[lime kite]

I just dont server hop anymore

[stable roost]

I honestly never server hop when gathering data, I never have a need to

[torpid ocean]

it was only really a thing for foraging

[fast yoke]

jak

[torpid ocean]

Hi

[fast yoke]

was flame thrower 200k back then

[torpid ocean]

i dont think the price has changed

[stable roost]

Ok

[marsh patio]

bro im pretty sure it was 200k

[fast yoke]

also how good is saphire

[marsh patio]

cause it says 324k

[stable roost]

Nuh it never was

[fast yoke]

is it worth it

[torpid ocean]

if you plan to be in the icelands alot

sure

[marsh patio]

oh buddy

[stable roost]

Also yeah Jak ice pine can use a buff

[marsh patio]

pls lower price

of flamethrower

[stable roost]

4-6k optimized so

[torpid ocean]

130>165

162.5>206.25

[stable roost]

Mm

Lemme see

[torpid ocean]

would be like 8.5k on high end

[stable roost]

Mhm

[celest fiber]

Buff flameslate and the obsidian belt

[stable roost]

Yeah a small flameslate buff wouldn’t hurt since it would get everything to 10k

[celest fiber]

Flamethrower was 320k was I got it

[floral shard]

Oh right cosmic did you saw for ice pine runs? (I didn’t)

[stable roost]

mmm i may have but i dont remember

either way im gonna redo the data for it so

[floral shard]

What was I even doing for my ice pine data💀

[stable roost]

shrug

[floral shard]

Balance changes coming with fishing then?

[fast yoke]

how much is flame thrower again?

[torpid ocean]

kelp and snow pine gonna come with secret friday

[stable roost]

oh, did you nerf kelp?

or was it luminescent kelp

[torpid ocean]

yea

both

[stable roost]

ok

[torpid ocean]

like 10%

[stable roost]

gotcha

[torpid ocean]

20

54>45

[stable roost]

wouldnt hurt to give flameslate a small buff too

like a teeny tiny one

[torpid ocean]

what are yalls optimized rates

[stable roost]

mmm lemme see

so i got like 6-7k with 2 trailers and like 8-9k with semi

mmm maybe it doesnt need a buff, lucky got like 10-11k optimized

[torpid ocean]

ya it seems alright

[stable roost]

hmmm lemme see what else...

mmmm with sapphire i was only able to get like 5k at most for optimized

but i think thats just cause of the awful spawn rate

so maybe like slightly increase the spawn rate for sapphire???

also if you want something easy to buff? quartz, because it is bad

[floral shard]

That magmite only tho

I would nerf magmite a little that buff flameslate

Then

[stable roost]

oh

no i think magmite should stay the same

[floral shard]

I did server hop a lot ig

[torpid ocean]

could increse spawnrate for that too

[floral shard]

I server hopped around 5-7 times per magmite only

[torpid ocean]

do you include loading time

[floral shard]

Yeppp

[torpid ocean]

dang

how long is that total do you think

[floral shard]

10 min?

My base is somewhat large

[stable roost]

bruh

hmmmm

[floral shard]

I did have a run where it was spawning oddly fast and I didn’t server hop at all lol

Regret not getting the potion for that one

Nvm 30 sec per hop

[stable roost]

sounda about right

[floral shard]

Just timed myself

[torpid ocean]

ok

its prob safe to increase spawnrate then

[stable roost]

ooo

yeah tbh

do the same for sapphire maybe

[torpid ocean]

yea

[stable roost]

and like, buff quartz

[floral shard]

ngl I never grinded saph before

[stable roost]

i barely got 1-2k optimized with that

[floral shard]

what ther rocks does quartz spawn in?

other

[upbeat monolith]

So I gotta hurry n grind it. Before Friday? lol

[torpid ocean]

what

no

wait till friday

[stable roost]

lava caves too but literally nobody is gonna get them there tbh

[torpid ocean]

then itll be better lol

[floral shard]

gotcha(was just worried about the 0.6x thing with anything in marble)

[stable roost]

mmm

either way quartz is mega buns

[upbeat monolith]

#1401596373681569945 next time you’re on come join

[floral shard]

clay is worth more than quartz per stud

[stable roost]

bro is literally doing signings rn

[torpid ocean]

https://www.roblox.com/games/9938675423?privateServerLinkCode=64319290701378232371579815792128

[upbeat monolith]

Rip I haven’t crashed in ages lol

[floral shard]

could server hopping blue steel be viable?

I remember there being a good spawn location for it or smth

[stable roost]

mmmmm

[lime kite]

I thought server hopping wasnt an intended mechanic

[stable roost]

it isnt, doesnt mean you cant do it

[floral shard]

I only really did it for chance-based ores and magmite

[lime kite]

that’s fair

[floral shard]

does greeb spawn in anything other than grimestone

[stable roost]

the unobtainable ore market

[upbeat monolith]

Damn crashed again 😦

[stable roost]

i HATE the unobtainable ore market

LMAO

whats funny is technically you could destroy it at any time

[torpid ocean]

add an area that spawns every possible rock and ore combination