MOB!!

[torpid ocean]

not publised

[floral shard]

aw

[floral shard]

I only got in 1 good plek run

[stable roost]

id say my plek runs are good

[floral shard]

(I've tried like 8 times by now but I keep rage quiting)

[lime kite]

how does the cap sell price work?

[stable roost]

i can do a few more tho if you want jak

[torpid ocean]

based on raw volume

[torpid ocean]

more trailers is better for sure

i think sanding doesnt really matter

[stable roost]

oh yeah def

[torpid ocean]

esp with the leaves not having collision anymore

[stable roost]

TRUE

well, sanding makes the logs skinnier

[floral shard]

I hated the leaf collision so much

[torpid ocean]

idk vro plek seems pretty balanced rn

[stable roost]

either way lemme do a run or 2 of plek

cause i got that data before leaf collision was removed

[floral shard]

plek is one of those fast resources; no need to properly stack and stuff

[torpid ocean]

i think im on the wrong sheet or something

[stable roost]

yeah true

[floral shard]

just my personal experience

[torpid ocean]

cannot find this

[torpid ocean]

yea u gotta just go fast for good rates

[stable roost]

at the very end

[torpid ocean]

ohh

thx

[stable roost]

cause i was gonna redo my tree data

but then got busy

[torpid ocean]

mayb ill buff ice pine a bit

idk

[stable roost]

wasnt it already buffed?

[floral shard]

why ice pine late game again?

i no understand this one

[stable roost]

kinda sucks to get to

[torpid ocean]

its kinda boring

[floral shard]

like no fun mechanic

[torpid ocean]

idk I really would like to have more fun mechanics yea

like most of the mats are kinda lame compared to mm

[floral shard]

boomite is so fun

[torpid ocean]

and boomite

[stable roost]

yeah boomite is epic

[torpid ocean]

BOOM

[stable roost]

i mean plek is kinda cool too

in terms of the path at least

[floral shard]

good scenery yeah

[stable roost]

idk plus you gotta try and not drown so

hmmm anyway ima get some plek data and then ill do mm

[floral shard]

best of luck🫡

[stable roost]

Plek Is Easy

skill issue'

plek is so silly

[torpid ocean]

fr

[stable roost]

i mean i coild be desensitized to plek cause i used to do magmite for a living

[upbeat monolith]

I think you’re right cause after the buff I sold a few caps and it didn’t seem worth it so I was just leaving them

Just did a quick magma tree run, ended up with 34 pieces , sold for 142k didn’t time it but the whole ordeal was roughly 20 minutes. I clipped my drive out of cave and process and sell and it was only 5 minutes. Don’t think I was chopping trees longer than 15

Market was at $191 +2%

Not sure if that’s any good

[floral shard]

did you do drop down strat?

[upbeat monolith]

Not sure what that is lol, I drove down chopped like 6 trees and sawed them tossed em in a semi and drove out

[floral shard]

so theres like a lil bowl on the left side of the cave in the lower half of the area

through the little tunnel

easy to drop magma trees down

and faster to access

[upbeat monolith]

Interesting

I shall try this later

[floral shard]

bring a basket the little lava flowers are rlly solid

[stable roost]

I think magma trees are balanced

[upbeat monolith]

I debated that aswell , cause really don’t need many tools

[upbeat monolith]

I wonder if they’d be worth storing and bulk selling when high

[stable roost]

Yeah probably

[floral shard]

auroacrest tools need more love

coolest questline in the game but only has one use case

[stable roost]

@torpid ocean im taking back what i said about plek, got a 10k/min optimized run for it, gonna see if i can push it

[upbeat monolith]

You sawing on the spot ?

[stable roost]

its not really necessary

sawing barely changes the size of the logs

[upbeat monolith]

Oh yeah they removed collision for the leaves

[stable roost]

yes

[torpid ocean]

Told you vro

It's gud

[stable roost]

plek 🗣️

ok so that means that we have magma, plek, raw adurite balanced so far i think

[floral shard]

and boomite

[stable roost]

is jak changing boomite to be late game?

ok

[floral shard]

I love you Jak❤️

[torpid ocean]

magmite

[stable roost]

oooo

[torpid ocean]

I would like magmite to be gud

[stable roost]

i can test that

i used to grind that as my money source

uhhh lemmem look at my old data

yeah so my old data with 1 trailer i was getting like 7-8k/min with both magmite and flameslate

[floral shard]

whats the route for it

left side or right side?

[stable roost]

so i can either grab only magmite, or i can grab both flameslate and magmite at the same tim

uhhhh right side

theres this one specific spot i park at thats perfect

ill try it with semi but idk if i can fit that thing in my usual spot

[tacit mountain]

will fish ever be good for cash or be like fruits are rn?

[stable roost]

time to get fire potions

[floral shard]

is this new?

[stable roost]

oh yeah i noticed that

cause when you interact with rocks and stuff they stay on the surface of the lava

[floral shard]

driving across lava like this is aura ngl

[reef oar]

Has anyone done a new run with the new andurite spawns?

[stable roost]

yes

still a good money source

yeah this seems fine

[torpid ocean]

Yes

wym fruits are rn !!

[tacit mountain]

didnt you kill fruits 😭 ?

[torpid ocean]

Oh

I read that wrong

[upbeat monolith]

Was andurite maybe dropped a bit too much? You not only need scaffolding but you need the belt pushing it into later mid game imo

[torpid ocean]

but yeah fishing will be like an actual method with proper progression and difficulty

[tacit mountain]

🙏

[stable roost]

It’s going down to like 8.5k/min

That’s perfectly fine

[torpid ocean]

I made it more like 9

[stable roost]

I see

[upbeat monolith]

Yeah that sounds fair

[stable roost]

Then yeah raw adurite is fine

[torpid ocean]

not that it really matters tho people are still gonna lose their minds seeing something was nerfed at all

[stable roost]

True

[torpid ocean]

😭

[stable roost]

I Need To Spread The Word

[upbeat monolith]

Would it make sense to display the “base price” on the board so people have an idea of where about it actually is

[tacit mountain]

green and red

[upbeat monolith]

It can be green but still under base price

[tacit mountain]

oh

[stable roost]

Yeah the percent change is based off the previous price

[torpid ocean]

everything is under base price

the values on stock market are .8 - 1 times the value of the coded 'base price'

[upbeat monolith]

Yes but to be able to see just how far cause looking at just green and red can be deceiving if you don’t know the base

[torpid ocean]

Yea I kinda wanna change how that displays

[stable roost]

Spreadsheet accounts for that

Wait did I read that wrong

[torpid ocean]

ik but it's misleading ingame

Like

It shows the % increase from previous price

[stable roost]

Yeah

[torpid ocean]

and not from base, which is what most people expect

[stable roost]

Would probably be better to have it based on the base

[torpid ocean]

And is a lot more useful

[stable roost]

Cause people keep saying sapphire was nerfed WHEN IT WASNT!!!!!

[tacit mountain]

make base 0.9 and market go from 0.8 to 1

[torpid ocean]

then I have to change every single value ;!!!!!

I would just display it like that

[tacit mountain]

no lol

[torpid ocean]

but the code is the same

[floral shard]

semi with fusion coil is like a fever dream

[torpid ocean]

What is going on here lol

[stable roost]

Fusion coil and anything is a fever dream

[stable roost]

Yeah we can drive on lava Jesus style

[torpid ocean]

why are you able to drive on lava 🙏😭

has this been a thing??

[stable roost]

Trees and rocks stay on lava too

[floral shard]

I have zero clue man

[torpid ocean]

yeah that's definitely wrong

[floral shard]

I think the semi might able to fly chat

I will test this later

[stable roost]

Jak what have you done

[torpid ocean]

just no matter what?

like it's not related to belt

[stable roost]

Mmmm I’d have to take off the obsidian belt to test that

[upbeat monolith]

Earlier today andurite was falling through , couple hours later I noticed a magma tree stayed on top and was a little baffled

[stable roost]

HAHA

[torpid ocean]

BRO

who did this

[stable roost]

blaming you

[upbeat monolith]

Do other vehicles drive on aswell?

[stable roost]

ill test with joop

[torpid ocean]

maybe I don't need to nerf adurite if you guys aren't losing any to lava

[upbeat monolith]

Or is this something to do with the semi collision ?

[upbeat monolith]

Lava fishing was so fun!

[torpid ocean]

Are they just on the surface

or at the bottom

[stable roost]

bottom

[torpid ocean]

o nvm then

[stable roost]

but the lava isnt deep

fish em out

[torpid ocean]

ye

fun

[stable roost]

however hangg on

[floral shard]

lord I love these semi bugs

this is so fun

[stable roost]

mewhehe

if you interact with it, it stays above

ok i can confirm

its a semi glitch

its hoofers fault

[tacit mountain]

FIRE HIM

[stable roost]

yeah exactly

[upbeat monolith]

Honestly it’s a whole new mechanic and reason to buy the belt !

And fire potions

[torpid ocean]

waddaheel

[stable roost]

LMAO

[upbeat monolith]

La la la lavvvaa fishing

[stable roost]

the semi lava thing will prolly be fixed tomorrow but the rocks and trees idk

[upbeat monolith]

I broke all this from above ofc

[stable roost]

cause tbh i think thats been happening for awhile

[upbeat monolith]

I think it has something to do with the semi collision cause earlier it was so hard to drive , I noticed a bit ago it was slightly easier

[stable roost]

yes

[upbeat monolith]

Didn’t think nothing of it until the Ss

But hoofer said in news fix would be pushed tomorrow

[floral shard]

Magmite + Flamslate is good

11k per min optimized but this is with semi on lava trick

whoever made this possible; you are amazing

[floral shard]

but this is still me being bad ngl; after this gets patched I think you can still hit 11k per min

used fire potion

[stable roost]

ima do it the normal way

[floral shard]

50 percent of adurite goes into the lava

[stable roost]

yeah but its easy to get out if you have grabber

[torpid ocean]

mm

[stable roost]

i can get more data for it

[torpid ocean]

Well could you still get it out even if they didn't sit on top

[torpid ocean]

I wouldn't grind with that method because it's likely gonna be patched soon

[stable roost]

i know i was able to

the lava in that area is shallow

[floral shard]

yeah but it was sick

[torpid ocean]

lol

[tacit mountain]

isnt that a reason to grind it even more

[stable roost]

the jesus tech

but yeah anyway lemme get some runs in for magmite/flameslate

[torpid ocean]

Well idc if you do it for money but I'm saying for the purpose of balancing the resources

[stable roost]

with a normal method

[tacit mountain]

no for the fun

[torpid ocean]

like that method is gonna be patched so its not helpful to have data of it

But by all means grind it lel

[stable roost]

i need some epic tunes since ill be in the magma caves

[torpid ocean]

want my playlilst

[stable roost]

LMAO sure

i have like multiple playlists

[torpid ocean]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl2Ue5wFTQ7Ae8FN2D-EUwj-tJCla9Urj&si=jnz8A_wGke14frkT

[stable roost]

MY BOY KEVIN

[torpid ocean]

put it on shuffle

it's no lyrics

[stable roost]

my playlists are epic

dont worry about the thumbnails

[torpid ocean]

Kevin MacLeod and then random video gaemusici like

lol

[stable roost]

the gamer music

[torpid ocean]

60% toby fox

[stable roost]

ok but toby fox is fire

[torpid ocean]

fr

[stable roost]

using my roulette playlists while grinding can be awful cause i can end up on one of the "roulette" songs and be unable to skip it

[torpid ocean]

Ya I hate Spotify for that

[stable roost]

we have mask by dream and then thirsty by ajr

[torpid ocean]

If you aren't using premium I wouldn't use it at all lmao

[stable roost]

oh i am using premium

i mean like i cant skip cause im doing a run or something

[torpid ocean]

Ohhhh

[stable roost]

so then i have to listen to like mask or something

keeps you on your toes

[torpid ocean]

mask by dream ?💀

[stable roost]

yes.

thats one of the "roulette" songs

if i hit it, i reshuffle

[floral shard]

the things floating on lava after interacting with it has been going on for like the past 2 weeks

[stable roost]

yes

[torpid ocean]

ah

this is strange

[stable roost]

i noticed it popped up with the map update

either that or the semi addition

[floral shard]

yeah one of the two

[tacit mountain]

it's prob the same reason item thrown while holding gravity coil are affected by it

[floral shard]

but then again this is like when I started grinding in magma cave for the first time in months

[upbeat monolith]

If you use a grabby yes

[upbeat monolith]

As seen here ^

[floral shard]

we need a lava fishing tutorial asap

[upbeat monolith]

Once the kids go to bed I may lol

Someone needs to record Lava chicken remix Lava Fishin’

[floral shard]

that would be fire

also oaklands RPG when: https://www.roblox.com/games/130192763309599/Hoofers-RPG-Indev

[upbeat monolith]

https://youtube.com/shorts/WXUU_S7t9Ok?si=JAqx-IKIEYgVHvo3

I did make this earlier today lol

[stable roost]

ok i think ill get magmite data tomorrow when hoofer pushes the semi fix, its impossible to turn once stuff is inside it

just lost a semi full of magmite and flameslate

[torpid ocean]

no guarentee thatl be tmr

but soon

[stable roost]

ohhh ok

yeah no the truck gets "stuck" in a turned state sometimes and thats a death sentence in the magma caves since its kinda tight

[torpid ocean]

oh that is fixed

the driving on lava thing idk

[stable roost]

hang on lemme show how it gets stuck sometimees

kinda like at this angle sometimes?

[torpid ocean]

ye thats fixed

[stable roost]

and then i just cant straighten out

[torpid ocean]

i believe

[stable roost]

oh when was it pushed

[torpid ocean]

tmr

lol

[stable roost]

ohhhh

ok thats what i was worried about

the lava driving thing ill just pretend thats not real

until then i think its mm time

or ill just do my usual sellner and trailer setup for magmite

btw people in chat earlier were talking about how they wish there was more like "rare" ores that you can get just because or something like that

could probably apply that to stuff like fungiviolet and palladium, since with those being chance based its kinda tough to use them as an actual grinding method without either server hopping or just waiting around

[torpid ocean]

idk

i never found trying to get rare ores very fun

[stable roost]

seems like something people want though

kinda like ig a rare "collectable" ore for each area

[digital aurora]

we need more luck based mining!!!!

finding mythril or adurite back when the game released was so fun

cuz of the cash boost

[topaz stirrup]

🙏

[oak stone]

What do you call a low investment? Money wise

I wish I didn’t read this comment after using 60 of them in a build 😂

[stoic sphinx]

how often do you put signals into them?

[oak stone]

When in use every 1 second

I have had it sometimes where a signal just doesn’t send but I always just thought maybe I’m stupid and broke something lol

[wind dock]

They are easy to hack too i heard

If someone finds what is the reciever code, they can hack and send their signals

[oak stone]

you are kidding me?!

this could be why some of the more basic ones didnt work randomly

[wind dock]

Idk, gustav told me, i was asking him to use that for slot machine but he said people can hack it and make themself winner

[fallen citrus]

put in a specific code

[floral shard]

I miss the stock market api thingy

[torpid ocean]

I think luckfire has been working on recoding the whole thing

because it would always go down when we had a lot of players

[floral shard]

15k per min boomite run

PRAISE BOOMITE

[floral shard]

17k per min optimized

also whats the pallidium spawn chance in the canyon?

[lime kite]

how 😭

also, why would you be saying that here

[floral shard]

cause I'm a balance person?

[lime kite]

I’m just confused as to why you’d want to make a grinding method worse

[floral shard]

oo magmite only is viable

very cool

[floral shard]

just helping Jak out

rn magmite, boomite, plek, magma, fungiviolet are all meta

raw greeb would be a cool addition ngl

[twin forge]

nooo why'd you tell them😠

[floral shard]

Time to test MM

[floral shard]

Thank you hoofer for the 2 second signing❤️

[floral shard]

@stoic sphinx
"Mysterious Mushroom Raw (5 -> 8) (Cap Sell Price Reduction)"
Its a reduction?

also 10k per min optimized selling caps only

[torpid ocean]

tf

[floral shard]

we love boomite

[stoic sphinx]

typo

[torpid ocean]

what r u doing

is it because you can rejoin

and they reset

[floral shard]

pallidium plus boomite mix rn

[tacit mountain]

he's booming the mite

[floral shard]

you can mine boomite surprisingly fast

7 min to fill a semi

[torpid ocean]

hmm

[floral shard]

pallidium when initially going down

combined around 180k per semi

[torpid ocean]

i think

im going to change terracotta

harder to mine

and requires refined

or steel

idk

im p sure its the same hardness as like lightslate

[floral shard]

3 max gleam hits for largest pieces

so about 20 sec to destory a node

[torpid ocean]

mm

that seems wrong

lol

[floral shard]

am I mathing wrong

how long is charge

[torpid ocean]

it is the same hardness as lighslate

idk

[floral shard]

wat does this meannn

[torpid ocean]

i dont think lightslate takes that long to get a node tho

like

[floral shard]

terracotas huge

[torpid ocean]

amount of hits

[floral shard]

its very large

[torpid ocean]

idk

[floral shard]

much larger than max size lightslate

[torpid ocean]

you saying like the whole node or individual peices

because its the pieces that matter

it takes the volume of a piece times some constant to determine hit amount

[left wave]

vro how did you do that

[floral shard]

individual pieces

srry in the middle of doing shrooms

[left wave]

i didnt farm boomite that much, but the last time i farm boomite, it only took me 12-13 mins to travel n farm (excluding processing time and selling) and i only got like 7k per min

did it with a full sellner and a full trailer too

the fact that boomite get nerfed more is crazy

[torpid ocean]

vro

[left wave]

seriously though, if the balancing is only based on 1 person testing without clear data, then it's crazy. not all people are able to farm that fast

[torpid ocean]

i dont really wanna nerf it more

i wanna nerf the method which allows you to get like 15k/min

uhg

[floral shard]

wat I record my data in a spreadsheet

[torpid ocean]

well 1 data point still isnt great

[floral shard]

nvm typed in the wrong number

its 6k per min

[torpid ocean]

exactly

xd

[floral shard]

sorry about that

[left wave]

do you record it with video as well

[torpid ocean]

not saying you did wrong number for the other one

but it could have been a fluke

idk

id like to see if cosmic can get similar rates

[floral shard]

8.6k per min on 2nd run

[torpid ocean]

for which

[floral shard]

for boomite might've been fluke since I got lucky with pallidium

[torpid ocean]

mm?

[floral shard]

caps only

gonna test stems plus caps now

[torpid ocean]

epic

[torpid ocean]

ya that is possible

[left wave]

vro

if that's the case, then the one should be nerfed is palladium, not boomite

[floral shard]

if one pallidium node spawns thats + 30k right there

prolly more

its just that terracota is gigantic

[left wave]

i thought you did it with boomite only ngl, didn't know you include the palladium. i know you should get both for more money but it should've been mentioned earlier

[floral shard]

if you cut the size of terracota by 1/3 I think it would be fine

[floral shard]

I'm mostly just trying to break the game🙃

[torpid ocean]

they did

[floral shard]

most money per min

[torpid ocean]

are you using the split resource one

[floral shard]

no but either way that would only increase my rates

cause pallidium > boomite

[torpid ocean]

wdym

like

the sheet for multiple resources

[floral shard]

yeah

at least I think thats how the logic works

[torpid ocean]

so you can see how much of it is from each resource

[left wave]

sorry, the only one i saw was "boomite run" and "PRAISE BOOMITE". it didn't include the palladium

[floral shard]

I put it in the run's notes just btw

[floral shard]

nvm this is not how the logic works it would decrease the rate

[torpid ocean]

the rate would be the same

[left wave]

may i see the note? it is my mistake for not seeing it then

[torpid ocean]

it just takes the rates from each material seperately

im talking abt this

[floral shard]

its the by stud thing; I have less studs of pallidium which is worth a crap ton more than boomite the sheet thinks I have a lot more boomite than I actully do; the percentage market price increase would have a larger effect changing the result

[torpid ocean]

thats why you should use this

you can put in market values seperate

for each thing

oh i see what you meanb

i think

idk the high rate thing doesnt really work if you are doing 2 resources on the normal sheet

palladium is def the issue

should try grinding it alone

[floral shard]

pallidium?

[torpid ocean]

ya

[floral shard]

iirc its was 6.5k after you nerfed spawn rates

don't trust my memory tho

[torpid ocean]

maybe i just move palladium spawns away from boomite lol

[floral shard]

smart

[floral shard]

I usually do send these notes here sorry

[left wave]

hmm but you didn't split the data per resource type right?

[torpid ocean]

that only would effect high and low rate

the actual rate is still high

[left wave]

I might be not understanding some things here, what exactly are low rate and high rate? is it when the price stock market on the lowest and the highest rate?

[floral shard]

9k per min optimized stems plus caps

[floral shard]

stonks range from 0.8 - 1 times the base price

highest is just base price

[left wave]

ohh

i get it now

[floral shard]

added run 3's in the corresponding tables

sold seperately

[left wave]

Ok, what i was trying to say is, the data should be spilitted eitherway so you know exactly what makes a run so good and which material needs a change. Mixing the data can cause confusion and misunderstanding

changing material A when it's should be material B

[torpid ocean]

W

[left wave]

doesnt matter the market price changes

[floral shard]

is lava fishing an intended feature now?

its only seems to work in that adurite area

[torpid ocean]

not them floating on top

[floral shard]

they fall after 4 seconds or so

then yk you can hook them back up again

[torpid ocean]

i think its prolly fine

[floral shard]

Lavafishing is saved❤️

[lime kite]

[floral shard]

is marble like less dense than other rocks? I mine enough to fill 2 trailers and a sellner and its worth 40k less than boomite of the same amount or 80k less than adurite of the same amount even tho its worth more than boomite and around the same as adurite

rosa sells for 100k

also around 7k per min optimized for rosa

[twin forge]

does participating in this provide any sort or reward?

[torpid ocean]

idk what you mean by dense but it's the same hit amount

[floral shard]

more volume ig

like stud mass

like the caps are supercondensed raw stems so

[torpid ocean]

i dont beleive so

althought ive never seen this before lol

[floral shard]

is that just for marble or rosa or sum

no understand code

[torpid ocean]

its for a bunch

idrk what it does

[floral shard]

😕

[torpid ocean]

seems like it changes the volume

for calculating price

thats weird

idk why this exists

[floral shard]

diffrent for other mats?

[torpid ocean]

the mats that have it, which are just these, seem to all have 0.6 for it

i dont understand why this is a thing tho you could just change the price

[floral shard]

slippery?

they're all slippery

[torpid ocean]

are they

i dont think lavaslate it slippery

[floral shard]

yeah nvm

[torpid ocean]

and thats handled with different function

[floral shard]

ice is ice pine right?

[torpid ocean]

they are all rocks

[floral shard]

wats ice

[torpid ocean]

a rock

ice

it spawns in snow biome

[floral shard]

icestone>ice?

[torpid ocean]

yea i think so

no

its just ice

[floral shard]

ice = icestone?

[torpid ocean]

icestone = blue ice

ice = ice

[floral shard]

ohh ic

wats the value multi for forge and refinery

also you have the mat value table labled as refined values

should be forged I think

[floral shard]

ohhh these rocks decrease in mass when processed

stud volume

test auroa compared to blueclay

blue clay same auroa go down

this makes so much sense; why greeb and uranium feels so weak compared to the stud price

if this was fixed for greeb and uranium it would be 15k per min🙃
13k per min for rosa

this would be a good change

[stable roost]

Hello gang

[floral shard]

cosmic could you double check my math for this

[stable roost]

Forrr what I’m still reading up there’s a lot

[floral shard]

real

[floral shard]

for these mats

compared to other rock mats

when processed does the mass increase or deccrease for each respectively

[stable roost]

Lemme see cause I do kinda understand code

Wtf that’s interesting

Also lmao I like how someone earlier said it’s based on one person as if I’m not also here

Also @floral shard 17k boomite run?

[floral shard]

idk I think i got absurdly lucky with pallidium

did boomite plus pallidium

[stable roost]

Oh

Ideally when testing you only grab the material you’re testing

It throws everything off otherwise

[floral shard]

ik ik I got greedy

free money🤑

[stable roost]

I got some catching up to do

[lime kite]

isnt the boomite timer only 10 minutes?

idk i never grinded it

[floral shard]

yeah I did pallidium before mining any of the boomite

[tacit mountain]

palla is 100% luck based

[stable roost]

Making myself some lunch and then ima get some boomite data

[floral shard]

yeah thats why we put it under chance based ores

[twin forge]

@floral shard then why do yall do it without sum reward? why not abuse the money methods urself and keep quiet about it?

[stable roost]

Because we want the game to be enjoyable for everyone?

[lime kite]

how are those two things related?

[stable roost]

bro i dont believe in gatekeeping

[lime kite]

fair enough

[torpid ocean]

It's bad for the Oakland economy !!

[stable roost]

this is true

[torpid ocean]

someone should try to track the inflating of oakbucks

[stable roost]

hmmmmm

[torpid ocean]

you would need to define a fixed basket of goods

maybe like

idk

it would be hard to do lol

maybe impossible

[stable roost]

yeah due to the player run market

unless youre talking about like ingame shop items

[torpid ocean]

like I would say something like the average cost a player charges for something over time

[tacit mountain]

keep track of rare sellner price

best representation

[torpid ocean]

like creating an unloader for example

[torpid ocean]

Limited items would not work

or seasonal

[tacit mountain]

rare sellners arent limited

[torpid ocean]

idk why I thought you said rc sellner

hmm

maybe

[tacit mountain]

but consider the sellner as currency tho

or it would be opposite

[torpid ocean]

Idk, i think it's value has also changed due to an increasing amount of them in circulation

And their value is relatively fixed around the avg price it takes to get them

[tacit mountain]

i think that's proportional to cash in circulation

[torpid ocean]

Which doesn't change

[tacit mountain]

ohhh maybe keep track of the price of lumite item

[torpid ocean]

That's a good idea

[tacit mountain]

since the time to get them is pretty much fixed

[torpid ocean]

honestly the best type of thing to base it off of

quest items might be better

[stable roost]

Yeah

[torpid ocean]

Although I think those sit around a pretty low price

[tacit mountain]

same issue as sellner i think

also them being current meta or not

like emberbane

[torpid ocean]

true

[stable roost]

Yeah and with the lumite stuff not a lot of people are selling it from what I’ve seen

[tacit mountain]

scuba is very high demand

[stable roost]

Yeah but I think low supply

[torpid ocean]

o ya

[stable roost]

Cause nobody wanna grind 150 lumite credits

[tacit mountain]

honestly WMI items even if they are limiteds are pretty acurate

[torpid ocean]

I would disagree

[tacit mountain]

they went limited immediatly

[tacit mountain]

25 mil gramo was a thing in 2023

[torpid ocean]

I think the value increasing substantially is more in part due to the fact that you can't shark them off people anymore

and there's way less in circulation

They've been traded around a ton

[stable roost]

True

[tacit mountain]

Frumpy's Unloader build cost 🗿

i see like one guy ask / day

[stable roost]

[torpid ocean]

scuba seems like a pretty good one

[stable roost]

Yeah probably, but I don’t think there’s too many in circulation market wise

[torpid ocean]

now just someone get every sell price over the past year

[stable roost]

Cause again nobody wants to go through that effort

Oh god

[tacit mountain]

are oakmarket post even archived?

[torpid ocean]

should be

idrk

[stable roost]

Yeah I see a lot of people ask for refined scuba

[torpid ocean]

this is the only case where a value list would be useful

[stable roost]

Yyyes

[torpid ocean]

lol

[stable roost]

The price of scuba gear from what very little I’ve seen is basically like “how much effort it took” or something like that

So usually it’s like in the hundred thousands

[torpid ocean]

yea

[stable roost]

Tis why nobody goes for plek

[torpid ocean]

And the effort is something that should be staying relatively constant

although it probably hasnt

[stable roost]

Eh depends on your luck

Like if you get lucky and keep getting the like “arc” veins then you get a lot more credits

[tacit mountain]

that still averages out at some point

[stable roost]

Yeah true

[torpid ocean]

I have access to average wallet balance over time

[stable roost]

Nice

[torpid ocean]

But I don't think that really shows inflation

[stable roost]

Yeah probably not

[tacit mountain]

average of all players or total of all players?

[torpid ocean]

average

[tacit mountain]

isnt that heavily impacted by new player joining

[torpid ocean]

yes

[stable roost]

Wait what is the average wallet balance rn im curious

[tacit mountain]

i bet on 250k

[torpid ocean]

lemme see

[stable roost]

Ik the only place where prices are rising is like the gift market but that’s a whole different situation

[torpid ocean]

I think like an average wallet balance after 1 month of playing might've better

[torpid ocean]

Cost of services isn't ?

[stable roost]

Oh well I don’t know much about that market

[torpid ocean]

Gift prices will rise just because they are limited

[stable roost]

Yeah like the 2023 ones are awful rn

Oh god

The unobtainable ore market

I know how much you LOVE that market

[floral shard]

as a trader gift prices are crazy

I have zero clue when to sell or keep

or buy

why did 2023 gifts triple in price

I will never know

[stable roost]

Update from what little I’m finding about the refined scooba highest was like 500k and rn it’s at like 400k?

[stable roost]

Cause they getting older

And plus less and less are in circulation

[floral shard]

it was in a matter of weekssss

[torpid ocean]

Keep gift forever

[floral shard]

they were stable for yearrrrssss

[torpid ocean]

Avg wallet is like 130k rn

[floral shard]

I DON"T UNDERSTAND

[stable roost]

Dude it was literally after I bought all the ones I needed too

[stable roost]

BROKE

[floral shard]

account for christmas alts fr

they take up 90% of oaklands

[stable roost]

I think it does

[torpid ocean]

and even using the graph I can't tell how much it increased overtime because it's just based on number of new players
When we have lot of new people it drops like crazy , then goes up, ect

[stable roost]

Yeah

[torpid ocean]

it's like an inverse graph of the new players one lmao

[stable roost]

Yeah I think the only markets that are unstable are the like limited markets, from what I’m seeing the scuba remains stable

[floral shard]

also why we talking about this?

[torpid ocean]

idk

[stable roost]

Why not

Get your Oaklands economy degree

[floral shard]

i already have one!

[stable roost]

alright, time for me to get some data for boomite and mushroom

unless roblox doesnt behave cause i think the servers are dying again

[floral shard]

roblox has been breaking for me for the last couple days

start after the GAG update

🤔

[stable roost]

yeah

[upbeat monolith]

Scuba gleam and nvg I noticed demand comes and goes in waves , as new players stick around they want them demand goes up then cools off, sometimes people create multiple saves and buy extras but yeah very up and down

[stable roost]

@torpid ocean youre spot on with the boomite nerf, at least according to this one run i did with 2 trailers and sellner

[torpid ocean]

W

[stable roost]

dude i completely forgot about the hatch event

[tacit mountain]

Roblox's requirement for it are so limiting it's sad 🥀

[stable roost]

i aint gonna touch it

[tacit mountain]

atleast do the oakland part

[stable roost]

well yeah ima do that but otherwise

[tacit mountain]

even the official announce image looks ai generated

[gray prism]

What's the likelihood that Adurite would be added back to Mike's mines? It had a similar rate to its new location in the magma caves

[torpid ocean]

none

this is alot more accesible while still being similar in rate

which is exactly what i wanted

[tacit mountain]

used to be 15k$/min

[gray prism]

but by removing it, you're limiting the amount of ways that the game can be played?

yeah it definitely needed a rework in terms of spawn rate

[tacit mountain]

he didnt remove

just move

same mechanic different spot

[gray prism]

***removed from one location is what I meant

tbh I'm just not a big fan of lava fishing

[tacit mountain]

this isnt intended

[gray prism]

what's intended?

[tacit mountain]

ore shouldnt float on lava like that

[gray prism]

oh no it sinks for me its just annoying getting it back up cus u can't rlly aim and look under the lava at the same time

[torpid ocean]

ya hopefully that can be fixed soon

[gray prism]

I got no issue with it being in magma caves I just think that it limits how many ways the game can be played if there's only one way to approach a task

[lime kite]

are you suppoed to get it from under the lava? because the grabber just gets stuck on the lava

(for me at least)

[stable roost]

ive had zero issues with grabbing the adurite from under the lava

it kinda like shoots up to the top when you grab it

[lime kite]

dang

i just used an autoclicker to do it

[stable roost]

@torpid ocean you got any plans to buff uranium at all? With the data that I have for uranium the money per min for it is not the greatest considering the amount of time needed

Plus buffing that a bit would probably make people less mad…

[arctic flare]

Lets nerf everything and buff windswept pine so its better then anything

[floral shard]

Also Jak any plans to fix this? these specific rocks get their volume/price multiplied by 0.6; (mostly just concerned about builders)

[floral shard]

Also a good measure for inflation could be gurt oakpiece, dropped from 1 mil or so to 400k; over yk the past 2 years
Lumite items crashed after the new ore gen and have stayed stable since then

[floral shard]

23k per min optimized meteor

[late harness]

.

[upbeat monolith]

I think healing just needs to be buffed , increase the healing rate of the healing coil

[low moon]

that causes problems in other farms in pretty sure

[upbeat monolith]

A buffed heal coil?

[floral shard]

yeah shrooms are hard rn

at least that one part of the cave is

100 shrooms attacking you at once is so fun

tbh I think thats the only one that would have a problem with heal coil buff ngl

[upbeat monolith]

Rad potions

[low moon]

i still think its just not a fun fix half the prob with uranium is its soooo boring it needs a rework like jak said he wants to do

imo it should be something based on combat to make it diffrent from the rest and fit acidlands

[torpid ocean]

Yes but I wanna rework it

[floral shard]

raw mythril 9k per min optimized

I love my new processor❤️

[floral shard]

ah shoot mythril is still broken(12.5k per min)

[stable roost]

What do you mean

[lime kite]

wdym optimized

[stable roost]

Optimized uses a different processing time

[floral shard]

just highest price combined with optimal processing

[floral shard]

mythril is so easy too

[stable roost]

And you’re grabbing JUST mythril right?

[floral shard]

yeah

raw mythril

[stable roost]

Ok I test

[floral shard]

selnner plus two trailer

yk the route right

[stable roost]

yes

[floral shard]

its just a fast 7 and a half min run

[torpid ocean]

It's like theoretical maximum rate
It shouldnt be more than like 1-2k over whatever limit I have on the material

[stable roost]

i think jak wanted mythril to be like 10k per min lemme check'

[floral shard]

it really shouldn't be its easy af

[torpid ocean]

myth was lower

[stable roost]

or maybe not nvm

[floral shard]

like brain ded easy

[stable roost]

yeah lemme get some data for it

[torpid ocean]

9k optimized seems fine

[floral shard]

on par with MM really?

[stable roost]

watch im gonna get a good run while being dead tired

[floral shard]

also fyi I did not get lucky with spawns; like 60% of the mythril I saw I couldn't mine

also cool new red button location

very mysterious

[twin forge]

bro I just discovered this and now ur getting it nerfed

[floral shard]

great minds think alike

also is the magma cave not requiring a explody wall intentional?

[torpid ocean]

mm shud be higher

[stable roost]

eh i got a 9-10k run with mythril but thats cause i was able to get way more than lucky did

so it took me longer

[upbeat monolith]

Everything getting “balanced”

[upbeat monolith]

Would love to know it aswell lol

[floral shard]

just both ways to get to the wooden platforms hanging on the roof

Just use the wooden supports

[upbeat monolith]

Ah ok thought so , wasn’t sure if there was an easier way up lol

[upbeat monolith]

But why with these spawns

There’s like 6 nodes that spawned over there and only 2 spawned near the platforms that were reachable

[floral shard]

I think vines but yeah its luck based

gleam is best

[upbeat monolith]

Oh right 🤦 forgot you can climb those lol

[upbeat monolith]

#1337177575612612649 message

can someone edit this so it’s in alphabetical order it’s so hard to read lol

[junior tulip]

Jak (@j_ak)

Material Values !
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aqkW_KoE-w0_GPUU86rM0WtCyKu5_D5jqAtMZ5vbrlk/edit?usp=drivesdk

🥚Typical Developers - MOB!! · Jun 30, 2025, 3:50 PM

[coral mantle]

i can do it for money

hehehehe

[stable roost]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16hIzz4pQVahB4n1Uqq9COuff8dy1nYv1frPW7tm6gEY/edit?usp=sharing

there you go

@torpid ocean you mind pinning this one instead? its much easier to read since its in alphabetical order

[upbeat monolith]

Tysm!

[stable roost]

google docs had a very useful sort feature

[upbeat monolith]

I’ve decided to make it a “decal” and put it on my farm plot

[stable roost]

so it took me like a min

big

[torpid ocean]

Sure

[stable roost]

epic ty

[floral shard]

@stable roost do you have a good jamming set-up?

apparently lavender is good but I don't have a good set-up for making a lot of dyes

(I also just find grinding foragebles boring

[floral shard]

MM is surprisingly balanced now

9.5k per min optimized

[upbeat monolith]

8 baskets + fusion coil + eggcar/classic joop + lavender = $$$$

[stable roost]

Ye

[floral shard]

can ya test lavender

[stable roost]

Ok

[upbeat monolith]

I’m wondering if it should be based off gathering speed not the entire process

As different setups can change the speed drastically

In 5:30 I was able to collect and empty 8 baskets

[stable roost]

That’s what the optimized table is for

[upbeat monolith]

120lavender

I had to stop the recording cause I messed up and teleported back and respawned the truck instead of bringing the jars back lol

At 0:44 is when I move to the jam setup

[floral shard]

that much is like 70k?

[upbeat monolith]

Not 100% sure I didn’t see what 1 sells for . But also keep in mind I play on mobile so you may have a better run on something else

[lime kite]

why leak your own method? you do realize its going to get nerfed, right?

[stable roost]

Fruits and flowers aren’t supposed to be a viable money method

[lime kite]

not my method, not my problem 🤷‍♂️

[upbeat monolith]

The whole point of this oak space is to test things so the dev team can make adjustments and make a balanced game

[stable roost]

yeah i got like 12k optimized for lavender

[floral shard]

its 400$ jarred right?

[stable roost]

yes

[floral shard]

did you do baskets or...

[stable roost]

yeah baskets

its just quicker

[floral shard]

gotcha

[oak stone]

lol are you sure you test correctly

[stable roost]

do it yourself then

[oak stone]

Im the one that strted it

ive also easily farmed it the most

i just have to ask thats all

what is optimized?
How longs the run? total time including farm travel and processing?

[stable roost]

just used baskets

[oak stone]

these are unreleastic runs

thats super fast run....

[stable roost]

bro how

yeah cause lavender spawns everywhere and then you just reset with baskets

[oak stone]

over a period of time you wouldnt uphold that rate

i know it does lol

idk i just have to question as your data is being used and things are being nerfed ect - to me thats an unrealistic run

[stable roost]

this was just a hypothetical thing

plus, if youre worried about that, you can also give some data

i have lucky's data backing up mine for a lot of stuff

[oak stone]

its ok for me to question it as its being used.

[stable roost]

bruh im not saying youre not allowed to

im just saying if youre worried you can provide more data since its literally just 2 people rn

would give more fact checking

[oak stone]

no worries - Also I just have to say I hope everything isnt being nerfed from aan "Optimized time" or adjusted rather than nerfed sorry

[stable roost]

well the goal is to get stuff down to like 10k/min

[oak stone]

Oh i understand the goals and I root for it - I want there to be more than 1 thing to farm

[stable roost]

oh there already kinda is with like plek and magma for example

boomite too

the rest is getting there

[oak stone]

BUT - "Optimized" for fruiting / jamming doesnt work too well just for the fact it does take so long to process ect

[stable roost]

not if you have a big setup like me

[oak stone]

right ok

took you 3 mins 30 seconds to jam those

[stable roost]

yeah cause my machine has like 15 machines in it

[oak stone]

so my point exactly

Optimized time is for 1 minute no one is hitting that time

with 15 machines also i can do twice what you processed....

in less time - and no one is hitting optimized times of 1 minute

idk i just think it needs to be reevaluated basing it off optimized times but more of trying to find a realistic time

[stable roost]

youd have to tell that to jak, i just get the data

@torpid ocean are you basing the balancing purely off of optimized time?

[oak stone]

Sorry i hope im not coming across as a ******

[stable roost]

actually if i remember correctly i think jak said he doesnt want stuff surpassing a certain point, so using the optimized rate as a baseline kinda accounts for those like weird outliers

[torpid ocean]

no

kinda but not rlly

it's like the optimized shouldn't be much over 1-2k the intended

So a 12k optimized lavender is probably fine

[floral shard]

what is lavender intended to be?

[torpid ocean]

o wait ur right

[floral shard]

also to this just server hop no? these thing respawn real fast

[torpid ocean]

I think I said fruits shouldn't be over like 8k /min

[floral shard]

server hop is like 20 sec max

[torpid ocean]

are you adding that to your time

[floral shard]

cosmic didn't need to

its just like one run doesn't require it

[torpid ocean]

oh

[floral shard]

but multiple in same server does

[torpid ocean]

well the issue was processing time

[floral shard]

dyes can be processed really fast if you have enough jars and machines

[torpid ocean]

how fast tho

[floral shard]

0.5 fast

[torpid ocean]

I thought cosmic had a decent setup

[floral shard]

maybe more if u have a crap ton of machines

tbh it would take a really long time grinding to make back the investment

maybe 40 min

not that long but this is at 12k per min

[torpid ocean]

3.5 minutes > 30 seconds is 7x faster

looking at cosmics run

[floral shard]

I think its theoreticaly possible because the only limit is the amount of machines you have

before I destroyed my processor I was doing it in like 1 min 20 or so

this was when pears were broken

@stable roost Tupi’s set up or smth different?

NVM

I take back everything I said

I forgot that you have to response the fruits into the machine which takes a minute

[torpid ocean]

So we should adjust optimized time to like a minute or something

For fruits

[floral shard]

I think 1.5

[torpid ocean]

That's fine too

[floral shard]

So 9.5k optimized now

[torpid ocean]

Is 30 seconds realistic for wood & rocks/ores

[floral shard]

Yeah defo

[torpid ocean]

Alr

[upbeat monolith]

My setup is pretty good:/ lol

I think it was like 7ish minutes to gather empty and jar 120 lavender

[floral shard]

You’re mobile tho

Ngl impressive lol

[upbeat monolith]

lol

[stable roost]

Eh my machine malfunctioned cause some jars were missing from it

But yeah idk you do whatever man I just get the data

[torpid ocean]

ya no worries jus put like 1.5 for optomized on fruits

[stable roost]

got it

also im about to do magmite runs, but ima just do sellner and 2 trailers

since i think that can hold around the same amount as semi can

and with the semi being kinda broken it makes it near impossible to make sharp turns

[floral shard]

Can you make this part a lil wider so I can get a semi to magmite more easily

it can fit but 9/10 times I get jammed

[stable roost]

this dude has tips enabled

[floral shard]

I need my tips

I am not good enough without em

[stable roost]

noob vs pro who wins

the noob triumphs

anyway yeah until the semi is fully fixed be careful with turning

[floral shard]

area of reference

[stable roost]

mine got stuck and i fell in laval

[floral shard]

turnings fine imo but its just this spot that gives me night mares

lost like 400k worth of magmite once😭

[stable roost]

yeah

[floral shard]

ruined a 40 min long run

[stable roost]

my semi just always gets stuck on itself so

hang on lemme show me spot

welcome to my spot

keeps stuff nice and heated

actually lemme rq do a test drive with semi and see if i can maybe clutch

[floral shard]

do you take the magma waterfall route?

in the back of the image

[stable roost]

yyyyes

[floral shard]

ohh

[stable roost]

hang on let me record it actually

my epic magmite route

i think in the vidoe you can sometimes see my semi get "stuck" in a turned state

[floral shard]

ur route so much easier😭

[stable roost]

dude its epic

[floral shard]

gonna attempt next time

[stable roost]

yes

in terms of getting back, i havent really done that but ik its possible

no turning around required

[floral shard]

just drive backward slowly right

[stable roost]

oh hell no

[floral shard]

trust in the semi

slowly inch backward

[stable roost]

hang on lemme bring these potions back and see if i can record the route back i planned out

ok yeah maybe backing up is fine

idk the semi is just really hard to control rn

which is why im opting to use sellner and trailers

[coral mantle]

UHH where are the averages for the ores? does anybody know

like can somebody point me in the right direction cause im confused

@stable roost 🙏

[upbeat monolith]

There is a pin messaged that has the “max/base” value

[coral mantle]

which one is the average like sapphire has a average price of 2300

[lime kite]

are there any plans to make harder metas like magmite/boomite higher than 600k?

[stable roost]

Prolly not, magmite still hasn’t been balanced tho

[upbeat monolith]

So sapp Max/Base value is 300$ per unit

[coral mantle]

yea ik dat but whats the average price for it like

[upbeat monolith]

I have this setup so I can check the values before selling

[upbeat monolith]

I don’t know how the market rate changes work so it’s hard to tell what an “average” is but someone else might know

[coral mantle]

alr

[tacit mountain]

nerfs are your worst ennemy 🥀

[upbeat monolith]

Nah I don’t mind

Quick screentshot , copy n paste

[tacit mountain]

from where?

[upbeat monolith]

#1337177575612612649 message

[junior tulip]

lmao (@c0smicviolet)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16hIzz4pQVahB4n1Uqq9COuff8dy1nYv1frPW7tm6gEY/edit?usp=sharing

🥚Typical Developers - MOB!! · Jul 5, 2025, 11:00 PM

[tacit mountain]

ah ok

[upbeat monolith]

One thing that’s outdated on it is andurite I believe

[tacit mountain]

would be nice to use billboards to display values and change them easily

[upbeat monolith]

Yeah it’s Max is like 180 or something

[upbeat monolith]

Would be nice if they added a way to build a stock screen on your personal plot

[upbeat monolith]

This sounds wild I ain’t that logic smart haha

[tacit mountain]

just a big block of and gates and relays

and memory cell