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wind dock Apr 3, 2025, 12:25 PM

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I said decrease the rarity meaning making something like 1/125 or 1/150

hard lark Apr 3, 2025, 12:26 PM

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wind dock I said decrease the rarity meaning making something like 1/125 or 1/150

Oh I misread it lol

wind dock Apr 3, 2025, 12:26 PM

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hard lark Oh I misread it lol

How rare is mag by the way?

hard lark Apr 3, 2025, 12:28 PM

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wind dock How rare is mag by the way?

like 1/1k I think (stupidly rare)

wind dock Apr 3, 2025, 12:29 PM

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hard lark like 1/1k I think (stupidly rare)

So it only spawns at night, and rarity is 1 in 1k. But i heard it was common in caves?

hard lark Apr 3, 2025, 12:30 PM

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wind dock So it only spawns at night, and rarity is 1 in 1k. But i heard it was common in ...

In caves it spawns often at night because caves are overfilled with lightslate that it can spawn in

torpid ocean Apr 3, 2025, 1:15 PM

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PLANKED VALUES
birch: 20.02
oak: 15.40
palm: 24.79
spruce: 22.02
snow: 30.80
olivewood: 31.68
willow: 41.80
electrified: 100.10
candy_cane: 24.79
petrified_oak: 26.80
bamboo: 38.50
classic: 20.02
sakura: 24.64
wanwood: 20.02
deadwood: 38.50
cactus: 33.65
red_mushroom: 38.50
purple_mushroom: 38.50
green_mushroom: 38.50
blue_mushroom: 38.50
mystery_mushroom: 114.13
purple_cactus: 36.96
clover_ferwater_tree: 23.10
clover_finlay_tree: 23.10
redwood: 15.02
red_cactus: 31.90
red_maple: 14.55
king_palm: 7.70
magma_tree: 165.00
classic_cactus: 32.34
classic_purple_cactus: 40.04
kelp: 59.40
oobmab: 59.40
dead_magma_tree: 31.90
bone: 17.60
hallow: 35.20
weeping_willow: 3.58
electrified_bamboo: 86.62
plek: 177.32
blue_pine: 24.02
acacia: 24.64
clover_olivine_tree: 23.10
clover_frisply_tree: 23.10
clover_tundra_tree: 23.10
admin: 220000.00
queen_palm: 15.40
baobab: 11.00
eel_kelp: 133.65
corrupt: 2.20
corrupted_cactus: 25.30
corrupted_deadwood: 16.50
corrupted_acacia: 13.20
boreal: 176.00
arctic_kelp: 96.80
pine: 31.68
dead_magma_tree: 1.10
sequoia: 7.70
snow: 88.00
spearmint_candy_cane: 24.79
windswept_pine: 24.02
clover_friva_tree: 23.10
clover_gold_tree: 49.50
rainbow_tree: 15.40

torpid ocean Apr 3, 2025, 1:15 PM

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torpid ocean PLANKED VALUES birch: 20.02 oak: 15.40 palm: 24.79 spruce: 22.02 snow: 30.80 ol...

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im gonna get rocks and ores later

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chat gpt is stinky at coding rn

hard lark Apr 3, 2025, 1:29 PM

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torpid ocean PLANKED VALUES birch: 20.02 oak: 15.40 palm: 24.79 spruce: 22.02 snow: 30.80 ol...

Are these values final or are there still gonna be some changes to them?

torpid ocean Apr 3, 2025, 1:32 PM

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there will be changes after this balacing update

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but this is current

hard lark Apr 3, 2025, 1:38 PM

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torpid ocean but this is current

chinathumb

agile kite Apr 3, 2025, 2:42 PM

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I'd say def buff flamslate and uranium cuz they're too much effort per money

torpid ocean Apr 3, 2025, 2:43 PM

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stable roost Apr 3, 2025, 3:26 PM

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Oh yeah, @torpid ocean I gathered some data on sequoia and I think I can see why newbies grind it

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It’s decent-ish quick cash

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It’s at the bottom of the mid game trees sheet

stable roost Apr 3, 2025, 4:09 PM

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oh wait theres 2 snow tree values in here, which one is for ice pine? is it the 88.0 value or the 30.80 value

stable roost Apr 3, 2025, 4:31 PM

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another tiny update on sheet structuring (cant grind rn cause im in lecture), i put fungiviolet and palladium in a seperate sheet called "chance based ores" cause tbh i feel like they wont have as much grindability, but technically can be if you server hop or get lucky ig

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that or if you just mine every rock nearby and wait for spawns

torpid ocean Apr 3, 2025, 5:09 PM

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stable roost oh wait theres 2 snow tree values in here, which one is for ice pine? is it the ...

88

stable roost Apr 3, 2025, 5:09 PM

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ok cool

torpid ocean Apr 3, 2025, 5:09 PM

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other one is the old value

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for trees pre icelands revamp

stable roost Apr 3, 2025, 5:09 PM

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gotcha

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im having fun gathering data for this, im grinding trees ive never grinded before

coral mantle Apr 3, 2025, 5:55 PM

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Ye hawee

solemn thorn Apr 3, 2025, 9:45 PM

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Electrified rock needs a significant buff because it's only possible to spawn in a thunderstorm, and the copper axe is unable to make it electrified. Right now one full rock I mined sells for 5k total

versed cradle Apr 3, 2025, 10:35 PM

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make one electric rock sell for 250k

stable roost Apr 3, 2025, 10:37 PM

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solemn thorn Electrified rock needs a significant buff because it's only possible to spawn in...

No the copper axe can, you just have to stand near rock

solemn thorn Apr 3, 2025, 10:40 PM

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Fair but you would still need a tree near to it
Even then it still sells for far less than the electrified tree for no reason

stable roost Apr 3, 2025, 10:48 PM

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You really don’t need a tree near it, all the copper axe does is make it so lightning strikes you, and anything you stand by gets electrocuted

versed cradle Apr 3, 2025, 10:50 PM

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Make us able to make missiles with lightning and one of those giant boomite crystals

muted spindle Apr 4, 2025, 2:33 AM

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stable roost You really don’t need a tree near it, all the copper axe does is make it so ligh...

this is accurate and if you get two nodes close to eachother then you can get both with one strike

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 3:30 AM

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oh wait @torpid ocean are the mushroom caps worth more for just mysterious mushroom or does it also apply to the regular mushrooms

toxic bough Apr 4, 2025, 7:42 AM

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Does mob mean animal or mob like a person from a familia?

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 7:47 AM

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Stands for Make Oaklands Balanced

toxic bough Apr 4, 2025, 7:53 AM

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stable roost Stands for Make Oaklands Balanced

Did flameslate got buffed?, ever since the incident of debuff

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 7:53 AM

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No idea

toxic bough Apr 4, 2025, 7:54 AM

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They gotta buff it

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Oh nvm

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I forgot about the timing mechanic, i hate it

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 10:43 AM

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stable roost oh wait <@679076024876793856> are the mushroom caps worth more for just mysterio...

I'm not sure

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 6:29 PM

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Ok, I’ll just make a note that I sold the caps as well

flint talon Apr 4, 2025, 6:35 PM

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i took one look at that spread sheet and closed my adhd bro is gonna kill me if i try

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 6:36 PM

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lol

flint talon Apr 4, 2025, 6:36 PM

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make a baby version pls

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 6:39 PM

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I have autism so this is literally perfect for me biggestgrin

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I love data yes yes gathering data is fun

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:06 PM

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stable roost I love data yes yes gathering data is fun

btw, the spread sheet you made what are do all the stuff in the columns mean?

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 7:06 PM

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What do you mean

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Like all the data?

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:06 PM

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yes

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cash gained low and cash gained high?

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 7:07 PM

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Yeah that’s autocalculated

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:07 PM

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what are they?

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and then "Enter 1 for money per minute, enter 60 for hour"

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what's that supposed to mean?

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 7:08 PM

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That’s for calculating rates

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Like how much you make per minute

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:08 PM

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and then "rate, low rate, high rate"?

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Low rate and high rate I think depends on like how much the stuff sold for

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Cause I have the original sell price, and then the current sell price

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:10 PM

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you don't know what you wrote?

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:10 PM

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stable roost Low rate and high rate I think depends on like how much the stuff sold for

low and high is minimum stock market and maximum stock market

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it's not their sheet it's mine

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:10 PM

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stable roost Cause I have the original sell price, and then the current sell price

so the sell price now and the one before?

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oh

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 7:11 PM

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Yeah just made a copy

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:11 PM

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torpid ocean low and high is minimum stock market and maximum stock market

and then there's the regulare "rate" and that's higher on some than the high or low rate

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:12 PM

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Regular rate is based off the money made / time
Low rate is minimum money made / time
High rate is maximum money made / time

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Minimum money made is calculated by taking the units sold and multiplying by the original sell price *.8

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The units sold it calculated by dividing the money made by the current sell price

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:14 PM

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then how do i calculate the amount earned for an hour for example

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:14 PM

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it does it for you

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well

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ok you just multiple the $/min by 60

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But there's a value above the rates which you can change to 60 to do that automatically

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:16 PM

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it says "enter for $/minute"

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that value?

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:17 PM

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Yea

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1 is per minute 60 for per hour

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:17 PM

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I can't change any vlaue

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:18 PM

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You need to make your own copy

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0.0167 for per second 🤓

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:18 PM

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but for example the mysterious mushroom, 4110$

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is that per minute?

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And for the travel time it says 4

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im assuming that that's 4 minutes

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:23 PM

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yes

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:24 PM

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okay

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wait, yes for both questions?

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:25 PM

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yez

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:25 PM

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got it

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:25 PM

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it says what each column is above them

heavy yoke Apr 4, 2025, 7:25 PM

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the whole thing confuses me slightly

torpid ocean Apr 4, 2025, 7:27 PM

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there's a lot but it's helpful for me

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Someone wanna try coconut

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 7:40 PM

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Oh I can do that rq, I have a god tier jam machine

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I’ll make a sheet for foraging

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alright, so i think ill just do a truck for coconuts, maybe ill add a trailer but idk

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 8:15 PM

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ok so i may do the server hop method for coconuts cause in one server i cant get a truck full

stable roost Apr 4, 2025, 8:39 PM

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alright @torpid ocean i have exactly one (1) run recorded in the thing, the travel time may be a bit off cause i would often travel between the 2 beaches but yeah

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tried to account for that as best i could

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more will happen soon

stable roost Apr 5, 2025, 5:46 AM

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coconut is lowkey kinda crazy

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torpid ocean Apr 5, 2025, 1:42 PM

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Dang

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downhill

hard lark Apr 5, 2025, 1:45 PM

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torpid ocean <:downhill:934136702228918293>

Not stonks

cold ingot Apr 5, 2025, 3:56 PM

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Holy hell, finally got internet back did a saphhire run and jesus these things suck so much 💀

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this was awful

stable roost Apr 5, 2025, 4:13 PM

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Lmao I’ll have to see what I get once I get to it

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It’s the meta rn

silent willow Apr 5, 2025, 4:16 PM

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Obsidian out-prices sapphire & is much faster to acquire

lime kite Apr 5, 2025, 4:44 PM

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silent willow Obsidian out-prices sapphire & is much faster to acquire

obsidian? as in cooled magmite?

silent willow Apr 5, 2025, 5:03 PM

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Yes

stable roost Apr 5, 2025, 8:07 PM

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ok, the caps for mysterious mushrooms sell for like 2k ish

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and the regular mushroom caps can maybe be like 1k at the most?

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i may make a small note of how many caps were sold but idk cause the caps may throw off the units sold value

burnt flint Apr 6, 2025, 12:17 AM

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Lumite deserves a buff as compensation for the river cave absolutely frying your eyeballs

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 4:49 AM

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im ngl grinding regular mushrooms in the mysterious caves is making me lose years of my life cause of them CORRUPTING!!!!

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 5:47 AM

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status update, the mid game trees have data record, it is now time to begin mid game ores

versed cradle Apr 6, 2025, 11:43 AM

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Make sapphire sell for 50k per bar

burnt flint Apr 6, 2025, 3:11 PM

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Is it me or are trees worth less than ores?

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I feel like high tier trees are overshadowed by ores like sapphire and uranium

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So trees defo need a small buff

silent willow Apr 6, 2025, 4:13 PM

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It seems like the volume of trees kind of offsets that, also some of the higher value trees are quicker to farm

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 6:11 PM

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Oh yeah, @torpid ocean when you can could you get the forged values of the rocks and ores?

torpid ocean Apr 6, 2025, 6:15 PM

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Uh I'm gonna ask hoofer later

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also I added lavaslate /Blackstone / just magma cave ores in general for mid game

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Mk I’ll add that to my sheet then

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Are you planning on changing the pricing of flowers or will those stay about the same

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 6:54 PM

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oooh i may redo my data for blueslate ore since i had also picked up the rock and forged that

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wait nvm the sheet accounts for that

torpid ocean Apr 6, 2025, 7:37 PM

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stable roost Are you planning on changing the pricing of flowers or will those stay about the...

Idk probably not, might make some a bit less to be safe but I don't think it's worth to try farming

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 7:38 PM

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ok cool, cause one of my friends is saying he gets a lot of money from roses so at some point ima have him get data for that maybe

torpid ocean Apr 6, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Yea try that mayb

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 7:39 PM

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yeee ill add roses to the foraging sheet

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also for stuff like blueslate and lavaslate, do you want me to just pick out the ores or take everythingm rock included

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cause for my blueslate data i would mine the vein and then just dump everything in the truck

torpid ocean Apr 6, 2025, 7:40 PM

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stable roost also for stuff like blueslate and lavaslate, do you want me to just pick out the...

Try both and do whatever makes more money

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more money/min

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 7:42 PM

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hmmm ok ill redo one run and see what i get

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 7:57 PM

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yeah just picking out the ores gives more money/min, except blueslate really just has zinc so its more like grinding zinc and then maybe getting bluesteel

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ill prolly redo it once i do the others, but for now ima keep it cause otherwise i'd be better off just making a simple chat for zinc instead of blueslate as a whole

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ima just keep grabbing the whole veins for now since the data sheet includes the sell price of the rock itself

stable roost Apr 6, 2025, 8:40 PM

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btw if you ever have any questions/concerns about my collected data let me know, whether it be the path i took or if i should redo a run

dapper sonnet Apr 6, 2025, 9:03 PM

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Please please please please please don't nerf kelp

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not my green bean trees

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it takes so much to make it worth it it is perfectly fine as is 💯 trust

torpid ocean Apr 6, 2025, 9:51 PM

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probably wont

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might buffa little actually

errant adder Apr 7, 2025, 4:24 PM

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@torpid ocean
Good day Mr Jak, I would like to suggest to make the Plek, have its leaf thing to be either: disable the collision of the leaf part of the plek or remove the leaf part of the plek entirely(essentially turns it into a cave crawler wood look alike). I suggest those changes to the plek wood so that we can fit more into the truck when we grind for it and make it viable as a late game money source for players. The price is alright but the amount we can hold each run is a bit low. Yes we can just use saw but the saw part takes a lot of time since the speed of the saw depends on the size of the wood. Thats all and i hope this messange will come to your end. Thank you

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Ill gather data tomorrow.

Also, the boomite does 110K average per run which takes 11-13 minutes; including the driving from plot 6 ( will get the full data later).
The mining phase takes around 8minutes and 30 seconds for safer run.

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I also noticed that a sapphire run does around an average of 200K per run.. Which takes around 21-24 minutes; including the travel time which takes 4 minutes in total, back and fort using the ice road method

cold ingot Apr 7, 2025, 4:38 PM

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errant adder I also noticed that a sapphire run does around an average of 200K per run.. Whic...

how many trailers are you filling

errant adder Apr 7, 2025, 4:39 PM

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cold ingot how many trailers are you filling

sellner truck, a long trailer, and 3 crates.

cold ingot Apr 7, 2025, 4:39 PM

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cause that's insane that you're going through the ice road and getting those numbers

cold ingot Apr 7, 2025, 4:39 PM

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errant adder sellner truck, a long trailer, and 3 crates.

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How are you getting that many sapphires? litterally not enough spawns for me?

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i stopped grabbing data to work on the wiki because of how slow sapphire was spawning

errant adder Apr 7, 2025, 4:40 PM

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i use crates to gather the sapphires inaccessible to the car, and only use the car on the 2 spawning place

cold ingot Apr 7, 2025, 4:41 PM

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wait that's actually smart, but still i haven't been able to get that many spawns? How many units did you sell?

errant adder Apr 7, 2025, 4:42 PM

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cold ingot wait that's actually smart, but still i haven't been able to get that many spawn...

like individual studs or like the amount of sapphires i get?

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because before the nerf it was 120-150, now that its insanely small, its only 70 minimum

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80 max

cold ingot Apr 7, 2025, 4:43 PM

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errant adder like individual studs or like the amount of sapphires i get?

sapphire forged price is 300 per unit, so take whatever amount of money you made and divide it by 300

errant adder Apr 7, 2025, 4:43 PM

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lemme find screens shots

cold ingot Apr 7, 2025, 4:43 PM

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(i.e exactly 200k is 666.666666667 units)

errant adder Apr 7, 2025, 4:46 PM

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hmmmm, Im now pretty sure thats not 200K but around 150K. Lemme check tommorow because its 12:46 in the morning rn for me

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But this is what i got eariler in boomite, which is actually pretty fair. 12 minutes over all with -13% in stock market

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i can check rn but its pretty painful to get sapphies

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yup, @cold ingot i forgot to take screen shots on the sapphires, will take em tomorrow asap. Gotta continue studying the contemporary world cuz we have a quiz tomorrow

errant adder Apr 7, 2025, 4:52 PM

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cold ingot sapphire forged price is 300 per unit, so take whatever amount of money you made...

Ill totally do this tomorrow. Ill help the balancing team for fun. LOL

cold ingot Apr 7, 2025, 4:56 PM

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errant adder Ill totally do this tomorrow. Ill help the balancing team for fun. LOL

330 units

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(330.76)

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we dont have a reliable way to determine sell price ATM for sapphire or lightslate so you'll have to just assume they're selling for base-price

torpid ocean Apr 7, 2025, 5:41 PM

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working on getting ore prices

stable roost Apr 7, 2025, 6:11 PM

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Epic

stable roost Apr 8, 2025, 4:03 AM

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just noticed something, tin is one of the ores that doesnt get counted on the stock market, but it shows up in blackstone

errant adder Apr 8, 2025, 8:33 AM

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errant adder Apr 8, 2025, 9:59 AM

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Ehh, not soo worth it anymore

torpid ocean Apr 8, 2025, 1:30 PM

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Forged ore base values
Tin: 24
Cobalt: 72
Lithium: 74
RosaQuartz: 220
Sand: 24
Obsidian: 220
Palladium: 320
Rose Gold: 120
Pyrite: 32
Quartz: 24
Uranium: 680
Zinc: 70
Bluesteel: 600
Adurite: 250
Copper: 34
Jade: 160
Ice: 8
Iron: 40
Magnetite: 595
Mythril: 185
Oreable: 15
Ink: 34
Greeb: 270
Fungiviolet: 385
InfusedInk: 54
CandyCorn: 34
Lumite: 270
OpalBlue: 52
OpalRed: 52
OpalBrown: 52
Boomite: 180
RedSand: 24
Dirt: 33
Gold: 54
Silver: 90
Magmite: 444
Sapphire: 300
Bombastic: 55

torpid ocean Apr 8, 2025, 1:30 PM

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torpid ocean Forged ore base values Tin: 24 Cobalt: 72 Lithium: 74 RosaQuartz: 220 Sand: 24 ...

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Forged Rock Values
Blueslate: 16
ChalkySlate: 16
RedClay: 34
Limestone: 16
SmokeSlate: 16
Blackstone: 20
Gravel: 20
Icestone: 48
Marble: 16
Ore: 10
Sandstone: 12
BeigeSlate: 16
LightSlate: 16
Fungoidite: 34
BlueClay: 34
BrownClay: 34
LavaSlate: 36
ElectrifiedStone: 35
Grimestone: 24
SweetStone: 15
Prismarine: 40
Flameslate: 126
Terracotta: 16
RedSandstone: 12
Sandslate: 16
ClassicSand: 10
CorruptedLimestone: 32
Ice: 24
Snow: 24
Aurore: 160
DarkSlate: 20

torpid ocean Apr 8, 2025, 1:34 PM

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torpid ocean Forged Rock Values Blueslate: 16 ChalkySlate: 16 RedClay: 34 Limestone: 16 Smo...

high idol Apr 8, 2025, 2:52 PM

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torpid ocean Forged ore base values Tin: 24 Cobalt: 72 Lithium: 74 RosaQuartz: 220 Sand: 24 ...

Is the plan to make uranium worth more like your spreadsheet shows there...

or is the plan to make uranium easier to get but the value isn't gonna change much? @torpid ocean currently on average the uranium for a high is around 650 a stud highest... i saw it was like 670 something one time but have yet to see it again

to be fair I have only been watching uranium for about 4-5 days now but it's always around the same... so i was just curious on if your able to share any details about upcoming changes on that ore

torpid ocean Apr 8, 2025, 2:53 PM

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dunno yet

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have not tested

high idol Apr 8, 2025, 2:53 PM

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Fair enough ok

torpid ocean Apr 8, 2025, 2:53 PM

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these are goals for rates

high idol Apr 8, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Alright thank you

stable roost Apr 8, 2025, 3:23 PM

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Hell yeah, time to fix my sheet once I’m back from lecture

stable roost Apr 8, 2025, 8:42 PM

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edited my inital message with my spreadsheet so itll show my progress on data gathering

dapper sonnet Apr 8, 2025, 9:32 PM

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torpid ocean might buffa little actually

absolute real one for that, I just want to personally thank you for enabling the kelpinator to continue thriving

stable roost Apr 9, 2025, 2:19 AM

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finally finished the mid game ores, now i can get to the "meta" ores

lime kite Apr 9, 2025, 2:56 AM

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W cosmic

stable roost Apr 9, 2025, 2:57 AM

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my autism is serving me well

torpid ocean Apr 9, 2025, 4:52 AM

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what's your net profit from allthis

stable roost Apr 9, 2025, 4:53 AM

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ooooo very good question

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gimmie a sec to add up everything

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alright so for mid game trees its 737799

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i know i got at least like a mil or 2 from this but ima get an actual number

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@torpid ocean 1,845,231 so far, im like just now getting to the stuff thats worth more

torpid ocean Apr 9, 2025, 5:10 AM

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W

stable roost Apr 9, 2025, 5:10 AM

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i didnt realize how good boomite is

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just gotta be quick

toxic bough Apr 9, 2025, 8:41 AM

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Buff lumite by 5%

stable roost Apr 10, 2025, 12:13 AM

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magmite is very interesting to me, it is quite literally the toughest ore in game and yet isnt worth as much as uranium

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also i love the challenge of navigating the magma caves

stable roost Apr 10, 2025, 12:49 AM

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oh yeah @torpid ocean what would you say is a good time for a lumite run with only a truck?

torpid ocean Apr 10, 2025, 12:50 AM

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not sure

stable roost Apr 10, 2025, 12:51 AM

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dude so far a LOT of things are like 4k/min

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like boomite got me the same amount of money as magmite/flameslate for like half the effort

stable roost Apr 10, 2025, 5:33 PM

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Today I hope that I can at LEAST finish the late game ores cause I no longer have to study for a test

floral shard Apr 10, 2025, 10:16 PM

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stable roost oh yeah <@679076024876793856> what would you say is a good time for a lumite run...

personal experience 90-120k

stable roost Apr 10, 2025, 10:37 PM

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oh yea, @torpid ocean one thing ive noticed is that the spawn regions in the sapphire caves are screwed up, so a decent amount of stuff spawns in the walls

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heres like one example but ima get more rq

torpid ocean Apr 10, 2025, 10:39 PM

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Can you put that in notes on your sheet

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So I remember

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later

stable roost Apr 10, 2025, 10:39 PM

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ok ill add that

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i was gonna suggest slightly buffing sapphire spawn rates, but i think fixing the region thing should do the trick

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could barely fill a trailer and truck

stable roost Apr 11, 2025, 4:27 AM

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dawg i gotta be doing something wrong, i feel like my uranium runs shouldnt end up at an hour

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keep in mind the order is 0 trailers, 1 trailer, 2 trailers

errant adder Apr 11, 2025, 10:24 AM

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stable roost heres like one example but ima get more rq

This also occurs on the left hand side ice covered area. It's a lot worst on that place. I've even seen it spawn behind the walls on the other side.

hard lark Apr 11, 2025, 11:11 AM

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stable roost heres like one example but ima get more rq

This also happens in acid caves. Stones spawn in walls and on the walls

stable roost Apr 11, 2025, 10:54 PM

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Oh yeah, @torpid ocean I just finished uranium if you wanna take a look at that, since that’s what a lot of players are complaining about

torpid ocean Apr 11, 2025, 10:54 PM

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oke

stable roost Apr 11, 2025, 10:55 PM

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I actually finished a lot of the top tier ores except for greeb

torpid ocean Apr 11, 2025, 10:55 PM

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uyh

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did you send the one for ores

stable roost Apr 11, 2025, 10:55 PM

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Eeeeuh is the spreadsheet not updated?

torpid ocean Apr 11, 2025, 10:56 PM

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nvm

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i found it now

stable roost Apr 11, 2025, 10:56 PM

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Yeah I have everything in different sheets for neatness

torpid ocean Apr 11, 2025, 10:56 PM

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its not horrible

stable roost Apr 11, 2025, 10:57 PM

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Honestly the biggest issue is the smog damage, it’s brutal

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I usually would just heal myself to like half health and then I’d be able to mine for like a few seconds before having to heal again

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Id say it takes me about 15-20 mins to fill a trailer/truck

high idol Apr 11, 2025, 11:44 PM

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It really is i can say that I have a good understanding of uranium i farmed 1700 peices in 2 days... the damage delt by the gas is crazy i still enjoy farming it because of the challenge and it obviously pays great... but I definitely can understand why some players complain especially mobile ones...

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I still think it's a great option but the gas could use a slight nerf...

burnt flint Apr 12, 2025, 12:26 AM

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I play mobile and have an obsessive uranium hyperfixation

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It's high risk high reward

high idol Apr 12, 2025, 12:35 AM

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Not sure If I just suck but I spent around 13 hours farming on day 1 and finished the 1700 peices on day 2 not sure how long I spend farming the 2nd day but anyways I waited for uranium to go to 630+ a stud and it was only like 4 million.... I can get more doing anything else I still enjoy doing it because it's fun like I said but if I need money... uranium doesn't pay for the effort and time especially factoring in you can crash/mess up or get glitched and you just wasted a hour

lime kite Apr 12, 2025, 12:42 AM

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high idol Not sure If I just suck but I spent around 13 hours farming on day 1 and finishe...

13 HOURS?!?

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😭

high idol Apr 12, 2025, 12:43 AM

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I have dedication lol😂

lime kite Apr 12, 2025, 12:43 AM

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fr

high idol Apr 12, 2025, 12:43 AM

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1st on leaderboard to prove it☠️☠️

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I'm staying there too

lime kite Apr 12, 2025, 12:43 AM

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Do you pick out the individual uranium pieces or do you get the whole node?

high idol Apr 12, 2025, 12:44 AM

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I grabbed the node raised it in the air then dropped it so I could pick the peices into a pile then I put them into the truck with the grabber

lime kite Apr 12, 2025, 12:44 AM

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alr

lime kite Apr 13, 2025, 12:55 AM

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dead chat 😦

stable roost Apr 13, 2025, 2:44 AM

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@torpid ocean dude am i like having a skill issue or something or am i just crazy, the rates for greeb get worse and worse

torpid ocean Apr 13, 2025, 3:02 AM

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maybe just not good to do multiple trailer idk

stable roost Apr 13, 2025, 3:37 AM

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yeah thats what im thinking, a lot of the time spent on greeb was me just driving around and then having to fight enemies

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anyway, that means late game ores are done, i really just have late game trees to do and then the max progression data is mostly done if you exclude the chance based ores

burnt flint Apr 13, 2025, 2:45 PM

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In my opinion the prices of green should be a bit higher

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Acidlands should be like a late/mid-game area

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Seeing how it's high risk high reward

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And maybe give the post-arena weapons special abilities

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Like the bow can rain down arrows and such

burnt flint Apr 13, 2025, 3:07 PM

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So that they feel more worth it

lime kite Apr 14, 2025, 9:53 PM

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dead chat part 2

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( 😦 )

floral shard Apr 18, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Love the changes made the Magma Cave; made it feel less like a pit of darkness and pain❤️

burnt flint Apr 19, 2025, 12:13 AM

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Easter event was the first time I visited magma cave in months

gloomy orbit Apr 19, 2025, 12:17 AM

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burnt flint Easter event was the first time I visited magma cave in months

same

stable roost Apr 19, 2025, 12:54 AM

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@torpid ocean i have pretty much finished getting data for grinding materials at max progression!!!!!

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palladium and fungiviolet will be interesting to do since thats chance based but yeah

torpid ocean Apr 19, 2025, 1:00 AM

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epic

stable roost Apr 19, 2025, 1:04 AM

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if you have any questions about the data ask and i shall answer at once

burnt flint Apr 19, 2025, 3:17 PM

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Where my magnetite grinders at

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Oh wait they don't exist

sterile sigil Apr 20, 2025, 4:49 AM

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coconut👎

sterile sigil Apr 20, 2025, 4:51 AM

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stable roost palladium and fungiviolet will be interesting to do since thats chance based but...

dont u dare nerf fungiviolet

stable roost Apr 20, 2025, 4:53 AM

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Bruh if anything it’s getting buffed

torpid ocean Apr 20, 2025, 3:24 PM

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yh

stable roost Apr 20, 2025, 4:06 PM

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Anyway, once I get home I’ll probably start on the progression data, for this I’ll just do 4 runs, 2 with no trailers and 2 with 1 trailer. For some of the late game stuff I feel as though “progression” is basically being at max, like for magmite, plek and prolly more I can’t think of rn

torpid ocean Apr 20, 2025, 5:39 PM

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yea don't bother for the late game materials

stable roost Apr 20, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Epic

lime kite Apr 22, 2025, 1:43 PM

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🤑

burnt flint Apr 22, 2025, 10:17 PM

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102k from barely even a half truckload of uranium

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It was up 5% i had to

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Uranium is my pookie

hallow nebula Apr 25, 2025, 7:00 AM

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Dont nerf my palladium 🙏

still mirage Apr 25, 2025, 12:09 PM

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stable roost

coconut my beloved

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😍

cedar shard Apr 26, 2025, 12:44 AM

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@torpid ocean When do you expect this jam nerf / change to take place?

torpid ocean Apr 26, 2025, 12:45 AM

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quest update

cedar shard Apr 26, 2025, 12:47 AM

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torpid ocean quest update

How many months / days, do you think that would be in?

torpid ocean Apr 26, 2025, 12:47 AM

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ermm

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i want it to be in like a month

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but it probably gonna be 2 +\

cedar shard Apr 26, 2025, 12:47 AM

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Ok thanks, now I know I didn't waste 20+ hours making a jam setup

stable roost Apr 26, 2025, 1:15 AM

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dude i completely forgot that you can saw up the wood so that its smaller, i havent been doing that for ANY of my tree data

stable roost Apr 29, 2025, 2:35 AM

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@torpid ocean officially finished the mid game trees sheet

torpid ocean Apr 29, 2025, 2:40 AM

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WWW

stable roost Apr 29, 2025, 2:40 AM

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dude i did the progression data for trees on a second save and i make like 400k+

torpid ocean Apr 29, 2025, 11:42 AM

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nicee

stable roost Apr 29, 2025, 8:16 PM

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@torpid ocean one thing ill say, out of all the mid game ores, lavaslate requires tier 3 tools compared to the others only needing tier 2. Lavaslate is the only material in the "mid game" category that requires tier 3 tools

torpid ocean Apr 29, 2025, 8:20 PM

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oh

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might have to change that

stable roost Apr 29, 2025, 8:42 PM

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yeah lavaslate could either be late game and worth (slightly) more or just make it minable by tier 2

slender flower Apr 30, 2025, 12:22 AM

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nerf jak pls

torpid ocean Apr 30, 2025, 12:44 AM

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I'm too op

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literally says op next to my name

stable roost Apr 30, 2025, 12:56 AM

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TRUE

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the new meta

stable roost Apr 30, 2025, 1:28 AM

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@torpid ocean here my plek route

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had to export in 480P cause no nitro

torpid ocean Apr 30, 2025, 1:44 AM

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yea I do that route

stable roost Apr 30, 2025, 1:48 AM

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epic

coral mantle Apr 30, 2025, 6:55 PM

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@torpid ocean do you plan on fixing any spawn rates and that bug where sapphire spawns in the walls of the Ice cave?

stable roost Apr 30, 2025, 8:12 PM

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He already knows about the buggy spawn rates, he’s most likely going to fix them

lyric egret Apr 30, 2025, 8:24 PM

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stable roost epic

whar

versed cradle May 3, 2025, 1:14 PM

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Can we make sapphire and uranium spawn in the surface

high idol May 3, 2025, 2:25 PM

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No no

burnt flint May 3, 2025, 8:42 PM

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versed cradle Can we make sapphire and uranium spawn in the surface

Uranium already spawns on surface

stable roost May 5, 2025, 4:44 AM

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i will finally be able to complete the spreadsheet in like 2 days from now maybe cause the easter event is now over and i finish finals on tuesday

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biggestgrin

torpid ocean May 5, 2025, 6:01 PM

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W

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i am interested to see rates for stuff like pom and enoki mushrooms

stable roost May 5, 2025, 6:07 PM

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Oh same

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Also gonna do roses and mmmaybe black roses idk

torpid ocean May 9, 2025, 1:58 PM

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e

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:41 PM

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raaaah its time to hopefully finish the sheet today

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grinding palladium and fungiviolet is gonna be a bit iffy

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welcome

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:52 PM

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hello

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:52 PM

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i saw that

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:52 PM

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no you did not

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hey at least now I have a reason to farm every material in the game

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:52 PM

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yes

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:52 PM

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(instead of my classic mushroom / pomegranates)

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:53 PM

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lemme uhhh send my spreadsheet so you can get an idea

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g82y0vbocO1zI17TTY4yyNwwjjFX4T-f1sQoS913qyw/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Balancing Data

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my epic sheet

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:54 PM

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why are you dodging the number 5

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:54 PM

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ehhhh just doing 4 runs of each for now

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:54 PM

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wait i'ma make mine longer

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20 runs for each, even tho i have no clue when i'll get to do that many

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:55 PM

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jesus

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:55 PM

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what's wrong with it XD

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:55 PM

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thats a lot

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:55 PM

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swapping servers for pomegranates is getting boring at some point

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:56 PM

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keep in mind that progression data is also eeded

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so like using the minumim level tools that can mine an ore

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or tree

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:56 PM

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what if i use gleam and emberbane

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:57 PM

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that would be like max setup

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:57 PM

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yeah but almost everybody has that

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:57 PM

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new players

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:58 PM

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they need to grind 50-60 sequoia for both tools

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simple

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:58 PM

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bruh

digital pine May 9, 2025, 7:58 PM

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XD

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ok let's say i'm making a spreadsheet for the experienced players

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so i'll be using emberbane and gleam

stable roost May 9, 2025, 7:59 PM

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ok

digital pine May 9, 2025, 8:00 PM

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farming time means how long it takes to take the material right

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processing is the base timing

stable roost May 9, 2025, 8:00 PM

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yeah to mine and load it

digital pine May 9, 2025, 8:00 PM

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and travel is travel.

stable roost May 9, 2025, 8:00 PM

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yeah travel is the way there AND the way back

digital pine May 9, 2025, 8:00 PM

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ah i know what to do

stable roost May 9, 2025, 8:00 PM

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so you'd need to add the 2 times together

digital pine May 9, 2025, 8:01 PM

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yeah i'ma use this

stable roost May 9, 2025, 8:02 PM

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Yeah that’s what I use

digital pine May 9, 2025, 8:02 PM

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great

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okay actually ill keep it 10 runs for each

stable roost May 11, 2025, 2:25 AM

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@torpid ocean all main materials are done!!!! i basically just need to get the chance based ores and foraging done now

torpid ocean May 11, 2025, 3:01 AM

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awesome

stable roost May 13, 2025, 2:56 AM

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@torpid ocean im about to finish up the last pomegranate run, so far almost no materials are able to compete with pom

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plek is the only thing thats able to come close to the rates

torpid ocean May 13, 2025, 3:06 AM

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crazy

stable roost May 13, 2025, 3:07 AM

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what i may actually do is runs with BOTH pomegranate and enoki since thats what a lot of people do

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and also when im foraging im server hopping

stable roost May 20, 2025, 5:18 AM

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ok so i slightly changed the way i grind pomegranates in which i just have an inv full of baskets excect for fusion coil since thats much faster than filling a truck and driving back

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im getting up to 10k/min

ivory vale May 20, 2025, 10:49 AM

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stable roost ok so i slightly changed the way i grind pomegranates in which i just have an in...

what’s better sapphire/uranium/pomegrantes

stable roost May 20, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Mmmm lemme see

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I think based off how much you make per min it’s pomegranate

stable roost May 23, 2025, 5:08 AM

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@torpid ocean just finished getting data for poms and enoki, at some point ill prolly make a table for a run where both are gathered

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since thats what people usually do i think

torpid ocean May 23, 2025, 11:07 AM

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Aight

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Thx again vro 🙏

stable roost May 23, 2025, 7:31 PM

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biggestgrin

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I’m enjoying doing this

stable roost May 24, 2025, 12:03 AM

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@torpid ocean getting data for fungiviolet and palladium is prolly gonna be really difficult since in like 10 mins i was barely able to get any fungiviolet

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and i was even server hopping and mining out regular nodes

stable roost May 24, 2025, 12:30 AM

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another thing i noticed is that the cash gained high can sometimes be off from my actual cash gained, as in cash gained high is less than my actual gained cash

torpid ocean May 31, 2025, 9:09 PM

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tis time

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going to start working on this next week

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main focus for initial balancing: top 15 materials (on daily leaderboard ) + any other high end (tier 3 ) materials

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I wanna get at least 5 runs of my own for each

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cosmics data, and I'm also going to try to compile rates from yt because there seems to be a lot of them

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and those can be verified easily if they show them farming

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Also I want to create a 'master' spreadsheet which has averages & maximums of all the data points from any data I have access to (mine, cosmics, any yt videos + anyone else who wants to contribute)

lime kite May 31, 2025, 9:19 PM

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🤑

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can we make oak trees 1 mil per hour 🙏

torpid ocean May 31, 2025, 9:21 PM

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no KED

stable roost May 31, 2025, 9:46 PM

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biggestgrin

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big day

low moon Jun 1, 2025, 3:58 PM

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ight ima get to work

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 4:12 PM

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awesome

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lmk if you have questions with the sheet

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base values for stuff is pinned

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make sure you are fully proccessing stuff (if not note that somewhere)

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 4:12 PM

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Mythril is kinda strong rn, considering how easy it is to get
Rates over 3 runs
97,126$ in 7:06
85,431$ in 6:54
87,386$ in 7:13
End game set up btw

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 4:13 PM

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ok ty

low moon Jun 1, 2025, 4:20 PM

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i think im gonna record it all in obs to make my like easyer in filling the sheet would you like me to send the vids with the sheet in a drive in case you wanna look it over or whatever

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 4:21 PM

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sure

gloomy orbit Jun 1, 2025, 4:23 PM

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floral shard Mythril is kinda strong rn, considering how easy it is to get Rates over 3 runs ...

how are you supposed to farm mythril, half the time its too far away to get from the boards

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 4:23 PM

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gloomy orbit how are you supposed to farm mythril, half the time its too far away to get from...

climb the vines nearby to get to other nodes

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and gleam range is rlly large now

gloomy orbit Jun 1, 2025, 4:24 PM

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floral shard and gleam range is rlly large now

it got increased?

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 4:25 PM

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yeah

low moon Jun 1, 2025, 4:30 PM

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floral shard and gleam range is rlly large now

oh!

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so its useful now cool

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 4:31 PM

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floral shard Mythril is kinda strong rn, considering how easy it is to get Rates over 3 runs ...

idk if wanna nerf price that much but i made it taxe 2x longer to mine

low moon Jun 1, 2025, 4:32 PM

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low moon i think im gonna record it all in obs to make my like easyer in filling the shee...

heck im gonna use live split lmao

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oaklands willow any% when

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 7:06 PM

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Jak did the MM buff affect the shroom caps?

fallen citrus Jun 1, 2025, 7:51 PM

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do some of the data need to be changed cause of spawn location changes

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:24 PM

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floral shard Jak did the MM buff affect the shroom caps?

Think so yea

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 8:25 PM

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torpid ocean Think so yea

is MM late game or mid game?

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:25 PM

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late

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 8:26 PM

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my first run was
97213$ in 16:43
I kept the caps raw and this includes sanding time

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also having refined scuba on makes you unable to swim when the shrooms infect you

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:27 PM

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yea you gotta turn it off

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Do you wanna fill out a sheet

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 8:27 PM

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sure have a fresh copy of one

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:28 PM

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lemme ask cosmic if they can make blank version of theirs

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theirs is a bit nicer

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@stable roost

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otherwise can make a copy of this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xZzJa5EkCuei1G7wKGG4tdai42glKbPKco14Cv8Km4Q/edit?usp=drivesdk

Google Docs

Balancing Data 2.0

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:29 PM

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hi hello

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:29 PM

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and just delete my junk

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:29 PM

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yes i can make a blank version of mine

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:29 PM

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awesome

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I'll pin that

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Does it have all the materials ?

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:29 PM

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yeeee

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:29 PM

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epic

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:30 PM

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lemme just copy and then clean stuff

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:30 PM

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✅

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We were actually talking Abt doing rewards for helping with this and having it be more official

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:31 PM

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oh yeah, i noticed that the og values of the materials in the update log are different from what i had in my sheet

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:32 PM

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I also noticed that when I was adjusting them

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I'm not sure if what you had was outdated

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:32 PM

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idk its what you gave me'

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:32 PM

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it seemed to only be for fruits ?

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:32 PM

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nah happened for wood too, plek for example

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Oh if some of them were a decimal I rounded up for the changelog

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:32 PM

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ohhhh

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well hang on

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cause for plek i have 177.32, and the rebalanced price is now 170

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:33 PM

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the changelog is sanded

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:33 PM

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OH

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:34 PM

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which I didn't take into account when buffing things 😭

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:34 PM

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biggestgrin

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:34 PM

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Shouldn't be huge issue tho I was pretty conservative with the buffs

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:34 PM

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mhm

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if needed i can check by just sanding stuff

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:35 PM

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It'll be fine

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I just need to remember for when I adjust stuff again

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:35 PM

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i mean, what you could maybe do is like mess with my data and see what values give a like 10k/min rate for example

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your data and other data ofc

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:36 PM

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that's what I did when I buffed

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:36 PM

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ohhh

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:36 PM

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but I was doing like 7-8k max

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because I didn't wanna overdo anything rn

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With the small amount of runs

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:36 PM

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true

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cause its really just my data you're going off of unfortunately

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Yea

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I assumed you were not farming them good

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xd

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:38 PM

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ehhhh with some im good at farming them

still mirage Jun 1, 2025, 8:38 PM

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.

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ok umm

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 8:38 PM

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well yes just it's possible that people could make like 2k/min over yours

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:38 PM

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trees were a hit or miss, ores i feel i did kinda good at

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 8:38 PM

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torpid ocean well yes just it's possible that people could make like 2k/min over yours

oh for sure

still mirage Jun 1, 2025, 8:38 PM

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how to search in forums on mobile...

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:06 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Kv_hTc4MtcLJ4rjDBtzszDyZYruRY3pLygiUZA8p_90/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Balance Data Template

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@torpid ocean theres the empty version

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 9:07 PM

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stable roost https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Kv_hTc4MtcLJ4rjDBtzszDyZYruRY3pLygiUZA8p...

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@floral shard

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Make sure you are getting times for travelling farming and processing seperate

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the travel time includes time out and time back

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:08 PM

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yeah i have a little graph that allows you to easily add the time there and time bacl

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:08 PM

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oki ty for template cosmic

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:08 PM

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yeee

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im putting in the hours

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 9:08 PM

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W

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:09 PM

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feel free to compare your data to mine, im curious to see how much better or worse you do than me

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mine isnt perfect by any means

jagged pollen Jun 1, 2025, 9:12 PM

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hi jak (pls say hi back)

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 9:12 PM

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Hi

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:12 PM

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for time do we input seconds or can I do smth like 7:23

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:12 PM

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theres a time converter at the top

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 9:12 PM

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Its time in minutes

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So that would be like 7.3 smthn

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:13 PM

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i say just use this to convert the time

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 9:13 PM

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Yes

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:13 PM

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makes it easy

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 9:13 PM

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Use dat

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:14 PM

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i am contributing to the oaklands economy

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:14 PM

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oh neat

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so 7,6k per min with magma do I just suck or...

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:14 PM

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hmmmmmmm

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lemme see

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like magma trees?

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:15 PM

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yeah

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:15 PM

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cause my rates suck but my data is pre-buff

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whats the current price of magma trees?

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:15 PM

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can't we just multiply by a percentage

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180 vs 150 before

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:15 PM

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nah i mean like stock market

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actually lemme get in game and check

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:16 PM

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oh forgot to account for stonks

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:16 PM

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yeah thats what the "current sell price" colum is for

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btw if you have questions about the sheet ask me cause i think i have a good understanding of it

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:17 PM

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so base sell price is sanded or...

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:17 PM

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uhhhh

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well the one displayed in the log is sanded

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however i think jak would have to give us the planked price

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cause all my data is planked

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:19 PM

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k imma just to plank as well then

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:19 PM

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yes goal is basically as much money as possible

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i think planking gives x2 the price??? idk lemme check

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its by like 25% nvm

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:22 PM

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the stock market says magma is 198 per stud

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:22 PM

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mk

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:22 PM

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but based on Jak's number it should be 225

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and stonks positive rn for magma

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:22 PM

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yes

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:23 PM

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198 /= 225?

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am I crazy

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:23 PM

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stock market stuff

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225 is like the base value

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it can go up or down

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the spreadsheet takes that into account if you put it in "base sell price"

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:24 PM

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yeah but its plus 4%

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so why is it less than base

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:24 PM

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well thats 4% up from the LAST value

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:24 PM

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ohhhhh

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:24 PM

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yes

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anyway the fact you got 6-7k with magma means that I suck cause i got a lower rate

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even after messing with the values

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:26 PM

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doing math it should be around 8k per min when its base value

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:27 PM

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yeah i may do some runs again to see if i can get better rates

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:27 PM

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how long are ur runs btw

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:27 PM

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hmmmm

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depending on how many trailers i use like 10-15 mins

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like in total from travel to selling

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:28 PM

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do you cut up the trees?

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:28 PM

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yes

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however i did NOT saw them

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are you sawing?

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:28 PM

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yeah but cutting small enough to insta saw

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:29 PM

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dude

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:29 PM

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so I get a crap ton of trees

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:29 PM

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I NEED TO DO THAT

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:29 PM

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emberbane fast so I think its optimal

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:29 PM

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i forgot about that strat but i remembered like halfway through my data so i was like "well i need to keep it consitent"

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:29 PM

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floral shard emberbane fast so I think its optimal

yes i used emberbane

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and obsidian belt

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cause lava is ouchie

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yeah i think im gonna redo my wood data cause i now REMEMBER THE SAW

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:31 PM

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do you have lum kelp in the sheet

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:31 PM

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no thats new

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you can add it tho, i added a little template sheet at the very end

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floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:31 PM

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oh nice

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:32 PM

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i dont even know the value of it

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hey @torpid ocean whats the plank value of the new lum kelp?

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:33 PM

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whats the value of all new mats🙃

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:33 PM

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actually yeah

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i imagine prolly not worth too much tbh

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you never know though

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:34 PM

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lum kelp is like 8k per min

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its a lil stronk

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:34 PM

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cursed

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is lum kelp in mike's mines or the rivee cave

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:35 PM

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mikes mine pond

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:35 PM

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ok

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btw stock market refreshes in like 23 mins

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also are you separately timing traveling there AND THEN traveling back

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cause thats important

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:37 PM

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yeah

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:38 PM

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epic

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OH btw make sure you share your google doc

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mine is pinned somewhere in here

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 9:41 PM

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this work: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FDfTNxXjkPPJoQ59O9vRD-tkhOE_YUP_uLY1eEIZlqE/edit?gid=850209107#gid=850209107

Google Docs

Lucky's Balance Data Template

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 9:41 PM

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correct

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i see it all.

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anyway yeah ima redo all my tree data rn just so my data can semi match yours

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 10:30 PM

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MM 7k per min

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jerry_shocked

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 10:32 PM

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YESSIRRRR

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ok since stock market doesnt refresh for like 5 hours i grind now

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 10:38 PM

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@stable roost where'd you grind ice pine?

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 10:38 PM

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hello

ivory vale Jun 1, 2025, 10:38 PM

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Lucky what is the meta i’m trying to see

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 10:39 PM

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uhhhhm lemme get that for you rq

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 10:39 PM

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ivory vale Lucky what is the meta i’m trying to see

raw adurite or mythril go have fun

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 10:39 PM

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yeah i second this

ivory vale Jun 1, 2025, 10:39 PM

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I can’t find either 🤣🥲

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I remember u saying somewhere near mikes mines

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but can’t find it

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 10:41 PM

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tbh I dunno if its just that I've gotten so used to methods making 10k+ per minute but I feel so slow only getting 7k 😭

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 10:41 PM

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like right here is where i got my trees (theres no trees bc i used freecam but trust)

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 10:41 PM

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ew

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hate that spot

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 10:41 PM

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its the closest

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 10:41 PM

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ptsd

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 10:42 PM

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yeahhh but unless you get lucky with ice trees on the ice path that area is the closest i think

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funny enough i was boutta grind ice wood as well

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ill see what i get with just one truck

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oh god bless i have to semi relearn the map

floral shard Jun 1, 2025, 11:15 PM

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Ice pine being 4k per min is a crime

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and its pretty hard to grind consitently cause ice

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 11:30 PM

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god

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 11:50 PM

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stable roost however i think jak would have to give us the planked price

I gave planked in the pins

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I think

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 11:51 PM

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floral shard Ice pine being 4k per min is a crime

That's why I like doubled price lol

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 11:51 PM

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floral shard this work: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FDfTNxXjkPPJoQ59O9vRD-tkhOE_Y...

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All raw ores got nerfed

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like raw unrefined

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So refine and forge them lol

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 11:54 PM

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stable roost hey <@679076024876793856> whats the plank value of the new lum kelp?

Its like slightly more than kelp I'll get you it when I'm home

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 11:55 PM

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Ok epic

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 11:55 PM

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torpid ocean I gave planked in the pins

Well I mean like the NEW planked values, I did calculate them so I think it’s correct????

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Like ice pine is 150 right?

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 11:56 PM

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uhh

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what did I say it was sanded

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 11:56 PM

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Uhhh I was going off of the values that hoofer put in the update log

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 11:56 PM

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120

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25% right

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Yes

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 11:56 PM

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Yes it’s 25%

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 11:57 PM

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I'll run the scripts again to get all values

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 11:57 PM

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Epic

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Boutta get meself some chic fil a cause I hungry

torpid ocean Jun 1, 2025, 11:58 PM

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also @floral shard I really appreciate help ty for joining us 🙏🙏

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chic fil a sounds good

stable roost Jun 1, 2025, 11:58 PM

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I’d get 5 guys but like, it’s expensive

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also yeah I’m gonna be redoing my wood data so hopefully rates for wood will be better

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ESPECIALLY since you buffed sawing/sanding

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 12:02 AM

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yuh

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 12:03 AM

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NO ITS SUNDAY CHIC FIL A IS CLOSED

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 12:05 AM

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Rip

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you ever go to culvers

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They got a nice chicken sandwich

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 12:12 AM

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torpid ocean you ever go to culvers

I do not think that exists where I live

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Nvm it does but it’s like super far away

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 12:12 AM

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Rip

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 1:38 AM

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@floral shard whats your travel time for ice pine

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oh wait i forgot i can check nvm sorry

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:36 AM

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mk yeah im getting like 3-4k/min for ice pine

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gonna try 2 trailers since for some reason the ice seems more stable...

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:36 AM

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stable roost mk yeah im getting like 3-4k/min for ice pine

Isn't that what you were getting before buff

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:36 AM

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torpid ocean Isn't that what you were getting before buff

eeeeuh lemme check

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:36 AM

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lol

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P sure it was

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:36 AM

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nope 1-2k

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:37 AM

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1-2k???

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dayum

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:37 AM

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heres old

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keep in mind i wasnt sawing

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was just chucking the raw logs in

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:37 AM

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sawing better ?

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:37 AM

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yeah kinda, here new data

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dude

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depending, i can saw an ENTIRE ICE TREE

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:38 AM

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ermm

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:38 AM

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like just whole tree

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with reinforced saw btw

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:38 AM

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torpid ocean ermm

im assuming thats not intended

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it takes like turbo long to saw an entire tree tho

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:39 AM

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yea

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How long like a minute ?

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:39 AM

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something like that

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:39 AM

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maybe not horribly unbalanced

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:39 AM

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yeah not really

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plus some of the ice pine trees can end up being too big

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so you gotta cut it up anyway

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and it takes a long time even with the best saw so

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:40 AM

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I was just making it so the reinforced saw could do 1 of the great oak segments lol

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:40 AM

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hmmmm

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cause the ice pines arent horribly huge

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but again it takes like a LONG time to saw so

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:41 AM

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ya

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:41 AM

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should be fine...

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:41 AM

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I think it's probably better to sand at base

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like if you just piled a bunch of them on a semi

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:42 AM

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well the reason why i sand when there is cause you can cut them up small and fit more in the truck as a result after sanding

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at least with like the big trunks of trees

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:42 AM

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yea but seems pretty slow

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I'll try some other methods later this week

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:43 AM

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it may be one of those things where its like more money gained, but lower rate as a result

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ill do 2 more runs where i dont saw and do it at my base

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for consistensy rn im just doing the normal sellner and extended trailer setup, but ill def use the semi

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:45 AM

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The weld region on semi is rlly good

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I bet you could use crates and have like 8 or 10 trees on there

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:45 AM

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yeah exactly what i was thinking

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yeah i wouldnt even need to chop them up too much, just throw them on there and go

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:45 AM

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yh

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Idk how good sander buff really was, but doesn't really matter people got crazy setups lol

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:46 AM

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yeah, my setup for sanding is AWFUL

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:46 AM

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I didn't buff the sanders as much

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:46 AM

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i have a good setup in mind but it would cost me millions lol

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how much did you even buff the saw by

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:48 AM

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I'd have to look but I kept changing number till reinforced could get the bottom segment of great oak

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:48 AM

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ohhh i see

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:49 AM

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Prob close to 2x more volume

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:49 AM

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yeah sounds about right

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:49 AM

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All the saws used to have the exact same volume lol

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:49 AM

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OH

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fun'

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yeah maybe i should invest in the like million dollar sander

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actually more like 4 mil i think

void horizon Jun 2, 2025, 2:58 AM

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stable roost yeah maybe i should invest in the like million dollar sander

tf is that

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:59 AM

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void horizon tf is that

this thing

wind dock Jun 2, 2025, 6:47 AM

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torpid ocean main focus for initial balancing: top 15 materials (on daily leaderboard ) + any...

Time to farm absolute trash to rig the board

wind dock Jun 2, 2025, 6:49 AM

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torpid ocean idk if wanna nerf price that much but i made it taxe 2x longer to mine

Decent fix, indeed taking longer to mine a node will be good, as for me i tried to get them but for me most of the nodes were too high with no ground to stand to get them down. Its a good meta but again its literally end game meta and not early game considering it requires immense skills

clever coyote Jun 2, 2025, 9:15 AM

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🔥

spark frigate Jun 2, 2025, 11:17 AM

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wind dock Time to farm absolute trash to rig the board

grind dirt

low moon Jun 2, 2025, 12:33 PM

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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yKLw9RGr-Y0blcG09yX0NRMDvurVelUw?usp=sharingim still geting the rest heres what i have for 1 run rn

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oh i just saw willow was nerfed

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so my data is no longer accurate...

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Sadge

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 2:02 PM

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someone wanna test sapphire w/ semi lol

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 2:02 PM

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Just change the number

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Oh god, I could attempt that once I redo my tree data and also get a feel for driving the semi on the ice path

wind dock Jun 2, 2025, 2:49 PM

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My skills make me horrible tester for grinds

spark frigate Jun 2, 2025, 2:53 PM

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how do people even get a lot of ores in a single crate

wind dock Jun 2, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Skills

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They are quick in stacking.

floral shard Jun 2, 2025, 8:55 PM

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torpid ocean That's why I like doubled price lol

this is after you doubled the price😭

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 9:03 PM

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Yeah true I can second that

floral shard Jun 2, 2025, 9:03 PM

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also Jak did you shadow nerf boomite yet?

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 9:03 PM

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Boomite doesn’t need a nerf imo

floral shard Jun 2, 2025, 9:03 PM

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I've gotten 10k per min before with it; then I stopped grinding cause life

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 9:03 PM

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It’s kinda tough if you’re not quick

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Hmmm

low moon Jun 2, 2025, 10:00 PM

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torpid ocean someone wanna test sapphire w/ semi lol

sorry i dont like famring with crates lmao

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 10:26 PM

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ok time to see how bad the ice path is with the semi

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 10:57 PM

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@torpid ocean average amazon delivery truck

floral shard Jun 2, 2025, 10:58 PM

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are you using that for saph or ice

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 10:58 PM

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sapphire

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crates and wood arent reallt feasible

torpid ocean Jun 2, 2025, 11:02 PM

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stable roost crates and wood arent reallt feasible

Just use 1 row on bottom to keep entire trees up

stable roost Jun 2, 2025, 11:03 PM

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ohhh true

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biggest bottleneck for this large sapphire run will def be the spawn rate of sapphire

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im kinda scared to try the server hopping method with the semi cause theres a chance the stuff could vanish

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ok ill do the mega sapphire run after i pick up dinner

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 2:37 AM

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@torpid ocean i feel hollow because this took 2 HOURS

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note to self use less crates next time

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 3:03 AM

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yeah no i think i just cant grind with crates

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i took so long that the first 5 crates i had full of sapphire despawned

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 3:04 AM

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😭

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 3:04 AM

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ill prolly try again with like, 5 or 6 less crates

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i can def do it cause ik the trick for jampacking stuff in the crates, i just gotta refine the technique

pale pagoda Jun 3, 2025, 6:32 PM

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stable roost <@679076024876793856> average amazon delivery truck

Wait if u can get that 3rd row that means u can get 20 crates on this truck Poggies

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 6:32 PM

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It’s not efficient

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Better off with just 10

pale pagoda Jun 3, 2025, 6:35 PM

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Bros typin paragraph 💀

vocal wolf Jun 3, 2025, 6:39 PM

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Making Oaklands balanced would mean making Oaklands income sustainable and equal from all 3 (soon to be 4) types of money making schemes (foraging, lumbering, mining and one day fishing.)

Making Oaklands balanced isn’t having a clear meta; it’s having multiple choices from each and every money making method added.
Currently 2 tree metas (at a push.)
Ideally, we should have 2 trees (magma tree, mm.)
2 rocks (uranium, sapphire.)
2 forageables (my advice being one exclusive to pi island in a future update, and one being a desert forageable.)
2 fish (no idea how this will work so I can’t give examples here)

It should be possible to earn cash from all 3 (one-day 4) mediums, there are many ways to balance this.

Multiple tiers of jars, forageable presses and dye machines. Certain fruit can’t go in certain jars or machines and be foraged without a special glove (a gear perhaps) because they’re hot or corrosive or sporeic (looking at u tamed mm, blazing blossom, acid blossom and black rose.)

Rocks should be a meta as much as a tree should be. Rocks aren’t feasible, and very rarely are for more than a month. There’s already progression with it so I don’t need to explain myself here!

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Please hear us out on this, it would make the game so much better

vocal wolf Jun 3, 2025, 6:42 PM

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pale pagoda Bros typin paragraph 💀

As I should

vocal wolf Jun 3, 2025, 6:42 PM

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pale pagoda Wait if u can get that 3rd row that means u can get 20 crates on this truck<:Pog...

I’ve fit 32

vocal wolf Jun 3, 2025, 6:42 PM

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torpid ocean 😭

ooOoOo read my essay oOoOoO

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 7:28 PM

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Ya that's the idea

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 8:56 PM

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@torpid ocean semi with 10 large crates gives me about the same rate as if i were to use like 2 trailers

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wait lemme get better pictures

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so heres my data with sellner and trailers (run 3 "failed" because i tried to use 2 trailers but couldnt get up, so i had to ditch the trailer and basically somehow managed to fit 2 trailers worth of stuff in just 1 trailer, run still def succeeded tho)

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and then this is with semi (ignore the first one at this point, i used too many crates)

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in conclusion if you're good at jam packing ores into crates and get lucky with sapphire spawns, semi and sapphire is alright

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once the semi upgrade comes out ill def test again

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:02 PM

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i think the upgrade will make it 100X better

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dont have to deal with crates

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:03 PM

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yeah

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:03 PM

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soo i have a funny screen shot to send lol

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:03 PM

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ok

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:03 PM

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magma tree buff am i right

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:03 PM

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holy

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:04 PM

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my and a friend got busy

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id recommend you look into it

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:04 PM

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was this just one run or like multiple???

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:04 PM

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2

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:04 PM

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hmmm ok

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:04 PM

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2 semis while sawing to fit

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can get like around 50 trees per trip

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dont need to chop after you saw and can just saw the entire tree

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:05 PM

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yep

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saw got hella buffed

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:05 PM

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imo its pretty busted but we would need data to tell how much better it is then the car and 2 trailers

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sawing takes awhile

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:05 PM

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well i do have old data from magma trees

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i can fudge my data a bit and see

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one sec

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:06 PM

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mk

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:07 PM

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well i was only ever able to do like 1 trailer

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:07 PM

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stable roost well i was only ever able to do like 1 trailer

really?

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:07 PM

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yeah but i think thats just a skill issue for me

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i could prolly do it tbh

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:07 PM

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lol i always do 2 but ive done the trip like a million times

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its not to bad

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:08 PM

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hmmm yeah i think id have to get all new data with the sellner and trailers

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my old data lowkey sucks

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ima prioritize testing with semi tho

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:09 PM

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yea i think the semi makes all farming way better, and its gonna be even better with the upgrade

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ngl magma tree is pretty fun wiht a group

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:10 PM

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yeah prolly the other reason why your numbers are so high is cause more people = more material

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:10 PM

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well what we did is 1 person was uptop droping trees and the other wwas blelow sawing its just slower

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:10 PM

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cause 1.8m from 2 runs would be crazy if one person did that alone

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:10 PM

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i meannn i could do it but like i said sawing tkaes ages lol

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:10 PM

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ohhh so you really only had like 1 semi

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:11 PM

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at a time yea

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:11 PM

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i see

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how long would you say it took you?

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:11 PM

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i keep the first trip in the drawer cause we sold wiht only 1 before

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:12 PM

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stable roost how long would you say it took you?

i think a full semi that gives like around 750k is like somewhere like 45-1hour but we were not going full speed and haveing trouble loading

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:12 PM

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hmmmm

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:12 PM

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one the box upgrade is there we would be able to load really fast

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would be more $ per hour

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:13 PM

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yes

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like uranium is a good example of a semi terrible money per min, but like a lot of money overall

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:13 PM

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well wait 2 trips was 1.8 so 1 semi was 900k that first run was under

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:13 PM

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ill say like 800k for one semi for now

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:14 PM

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fiar meat in the middle

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:14 PM

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mk lemme see

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:14 PM

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fair*

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:14 PM

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and ill say it takes like eeeeeuh an hour in total for everything from travel to selling'

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:14 PM

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hmm should we work together on trying to figure out how op this is with data instead of my bad memory lol

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:14 PM

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stable roost and ill say it takes like eeeeeuh an hour in total for everything from travel to...

sounds right

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:15 PM

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god i have really bad brain fog rn im sluggish

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anyway

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:15 PM

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i feel you lol

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cant type rn lol

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the farming broke my brain

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:16 PM

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ok so hypothetically we looking at like 13k/min

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:16 PM

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i still feel liek it can be faster

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:16 PM

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low moon imo its pretty busted but we would need data to tell how much better it is then ...

Yea I think I need to do a little bit less lol

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:17 PM

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LMAO

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:17 PM

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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IK THDI WOULD HAPPEN BUT NOT MY BABY MAGMA TREE

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my poor baby

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:17 PM

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i mean the goal for magma trees is like 10k/min so

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wouldnt be too bad of a nerf

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:17 PM

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fair

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i think you shoudl wait till after the upgrade i feel you will need to nerf it agian

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(i regret rating on magma i need like 12 mill for cheese corp)

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:18 PM

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Well I think that the sanding size is too big rn regardless

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:18 PM

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the entire tree....

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:18 PM

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so I'm gonna nerf dat a little (still way more than before tho)

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:19 PM

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stable roost the entire tree....

idk sounds right to me little tiny hand saw geting entire tree

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:19 PM

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yeah cause the fact that i can saw an entire ice tree is insane

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intended gameplay

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:19 PM

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I underestimated how much bigger the great trees are

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:19 PM

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honestly i wish the saw that you place (i forgot the name) should be buffed a tad to balence it out but thats just me

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:19 PM

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bandsaw

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:19 PM

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yea

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like i feel that should saw a entire tree if it dosent already

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:20 PM

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That's for cutting

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bandsaw

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:20 PM

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oh thats not what i ment

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ill look hold on

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:20 PM

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bandsaw came in clutch for hallow trees

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:20 PM

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the industral sander

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:20 PM

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OHHHH

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well thats also been buffed

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idk how good it is rn tho

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:21 PM

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Yea

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:21 PM

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it cant saw the trunk of a great willow

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like just the bottom bit

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:21 PM

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what should I use as a baseline

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:21 PM

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hmmmmm

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:21 PM

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like for maximum handsaw volume

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I was thinking maybe like 1 branch of oak or something

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:22 PM

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i hop you mean more then 1 stick by branch

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:22 PM

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yk so you have to cut at the first branch split then all that can be sanded

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:22 PM

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so you mean just this?

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just so were clear

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:23 PM

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the reinforced saw could maybe do that or summ

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cause there are tiered saws

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hmmm hang on

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cause usually when i get ready to saw stuff or even just throw it in my truck, i chop at each tree segment

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:27 PM

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stable roost cause usually when i get ready to saw stuff or even just throw it in my truck, i...

yea i do that just to make space

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that was my old magma tree method

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:28 PM

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hmmmm, jak said he based the volume off the bases of the great oak trees

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lemme find one

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stump

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:29 PM

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liek one of these?

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:29 PM

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yeah something like that i think

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:30 PM

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idk i will still die on this hill but the hand saw rn and saw more then the band saw

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kinda stupid imo

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torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:30 PM

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low moon so you mean just this?

yea

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:30 PM

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like i think it should be the other way around but idk thats just me

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:31 PM

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ya

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:31 PM

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stable roost hmmmm, jak said he based the volume off the bases of the great oak trees

thats what i did before and was too much

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:31 PM

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yeahhh

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low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:31 PM

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hmm im just thinking

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:32 PM

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stable roost

like yea i dont think the band saw was buffed enogh if it was even buffed

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:32 PM

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low moon hmm im just thinking

but like i wonder whats faster choping the trees into smaller sticks or sawing for magma like $ per min wise

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ill do some test

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see what carrys more trees, speed ect

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cosmic could i ask you to also do the same test? i wanna see if we somehow do it faster or slower then each other

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also rq gotta ask is the upgrade in testing ive seen screen shots

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:34 PM

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i dont think so

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:35 PM

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ah

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:35 PM

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mk cause i would of liked to test it before it came out to avoid needing to nerf it agian again

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:35 PM

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also yeah i was already gonna do that anyway, i have old data from magma

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:35 PM

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i didnt buff sanders

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:35 PM

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LMAO

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:35 PM

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i buffed unused sawmills

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lol

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:35 PM

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torpid ocean i didnt buff sanders

i knew it

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wait did you see that lol

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:35 PM

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wut

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:36 PM

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nvm

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:36 PM

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eeeeuh if you wanna get actually good data you can make a copy of my spreadsheet and use that

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i have a table for magma

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:36 PM

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stable roost eeeeuh if you wanna get actually good data you can make a copy of my spreadsheet...

sure ill tkae a copy

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:36 PM

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its somewhete in pins'

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:37 PM

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i kinda get how jaks works

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but ill take a look

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:37 PM

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eh you basically just time yourself and then just write those times down

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for travel you record the time it takes to travel there AND back seperatly, and then add them together

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:37 PM

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nono ik but i mean how the data works and stuff

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:37 PM

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ohhhhh

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:37 PM

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i did it once

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i went as far as useing live split and recording lol

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:38 PM

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epic

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:38 PM

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for travel time framing processing and stuff

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it helped

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:39 PM

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i mean once you get something and show the data i can explain it

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:39 PM

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one sec

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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yKLw9RGr-Y0blcG09yX0NRMDvurVelUw?usp=sharing made a drive had recording and everything but right as i finished willow was nerfed and it was no longer valid lol

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only did 1 run tho

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:41 PM

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what are you confused about exactly

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like in the chart

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:41 PM

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not a ton like i said i kinda get it now

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but it still scares me to look at

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so many numbers

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:42 PM

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ohhhh

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well honestly i say just input the stuff you get and like me or jak can interpet it

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well mainly jak, hes the one actually coding it

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:42 PM

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mhm thats why i also sent the recording incase i screwed it up it can be fact checked

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:43 PM

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ohhh yeah

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:43 PM

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idk i thought it was helpful

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:43 PM

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i mean yeah the recording can be helpful

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:43 PM

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stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:43 PM

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large

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:44 PM

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torpid ocean

yea i still think that can do a entire magma tree

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:44 PM

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i think so

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:44 PM

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yeah try sawing a magma tree

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:44 PM

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is it that bad of a idea for the hand saw to not be able to really doa great treee

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like i personly think its not a bad idea balence wise for the player to need to use a band saw

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:45 PM

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sander?

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not the bandsaw

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bandsaw cuts

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:45 PM

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crap

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its cause its got saw in the name lmao

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like i said farming broke my brain

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ngl i enjoy helping with balence reminds me of when i would for a old game i worked on

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good times

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:46 PM

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yes

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:47 PM

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hmm

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reinforced

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had to cut off that bit

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i think thats prob good ?

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:47 PM

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well it is an oak tree and reinforced....

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:47 PM

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torpid ocean hmm

isnt a magma tree smaller then oak

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or am i crazy

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:47 PM

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i think magma trees are like "tougher" tho

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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isnt it based of like volume?

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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i think so

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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torpid ocean

ah

stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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too large

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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good

torpid ocean Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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stable roost Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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hmmmm

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yeah i think thats good

low moon Jun 3, 2025, 9:48 PM

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im very good with that

#MOB!!