Offering some logic help to those in need.

[bronze tangle]

this is a good wiring right? (i want the weather radar to go off automatically every 5 minutes)

[undone cairn]

why is it connected to a sensor as the power source? a switch would probably yield the same result

[violet crane]

Why are you using buttons? The switching is done by the chat commander

[bronze tangle]

oh i don't really know much about logic lol

[undone cairn]

fair. for this i assume you only need a constant on signal going into the frequency, so you could replace the weather sensor with a switch instead so you could turn it on/off

[bronze tangle]

alright, the frequency box value uses seconds i assume right

[undone cairn]

yeah

[violet crane]

I only noticed the delay and sustainer changes the other day

[undone cairn]

i haven't played in a while so im only noticing them now lol

[violet crane]

Its cool, No more delay stacking

I went back on the other day to have another go at my auto shop

Its working more reliably but not 10/10 times

[undone cairn]

odd

i still don't trust time-related components after i removed them all from my sign

[violet crane]

I just remade the randomiser system i originally had, and it works alot better now

I used a relay instead of a blocker too

The blockers are just awful

[undone cairn]

im fine with blockers when you need to let a specific value through on an off signal

like alternating a value between one and another

[violet crane]

Yeah

It usually works there, unless there's a weird server spike

Ive found that can lock them

Same with memory cells

[undone cairn]

i haven't had any issues with my sign and lag since i removed all sustainers, delays, hertz clocks, and zero ticks

[violet crane]

Awesome

[undone cairn]

no idea if any new changes made stuff different tho i haven't played in a month

[violet crane]

Yeah thats true, I added a little timer to my randomiser. Basically if it hasn't made an output in 2 seconds, then restart it

Thats inconsistent

[violet crane]

Probably not to logic

Weirdly they dont give a toss about it

[undone cairn]

except for the "you can now move components and the wires stay" update

[violet crane]

Thats cool

[undone cairn]

because i think they did do that

[stable lotus]

i was using the buttons to show because both the chat command and stuff were going back

i did add these and made some extra stuff out of it

so extra colliders so i can make some borders

[violet crane]

What is the input on the number interface going into the Greater Than gate?

It should be two, im wondering if you forgot about it

[stable lotus]

yea

[violet crane]

Its two?

[stable lotus]

yea, i followed the schematic you sent

im currently at the ice caves but i kept the wiring built at another corner

[violet crane]

Okay 👍

Wait, Could you elaborate?

So is it switching everytime you use the chat commander, but only pulsing that state?

Or is it only pulsing the first state

[bronze tangle]

so like i have a slight problem, switch is on, frequency is valued 300, except no weather radar messages are being sent

and i've timed it too 5 minutes no message

[violet crane]

Its got a switch set to on running into it, yes?

[bronze tangle]

yea its on

[violet crane]

Oh yah I see

[bronze tangle]

7 minutes no message

[violet crane]

Try to replace the frequency gate

Like select it and just press place

[bronze tangle]

alright

[violet crane]

Then rewire it

It should work then, sometimes it gets bugger

[bronze tangle]

alright i replaced everything and rewired ill update in 5 minutes

[violet crane]

Okie

You could set it to less seconds and see if it works then xD

Then change it back to 300

But if it doesnt work, Ive got an adjustable timer system that usually works

[bronze tangle]

alright

it worked

[violet crane]

Awesome 😎

[bronze tangle]

how long was a day in oaklands again

for the day night sensor

[violet crane]

Im not actually sure

[bronze tangle]

oh wait how does the daylight sensor work

does it just go off after every in game hour

[violet crane]

No

Wait actually

I forgot, if you read the description it will say

[bronze tangle]

yea

yea it seems to be the case

kind of hoped it worked like a minecraft daylight sensor but thats fine

so if i want to do a timer for 10 minutes right

i set up 2 frequencies, yes?

like this right?

[stable lotus]

oh this one

i had followed this

[bronze tangle]

no this doesn't seem right it, after the first frequency the power goes to the second wire but doesn't go through the second frequency and just dies there

do i have to lock the signal or whatever

[violet crane]

Oh no sorry you're right, its 3

[violet crane]

So basically thats because the input needs to be sustained for 300 seconds. Otherwise the second frequency will just stop

[bronze tangle]

how do i sustain the imput for 300 seconds

[violet crane]

May i ask why you're using 2 frequency things?

[violet crane]

You could use a sustainer

[bronze tangle]

alright

[bronze tangle]

oh yea also whats this btw

kind of wondering because i have my weather radar going off every 2ish minutes but it feels pretty off

[violet crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293874137793695855/1318932724232228985/image.png?ex=67919b12&is=67904992&hm=37eda366cedaab0a59aec4b459ab42377365bc5630e2529ab54b96f01dace0cf&

[bronze tangle]

ok

[violet crane]

I had to scroll really far through to find that because there's no search function on threads 😭

[subtle stirrup]

anyone mind helping me out with some logic for a 4 way conveyor

[bronze tangle]

oh i forgot to respond, i want to set the meteor telescope to go off every 10 minutes

because i dont think you can set frequencys above 300 seconds

[bronze tangle]

how do i set this to anything also

[violet crane]

Set the number interface to the amount of seconds you want. Its a lot more versatile than a frequency gate, as you can set it to a huge value. You could probably make it time days

[violet crane]

Sure! What part do you need help with?

[bronze tangle]

Yea but how do i connect it with anything im confused

[violet crane]

Sorry i forgot to mark an output, The greater than gate is the output

it pulses every x seconds you set

[bronze tangle]

Alright

[violet crane]

Sorry for the late reply btw 🙂

[bronze tangle]

Its fine

[bronze tangle]

this right?

[violet crane]

Yip

[bronze tangle]

alright that works wonders

[violet crane]

Awesome 👍

[spiral iron]

@violet crane whats up dude, i was wondering if u could help me out with an idea i got, so im building a food truck and im selling 4 items: moldog, cheese, rice, canned beans.

my idea is that the player pays 1 price and each item has a different chance to get (the cheaper it is the higher chance)

this is what i made up:

Probabilities:

Moldog (10 Lumite Credits): 10%
Canned Beans ($4,891): 15%
Cheese ($444): 40%
Rice ($600): 35%

is there a way to make this work with logic?

[violet crane]

Hey mate! Im happy to help 😊

That seems relatively easy to do

[spiral iron]

perfect! any price you want for your service?

[violet crane]

None at all don't worry about that!

[spiral iron]

oh you sure?

[violet crane]

Unfortunately I've just arrived at work, So once im done rotting here I can come up with a diagram for you. And i can join and help you with it if you need

[violet crane]

Yeah, All good mate 👍

Ive always offered my services for free

[spiral iron]

you all good, still gotta fill the truck and collect some of the items im selling, do you have an estimate amount of time until? no rush ofc

[violet crane]

Probably about 9-10 hours im afraid ☹️

Ill start thinking about it, thats the hardest part

[spiral iron]

nah thats all good, enough time for me to collect and add details

[violet crane]

And ill try and squeeze out a diagram if its possible on my phone

[violet crane]

Awesome 👍

To be honest mate, this might be quite easy

[spiral iron]

just so you know im in Australia and the time right now is 6:14 PM so if you are on the other side of the planet might not be able to join to get some help haha but I am all good with diagrams and all that 😄

[violet crane]

Oof i see, We can work something out!

If it means me making it on my plot and having you recreate it from photos, im happy to do that

[spiral iron]

whatever floats you boat, dont want to bother you too much

[violet crane]

We'll figure something out

Nono dw

This stuff keeps me interested 🧠

[spiral iron]

fair enough

[violet crane]

Id love to just do logic all day but my plot involves alot of building, which honestly i cba to do aha

[spiral iron]

yeah mines a mixture of both since its a museum, i had to make a clock that displays hours and minutes and changes colour based on the weather so its like a 2 in one, and then got a elevator for like 3 floors soon to be 6 which is easy to change, most of my logic is all connected to the one weather sensor since i have some stuff resetting to the original position on login to reduce glitches (the elevator mostly would sometimes break or the item inside it to open the door automatically would fall)

this was with some help from other players but most was just trial and error

[violet crane]

Ahh i see

Sounds nice

I made an auto shop ages ago but its getting so complex that im struggling to finish it

[spiral iron]

oh yeah im in that phase, making my auto shop too, i think ive done around 30 machines, since im selling like every limited item i can get my hands on

[violet crane]

Mines like one big machine

[spiral iron]

ohhhh, where u click a button and it changes the price at the donator?

wanted to do one of those but figured if i just do a bunch of lines and make it look like a bunch of pokie machines it might be funny

[violet crane]

You enter the code for the item you want, through the self service machine, and then it finds the item and sends it wherever it needs to go. That all works, but im making some collection bays so people can order over discord and collect it in game

But the collection bays are proving difficult. Mostly because im overcomplicating it

[spiral iron]

ahhhh fair, thats a nice idea, ive just got the expensive way where its 1 drawer per item, interactor, ownership converter, num interface and a donator

the time consuming part is changing the region of the interactor and ownership, got to the point ive had to build a box that i move with each machine

[violet crane]

Ive got a bank of storage drawers full of items, and it just picks from each one. They're so helpful

[violet crane]

Ah i see. I've still got to do ownership

[chrome oasis]

How would i make a "dispenser"
flick a Switch and it will activate a repeating signal to a interacter cauing items to drop out a box
OR a switch when pressed will do the same thing but for X amount of times (like 5 seconds)

[violet crane]

You can use a sustainer and a relay, with a hz clock and run that into an interactor

[spiral iron]

@violet crane hey dude i need some help again, im redesigning my elevator so it doesnt break so often, i want it do be where when the player clicks the button to go to a certain floor for this example lets say my shop, it would close all other floor doors but open the shop floor door, how could i do this? is it just a simple interactor with a flip flop for each door?

[violet crane]

You could have a laser and receiver detect the elevator at that floor, and run that into a NOT gate, and open the door

[spiral iron]

That works?? I thought elevators couldn’t get detected

[violet crane]

They can break a laser's light so you can detect the beam with a receiver

But a laser cant detect them like an item

[undone cairn]

i was trying to think of how to make an elevator with doors that open accurately. if the elevator passes through objects like laser receivers, those could potentially be used to gauge the distance that the elevator is currently at

or you could just use horizontal ones to detect when the elevator is at an exact height and then open the door if the floor number is selected or smthn

though you wouldn't want to detect the player or anything else inside the elevator, so i was thinking you could use a second smaller elevator in a tiny chamber that mirrors the movement of the main one

as for selecting the floor, there'd need to be some way to do that with an easy interface. you could use a slider on each floor and a button, and reset the slider to the current floor every time the elevator moves

or just simple up/down buttons for every floor, and a call button on the outside for each floor

[hazy mountain]

For the door you can just Time it with delay and for the Interface you can just have the same exact interface as an irl one

[hazy mountain]

.

[undone cairn]

i wouldn't trust delays because the elevator timing may depend heavily on server lag

[mint copper]

hi

is there a way to like seperate one big conveyor into three different smaller conveyors

with or without logic

im trying to speed up my farm

[violet crane]

Of course

I mean what about just using two borderless conveyors next to eachother at their widest size?

[hazy mountain]

He wants to split one into three to process faster

[violet crane]

Hmm, Why doesn't he just run two different conveyors forking off at the end, at like a 30° angle?

[hazy mountain]

Cause you can't guarantee even splitting

What you need to do is tweak the conveyor at fast rate synced with a drawer

[violet crane]

True

[half python]

just plug the input into a num splitter it auto floors it

[half python]

100%

[shrewd mesa]

well if you can floor numbers then it's definitely possible

[undone cairn]

the splitters all drop the decimal portion of a number so you can do a clean divide, unsure how i'd do modulo tho

[violet crane]

Maths 🤓

[undone cairn]

i mean in theory you could divide, subtract the part past the decimal point, and then multiply by the same number? but you'd definitely run into rounding errors

if you're doing a power of two, you can take advantage of binary probably

to compute x % y
first, divide x by y = A
then floor A = a
then multiply a * y = b
then subtract x - b = r

[violet crane]

I should learn binary, I feel like it would help me out

[undone cairn]

that might work

and be implementable in logic

lemme run through a large test case
123 % 13 (expecting result 6)
123 / 13 = 9.4615...
floor 9.4615... = 9
9 * 13 = 117
123 - 117 = 6

yeah thats totally able to be done in logic components

and you shouldn't have float rounding errors since you're doing a floor

the only issue is how accurate is the floor? can we floor with as many digits as we want

trivial test case 2 % 2 = 0
2 / 2 = 1
floor 1 = 1
1 * 2 = 2
2 - 2 = 0

and this works as a floor so thats easy

yep it works

modulo operation in 5 components

here's how you do it. number splitter and combiner are stacked on top of each other, and wired up completely with one another. there may be tick issues with the output coming out so be aware of that, you'll probably want to sync the last calculator by adding a few tethers between some lines

specifically, you'll want 3 tethers between the red input and the subtraction calculator, and 2 tethers between the yellow input and the multiplication calculator. here's what that might look like

[undone cairn]

figured it out lol

[shrewd mesa]

good for you

its not that complicated really... you just have to convert this equation

a-(b*(a//b))

which is what you sent earlier from what I see

[undone cairn]

ye

if you need it in oaklands there u go

[violet crane]

Bump

[stable lotus]

oh is that one above for splitting into several conveyors?

im planning into separating my jar machine into 3 or so because its so so slow

[violet crane]

So what part needs splitting, the fruit input I'm guessing? And it should spread between all 3?

[violet crane]

Bump

[violet crane]

Bump

[frail surge]

im sorry , i just curious what this logic use for ? hard to scroll chat i dont get it

[undone cairn]

modulo operation

it takes two values and performs the modulo operator on them

so for example, 5 % 3 = 2

[frail surge]

alr thanks

[hallow mirage]

now we just need a square root calculator 😭

[undone cairn]

i wonder if implementing fast inverse square root is possible in logic

[hallow mirage]

you would prob have a ton of rounding error but you can actually implement iterative stuff easily

[undone cairn]

the thing about fisr is that it only needs like 1 iteration to fix the approximation

[hallow mirage]

due to how the logic in the game works it might not be the best either

stuff that use binary to be faster are a bit useless in oakland

[undone cairn]

i would post the code that was used in quake 3 arena, but it has a swear word in it

[hallow mirage]

[violet crane]

I feel this isnt my logic help thread anymore 😭

You folks sound too smart

[undone cairn]

we do a bit of trolling

[violet crane]

yis

yeah but but, I made this 🙂

[undone cairn]

thats cool lol

[undone cairn]

anyway here's the code

[violet crane]

Making the logic for the alarm nows

[hallow mirage]

i dont really see a use for square root but it would be cool

[undone cairn]

if you can do square root you can do graphics

[violet crane]

I wish Custom Vinyls were cheaper

or at least if you bought multiple

I want like 5 but £1 each is crazy

[undone cairn]

could prolly buy in bulk from another player, do people still do that

[violet crane]

No but custom vinyls

[undone cairn]

yeah they can make em for you

[violet crane]

like sound effects

oh

Yeah but how do they make any money?

[undone cairn]

though using vinyls for sound effects is interesting

[undone cairn]

you pay them ingame

[hallow mirage]

chatgpt tells me this is goog

[violet crane]

Yeah but surely they just lose robux 😭

[undone cairn]

its like trading ingame money for gamepass gifts, people do it

[violet crane]

true

[hallow mirage]

that might be easier to implement

[undone cairn]

they do it at a much higher money to robux ratio than you can get through buying money with robux

[violet crane]

Ah

[undone cairn]

guys i may be stupid

[violet crane]

nuh uh

[undone cairn]

i remembered we have an exponent mode in the calculator

[violet crane]

xD

[undone cairn]

can we just put 0.5 into the right input of that and get the square root

[violet crane]

I was gonna suggest that weird mode earlier (Because i dont understand it, but i thought it was square root), but I didnt wanna lead you down the wrong path xD

[undone cairn]

it has the exponent symbol so id assume it's exponent

ill test if the decimal values work for it

yeah it works lmao

[hallow mirage]

breh

[undone cairn]

yeah and its accurate too

good ol modern day

so yeah square root is possible

[hallow mirage]

so now its not useless yipee

[violet crane]

YIPEEEE

[hallow mirage]

i can finnaly add an extra step to my comparison and make it slower

[violet crane]

(This doesnt help me in the slightest)

[undone cairn]

🔥

[hallow mirage]

do you know a good way to get the absolute difference between two number without having to move em around too much?

cause i need to sort them first with the thing i use currently

[undone cairn]

well given we only have positive numbers on wires

[hallow mirage]

from biggest to smallest

[undone cairn]

you could run two subtract operations

a - b and b - a

[hallow mirage]

ah yeah

that might be faster

[undone cairn]

one of those has to be greater than 0, and one has to be less than

unless they're equal in which case both will be 0

so just take both outputs

you could just run them at the same time

[hallow mirage]

if doing one is too slow just do both

[undone cairn]

like 2 subtract calculators wired to the same input values

[hallow mirage]

yeah

[undone cairn]

and then combine the outputs and blam

[hallow mirage]

also the number splitter is a bit dumb

[violet crane]

Made this tho 🔥

[hallow mirage]

like when you input "0101" it just outputs "101"

[undone cairn]

though if you have negative numbers in your calculator you will have to do a different thing

[hallow mirage]

so you need to have another number in front each time

[undone cairn]

i mean yeah? why would it keep a leading 0

0101 is equivalent to 101

[hallow mirage]

i mean number interface can hold the 0

i dont see why the splitter wouldnt

[undone cairn]

if you put 000000001 into a number interface it will output 1

[hallow mirage]

sad

[undone cairn]

i dont see why you would need leading zeroes though?

[hallow mirage]

i have to add an extra number in 300 number interface to save up another game tick 😭

[undone cairn]

why do you need a leading zero

wires dont output leading zeroes at all

[hallow mirage]

for walls in pacman i store like "1122"

[undone cairn]

because they output numbers not strings

[hallow mirage]

so it knows where the walls are

[undone cairn]

so just store 1-x instead of 0-x

[hallow mirage]

yeah i do that

[undone cairn]

0 is a dead signal so you cant use it for comparisons anyway

[hallow mirage]

but it would use one or two less gate to store 90101 and just throw the 9 away

[undone cairn]

...but 0101 is equivalent to 101

and would output the same signals on the number splitter

same as 90101 if you toss the 9 anyway

[hallow mirage]

i just take the output of the splitter and use em to block input of my keypad

[undone cairn]

because the 2nd and 4th outputs will still be 0

regardless of the 5th digit

[hallow mirage]

yeah 0 so it allows it to go trough

1 it doesnt

[undone cairn]

so why is the leading zeroes being removed an issue

because it'll still read it as a 0 and let it through

[hallow mirage]

because it moves the "position " of the outputs

[undone cairn]

but it doesnt??????

[hallow mirage]

holdup ill make a diagram

[undone cairn]

i still dont see the issue, i just put in 0110 and the 4th wire is a 0

[hallow mirage]

the first one would be a 1 tho

[undone cairn]

it... isn't...

reminder that this is how number splitters output

lowest digit top leftmost output

[hallow mirage]

the top one is 0110 the bottom one is 110

[undone cairn]

i need to see your wiring for this you have to have it wired wrong

are you reading digits from the FRONT???

so you're actually reading 110 as 1100

so that is why leading zeroes are an issue

[hallow mirage]

each splitter output is directly wired to a direction

[undone cairn]

then unless you wired it incorrectly, i don't see why the inclusion of a leading zero changes your outputs

[hallow mirage]

0110 i want the first one to be 0

[undone cairn]

[hallow mirage]

in this case it would be 1

because the 0 isnt included

so i just add a random number

[undone cairn]

you should seriously be thinking in terms of least significant digit first

least significant digit as in, 1234 --> 4 is the least significant digit

this means it won't be affected by anything around it, like leading zeroes

[hallow mirage]

ill make smthing with lcds so you understand

[undone cairn]

using 9's so it shows up

i think i do understand, i think you're just doing it in a manner that causes issues

you're using the most significant digit as your first value that you want to read

so if you want to read a 0 as your first value, you can't because leading zeroes aren't saved as numbers

[hallow mirage]

you can have 0's anywhere

[undone cairn]

not in a number you can't

or a wire, all leading zeroes are trimmed

[hallow mirage]

i dont use it as a number

[undone cairn]

yes you do??? you put it in a number interface???

[hallow mirage]

i just compress 4 different on / off signal

[undone cairn]

and wires output with numbers

whatever you put into the number interface doesn't matter because it's converted to a number with no leading zeroes

[hallow mirage]

ok ill explain with 1s and 2s

1 is air 2 is a wall

2222 means you are surrounded by walls

1112 means theres a wall on your left

if you used 1s and 0s instead

[undone cairn]

in this representation, you would have no issues with it

but again, you're considering the 4th place digit as your 1st value

[hallow mirage]

0001 would be a wall on top of you because the 1 get shifted to first place

[undone cairn]

i think your main issue is you're saying that the thousands place has to be your first value that you read, and the ones place as your last value

or something i dont know the exact reason

but there is ZERO reason why 0110 would be interpreted differently than 110

unless you're somehow padding the numbers in the back to fit as 4 digits into 1100 instead

[hallow mirage]

the 1 wouldnt be at the correct splitting output

[undone cairn]

but thats what im saying!!! it doesn't move where it is in the splitter with leading zeroes!!!

this is why binary calculates stuff with the least significant bit on the right as 1, and values to the left are higher

but im just assuming because i dont knwo what the wires look like

[hallow mirage]

each splitting output is a direction

[undone cairn]

i understand that

[hallow mirage]

they dont combine back later or anything

[undone cairn]

which digits of the output are mapped to each direction

[hallow mirage]

i just split them because its easier to store it all at once

[undone cairn]

you're talking to the guy that stored text as binary i think i understand that part

what digits of your number go to what directions?

[hallow mirage]

it goes clockwise

first one is top

[undone cairn]

first one

[hallow mirage]

4th one is left

[undone cairn]

so would 1000 be the top is a wall

[hallow mirage]

yes

[undone cairn]

and 0001 is left

[hallow mirage]

yes

but the 0001 would be interpreted as 1000

[undone cairn]

okay WHY is that the case

that is straight up a problem with your wires

[hallow mirage]

ok ill phrase it another way

if you input 11111 in a number splitter all of its output would be 1

[undone cairn]

yes, that's how that works

[hallow mirage]

if you input 10001 the ones on the edge would be 1s but the 3 in the middle would be 0

[undone cairn]

okay i understand that

what part is causing your numbers to shift a 1 into a 1000 though

[hallow mirage]

if i input 11112 only one of the side will be a 2

[undone cairn]

like why does it interpret 1 as 1000

[hallow mirage]

and all of the rest will be a one

[undone cairn]

and not as 0001

[undone cairn]

okay dude ive used number splitters before, what part about this is so special

i know which outputs map to each digit

[hallow mirage]

well if i input 00001 the side in wich the 1s come from

aka the 2

[undone cairn]

it will output 1 on the top left output

red wire in mine

[hallow mirage]

it inerprets 1 as 10000

[undone cairn]

OKAY WHY IS THIS

it does NOT DO THIS on my end

i need to see your wiring

[hallow mirage]

if you input a 1 in a splitter

one of the output will be a one right?

and the rest will all be 0s

[undone cairn]

yeah? and it's always the top left output

because it's 1, in the one's place

if you input 01, 1 is in the one's place, so it outputs 1 on the red wire

and so on

[hallow mirage]

00100 and 00001 give the same exact output in the same exact positions

[undone cairn]

okay

i cant take this anymore send a screenshot of your wires

[hallow mirage]

except those are very different wall config

[undone cairn]

there is ZERO reason why 1 and 100 are interpreted as the same numbers

[hallow mirage]

0110 doesnt equal 0011

[undone cairn]

im genuinely curious about your wires

[hallow mirage]

[undone cairn]

you are using One. digit.

[undone cairn]

are you ina server

i want to see this in person so i can figure this out

[hallow mirage]

i can join you

[undone cairn]

krazybigj

[hallow mirage]

oh a public

thats gonne be laggy

[undone cairn]

i dont have a priv

do you have one

[hallow mirage]

you have access to someones priv?

[undone cairn]

i do not

[hallow mirage]

ah

[undone cairn]

just join whatever this server doesnt have big bases exceptm ine

[hallow mirage]

kk

[undone cairn]

nvm i got one

[hallow mirage]

it all works and i have the solution to make it with 1s and 0s

[undone cairn]

https://www.roblox.com/share?code=bc99e025d9e08043b83af15820545ec7&type=Server

[hallow mirage]

just want you to understand lol

[hallow mirage]

thx

[undone cairn]

i understand clearly i just don't know why the hell your wires are interpreting numbers differently

1 should NOT be interpreted as 10000 in ANY circumstance

[flat crescent]

Anyways to make is smaller

It's for my unloading system

Handwriting is bad because these are my personal notes

[hallow mirage]

@undone cairn

@undone cairn this is with tethers

purely esthetics but loses 2 ticks of delay

[undone cairn]

yeah thats nice

[hallow mirage]

you can clearly see where each wire goes

[undone cairn]

i still think the solution is to go with an entirely different way that doesnt hardcode every possible position of pacman

but you can't rlly do that at this point so

[hallow mirage]

i could

this is only 20% of the display so it would be worth it to switch

[undone cairn]

you'd have to redo the entire collision system

[hallow mirage]

i have to do that 4 more times

[undone cairn]

id have to like lab it a bit more but like

how large is the pacman grid?

[hallow mirage]

28x36

if you count everything

[undone cairn]

yeah that easily could fit in number interfaces

you'd have to do 2 per row and 2 per column

[hallow mirage]

so you would just compress each tile into like a collumn and deocde it?

[undone cairn]

yeah pretty much

[hallow mirage]

i mean yeah it would save some interface

[undone cairn]

and you could use a bit shift operation on the player's x and y

[hallow mirage]

but it would also make it way slower

[undone cairn]

so you could take the one column/row of movement data

and bit shift the data down

then interpret it

[hallow mirage]

same stuff , no tethers

[undone cairn]

so for example let's say that the up movement data, with 0's for movement and 1 for no movement, is 10000001

and the user's y position is 0

[hallow mirage]

i didnt count how many intersection there was

[undone cairn]

since the user's y position is 0 you'd check the first bit, which is 1, meaning they can't move up

[hallow mirage]

but you could just store those

[undone cairn]

that as well, but that means you're hard coding every corridor

[hallow mirage]

i have to hard code pretty much everything to keep it running at a good rate :/

decoding is only viable in stuff where speed isnt really a problem

[undone cairn]

i dont think you have to make the runtime tradeoff if you can do it right

like swapping the memory bank to the next column will not take long

[hallow mirage]

currently the loop is ~4 gates

and thats barely 18hz

how many tether would be 15 hz btw?

[undone cairn]

lemme see

1. AND gate check for x/y
2. relay opens to let collision data through
3. collision data goes into 1st calculator and is divided to the right value
4. divided data goes into binary out
5. binary out sends collision bit out
6. collision bit goes to player control

[undone cairn]

it's 60 ticks per second so

4 tethers

[hallow mirage]

that would be 10hz

[undone cairn]

keep in mind that you can do calculations in parallel

idk

[hallow mirage]

i think its 60/number of gate

[undone cairn]

it should be

[hallow mirage]

for max rate

[undone cairn]

but you can also run calculations at the same time through the same gates if you know the next values

so you could make players move from tile to tile multiple times per full cycle

[hallow mirage]

the calculation is based on the result of the previous one

[undone cairn]

there's prolly smthn you can do, but i think 0.1 seconds of delay is acceptable

[hallow mirage]

that would make pacman look very stutery and slow :/

[undone cairn]

movement in the same column for example doesn't need an extra check for y changes

it just shifts the bit with the divide, which would take less time

[hallow mirage]

keep in mind 4 gates is pretty much the max

[undone cairn]

eh ok its about the same

yeah idk you'd have to figure it out

ill mess with it later i got stuff to do

[hallow mirage]

oke

for the 4 ghost i have a logic system that can lanage a theoretical infinite number of them

but the tradeoff is time

and making one decoder per ghost is only like +30% components

[undone cairn]

time doesnt matter as much for the ghosts bc they're not controlled by the players

[hallow mirage]

they go as fast as the player tho

and have to make a decision of where to go each time

[undone cairn]

that you could use the intersection system for

[hallow mirage]

yesnt

[undone cairn]

and a node based movement system

just have them move from intersection to intersection

would be good enough

[hallow mirage]

i already have every cell walls encoded

might as well

[undone cairn]

sunk cost fallacy

[hallow mirage]

not really

cause its an arguably better option

[undone cairn]

well whatevrr you choose, good luck

[hallow mirage]

like in term of building its a pain but in term of having the thing function its better

kk

[hallow mirage]

are you sure transmitter + reciver = tether?

[undone cairn]

is the XOR to make it output once when the switch is flipped?

[undone cairn]

im not certain actually it could be 2 calculation ticks

you should test it

[hallow mirage]

oh yeah its 2

[undone cairn]

yknow what you could do for a speed up is that you can assume that the movement goes through and calculate for that, and use the collision data from the last frame to either allow or deny that from being committed? idk

shrug im out of ideas

[hallow mirage]

i could pre calculate intersection 💀

[undone cairn]

whatever you choose to do, imma make my own little thing later lol

[hallow mirage]

oke

lmk if you need help speedin it up

[undone cairn]

on a small scale just to test if the collision detection works

[undone cairn]

I think im good

im thinking ill just use pressure plates so if you're standing on it it'll move the character continuously

[hallow mirage]

be careful with those

if you stand on two at the same time

/move to quickly

it can mess up things

[undone cairn]

i can always use blockers to prefer certain directions

or just allow diagonal movement lol

[hallow mirage]

fair

im pretty happy with the 1 gate only matrix decoder

[undone cairn]

for me the logic cost is absolutely unacceptable

but im not making games in oaklands so

[hallow mirage]

yeah

stuff like billboards

are crazy

[undone cairn]

for my purposes i can have a delay cuz the end product runs on its own

[hallow mirage]

the screen alone with no logic is like 5 mil

[undone cairn]

dear god

[hallow mirage]

and i think the estimated cost for all of the gate is another 5

[undone cairn]

yeah that is absolutely unacceptable for me lol, my sign cost at most 500-700k

prolly much less

[hallow mirage]

also some random stuff (im looking at you blockers ) are expensive for no reason

[undone cairn]

they made them cheaper thankfully

[hallow mirage]

when?

theyre still like 1.2k

[undone cairn]

like this update

rlly? thought it was in the notes

[hallow mirage]

o:

[undone cairn]

i didn't actually go check so

[hallow mirage]

relays are better anyway but still 💀

[undone cairn]

blocker better if you don't want to waste extra logic on a not gate

increases the gate cost

[hallow mirage]

sometimes its the other way around

[undone cairn]

depends on the scenario

[hallow mirage]

most of the time

yeah

[undone cairn]

sometimes you need functionality on high, sometimes on low

[hallow mirage]

also i was thinking alot about snake

like

the head and body and turns

you could store the last few inputs and output the correct body part based on that

but how would you do that for the tail

[undone cairn]

i dont know how snake is actually implemented so id have to look that up

[hallow mirage]

for a simple display (aka LCDS ) its a simple a point that moves around with decrementer

like each refresh you move the dot and set current tile to the lenght of the snake

and decrease every other tile by 1

[undone cairn]

i understand that i just gotta look up how other people move the tail

[hallow mirage]

oh nvm i found a way

dw

[flat crescent]

Yes, it outputs power to all the relays and it repeats the power input into the interactor, and the slider is for adjusting the amount of power goes into the interactor

I drew this for my digital electronics teacher and I changed the interactor to a "light" to make it easier for him to know what's going on

[undone cairn]

you could probably just use a frequency for that

frequency just pulses on and off with the given signal

[flat crescent]

How could I incorporate the slider into it?

The system interacts with the storage crate

I adjust the slider to change how much the storage crate outputs

Is that possible to run with a frequency?

[undone cairn]

replace everything going into the right port of the relay with the slider* with just a switch going into a frequency

[flat crescent]

So I could get rid of that relay

[undone cairn]

the frequency should basically replace the functionality of the xor, relay, and delay

combine 3 things into a single component that does the same thing

[flat crescent]

Oh ok

Thank you I'll do some testing when I get home

[undone cairn]

yep

[flat crescent]

[stable lotus]

yea

[violet crane]

My new system! Works a treat, It can switch between both paths by the controller at the top, which defines which finish you require. Now just to make the return path up!

The yellow dividers are also controlled to stop stray naughty ores from escaping the desired path too

[violet crane]

Full system works! Im so happy

Finally found a way to transport items up really well!

[violet crane]

The organisation is unbeatable

Ive learnt to add context tags to everything for upgradability and future understanding

Like coming back to this after just an hour, i forgot a bunch

but they helped, and im back on track 🙂

Ive also made everything on "wafers", which are the Palladium slices, And its really helpful to section the logic

[violet crane]

Now fully functional

I made these emergency downlights too

And this is the logic

[hallow mirage]

are those alignment?

[violet crane]

No, Only the first one

Before it gets to the sander/refiner

[hallow mirage]

kk

cause you can use aligment conveyor to route thing very efficiently

[violet crane]

yis

The only thing with that, is there is a cooldown with them so it wouldnt be too much faster

[hazy mountain]

You can put them rotated and have it send stuff instantly into machines

Like from a drawer into 10 different path instantly

[violet crane]

Oh nice

[bronze tangle]

how do i make a electronic billboard turn on and off

nvm i just use a frequency

[bronze tangle]

oh also is there a way to keep an elevator up

or does it always just go down when you leave and rejoin

[bronze tangle]

what is a good way to make a elevator for a truck with trailers actually? so far just using a simple switch with an interactor

[bronze tangle]

the problem with this though is the switch in the basement is activated i can't lower the elevator anymore since its activated the switch on the top does absolutely nothing

what do i use instead of the switch or how do i cancel out the switch in the basement

[violet crane]

Instead of switches, use a button at the top and the bottom, feed both of them into a T-Flip Flop which runs into the interactor

[bronze tangle]

alright, i found this tutorial on it too https://youtu.be/Am4XQnm6ApA

[violet crane]

Nice

[undone cairn]

it always starts at the bottom on join, you can use an interactor feeding it a signal to make it go to the set number when it loads tho

[bronze tangle]

yea

[turbid niche]

how could one make a storage drawer drop like 30 things at one

[hazy mountain]

Max is 10 per interactor so 3 interactor set to 10

Or just spam 1 interactor really quickly

[turbid niche]

how does one set an interactor to 10

[violet crane]

Just input 10 into it, with a button etc

[bronze tangle]

what do you use with proximities to filter out untrusted people

nvm proximities kind of suck 15 studs is like absolutely nothing for what i want to do

there should be a proximity+ that either has customizable range or like 50 studs

[undone cairn]

yeah you kinda need like a lot of proximitys to do anything

[bronze tangle]

yea

[bronze tangle]

can't do that though here though because

wanted to make a garage that closed by itself but yea

gonna use something else than proximities lol

[undone cairn]

i believe lasers may get blocked by garage doors? i know they get blocked by normal doors

you could use those and then send a pulse to the door to close it

[bronze tangle]

alright ill look into that

[undone cairn]

if the laser detects the garage door in the open position or smthn

[bronze tangle]

and then like what do i set a timer for it to close if it detects that

[undone cairn]

pretty much yeah

[bronze tangle]

alright

[undone cairn]

i made a crappy setup for one of my own doors, no idea if it'll work for garage doors tho

it was also a bit tough to hide

but you may be able to take advantage of how lasers will keep going through blocks that they are inside, and you could extend the garage door down into the floor slightly

like this is my system on the outside of a door

[bronze tangle]

alright

[violet crane]

I know right

[violet crane]

Bump

[violet crane]

Bump

[undone cairn]

thinking of finally making that idea i had that will let me access all logic components with chat commands

[violet crane]

Oo

Very nice

[undone cairn]

conceptually it's simple, just interactors with boxes of logic

[violet crane]

Alot of commands to remember lol

[undone cairn]

the logistics comes in dispensing new boxes when old ones run out

[undone cairn]

eh it'll just be the names of every item pretty much

and then maybe some other fail-safes like detecting if it's empty or smthn

the mini storage drawers will come in handy here cuz each box will have 25 in it

[violet crane]

I want to make a logic component dispenser but its gonna be hard

and id have to buy logic components individually

[undone cairn]

like a store for them? dispensing 1 at a time or smthn

[violet crane]

yeah

[undone cairn]

yeah def a bit overkill lol

would be cool but it's easier to just drive to the store for a box of 25 atp

[violet crane]

Wait, if you put a stack of components into a storage drawer, Can you output them individually or does it just drop the stack?

Im guessing the later

[undone cairn]

it drops the box you put in

so if you put a box of 25 it'll output the same box of 25

which is the functionality i need for my chat command thing

but uh yeah wouldn't work for your design cuz you'd have to buy boxes of 1 at a time

which i mean you COULD do but i doubt anyone would want boxes of 1 item either

but uh yeah the underlying logic isn't difficult, just need to have the drawers accessible for reloading and space for the boxes to go onto pressure plates

and then a lot of region management for all the interactors smh

[undone cairn]

the vision

i spent 1.2mil on getting 25x of all the logic i wanted for this

[violet crane]

Yeah I didn't wanna be doing that, it outweighs the convenience that the machine would provide

[violet crane]

Jesus

[undone cairn]

it's beautiful

of course i didnt hook up any of the buttons

[undone cairn]

ok buttons are connected we gaming

[violet crane]

Indeed

Firee

[violet crane]

Bump

[flat crescent]

For a long while now I've wanted to have a 50/50 system with my materials. So if I have 100 rocks, 50 will be in my trailer and 50 will be in my truck

But I've never been able to come up with a way to separate them equally

I was thinking of using lasers, so whenever a material broke the laser it would send the next one to the other direction

The 4way is facing the wrong direction but don't worry about that

I'll give that some time to simmer and take a break from this

[flat crescent]

Bump

[violet crane]

Apologies for my very late response, Ive been thinking about the splitting system

You could have a toggling splitter, so each time the item breaks the laser, it toggles the path

But tell me, Does it ONLY split if its all the same item?

[flat crescent]

It shouldn't matter what the item is

When it splits

I just want the number of materials to be 50/50 between my truck and trailer

Or maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying

[bronze tangle]

this is how you make a chat car respawner without having randoms respawn your car lol right?

[violet crane]

Almost, Replace the Relay with an AND gate, and set the interface to 10

[bronze tangle]

alright

[violet crane]

so you dont want the items to be sorted and then split?

[bronze tangle]

oh yea also what are some good youtube video setups for auto unloaders this is mine rn lol (yea its just for sapphire lol)

[violet crane]

you can easily split the items if you dont want it to be sorted

[violet crane]

Honestly i just had a storage drawer on a long conveyor line for my car to drive on, and that rapidly spit out the items onto a seperate line. Though with that, you need to use some method of slowing the flow

[bronze tangle]

so like a frequency?

[violet crane]

i used a hz clock to rapidly output items

[undone cairn]

they made it so that chat commanders must be toggled to public to even react to other messages

so you can just connect it directly to the interactor with no issue

as long as it isn't public

[violet crane]

Oh really?

[undone cairn]

yea

[violet crane]

Thats awesome

[undone cairn]

if you toggle it to public then yeah you gotta use an AND gate or smthn

[bronze tangle]

i just use a frequency they're mostly reliable at low values

at higher values like 300 seconds it becomes pretty unreliable

300 seconds feels more like 600 because of lag probably

[bronze tangle]

they should update that description probably

[undone cairn]

yeaaaaaa

[flat crescent]

How

Also I don't care for it to filter wood and rocks I'm more worried about getting half of my materials evenly dispersed into my truck and trailer

[violet crane]

Awesome

[flat crescent]

If I had 100 rocks, 50 would be in the truck, and 50 in the trailer:)

[violet crane]

So my thought was to have a laser trigger a T-Flip Flop. So everytime i senses each item, it changes the T-Flip Flop between off and on, which could be used to switch between two directions; your car and trailer.

My only thought is if there are loads of items, it might not see the gap between the items, counting it as one item

[undone cairn]

id do a different approach; if every item is in a drawer, you can specifically time outputting an item with changing the direction on an alignment conveyor

so it will output 1 item in one direction, 1 in the other, and repeat

and just run that on a timer with a pressure plate toggle or something idk

[violet crane]

actually alignment conveyors are a good idea.

gets the items moved quicker

plus there's no cooldown to worry about if they're seperate items

[flat crescent]

So I could have them move into a storage crate (which I already planned to do) and from there have a alignment conveyor that's switching directions each time it's outputted

I already have a output system for my crates where I can adjust how many are outputted and how quickly

I'll work on it tomorrow but I'm gonna head to bed, if you guys don't mind making a mockup version if you have the time that would be much appreciated

Probably gonna build it underneath my basement floor so that when it splits the materials they are put into 2 storage crates under the spawners for my truck and trailer and will move the rock up into them from the bottom

[violet crane]

Oh right i see okay, I can try and scratch out a diagram

[flat crescent]

I'm cooking something up rn

[flat crescent]

Here was one of my test runs

[violet crane]

Did you try the laser toggle idea? Or is it a frequency clock?

[flat crescent]

HOLD ON LET ME SORT MY MESSAGES SO THEY MAKE SENSE

This is before I added the 2nd interactor to the crate

Added the 2nd interactor - when the first one stops interacting with the crate the 2nd one does

Testing the 2nd interactor

[violet crane]

Have you checked the regions and make sure they dont cover anything else? If not, maybe try selecting and replacing the interactor, Sometimes gets bugged

[flat crescent]

Everything is check out

Each time the crate is interacted with the alignment conveyor does to because they're running off the same frequency

But I had to add a second interactor to the crate because without it, it would only spit it out one side

[flat crescent]

Like this

[violet crane]

So you solved it?

[flat crescent]

Yes

I'm fine tuning the frequency rn

Out of 10 rocks I got it split 4 in the left one and 6 in the right

[violet crane]

Ah okay

Did you try the laser system? The items seem farely distanced

I believe it would work really well

[flat crescent]

I did but sometimes they didn't trigger the laser

[violet crane]

hm strange, i found that too in my system

maybe try repositioning the laser?

[flat crescent]

5/4

I missed one

It's in one of my random storage crates

I did it with 8

4 in the left 4 in the right

Solved.

[violet crane]

awesome 🙂

Im so glad you figured it out yourself

[flat crescent]

I'll send the final test clip in here

I based it off of what you guys were saying so thank you for the help

It's 2 minutes and I'm on console so I have to wait a while

[violet crane]

okay nw

[flat crescent]

Can't send

[violet crane]

too big?

[flat crescent]

Yeah

Mb

[violet crane]

Nw

[pearl sky]

@violet crane how good would you say you are?

[tawdry topaz]

hi i was wondering if you could help? Im trying to get the red laser (circled in blue) to flip the conveyer (circled in red) 180 degrees. above is my logic for it right now and the value of the number interface is 8

[violet crane]

Id say im pretty good, Im no good at bits and binary though. I made an entire self service shop that runs with logic.

[violet crane]

Absolutely can help! Which conveyor type is it? I would run the laser into a NOT gate, then into a sustainer, then into the right side of a relay. That relay then goes to the interactor

So when the laser is broken, it stops outputting the signal to make the conveyor go right, so it will go left (for example). Im not sure which directions you want it to go

[tawdry topaz]

its a 4 way conveyer

[tawdry topaz]

i want it to go left and right\

[violet crane]

I find them annoying to find the values which make them change direction, I dont remember them lol. What about using borderless conveyors if you're only going 2 directions?

[tawdry topaz]

good idea, ill try that

it works @violet crane ty!

[violet crane]

Yippeee! Your welcome 🤗

[tawdry topaz]

i need help again, do you know why my coliders arent working with my conveyers? it works with schematics but not conveyers for some reason. (1st photo is my logic and second is the region of my coliders)

[violet crane]

Yeah so colliders only work with Schematics, not structures. It sucks completely

[tawdry topaz]

ohh

[violet crane]

You could always try an extending conveyor

[tawdry topaz]

how do those work? can you give me a quick rundown

[violet crane]

So normally they are just an ordinary conveyor, but when triggered, the conveyor belt slides back and items can drop down

[tawdry topaz]

ohh

[violet crane]

They're pretty good

[tawdry topaz]

so if i wanted to replace my current conveyers with extending, i will have to swap my coliders with interactors?

[violet crane]

Yes

I would make a seperate test bit with the extending conveyors to make sure they fit your system, im not sure of their max dimensions

[tawdry topaz]

alr

alright it works well thanks!

[violet crane]

Brilliant! No worries 😁

[pearl sky]

@violet crane would you like to be one of my logic techs

[violet crane]

Hm, what does it involve?

[hasty haven]

Good evening
This seems to be one of the more active logic help posts

Basically, I'm having an issue where a sustainer is pulsing after it finishes it's allotted time. I'll do the 5 seconds, unpower, repower for a moment then go back to being unpowered

I have found no reason for this to be happening, and it's never happened before

.
I'm recording a video of it atm, to give a better visualisation of it

[violet crane]

Good evening mate! That seems odd, ive not found that. Are you definitely sure the sustainer is doing that, and nothing connected? You might be able to select the component and replace it down, can fix some bugs like that

[violet crane]

Awesome, thank you

[hasty haven]

I've moved it twice and the issue is persisting

[violet crane]

have you reloaded your game?

[hasty haven]

Also tried that, yes

[violet crane]

i had a different bug which didnt stop until i restarted the game

but as you've tried that, hmm...

[hasty haven]

Dammit- Forgot my camera mic was on D:

[violet crane]

ahahah I was gonna say stop cracking your knuckles or whatever it was 😄

is the wire inputting into the sustainer flickering or pulsing?

[hasty haven]

The bulb to the right of the issue one is linked to the input of the sustainer

it does pulse slightly, but not before the timer of the sustainer completes

[violet crane]

rightttt okay

is there any way to eliminate that second pulse?

i feel like for some reason the sustainer is stacking it up

[hasty haven]

Not really. It comes from an elevator moving through a laser detector. It activates the first time from the thing actually on the elevator, then the second is from the elevator itself

[violet crane]

how about...

hmm

[hasty haven]

I would just rely on timing, but I have no clue how tall the elevator's movement will be in the final use of the thing. This is mostly just a mockup so I can troubleshoot issues

[violet crane]

oh its timing based?

[hasty haven]

Not at the moment, no

[violet crane]

i was gonna suggest using a t flip flop

so the first pulse turns it on, second turns it off

then that could run into the sustainer

so then it would only recieve one pulse

[hasty haven]

The sustainer is there so that the two pulses don't affect a later flip flop

[violet crane]

maybe try a flip flop going into the sustainer

[hasty haven]

I'll try it, see how that works out

[violet crane]

awesome

[hasty haven]

Ending up with issues where it sometimes won't pick up on the second signal, resulting in it not activating correctly

[violet crane]

so ultimately issues with the laser inconsistency

[hasty haven]

Mhm
I'll tinker around with it, see if I can identify the cause of the sustainer issue

Thanks for the help!

[violet crane]

No worries, if you need help again you know where to come 🙂 Hopefully i can help you with your next issue

[flat crescent]

I'm back

Anyone have an automatic shop thingy?

Where after donating to a donator the item outputs from a storage crate then clears ownership?

[flat crescent]

Nvm I built it myself:)

[violet crane]

How'd you achieve it? Glad you managed to do it yourself 😄

[pearl sky]

geting paid by the job we have our own bilding a logi room for testing logic

[violet crane]

Hm ill have a look, Though my I like to offer my advice for free.

And i had hopes of starting my own company

[pearl sky]

#1340078508734545920 is where the hires a taking place

[violet crane]

Okay, I'll have a look at your business, but im not sure if I'll join

[flat crescent]

I have a logic room

I left ton of room for stuff

It's a little different now tho

[violet crane]

Wowwy

I need a logic room fr

[flat crescent]

All the bricks are a schematic

Ofc

[violet crane]

Oof painful

Have you got a material gun?

[flat crescent]

Yes

[violet crane]

I remember when i didnt

Sooo painful

[flat crescent]

I had a pretty big base before it was even added

So much blackstone farmed

[violet crane]

Oof

[flat crescent]

I'm loading in

[violet crane]

I remember going up on an extremely slow elevator with some blocks of iron to fill in the top cladding pieces of my base

And often those iron ingots would fall through the elevator at the top :c

[flat crescent]

I always just used ladders

Here's my logic room

[violet crane]

Most of the time I'd just pull the schematic down and fill it

[flat crescent]

My Xbox app isn't updating any of the clips or images so I can't download any of them from the app

[violet crane]

Looks super cool mate

I like the logic gate truth tables

[flat crescent]

I also have a Oaklands notebook with all my stuff

I'm really into this game.

Anyways I'm going to bed

[violet crane]

Ahaha i can relate

Goodnight mate, Have a nice sleep

[flat crescent]

[violet crane]

Its only 6am for me lol

[tawdry topaz]

this isnt so much logic help but im bored, what should i make with logic? (I have an auto loader/unloader, weather detector, automatic jam machine)

[violet crane]

Make a video player 😭

Im joking

Its possible but hard and overcomplicated

[tawdry topaz]

like... connected to the internet 😭

[violet crane]

Nono

Basically goes through billboard frames in rapic succession

[tawdry topaz]

oh

if theres a tutorial ill make one

[violet crane]

It would work but you'd have to upload a ton of franes to roblox

[tawdry topaz]

im gonna make a whole family guy episode 😭

[violet crane]

I highly doubt its a tutorial but i wonder if someone's made it

[violet crane]

Better start coding a bot to upload your frames then 😭

[tawdry topaz]

hmm

[violet crane]

The painful thing is you might upload tons of frames, but one might have not uploaded properly so you'd have to find that one somehow and reupload it

[tawdry topaz]

im gonna make a gif but idk if its gonna be allowed on roblox 😭

wish me luck

[violet crane]

I was gonna do something similia4

Similar, ive never got round to it tho

Im tryna finish my base before i make anymore big mahines

[tawdry topaz]

ok this will have like 20 frames

[violet crane]

You'd have to have a clock counting up the frames, then an AND gate and number interface per each frame

Its not hard but extremely repetitive

[tawdry topaz]

theres a clock logic??

how have i never heard of this

[violet crane]

No but you can make it

I mean like, a counter

[tawdry topaz]

ill find a tutorial i guess

[violet crane]

A metronome clock, just ticks through

[tawdry topaz]

ill start soon just gonna have dinner

[violet crane]

Sorta thing

[violet crane]

Okayy

Damn why is it so late for everyone

Just gone 7am for me 😔

[tawdry topaz]

its only 6pm

its not that late

[violet crane]

😭

I wish it was 6pm

[tawdry topaz]

@violet crane sorta like this?

https://youtu.be/nvrmTSDfqGY?si=v2DEdWoD3LD0qoci

[violet crane]

No not really

I meant more like a counter

[tawdry topaz]

oh

[violet crane]

But you can make clocks

Like they've done

They're usually bad tho

And run slow after a while

[tawdry topaz]

so like i have a counter cycling through every frame every 5 miliseconds or so

[violet crane]

Yeah

[tawdry topaz]

so sort of liek this one? https://youtu.be/_nLw45Cr-Og?si=ADwFCZVlCFeIyK62

[violet crane]

I guess yeah

But it just ticks up really fast

Then you'd need 2 number interfaces, 1 relay and 1 AND gate

Per frame

[tawdry topaz]

ok wait i think i get it

[violet crane]

Honestly it would work but its unreasonably reprtative and expensive

[tawdry topaz]

i have a lot of time and money to waste

wait how much money? like an estimate

[violet crane]

Haha fair enough then

[tawdry topaz]

im kinda running low rn lol

[violet crane]

No clue but it depends how many frames you have

[tawdry topaz]

let me count

[violet crane]

Just add up the cost of 2 number interfaces, 1 relay and 1 AND gate, then multiply that total by the amount of frames you need

[tawdry topaz]

ok it has 21 frames

[violet crane]

Right

[tawdry topaz]

ok its 2k per one of these so like 84k?

around that amount

[violet crane]

Yeah

Not too bad then

[tawdry topaz]

nvm lol i misscalculated its actually way cheaper

[violet crane]

Noice

[tawdry topaz]

files downloaded

time to upload to rooblox

[violet crane]

Have fun 😭

[tawdry topaz]

omg i just realised i have to remove the background of all of them

time to restart 😔

[violet crane]

😭

[tawdry topaz]

alright all of the photos are uploaded

finally

would you be able to help me at the start if possible? ill do all of the repetitive stuff

[violet crane]

Sadly im at work now 😕

I would otherwise

[tawdry topaz]

ah ok, would you be able to help tomorrow?

[violet crane]

Posssibbllyyy, depends because you're in a different time zone but if im up early, i should be able to

[tawdry topaz]

im in gmt+11 (aest)

if that helps in any way

[violet crane]

Im in GMT ☹️

[tawdry topaz]

i could probably be on at around 6:45 am (7:45 pm your time) if that works?

just depends how long i take to get ready for school

[violet crane]

I wont be able to tonight because im scheduled into a trucking convoy ☹️