#Factory Revision 7 | Documenting my process

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lunar spear
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Oh

ancient breach
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what happened to it when I put it in the ca

lunar spear
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When u was sitting and got out right?

ancient breach
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no

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I just placed the stack from the ground in and it exploded lol

lunar spear
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Lol

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Rare color?

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Ur car

ancient breach
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idk

lunar spear
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If u got statitic tool it can show rarity

ancient breach
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says common

north bobcat
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i have someone building this for me but way cheaper

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who can build it?

lunar spear
ancient breach
north bobcat
turbid pewter
lunar spear
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Yea happened to me my tree got there stuck

turbid pewter
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I got to somehow "artificially" slow it down 💀

ancient breach
turbid pewter
ancient breach
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shhh

turbid pewter
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I have to redesign like a part of it

ancient breach
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you haven't tried hard enough (just replace some with regular conveyers

wise rune
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🫤

fading spear
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Like 2 plankers into one

crisp rune
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@turbid pewter wha do you think?

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i press the button to activate the ACs ( it's currently bugged )

low scarab
crisp rune
primal flame
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hi, so is the new version done ? or it still need some fix. i cn help u if u want

turbid pewter
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And pinned msg

primal flame
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its humongus

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ig its not finished lol

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but i can see its almost done noice

inner charm
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finna try and build this factory

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i hope i ddont mess up redstone part chinathumb chinathumb chinathumb

torn bramble
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gonna try makin this

torn bramble
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do each of the plankers need a seprate conveyor inside them or just use full length ones (i think seprate r needed)

lunar spear
torn bramble
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there are only pics of the old design

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with not vertical plankers

lunar spear
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Oh yea

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Well its still not uploaded yet idk

torn bramble
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since the total amount is 72 alignment im just gonna put small conveyors in each of the plankers

lunar spear
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I got confused when i miss my tree log to be planked / sawed it teleports out wow

grizzled zenith
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how’d you get it to lock

turbid pewter
fading spear
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@turbid pewter

turbid pewter
fading spear
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👀

lunar spear
fading spear
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colliders

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using a chat commander

lunar spear
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Where is colliders?

wise rune
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on the glass

lunar spear
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That's interactor

turbid pewter
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No

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That's a collider

west quiver
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is that it kinda tupi ?

turbid pewter
lunar spear
west quiver
turbid pewter
west quiver
lunar spear
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Like how the wood tps to sander

turbid pewter
lunar spear
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I dont understand colliders

west quiver
turbid pewter
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I drive on the top layer, then respawn cars and toggle collider so they respawn and resources fall down.

west quiver
turbid pewter
west quiver
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ok

turbid pewter
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As technically the way you have it now is wasting the sanders bounding box

west quiver
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all this i too complicated for me i think

lunar spear
# wise rune

One question this is collider or interactor cus it looks similar to interactor

wise rune
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and having interactors on just glass wouldnt do anything lol

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(so thats how you know its a collider)

lunar spear
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Oh okay

fading spear
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I keep having issues where really long logs keep getting grabbed by my output alignment conveyor before they’re planked

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And I can’t figure out why

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I have alignment conveyors going downwards inside the plankers to get them away from the output yet I’m still having issues, thoughts?

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I’ll try to get a clip in a second

reef valve
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this is my build. the item lag is normally not there, theres just like 200+ trailers sitting around

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its simple and since i always move whole trees and not bite sized pieces for my sanders a sanding pad is good for me

grizzled zenith
# reef valve

what do you use as a blocker for the sander to stop planks coming out

torn bramble
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do i rly have to use elevators to stop the plankers from working (the lock mechanism thing)

turbid pewter
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no thats optional

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i implemented it because why not

torn bramble
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i kinda need that cuz i dont wanna sell immediatly every time

torn bramble
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tryna figure out a different lock mechanism but then i would need to somehow disable and enable the aligners with logic and without the aligners teleporting planks while direction is being changed

reef valve
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Becuase to lock your wood you’re most likely just going to want to have a plank in there

torn bramble
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still ended up using elevators

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to get the items in and out

reef valve
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Also my planking system needs to be slower because of plank rotation messing with my car infinite stack

torn bramble
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the plankers still output even if filled with a chematic

reef valve
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ik that but you said any item and i thought maybe something changed since you said any item, but yeah only entities block output

turbid pewter
# fading spear

Update:
Tested this collider cage for planked items that Slappi showed me and I'm actually surprised it works this well, I would have expected them to glitch out through the glass but turns out no. I guess I classify this project as finished now as that was really the last problem I had to solve UNLESS I come across some other issue which I have yet to experience. I will test this out for a couple more runs and if no, I'll record and edit footage 🤑

||@dusty zephyr Can you pin this message (not the one I replied to)||

turbid pewter
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Thank you

dusty zephyr
wraith compass
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Insane

torn pine
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is the wiring actually important? (i get that the collision blocks need wiring but the conveyors dont right?

turbid pewter
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the only wiring in the system is for interactors, colliders and elevators

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there is no wiring for conveyors

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interactors for vehicle spawn pads and colliders for platform

torn pine
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i see

turbid pewter
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Though very unfortunate news this whole system will basically stop working due to the current way it is designed as aligner conveyors are being reworked

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i mean 75% of it will but yeah

torn pine
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oh dang

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sick design regardless

lunar spear
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Tupi possible if i make this but a smaller version? Prob 2 trailer or 3, and 2 sander in each spot?

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The old version not the new

turbid pewter
# turbid pewter Update: Tested this collider cage for planked items that Slappi showed me and I'...

Very unfortunate news:
This whole system will basically stop working as dev(s) are going to fix "sander stacking" and rework aligners. I will hold off on making the tutorial as I don't want it to be obsolete after an unknown time of uploading the video as I really don't know how far away the update is. Sucks yeah, sorry for promising a tutorial and not delivering but didn't really expect this to happen.

Sander stacking being multiple sanders in one spot processing trees faster
Aligner rework will make the resize length of them shorter, add a buffer to items so you can't chain aligners and have them teleport instantly and also stop item stacking in vehicle/trailer to stop working as it wont output items if there already is an item at the end of the conveyor.

For more info read the following conversation that started from this message #1210082522332139540 message

||Could you pin this message @limpid forum (the msg I pinged you in not the one I replied to)||

pure plankBOT
# turbid pewter Very unfortunate news: This whole system will basically stop working as dev(s) a...
@slappi

TLDR, lock some of the better conveyors/logic parts behind higher price levels / places that are locked behind goalposts so that the player isn’t
A. overwhelmed by all the options for farms
B. Stuck at a point where normal conveyors aren’t useful in practice over alignment conveyors (by making the latter MUCH more expensive is my fix)
C. The other extreme, underwhelmed by options (by making the game too linear, it gets boring) so keeping some options open while not having the entire logic store being able to be purchased with a measly ~15k. (INCREASE LOGIC STORE PRICES BY A LOT)

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turbid pewter
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Thank you

torn pine
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rip, old system is still good though

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and sander stacking being removed probably isnt a huge deal anyway

turbid pewter
pure plankBOT
# turbid pewter It is for me, see my argument here https://discord.com/channels/8657376277127495...
@tupisupi

This one I don't get, combining sanders isn't even that overpowered of a thing, it just saves a couple seconds of time (well more since items have that floating thing issue and you have to manually interact with them so they fall down) which you pay 3x or 5x the normal price. If you are patching this I'm gonna throw out the idea of adding a better more expensive sander that sands the same amount of volume but instantly because why not 🤷 As like I stated previously It really isn't that OP considering you are paying 3x or 5x to scrape off 2 seconds of processing time.

I'm actually gonna do some math to show you how much extra I'm paying to scrape off 2 seconds of processing time:
My current system has 57 sanders
57 sanders / 3 (the amount I have in one spot) = 19 sanders
57-19 = 38 sanders
38 sanders x 14200 (sander price) = 539 600$

I'm paying half a million to scrape off 2 seconds of processing time, I know that it only takes about an hour to get that much with the current pricing but still, an hour of work to permanently scrape off 2 seconds isn't really that bad and you can nerf it further during progression/balancing update.

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torn pine
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oh true actually

wise rune
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what is the point of making alignment conveyors worse

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it doesnt improve gameplay... it just causes me to wait 30 minutes to sand things

scenic swallow
scenic swallow
turbid pewter
turbid pewter
torn pine
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Aligner item stacking? like the system that gets the wood to your trailer?

wise rune
scenic swallow
wise rune
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???

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im talking about laggy slow conveyors/unloaders

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what are you talking about

scenic swallow
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Crap wrong thread

wise rune
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LOL

scenic swallow
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I just noticed

torn pine
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Wait, so your newest version would still work just slower? @turbid pewter

turbid pewter
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not how its currently designed

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id have to change some aspects

torn pine
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i assume only the part where you unload the logs has to be changed?

fading spear
crisp rune
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@turbid pewter how'd you make the planker distribute fast?

turbid pewter
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note that this wont work in the next update as they will nerf them heavily

turbid pewter
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though I already have some ideas on how to bypass this based off their description on how itll work 🤫

turbid pewter
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they cant stop me mischievous

crisp rune
turbid pewter
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the factory must process 5 trailers worth of resources in under a minute otherwise it isnt up to my standards bleh

turbid pewter
crisp rune
turbid pewter
crisp rune
turbid pewter
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looks cool

crisp rune
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the alignments are off, i'll press the button to turn it on after every wood are sanded

turbid pewter
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can u send a video of it working?

crisp rune
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but it's not working because of the bugPepelaugh

turbid pewter
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floating items bug?

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or?

crisp rune
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no the alignment conveyor bug

turbid pewter
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oh i remember u talking something about that, i already forgot skulleat

crisp rune
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the one when it's off and there's an item on it while it's off, the items won't teleport when you turn it on

turbid pewter
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yeah

crisp rune
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i hope it gets fixed soon, then i'll show how it works

last peak
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@turbid pewter can you show video how you build it?

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in small version

turbid pewter
last peak
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Thx

last peak
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How lock signal in colider

torn pine
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@turbid pewter do you still think its worth building the newest unloader despite the upcoming changes?

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i mean, if its gonna be a little slower ill probably still build it

torn bramble
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i made it like 2 days ago

turbid pewter
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I also have no idea how long till update, it could be a week or 2 months from now 🤷

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If its a month or two from now go ahead if u can figure it out without tutorial but otherwise dont really recommend building a 5 trailer one, 3 trailers max.

torn pine
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5 trailer is craazy lol, thanks

fading spear
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how???

fading spear
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@turbid pewter how do you farm magma?? i got a 6.7k/min run that took 20 mins, how do you even get close to 10k?

turbid pewter
fading spear
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kk

turbid pewter
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you can just look at that

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or if u want u can wait

fading spear
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lemme chec

fading spear
turbid pewter
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WE LOVE YOUTUBE

fading spear
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why do we love youtube

turbid pewter
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cuz youtube makes everything darker

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i mean dont get me wrong magma cave is already pretty dark but yotube makes stuff darker which is ehh

last peak
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@turbid pewter if im not place 3 sanders in 1 spot,what will?

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only 1

turbid pewter
# last peak only 1

you need to have another structure on top like i currently have with colliders and set a delay for that

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Otherwise they would get teleported without processing

last peak
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ok thx

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where need place coliders here?

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im sorry for a lot questions

turbid pewter
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so you are good

reef valve
turbid pewter
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use nightvision

fading spear
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oh yea

turbid pewter
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and lighting to low like hdmi said

fading spear
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that actually would solve like all my problems im geeking

turbid pewter
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I have like 50 credits iirc, i can buy and sell you one for 600k 🤑

fading spear
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i forgot nv exists imma be fr

fading spear
turbid pewter
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💀

fading spear
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unless you want a rare car for an nv + 400k

reef valve
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So the real solution is low light tbh

torn pine
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how do you guys prevent items from freezing? everytime i get in my car to use the unloader it doesnt work because the items wont fall into the conveyors

turbid pewter
torn pine
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i see is this why the sander trick is important? so unsanded wood cant get into the plankers?

turbid pewter
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though if that "bug" gets patched then it should be easier to manage

fading spear
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like EVER

last peak
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@turbid pewter im subscribe to you in youtube

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turbid pewter
turbid pewter
last peak
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all work im fix all

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thx for instruction

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i can show how work my setup

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if need

turbid pewter
last peak
turbid pewter
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Yeaaah!! That looks nice 🔥

crisp rune
# last peak

try making the planks vertical, maybe that'll stop it from passing through the trailer

last peak
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why colider have effect 1-3 seconds

turbid pewter
last peak
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thanks

torn bramble
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The way i made my design of the factory i need only one layer of glass

west quiver
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tupi what are the required logic components ?

turbid pewter
west quiver
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but first i'll have to clean my base 😭

torn bramble
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this is what my version looks like

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never had any glithcing problems or wood not gettin processed

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glass cage very tightly holds the truck

west quiver
torn bramble
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its also placed right on the fenders

west quiver
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yeah obviously

torn bramble
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i also have kinda my own version of the lock mechanism
small wood pieces and glass circles to stop glithcing out when the elevators are up

crisp rune
torn bramble
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also made the truck and 3 trailer respawn, planker lock, player respawn, truck cage collision commands seprate so i can take my time and have the least chance of unanchoring the wood from my truck by accident

turbid pewter
# crisp rune <@421977583933063169> what do you think?

Looks good, fast processing time, fits your needs and simple from the looks of it though I personally dislike the way you have done the unloader part as that limits you to two trailers and you'd get faster processing time if you'd drive on to it from the side (see image).

BUT note that I am really picky on these sorts of stuff, I am the person who would pay 1 million or more just to cut off 2 seconds of processing time. Basically what I am saying is that it is good but it can be better thumbsup

crisp rune
turbid pewter
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Does this mean you only farm plek?

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I mean you can farm other stuff but with less trailers but still

crisp rune
torn bramble
knotty parrot
crisp rune
torn bramble
crisp rune
torn bramble
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it aint that hard to get in, just near impossible to leave when all filled with plek

crisp rune
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i don't wanna risk pissing myself becuase of mt trailers getting stuck all the time or falling off to the river

knotty parrot
arctic sapphire
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Guys what is this conveyor

fair wedge
arctic sapphire
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Thx

arctic sapphire
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How to respawn a car and tailer that its both hitch

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@fair wedge u know how?

torn bramble
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bro jus move the spawners into eachother a bit

arctic sapphire
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oh

torn bramble
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my question is why do all the plankers not empty out when i unblock them

torn pine
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Man, how do you guys prevent the items from ''anchoring'' when unloading?

turbid pewter
# torn pine Man, how do you guys prevent the items from ''anchoring'' when unloading?

Idk if it was you or someone else that asked me this question a couple days ago but Im still gonna answer:

Its annoying its weird, I made a bug report on this, sometimes its based off of player range and sometimes you have to go there and interact with them, what I found to work is not letting resources stop on a solid structure so for example if you drive your car into the unloader, respawn them and toggle the collider layer if you have one at the same time.

If you want you can "bump"/comment that you have the same problem on github.

turbid pewter
west quiver
turbid pewter
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yea

west quiver
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is it cuz there's too much planks or it is too fast

turbid pewter
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cage thingy still needs some rework as it broke when testing the limits but i wont try to fix that as ill have to remake the whole factory regardless

west quiver
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you're gonna remake it ?

turbid pewter
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yeah after they push out the alignment conveyor nerf

west quiver
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yeah ok

turbid pewter
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factory revision 8

west quiver
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thought so

turbid pewter
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🤑

west quiver
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yes, i think imma stick to the version 6 for a bit

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cuz they're nerfing the allignment conveyors so i'll try to figure my own factory or do the version 8 when you'll have it done

torn pine
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Woah, what logic did you use to only let the wood through when you were in the truck?

turbid pewter
torn pine
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actually nevermind i get it

west quiver
turbid pewter
torn pine
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it was about the elevators pushing the wood into the conveyors

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cause i didnt think elevators would work

turbid pewter
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#1186005243864043612 message

pure plankBOT
# turbid pewter https://discord.com/channels/865737627712749579/1186005243864043612/121355768468...
@tupisupi

Update: I implemented a "lock" for the plankers (Huge thanks to @fading spear for the concept), now you can fill them up as much as you want without needing to immediately sell them which also means I can make the system SLIGHTLY more compact.

I do have this issue of it sometimes working and sometimes not which is really really annoying to figure out why, I don't know whether my factory is literally too fast so it moves 2 or more planks into the same spot which causes them to glitch out before they actually weld or its just aligner inconsistency. I'm having trouble getting past this step as no one wants an unreliable factory.

I did try to use colliders to keep the vehicle trapped (Thanks to @reef valve) it somehow helped but it is still an issue.

It also might be due to the fact that items retain velocity despite being teleported by aligner conveyors.

Video is sped up 2x in the loading part.

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torn pine
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Oh i get it, so the elevators just block the plankers?

turbid pewter
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yeah

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they dont actually block it by obstructing anything they just take advantage of the anti blockage feature

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basically if a loose item is near the output of machinery it doesnt output

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the elevators have an item on top of them which can be moved via the elevators

vale apex
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wait does that mean the wood gets locked in the planker until the elevators extend the wood piece on top and everything can then pass through?

turbid pewter
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Queue system can be toggled on/off by taking advantage of the anti clog system.

vale apex
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okay that's good to know, I didn't know what the elevators were for at first but now I do

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I have an issue though where sanded logs go through the machine and don't get planked, is that because I haven't set up the lock system?

turbid pewter
vale apex
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idk if you can see well in this but do the alignment conveyors look right?

turbid pewter
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thats not needed

vale apex
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i have a row of them in every planker

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but i dont need them at all?

turbid pewter
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nope, not needed

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Are these ones facing down or up?

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alignment conveyors

vale apex
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facing down

turbid pewter
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alr, id personally move them a 2-4 studs higher, somewhere in this area THOUGH if it works you dont need to do that, u should be good

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thats just my personal preference

vale apex
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thats around where my elevators are, should i move those up if i move the conveyors?

turbid pewter
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but if it works it works, dont fix it if it aint broke

turbid pewter
vale apex
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yeah

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ill remove the alignment conveyors i dont need and see how it works

turbid pewter
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yuh

vale apex
turbid pewter
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thats what i personally would try out first

vale apex
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okay

vale apex
turbid pewter
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yeah

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try it out first before doing it for every single one

vale apex
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yeah i will also

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how should these conveyors be, currently the one at the top is upside down

turbid pewter
vale apex
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okay cool

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should i move the sanders so they are more over top the conveyors or is this okay?

turbid pewter
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ehh hard to say just based off that image

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if it works consistently i wouldnt change stuff

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i have some images in pinned messages of measurements

vale apex
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okay

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also should my sanders be right next to eachother? or is this okay

turbid pewter
vale apex
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do you often get logs stuck on the conveyors?

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like unsanded logs

turbid pewter
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ehh nope

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almost never due to how i designed my system

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i mean no

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nvm cuz i scrapped that

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REALLY REALLY RARELY

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I've done like 30 runs so I can't say so with a guarantee

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hasn't happened yet after i fixed it

vale apex
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are you able to easily explain what the issue was?

turbid pewter
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maybe tomorrow

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gonna head to sleep, sorry

vale apex
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thats alright, ill do more testing but it seems okay for now

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thanks for the help though, have a good night

true mauve
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what

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how does it teleport

vale apex
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alignment conveyors

true mauve
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how do these factories teleport stuff

crisp rune
reef valve
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this is optimal imo

true mauve
crisp rune
true mauve
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how does the hitbox work

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it touched 1 piece of kelp and immediately teleported all the kelp off the truck

true mauve
true mauve
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is this a good design what should i change

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theres another sander blocked by the cobblestone on the top most rightmost conveyors

north bobcat
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Y’all yk this won’t work

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New update will make this be destroyed d

reef valve
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everyone knows

torn pine
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i made it regardless

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very worth it

torn bramble
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agree

royal saddle
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I have made your design but without 3 sanders being in the same spot, and it works like a charm, from what I could test, I sanded and planked 2 full trailers in about 5 seconds

royal saddle
true mauve
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how does it fall through the glass

turbid pewter
true mauve
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theres nothing that opens

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am i missing something?

turbid pewter
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they can open it

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or will

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they just didnt do so in that video

true mauve
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how do they toggle the teleport

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into the plankers

turbid pewter
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their system doesnt appear to have any "toggle" feature

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on/off for plankers

royal saddle
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I didnt exactly copy their design, I took some inspiration

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So it might not be the same

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But it still works really fast

royal saddle
whole citrus
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I understand that you used the teleport conveyor and chat command to disable the collision, but the wood refinement part left me confused

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I'm used to doing logic with lumber tycoon, here it's very different (in a good way)

whole citrus
true mauve
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ojhhhhh

whole citrus
royal saddle
turbid pewter
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See pinned msgs

royal saddle
true mauve
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how do you make switch respawn cars

turbid pewter
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interactor

true mauve
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thanks

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i found one of those secret based

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bases

turbid pewter
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Haha

whole citrus
turbid pewter
whole citrus
torn bramble
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ok so the nerf happened

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dont have time rn to make a new factory

royal saddle
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or like the factory is still good

torn pine
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prices changed a lot right

royal saddle
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lemme test it out

torn pine
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in...a bad way

torn bramble
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can only output 1 item in total out of hundreds xd

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im takin it appart

royal saddle
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the alignment conveyors broke entirely for me

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that's sad

torn bramble
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are the new pick and axe the best

royal saddle
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not sure

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the factory worked so well

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and they had to nerf it

royal saddle
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and it goes to the side somehow

torn bramble
royal saddle
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this factory didnt even last 2 days for me

torn bramble
torn pine
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select it and de select it

true mauve
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factories are impossible to make for nopw

torn pine
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cause of prices?

royal saddle
torn pine
royal saddle
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Ill see if that fixes it

torn bramble
torn pine
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when joining new servers alignment conveyors can just... not work

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it happens a lot

royal saddle
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are you sure it's not because of the nerfs

turbid pewter
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alignment conveyor nerf got pushed out

royal saddle
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yeah

true mauve
royal saddle
torn bramble
royal saddle
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IM RICH

true mauve
royal saddle
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I have like 30 sanders on my factory

torn bramble
royal saddle
torn bramble
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xd

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first time losing wheels permanently

turbid pewter
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Factory revision 7 is now obsolete, time to create revision 8 🤑

fleet ivy
royal saddle
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now it will be the 5 million factory

fleet ivy
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God daaaamn

royal saddle
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🔥

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atleast I have my broken factory that has like 30 sanders

fleet ivy
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I have....

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Two sanders Clueless

royal saddle
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you will get there

fleet ivy
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Somday when Factory revision 9999 is out xDD

whole citrus
turbid pewter
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then you just hook that up to a relay or memory cell with a button/switch

torn pine
vale apex
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wait why is it obsolete?

turbid pewter
vale apex
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oh okay good to know

torn pine
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dang i just joined a private server but it hasnt updated? lol

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oh nevermind it has its just a second shutdown

turbid pewter
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#1218295055069089863

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new post 🤑

torn pine
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rip factory 7

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this was how i did it before the conveyor rework came through

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@turbid pewter spruce trees indicate that im in an updated server right?

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cause i still have a countdown, but theres spruce trees in my server

torn pine
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odd....

sharp vector
torn bramble
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alr time to unflollow this channel since outdated again and follow rev 8

primal flame
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is the new unloader broken ?

turbid pewter
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#1218295055069089863

west quiver
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e

primal flame
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e

west quiver
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e

upper hollow
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a