Ping me

[bold wind]

ping me i want to feel famous

https://tenor.com/view/north-korea-kim-un-clapping-gif-7290418

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19492032

i want these vibes

[reef vapor]

@bold wind OMG are you the real i_top_1 of occ???

[small vector]

hah

didn't think of that one did you?

[bold wind]

the white blue fits me well!

[small vector]

it does

[bold wind]

Even the T it's like the T in top

send me your pass

[small vector]

joke done, screenshot grabbed

[bold wind]

i just made the screenshot to make you change your name

[small vector]

@i_top_2 be ready

[bold wind]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[crystal wharf]

🫥

@bold wind

[white rose]

he got banned

[white rose]

@bold wind

ur back

[bold wind]

They can't ban me, I'm very important here due to my super powers of makeing tea with one hand.
But I leave the server sometimes.

[white rose]

can u like my suggestion in #1153935922065313803

[bold wind]

Sure with my second hand while makeing tea 😎🫳

[white rose]

thanks! i replied

[knotty valley]

/poll kick @bold wind

[white rose]

@bold wind

[white rose]

@bold wind

@bold wind add me to the map!!!!

[bold wind]

d1

[knotty valley]

@bold wind hi

[bold wind]

You should say hi king 👑

[knotty valley]

@bold wind hi

[crystal wharf]

@bold wind PING

[knotty valley]

@bold wind what do you think of pizza with pineapple ?

[bold wind]

A legalized crime

[knotty valley]

@bold wind coffe or tea ?

[bold wind]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-24639141

[knotty valley]

@bold wind What is the best sport, and why ?

[bold wind]

Idk I'm not a sport guy

[knotty valley]

@bold wind what day is it ?

[bold wind]

today

[knotty valley]

@bold wind what is the difference between a chicken ? 🐔

[bold wind]

yes

[knotty valley]

@bold wind for 1K dollars, would you stop playing mc forever ?

[white rose]

nope

[bold wind]

No, I just want the nostalgic feeling when I come back to it.
It's worth more than 1000$ 😭

[knotty valley]

What about 5k ?

[bold wind]

No I need to come when I'm 80

I would Leave occ for that though

[knotty valley]

50k ?

[bold wind]

Done.

Duck the feelings!

[knotty valley]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-i-knew-it-chandler-gif-15801472

[knotty valley]

@bold wind are you sleeping ?

[bold wind]

Not yet

R u?

[white rose]

@bold wind bad def

only 2 hours

[bold wind]

We won what do you mean by bad def

bad sleep who sleeps for two hours

[knotty valley]

@bold wind What is your favorite moovie ?

[bold wind]

Wolf of wall street

[knotty valley]

@bold wind what do you think of this ?

https://youtu.be/VG4Cp71lses

[bold wind]

skills!

post it on Content-Creation it will get views

do you mind if i did ?

[knotty valley]

It’s like a « private » video, only people with the link can see it

@bold wind

[bold wind]

I download it and post it I mean.

[bold wind]

Leave what I think, what do you think?

[knotty valley]

Yes perfect

[knotty valley]

I did not understand

[bold wind]

Of my epic attack

[bold wind]

@small vector

Watch me using 10% of my brain

[small vector]

that's a red team issue

[knotty valley]

@bold wind Hi

[white garden]

@bold wind can i get ur autograph??

[white garden]

thank u!!

[bold wind]

np anything for my fans 😍

[knotty valley]

@bold wind what is your dream ?

[knotty valley]

@bold wind don’t forget to answer

[reef vapor]

@bold wind hi t_top_1

[bold wind]

I did but I deleted it

[bold wind]

Hello 😍

[knotty valley]

@bold wind If you have one, which is the country you really want to visit ?

[bold wind]

French so I can kick you 😍😍😍

[knotty valley]

@bold wind I like this discussion, you like it too ? Tell me the truth

[bold wind]

Yes, I literally made this forum for this 🗣️

[knotty valley]

@bold wind can you tell us a secret ?

[bold wind]

When in was 16-17 I bought bitcoin so I can open a online visa overseas because I was under the age of getting bank account here, it costed me around 10$ back than when the price was 200$ for one bitcoin.
Before I even knew what a bitcoin is.
Now it should worth at least 3000$ and I had all the time to invest back than but no, visa! So I can get a Paypal! So I can order online!

I will del this later

[white rose]

YOPU BOUGHT A BITCONIN FOR $200??????????????

[bold wind]

I bought 5% of a bitcoin for 10$

I remember even using YouTube to buy it, I talked to a guy from Morocco in YouTube comments and we made the deal 🤡.

[knotty valley]

@bold wind where are you from ?

[bold wind]

U know.

[knotty valley]

No

[bold wind]

I swear to god you know

[knotty valley]

I am not sure

[bold wind]

It is.

[reef vapor]

@bold wind where are you from ?

[bold wind]

Flamiix knows

[reef vapor]

@knotty valley where does @bold wind live?

[knotty valley]

@bold wind are you from …. Germany ?

[bold wind]

No, I from 🗣️🗣️ , (I will del this)

[reef vapor]

@bold wind I've never been to 🗣️🗣️

@bold wind is it good?

[bold wind]

🗣️🗣️

Not as good as luton

[knotty valley]

Gj I saw that

[white rose]

@knotty valley

@knotty valley

please

are u on

i need u

[reef vapor]

@bold wind are the rumors true?

[knotty valley]

Nop sorry, what do you need ?

[white rose]

is blocking the woolrooms with pistons on oasis allowed

[knotty valley]

I would say yes, since it’s possible to place blocks in the woolroom and even to leave it from the top, it’s not that strong

@bold wind if you have to choose someone between Oprad and Pierrotwinner, who will you choose ? You have to make a choice

[karmic ember]

sup @old ravine

[old ravine]

@karmic ember

@supple summit

@hushed ingot

[hushed ingot]

@old ravine @bitter marlin

[bitter marlin]

@hushed ingot

[supple summit]

@old ravine

[old ravine]

@supple summit

[supple summit]

@old ravine

[bold wind]

Choose to what, choose to love or lose? 🤔

[knotty valley]

Just answer

[bold wind]

Pierrotwinner

He has winner in his name so he won my choice

[white rose]

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[knotty valley]

@bold wind are you a pacifist guy ?

[bold wind]

No, I will fight any one who attacks my wools even if it costs me my life (because I can respawn)

[knotty valley]

@bold wind should we kick Shimane or Shimane ?

[bold wind]

Both

[knotty valley]

@bold wind do you have brothers/sisters ?

[reef vapor]

I am @bold wind cousin

[knotty valley]

@reef vapor I KNEW IT

[bold wind]

15 💀

[bold wind]

Hi cousin 😍

[reef vapor]

@bold wind how old are you?

[bold wind]

3

What is your

Cousin 😂

[reef vapor]

wHAT???

[bold wind]

My name starts with t and t is in the number 3 in the latters list

[reef vapor]

@bold wind you are 3 years old??

[bold wind]

Give me milk!!!! Or I will cry 😭😭😭😭😭

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[bold wind]

Mamamamamammamamama

[knotty valley]

Tell us the truth, do you have a favorite one ?

[bold wind]

I hate them equally

I will never favour one over the other🥰

[reef vapor]

@bold wind im i your favourite cousin?

[bold wind]

No the other cousin is better

You are the annoying cousin that we only see in family gatherings

[white rose]

u better delete this before someoen reports u lol

[bold wind]

he said what is your favorite number than when i said 3 edit his question to age

I swear i'm not 3 years old

[reef vapor]

yeah right!

we have a tos breaker over here

someone call the discord police

[knotty valley]

@bold wind what is your favorite color ?

[knotty valley]

@bold wind what do you think of sedum_paul ? In occ words only

[bold wind]

He is a nice dude 😍

[quiet spoke]

@bold wind which country is the best country

[bold wind]

Russian and Israeli because they will start the WW3 event which is better than funky Friday 😍

Even friendly fire is allowed 😍😍😍😍

And we will play with 0ms!!!

[carmine ridge]

💀

[knotty valley]

@bold wind smh

[white rose]

@bold wind im kinda lazy icl thas why it takes me so long to do the xml btw

[bold wind]

it's totally okay man

take your time, evne if it took you months

[white rose]

the map been created in august 2023 anyway soo a few more months wont hurt loll

[white rose]

I GOT A SCREENIE WITH I_TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[junior bluff]

@bold wind

[knotty valley]

@bold wind how are you ?

[bold wind]

Not happy

Bad

Low

Have you ever heard that song that says low low low low low it's running in my head now because I'm low

Like low mode but I'm top

[knotty valley]

Mmmh no

[bold wind]

It eid day which is holly day which means I worked my ass for family and guests while I'm introvert

You have to give them coffee with this shit thermos it's made of iron!!!! And it's shameful culturaly to server in plastic one!!!

Who the fuck made the rules!!!

Dead people impact us until today!!!

[knotty valley]

Good luck with that ! (Can I have a coffee pls ? )

[bold wind]

No!!!!!!

[cedar parcel]

yes a long time ago

it says low low low in different pitches?

[bold wind]

It sounds like: low la low low low low in fast way

[white rose]

@bold wind

[astral pendant]

@i_top_1 @i_rat_1

@i_top_1

[white rose]

@bold wind is xml of the map we've built being worked on

[bold wind]

ask @small vector

[white rose]

I KILLED ITOP

[white rose]

i_windows_12

[small vector]

No map file, no xml.

Simple

[white rose]

@small vector ur added as an author to the map btw so u can download urself

[small vector]

Ok

[white rose]

@bold wind we forgot to make observers spawn

in the map

[bold wind]

I think 2 min spawn high in the middle will do the work

[white rose]

I MADE THIS

[small vector]

aight

[bold wind]

Why am I a rock 😂🪨

Good job 👏🏻

[small vector]

Now that that is done, I can come in & decorate it 😉

(I hope)

[white rose]

we needa fix that

also the nether warts r keep disappearing so make sure to replace them before u download

@small vector

[bold wind]

I do have a bad feeling about (decorate it 😉)

[small vector]

Why are there nether warts?

[white rose]

CUS

there is water n lilly pads on the other side

so i thought we can put nether warts instead of lilly pads on the lava team

[bold wind]

epic thinking, i was thinking the same

[white rose]

i centered everything its good now

[small vector]

I also still don't understand how you want me to code this (code wise)

[white rose]

what exactly do u not understand? if ydk how to make rounds u can look at the grand tournaments xmls https://gist.github.com/CrazyisCreeps/19d51f6b3975fa24b221ef5be5e5fc34

[white rose]

determining in which region theres the most players can be tricky icl

[small vector]

I mean what to the KoTH's have to do with the scissor paper rock?

are they even needed?

[white rose]

they're used to determine when a round starts and ends so u can make the entire map a hill with show atrribute set to false and capture-time attribute to the round time, also make the entire red side a portal, as well as the blue side and set those 2 portals filter attribute to a <captured> filter to teleport the players back to spawn when the round ends (when the hill is captured)

[small vector]

I mwan how does the hill determine which hill is capped

as far as I know all 3 hills would be capped at the same time

however if the whole map is one entire hill like you said then there's no need for hills built on the map

theoretically it could even be as simple as holding an item in your hand

[white rose]

hmmm

actually the hills arent needed for this, they're needed in the tournaments cus in those u cant know when a team finishes fighting but in rps there'd be a specific round time i think

u can just use the time filter for rps

[white rose]

im thinking how to determine what have the players picked u could maybe make a hill for each choice and then to capture-filter attribute pass a filter that makes sure any of the other choices isnt captured and that theres more than half of the team standing in this choice's region

im not sure how could u know how many players there is currently playing, i wish pgm had placeholders for some values like players count so u could do for example <players min="1" max="%playersCount" />

[small vector]

why not just use an action to count how many players from a team are holding a specific item

then just fo a bunch of if comparisons to determint the "chosen one"

[white rose]

i thought abt this too but if u have 3 variables counting how many players r holding the item then how'd u compare them to determine which has the highest number, ion think there are math filters or smth in pgm to check whether a variable is greater than the other one

i also wish u could use variables like constants so u could do smth like this <variable var="rock_count">[${the_variable_name},oo)</variable>

[small vector]

I'm quite sure there are

but I don't fully know

[white rose]

u can check whether a variable's value is greater or lower than some hardcoded number but u cant compare it with a different variable i think

[small vector]

damn really

that's limiting

[white rose]

a photo taken just before tragedy:

[white rose]

@bold wind

im making a cool map

@small vector i can share it with u too

[small vector]

Is it the no defence wool map I suggested?

Or even cooler?

[white rose]

Yes

Its infection BUT its like base builder from Cs

U get some time to build a base and then the zombies must get into ur base to infect u

And theres a shop

In which u can buy weapons

And stuff like soul sand

Or cobwebs

[bold wind]

Leg me see

[white rose]

I ADDED U

AS AUTHOR

[white rose]

@small vector

[small vector]

Yessir, that’ll check if 2 variables have the same value

[white rose]

if u subtract the amount of people who picked paper from the amount of people who picked rock and the result is greater than 0 then more people picked rock

and u can do the same with scissors

[small vector]

ah yeah that's a way to do it

[white rose]

@small vector @bold wind ima try to make the xml cus i have alot of free time now

[bold wind]

Gl 💕

[bold wind]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-nice-well-done-approve-good-job-gif-15192259

[bold wind]

Do you think you can add some effects to the picked choices?

[white rose]

@bold wind are u sleeping

@bold wind we can make tic tac toe too

its gonna be a bit harder than rps tho

[bold wind]

First thinga first

We need to submit the current map than later on we will work on other maps 💪

[white rose]

@bold wind

whats ur timezone

[bold wind]

my time zone is fixed, but my sleeping time is changing over days

[white rose]

okay

[bold wind]

UTC +3 AST Arabia Standard Time

[white rose]

don't sleep so we can test the map

[bold wind]

is it ready?

[bold wind]

my game just crashed, i'm back

[bold wind]

the font is big

[white rose]

we cant change it

u have to set gui size in settings to normal

[bold wind]

write less than that than

[white rose]

@bold wind i found a bug

when u move onto the clay from paper and stay on it without going on rock and then go back into paper it increases paper count

@proper raptor maybe thats why it was bugging

and when u go onto spawn

and back into paper

it increases too

[bold wind]

you can replace it with any red block

[white rose]

okay

now it should count correctly

[white rose]

i added it to chat

for some reason the #'s bugged

i havent changed anything

[faint oxide]

ur using a different font than in the last screenshot

[white rose]

@bold wind get on

its funky

[bold wind]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-wake-wake-up-sleepy-tired-gif-11716901644926888748

[white rose]

@golden ravine

[golden ravine]

hi

[white rose]

bro this is impossible to win against this ai

it applies effects for the next round if u win

[bold wind]

The odds are limited

[white rose]

@bold wind

grendy told me to add losing animations like tnt rain or the platform disappearing

we need more ideas

[bold wind]

.

[white rose]

I DID

there are particles

[bold wind]

This might crash the game of some players or drop their fps

[white rose]

okay

we resigned from this

cus its not easy to xml and it'd be confusing for the players

[bold wind]

Are you able to use command blocks?

Pls say yes

[white rose]

no

[bold wind]

Nooooo

It's just a map why not?

The code of these commands are written do you think you can copy them into XML?

[white rose]

because pgm devs think their plugin is perfect and it can do anything imaginable ||/j||

[bold wind]

Lame old men

@sage dirge your XML is limited

[white rose]

lol

[bold wind]

Do you think you can reverse command blocks code into XML?

Is it doable

[white rose]

its not

[bold wind]

Is it possible to write from scratch a code like this in XML?

We need only one effect

But epic big one

At the end

[white rose]

xml can't spawn particles

[bold wind]

Or around the choices

[bold wind]

How does the particles works

[white rose]

firework

[sage dirge]

my xml works on servers in 1.8 and in 1.21, cannot say the same for command blocks

[bold wind]

How can we do this?

Pablo

[sage dirge]

spawners

[bold wind]

Does it makes a complicated shapes and we can code it in actions?

For example
If (team won){spawn there and there}

Do you think we can spawn bots and to them it time?

@white rose can you make a spawn that has particles and make it in a spot on a specific time?

[white rose]

spawners have the fire particles but im not gonna make 10000 spawners and align them to make some shape

[bold wind]

This is so limited

And you need to hide the spawner

Can this hold a particles?

[bold wind]

Can you command it or just fire and simple one things?

Because the command blocks code is simple , extremely simple only copy and paste

[white rose]

just fire and simple one things

[bold wind]

You can hide it?

Or is it visible

[white rose]

spawners aren't visible

[bold wind]

I'm not sure what is doable tbh,
I trust your judgement

[faint garden]

would something like datapacks work on 1.20 maps? it could be the closest you can get to command blocks without actually having them

obviously it comes with the risk of being able to run any commands

[sage dirge]

i've given it some thought, i'm still unsure
it'd be nice to have extra capabilities, but it sucks that it could be stuff that breaks after an update
datapacks/mc functions are not very backwards compatible

would you want to go and edit/fix all the datapacks for maps using them when we update from 1.21 to 1.21.1? or 1.22?

[faint garden]

not really, but it should be fine if it was limited to niche maps

[white rose]

@bold wind u wanted the wall on the rps map to become glass after a round is finished?

i remember someone saying that

[bold wind]

Yes so the players can see each others from both sides

[white rose]

@faint garden what are u doin

[faint garden]

?

[white rose]

nothing?

sorry i forgot to reply

are u still doing nothing or u started doing something

[white rose]

@bold wind

are u asleep

[white rose]

@sage dirge u remember when u told me to use effect filter in pulse filter to make it dynamic i got a problem with that, it works on localhost for me but it didn't work on Necrozma's server and it also doesn't work for Tommy, idk why is that happening, they used the exact same xml as me

[sage dirge]

Xml skill issue

You running same pgm version? Check /ver pgm

[bold wind]

Si

[white rose]

@proper raptor @small vector what are yous doing

[small vector]

anything but overcast rn

Server's just stuck in a timewarp and playercount is stagnating

[coral brook]

No

[white rose]

@bold wind

should we just submit the map

i think its done

[bold wind]

Sure but what about the players count? It will impact the time of the map

Do you want it to be a funky map or a morning map

[white rose]

FUNKY

but the player count is good i think

minimum 1 and maximum 50

[bold wind]

If the number 50vs50
The map will not be selected because the players count is at total 50 players.
I think we should ask some who knows

@small vector or @sage dirge

Because it seems simple but it really impacts the map a lot

[white rose]

the minimum is 1 so only 1 person online is required for it to be in voting

[bold wind]

try to sponsor a map, it will not shown 90% of the time because of the players count

i know it can take a lot of players, but the thing is if it take a lot it will not take any :-

#1248025618998755480 message

[small vector]

Restrictions on sponsoring maps are fine as is. If you talking about map size don’t worry, admins usually change team sizes for maps

[small vector]

Besides bingo what interesting new thing has been added to the server?

Within the last 6 months

[white rose]

no

its because minimum players required isnt set on most maps

if u set minimum players to 1 on Shroom Galaxy u could sponsor it anytime

[bold wind]

okay, i think it's ready than

https://tenor.com/view/explosions-spontaneous-explosion-dynamites-explosion-test-bomb-test-gif-13806891

drop it

[sage dirge]

That does NOT work like that

[white rose]

How

[sage dirge]

Min is something that existed for like tournaments, it prevents the match starting until that amount of players have joimed
Besides that it does nothing

[white rose]

Then what should we do if the amount of players on this map doesnt matter

[sage dirge]

It always matters

[white rose]

Its rock paper scissor it can be played with 1 player as well as 50 players or smth

[sage dirge]

That plays best at 0 players

[white rose]

It works with 0 players too

[sage dirge]

Idk, i would size it small cause if it even has a chance to be in the rots it should be at times where barely anyone is online

And in funky/events the slots just get resized anyways

[white rose]

Pablo what's ur opinion on bunkers

#1255729153081344113

[sage dirge]

Idk, make a map and test it

It could work

[white rose]

what about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHvADTeJSjA

level pvp

[white rose]

@sage dirge !!!!!!!!!!

It works!!!!!!!

We updated pgm and it works!!!!!!

[sage dirge]

who?

[white rose]

The effect with pulse

[sage dirge]

no, who asked

anyways the real question is why are you even using effects here?

[white rose]

because

is there other way to detect if someone got shot

with an arrow

[sage dirge]

what effect are you even using to detect that?

and yes, there is

[white rose]

i set potion in modifybowprojectile to fire resistance with duration 1

[sage dirge]

i see

[white rose]

i wanted to use <cause>projectile</cause> but it wasnt working

[sage dirge]

wanted to use that where?

[white rose]

as kit filter <kit id="" filter="the cause filter">

[sage dirge]

yeah no that's not how filters work

[white rose]

and then in give i use the pulse

[sage dirge]

i've chosen to make your life easier

[white rose]

thanks 🙏

[sage dirge]

https://github.com/PGMDev/PGM/pull/1345

[white rose]

Pablo

yk it shows ur last name and email on github

u should change ur privacy settings

[sage dirge]

it's been public since forever

this ain't news

good luck finding anything about me even with that info tho

[white rose]

the filters don't work for me, i set it to only trigger the action when the attacker is team-one but it always triggers

when i set the filter to <cause id="got_shot">projectile</cause> then the action never triggers

it seems like it doesnt get the damage context to run the filters on it

[sage dirge]

can u paste the section of xml?

instead of separate screenshots

[white rose]

<actions>
        <action id="clear-keeper-kit" scope="player">
            <replace-item ignore-metadata="true">
                <find material="stone sword" />
                <replace material="air" />
            </replace-item>
        </action>
        <action id="change-kit" filter="aaa" scope="player">
            <message text="u got hit" />
            <kit id="flag-carrier" />
        </action>
    </actions>
    <damage victim-action="change-kit" />

<filters>
    <attacker id="aaa">
        <team>team-one</team>
    </attacker>
</filters>

[sage dirge]

that is... incomplete

please post like everything related to this in that xml

[white rose]

oh

i edited

its like that

i can send u the file if u want but theres alot of other filters and stuff

[sage dirge]

i'd like to have a MRE

minimum reproducible example, ie: a map+xml with the least amount of stuff that still replicates this issue

[white rose]

okai

[white rose]

the clear-keeper-kit action isnt needed actually

[sage dirge]

@white rose fixed it, pushed a fix to the PR

[white rose]

now it works!!!

Pablo i reacted to ur pr

[sage dirge]

aww tysm

[white rose]

https://github.com/PGMDev/PGM/pull/1346

@golden ravine

look

we gonna be able to make the launching thing

[sage dirge]

not only that, but also https://github.com/PGMDev/PGM/pull/1348

which means you can bind this to an item right/left click

[golden ravine]

soup map?

[sage dirge]

soup is possible yes

[white rose]

but it won't get accepted

[sage dirge]

what are you basing this on?

[white rose]

Soup is a hard gamemode, way harder than pot and even more harder than gapple and all maps have gapple healing on occ or at least i havent seen any map with other healing so it'd be hard for occ players who are mostly not very skilled at the game to play soup and therefore the mapdevs wouldnt accept it because they want all maps to be enjoyable for even not skilled players

Thats why the gamemode died probably its just so hard to be good at it

[sage dirge]

there is at least one potpvp map in ocn

ocn gamemodes are generally much harder than plain pvp (ie: duels) due to how much more context/gamesense is needed

like i spectated a new player the other day and he just got nothing done, died like 20 times maybe got 2 kills, and left

and he seemed competent at pvp, just not at knowing where to go

serengeti is a potpvp map

twilight zone is another pvp pot map

funerea is a pot pvp map

[faint oxide]

i sponsored a potpvp map once and it got dev phased 10 minutes later

[sage dirge]

which map was it?

all 3 that i mentioned are currently prod-phased in occ

[faint oxide]

chemical reaction

[sage dirge]

never heard/seen it

[white rose]

They're harder gamesense wise but not pvp wise, its easier to learn gamesense than become skilled at pvp IMO in soup u need to do a lot of things at once like looking at ur hp all the time because it goes down really fast, switching slots to soup, dropping the bowls and refilling while in gapple u just pvp and when you're low u run a bit, eat the gapple and bow or fight again

Also hard in soup is that u get like no break from fighting because its useless to turn around when u eat the soup instsntly unlike in potpvp or gapple

[sage dirge]

furrie, you've yet to provide a reason for why "it would be rejected" other than your own beliefs

it's likely not getting into the main rots but it can probably be loaded and played every so often

[white rose]

Its facts!

Not beliefs

[sage dirge]

it won't be fact until you make a soup pvp map and it gets rejected purely for being a soup pvp map

[white rose]

Okay ill do it then

U can help me design it to make sure its not rejected for bad design

[sage dirge]

no

but if u make it and want feedback i can look at it

[white rose]

Please please 🥺

Dont be like that :(