#🏒┃nhl
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Ok but wanna actually know an interesting fact
No, but here’s one: Minnesota wild are paying 12.7 mil for Parise and Suter to not play 😂😂😂
Unders going out sad
ok
I shoulda checked this before I did under 🤦🏾♂️
YOURE PAYING HIM TOO TO NOT PLAY! but anyways our sweet Swede Jonas Brodin has only allowed Mcdavid to score 4 goals over 9 years. You gotta admit we have a good core.
really? i heard 32 thoughts say they were making it longer by like 2-3 games
Bs
yup legit 1 extra game 💀
We had to, but we ain’t paying him as much as y’all and not as long
?
… The Oilers have a better d core bro
and it pains me to say that
Moot point either way
hate the oilers
"The 1,312-game regular-season schedule – 82 games per team – will conclude Thursday, April 17"
Stop, that's crazy
I believe ya! I just remembered them saying that over the summer
Gone payout the discount pp
gimme a nice 100 game per team BANGGG
when i feel like doing it, lazy asf rn
… They got bouchard :/
nah dude the guys wouldn’t make it
its okay put me in, ill make it happen
I'm taking Faber over Bouchard any day of the week
LMAO HE GOT 5 NATHAN OG UNDERS MAD ASL
ok
im the best RW out there
so like .. the only good dman on y’all’s team? 😂😂
You sorry as’f weak ahhh right wing
😂
I’m Chabot on da ice
Call my bluff
Brodin! And Spurg when he's not hurt 🤣.
You doing too much
say dada
Ima grown man you tripping for even asking me that
Old man Spurgeon
say dada now
Ion play like that I ain’t say nun too be timed
lol
You on a power trip
SAY DADA
Do what you gotta do lil bruh I ain’t calling no man da da you trim
I'll admit that was a bad contract we offered him though. But November 16th get ready to apologize and say the wild are the best in the central division.
I ain’t going out for it
SAY DADA
well u alr said it there
New year new wild
haven’t y’all said that since Zucarello got signed?
No comment.
😂😂😂😂😂
I will admit Wyatt is a dawg
Is Nathan Nathan mackinnon over face offs good ✅✅✅
Love Johnny, but my boy is Stanky.
Be his lawyer instead lol anyone but Benn haha
KAMLOOPS LEGEND STANKOVEN
I kept telling people that Panarin discount was a trap lmao. Should’ve taken Nate’s but I’m not upset i faded them
ok
Is he still the fav to win the Calder this year?
What are you doing here lmao
what are YOU doing here???
NHL app broken a week into the szn is funny af
go back to playing GM on that other server smh
It’s a hambling serving ofc I’m here lmao
bro. panarin bent me over tonight 💀💀💀💀
mbn
Lazard was free af
Should’ve messaged me lol, i knew that was a bad one
latest go
🤦🏾♂️
I messaged Ghosty and he said i was good, f’ing pigeon
😂😂
I took him a ton last year in the playoffs for his 1.5 goblin and he’d consistently get 0 to 1
Yw
LFGGGG
i had mack/palmieri YW bby
Josh giddidy
bro this is why i shouldn’t even touch teams i don’t watch, i always do p good on stars and nucks plays
Yessir!!
lol
Wow cale 🤦♂️
lol
What’s the toss up for these guys
Yeah sadly you can’t do only stars on pp
@clever summit might bring out 2022/2023 bingo and cash everyone out with the list
At least my nfl play got me $20 lol
Gl with sog😹
How much dog McKinnon got
yk im always been the goat no matter what
anyways i need to finish my excel hw
time to untire
see y’all
EZZZZZZ
Pts🌊
i passed my midterms exams, time to party
ez asf rn
I guess I got the last laugh!!!! Lol
ok
Fire
Bingoo😂
heyyyyyyyyyyyyy
wow bingo chalk is here
missed u 2
aves are poopoo
sell the team
mack is washed
Avs panthers and oilers
uhuh
YKP
l o y a l t y
Cez washed might have to han solo my ass
wont last long
this year been sheet
ooh yea
2022 best year
that year was lit
to make money
2021-2022 was peak
back when stat corrections didnt exist
We had goats
cashed everyone out with mny list
godly man
Anyone up
Good
and then i posted a 6 man and it hit
Yup
Solid night
Classic
we'll go down as pp best nhl goats
Otter yeah
nice 0-8
ill prob start posting soon
when i get more free time
Nhl late games ova wit they take 2 months too payout
ill start greening once i find a brain
whats ova
dont answer
I understood
😂
whats wit
Bobby Witt
Just woke up did panarin taco cash?
Yeah the under
Yeah congrats bro
They better up my taco limit tommorow since I’ve been donating this month on PP
Just seen the northern lights 🥰
Ts bussing
Did the discount get rebooted?
Lil 3 piece meal
Funny
Prizepicks don't reboot discounts
YALL LIKE OILERS OR FLYERS TO WIN??
Cash
Pp so whack . Still haven’t paid out Avs game
They always take awhile huh
1st day back nba x nhl
I feel like when I lose it’s fast but when I win it takes forever
Feels like the night time is worse
They gone wait till damn near 1am
YALL LIKE OILERS OR FLYERS TO WIN??
Fr , guess I’m fading e sports tn smh
Night shift always lacking bro
Facts
Yeah that’s insane e
In Mac we trust 🙏
I mean can’t they automate a lot of this tho
You would think man
Like why do they have to manually say you win
Like just connect it to the nhl official score table
And when the game ends mark it as done or sumn idk
Can they pay out Nathan yet man
preciate u mac
Something like that man . I don’t understand any of it but if you can mark a loss that fast they can pay out wins quickly too
YALL LIKE OILERS OR FLYERS TO WIN??
Bro they mark those losses at the speed of light lolol
Glad I didn’t see that first promo
I been on pp two years on god this the longest a payout ever took
Yippee it cashed
always 1
Too Easy 🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹💰💰💰
my bad if u tailed 6 goals and 0 assists is crazy from crosby 😭
jamie benn point
@mortal plaza
Hit 2 6 man's tonight wouda been 4 6 man's if 1 didn't tie prediction, but regardless has been a dam good night
Should I do this?
All edit
Under Connor mcdavid points1.5 insane??
I don't understand
Give us another discount them were fire 🤣🤣💀
DONT PLAY NHL DISCOUNTS OR TACOS, JUST PLAY UNDER OG LINES
Hello
early look for today
Bolts ML
Chat ✅
Nice cash
💀💀💀
Send them
Not sure
Just woke up to this yummy
When do they start spamming the NHL with goblins ?
When do they add time on ice squares??
Thoughts?
need lock for today
They always tend to add TOI in the afternoon, along with Hits
Would just wait a hour or two
Mackinnon got over the OG line too
It’s on the board now
Sent you a guide
Sent you a guide
Any plays?
Anybody got the charts yet or too early
Those NHL tacos were trash
What were they?@plain bloom
why the nhl chat so dead tody
Free
100x tonight
Where are the demons and goblins
Yea
@mortal plaza are u gonna make a lineup for tn
Ye
ok cook sum up
data from 2019 ☠️
3/26/2024
Saves data from when your on 2 different teams doesn’t help. Totally different defense style.
Sog , 2 players neither of them
Covered
Missed badly
Busy cooking a chalked 100x
Where the 🌮
Cooking up them demons
I like svech toi
ill drop my 100x in #🏒┃nhl-ambassador-lineups
Last night 🤵🏿
What’s the taco
thoughts?
Flip time look decent
How yall feel about Bedard demon 3.5 sog? I see he hasn’t been putting that many shots up but last game vs them he got 5
@old sun minnesota wild already got you bored??
Was thinking both connor lol risky but idc
Miro free
Can’t stand the whole board being goblins. When is it gonna go away🙃
Good morning to you too!
Boys what TOI we taking over today
hater 😂
Hurricanes or devils winning tn
Huh?
Me? Never! Although both those picks look good.!
could go either way tbh
What time on ice we taking.
All from 2024 -2023
Idk, that heiskanen play has me like 👀 I’d rather do a toi play for him instead of assists, but then again we’re playing the dumpster fire sharks
Appreciate that, thanks! I’m keeping that then
I’m scared
Time on ice?
@old sun Minnesota Wild fans when contract negotiations start:
17 MILLION FOR 26 YEARS
17x 4man slip 👀
To think I was just about to share a play with you 🙄🙄
Those discounts 😂😂😂
Lmao! Says the one who started it last night 😂
Hockey the only sport where past history don’t mean a thing
Hahaha today's a new day! I'll send a message of the slip I don't need the whole world on it.
Yes it does what 😂
Clearly not
I already have like 6 of em, but go for it
Wow how did I miss this
Oh you think you a big shot huh
Here comes the chalk NHL tacos
connor mcdavid less than 1.5 pts free?
Never
Here we go again Anahi, writing a book..
it’s my 5th message and i keep editing each word
no idea what’s getting flagged
can’t even cuss, can’t say the b word or p word
the b word that rhymes with pet or darlay
so weird
LOL
i dont get it
They just got Anahi, filtered hard
dickwad
You just unlocked a gem, thank you
yeah don’t know what’s flagging
🫡
bro im not even a Ruins fan like Why??
bruins go so crazy
Cuz you love Jamie Benn it's the only thing I can think of
I hate the Bruins, I’m enjoying their downfall.
downfall?????
What do you call their past 2-3 years, a dynasty?? 💀💀
gems
last year was amazing
lol
She woke up with a tude cause her team stinks lol
Wait so is a point a goal or assist?
Believe so
51-26 2021-2022 season
Yes
Remember when you lost a series lead to the checks notes Panthers 😂
65-12 LAST SEASON
lol
bruins have always been elite
we arent going anywhere regardless
we looked like the 16-17 warriors with that record
and it should look like that at all
And then y’all checks notes disrespected your goalie that got you that winning record a couple years back
Might take the wagon again tonight
anahi may i ask what your team is
couldn’t be us, we respect Oettinger, very demure, very cutesy
AND THE CANUCKS
…
Stars 1A and Canucks 1B
mfs lost to the CALGARY FLAMES in the big 2024
Panini changed me
WHAT
B READ IS BANNED
HAHAHAHA
Breadman
yeah you have to use 🥖
I typed it with a space
Ana can't hang
What y’all think about blues and preds ML
Shame
hahahaha and y’all got spanked by the panthers AGAIN
Anybody liking his points under or SOG for today game 🤔
😂😂😂😂
Can’t say anything in the discord
Got this for mentioning swift😂
Backshots sog is fine
Nothing new panthers own the bruins
that’s weird as hell wtf
Yep, I’m now a panthers fan. Hey, enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine ~
Trust me I was permabanned from this discord before lol
MONEY MONTOUR
🤔
reason: minny fan
Demons and goblins?
car shoots the puck
Haha actually it was from the playoffs two years ago. I still have nightmares
dont fall for it
Still goin under
lol
Wait, y’all made the playoffs two years ago?
It was the Vegas and Oilers series lemme see if I still have the SS
vgk had a nasty playoff run
stone had the team in his backpack
I hate them too
remember when the entire league banded together to keep vegas out of the playoffs? 💀💀💀
when the last game ended for vegas, a couple sharks players admitted that several players across the league were texting them to root them on to keep vegas out of the playoffs 💀💀
Wait I deleted it. Basically a company didn't follow their own rules and my friends and I all lost a lot off a save/sog
What y'all think
which company 🌝
I can't believe I deleted the pics. I was on chat support with PP for 24 hours straight
No comment cough cough
Oilers getting their first dub today ??!!!??!!
i hope not
Oh.
Free
I love the way it feels to be a haaaaater, something so sweet about ~ 🎶
I hate coming n da chat all I see is toi wtf
cheer for the Stars!
Nobody putting money on a mf too skate a certain amount of time
@strong plume Prize P is not the same anymore!
Seguin or Jamie benn points against San Jose ???
wtf?
tyler
Jamie Benn stinks
easily
roope>
Real
It used to be shot on goals
his left nut has won more playoff series than your entire franchise
😂
NHL chat sucks now! Thanks Prize!
Lundell vs blue jackets history solid ?
You best watch yourself 🤣
hahaha don’t lie, you laughed
Guys is the taco good?
What exactly has changed about the chat
I chuckled there's a difference
We used to talk shots on goal
stop crying and do some research
this is to chat about NHL broadly
Now we talking about how TOI
People still play SOG every day…
not “hey can u guys rate my slip 1/10” pwetty pwease
Me
Yeah? People hit on that 🤷🏽♀️
Ml?
Toi better than dog
Not the same it's a goblin everywhere
Sog
Goblins have ruined Prize!
you’ll see manee toi been free so far
Sharks gon have like 9 shots today
toi in the playoffs> yall not ready for that convo though
I used to play shots everyday now I don't play because of goblins!
Everyone wants regular lines
Miro point free
🤔
Why you say that
He explained it a few messages below that comment
You make less money on green goblins
Red goblin are really hard to hit
Last year we did sog and hits
Wtw
Gotta just take 1 goblin for your slip or at least mix match your plays with a different sport
@frosty steppe cmon man. When are the goblins going away for nhl. No one wants them
Not true
Why are talking about how much someone skates ?
NHL is about scoring
Were you even here before the goblins bro???
Go back to Roblox
With all the hooks on og lines that happen in nhl, goblins aren’t too bad
Ofc I was?
We doing hits today ?
Goblins/demons are the way tbh
Goblins only r a problem when u r doing $5 slips and ur payout is $7.50
Demons all the way
Okay give me your money and I will play all the goblins
If u r doing $50+ slips and your payout with a goblin is still $50+ profit, it really doesn’t matter
Um I will bring this up. Is this really a consensus opinion?
Like pairing tacos with a goblin for 2x
Indeed u can actually make profit
That’s why you put $250 on goblin slips bud
Not at all
Thanks
No it’s not lol
Yea it is
Goblin are ruining nhl
These r the same people doing 15 leg lays on the books I promise you
Goblins and demons r great
whats the matter? just dont pick a goblin if you dont want
Nhl is responsible for the most hooks, goblins benefits this sport a lot😂
Drop me a goblin bro need a 2x with taco
I used to play 6 pick to get $125 now I only get $35 with green goblins
This…
Bring back regular ngl lines
I’m just talking
Then don’t take goblins 🤯
And bett more than $5
🤯
They are there
It’s there, if it looks to free, they take it off lmao
You have option of goblin reg and demon for most part
Just give us regular lines
Don’t act like u cashed any of those 6 legs ☠️
Yall complaining about a nonexistent issue 😭
Tampa bay is rolling 6 dmen. Do with that info as you please
Yukii are you a Prize employee?
If prizepicks would stop taking off regular lines so much, i dont think he would be complaining tho
It’s not the goblins tho
Complaining about a nonexistent issue is insane
Under toi?
@frosty steppe do you like hot (spicy) food?
At least complain that there r no reboots or something 💀
It’s the fact they’re too scared to put up og lines or they take it off if it’s too popular
Just leave it there
Almost like they r a company that wants to make money
💀
Bro give me your money and I will play all the red goblins
I’m looking at cernak for over toi idk yet about hedman
So dont put it up in the first place then, its that simple
What you ran out of money for ur $5 slips?
💀
Wrong, keep putting the line up
No Idiot
💀💀💀💀💀
I want to play with your money
Bro defending the wrong people ☠️
Then people will complain that the line isn’t up 😂 there’s no winning
nah not really
Must’ve ran out of your own huh
Not wrong, they need to make up their mind
The dog board is 99% goblins
?
Dang it nevermind then haha 🤣
Not defending them just saying yall r complaining about a nonexistent issue 💀
Give us a choice over or under on lines
There is winning, just put up the line and keep it there. Don’t put it up and then wait for people to jump on it to take it down. That’s dumb af😂
Looks risky bro, imma give you sure one if you tryna hit
Just fade if u don’t like the line 💀
A nonexistent issue that wasn’t there b4?
Whining about goblins and demons is childish 💀
Bro you work for Prize
What you got
jeff skinner gets a point tn
Early bird gets the worm
Miro point free
Nobody tryna hear that, just keep it there😂
But not sure
Nah take it off
What do y’all think
So I can be happy I locked it in and others didn’t 🔥
think i like wyatt better
Blackwood saves ??
Kelly’s stats look good
No one's making you play if you don't like it don't do it lol
Good luck explaining that to these simpletons
Accept rq
Ah I gave that up years ago lol
Hahaha ya funny
Why can't we have the NHL without the goblin mess ?
Goblin ain’t bothering anybody 😂
Ur still whining? 😭
Someone must’ve lose their last $5 on some demons last night
💀
& ur still responding to him? U can keep scrolling
If u don’t like what u see
Nah imma keep responding
I like laughing at people crying
Need help on this slip
I scroll only find goblins instead of regular lines
So what’s the issue w him keep saying what he’s saying
Work with what I gave you
Constantly whining and moaning sure does a lot doesn’t it
Maybe if we cry enough something will happen right
All we want is for it to be like every other sport. Give us the OG lines. And then give out the goblins or demons. Dog board is strait up 90% or more goblins with no OG lines.
Yukii go suck on some hot dogs
Yeah that’s crazy
U ain’t hurt anybody lmfao
Real sauce
Yuki defending pp like he work for them😂
Man fr 🤣🤣🤣
For real!
Yall r just brain dead
And it’s jarring to read
Sorry big word
Annoying to read
Bro acting like he ain’t ever cried over chalk 🤣🤣🤣
You won’t get a tip for your services😂
Oh I’ve cried over chalk for sure but crying like this about the lines is wild
💀
What y'all think bout this
Dallas Stars winning today?
????????
Yukii the hot dog muncher!
Easily
They should smack the sharks but u know how it goes w these dawgs
Looks risky, imma give you a sure one if you tryna hit
Keep crying about ur goblins
Ur sure doing a lot
Sharks suck, they should easily
Ur crying over him crying 🤣🤣
Suck and swallow big guy
Honestly don’t care if there’s goblins or demons. Just give us OG lines too like every single other sport on pp
U his daddy?
Gotta keep talking for him huh
& ur riding pp 🤣🤣🤣
Who else you got winning today?
Well you’re talking for a whole organization 😂
Goofball
@waxen pulsar what’s the play
Bro a hypocrite
Vegas gold knights winning today?
They need to add goals allowed within 10mins those been free
Later fellas! except hot dog breath
3 things can be true
- Goblins dont ruin a sport
- When majority of the board is goblins/demons is a problem tho
- Pp need to stop putting up and taking down lines because they’re scared of what will happen
This.
Enjoy ur $5 slips
Lmk when that 2x +$5 hits
We don't do premiums lock in
🤔
🤌✅
Yesterdays discount was so bad
Tragic Johnson
What makes it worse is that was my only loser on my slip lol
Erik has went over that line once in the last ten games vs that team
💰💰🧹🧹🧹 Too Eazy
um
NHL taco after a hitter taco this is so chalked😂😭
^
spencer
Man its over to even announce whats the best taco
I’d rather chalk with mlb than nhl
Goalie save tacos are alot better
Why aren’t yall picking knight tho??
Dont bother asking people it’s already done
Under Logan og lines cash it ✅✅
💀💀
Logan is winning
Knight is definitely the better pick what yall doin
I heard yall are nice with the nhl taco is it true
Do you like it?
i always take unders on og taco lines
he alr at 570
NHL tacos r always pretty good
I’m a life long breadman hater now
They always cash more often then not
Do you all even check the stats when voting?
A discount just chalked last night so take what you want with that info
Knight was so free yall choose the worst options on purpose for
booots are probably voting this next taco
No I click on the most popular option
Fr*
yup. there's a reason that PP picks certain lines for tacos
spencer could’ve cashed easily
is anyone taking that soto taco lmao?
Why are mfs not voting for knight
That might tells me everything I need to know
VOTE FOR KNIGHT
I rather Nikita but that’s just me 🤷🏾♂️
Knight bruh what yall doin
need mfs to switch they votes man
to late bruh lol you know that
a ping or sum 😭😭😭
soto absolutely balled last game but he's been kinda hit or miss this year
Voted Thompson
God I hate these are community picks. Just let us choose ourselves😭😭
Everybody taking Thompson why?
i voted for verhaeghe
yeah ik im v scared to take it ngl
NBA heads voting blindly what's new
dude been complaining about the tacos all day
Voted for the most popular pick
Is it good?
Logan thompson taco is a lock vs vegas
I know who you talking bout 😂💀
Because you’re all brain dead
Exactly…..
he's so good under pressure tho so i would take it
Until vgk scores 3 1st period
hit dog✌🏽
what yall think of this lil slip
Collective iq of 12 for yall
i already know there’s gonna be someone that asks if the taco is chalk when the game hasn’t even started
We gon be good either way but knight is a better option
I did
ur still gonna take it btw
Definitely
Not this one💀
he is .500 against bibee granted only 2 ABs
Chat to chat crying 😂
idc tbh
1 hit 1 walk
LMAO like
soto shells righties.. i would take it
Ur gone
trash ahhh bacos
lmao he mad
😂
It’s not
easy money or nah
Why
He’ll be okay take the day off 🤝🏿
Nikita is way better
i can hear how big his back is
Hell no
Knight was free
Does that make the saves a bad taco to take it it wins?
so who do i choose
Thompson got my vote 🔥
Who know this nhl shxt frfr?
VGK gon score 5 1st period 🔥🔥 bye bye Spencer
is logan thompson valid???
Any good nhl picks today
Me I'm the smartest person here
😂💀
Get me right
Yes until vgk r up by 3 after 10 mins
I liked Carter tbh but none of them are that good
Who we picking
It’s just a worse pick than what’s being offered up. It might hit, but imma prolly avoid it
yk puck
Doesn’t matter Thompson already won
Id prefer carter out of the 4 options
Is he not good?
Can we take knight plz
It won't happen
Best taco?
Watch the 3rd taco be Alvin Kamara
Thompson hitting
Yeah you lost your touch 😂
Don't bother voting it's over
Nikita Kucherov
Nikita
Bet
Best taco?
Excuse me! Also the only reason I don't like Kuch is he's playing Vancouver
Nikita
spencer knight was best taco
Not going knight is crazy
Bet just voted it
Im a big ground beef fan TBH. Barbacoa is also good
Jake good for saves?
Better go look at the history he owns them 😂
Voted Thompson so I can laugh when community chalks
Take it?
Iam with the taco
Nope too late stat book is closed
Ight
???? Lmk
spencer knight has best odds at -420
Nikita passes alot
Donation?
Is Blackwood goalie saves good?
If he doesn't get pulled yeah
My POTD
You funny
this taco coo?
Is Jason getting 1.5 shots
Roman Josi?
What taco?
Who to vote for?
I know who that is too
this thompson dude lmao
Apparently it’s chopped
why did no one vote knight or verhaeghe
I’m back.
Why less on backlund?
We don’t care hahahaha
Because the bucket heads spammed Thompson
Verheaghe is going under 3.5 for sure
Cbj home opener is tonight and Florida is on b2b 🤷♂️
put this in nba terms
pls
Free?
I had this same slip, you tailed Greek?
Nah
Curry playing in Kings arena and the warriors are playing back to back
SPENCER KNIGHT
We don’t care hahahahah
This is wild
I was gonna say heat
My brother in Christ they asked
Heat on b2b and get smacked in Sacramento
so is the taco good or bad can i please get an answer
Bad
Its good
I don’t even know hockey. Just tried my best to make a good comparison ahaha
Chats annoying ah again. See y'all at game time
Lebron debut in la
(I don’t know anything about nhl)
Verheaghe 3.5 sog under and thompson taco 2-man lock
Jordan points chalk ?
This is definitely a trap . McDavid over 💯
points not easy to obtain
it is when your mcdavid
I know.
Who do I vote for? Yesterdays was 👎🏽
goalie saves already won
I’ve seen all red too many times to know that’s going over lol
Is it a good one?
idk i have to look at it one sec
It was a pretty valid comparison.. but to clarify one of Columbus players got killed in a bike accident like 2 months ago and i think they’re honoring him tn and with fla being on a b2b i think Columbus should shoot @silk moat
Holy crap
why didnt anyone vote for knight
terrible taco
Hit on last 8 of 10
Johnny was a wagon hella reliable
Yall think Blackwood a trap?
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Free.99
taco will be a sweat
Chat thoughts on nhl picks?
logan thompson had 21 saves last time out
What yall think
There is no way they let you put 200 on a taco
What about him going 3/3 in 2024-23 ?
100, I cancelled the other one
So Nikita is better goblin to take?
Goblin?
Yeah I’m looking for a goblin
Yeah
Bett
Gotta be a v i p member . This was years ago
put me on gang
I knew you could put 100, not 200 but then he said he canceled the other one
Josh Allen hit his over on pass+rush yards every matchup against the Jets except last night. Gamblers fallacy has got me hooked
I’m not a v i p member lol it’s completely random unless you are a celebrity
Nikita Kucherov getting 3 sog or fade