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Jarvis for 2 but nah he can't do it lmao
C’mon pastaaa
1 MO TAV
make that 3
Okay I thought I shii wasn’t refreshing
Yup 9 of last 10 he had hit
When did JT get 2?
Come on auston we need one more‼️‼️
if barkov get these 2 more SOG then i will have all green😅
Matthews face off win 🔥🔥
I can’t believe Barkov missed twice for the push
Leafs another miss
MALKIN 1
Come on Matthews we need you to come through
He had a good match up vs preds too
man screw that why regress against the preds smh
yeaa fla goalies chalked right
WAKE TF UP MATTHEWS
❌✅
Yeah. It sucks
Wha y’all think
Sam needs to get 1 more to push
aho really aint get a hit??? mans played weak today smh
PLD over
Sebastionnn need a hit
Let’s hope macann somehow wakes up & shoots 3 in the third
Could Tyler get one more
Not shii we need Matthews to come thru‼️‼️
exactlllyyyy
Wym I’m new to hockey
fla needs goals right now
these no names got the sogs the teams unserious
he got 2 and dipped bro its over 😂😂
He’s a player for Wpg
OVI GOAL SO FREE
Luc dubois
Kreider banned
Matthews better not sell
pierre
Dam he’s done playing ?
CMON REINHART
MCCAN 1
Kadri 1
Cmon Matthews
MCCANN
no but i doubt he gets another
He got 2
YES START SHOOTING BRO
Should I lock this
DAMN
MATHEWS wya
REINHART MIAS
is barkov doing anything
Bra he got 1 😂
Miro 2
Huh
PASTA CLUTCH UP G
😐
Kadri 2!!!
Auston‼️‼️ clutch up
WHO SAIDDDDDDD LOGAN THOMPSON
Ahh
Miro 2!!
jarvis chalked ?
vladimir pushhhhh
Kadri 2!
Mia
Reinhart 3 misses
LMAO
i neeeed barkov
Cmon jarvis
Prolly
Cancel it
nooo
LETANG 1
Matthews 4
i cant
MATHEWSSSS
Bang
thats crazy 😂😂😂 fire asfff bro
LETS GOOOOOOOOO
6 more saves cmon
I seen you post this too
PASTA TUCK
if i have barkov i have all green
ME TF IN
PASTA PLEASE TUCK
GUENTZEL 1
Auston please
I NEED 6 Serg saves
Wyattt✅
MATTHEWS
MATTHEWS 4 LFG
Get 1 more auston
5 now
MIRO free
matthews. sergei and pasta please
BRADY TKACHUK IS CRAZY
AUSTON
Matthew at 4?
MATTHEWS 4
Auston‼️‼️‼️
Lfg
5 SAVES
5 he got it 🤞
LFG
CMON LEAFS PLS 5 shots
He got 1
sergei please
Come on pasta salad
HE NEED 1 more. Make it green
SERGEI 21 SAVES
pasta and sergei i lost faith inn bark
Nylander 3
NYLANDER 3
Yuh
oh shit!!!
Need 3 more
Nylander/Carter ✅
Chris Kreider L
NYLANDER YOU BEAUTY
Goalie picks looking 💩
PASTA PLS
Another leafs blocks
pasta one more matt one more
PASTA AND SERGEI PLEASE
thoughts on this?
JARVIS PLEASE
hopefully fla needs to score & Tor needs to shoot
Pasta off ice ugh
Tkachuks over 8.5 so free
is barkov still on
Matt tkachuk 4
MATTHEWSSS PUSH
Matthew let’s make it 4, let’s go over
Matthew Tk 4
FOUR MORE
5! *
THANK YOU NYLANDER
Jarvis bro
Flames pp
Bark & Reinhart more misses than shots
Tkachuks at 10 casual wagon night for the boys🫡
Y’all think Matthew gonna make it 5? 💪🏼🚀🔥
Jarvis man pls 1 more
it's over
matt tk 4 let’s go cash the tk bros
Pasta is dead to me
Thcuck 4
Stutzle ,hedman, nd batherson are all ban
Pasta prayer circle
pasta will be him
can the kraken shoot
watch
CMON PASTA
ong Jarvis is so ass he had an opportunity to shoot and passed it
SERGEIII COME ON
pasta coming back in I need that shot
How much time left
Can Seth push man
I need him bad
Krejci goal
Matthew can you give me 5
Pasta boy pls
Ik you can
PASTAplzzz
Thank Jared for that shot please just push if possible
3 minutes left need hurricanes to score
Boston goal
chalked
Pasta will heat up we need sum parmesian cheese widit tho
Pasta hook boutta be crazy
Pasta might be over wit
CMON SERGEI
fr
PLEASE HURRICANES SCORE
bark chalked ?
Those blocks fuked us pasta
Pasta assist 🙃
sergeiiiii
Jarvis get 1 more man
Oettinger on pace for 40 great pick
serger 4 more
Hintz with 1 SOG
Damn bark
SERGEI NO
KEEP SHOOTING BEFORE THEY TAKE HIM OFF
SERGEI NO
Barkov is banned for a little
Facts
bruhhhh no i need the saves sergei
SERGEI BANNED
Yeah
Bob is so ass. Pens ruined him
yea sergeri done guys
Pasta bro don’t sell like this man
fla ass wtf
teravainen chalked
Pasta got the telephone c@ll
pasta will hit he has a lot of time..
They keep taking matthews sog 😂 I need one more
Jarvis chalked
Why did I chose Barkov instead of carter
Jarvis chalk
Sergei cant save a beach hall
Smh jarvis
Sergei needs 4 more
Evgeni 👀
Sergei’s gotta be chalked right
Jake 2
come onnnnn i need barkov
Absolute fire homie
Smh
yea
Bro u in here again faking slips 😂
GUENZTEL 2
Stamkos 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
hes done
Fla pp
anyone know how many saves sergei got?
Why did I fade jake and zucker
lol
bro pls jarvis
Where can I watch the game for free???
jarvis chalked 🤦🏾♂️
Barkov 2 incomin
Sergei saves chalked?🥺
CASH HIM OUT
Cmon Sam
I THINK JARHIS FOR 2
Pasta getting another shot?
Hofer hooked lmao
Sergei saves chalked
I WILL NEVER TAKE A GOALIE PROP AGAIN.
JARVIS GOT 2 I THINK
Cmon Sam
cap
i saw him shoot and keeper saved
trolling lol
Especially not from ambassador 🤣
PASTA JUST NEEDS 1 MORE BRO
They killing it today 😅😂😂
PASTAAAAAA
Oettinger going for 50 saves bruh
Pasta 5!!!!
PASTA PLZ BRO
hey is barkov still in
LETS GO
LFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG PASTAAAAAAAAAAA
PASTA
LFGGGG
LETS GOOOOO
Bark come on
YES PASTA
RAHHHH
😂
fax @pale girder f your slips
LETS GOOOO
WE TURNT
PASTA
SERGEI BANNED
PASTAAAAAA
WE TURNT
So free cash it
I’M SORRY I EVER DOUBTED U
LFG PASTAAA
Why is he at 4 when I saw him shoot
PASTA HIM
Deadassss
tylerrrrrrr 3333
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CASH IT
Cashhhhh that jointt
Pastaaaa lfgggg
So free
how many saves sergei on?
Holy
WHYD I REFUND THIS WTFFF
PASTAAA BABY
Bangggggg
IM SORRY PASTAGOAT
Cmon Sam
Ahahahaha
Why is pasta at 4
Pasta has 5
bro put the goalie back in it’s 6-2 lmao
Nvm he hit just now
He just hit
He got stat corrected wtfff
I just watched the game Dw slapshot on goal
Where can I watch the game at?????
Pasta 5 ✅✅
DID PASTA HIT????!!
So free after it hits is the easiest thing to say
he’s at 4
They don’t come back haha
What
Oh they put it back
Yess
😂
WE LITTT
teravainen sucks jesus
Otter might reverse sweep again
smh
espn he has 5
Yessir
cause they just sold me bro said logan thompson goalie saves🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
sergei🥲
0/2
Sebastian choked it smh
Got my hopes up
Luc-dubois over?
Forsure I tailed w $5 🤣
Oettinger going over
no ur goofy
Sergei sold me so hard broooo
Matthew gonna get 5?
Let matthews get empty net😩
All these goalie plays are cooked
pasta hit
Bro please don’t touch these mf goalie props lmao
Matthews on ice Fla empty net matthews hatty inbound
teravainen ruined my night absolute fraud
Matthews on ice Fla empty net matthews hatty inbound
Auston if u could get 1 more that would be great
Broo seth can’t get 2 at least
this is why i don’t take goalies ever
Duh lol going against the pens if u out under u deserve to lose 😂
bruh said jarvis had 2
Barkov suck
Update
game ended
Jarvis sold me
Montour 4
Barkov u suck
Stamkos and Jarvis ruined my night
Drake 3
Pasta getting 6
MONTOUR BANG
Stamkos 🗑️
Aye pp cash pasta out now thank you stop blurry balling me
lol
I can’t type Jesus
Y’all thing Seth Jarvis gonna get 1 more sog
How did aho do ¿
damn lil bro
Bark banned
One more for me Austin please
Barkov dog shit
Damn he not gon get it ?
fukk aho smh
Goalies all over
(:
sergei back in?
Dog 💩
Idk if I should be happy or mad dawg
No games over
game over
Always one person on the 6 man
bro I swore I saw that Reinhart got a tip in save and they gave it to Eeth
Bro sold ?
Eetu
yup
Goalie picks today were not it
Matthews only pushing Ggs
I wanna smack the shit outta barkov
yes, game over
😐
What app is dis?
PASTAAAAAAAAA
Why would you put Jarvis with them
Barkov needa let go of hockey
I WANT BENTLEY I WANT MONEY
This sport isnt for him
Dude I feel that
😂😂😂😂😂
😭
Ambassador goalie really going 0 for 3 tonight. On his star plays wow
😂😂😂😂
Stutzle so ass bro
Goalie props never cashed me
Star plays supposed to be your best right cmon man
Never again
Barkov banned for at least a few games
Amchalkssador
OTTINGER RELAX
the one time i take em he wanna f up smh
PLEASE
This a refund since Mathew pushed right?
STUTZLE had a 3 week long streak and everyone thought he was the goat
Flex play I'm chilling n bc the sog was good he literally passes up a open shot
matthews shoulda soared over 4 like wdf
it a L
PITTSBURGH RELAX
unfortunately
no
CHILL
😦
Goes to a 2 man
turns into a 2 man
That’s an L, i fear
NORE MORE SOG
They took reactions off ambassador chat lines cuz they don’t wanna see the 🚮 🚮
I feel you bro I fell for him too
smh
NO MORE SOG
Bob u saves was free
NO MORE SOG
Is Bobrovsky chalked
ofc its always be goalie
AMBASSADORS WYA
But it’s 2 players from the same team
👀
Game over 😂
Wouldn’t 2 players from the same team be a refund
AMBASSADORS MEET ME IN MY OFFICE
Planning their next picks 😂😂😂😂
oh shit u right
Oh yeah i didn’t peep that, should be
Ambassadors be disappearing after they chalk 💀
Bark was payed by Pp
Bobrovsky needs to go back to the ahl
WHY DID THE AMBASSADORS LEAVE THE CHAT
Learn how to save a beachball
Rule #1 don’t follow ambassadors picks 😭
Exactly
YOU DON’T GET TO CHALK SLIPS AND LEAVE ON US
Sens O 6.5 goals✅
This why i never go with goalie props lol
Seth Jarvis 🪝🪝🪝
I’m glad I don’t tail them
Needa put a X on all dem ambassador tickets
smh
Tbf nothing says y’all have to tail them 🤷♂️
They won’t let us
Ambassadors be like:
Damn toffoli 2 mangi 1
Mulch has arrived
@mental flax the rangers suck how they get 13 shots
it’s a resource
pastrnak jersey otw
Hi Mulch
Im talm bout dem bx’s needa b big😂 kause not one of dem bx’s hit
How are you
How’s this ?
Juuse Saros + Joey Daccord saves?
“Frederick Anderson under free” MY ASSS
Cash
y’all think Thomas hetl gonna get 2.5 SOG OVER?
Good and you?
Ottinger under was questionable ngl
Sharks so bad he’ll be lucky to get one
Damn Seth can’t grab 1 more lmao
Not too bad, could be better but I had a couple slips chalked on bad tails
After y’all tail ambassadors
Tkachuk + Tkachuk over 8.5 ✅
If anyone did that theyare retarted idk why that under
🤡
reminder to go w ur gut, tailing can only do so much good
This is true
Saving this quote 💀
i need Malkin , Hertl and Schwartz
How bikers eat their sketii
Toffoli 3
Wish they would post recaps. “Another L sorry guys”
Should’ve put more on the three man…
No instead they delete them like they never happened
Kinda drives me nuts lol
Then try to post a winner right smh
✅🤣
never again after today🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mulch is the only man I trust around this place
Carolina had a elite defense vs us
I don’t trust the hockey ambassadors anymore
We won tho cash rangers MLLLL
GOOD JOB BANBASSADORS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hope y’all learned y’all lesson.
Y’all I was high asf placing this
them mf’s suck
Rumor has it ambassadors became ambassadors once they hit $2,000 in losses for a single month!
They really went MIA right now
J-e-t-s jets jets jets
If y’all are tailing ambassadors w more than $5 bucks you’re trippin
fleury was the last straw i learned my lesson
Otter went with fluery under 😂 😂
my own picks hit
Dude was talking entire games for Pasta b ish. Never said a word about they goalie picks 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same here lol
OTTER JUST LOSING $100’s😂😂🤣🤣🤣
hertl o2.5 is FREEEEEEEEEEEE
ong like na bih what about this pick
MALKIN 2
just why
Otter best goalie nevr wager under otter
14 saves is criminal
Got 5$ for ambassadors to let me replace them
🤣🤣
#NEVEROTTER
Who’s better lukas dostal or john Gibson
But fr where they at so we can go opposite of the next goalie pick for this game
Plz Mccan 2 more shots atleast
kill the otters
the chat is rebelling against otter
Alright enough with the ambassador hate, it’s unclassy asl. they ain’t force you to tail them they just put out what they think is gonna hit
gibson a coin respector
Naw bra y’all doing ppl wrong
And y’all ain’t ever in chat for when they put out greens too ¯_(ツ)_/¯
exactly it’s so rare
OH MY GOD
nah i was here when otter was hot 😹🤨😹
HE KILLED HIM
I don’t tail ambassadors but for the ppl that do I feel bad for 🤣
Dostal just as good tho like idk really know much bout him
Otter was hot at one point
MCCANNN NOOOOO
B2B 😭✅
Ik Gibson is one of best goalies in NHL
Now Otter’s swimming in cold buckets
Saddly
I tail ambassadors when I feel they will hit, personally.
bro my fav
bro mccann b2b misses
Last warning and any more will be getting timed sorry
no more ambassador hate !!
Imagine hating on ambassadors when YOU placed the slip
ambassador working for prize picks
I’m sorry Mr. Mulch, I’ll keep it down
Oh man not the timer !!!
Guys shut up about the ambassadors picks! This is a community we all trying to win! YOU HIT THE PLACE BUTTON NOT THEM!
Y’all best listen to the adults
yea they were plays that hit today noobs get good
Mulch taking control is so hot
23h 59 min 30secs
Dang Ain even get a warning last time I just got banned for a week 🤦🏾♂️
Holy green
IMAGINE GETTING UPSET AT SOMEONE TRYING TO HELP YOU!
only control hell have in his life
Grow up kids.
Helppppp?! 🤣
Need domi for the bang
I got banned for a reaction emoji choice once. Ong
dont care we did it yay
was today free ? @old sun
Here’s the legal states for prize picks if anyone wanted to learn today!!
Did they make you hit the place button?
Allat just to get bounced
What are states?
I got timed for saying someone rushed a pic 😂
that comment just to swerve outta a spot
sorry bout that
T swift - bad blood
Naw ion tail ambassadors I jus feel bad for ppl who do
💀
i know Nevada bored af
I love you Mulch
McCann
anyone else running frank vatrano tn???
〽️
WHO here is fan of hockey!? (Raises hand a little joking I’m s joking
He’s chalked bro
It’s over with
Bro only got 1 rn and keeps missing
Back to back missed shots
If McCann doesn’t hit Trent curse strikes again
3.0
3
damn if only i waited for him to drop instead i placed jarvis 😭
Tarasenko a whole ass trash can
McCann was a 2.0 prop y’all really went for his 3.0 over 💀
@pale girder keep doing you brother, don't let these fools dissuade you from how awesome you are. You win some and you lose some. I wanna say thanks for all the help you have provided throughout these months I've been here.
u can chalk this lol
Watching shark tank atm
Goalie saves under are risky rn ngl
under against a hot pittsburg team
McCann was a really good look today against the Preds. Bro just keeps missing I ain’t mad at him
Teams tryna make the playoffs they shooting more
@somber dagger pens fan himself said they needed that win
Just stay away from goalie props in general
i was tailing otter
Jake going crazy
Oh welp
Trueee shit happens bro
I didn’t expect chi to go over though
McDouble
against the YOTES 💀
Against the yotes
What you say about me
Let’s eat!
Reimer under
Any of the upcoming goalie savea a lock?
Hellebuyck over
They went under on ottigner
Madmen
What do we think
I was saying u guys needed this win
i would go over on reimer
Most shots they’ve taken against SJ this year was 25
One more mccan
Less on karlsson is free ✅
What do I do if the person I referred is having trouble verifying their drivers liscense?
this is jus chalked ain’t it ….. smh
Today ass
C'MON MCCANN
Today was free
Cap
Hertl over?
He betta hitt
Any locks for rn
Why everyone so high on Vatrano
He’s soaring under
BANG
BANG RANDY
YESSIRRR
How many saves did Sergei get
McCann 2 cmon give us 1 more bro
21
not enough
Omg sorry ass
Ayo I got a question real quick first time in this nhl shi
McCann barely missed
bro
Someone tipped it
is McCann gonna push?
Wassup
we may have an answer
WE NEED 1 FROM MCANN
I’m tryna see if they hit bruh but I doubt they did tbh
McCann I’ll take a push bro
Penguins pp
reminder to go w ur gut, tailing can only do so much good
doesnt coleman have a shot on goal
Nope, 46
why they take one away
Kadri 3
Kadri 3
Come on McCann I believe
Malkin miss
Backlund can you shoot bro?
damn good thing I did a slip for less too bruh😭 but damn
SEA PP
Letang blocked
Only had 52 combined
Yep you’re lucky lol
NEED MCCAN
mccann OT please
Eichel 1
like wtf
What bruh lmao
the misses are so frustrating
appreciate it🤝🏼
Piet miss NOOO
52 shots, but only 46 saves
Dubois missed and blocked already
Piet miss😐
need a mccann bang bro
Either way they went under
Yeen give me time
Omg😂😂😂
Mark 1
wow otteniger 15 already
Need PLD
need this second period to slow down hella
Ion see it
CROSBY GOAL
@sweet ridge Lana Del Rey song is out
CROSBY 2
The goat scores
There it go Pierre
pld 1
pierre gone be turnt for the next couple games
Roope 2 misses😐
Backlund pls bro jus 2 more and we chillin
MCCANN BRO
Can they let my boy Jason get in the ice keep takin bro off so quick
He’s on ice now
Vatrano blocked 😡
zucker 3
Miller goal
RUST 2
JASONNNNNNNN
Boeser 1
😭😭
CROSBY 3
Kyle Connor 1
LETS GOO
zucker freeeeee
Chalk jake saves
im not sure why i took oetingger under
Backlund cmon
MCCANN CMON
Bad play
Especially with Pit fighting for the 8th seed
He’s off ice but can hit in OT
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
JETS PP
yea v embarassing
my last leg on 2 slips
🤣
mccann hook 😂😂😂😂
Hey @raven chasm how bout @jovial sky and his excel spreadsheet method he has with online dating? 👀
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatup
WHAAAAAAAAAAAATUP is here
LFG
Hertl goal
HERTL GOAL
DUBOIS 2 blocked alr
Pld blocked
Oettinger saves so chalked
@grim kettle 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥
TOmas is himmmmm
What’s up dog?
does anyone have jaden schwartz shots?
Duchene blocked
Great way to start Ramadan🤲🏾
Dang Thomas hertl had one they took it back
Mynamejeffffff!!!!
need 3 more saves from saros
mccann sad asf
So free
MAKLKIN BANG
Vatrano 1
Vatrano
Lemme see that green @austere kettle that was surgical
Bruh
Y’all me and this dude @fallow star used to run trains of fat heuxs in high school 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽 MYNAMEJEFFFF
Karlsson 2
Schwartz couldn’t get 2 ? 🤡
Got OT
No he’s ass lol
he just need 1 more
Vatrano 1
Oettinger cashing 2nd period !!!
Wpg/Ana goal U 8 min cashed ✅
vatrano babbyyy
JT miss
erik 2
Don't mccan have overtime? Or is it gg
how hasn't mccann shot
its that vibe its that bounce day in day out working our butts off on that 9 to 5 but really we just wanna vibe so lets get into that bounce yall
McCann not even on ice
Nsh+sea goalies over chalked?
BANG . one more slip left
🧜🏿♂️🧜🏿♂️🧜🏿♂️🧜🏿♂️
REIMER UNDER IS A LOCKKK
VATRANO 1
Ducks goal
need 2 more shots from kraken
Did u cash from that play I sent 👀
Frank hitting?
It’s only 1.5 but i’ll take it
Hahaha you’re so funny and sexy bro ❤️❤️
🧞♂️🧞♂️🧞♂️
Bunting Fr robbed matthews of 4 😔
Hertl 1
Backlund chalked already smh
Do sea players ever hit ?
Puck hogging ass mf 😭
Or 5 my bad
Nah on god empty net for the hatty this why matthews gonna go play in Arizona to stat pat
Connor jus started tho
The fact that jets only have 7 shots so far against the ducks is criminal
@digital rock
Roope 2 misses 1 block😐
mccann has concrete in his skates
mccann hitting ?
McCann under
that is such a good time that reminds me of the time i was younger hanging out by the water fountain when
Ni99as was talkin shii bout my slip Wea y’all at now
Gg
Great… canucks pp
Vatrano hitting?
Ima keep sending cs you had me fuccckkkk up
dude thats like the day spongebob went to
Why did I go under Erik karlsson 😭😭😭
It’s hitting rn gang
I like how y’all ignoring him lmao
you really should know not
My boi I told you
mcann bro
Benn 3✅
We HITTIN FUCCCKKKK ALLAT
mccann banned 4 life
Roope is horrible omg
Under
J rob tho
you really should check out
Been shaky lately
ik
Fact that you couldn’t even push against the preds with no Josi??? Your banned
What’s up with him
Josi is like
mccann fkn trash 😂
exactly bro smhhh
ottinger man😖
Get off my d1!ckk kid
J rob used to be a lock for sog now bro is inconsistent as hell
Bro you are such a
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dude is the jayson tatum of nhl
Piet miss again
Bruh i cant believe seth
Mccann can hit in shootouts right?
& ya OG is a INFECTED TWAT
Quinn Hughes blocked
Nah tatum would always be inconsistent like he would never be 5/5
No doesn’t count
No
Whaaa
did schwartz push?
J rob is at least 5/5 sometimes
do goalie saves count in so?
No
damn
He only hit 1 each time they played last two game vs van
Wooow
I believe so
o yea 😂😂 it’s just wen both r on fire they’re amazing but when they playing like ass ain’t no coming back
kraken didn’t get 2 sog in 10 mins
Roope playing so bad
thats like taking a pig to roll around in
Yeah it’s unfortunate for J rob. Tatum on the other hand, I don’t care
😂😂😂😂
imma just leave kraken players alone
Why didn’t you take back shots🥴
you think dings are like the way to go inside out when the roller coaster goes over the
LaDevooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
yea i can’t stand tatum at all😂
lmaoooooo
Shootout don't count as sog right ?
Sadly no
Are you kidding me
Idk🥲
did schwartz push?
Whoever told me to take karlson under I hope you don’t live to see light tomorrow
Nope
💀
😂😂😂😂
Kraken banned
Always been banned
1 shot in OT lol
Bro how is a wrist shot off post not on goal ?
@raven chasm whats your favorite Yellowcard song?
Roope would’ve soared😡
Jrob tuck me in
shoot out doesnt count as sog anyway