And other data from humans
#CaloMari’s Alterna Research Labs
dim lynx
Even really old Inklings and Octolings wouldn't know details about how humanity really perished, only ORCA, so I bet Grizz mentioned ORCA
merry hemlock
random thought: what if the liquid crystals werent absorbing current thoughts persay, but memories?
it would seem to align, alterna's sky was made from the people's memories of what the sky looked like
and provides a huge connection which i didnt think of before now
what if mem cakes are solidified crystals
and they were really mem crystals the whole time
cyan thunder
Mem cakes act very differently than the liquid crystals. They do share some similarities but mem cakes are physical manifestations of a persons memories. All liquid crystals can really do is create images mem cakes can give a person memories.
steel pagoda
Mem Cakes are able to evoke 8’s lost memories but I don’t think they have any true memory magic power like the crystals do
merry hemlock
True
i did have a theory on this
what if the launch code for the rocket was... the melody of calamari inkantation? if the theory that if was a human song originally is true
so he needed cuttlefish's essence because it had calamari inkantation etched into his soul
cyan thunder
But there isn’t anything backing up the idea of the Calamari Inkantation being from humans. If I remember right they said the Calamari Inkantation is a folk song.
steel pagoda
To my knowledge Calamari Inkantation isn’t like, a particularly super powerful song either, it’s just one that everyone knows and is inspired by or something
small plinth
the calamari inkantation had nothing to do with splatoon 3's ending smallfry just did that on his own
harsh depot
with the help of the spirits or something
cyan thunder
Well it is the week of Tears of the kingdom releasing. So it’s time for me to get off of the internet until I finish the game. I ain’t taking no chances this time. I’ve been spoiled too much before so this time I’m going on lockdown. Hope everyone gets their copy on release date. Bye! 
atomic tulip
Well it is the week of Tears of the kingdom releasing. So it’s time for me to ge...
BATMAN DIES AT THE END!
dim lynx
And Aquaman drowns
elfin pewter
And the flash goes slow
humble junco
the trees walk on legs
harsh depot
the trees walk on legs
||ironic||
cyan thunder
Hello. Yes it’s real. Calomari is back. Tears of the kingdom was amazing if anyone was wondering doubt it though because I’m guessing everyone bought it. I was gone for… 40 days. And In those 40 days there has been 6 posts. So clearly people haven’t been active in this research facility. I am going to try to change that fact. I’m getting the lab up and running again. And if Engisonic is reading this: thank you for all your contributions to the loreum and splatoon lore community as a whole! I hope most of the people in this loreum thingy haven’t left the server. This is Calo-Mari signing off
cyan thunder
Note- if this thing comes back from the dead I’m gonna post like every other day
small plinth
i'll pencil in some time to reread through all (shucking shell, one thousand??) 1000 posts to get up to speed, then maybe do some walking around looking for something new
cyan thunder
I noticed a few things related to sites polygons for when you aren’t on them. The first thing is that I need to explain. When you aren’t on a site the developers thought “Oh now that the person isn’t on the site why would we still keep it fully detailed, let’s lower the polygon amount to save processing power.” This low polygon method has what I think is 2 stages. The first stage is one site away. The changes here are most round and circular objects get less round and circular. The things on the islands on the pipe to the current site are still full quality and the site mainly has an okay amount. Some buildings on site 5 and 6 disappear completely. (The windows still stay though) The second stage is two sites away and everything hits hit with that low poly count. Everything is vaguely resembling the original structures. The things on the islands are also effected. Note: this was a old observation I made during my TotK internet shutoff, don’t know if it still applies to this day. I will try to find the photos of this phenomena (is that word right here? It really isn’t THAT exciting it’s just a change in polygons) at a later date, preferably tomorrow.
harsh depot
yeah i saw that too the other day
i doubt the story mode will ever get updated ever and a low poly count that seriously efficiently saves power wont change tbh
small plinth
I noticed a few things related to sites polygons for when you aren’t on them. Th...
according to the filesystem, there's only 2 levels of detail: fully-loaded (Fld_BigWorld_Area0X) and far-away (Fld_BigWorld_Area0X_Far)
cyan thunder
I’m still on the quest of finding out all the meanings of the song titles and band names of the alterna hub world music.
So far I know the meaning of: whirlpool tune and on the clock whirlpool tune being a reference to alterna draining all of the flood water into it. And on the clock referencing fact the site was a food lab thing and people worked there. That is really the only two I’m solid on. There is a couple I’m kinda “eh” on the meaning of and not completely convinced of my conclusion but I hope I figure out the puzzle. Most of the ones I have got a bit of a clue of share a similar pattern: song name is event related and band name is site related. Wait… I just had a thought that might connect the names of each song! They are all related to the draining of the flood water!!!!! Sandcastles refers to the fact things got washed away into the water, sudden depth refers to the increase in the depth of the water from the draining, (two shadows in the sun still doesn’t make sense here like… what does that even mean?????), Dead Sea refers to the fact that the water is devoid of life currently?(that one is less solid), already said about whirlpool tune earlier, and hyper diver refers to the buildings getting flooded and sinking a bit into the water. Now that I think about it it isn’t that solid and might just be a coincidence but it’s a step in the right direction. Maybe I’ll think better in the morning. I should sleep.
cyan thunder
The change in the alterna skybox from the trailer to the main game is really interesting. It opens up questions like “why did they change it?” And “can it be recovered?”
unique crystal
Trailer one looks more complex, and it's artificial nature seems more subtle.
They wanted it to be more clearly artificial, so the lines were made brighter, and then they simplified the clouds, possibly for contrast reasons, possibly for performance.
cyan thunder
I also gotta say, the water looks a LOT crappier than in the final game
steel pagoda
I just realized that the initial trailer version of the islands lacks the Fuzzy Ooze
small plinth
interesting how the lighting changed, too.
beta alterna is outright indigo-purple, whereas retail is more of a cyan.
steel pagoda
Retail feels generally more like a more realistic day setting ig
small plinth
i don't think there's any way to recover the trailer sky texture outside of, like, stealing from nintendo's internal asset archives.
might be worth looking into skies that are in game to see if the cloud patterns are reused in other sky textures but less purple. might be able to recreate it that way.
you could probably at least get the smoother sky by making the texture of the metal frame lines translucent, due to the way alternas sky works (its basically just a standard sky sphere with the hollow metal frame slightly smaller, giving the illusion of triangular lcd panels without making the UV mapping a complete nightmare for the developers)
i dont know if skybox model asset replacements are really a thing, but i highly doubt they're impossible since they're just models, and clothing replacements are already a thing.
hm. maybe i should look into that. might be worth making a mod.
you'd have to change the env files to change the lighting too though
uh oh i'm getting into the zone. now a fey mood has taken hold and i want to try and make a proof of concept.
cyan thunder
Another thing is that there is a moai that doesn’t exist anymore! Either they made an area for this end of the trailer bit or they were still tweaking the look of Future Utopia Island.
They also had snow overhang bits in this early FUI that they got rid of.
I wonder what the other sites looked like at the time
I’m going to scour the trailer for any glimpse of the other sites
More overhang plus you can see that the crates are missing the “Site” looking text and instead have an Alterna logo!
Hmmm maybe Future Utopia Island was a bit bigger?
Octopods don’t have any fuzzy ooze in em’.
I’ve always wondered why there is…. paint? On this rocket bit here. (I might be crazy but wouldn’t you normally be able to see site this from here?)
small plinth
i'm having to learn about hermite curves in order to change the color grading for this beta lighting mod.. help
steel pagoda
Octopods don’t have any fuzzy ooze in em’.
Not only that, but they also don’t have their fuzzy variant shoes
small plinth
I’ve always wondered why there is…. paint? On this rocket bit here. (I might be ...
i think site 5 is hidden behind the gantry and site 6 is hidden behind the rocket. just below the bridge theres a blur of gray that might be the pipeline?
cyan thunder
Everything is either in a level, outside the space center, or in site one. And almost everything faces away from the other sites.
This COULD maybe have 3 pixels of another site but it’s hard to tell where on Utopia it is. It’s facing away from the rocket is all I can really tell.
Now that I think it’s probably This area
There is a box on the helipad!
It’s like a dreams re-creation of current Alterna. More or less the same with little differences that don’t mean much but are interesting to investigate.
cyan thunder
What DOES it mean?
elfin pewter
What DOES it mean?
tl;dr
harsh depot
i can fix her
cyan thunder
There was like 50% of the rocket in the debris model but a strange amount of extra parts
cyan thunder
Like the main satellite space shuttle thing part here
I’m guessing that’s what is stored in this section of the Spirit Lifter
cyan thunder
Just to note in the files the orange rocket parts are called Atlas, the outside rocket parts (gray ones) are called boosters, and the top parts are called Shuttle.
The top Shuttle parts reminded me of an actual Space Shuttle.
They could have been trying to copy Ark Polaris in a way by also having a space shuttle looking satellite with humans and animals on it.
cyan thunder
Wait does anyone have the Ark Polaris model? I wanna have a poke around.
small plinth
ugh hang on
small plinth
Wait does anyone have the Ark Polaris model? I wanna have a poke around.
heres the background model for Ruins of Ark Polaris. does not include the actual playable area or skydome.
its in .dae format and can be imported into blender, but youll have to assign metallic/roughness/normal maps to each material manually. only the albedo and emissive textures are assigned automatically. tedious work.
cyan thunder
Thank you! I will post if find anything of note and even if I don’t, it still will be fun just looking at it!
cyan thunder
I hate textures.
cyan thunder
I wonder if the sky in the background is the trailer sky or the game sky?
small plinth
too low quality to be really certain, unless you want to try and compare cloud patterns
i mean, that moai row is a location on future utopia island. i think i took a screenshot from the same angle for inkipedia actually hang on
hm. interesting.
as far as i can tell from the clouds, that's the modern sky texture but the beta metal frame.
retail for comparison
notice how the dark patch on the cloud to the right matches, but the triangular frame is either missing or too subtle to show up on the dithered, low-quality log image
(as well as that half-moai in the back being missing, though it could just be blocked by the slightly different camera angle)
so, if i had to guess, i'd say... that log photo was taken in a beta, but a later beta than the trailer?
cyan thunder
I can’t stop thinking about what the meaning of the band and song names!!!!
It is such a strange obsession
I just want to know what the meaning is
I know the meaning of a few things like “On the Clock” is referring to the fact that people work at site 5. And “Mimicry” is referring to site 2s role in creating mimics of artifacts
but what the HELL does “Two Shadows in the Sun” mean????
humble junco
do you think "Two Shadows in the Sun" could be referring to something within Alterna or a past event?
cyan thunder
I can’t think of anything that would be related to the sun
The relationship between the song name and the artist name seems to be Artist name seems to be referring to the job of the site and the song name refers to something AT the site. Unless that relationship is incorrect then I have no basis on making up a theory!
cyan thunder
I don’t know what is it but I just have a feeling that the hubworld music is just important
cyan thunder
I always thought there was a little bit of Alterna Space Center in the loading song
harsh depot
wtf this whole time this song has existed and i had no idea
cyan thunder
Also this one
harsh depot
ok actually maybe i knew of this song but i never payed attention to it
cyan thunder
This one is so funky and weird and I don’t remember hearing it in game
I think it is from when you first go into “Get to Know Alterna, Your Only Choice”
harsh depot
no its the uh boss fight entrance terminal
cyan thunder
Ah okay
harsh depot
cause your presence is unauthorized ig
cyan thunder
I thought it had no music but Ig I was wrong
The after alterna one has such a strange name
All of the terminal music sounds so different not filtered
harsh depot
the my dear totle
with the desperate writing
its so interesting
ofc itll proceed to never get explored
nintendo on their way to create really cool concepts but never explore them
cyan thunder
They really should have created more assets for the After Alterna level
It could have been so cool
Really dropped the ball with it 😦
harsh depot
uhgughg imagine after alterna being an old abandoned and un kempt facility
cyan thunder
The after alterna one has such a strange name
The capitalized letters spell out “YEAR”
harsh depot
yeah
cyan thunder
uhgughg imagine after alterna being an old abandoned and un kempt facility
Scratchy versions of the normal level music
harsh depot
alterna had so much potential
it couldve been wdgy but noo
yeah guys we swear alterna fell to ruin
then show me
show me a collapsed cave and remnants of what once was
cyan thunder
Grizz had a giant power washer and got rid of all the dirt
harsh depot
splatoon spinoff
mr grizz alterna powerwash
cyan thunder
How hasn’t a charger been based off of a power washer
They needed more unique debris and needed to place it in more fitting places
I do get why they made it all clean and white
But c’mon after alterna was the perfect chance to show how it really isn’t all perfect
mY dEAR should be the words you think when you gaze apon the ruins of after alterna
Anyways, here is Coastline In the Morning Mist feat. Orca noises
small plinth
How hasn’t a charger been based off of a power washer
because thats what the sting ray special was
cyan thunder
I always thought it was a fire hydrant
small plinth
no, the fire hydrant is the hydra splatling
cyan thunder
OH MY GOD!
I was looking at the texture files for the ark Polaris and I realized that they REUSED some textures for the orange Spirit Lifter debris!
They probably also re-used the same model too!
cyan thunder
It explains why it is named shuttle debris
cyan thunder
I attempted a try at making a “Dirty Alterna” but because I wasn’t happy with how the sky was turning out in my other tries I decided to make the sky from when the crystals exploded
cyan thunder
I was watching this video on an emergency bunker from the Apollo missions (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=89zdHsb2pWU) and it made me wonder if they made an emergency bunker in Alterna? It would also be funny because it would be an emergency bunker IN a emergency bunker.
boreal agate
The spoon lore goes deep....
cyan thunder
It’s a bottomless pit!
elfin pewter
yep
cyan thunder
I made the Spirit Lifter in KSP. Well as well as I could.
small plinth
i really don't want to imagine how squid would have evolved if the liquid crystals were filled with kerbal desires instead of human desires
cyan thunder
The alternans either messed with English on their own time or it is a different language that sound the same as English.
The Ark Polaris has normal basic English
While Alterna has the fresh English
small plinth
The Ark Polaris was implicitly launched just before or during the war that consumed most of the world (In the nick of time, as Log.exe puts it)
Alterna, meanwhile, probably lasted between 30-70 years after said apocalypse, all on their lonesome.
That may have given it enough time for the amalgamation of written Japanese and English into stuff like the "ALたな" logo and "LAUNCH SEQUENCE KAISHI (開始)" alongside the altered alphabet, while not having noticeable drift in spoken language.
harsh depot
preeetyy cool
omg
wait no the devs never said they were striving for an english/japanese combo for the lyrics in splatoon music
cyan thunder
Callie and Marie have apparently drawn the orange original spirit lifter instead of the yellow one in the present.
harsh depot
what the present one wasnt orange
cyan thunder
small plinth
do you really think they're overly concerned with getting the shade of their-what, markers?-totally accurate?
cyan thunder
I mean the squid sisters took the time to draw it so why not get the color right of the giant rocket in front of you
small plinth
iunno, maybe they only had a 36-pack of colored markers and just chose the closest orange?
cyan thunder
They got the yellow right here
small plinth
chief i dunno if your eyes are different from mine but to me the orange marker seems closer to the real rockets hue than the yellow marker
cyan thunder
Now that I’m looking at both of them you are right it does look like the yellow on the spirit lifter is a little more to the orange side than the marker they used for the other parts
Callie and Marie’s artistic choice is solid
harsh depot
they are idols heavily focused on colors tbf
wether their responsibile for their idol clothes or shy ho shy is idk
but if they chose it then they are probably knowledgeable on colors
atomic tulip
but what the HELL does “Two Shadows in the Sun” mean????
Maybe symbolic of how the sun is humanity and the shadow are what happened,
Because at the end of the day after the dreadful things that happened, humanity still shone through
Till
Yk
The rocket
elfin pewter
How does the rocket come out of alterna. Is it through that glitchy hole in the ceiling?
And if that hole was caused by the Octobot incident in the crater, how were the squid sisters + Captain 3 able to appear in alterna if they were there before Neo agent 3?
harsh depot
- the whole isnt the glitchy thing, thats the circle behind grizz in the cutscene where he flies straight up
- the hole was obviously always there, just that the ooze opened it up
- you were unconscious for a while so they came in afterwards
small plinth
How does the rocket come out of alterna. Is it through that glitchy hole in the ...
- there's a proper hole near the very top of alterna's sky (annoyingly not visible except in the launch cutscene) (image 1) that opens into the circular shaft that agent 3 and craig fall down (image 2). this shaft then opens up at the bottom of the crater - the octavio battle takes place on top of the topside hatch (image 3)
- i've always been of the opinion that somehow, agent 3 was knocked into some sort of side passage during the fall (possibly by the fuzzy ooze that nabbed craig) and ended up crashing through the ceiling above future utopia island and creating that glitchy hole. a map of the story path from page 220 of the artbook supports this interpretation (image 4)
- as goose said, agent 3 was unconscious. if i had to guess, the order was probably "octavio, craig, and neo 3 fall" --> "deep cut sneaks down after them" --> "squid sisters and captain arrive at the crater, make their way into alterna, and quickly set up the squid sisters camp"
late grotto
but what the HELL does “Two Shadows in the Sun” mean????
they dropped the sun on Antarctica
elfin pewter
they dropped the sun on Antarctica
preeeeeeeeeetty sure earth would be gone by then
atomic tulip
If it was 2 sun's on a shadow it would be a representation of japan
cyan thunder
That IS an answer but what does it have to do with Alterna itself? All of the other songs I’ve deciphered are related to Alterna itself and I assume that’s the pattern with all of the songs.
harsh depot
well if its two shadows in the sun then that must mean there are 2 light sources right
steel pagoda
that’s right, the background of Alterna was once Tatooine
nah, just kidding, all you need is one light source and two things to cast shadows and then you’ve got two shadows in the sun
cyan thunder
In news related to other cryptic titles of Alterna songs: #38 caught has to be about octarians getting squidnapped by Grizz right?
It just makes sense
The slowed down laugh in the background
The title being “caught”
Honestly that’s kinda all the evidence but no more evidence is even really needed to come to this conclusion.
small plinth
how do you think he even did that
he's not particularly stealthy, being a djungelskog and all
right now my mental image is like, cartoon traps. the guy just set up some leaves over a hole filled with fuzzy ooze.
steel pagoda
dedf1sh being taken once more and gooped by another substance that suppresses her thoughts and doubts:
small plinth
dedf1sh has every toxin
- sanitized ✅
- fuzzified ✅❔
- coral'd
splatoon 4 will have
- new horrible substance: flowering pollen ink
- new song: #74 achoo
midnight knot
Head canon alert
Shiver is at least partially shivling (shark) and Frye is partially fryeling (eel) which allows there connection with sharks and eels respectively for the bosses
Their*
harsh depot
bad headcanon DIE
midnight knot
Also big man’s toxins heightens his brainpower so he can make holograms
midnight knot
bad headcanon DIE
Meanie
Or some astral projection thing
About my big man theorie
Theory*
cyan thunder
What. Bad head cannon.
cyan thunder
The word “shivling” is just so splatoon community
It is typical splatoon community to make up a “ling” but the cherry on top is that the “ling” is named after a character.
atomic tulip
Fr lmao
I mean tbf a shiver is the name of a group of sharks
But it was called a sharkling before shiver, so yeah
steel pagoda
Shiver and Frye are just an Octoling and Inkling respectively with a unique design
Trying to ascribe any other species/mix of species to them just reminds me of how people thought Callie and Marie were cuttlefish for… reasons
Whether it be their unique eyes, their unique tentacles, the fact that their grandfather’s name in the NOA localization is Cap’n Cuttlefish, etc
the fact of the matter is that the designers just really like to make unique standout designs for their NPCs
nothing more, nothing less
cyan thunder
Alterna being called “the last resort” really makes me think even harder that it was a in progress shelter by the time everything went bananas but then how would people settle inside of the volcano? It could only work if Mount Fuji erupted before the end of days.
harsh depot
Alterna being called “the last resort” really makes me think even harder that it...
fortnite
elfin pewter
Congratulations. You’re one of the very few people selecte dto not get sued by nintendo for the most obscure reasons
cyan thunder
Let me go inside the Eco Forest Treehills building
atomic tulip
If only
Also, are the octarians in splatsville been on the serface longer then inkopolis?
Evidence like art and shiver going to school with Frye and Ian
harsh depot
ian? you know his name is manta tarou kizeamon munekiyo right?
steel pagoda
Also, are the octarians in splatsville been on the serface longer then inkopolis...
Yeah, the Splatlandian Octolings are a completely separate group from the Inkadian Octarians
they’ve always been there
steel pagoda
I mean, Agent 3 (be it Inkling or Octoling) is literally a Splatlandian native
we also have records of Octolings existing in the Splatlands way far before the time of the Splatoon games
Octolings of the Splatlands wouldn’t really have any connections with a faction of Octarians across the desert in another region, no?
atomic tulip
ian? you know his name is manta tarou kizeamon munekiyo right?
my bad bro, slipped my mind
atomic tulip
Yeah, the Splatlandian Octolings are a completely separate group from the Inkadi...
so the intire great turf war was just in inkadia
steel pagoda
yep
harsh depot
kkr
cyan thunder
Can anyone decipher what else the announcer is saying other than just the obvious countdown (which starts at 12 for some reason)? I couldn’t really make anything out but I’m interested if anyone else could.
It’s been too long since I’ve posted here so it’s nice to post again
small plinth
Can anyone decipher what else the announcer is saying other than just the obviou...
here's my best guess:
Ignition in 10, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, [Initiating(?) (???) charge/sparks(?)] 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. All [systems/engines(?) running(?)]
("Ignition" is pronounced with aɪ instead of ɪ, so it sounds like "eye-gnition".)
Unsure parts are in [square brackets].
annoyingly, the rocket engine sounds and the intercom are stored as one sound file, and in the same channels of said sound file.
i removed channels that were only rocket noise and lowered the bass to try and get better detail for the sound.
as an alternate attempt at clarity, i also put the original file through ultimate vocal remover and recombined the parts with speech.
both the original and the edited files are below. listen for yourself.
cyan thunder
I’ve been listening to that same sound for so long but I can’t understand that first line
I don’t think it sounds like “Ignition in 10”
But I can’t think of what it sounds like
small plinth
Hi, I'm an idiot.
By chance (and because I was reading a fanfiction with rocketry that led me to search "rocket countdown" on Youtube), I just listened to the Apollo 11 countdown.
I can now provide this updated transcription with near-absolute confidence.
Guidance is internal. 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, Ignition seq(7,)uence start. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. All engines running.
(The following information is based on the real life Saturn V rocket.)
(Unless rocketry changes drastically by the time of Alterna, this should still be considered reliable information.)
Guidance is internal = The inertial measuring unit (IMU), part of the rocket's navigational systems, begins measuring altitude rate & acceleration in relation to the stars instead of the Earth, such that it can properly align with its intended flight path.
To quote NASA's Apollo 11 Flight Journal: "The phrase 'guidance is internal' refers to the moment at T minus 17 seconds that the Saturn V's guidance system is no longer held in an orientation with respect to Earth. It is now inertial and holds an orientation with respect to the stars."
I hope "Ignition sequence start" and "All engines running" are self-explanatory.
@cyan thunder
steel pagoda
Ooh, thanks for doing some solid digging!
atomic tulip
I read that with the "hi, im (name), and your watching disney Chanel" voice
cyan thunder
Matches up perfectly! Thanks for looking into it more.
cyan thunder
Bit late to the party but happy lab-versary! Let’s hope for another year of over analyzing and dead ends! 
🍾🍾
late grotto
yippee
humble junco
amazing
cyan thunder
I had a bit of a scuffle with someone in a different server on if the fuzzified octarians have bones or not and I wondered y’all’s thoughts on it
I personally came to the conclusion that the octarians you fight do not have bones and might get them later on in the fuzzifacation process as it sets in.
steel pagoda
i mean i doubt it
growing hair ≠ growing a skeleton, and I feel like we’d see a skeletal structure whenever we kill an Octarian (which we don’t considering they’re usually ink-based like us)
the true question is whether or not the fuzzified octarians produce milk, which is one of the biggest identifiers of all mammals
cyan thunder
That is a question I don’t think Nintendo is ready to answer
unique crystal
Enemies are described as mammalian, not as actual mammals
Despite all of mr grizz's effort they are not fully mammals, just, mammal-like
small plinth
they're like. partially mammals. iirc devs said that fuzzy octarians are at an earlier stage of mammalification than a furball'd player
cyan thunder
I find it strange that we never got an Alterna jingle
Like there is different sounds around here and there
But there isn’t a signature Alterna song to represent it
Maybe Thrilling Corpate News? But that’s more Grizzco than a special Alterna thing
unique crystal
I think it's sorta implied that some of the grizzco songs were stolen from Alterna?
cyan thunder
Im pretty sure that’s the case?
Maybe phase one future utopia island is sorta the « Alterna Theme »
It’s played at the Crater and at the manhole cover
harsh depot
and also the record get jingle sorta resembles it
steel pagoda
ROTM’s clear jingles are much like OE’s clear/thang jingles in that they don’t really appear until later on, though unlike OE, they’re actually split between 2 songs rather than just 1
The level clear jingle is used in Hide & Sleek, while the boss clear jingle is used in Smeared Canvas
im also not entirely sure if i’d call the Octarian jingle a main jingle for any campaign, as it’s typically used as just a leitmotif for Octarians in general (to the point where it bleeds into OE via the Ebb & Flow demo Marina made while working under Octarian rule and through the level clear jingle, which is actually the Octarian jingle’s chord progression with notes interspersed between to sneakily hide it)
small plinth
In my personal view:
- Sandcastles is the overall song representative of Alterna as a place and concept, although not necessarily its in-universe anthem
- Alterna Shimin Program M-??: mY dEAR serves as a dirge for the civilization's fate, a eulogy for their (inadvertent) role in future species' fresh beginnings, and a "farewell" for its role as a playable space since there's nothing more once you complete After Alterna.
- (TL;DR ||Mourn that they all died, Thanks for being the birthplace of all modern life, "Bye-bye, all of
EvangelionAlterna."||)
- (TL;DR ||Mourn that they all died, Thanks for being the birthplace of all modern life, "Bye-bye, all of
- According to a 2017 dev interview about Splatune 2, Grizzco's songs are outsourced (https://www.famitsu.com/news/201711/17145896.html), so I don't think the Happy Little Workers motif (incl. songs like Thrilling Corporate News and Mr. Grizz Appears) is adapted from anything Alternan.
cyan thunder
Thrilling Corporate News is so confusing, it plays in Alterna but some random made it? And why would it be made the way it is? Unless the phases are intentional choices that Grizz asked for? Big ol’ ball of confusion drizzled in « huh ».
cyan thunder
I think I have decoded Grizz’s cryptic messaging with the vessel/spirit/wisdom thing, unless this is already proven wrong somewhere else.
« The Vessel » is the inklings/octarains that the fuzzy ooze needs to affect them.
« The spirit » is probably the Spirit Lifter, it’s the most obvious choice and it’s a integral part of Grizz’s plan.
« The wisdom of ages » is probably O.R.C.A. Because it houses the wisdom of the humans in alterna which again, helped Grizz make the fuzzy ooze in the first place.
cyan thunder
I think the silence means more than any words can. This is the end of this thread. We have explored every corner of Alterna, rummaged through the files for clues, and have explained a lot of questions I had at the very start of Splatoon 3. Even though I still haven’t figured out all of the meanings of the site song names/song artist’s names, it really is just up to future interviews and story modes to answer any remaining questions about Alterna. This thread has helped me personally in a lot of ways and I’m extremely grateful of everything everyone has contributed to this silly thread I started just over a year ago. Thank you.
harsh depot
cool
merry hemlock
Spire of Order research labs next?
coral burrow
The after alterna one has such a strange name
this one is so upsetting to me for some reason
its almost haunting
the title especially
"mY dEAR", as if someone was typing this in a hurry and wasnt watching the screen as they did
misaligned capslock lol
the song has a hopeful vibe but its so lonely
and the reverbs of the clean room emphasize that feeling further
it also has a very unconventional loop (for splatoon series at least) - its not seamless
3 minutes pass and it fades out, brief silence before its played again
cyan thunder
Forget to comment on this yesterday, but I totally agree on all of this.
cyan thunder
the song has a hopeful vibe but its so lonely
Especially this
The song feels so final, but empty
The track really does encapsulate the entirety of Alterna
It is a glimmer of hope for tomorrow but also is an uncertainty for tomorrow
In a meta sense it also is a glimmer of hope for the rest of the stage, even though it isn’t true. I’ll say this time and time again, we got robbed with after alterna.
olive cypress
I am insultingly late but I always thought of mY dEAR as orca's theme