#Why can't FAS50 use 3.84T as an ADP partition?

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lost rose
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I am currently planning to configure a FAS50+DS224C (24x3.84T SAS SSD), but I cannot see 3.84T being used as ADP (root-data-data) in either Fusion or HWU, whereas it is possible with the FAS70. Has anyone done this manually?

gritty onyx
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The last info I remember is that booting from internal SSDs is supported.

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Not entirely sure though if using external SSDs with ADPv2 is supported.

lost rose
solar hawk
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There's no ADPv2 for the FAS50.
You also have to buy it with spinning drives, can't just do SSD.

jade hatch
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I bet you can @solar hawk , you just cannot order it that way:
Order FAS50 with one shelf of external SSD (not NVMe) and some number of spinners
When I get it, remove the SATA disks with only the SSDs. Init the system.
It is not advertised, but I would be surprised if it DID NOT do ADPv2 on the SSDs if they are the ONLY non-flashcache disks in the system

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Not supported, of course...it may work though 😉

solar hawk
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i'm always talking offically supported 🙂

jade hatch
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would certianly be a fun experiment

wide umbra
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We have a few F50 with DS460 and ADP... yet I think they may have been migrated from an old setup (FAS2700)... so it seems to work fine, and I wasn't aware that it wasn't supported...

solar hawk
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like a disk swap with a 2700 to a fas50 internally?

wide umbra
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well we had the old DS212C shelfs attached, together with the F50... then migrated the root aggregates and then the volumes to the D460...

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Seem to remember I created the partitions manually... 🙂

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Aggregate na12_rootaggr (online, raid_dp) (block checksums)
Plex /na12_rootaggr/plex0 (online, normal, active, pool0)
RAID group /na12_rootaggr/plex0/rg0 (normal, block checksums)

  RAID Disk    Device      HA  SHELF BAY CHAN Pool Type  RPM  Used (MB/blks)    Phys (MB/blks)
  ---------    ------      ------------- ---- ---- ---- ----- --------------    --------------
  dparity     3d.10.0P2    3d    10  0   SA:A   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  parity      3a.10.1P2    3a    10  1   SA:B   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3d.10.2P2    3d    10  2   SA:A   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3a.10.3P2    3a    10  3   SA:B   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3d.10.4P2    3d    10  4   SA:A   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3a.10.5P2    3a    10  5   SA:B   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3d.10.6P2    3d    10  6   SA:A   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3a.10.7P2    3a    10  7   SA:B   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3a.10.9P2    3a    10  9   SA:B   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3d.10.10P2    3d    10  10  SA:A   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
  data        3d.10.12P2    3d    10  12  SA:A   0  FSAS  7200 23928/49004544    23936/49020928
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....or was it a part of the root aggr migration where there was a procedure to create the partitions and then run the migration pointing to the P2 partitions?

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Pretty sure I had some help in here for that 😉

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..and the migration was something like FAS2700 headswap to F50 where we also converted the old FAS2700 controller shelf to a normal shelf with IOM12... (downtime), then attached the DS460, created the new root partitions and migrated to them... then setup new data aggregates on DS460, and volume move to them... finally disconnected old shelfs...

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So I'm 99,9% sure you can setup F50 with SAS SSDs and ADP only thing is that you cannot quote a price with F50 and only SSDs (because of marketing reasons)... you need to have some (not sure how many) SAS disks on the quote, and then you are able to quote SSDs and maybe even NVMe... But maybe there is something inside ONTAP which disables ADP when setting up a new system? Then I guess you will need to boot into maint-mode and partition the disks manually.... then assign them, and try an install... But it would surprise me if it doesn't do ADP per default....

jade hatch
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Oh, it will do ADP. The question is, with SAS SSD only attached, will it actually do ADPv2 like other FAS platforms do?

wide umbra