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warped parrot
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Hello is anyone else using Dynatrace to make API calls to Active IQ? We are wondering if there any resources to help us log relevant events to Dynatrace to setup both metrics, monitoring and alerts. Is this possible? Support states that only snmp traps are available but we see API support for Active IQ. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks everyone!

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We are looking for the elusive.. "Unified Manager API Developer’s Guide " which is specified on these pages but there is no link to it. Very helpful. 😉

maiden depot
warped parrot
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oh bless you oyoy! Thank you thank you!

maiden depot
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Actually Google sometimes give better results than searching on NOW. I just googled what you wrote, "Unified Manager API Developer’s Guide ".
You probably want a newer version, which you can find on docs.

warped parrot
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It's a great start that will help us experiment with our monitoring architects today in doing some test runs. I've requested an updated copy from our account manager along with a meeting with their API support team if possible. Thank you again. Yes Netapp's internal search is pretty worthless. Seems like it's siloed from the "good stuff"

undone belfry
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and, i see where the confusion may be coming from. it's talking about the developer's guide when that section of the doc is not called that anymore.

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i'll see if we can get that updated.

hidden creek
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hi all! looking for some advice on this pls.. we recently had one of our controllers fail a failover after one of our SFP + Disks (root aggregate) failed at the same time, not entirely convinced this was the cause but that's all we can see. we engaged our vendor and they said there was no controller failover, but there was an EMS event on the dashboard stating a controller failover attempt failed so clearly something happened. it took all data LIFs down on the controller, so naturally our VMware environment saw APD and HA fail overed the VMs.

any advice on how to troubleshoot this please as we are a bit stumped? we went engaged our reseller support and they are stating there was no failover attempt but there clearly was based on the EMS event

urban spear
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Are the controllers sending ASUP?

dim roost
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Entitlements or no?

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This seems like something a case would be needed.

urban spear
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Yeah that’s what I’m thinking, if we are getting the data then opening a case for this will be the quickest way to understand

hidden creek
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we had to go through Lenovo (dm7100f) 😦

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but Lenovo are saying there was no failover

weak spoke
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if it said controller takeover failed, that means that the node failed but failover didn't work

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"system node show" will show the controller uptime

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ask them to explain why one of them is only a day or so, then ask to speak to level 2 support would be my suggestion

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If you can get them to open a ticket, give me a ticket ID and dm me your contact details and I'll reach out to our contact there

sturdy orbit
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Is there any GUI issue with ONTAP 9.11.1 ?

I just upgrade FAS8200's firmware ONTAP 9.9.1P4 to 9.11.1.

GUI is doesnt work!

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Jul 29 13:35:56 snfilerN2 [filer-02:sp.firmware.incompatible:ALERT]: The SP firmware version 5.7 is not compatible with this version of Data ONTAP.

And after upgrade firmware SP error was shown

kindred pier
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9.11.1 does not include an SP firmware update for the FAS8200 system, so I would suggest manually updating the SP firmware to 5.11 Version.

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SP 5.11 is compatible with FAS8200 and ONTAP 9.11.1.

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Regarding your GUI issue, that def is not an expected result post an upgrade, so would suggest raising a support case.

sturdy orbit
kindred pier
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When you upgraded to 9.9.1P4 it should have also upgraded your SP firmware to 5.10, but for some reason that did not happen.

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As 5.10 SP FW is bundled with 9.9.1P4.

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You may want to also check the BIOS version is correct too.

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BIOS 11.11 is bundled with 9.9.1.P4.

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11.15 is bundled with 9.11.1, so curious if that is updated.

sturdy orbit
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how to upgrade manually use to cli?

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please let me know

maiden depot
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Sometimes have to restart the SP first to get it to update.
system service-processor something something

sturdy orbit
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regards

kindred pier
sturdy orbit
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thanks Mr. Ross.

obtuse fable
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Always-ALWAYS reboot all service processors before attempting any update. Does not matter if that is ontap or just a plain sp/bmc update. REBOOT the sp/bmc. I’ve actually seen systems get bricked during the update and if the sp were just rebooted before it would not happen. I think it’s even in the upgrade notes to do this now. Save the hassle and reboot the sp/bmc. This ends my public service announcement

sturdy orbit
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How can I take over the qtree and quota information when I use CIFS service in 7mode ontap? Because CIFS service is on, takeover is not running normally.

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And have one more question!

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Does the lack of GUI access after the upgrade of ONTAP 9.11.1 relate to SP firmware?

kindred pier
rain thorn
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good day everyone!

i am new to this and i hope i am on the right channel for this topic:

does anyone have a list, what is taken with a migration from old netapp to new netapp system? which configuration is inherited or transferred?

I do not know all migration variants (there are such as well-known as e.g. via SnapMirror. I have known Cluster Join, vol move and then unjoin). is there an article where you can read (indepth also fine), the variants, differences, advantages, disadvantages and which configurations/IPs/settings are taken over?

My question originates from following: at the moment at the customers netapp the configuration backup is being tried to set up but network does not work and wont allow the configuration backup to be uploaded outside their network. This old netapp is replaced in about 1 year and therefore we think to to consider, whether the Troubleshooting is worthwhile now or we simply wait until the new netapp comes and is migrated there (via cluster join, vol move, cluster join). instead going through the trouble to set it up twice.

quaint ether
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What's the old system (and version) and what's the new system?

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and SAN xor NAS?

quaint ether
maiden depot
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Last time i did a hardware replacement by headswap / aggregate relocation it took 12h and NetApp support locking out one of the techs they keep in the celler...
I learned some new cli spells I hope I never need again.
-the services was online the whole time, though! 👍

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(going from 80x0 to 400. The cluster ports changed)

rain thorn
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thank you for your answers and the doc to it, too!

it is used as a CIFS Filer commonly, so it should be NAS.
we went from old FAS8020 to FAS8300. It was i guess Ontap 9.3 or 9.5 (old filer) up to 9.8 (new filer) if i recall correctly.

quaint ether
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I'd go the vol move method. That's pretty straight forward and no downtime.

maiden depot
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Agree. But you'll need cluster switches and be able to add new controllers to cluster.

quaint ether
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Yeah. a lot of partners will have temp ones. (we did when i was at a partner)

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worth asking about.

weak spoke
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Or you can buy CN1610s for very very little money on eBay - like $200 each

robust fiber
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Can somebody explain what is the purpose of volume path ? It's different than junction_path.
If I have a volume called vol1 , the volume path is /vol/vol1 whether a junction path exists or not, and independently of the junction path value.
I've only seen it used in two places, with volume efficiency (sis) and when building a LUN path /vol/vol1/lun1 or /vol/vol1/qtree/lun1.

Also, is it always /vol or can this be configured?

dim roost
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I think it is when the old 7-mode underpinnings come through the cluster shell.

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Another command that uses it is reallocate. I don't think it is configured.

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Junction paths are for mounting volumes under other volumes. That's why you have a SVM root volume in NAS SVMs, then each volume under it is a junction path.

urban spear
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Yeah it’s the old 7-mode path structure, there’s some KBs about it

quaint ether
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Yeah it's 7mode carry over. There's an option in the 7mtt to remove /vol/ it while transitioning.

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don't think anyone has ever used it though 🙂

cinder imp
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we used it with 7mtt to transition over to clustered. made it simple to keep the same structure for those super ancient apps that the sme's never quite want to decom, so we always have to support it

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for all other migrations though, we removed it with 7mtt

true finch
cinder imp
meager vector
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any have the 9.11 changelog? im specifically looking for snapvault/mirror defaults and UI changes.

true finch
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<paging @whole nova>

whole nova
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Yo @true finch

meager vector
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hey chris, just looking to see if 9.11 is worth getting out of bed for.

true finch
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What would you be moving up from?

meager vector
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varies from 9.7. 9.8 & 9.10

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some are hard stopped at 9.7 until ontap is fixed so just been waiting unit ontap is closer to the way it was before upgrading the rest of the stuff

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9.8+ was such a kick in the face future generations will know how much i hate it.

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there were a few big things i was waiting on... like manual aggregate creation in the ui, snapvault default relationship stuff, more reasonable UI with more logical flow etc

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and everytime i search for ontap 9.11 release notes i get a bunch of cloud volumes related crap that i dont care about

true finch
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Chris is out for the night and said he would stop by in the morning to rap with ya. He’s one of our ONTAP PMs that can help you break that down. Or some of the other field guys here. For me, seeing the auto update and other stuff in SysMgr are long overdue.

urban spear
meager vector
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❤️

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on a side note anyone know when netapp support site will allow SMS or external MFA authenticator apps?

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i think i asked that before, i believe yall said it could be integrated with adfs?

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i should probably dot hat if thats teh case

true finch
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@brazen jetty would likely know one way or the other

brazen jetty
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Anything "external" will probably not happen unless MS implements it

meager vector
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perfect thanks the netapp federation request form is simple enough 😄

clear flame
# meager vector varies from 9.7. 9.8 & 9.10

We're already at 9.9.1 and going to 9.10.1. 9.9.1 wasn't too bad - some nasty bugs fixed in the latest P releases. 9.11 is too bleeding edge for me. My workload is almost 100% NFS and a LOT of it (EDA).

meager vector
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our workload is 99% NFS 😄 a ton of snapvault stuff going on and very few production CIFS shares my only real compliants with 9.8+ is the UI we have 9 clusters many of which are silo'd so we don't really externally manage them

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so system manager and cli for them

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but a lot of that has already been discussed here at length and im ready for healing to begin

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so looking towards the future to see if netapp actually is listening.

clear flame
meager vector
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that reminds me my ocum is super old. need to update lol

whole nova
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@meager vector since 9.8, I have been working to get early versions of ONTAP and specifically System Manager into the hands of users for their feedback. With 9.10.1, we opened up a virtual EAP (Early Access Program) to all partners and customers. You login to https://handsonlabs.netapp.com and spin up the Early Access ONTAP and ONTAP System Manager 9.11.1 v1.1. Much of what you are looking for is going to be in 9.11.1. Look for the next version of ONTAP to be in handsonlabs in about a month or so. Its not guaranteed but that's the goal. For the future versions @brazen jetty can add you to the EAP Community for each release and you can then provide direct feedback to product management through that community. Of course you sign a virtual NDA when you join the EAP program so we ask that you don't share publicly the contents of a particular EAP. Hope this helps. If you want specifics, we can chat.

dim roost
unique sphinx
blissful musk
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Hi , I have an ontap 8.2 system which is all CLI, I am not very confident if i can manage it via CLI, is there any way to activate the Web management , i did try the httpd.enable on , but then it started giving error for indexing not enabled

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Its an Old system which was configured to give our NFS3 share , i did map the share to a windows server to try to delete a few files to clean up but it says i do not have the permission to do it.

inner oar
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Hi @blissful musk, This is neto from Brazil. How are you? If I remember of the top of my head, you need to install OnCommand System Manager (Windows or Linux) to manage it.

blissful musk
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Nice, i will try this link .

inner oar
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please let me know how it goes.

blissful musk
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everytime i searched for it the result came back negative

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wont allow me to download without login

inner oar
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"Starting with Data ONTAP 8.3, OnCommand System Manager is a bundled component of Data ONTAP,"

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as you are in 8.2, please try to install it and let us know.

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Thanks for asking and joining NetApp Discord 🙂

blissful musk
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Hit a Support wall... wont let me download unless i login, 😢
registered as a Guest... but something tells me that wont be enough to download that software as the account is still pending

true finch
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Support entitlements are required to download software, yes.

blissful musk
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So basically Pay for support to be able to Download the software which is necessary for management of a legacy system.

inner oar
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what is the CLI command you are looking for?

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In other words, what would you like to do using GUI?

plush storm
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check your current exports with the cmd: exportfs

dim roost
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To map to Windows, you need to use CIFS not NFS. Windows has a terrible NFS stack.

blissful musk
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Does the exporttfs also give out the permissions of the NFS?

inner oar
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qtree show

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do you see Unix or NTFS?

blissful musk
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Windows unfortunately

inner oar
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if this is UNIX, you are ok to delete the files (based on your export policy)

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is this a 7-mode? qtree status

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Thanks @plush storm for the message. I missed it 🙂

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qtree status

blissful musk
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Honetly not sure... The only exposure i ever had to the Ontap system is from the ontap 9.7 web ui

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thats to just expand the volume etc

inner oar
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do you want to delete files (created via unix) in a cifs share (mapped to a VEAM windows server). is that correct?

blissful musk
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Veeam wont work unless i delete some stuff from the 8.2 and the 8.2 wont let me delete some of the older files when i map it from a windows client

true finch
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If there were ever a place to learn your way around the CLI, this group of rockstars here will help!

blissful musk
inner oar
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ok

blissful musk
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the veeam is hosted on a windows server

inner oar
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ok

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please type qtree status on CLI

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tell me if the qtree or volume that is "shared" is UNIX or NTFS

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superman::> qtree status
Vserver Volume Tree Style Oplocks Status

db cl_repo_rman_repo_20190613112131 "" unix enable normal
db db_root "" unix enable normal
db foo "" unix enable normal
db goofy_orabin_40 "" unix enable normal
db goofy_oragrid_53 "" unix enable normal
db mickey_orabin_10 "" unix enable normal
db minnie_orabin_20 "" unix enable normal
db netofrombrazil "" unix enable normal

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something like this

blissful musk
inner oar
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ok

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if this is UNIX, probably you need name mapping to delete the files .... like root == administrator.

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do you want to access this using UNIX as well or ONLY windows?

blissful musk
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vol_veeam_01 unix enabled normal <<< its this volume that i wanna go into and delete some older files

inner oar
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got it

blissful musk
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only have windows with me

inner oar
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ok

blissful musk
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but i do have linux

dim roost
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Is CIFS set up?

inner oar
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if you go to windows box (cifs share) and try to create a folder, does it work or not?

dim roost
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I think the command is cifs status

blissful musk
inner oar
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under z:\

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you see the files

blissful musk
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i can open the file , download etc

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but cannot delete

inner oar
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can you create a new folder called paul?

blissful musk
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negative

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no write permission

plush storm
inner oar
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so, you don't have permissions

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there are 2 options:

plush storm
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easiest would be to try it via NFS on your linux machine

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but I let neto handle this 😛

inner oar
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  1. change the security to NTFS which will probably give everyone full control
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or

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  1. do what @OG1 said very well... Map using NFS (linux) and delete.
blissful musk
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linux is good too i have a mint linux VM for just testing etc

inner oar
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go for it

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map using linux and delete

blissful musk
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cool let me try that

inner oar
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but the question comes back

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do you need the windows server to "write" to that share?

blissful musk
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no

inner oar
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ok

blissful musk
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just the veeam backup is going to do all the writing

inner oar
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go to #2 from OG1 suggestion.

blissful musk
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i just need to make 1TB space for the backups to kick start and clean themselves up

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Thanks for the help, let me try it

inner oar
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NetApp - we ❤️ this company

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Please let us know how it goes

blissful musk
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Many thanks, I need to re-setup the VM

blissful musk
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HI a bit of update I managed to mount the volume in Linux "sudo mount 192.168.72.136:/mnt/sharedfolder /mnt/client_sharedfolder"
But it still doesnt have write permission, unable to delete anything

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Error you require Permission from S-1-1-0 <<< error on windows,,,, on linux the Delete command is basically blanked out

blissful musk
# inner oar Please let us know how it goes

Hi, I managed to mount the volume in Linux "sudo mount 192.168.72.136:/mnt/sharedfolder /mnt/client_sharedfolder"
But it still doesnt have write permission, unable to delete anything
Error you require Permission from S-1-1-0 <<< error on windows,,,, on linux the Delete command is basically blanked out

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Is there any command for me to be able to check the vol_veeam Voume permissions?

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once in a while i'd see the error HTTP XML Authentication failed from 192.168.72.136

inner oar
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Are you root on your VM?

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Check the export policy on NetApp to see if there is root permission to delete the files

blissful musk
inner oar
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Check the export policy on NetApp

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Maybe the root access is not writable (e.g., mnt)

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Sorry would be easier to see it 🙂

blissful musk
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Can you give me a CLI command please i could paste the data here

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not sure how i can get vol vol_xyz infor from the cli

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vserver export-policy check-access < gave an error vserver not found

quaint ether
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tab complete is your friend with the (cdot) CLI - example -

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`WOPR::> vserver export-policy check-access -vserver NFS -volume NFSData02 -client-ip 192.168.1.44 -authentication-method none -protocol nfs3 -access-type read-write
Policy Policy Rule
Path Policy Owner Owner Type Index Access

/ default NFS_root volume 1 read
/NFSData02 default NFSData02 volume 1 read-write
2 entries were displayed.

WOPR::>`

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For this command though you will need to know the vserver name, volume name and IP

inner oar
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It is 7 mode I guess

quaint ether
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ah oh. yeah missed that. vserver not found, vs vserver is a required field.

inner oar
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Already provided some examples 🙂

blissful musk
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all thanks to @inner oar Finally managed to get it to work and yes he did a lot of hand holding

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Again many thanks

inner oar
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NetApp - we love this company.

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@brazen jetty @true finch - we used shared screen - amazing - did everything using my phone. It was great

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Glad to help my friend, @blissful musk

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Stay safe

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Love you guys

urban spear
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Nice, it’s great that you’ve got all the options you need to get things solved

brazen jetty
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It’s great to see this kind of interaction 🙂

blissful musk
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Honestly i was going nuts for past 2 days because of it...

true finch
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Fantastic! The Meeting Rooms down below are there for anyone to use anytime! You can do voice, turn on cameras and share screens!

gusty ocean
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Hi everyone, hope you are doing well. Our company has storagegrid 11.6 and we - as developers - have started using it recently, together with k8s and trident (both are great btw:).

Looking at https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/storagegrid-116/ and not being able to find an answer to my question, I would like to ask here: AWS has a concept/feature (instance profile?) where I can create a IAM role, assigned it for example to the EC2 instance, and then when my java application that runs on that EC2 instance tries to get data from S3, it first fetches S3 secrets at runtime and uses them to execute those GET/PUT/DELETE requests it wants. This has a big advantange of not needing to store any S3 secrets beforehand somewhere in the EC2 or e.g. kubernetes configmaps/secrets.

As I am not perfectly familiar with AWS (rather onprem environment), I was able to find this https://docs.databricks.com/administration-guide/cloud-configurations/aws/instance-profiles.html (step 1-3) which describes how to go about it. So my question is simple: Does storagegrid support that kind of feature, where I could avoid storing S3 secrets in some file?

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pulsar yacht
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Is there a way to show data reduction on individual volumes representing in a X:1 fashion?

storm night
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@gusty ocean SG provides only S3 service. While it behaves very much like AWS S3, it's IAM setup cannot be compared to how AWS does it. It supports Bucket Policies and Group Policies though. Both behave similar to how AWS implements them and together, you can have pretty granular control over authorization.

ripe igloo
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Hi. Does anyone have SnapCenter experience? I’m trying to figure out how to create a publicly viewable report that mirrors the Resources/MSSQL databases listing tab in SC and sorted by last backup time. It seems possible with the powershell commandlets, but looks like it will take a lot of commands and massaging of output to achieve anything reasonably similar.

humble stratus
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@ripe igloo I have talked to our support team that has some knowledge about SnapCenter reports. Though helping create reports is out of scope for support they do say that you would need to run a series of SC cmdlets to collect data and then build out a hierarchically organized custom PowerShell object to contain your DBs. Something like SQL instance/AG > Node > DB > last backup, or whatever data you want. So it appears your expectations are correct.

meager vector
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im having a brain fart, i want to inilizize some snapvault relationships but do so on the protection policy schedule (11pm) was there a way to do that.

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i almost always just initialize immediately but i cant in this case

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nevermind i got it lol

true finch
bronze nova
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is there a TR for setting up NVME over TCP for VMware.. we have A400's running ONTAP 9.10.1P6 and ESXi 7.0 Update 3f

quaint ether
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?

oblique sail
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Hello guys how are you? quick question, someone knows how to get an IP from an eseries? i have access to the console, but there is no command to get that information

plush storm
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What model of E-Series do you have?

oblique sail
plush storm
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Try DHCP (connect with mgmt port 1, not 2), else use the provided IP mentioned in the guide

oblique sail
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yes we tried that, but it seems the customer already put an IP and now he dont remember

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though console is possible to know that IP?

plush storm
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If I remember correctly the console connection is really only for NetApp service

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you should be able to change the IP there but you need to find the login credentials... Google should help

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But I'm not entirely sure what the supported way would be to factory reset this system (or only rest the IP back to DHCP again)
At least without a support case...

oblique sail
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ok thanks i understand

kindred pier
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Is this system sending ASUPs back to NetApp? If so you might be able to view that info from ActiveIQ Digital Advisor or at least customer can. If you're viewing the specific ESeries system in AIQ Digital Advisor you can click on the Auto Support menu option, then loo kat the "STORAGE-ARRAY-PROFILE" section, which has ip address information for the ports. System would need to have active entitlement though access this info on AIQ Digital Advisor (aiq.netapp.com).

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Otherwise support can look at the same ASUP info and share the details (if the system has entitlement).

wind finch
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The SANtricity Storage Manager Client actually will scan networks you tell it to in order to discover e-series... might be the easiest method

faint viper
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is it possible to update BIOS firmware if I only have access to the service processor?

true finch
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you'll need to be able to get to a LOADER prompt in order to run the update_flash command

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so, yes and no?

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you don't need to be in ONTAP, but you can't do that from the SP that I'm aware of

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If I'm wrong there, I hope someone can teach us both a new trick!

plush storm
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To update the BIOS, ONTAP can't run (just like you can't update the BIOS of your laptop if your Windows is still booted).
Since ONTAP is not running any management LIFs from ONTAP are not available.
So to access the LOADER prompt you can either connect via console or you access the SP/BMC of the relevant node via SSH (this IP stays online since it's OOB management) and type "system console". This will basically "jump to console" and you will see the same as with your connected console cable (which is the LOADER if ONTAP is not running).

true finch
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console! I forgot about that!

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There ya go @faint viper!

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SSH to SP
system console
LOADER-A> update_flash

faint viper
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already tried that earlier. It shows updating from 13.12 to 13.12, but I am trying to update to 13.13

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can I transfer files over the SP?

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like I said... I have no connectivity to any other ports

quaint ether
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what model system ?

faint viper
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AFF A800 - Ontap 9.10.1

quaint ether
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so no mgmt access what so ever? just SP login?

faint viper
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I can 'system console' from the SP

quaint ether
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so you can get here:

` ssh admin@192.168.1.223
admin@192.168.1.223's password:
SP WOPR-01> system console
Type Ctrl-D to exit.
SP-login: admin
Password:

  • This is an SP console session. Output from the *
  • serial console is also mirrored on this session. *

WOPR::>`

faint viper
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yes

quaint ether
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is the A800 connected to a network that has a http or ftp server?

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from there you can run system firmware download -package URL

faint viper
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but will that communicate through the SP?

quaint ether
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is that the only port that is physically connected?

faint viper
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yes

quaint ether
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ah ok

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Support will need to assit with that KB, There is also a version via USB, support case is also needed.

faint viper
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yeah, I was looking into that by running 'system firmware download -package '

quaint ether
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That would work, if you could plug something in to e0m

faint viper
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URL schemes include FTP, FTPS, TFTP, HTTP, HTTPS, GOPHER, SMTP, SMTPS, MAILTO, NEWS, NNTP, TELNET, WAIS, FILE, PROSPERO.

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I'll contact tech support. Thank you

quaint ether
faint viper
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I have that bookmarked already... was hoping to do this before next week. I won't have anyone to assist me on site until then.

quaint ether
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alright, scratch the KB I sent ya. I went looking at the details and it's saying to point scp to the node mgmt ip, not the BMC.
sorry about that.

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Though you could open a case saying I need to do this but via the BMC.

faint viper
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ah ok

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wonder if SP only supports ssh

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I was wondering if there is a way to pull the firmware from the other node

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node A has what I want

quaint ether
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There is a way to cross mount the mroot, but also requires support.

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I checked the loader method doc btw. it also uses e0m

faint viper
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darn... seems I am stuck waiting for someone to assist on site. I appreciate all the info though, thank you!

quaint ether
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no prob!

plush storm
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oh, now I'm getting it... the A800 has that dedicated BMC port

pulsar yacht
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Error: command failed: Modification not permitted. Changing the volume language is not supported for a SnapMirror source volume.

I need to change a volume from C.UTF8 to utf8mb4.

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We just setup SVMDR so its still not in a properly initialized state

quaint ether
pulsar yacht
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Procedure is not working

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Identity preserve is enabled not sure if that matters

quaint ether
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I'm not sure. I checked the docs and it doesn't show language in the SVMDR matrix of what's what.
could be worth a support case at this point. the notes on that KB say contact Support.

gusty ocean
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activeiq mailed me about a pending ontap update, but now that i login i see nothing. currently running 9.11.1. is something coming?

brazen jetty
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ONTAP 9.9.1P11 released yesterday, so that shouldn't be it. I don't see any "new" 9.11.1 flavors on NSS either.

gusty ocean
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right. thanks!

true finch
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@whole nova might know what's up

late pivot
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I have a general question regarding configuring audit logs on SVMs. One of the requirements is that the audit logs have a destination folder to write the logs to, how do I go about creating an audit log folder? I have tried to create a folder off of the root called audit_logs and then when I issue the vserver audit create command i pipe that to the -destination option but i keep getting the same response back when I issue the command

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Error: command failed: The specified path "/audit_logs/" does not exist in the namespace belonging to Vserver

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not sure if there is a better channel to post that on, if so let me know

cosmic scroll
late pivot
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nvm i figured it out via the following NetApp community post

brazen jetty
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Just saw this come through

ONTAP 9.10.1P7 has been published on the NetApp Support Site

deep widget
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Hi all, short question about AIQUM. Are there any plans to change the upgrade process? I'm thinking like you can upgrade a cluster over the UI. Since we have an environment with around 12 instances the way over the vCenter is a bit slow.

true finch
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what version of ONTAP are you on currently?

meager vector
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i got a problem i cant seem to track down, i have a volume with the same snapshot policies as the rest on this particular cluster but its only doing a single daily the rest of them are fine. using a custom snapshot policy anything to look at offhand?

meager vector
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nevermind, i manually resassigned the policy from the cli and it started working who knows what that was about

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

bronze nova
wind finch
sullen zephyr
thorny musk
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Hey peep, was wondering if anybody here had a deck on the new ontap ransomware feature. I would like to prepare a presentation on the same.

kindred pier
thorny musk
cosmic scroll
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quick question. Is anyone in here favoring "system node image update" over "cluster image update" to upgrade on ONTAP 9.7 or later releases and if you use "system node image update" why do you do so and what would convince you to use "cluster image update"?

outer quail
meager vector
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seems like any potential use case for node could instead be bundled into a switch for the cluster image command so it forces the user to think about if they need to use node v0v

undone belfry
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use cases are going to be edge cases i think. i have to use node image in my lab vsims, because there is no storage ha.

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allowing non HA upgrades (diag option maybe) would work for me.

dawnr-cl::> cluster image update -version 9.11.1 -pause-after none -ignore-validation-warning true -nodes dawnr-cl-01,dawnr-cl-02

Error: command failed: The list of nodes should contain HA pairs only

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i've seen some customers using vsims as well, i'm not sure how many are single node clusters, or 2 non-ha nodes like mine

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if there's a way to do this with cluster image, i'm all ears. i just fell back on what i knew worked from long ago.

dim roost
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Same. Heck I still do "sis status -l" on CDOT.

quaint ether
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and early on (pre 8.3 or 9.0 at least) i don't think the cluster image update was a thing.

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I switched to cluster image update about 9.3 or 5? I think. before that was manual.

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manual updates of multi node 8.1 to 8.2 to 8.3 cdot was fun.

plush storm
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cluster image update with Single-Node Cluster should work... it will just be disruptive and reboot the node

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I think it also works with 2-Node MCC-FC

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we have switched to using cluster image update since some years ago and in I would say 99% it works perfectly

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the only thing I'm still hesitant to use are these multi-hop updates where you give it both images, validate the lower version and let it update to the higher one

rapid tartan
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Anyone has experience with modifying NFS -tcp-max-xfer-size ? I'm following Oracle databases on ONTAP document and it recommends increasing it to 262144 which makes sense. I was thinking that increasing the value shouldn't impact or make any difference for existing connections but when I try to do it I get the following warning Warning: Setting "-tcp-max-xfer-size" to a value greater than the configured TCP transfer size could affect the performance for existing connections. Contact technical support for guidance. Does anyone know if this could really impact existing connections ( or the ones that will still have the mount options set to lower than limit ) ? The contact technical support part makes it seems like it is not something I want to change.

true finch
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@humble stratus is who you’re looking for 🙂

obtuse fable
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I had a customer set it to 1G! I convinced them to make a new svm and deploy it there in case anything wonky happens. Certain applications love the larger xfer-size

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A400 was slower than a vm serving nfs using 1g xfersize until they flipped the option

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And if you read the message it could affect existing connections. So the way I read that is set the option and be sure to unmount/Mount or reboot every connected client

wind finch
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probably best to take a look at nfsstat and see if the connections are actually pushing big writes before one goes crazy on max-xfer-size

pearl nacelle
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are there any known problems with config advisor and Metrocluster-IP configurations? I'm able to run the job and i get results for all nodes and switches, Visualization also works however in the Results page I only get "Data is not available" and in the Rules section "Rules are not available for this job"

cosmic scroll
humble stratus
# rapid tartan Anyone has experience with modifying NFS `-tcp-max-xfer-size ` ? I'm following `...

It's a max value, so if the current clients aren't requesting the max then nothing will change. The value is generally only read at mount time, so existing clients won't be affected until they are remounted. The concern revolves around impacting the network by increasing the amount of data requested. This could cause bottlenecks where none existed before. You are looking to increase the value to 256k. We haven't seen any problems at that point that I'm aware of.
As always, (If you can.) be smart and only make one change at a time so you know which change has been the impactful one.

rapid tartan
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Thanks Scott!

brazen jetty
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📢 ONTAP 9.11.1P1 has been published to the NetApp Support Site

bronze nova
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Strange question.. does anyone know if you can find out the hostname or ip of your AIQUM server from the ONTAP cluster ?

bronze nova
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ahh thats it application-record show

kindred pier
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Yup you got it. 👌

plush storm
# bronze nova ahh thats it application-record show

every time a customer says "nah, we don't use any other NetApp software, there is nothing to check for interoperability" I do "application-record show" and tadaaa there is stuff connected...
"oh I didnt know this VM is still running" 🙃

meager vector
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so looks like im still having some odd behavior for a local snapshot policy on a single volume.

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i have a snapshot policy assigned to an SVM. there are 4 volumes 3 of them are working with the custom snapshot policy just fine

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one of them seems to be kinda using..both the custom policy and the default policy

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(custom policy has every 2 hour)

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looking at the volume details it shows the correct policy is assigned

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i had re-assigned it manually last week and thought it fixed it because the 2hour started to appear

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but its still running 2 daily snapshots from the default policy instead of 14 from the custom policy

obtuse fable
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Verify: snapshot show -fields create

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They may be leftover snapshots from the original policy. You may need to delete them manually

meager vector
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it continues to create dailies (only 2 of them from the default policy) it does not create any more than the 2 and deletes any older than the latest two (new policy has 14 dailies)

kindred pier
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Might need a support case to get to the underlying cause on that one. Might be something simple or not.

kindred pier
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I'm assuming the CIFS Audit logging that ONTAP does is not accessible via API or Powershell?

meager vector
wise lantern
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Hello, I have a problem with my FAS2520, on the ontap 8.3, I deleted all the aggr (not the root ones), but I can't delete the Storage Pool, it always says one or more aggr are using it. Can someone assist me on this?

quaint ether
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what's the output of the following - set d; debug vreport show

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and "node run -node * aggr status" as well.

keen cape
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I migrated AIQUM from one host to another, using backup/restore. The restore configured SSL/HTTPS on the new system. Now I need to remove the certificates. My problem is that the GUI will not let me re-generate the certificates. My guess is because the hostname is not the same as what is configured. My question is: How do I regenerate the certificates for my new host?

meager vector
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your call is important to us on hold for 43 minutes and counting

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lol of course they answer as soon as i say that

brazen jetty
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I like to think someone in support saw your message and rushed to start their shift early for you 🙃

quaint ether
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Probably Paul. /s 😄

meager vector
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lol

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so there seems to be a number of weird issues im having with this particular system. (2750 running 9.9) the alreayd mentiond snapshot policy issue ona single volume, now im noticing disappearing efficiency policies. (they become unassigned) the SIS changelog filling up and other weirdness.

plush storm
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Is there some documentation how much throughput is needed for the MCC-IP peering?

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so for the CRS stuff

quaint ether
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probably in the Arch TR

plush storm
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I'm sizing a ASA A400 MCC-IP with only 32Gb FC frontend

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customer only really needs FC and no ETH, but I need some ETH for peering

quaint ether
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You're a partner correct?

plush storm
plush storm
quaint ether
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in that TR. page 15. there is a link to the ISL sizing calculator

plush storm
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will check the SE pres now 😛

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but the ISL is only for mirroring the data via iWarp and SyncMirror

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peering goes to the customer ETH network

quaint ether
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unless youre snapmirroring from one side to the other, I don't think it would matter, but let me dig

plush storm
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I know it's not too bad if the cluster peering is down since the replication will catch up, but still I can't find any documented requirements of the MCC peering

plush storm
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it will only be CRS replication on these intercluster-LIFs... I'm really just trying to find out if maybe 1GbE would be enough... we could host all management LIFs there plus the intercluster-LIFs

quaint ether
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let me ask the tme

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except it's almost midnight for her.

plush storm
plush storm
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it's my first ASA MCC-IP with FC-only

quaint ether
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ASA MCC-IP is probably one of the longest acronyms when spelled out in the netapp eco system.

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That also sounds fun.

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All Storage Area Network All Flash Fabric Attached Storage Metro Cluster Cluster - Internet Protocol

undone belfry
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I migrated AIQUM from one host to

bronze nova
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does anyone have a high level list of tasks that wipeconfig does ? I need to send an email to a client about what it does..

quaint ether
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You mean outside of a factory reset of the root vols/system of the cluster, wipe any existing config and zero all the drives?

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Note: It won't touch the SP/BMC

bronze nova
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yeah i think thats high level enough..

modern summit
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Anyone here work with the Powershell tools at all I'm trying to reclaim space on a LUN and having a bear of a time.

Is this a bug in the software? No matter how I try to present the Cluster Shared Volume (CSV) to the powershell command, it kicks back this error. The command works fine if given a physical drive letter, but all our LUNS are mounted as CSVs

dim roost
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That may be a limitation of the Powershell toolkit, so you may have to try to manually write zeros.

modern summit
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how's that done?

keen cape
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Happy Friday. Does anyone have any experience sending Active IQ Unified Manager (AIQUM) alerts to xMatters using a script?

plush storm
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Question regarding the ONTAP Mediator for MCC-IP: What's the stance regarding VMware Tools? Should we install it or not? The Mediator is currently running on CentOS.

weak spoke
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From our point of view we will support either

plush storm
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ok, thanks alot!

plush storm
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https://www.netapp.tv/details/29476
Hey @true finch, nice introduction about the improvements and advantages of vVols and also the VMware commitment.
But everything still depends on the VASA provider where I'm really missing some announcements regarding a more resilient and scaled-out solution by NetApp... Unfortunately total silence since the last year sneak peak. The VASA provider is still the single point of failure. All these possible advantages of vVols I can't really realize when I can't convince customers to switch from the easy clean NFS world they know and love, to a possibly "easier" vVol world when there is this is one single component which sits in the middle and which customers learn to fear. 😕

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Make-VASA-Great-Again ✊

eternal cypress
meager vector
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i have a new customer request, they want a volume to have daily snapshots for the duration of a project (wihthout any idea on the time limit) and they want to keep every snapshot. im making some assumptions that it will be less than a year, but i guess i havent thought about it before, is there a better way than just making a snapshot policy for the volume with like a billion daily snapshots?

dim roost
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Eww.

meager vector
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yes

dim roost
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IIRC there's still the 255 per vol limit.

meager vector
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yah 255 = billion

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lol

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more than 30 i cringe tbh

dim roost
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Can they roll up snapshots, or do they want each day for say a year (or whatever)?

meager vector
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the request is specifically dailies, im trying to push them towards a better way but its a bank lots of fed reqs and stuff

dim roost
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Oh bank? Forget it.

meager vector
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lol

dim roost
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I don't remember if you can clone a volume with multiple snapshots.

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That's the only way I see getting around the 255 limit.

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The other way is maybe have a SnapMirror destination (even on the same cluster or data center) then if they hit 255 just create a new SM dest vol.

meager vector
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yah I was thinking as its a VM just moving the VM to a new volume but i like the destination volume idea better

dim roost
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And maybe to make it more flexible, the VM itself (c drive or / VMDK) maybe can be separate from the data?

undone belfry
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hmm, a little late to this, but the current snapshot limit is 1023 snapshots. it was upped in 9.4. unless they're running something super old, that should give a bit more room.

dim roost
plush storm
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Question regarding Broadcom Cluster-Switches and MCC-IP: With an AFF A250 MCC-IP the Broadcom switch also carries the local intra-cluster traffic.
In the Broadcom config docs it says to enable the "cluster switch log collection feature" (https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap-systems-switches/switch-bes-53248/configure-log-collection.html), whereas in the MCC-IP docs it doesn't mention this (https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap-metrocluster/install-ip/task_switch_config_broadcom.htm). You should only use the RCF file and that's basically it.
So my question is: Is it necessary to enable the "cluster switch log collection feature" for Broadcom switches in MCC-IP configs?

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Any MCC TMEs around? 👀

dim roost
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AK may be on vacation still.

gloomy saddle
dim roost
gloomy saddle
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memory is a wonderful thing!

quaint ether
celest creek
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Hey, can anyone provide me with some support, regarding the AIQ api?

stuck moth
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how difficult is it to update the OnTap Version of a fileserver from 9.3P to the latest? is it recommended to do it by a pricey Netapp technician?

true finch
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Depends on the rig in question and it’s level of ONTAP support… what platform? Sometimes you have to multi-hop but I think as long as you’re on ONTAP 9 or above you can make the jump

dim roost
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Honestly most platforms you just generate the upgrade advisor, plop the ONTAP image on, and run through it.

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You just have to go to 9.5Platest, then 9.7Platest, etc.

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The biggest consideration is IMT.

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(Generally if you don't do SAN IMT checks are much easier, but it's good to double check)

quaint ether
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9.5 -> 9.7 -> 9.9.1 -> 9.10.1 or 9.11.1.
but yeah. all depends. If it's just NAS, it's usually a pretty straight forward upgrade. if there's SAN, there's some interoperability to check.

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but the upgrade itself is automated. pre and post checks have some manual parts, but spelled out in the upgrade advistor

kindred pier
bronze nova
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is there any information why ONTAP wants me to rekey all its drives ?

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ive never seen this before..its just a AFF250 with 24x8TB NVME drives

quaint ether
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are they SEDs?

stuck moth
kindred pier
# stuck moth Not just a NAS its the Backbone Fileserver of our IT structure. FAS2650 24bay

Hi Xeur, as you are using your NetApp storage as a NAS solution, then you are likely using CIFS or NFS as the protocol that connects your hosts with the the storage. Given this fact, you likely can execute a non-disruptive upgrade. If your system is reporting ASUP (AutoSupport) back to NetApp, then you can login to https://activeiq.netapp.com and generate an Upgrade Advisor Plan which will walk you through the pre-checks, upgrade steps and post-checks.

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If you want support to explain the upgrade process, then of course you are more than welcome to contact our support team (assuming you have active entitlement, which you would need to upgrade).

stuck moth
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lecker tyvm... btw its awesome you guys answere that random questions..

kindred pier
bronze nova
jaunty delta
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Is anyone else having issues with the upgrade from SnapCenter 4.6 to SnapCenter 4.7? Upgrading the SnapCenter server worked. When I try to upgrade hosts/clients, I get the ". Plugins are not available on the host to upgrade" error.

summer swallow
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hello everyone. We are using an old FAS2220 Server with Netapp release 8.1.4 7-Mode. A coworker tried to create a junction with mklink but I learned that this does not work on a CIFS share. In this documentation I could find some information about symbolic links: https://library.netapp.com/ecmdocs/ECMP1401220/html/index.html. I found information about managing symlinks but no actual commands to create a symlink. I'd be thankful for any hints in the right direction 🙂

lone crane
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I'm trying to setup my vLab using simulator 9.11.1 on VMWk Pro 16x; simulator crashes on startup the first time and reboots; It does the same thing if it isn't shut down cleanly prior to a start, but it has a habit of crashing and burning on its own, so that can't be helped. I've got the 2+1 setup with 32GB RAM and 4vCPU's on each instance. Has anyone experienced this?

humble stratus
gusty ocean
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hello everyone, is this the right place for discussing about netapp trident ?

brazen jetty
tame marten
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Hi all, I am having an issue where I cannot access my SMB/CIF share, I can access the top folder (FlexVol) but not the folder after that. I get the message: "Windows cannot access \servername\path". Any help is appreciated 🙂

kindred pier
# tame marten Hi all, I am having an issue where I cannot access my SMB/CIF share, I can acces...

If you're looking for urgent help, def recommend getting a support case open. We have a Resolution Guide, which is KB Article that references the most common known issues when troubleshooting CIFS - https://kb.netapp.com/Advice_and_Troubleshooting/Data_Storage_Software/ONTAP_OS/CIFS_access_troubleshooting_-_Resolution_Guide

Based on your brief summary it's hard to know for sure where to start looking but double checking permissions might be a good place and checking your cluster (via System Manager) for any EMS events/errors to se if anything is standing out.

NetApp Knowledge Base
CIFS access troubleshooting - Resolution Guide
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Also.. TIME. So often customers hit CIFS issues because the Active Directory time has skewed beyond 5 mins of the ONTAP cluster.

tame marten
kindred pier
tame marten
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Any idea how to type this ?| [ -dateandtime <[[[[[cc]yy]mm]dd]hhmm[.ss]]> ]

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cluster date modify -timezone GMT -dateandtime [2022]09]20]0307]]
?

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its fine I figured it out

kindred pier
tame marten
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althought it hasnt fixed my issue 😦 I dont understand it was working this afternoon, but now I cant access the folder

kindred pier
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Any change in results if you access share using IP address instead of FDQN?

tame marten
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Ive just tried event log show -messagename secd.*

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I get the error: secd.kerberos.tktexpired: Kerberos client ticket has expired for vserver (Data)

kindred pier
tame marten
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yes I was just reading that, does things take time in order to resolve themselves after the time update?

kindred pier
tame marten
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both FQDN and IP dont work btw

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FDQN*

kindred pier
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Otherwise yeah might need a support case to figure it out. Might be the time skew is just 1 piece of the puzzle here.

tame marten
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does it have to be identical to the seconds?

kindred pier
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Shouldn't do from my understanding.

tame marten
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I will just try a reboot of my DC as Ive noticed it had done some updates

kindred pier
tame marten
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9.8 I believe

weak spoke
bronze nova
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Is there a quick way to show you how much of a volume has been tiered off on a single volume to a object store from command line ? i see the command (volume object-store tiering show) but it does not show how much has been pushed off per volume

kindred pier
bronze nova
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actually another bar that needs to added also is Storage Efficiencies.. Show me how much is de-duped,compressed etc..

kindred pier
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Hey Greg, both observations are good feedback and there are product mgmt folks on this Discord whom will see that feedback.

On your last point, we do show efficiencies at aggregate level as the dedup/compression activities operate at that level.

That being said, I do know our ActiveIQ Unified Manager tool does have some additional capabilities that help monitor the capacity consumption for FabricPools. But agree, something more visible in System Manager would be worth while. Similar, with our new Cloud Manager portal there is some capability built into that for managing ONTAP based systems, setting up tiering and monitoring the usage.

tame marten
kindred pier
tame marten
cosmic prairie
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Hey guys, we gonna move from 9.7 and 9.8 to 9.10.1 - what are your observations on changes? Regarding gui we stopped at 9.7 because lots of admins was dissapointed by it after upgrade to 9.8. I see that many functionalities are back in 9.10.1 but what are your opinion? Ive generated upgrade advisor plans and they are ok - but are there any major considerations when upgrading from 9.7 and 9.8 to 9.10.1? Upgrade advisor just popped out that upgrade to 9.11 is not recommended and thats it

dim roost
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9.11 will be back in the running soon, but the aggr creation disk screen is enough IMO to wait for 9.11 to be stable.

cosmic prairie
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But 9.10.1 seems very stable and good

plush storm
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wait for P8

cosmic prairie
quaint ether
plush storm
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too many... I can get you the list tomorrow

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Check the fixes in 9.11.1P2 which just got released

plush storm
bronze nova
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has anyone setup ONTAP to be monitored by ManageEngine OPmanager ?

bronze nova
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it looks like i can use API access so i can probably create a new user, give them admin access and ONTAPI and then just configure this module

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there is not a lot of documents, process around

obtuse fable
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Might be safer to give read only access.

stuck moth
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im trying to update my FAS2650 9.9.1P11 to 9.11.1P2... everytime i try to upload the new image i get >

unknown.png
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any ideas?

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tbh. i made a ugrade from 9.3p2 > 9.3p21 > 9.5.p19 > 9.7p20 and now stock on 9.9.1P11

obtuse fable
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Not supported. Check hwu. That platform, like the a200 only go to 9.10.1

stuck moth
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Good hint.. but the same error with 9.10.1

quaint ether
stuck moth
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I got it with the support. We had to remove the broken file in /mroot/etc/www/upload

marsh sail
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For ontap, is there a way to keep the earlier snapshots when restoring to an old snapshot? Ex, I have snapshots A, B, and C (taken in that order). Is there a way to keep snapshot C when restoring to snapshot B?

humble stratus
kind rapids
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Hey guys!
I'm having some issues transferring an Ontap OS to my AFF A400 which is not in production yet. So it has no network connected to it.
I tried using e0M port to transfer it from boot_ontap menu option 7.
I added an IP address which was same range as I had on my local computer and had a local webserver running on it.

I can ping the netapp from my computer, but the netapp can't transfer the file.
Anyone experianced the same issue? Any one has a work around?

quaint ether
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so you're just direct connect from e0m -> Laptop port.
and e0m has something like 192.168.1.100 and the laptop has 192.168.1.101?

kind rapids
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Yes

quaint ether
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that's typically pretty straight forward.

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http is accessible outside of localhost on the laptop?

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i.e. no firewall enabled or blocking etc on the laptop?

kind rapids
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I disabled the firewall. Did not try it from another computer

quaint ether
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if you boot normally, you could also configure e0m and ping from the netapp back to the laptop as well.

kind rapids
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Yeah I booted normally as well. By default I had a mgmt_auto lif on default vserver.
configed my laptop after the IP and tried to ping it without success

quaint ether
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got ya..

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other thing that could happen is X over cable. I've always had laptops that auto detect.

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i'd also verity that the http server is available outside of the laptop itself.

kind rapids
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What do you mean by X over cable?
Any suggestions on http server? Sadly I can't download hfs coz its marked as virus...

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tried something called Rebex today.

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There was no issue downloading the file from another computer. Using the webserver. Just tested it 🙂

quaint ether
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crossover cable.

dim roost
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scp at systemshell level?

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This isn't something we normally tell customers because systemshell is very dangerous. Please do not do these commands without ONTAP supervision, but if you have access to the file system on the root volume:

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pstejska_vsim::> set d

Warning: These diagnostic commands are for use by NetApp personnel only.
Do you want to continue? {y|n}: y

pstejska_vsim::*> systemshell local sudo bash
(system node systemshell)
bash-5.0# cd /mroot/etc/

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bash-5.0# cd software
bash-5.0# ls
9101P1_q_image.tgz 98P1_q_image.tgz pstejska_vsim_1
bash-5.0#

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Then you can scp from a *nix server the ONTAP image.

kind rapids
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Yeah, we got access.
Thanks for the workaround!
I keep it in the back of my mind as last resort 🙂

But when it comes to e0M, it should be able to receive data. Correct?
Has the Netapp any recommended port when it comes to the web server?

I had some thought if I should try to find an SFP with RJ45 connection to insert it in slot e0e. But not sure if the system support it or which sfp it supports. But I guess I maybe find that in HWU.

And thanks for the support @quaint ether and @dim roost

dim roost
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Yw. Yes HWU.

gloomy saddle
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this is a bit of a long shot, but does anyone know how to access the counter that shows if a cluster is serving VMware workloads?

I thought it was displayed in statit but that doesn't seem to be the case

gloomy saddle
dim roost
blissful musk
#

Totally unrelated, but does anyone have any Idea if there is a QNAP discord server? I am trying to see if a Azure SAML sso authenticated Folder share is possible on the local network

kindred pier
blissful musk
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Thanks

wind finch
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the StorageGrid docs say nothing about node names for the target node for cloning... just that they target node will take over the IP addresses of the source node... so... should/can they have the same name?

wind finch
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ok... second, unrelated question... even if I'm not sure if this is a software/data-mgmt/documentation question...
In the AIQUM docs about installing an "HTTPS certificate generated useing external tools", what does "1. Private Key of the server that belongs to the Active IQ UM host" actually mean? I've tried to load one such certificate with the private key concatenated at the start of the "bundle" but it kicks an error "Input certificate's public key differs from the existing certificate's public key. The keys must match" . which is bonkers since I know of no way of getting access to the "existing certificate's public key" since it was auto-generated locally

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not to mention that this does really nothing for security... replacing the certificate generated with a new private key is not unusual

grave vine
wind finch
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bascially, one has to use the GUI to generate the CSR... at least on a vmware "appliance" node

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which isn't documented

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but there is an entire documentation section on doing the csr "externally" ... with no caveats about perhaps only being able to do this on systems that are not vmware "appliances"

wind finch
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and the locally generated CSR is broken too... nice... it doesn't even include the hostname or domain name

grave vine
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Oh, then I don't know how I managed to do it. 😕
Also running the OVA.

wind finch
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it worked for me last time... after I found out that one has to generate the CSR in the GUI...

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but I reset the cert yesterday and now something is broken...

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been in the diag mode and hacked a bit in UM now... everything else is ok... /etc/hosts and such... hostname is ok... just have to see if I can get a good CSR before I send it... the PKI guys are probably getting annoyed with me already

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nada... still broken even after reboot... csr is still just IP and localhost

stuck moth
cosmic scroll
weak spoke
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(The wrong parts are - all of it except under supervision)

valid spoke
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Can anyone tell me how much impact the "statistics" command has on an OnTap cluster?
I have 12 LIFs that I don't think are being used at all. So, I kicked off a stat for each of them:

statistics start -object lif -sample-id sample_name -instance LIF_Name -counter total_data

After running for a day, each of them is showing 0B for the total_data, but we just started noticing that the vol0 snapshots are filling up. How much data is this command collecting, and where is it storing it?

Or, is there a better way to tell if a LIF is in use over time?

wind finch
dim roost
rotund lotus
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Anybody know if it's possible to have NetApp Simulator with ALL Licenses ? Snapmirror Sync also, to test SM-BC ... Thanks

quaint ether
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I just downloaded the 9.11.1 sim lic txt file and see -

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SnapMirror XXXXXXXXXAAAAAAAAAAA SnapMirror, including synchronous SnapMirror

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There might also be a way to req a temp key for the sim via your account team. i've not done it though.

rotund lotus
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I think that but in my sim the snapmirror licenses was split, I ve check on a A250 it's the same:

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quaint ether
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what ontap version was that ordered with? and did you have the DP or Premium bundle?

weak spoke
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I think account teams can generate demo keys for the sim for everything except crypto stuff, since the sim is noDAR

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We had a particularly unfruitful conversation trying to get NVMeoTCP included by default..

quaint ether
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^ that makes sense. and TPM can't have a temp key

weak spoke
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😑

quaint ether
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i've done temp NVSE keys for POCs

weak spoke
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For steel?

quaint ether
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i need more coffee...

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NVE*

rotund lotus
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oki, in this case it's only simulator, without bundle, I will try to ask TPM ... Thanks

quaint ether
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just to clarify - TPM In my comment is the Trusted Platform Module. Not Technical Partner Manager.

rotund lotus
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oki 🙂

main grotto
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Is there a way to dump OnTap cli commands to a text file? I'd like to dump a list of cifs shares to a local csv.

dim roost
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Set up PuTTY to log to a text file?

quaint ether
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but you want a report.

weak spoke
quaint ether
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It’s a great feature

cosmic prairie
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Goin to upgrade 9 aff200+fas2650 ha pairs from 9.7 to 9.10.1P7 this saturday. UA picked up no critical warnings or risks, its san fc setup with one cifs and 2 snapmirror. We are not using snapdiff. Any final thoughts? Gonna do andu through cli as always.

quaint ether
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You're aware that's a double hop correct?

cosmic prairie
quaint ether
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Cool. Since there's san, did you verify IMT across 9.8 and 9.10?

cosmic prairie
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compared all 3 xlsx files from these versions and they are identical

potent idol
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How can we confirm our NodeJS libraries with AWS SDK is compliant to NetApp S3 Restful APIs, we wanted to confirm if we are using the right the libraries. Reviewing the documentation we are using supported functions from NetApp, the “Put-Object”. We are having issues within application making the correct calls to NetApp ONTAP storage to S3. We have stood up a container pod with tools like AWS CLI, and able to move files in NetApp Storage, but still unsuccessful from our application to upload documents. We receive following error, “The s3 command not implemented”. From our application, we can connect, as we can list all the documents in S3, but not able upload/delete documents.
Anyone else solve this issue?

plush storm
cosmic prairie
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P7 was here for a while

true finch
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It's a P-patch, likely some security/bug fixes

cosmic prairie
plush storm
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but I think P7 is stable enough

true finch
plush storm
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from my experience it's enough to maybe wait one week after a P-release

true finch
#

Here's another listing of all the bugs fixed and things addressed in P8

cosmic prairie
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If I will switch few days before planned update to new build and something will go wrong they gonna well... it will be painful for me

cosmic prairie
plush storm
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there's a new update every 4-6 weeks so it's usually never a good time to update 😉

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P7 is fine (as long it's not a MCC-IP), we have it with quite some customer systems

cosmic prairie
quaint ether
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If you run fpolicy, do 9.10.1P8

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There's a few other goodies in there too.

cosmic cave
dim roost
cosmic prairie
dim roost
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That's hilarous.

quaint ether
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Could also be that it just dropped the other day so it's not listed as an official recommended version yet.

cosmic prairie
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it just dropped night before

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@dim roost @quaint ether no fpolicy in environment, I think we will be fine

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ehh 😄

cosmic prairie
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@plush storm @quaint ether thanks for feedback and good words guys! everything patched to 9.10.1P7 🙂 no major issues but I've hit few bugs and unfortunately on most critical arrays xD but managed to sort this out. "backup image store not available", system manager corrupted image (needed to cancel and upload image again), and vldb was starting for too long and we hit timeout on giveback so we need to wait more and resume paused update. also some strange errors with "scriptexecution and error initialization failed" during prechecks

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aah and also just after upgrade wafl started to do some crazy things and cpu on both nodes went crazy like from 80-99%

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it was scanning volumes or smthn

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dudes that were monitoring it through nagios got scared af

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😄

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aah and one SP got crazy reported 173 degrees celsius or 343 degrees fahrenheit and precheck told us that all sensors are not working good

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but it was related to service processor bug

plush storm
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if you have the time always do the firmware and SP updates before the big ONTAP updates, helps alot

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Also did you update to 9.7 P-latest before the big jump?

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This also helps to fix possible update issues which have already been fixed

cosmic prairie
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unfortunately not we've got like very strict window one per year and it was 9 arrays so 18 nodes. started with less important arrays

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and man 7 of them was smooth

plush storm
cosmic prairie
#

so we started 8th that was most important

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and it threw all of the bugs we've hit

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if we would hit that bugs on 1st array we would jump to platest 9.7 with firmwares

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but since it went smooth on 7 systems we thought you know

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lets do this

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haha

plush storm
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well good job nonetheless 👍

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It will only get smoother now

cosmic prairie
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yeah

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because its aff200 and fas 2650

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so just latest pupdates

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hahaha

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no 9.11 for us

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we've did this since 9.3 - got this shipped with array

plush storm
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I'm still not brave enough to activate those automatic firmware updates which came with 9.10 I believe

plush storm
cosmic prairie
#

but updated dqp with this new firmware update feature

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kinda nice

plush storm
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oh did you get a notification for that?

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I think we activated it for one cluster but never got any notifications

cosmic prairie
#

nope, just from active iq

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that dqp is outdated

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and dqp its not part of ontap update

plush storm
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Yeah I still don't understand why... it's a tiny 40kb file

obtuse fable
#

Same here. It’s never been included in ONTAP cluster mode. I’ve checked. I actually pulled down some old releases and extracted. Not there. I don’t recall it being in 7-mode but I might be wrong on that

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I believe that ONTAP is “built” with the current version so that ONTAP will recognize the disks. The file just adds anything released after ONTAP versions are published

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The file doesn’t need to be specifically there because it’s absorbed into the code so to speak

cosmic scroll
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DQP is not included as all of the disks and adjustment up to the time of release are directly in ONTAP. File just adds "after release"

lone crane
#

@covert stirrup Current version of NAbox keeps losing my largest cluster in the dashboards; I also have a playlist and it loses it there. The only way to bring it back is to reboot the appliance; Have you heard of that one?

true finch
lone crane
dim roost
gloomy saddle
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I can't believe I'm asking after all these years, but is there an equivalent of grep in the ONTAP CLI? I know how you can use -fields to limit the number of columns displayed, but that doesn't help when you're looking at tons of rows trying to find a needle in the proverbial haystack

quaint ether
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few things ->

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you can do a not. so find things that are not online

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-state !online

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helpful guide there by TMAC.

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You can also mod the separator to create things like CSV docs.
I also do a "row 0" to help keep the formating cleaner.

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What I used to do as an admin is put ssh keys on a linux host and then you can just pass grep on to the output

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so ssh cluster command | grep foo

gloomy saddle
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I was aware of the ! and row 0, thanks Mike, but I didn't know sort existed! Good to know about the SSH keys; I'll try that. It brings back memories of the days when you could just use rsh.. 🙂

dim roost
gloomy saddle
grave vine
gloomy saddle
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that would probably work for a lot of cases. yesterday I was doing some work in security login and the output of one command was about 500 rows, and I was looking for one row in particular 😦

grave vine
marsh sail
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For ONTAP, is it possible to snapshot a part of a volume (instead of the whole volume)?

gloomy saddle
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I can't think of a way to do it, but.. why would you want to? snapshots are instantaneous and take up no space. what is the use-case of snapshotting only part of the volume?

marsh sail
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In the case of multiple users using the same volume. For example, user A and user B use the same volume. User A wants to snapshot their files but not include user B's files.

gilded socket
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A snapshot is a feature of a volume. A snapshot keeps the status of the volume when the snapshot is created. It needs to include every file inside the volume to keep the volume consistency

gloomy saddle
marsh sail
true finch
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Are qtree snaps still a thing?

quaint ether
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Nope

true finch
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Or am I just showing my age? 😂

quaint ether
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🙂

true finch
quaint ether
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Security wise, Snapshots honor your NTFS ACLs

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so as long as those are correct. There isn't a concern.

marsh sail
#

Okay. Thank you!

maiden depot
#

Hi, all:
Where should I ask StorageGrid questions?
Going to replace a virtual admin node with a SG1000. Need to upgrade the installer and SW, as it was shiped with 11.5
On https://mysupport.netapp.com/site/products/all/details/storagegrid-appliance/downloads-tab/download/64317/2022.08/downloads I find specific images for each model of compute nodes, but they seem to all be the same? Same checksum as far as I can see. What am I missing? Why publish archives with several copies of the same files? I'm confused. Again! 😄

true finch
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Here or #┊・hardware is fine for now. I can also ping @peak thorn for ya to come and chat about it.

lone crane
#

Can anyone explain Personas' for ConfigAdvisor and OneCollect? I'd like to collect on a weekly bases, but I'm not sure the proper Persona to use; I am in a dark site and connect send any asups or log collections to Support

pulsar yacht
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Past the 12-hour mark since we completed our final cutover from Isilon to Netapp. knock on wood no major issues.

cosmic prairie
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did just fas2650 and aff200 got support for 9.11.1?

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true finch
cosmic cave
weak spoke
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just spoke to ONTAP PM - confirmed it is supported now

kindred pier
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win!

bronze nova
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now thats a good win.. please go and tell them to enable snapdiff v1,v2 in ONTAP 9.10 and 9.11... seems the big backup software vendors ( TSM, Commvault and Veeam) dont want to support V3

maiden depot
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At least Commvault supports snappdiff v3. But yes it's a problem for the others

wind finch
maiden depot
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I know, but from what I could see the images are identical. So why ship 5 or 6 copies of identical files?

wind finch
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well, each user only downloads the one, hehe

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perhaps they're preparing for diversifying later, hehe

maiden depot
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No, there are archives with several copies in each on my link abowe

wind finch
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yeah, but disk is cheap... this is just for humans... if the images diversify later, then no one has to change their behavior

maiden depot
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Yeah. And also there is a single file first, and then two archives for different platforms. But it seems its just copies of the same file

wind finch
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going with cloning for the transition?

maiden depot
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My plan is to turn off the virtual admin, then install new physical and restore recovery package

wind finch
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i guess i'm not 100% sure about the cloning of VM to hardware anyway...

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one could just add an admin node and decommission the old one i think too

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but i haven't looked at it at all

maiden depot
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There is a documentet way to transition from virtual to physical HW. Basically you do a recovery, but you have to provide your own disaster first... (Turn off the VM) 🙂

wind finch
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ahh... would be nice if there were fewer special solutions...

maiden depot
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This is spesifically for the primary admin. Other node-types are able to pull their config from the admin (don't quote me on this)

wind finch
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yeah, not something i need to know so much about until i need to do it, hehe

maiden depot
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-or you can just install them as new nodes. But you can only have one pri admin

wind finch
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which frankly could just be a configurable option to make things like migration easier

brazen jetty
gloomy saddle
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is the SSET tool still supported? I need to scan a large volume to see what kind of efficiencies I can expect. I can find a link to Communities, but I get "permission denied" when trying to download it: https://communities.netapp.com/docs/DOC-18699

brazen jetty
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It’s not. Those are old links. Let me know where you found it so I can get that updated.
XCP is the preferred replacement. If you’ll DM me your email address, I’ll send you a set of instructions when I’m back in front of a computer.

marsh sail
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For ONTAP, I was wondering if all snapshots are still full snapshots? There was an old post about this and I was wondering if this is still true (https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshots-does-it-ever-do-a-full-snapshot/m-p/75964)

Snapshots, does it ever do a full snapshot?

I'm new to Netapp and the whole Snapshot thing. I understand the hourly snapshots are incremental, but what about the weekly and nightly snapshots? Is there a way to do a full backup? Any documentation on this somewhere maybe? Thank you

dim roost
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Snaps haven't changed no.

marsh sail
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So not possible to do delta snapshots?

dim roost
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Oh sorry I meant yes they are the same, no they haven't changed in process in the last several years in WAFL.

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The only thing added was features like cloud snapshot moving, etc.

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I'd be careful calling it a full backup. It's a copy of the blocks at that point in time locked against the AFS.

marsh sail
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That makes sense. Ty!

dim roost
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Yw

kind rapids
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Hey all,
Anyone sitting on a powershell script for checking the systems Storage shelfs FW?

feral raven
bronze nova
# maiden depot At least Commvault supports snappdiff v3. But yes it's a problem for the others

I dont believe this is true.. This is a statement i got from CV.

Product manager and development team confirmed NetApp has changed the rules around the use of SnapDiff, if customers want to do backup copies (IntelliSnap) or any kind of streaming backup, then snapdiff can no longer be used. This took effect for any new installs after Nov 30th/2021 or the use of ONTAP 9.10.x (currently not fully supported) no matter when the commcell was installed. We will no longer use the SnapDiff engine to determine changed files and will use our own scan processes. So we can still use the Network File Share backup option, just we will not use SnapDiff. This will result in the scan phase taking a bit longer, but the backup phase remains the same.

VSA backups and NDMP backups will not be affected by SnapDiff v3 since SnapDiff is ONLY used for Network File Share backup, ie Windows/Linus FS agents.

burnt umbra
#

Hello guys, I don't know if this is the right place to ask. I'm wondering which is the best method to delete xcp indexes. Do I have to simply clean up indexes dir, or what else?

Thanks

pulsar yacht
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Question when accessing a NTFS volume from a linux box using NFS. I know you cannot modify permissions but can a user set/create/update timestamps?

dim roost
pulsar yacht
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Is there a way with volume quota report show to see only users at 100% or higher

kindred pier
pulsar yacht
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I was going to look power shell tomorrow

kindred pier
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We do also have our ActiveIQ Unified Manager tool that includes a bunch of reporting capabilities which may be more flexible to what you're trying to achieve (but yes would be another piece of software to deploy), so powershell may get you what you need.

pulsar yacht
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Actually working on getting a new VM deployed to upgrade our AIQ Unified Manager to 9.11P1, we are still back at 9.6.

pulsar yacht
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PS /Users/q1431233> Connect-NaController us-phl-equ-nta-prd-01 -Cred '****' -https

PowerShell credential request
Enter your credentials.
Password for user ****: ********************

Connect-NaController: API invoke failed.

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getting that when trying to use powershell

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user is auth is using our domain so "domain\userid"

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which is a tunneled auth to our SVM

dense cipher
pulsar yacht
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onnect-NcController: The remote server returned an error: (401) Unauthorized.

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we have ONTAPI access configured

dense cipher
pulsar yacht
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Curl test works

✘ q1431233@WCHMLQVC00665  ~  curl -X GET -u userid -k "https://us-phl-equ-nta-prd-01.qvcdev.qvc.net/api/cluster?fields=version"
Enter host password for user 'USERID':
{
"version": {
"full": "NetApp Release 9.9.1P7: Sat Jan 29 01:25:00 UTC 2022",
"generation": 9,
"major": 9,
"minor": 1
},
"_links": {
"self": {
"href": "/api/cluster"
}
}
}%

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have not testing admin because it is stored in our Cyberark and triggers questions why I am using it when I pull it from cyberark

dense cipher
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try with the -ontapi switch for Connect-NcController

pulsar yacht
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that worked

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Name Address Vserver Version

us-phl-equ-nta-prd-… 10.176.7.25 NetApp Release 9.9.1P7: Sat Jan 29 01:25:00 UTC 2022

meager vector
#

Odd issue I added an ja pair to an existing cluster and the shelf isn’t showing up but the disks are lol

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Lol unsupported shelf wtf

dim roost
#

😄

#

What is the exact error?

meager vector
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Ses.shelf.unsupportallowerr:unsupported disk shelf found on channel 0a

dim roost
#

Is this a new cluster?

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Or is it using used parts?

meager vector
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It’s an old 8020 I’m repurposing

dim roost
#

What kind of shelves?

meager vector
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Ds 2246

dim roost
#

Hmm. Well that should work. Any other shelves?

meager vector
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I got a spare chassis I can move the iom6 s to i was gonna try

dim roost
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No I mean is that the only type?

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How many shelves?

meager vector
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Just one shelf on this thing so far

#

This is weird

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Showing up as different shelf

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Unless someone swapped the chassis and I didn’t realize it

dim roost
#

Does this thing send ASUPs?

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I'm more of a hands on troubleshoter lol.

meager vector
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This one nah no support on this one just a backup target cluster not configured to send em

dim roost
#

Don't matter. I can still see the ASUPs.

meager vector
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Id need to configure it

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I can tho

dim roost
#

I don't have much to look at.

#

It's that or you send a bunch of logs. 😄

meager vector
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Okay 👍

#

Should be able to send them now

#

I triggered one

dim roost
#

Serial #?

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Wait do you have a 12Gb shelf but 6 Gb IOM?

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DS22412IOM6?

meager vector
#

I double checked it’s a 2246

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And I replaced the iom6 with different once’s and rebooted the whole shebang

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721618000165

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And “66

dim roost
#

Oh it's been sending ASUPs.

meager vector
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Lol whoops

dim roost
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[?] Mon Feb 08 18:23:40 -0500 [localhost: config_check: config.sameHA:error]: Disk 0b.31.1P1 and other disks attached to the same port are dual-attached to the same adapter. For improved availability you should dual-attach them to separate adapters.
[?] Mon Feb 08 18:23:40 -0500 [localhost: config_check: config.sameHA:error]: Disk 0a.31.8P1 and other disks attached to the same port are dual-attached to the same adapter. For improved availability you should dual-attach them to separate adapters.

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How do you have this thing cabled? 😮

meager vector
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Just however until new cables that can reach come in

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I can cable it right after I replace the chassis just gonna move the whole thing so i can use the cables I have probably

dim roost
#

Disk Qualification Package Details:
Package Date: Unable to load any package (Unknown error or Package may not be present)
Header Information
FileName = N/A
FileVersion = N/A
DriveRecordCount = N/A
AliasRecordCount = N/A
DeviceRecordCount = N/A
SystemRecordCount = N/A

plush storm
dim roost
#

You know what? Try shutting down both nodes and all the shelves and power on properly.

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See if that does anything.

meager vector
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I did and it’s the same

dim roost
#

What kind of cables do you have?

meager vector
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Some rando ones lol

#

I found in a box

dim roost
#

Uh...

meager vector
#

X6594-r6

dim roost
#

Unsupported cable.

meager vector
#

Lol

#

Crap

#

Never occurred to me

#

To check the cable

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Just got a box of Netapp sas cables

dim roost
#

LOL.

#

What other part number cables you got?

#

Well..maybe it's supported afer all

meager vector
#

I suppose I can see if new cables help

dim roost
#

I'm stumped.

meager vector
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Lol no big deal I’m gonna do a chassis swap for the shelf

#

See what happens

dim roost
#

I think it might be cabled wrong.

meager vector
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I’ll double check but I’m pretty sure it’s in a supported cable config

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Just like this but with a single shelf

IMG_5770.JPG
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Also without acp lol

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That sas “error” is cause this filer has a sas expansion and I’m not using it

#

The little plastic cover that says ds2246 the 224c cover can fit in that same spot right. Maybe the covers just got swapped?

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That looks like a 224c part

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Wtf

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Well it has the wrong covers in it

dim roost
#

Can you see that?

meager vector
#

Once again I’ve outdone myself in seeing how dumb I can be

#

That gives me a 404

#

Reloaded and it just says cluster viewer with no content

dim roost
meager vector
#

Cool

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Yep that’s how it’s called currently cabled the stack on the left

dim roost
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Yeah was gonna say.

meager vector
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I’m pretty sure it’s just cause the other expansion is empty I could cable to the other side for extra resiliency I guess but I don’t want to lol

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Also I need to get a real 2246

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Not an imposter

dim roost
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Yup wrong shelf type lo

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lol

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product identification=DS224-12

meager vector
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Yep I was bamboozled

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Wrong faceplate on it and it had iom6s in it

dim roost
meager vector
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Lol yep thanks for your help. I guess one of my guys in the inventory mistook the shelf and “built” one out of spares we had

dim roost
meager vector
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Lol

kindred pier
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😄

weak spoke
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DS224C will take IOM6s? That’s.. not something I knew

dim roost
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Apparently not well. 😄

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It works, barely.

quaint ether
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Hammer required

obtuse fable
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Field portal docs say don’t do it. Not supported

dim roost
cosmic prairie
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2 weeks ago we were upgrading our storage and today we've received mail like this: NetApp Automated Autosupport Acknowledgement from <name> You have indicated that this system is under maintenance for the next 10 hour(s).

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I've checked active iq and our mail and last one was sent yesterday MANAGEMENT_LOG

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it is possible that we've received that info delayed for two weeks?

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last mails sent with MAINT=10h two weeks ago

cosmic scroll
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it sounds like it

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only other option might be that the autosupports did not get transmitted and are now retried

cosmic prairie
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it got transmitted - found them at active iq

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ideally from 2 weeks ago

valid spoke
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We've seen oddness like this from our maintenance requests as well. But, we have the opposite problem... we put them into maintenance for 6 hours, get an acknowledgement back right away, then an hour later we get another email from NetApp indicating that we submitted a request to disable maintenance mode (we did not).

I was thinking that maybe it was because we were putting comments after the MAINT=6h in the command? We used to be able to do that, but maybe it's confusing it now? i.e. we usually do something like:

system node autosupport invoke -node * -type all -message "MAINT=6h Starting NDU"

Should we just do?
system node autosupport invoke -node * -type all -message MAINT=6h

We tried testing the latter, and I don't think we ever got an end message.

grave vine
regal musk
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We have a customer asking for an attestation that a bucket was emptied and removed from storage grid. What are storagegrid admins using for something like this?

kindred pier
regal musk
obtuse fable
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Have you verified ntp on your cluster? Just making sure that a faulty time is not to blame…

fringe igloo
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Morning, I am wondering, is anyone running NVMe/TCP, VMware with ONTAP?

bronze nova
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Does ONTAP Support SR-IOV ?

weak spoke
bronze nova
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No the question comes more from an IBM/Power world where some of their arrays can do SR-IOV when they are connected to IBM Power hosts... i would possibly think the "new" way getting maxium speed with a pretty lite protocol stack would be using NVME direct to hosts...

weak spoke
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at this time it seems NVMe/FC for AIX is not supported by ONTAP, and NVMe/TCP is not supported by AIX.

fringe igloo
plush storm
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Hey guys, question about Fabric Pool:
Can you throttle the tiering of cold data to the capacity tier and/or decide at what time during the day the tiering starts? Or maybe restrict to some hours?

dim roost
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Upgrade to ONTAP 9.8 to get fix for bug 1283802
This bug adds the capability to modify the throughput
Once the upgrade is complete then contact NetApp Support and reference this KB to get the command workaround
On version 9.10.1 or higher, the storage aggregate object-store put-rate-limit modify command can was introduced to throttle FabricPool tiering with a command

Example:

Cluster::> set advanced
Cluster::> storage aggregate object-store put-rate-limit modify -node node1 -default false -put-rate-bytes-limit 50MB

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Do you need the 9.8 and 9.9 command? I can send it directly to you.

plush storm
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thanks a lot!.... I was searching and searching....

plush storm
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guess my XP was too low today 👀 😉

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There's no way to restrict the tiering to a certain time during the day, right?
(only perf tier to capa tier of course; capa tier to perf tier should always be possible because of needed availability for the cold blocks)

quaint ether
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There is no scheduling in fabicpool

plush storm
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ok got you, thx

cobalt portal
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Hi,
I have a FAS8200 running 9.11.1 where the login to systemmanager is taking long time. It is only the time from pushing the "login" button and until we see the dashboard there take long time. I have checked CPU and disk load and that is only a few percent. I have looked in sysmgr.log and apache_error.log and the only error I can find is: The DOT-CSRF cookie is invalid. - but I have seen this error message on many systems.
Unfortunately this system is on a dark site, so providing logs to support is almost impossible.

upper bay
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Does it make a difference for performance or cluster traffic if I put volumes from 2 different node aggregates in a single SVM? I was pondering because SVM root volume is the base junction-path for everything.

weak spoke
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hi @cobalt portal - can you try with Chrome? Developer Tools on and "Network" profiling?

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that will show you if it's client side or ontap side. If it's client side you might be able to see a request taking forever that your client could blackhole for a fast drop

weak spoke
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Load Sharing mirrors (LS) can help if traversal traffic is high, but there's pluses and minuses to it. Here's something I wrote on the topic of them https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Does-anyone-use-load-sharing-mirrors-any-more-ONTAP-9-1-for-SVM-root-vols/m-p/430729/highlight/true#M39777

Re: Does anyone use load sharing mirrors any more (ONTAP 9.1+) for ...

The aim for SVM rootvol LS mirrors is to enable a cluster to continue serving data if a HA pair goes offline when that pair is not holding epsilon but IS holding an/several SVM root vols, but not all of the data for that SMV, and also to enable path traversal operations in volumes that exist across ...

spice pulsar
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Hi, question about Storage Grid. Not sure if I can/should post the link here but a lot of the NetApp documentation talks about automating setup of StorageGrid using a python script called "configure-sga.py"

Not a single web page of the documentation indicates where this script lives or can be downloaded from. Maybe I'm missing it but could someone point me to this file?

FYI I am a NetApp employee and can tell you how to reach me on team if you DM me

weak spoke
# spice pulsar Hi, question about Storage Grid. Not sure if I can/should post the link here but...

https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/storagegrid-116/sg100-1000/automating-installation-configuration-appliance-nodes-configure-sga-py-script.html - "You have downloaded the configure-sga.py file. The file is included in the installation archive, or you can access it by clicking Help > Appliance Installation Script in the StorageGRID Appliance Installer." .. any luck with this guidance? I'm not a StorageGRID specialist

spice pulsar
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it doesnt indicate where to download

weak spoke
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in the appliance installer menus?

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like you might click and it downloads

spice pulsar
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gotcha

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" Appliance Installation Script in the StorageGRID Appliance Installer." < -- dont know how I glossed over that but I am downloading that right now

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i chalk it up to its early

weak spoke
upper bay
cobalt portal
weak spoke
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but each LIF means a new datastore, so from that POV.. two SVMs is no different

grave vine
weak spoke
weak spoke
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(unless I've missed that vmware can accept the same volume mounted from two different IPs as the same datastore - a quick check says not with NFSv3)

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(I don't stand by it entirely - one LIF per SVM per node for simple NFSv3 datastores is fine in most cases imo now)

upper bay
weak spoke
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with TSSE dedupe, you can get dedupe over multiple volumes, so multiple datastores is less of an issue from that point of view - and more datastores means more parallelism inside ONTAP, my only concern would be needing to manage more datastores rather than less. But you're the admin 🙂

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bed time for me here in Perth Australia! Enjoy EMEA Insight for anyone going! My colleagues around the world will continue to provide input on topics 🙂

dim roost
grave vine
visual cipher
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Been having a terrible time with ONTAP Simulator and VirtualBox. Has anyone else had any luck with the setup? If I do get through the setup without a core dump or root volume being full then the cluster nodes don't see each other.... Wants me to re-iniitialize the cluster nodes over and over.

dim roost
devout tendon
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I have a small query - Trying to change local ip subnet address of a ipsec security policy, if I try to modify to any of the host ip of local ip subnets, its not modifying.
current is 192.168.12.2/24 but not accepting any of 192.168.12.1-254

ontap910::> security ipsec policy modify -vserver ansibleSVM -name policy3 -local-ip-subnets 192.168.12.3/24

ontap910::> security ipsec policy show -vserver ansibleSVM -name policy3 -instance

                                Vserver: ansibleSVM
                            Policy Name: policy3
                       Local IP Subnets: 192.168.12.2/24
dim roost
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@humble spruce you around? This is right up your alley.

visual cipher
spice pulsar
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I have a storage grid appliance question? Basically, I need to know why some Applicance I can access the API on that node while others only respond to SSH and not API

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Im not an Storage Grid person so forgive me if that's a simple question

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if it's just a matter of turning on API support on those nodes could someone point me to the documentation on doing that. Thanks in advance

novel shale
spice pulsar
true finch
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@peak thorn is a lurker in here and should be able to help

heady fjord
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@spice pulsar I need a bit more information. what API's are you trying to use?

spice pulsar
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i think I got my answer. I was trying to connect to the SG appliances to back up thier configs but it seems that that API/HTTP wont respond unless they are at install mode or maintenance mode

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the other question was around the Admin node and approving a node to join

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via api

heady fjord
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accessing PGE API's will only work in PGE mode, yes.

spice pulsar
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but there is an /install endpoint on the admin node

spice pulsar
heady fjord
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management API's are only available on the Admin nodes

spice pulsar
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But I appreciate your help. Literally just got an answer moments ago from an NG

heady fjord
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I saw your email in the SES ng, and asked one of our perf lab TME's to respond with how we do it

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though rather than back up the config each time we just deploy with a predefined config

spice pulsar
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well I wasnt backing up the config each time. I didnt have a backup and needed one to use for the automation

heady fjord
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ahh

spice pulsar
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I just needed backups of our known good environment and struggled on how to 🙂

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i do not like how sgareinstall prompts for "are you sure?" i wish you could pass -f or -y or something

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i use ansible to modify that file and remove the prompts 😉

gloomy saddle
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this is 100% for testing purposes: is it possible to erase the contents of the audit log?

I'm trying to do some back-to-back testing of RBAC and my life would be much easier if I could somehow erase the audit log between attempts

gloomy saddle
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this is 100 for testing purposes is it

soft yarrow
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does anyone know how to clear nfs connected-client cache?

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flc1-sys-phx2-cloudsys::> nfs connected-clients show -vserver t500_0_fls3

 Node: flc1-02-sys-phx2-cloudsys

Vserver: t500_0_fls3
Data-Ip: 10.73.33.5
Client-Ip Volume-Name Protocol Idle-Time Local-Reqs Remote-Reqs

10.73.32.68 t500_0_fls3_phx2_data1 nfs3 23h 59m 17s 5505495 0
10.73.32.68 t500_0_fls3_pool54_root nfs3 1d 1h 26m 29s 25415634 0
10.73.32.69 t500_0_fls3_phx2_data1 nfs3 1d 0h 0m 34s 5505533 0
10.73.32.69 t500_0_fls3_pool54_root nfs3 1d 1h 26m 30s 187897825 0
10.73.32.94 t500_0_fls3_phx2_data1 nfs3 23h 59m 17s 5461236 0

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or what the default time out is it just rolled past 24 hours

uneven violet
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Hi NetApp team, when I list snapshot policies from rest api(/api/storage/snapshot_policies)) via cluster management port, only part of policies or no policies are retuned. but actually I do have some more policies on my cluster and if I list them by SDK I can get them all. do you have any insight?

kindred pier
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@uneven violet you might get a better answer over at our #┊・ontap-api channel. So suggest posting your query there. You may want to also consider sharing what ONTAP version your cluster is running.

uneven violet
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Thank you Ross, let me do that now

dim roost
plush storm
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I think I read somewhere the NFS clients from the last 15min would be cached in that list

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but not sure where I heard that

dim roost
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@humble spruce ?

plush storm
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ONTAP 9.12.1RC1 is out! 🎉

cosmic prairie
humble spruce
soft yarrow
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Nfs connected clients show. the default cache is 48 hours, and I still can't find a way to force a clear sooner nor cam netapp support tell me how

soft yarrow
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Netapp came back with. no way for force cache clear for nfs-connected clients

dim roost
plush storm
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maybe "nfs stop" and "nfs start" could be sufficient

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Create a new NFS SVM and try

bronze nova
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Is there still a size limit to ONTAP (s3 in a SVM) with ONTAP 9.11.1P3 ?

weak spoke
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(this limit also applies to 9.12.1, which includes support for files larger than 16TB, which is the base limitation in previous versions - larger objects aren't supported yet in 9.12 - if larger objects are a requirement for you, please let your account team know)

bronze nova
urban spear
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It's in HWU for the platform, under S3 Cluster Limits. Here is an example for the A800 on 9.11.1

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weak spoke
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Only 20Pb? Weak 😉

soft yarrow
dim roost
plush storm